THG HOF Inductee: Alexander Mogilny
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- čas přidán 15. 07. 2018
- I really think he gets in next year. It is odd that he hasn't got in so far.
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89 my favorite hockey player ever
mogilny fedorov bure favorite first line ever assembled!
The things mogilny did on the ice where pure magic. He was a player that was a joy to watch win or lose.
Loved Mogilny when he played for the Leafs. I thought he was a pure goal scorer when he came over, but man could he pass that puck, amazing talent. He was also hilarious when talking to reporters.
As a Sabres fan he was my favorite player. That 76 goal season was incredible. LaFontaine at center, Mogilny at wing, Hawerchuk is your number two center. Oh man, those were the days.
He scored on his first shift in his first game. He risked his life to play in the NHL. Every Russian who plays in the league now, owe him some gratitude.
Moving to Buffalo is definitely some culture shock. As much as I love my home town, I can't imagine doing what he did.
Funny thing was, he could absolutely fly but he wasn't good at breakaways. He'd get a ton of em, but the tried and true old school Russian way of handling breakaways (always go five hole with a backhander after you make the goalie move across the crease) didn't work well for him. Shooting and passing though, wow.
Absolutely criminal that he isn't in the NHL's hall of fame.
I was there!! Season tickets!!! Section 326 row a seats 1,2 at the Aud
You’re an absolute beauty
One of my favorite players of all time. Pure skill.
He should be in the Hall. Not only did he do all this but he paved way for Russians into the NHL. He changed the game.
all time favourite player
I honestly thought he was in not gonna lie. The Bure and Neely thing being that reason. For my money he's the best pure talent I've seen play with a leaf on his chest and he was on one leg at the time too (we'll see given the kids if he holds on to that honor when it's all said and done) 02-03 he broke Mats run on being the team leader in points (kurt angle voice) again on one freaking leg
Love these
Meehan and Luce risked their life's getting Mogilny . The story "Defector" on CZcams is very interested.
I followed him throughout his career. One of my favourite players. The guy was a mixture of Bure and Fedorov. He was a better passer than Bure, and he had a more accurate shot than Bure. He simply chose not to shoot as much later on in his career. I think most people regard Bure as the more electrifying sniper, however, Mogilny had a higher peak. At his very best, he was better than Bure. Injuries played a major toll on him. Since he was the first Russian superstar player to defect, I think that alone warrants HOF consideration. Mogilny paved the way for the Ovechkin's of today.
If you look at some of their seasons, Bure would have 400+ SOG in the seasons where he scored 50+ goals. Mogilny typically had seasons with around 200 SOG. He would be netting 35 goals (or whatever the figure was in his later years) and his shot total would be miniscule. It's also worth mentioning that Mogilny never played for a good team until he got to New Jersey. Fedorov was fortunate to land in Detroit and be part of that dynasty which no doubt helps his HOF value.
Its a countrymen question.. Mogilny did more for russian hockey than any other player, he played with insane agility/speed yet still had the touch and made hockey fun to watch in buffalo where to be honest thats a rarity. Had he started his career in Toronto and those same seasons theres no question he'd be in.
Love your vids Hockey guy
Mike Peca became known here in Buffalo as Captain Crunch.
Love this guys story, good stuff man, thanks
When I was a kid I loved Mogilny. Cool sounding name, him and Bure were fun to watch.
I think u ll love it it even more if i say to u that in english "Mogila" means grave.
My favorite player of all time, him and LaFontaine together was amazing growing up watching him, whole reason I started watching hockey
Thank you doing this video about one of my favourite player on NHL. He got the cup in the end also, he deserved it so he belongs to Hall of Fame.
Do a vid on the West Coast Express Line.
French connection was better
@@mathieulafreniere9689 Damn right!
Mogilny was a part of the Devils teams that still haunt my Flyers dreams. He, Elias and Sykora used to piss me off constantly.
Never really played on the same line.. Elias and Sykora played with Arnott at the center.. but yh they've must have been together for powerplays I suppose
@@FrankieHresko he's just saying those 3 were always a thorn in the flyers side he never said anything about playing on the same line
Loved Alex so much. Being from Toronto and a Leaf fan i knew he was nearing the end but i absolutely loved the guy. That was the era where the Leafs got all the legends that were past their prime which was annoying. But at least we got 2 good years out of him and yes he should have been a first ballod HOFer. Just for the fact that he was the first to defect from the Red Army. He changed the game. Federov came right after.
Selanne scores 76 goals, everyone talks about it forever. Mogilny scores 76, the same season, nobody talks about it.
Crazy almost 3 yrs later he's still not in
Mogilny was my childhood idol growing up in Buffalo and how he is not in the HOF is beyond any NHL fans belief. The risks this guy and some of the Buffalo Sabres staff took just to get him here to the US speaks highly of itself. It pains me that he won a Stanley Cup elsewhere and he wore a Leafs jersey at one point but even Toronto loved him and he had an amazing career there as well. The NHL needs to get there shit together because this guy was one of the best I’ve seen in person at the good ole Aud downtown Buffalo. Wow your channel is not only awesome but just talking about Alexander the Great brings back so many memories..
I’m from Buffalo….had season tickets when Mogilny was a rookie all the way up to when Peca lead us to the cup in 1999….but let me tell you something and some may call me crazy….NOBODY EVER had more tool talent than Mogilny….amazing speed, hands, a 90mph wrister, amazing stick handling, could fight, hit, pass….I really believe he was the most talented player ever….he just couldn’t feel 100% comfortable after he defected.
I know he wasn't a Leaf very long but was one of my fav Leafs ever. I liked Mogilny a lot even before he was a Leaf. His 76 goal season was ridiculous. I heard you speak of this in a previous video ( not sure which one ) but I never knew the story about Russia and the Soviet Union stuff. Pretty cool history lesson.
Of my understanding the case with Mogilny being sent to AHL by the Devils in 05-06 was about the salary cap. You see the Devils would have had Patrik Elias - Scott Gomez - Brian Gionta as their top line otherwise, but Elias got ill of hepatitis before the season and was unable to play. At that time it seemed that Elias could miss the entire season, so the Devils added Alexander Mogilny as a replacement for Elias. Mogilny was placed in the second line of the team and he did farely well. At the time Mogilny had recovered from a hip surgery.
But then something unexpected happened: Elias recovered from the illness sooner than expected and came back to the lineup. The only problem at this point was that there wasn't enough room in the salary cap for Elias to play unless someone highly enough payed player was removed from the lineup. At this situation they decided to sent Alexander Mogilny to the AHL to make room for Elias in the Salary cap.
While Mogilny was in the AHL, he started to have some problems with his hip again. After the season it was rumoured that the Devils would trade Mogilny to the Washington Capitals, but that didn't take place. Caps didn't really needed another sniper as they already had Ovechkin and Semin was coming in. Mogilny wouldn't spent a full season in the AHL and the Devils wouldn't get him traded and therefore he did not dress up during 06-07. Then he retired.
His playoff numbers are where? Come on Shannon!
THG HoW do you upload so much so quickly and such high quality like I'm beyond impressed.
Mogilny not being in the hall is wild.
Yes ...absolutely ...Alex deserves more respect ...great, "Top Tier," talent ...Sabres jersey looks good on yah ...it's a beauty of a jersey to wear
being a Devils fan I'm was a fan of Mog and he was a great player. Was unfortunate he had injury issues but should definitely be in the HOF!
8:36 "He agrees to go to the Albany River Rats. That I respect him for."
Weird, I just heard Adrian Aucoin (I think it was an audio-only Spittin Chiclets podcast) where he said the first thing Mogilny did was go to that team's coach and ask him, "Coach, what's the fine for missing practice?"
Coach: "I don't know... $250?"
The next game, he comes with a cheque for $250 for every practice the rest of the year so he didn't have to show up.
I wonder if he was willing to go to the minor leagues only because he would still get his full NHL contract money. Adrian Aucoin said he loved life.
My favorite player of all time! Alexander The Great
Yeah, agreed--the HOF should honor 'contributors to the game' and he qualifies, this was a defection, his family could have been harmed. Such talent, always hovering toward that 1.0 pt/GM. Some of the H OF arguments could be avoided if the H OF were more inclusive. Not many players get 1,000 points or avg pt/gm. Finishing w the Albany River Rats does it for me, class act fulfilling his contract and just playing hockey. He might have had a better career, but that highlights GMs and organizations- Bure and Mogilny are a dynamic duo. Cup contenders with goaltending and a solid third line. [I say that even knowing that I could not be a hockey GM, very tough job gettinfg that 'solid third line' (easy to say though(!] Nothing wrong with preserving their memories as part of the history of hockey.
Where are the ads lol
Have fun on the trip
Mogilny is slightly before my time, but it's quite obvious he is criminally underrated and/or not talked about nearly enough.
I have a nack for bold statements, but I feel he's the best Russian player of all time, while playing a good chunk of his career hurt. It's simple, look at his highlights, when he turned it on he was unstoppable-UNSTOPPABLE.
The NHL needs to recognize this player and treat him better for what he went through to start playing Hockey in North America. He's a Hall Of Famer not currently in the Hall.
He was a funny, outspoken, sardonic dude, if I recall. Maybe that rubbed some of the writers on the HOF committee the wrong way?
Mogliney had one other issue other than injuries he also had a fear of flying and that popped up a few times when he was in Buffalo
It's a crime he isn't in the HOF, his 76 goal season in 1992-93 (along with Selänne) has never been equalled ever since.
Mogilny had such a bad scoring slump late in his first year with the Nucks.
He was on track for 67 goals! Assuming he still had 52 assists, he would tied with 4th place with 119 points!
I love this series, but have you ever considered doing a THG Hall of Shame for players you dislike for one reason or another? I think we could all have some fun with that.
+thehockeyguy can you do a THG hall of fame on Neal broten.
That big thing with the rings 💍 💍 💍
25 points in 35 games isn’t having it?
@Mason Campbell GDC Mogilny did not play with Elias or Gomez. Elias was ill due hepatitis and Mogilny played in the second line with Viktor Kozlov while Gomez was in the top line. Mogilny was a replacement for Elias and was sent to AHL after Elias recovered goes there wasn't enough room for both Elias and Mogilny in the salary cap. Mogilny's production did not have anything to do with the sending down to AHL.
being a Devils fan I'm was a fan of Mog and he was a great player. sucks he had injury issues but should definitely be in the HOF!
Have you ever watched the movie "The Red Army"? Personnally I don't think it is a masterpiece, but I really like the story, it just needs a different format to be told... history of the Soviets in the NHL? Would you need a book for that?
If I could - I'd make an anime out of it, Fetisov and the other 4 could have some cute talk in the locker room about how they only see their wives a few times a year, but that they still have each other.... and I'd love to see the scene when Fetisov goes back to his first coach and guru Tarasov after the Moscow team fired him :) That could start off season 3 or 4 or something...
ok so I figurred it out... XD
season 1 Tarasov invents Russian hockey - struggles for the Russian 5 (6 with Tretjak) to make the Moscow team, 72 summit series, 74 Tarasov gets fired, Tikhonov emerges as the bad guy coach
season 2 1980 they lose to the US team, years of terror and success under Tikonov - the boys have troubles with the harsh system
season 3 some russians defect, the pressure gets higher, Tikonov makes money offers to Fetisov, betrays him, Fetisov refuses to play for Moscow, will the friendship amongst the players hold when the system collapses?
season 4 Fetisow is alone somewhere in Russia training with Tarasov all his friends are in the NHL already, then he goes over, but he ends up miserable, playing with his former best friend Kasatonov, but their friendship has cooled off because of the defection things, happy end when Fetisow gets traded to the Wings and they win a cup
Should have gotten in over St. Louis this year
Larry Lunchbucket how does St. Louis deserve it more? Because of his nationality
Because he has had a significantly more decorated career and was not fucking injured most of the time?
Steve Ott why do you hate mogilny? Troll
Steve Ott I think being a member of the triple gold club while producing the amount of points he did would be enough to get in but I guess you know everything. Send me your number so every time I have a question I can call you. Please since you're an expert
That jersey is beautiful
Mogilny was so good the Sabres traded Pierre Turgeon and Benoit Hogue for a guy fast enough to skate with him. That might be short-selling (just a little, right?) how good Pat LaFontaine was, especially 91-93, and also with how well Turgeon and Hogue played for the Isles… but I don’t think that trade ever happens without having someone as explosive as 89 driving the reasons why.
25 points in 34 games and sent down to the AHL? Did he have disconnected controller defense or something?
he was pretty much broken at that point, id have to look it up but i think his AHL numbers were not that good and i think he has had surgeries since then to help improve his quality of life.
Who cares how broken is he if he's putting up numbers like that. He was on pace for 60 points that season, why would they send him down?
His AHL numbers were 14 points in 19 games, which isn't all that bad, and that doesn't relate to my question at all. He got those numbers AFTER he was sent down
ok but if a guy is that hurt and only managed to play 19 games... yes he was still capable, but at what cost
He obviously wanted to play, there was no cost. If he got injured he wouldn't be in the lineup anyway, and him risking getting injured is his decision.
Mogilny the 🐐
Sorry to put it here but would be fun to see you review Teppo Numminen
Mogilny was/ is a legend. And that’s coming from a sens fan;) well done THG
Should Dale Hunter be in the Hall of Fame? 300 + goals, 1,000 plus points, 3,000 + penalty minutes. The only player in history to achieve this.
yes.
How about Alexei Kovalev?
Why did bure want out of Vancouver I forgot?
Triple gold. 1st Russian nhl all star, 1st Russian and non north American nhl captain.
Don't forget Fetisov.
Couldn't imagine being Buffalo and trading AM after all the drama to bring him to the states.
A good watch in 2023 as Russia is pressuring their players to stay there.
Such a disgrace he's in the hall of fame still. Guy paved the way for Soviet players in the NHL.
Most of time in Buffalo he had no one passing him the puck, Lafontaine was hurt a lot...mogilny was traded not over contract but because he wanted out, he asked for a trade and he once called his teammates loses after a playoff loss, he was a distraction so he was traded for Peca and company...he is for sure a hall of famer, if Clark Giles is in moginly should be
I remember that last year in Buffalo, he missed so many breakaways, I thought he did that on purpose to help force his way out.
When I grew up the Europeans were bure #1 mogilny #2. I think hes not in the hof cause he played on unimportant teams. Noones cares about bufalo or New Jersey. In vancouver he lived in buress shadow and in Toronto he was at the end of his career
If he played on a team like Detroit in those years he would be hof no doubt
Alexander The Great
Can remember hearing about Alexander Mogilny and other Russians wanting to come to the nhl during the time of the iron curtain.
Would you ever consider putting Daniel Briere into your Hall of Fame?
I'd be willing to bet he gets in next year. If not, they are crazy.
Hey where are the Buffaloes legends John Scott and Rob Ray
Mathieu Lafreniere canoodling with Dave Snuggerud?
Who’s gonna be better at their respective positions Eichel at Center or Dahlin as a Defenseman
Most likely Dahlin
Blake Schuster
If Dahlin can match Eichel he'll be a beast.
Dahlin has a 99% of being way better than Eichel
Another obstacle for Mogilny was his fear of flying, I remember he had to be driven to montreal for a game because he couldn't get on the plane.
Joe Wlos how did he get to NA from Europe? By boat????
HemmoH yep boat, brilliant
My mom dated him once:/
😊
Ray Whitney, Slava Kozlov, Martin Gelinas should be coming soon in the THG HOF.
Slava Kozlov and Gelinas aren't HOF worthy, and Whitney isn't either but at least he has 1000 points
Steve Ott “THG HOF” not the real Hockey Hall of Fame. If you’ve watched any other THG HOF videos he’s done, Gelinas, Kozlov, & Ray Whitney all fit in his HOF.
Why? He inducts people who are almost Hall of Fame worthy or who he thinks should be in the Hall of Fame that aren't in yet. Whitney is THG HOF worthy, and Kozlov is almost there, but Gelinas is not even close haha he was mediocre at best
Steve Ott Gelinas scored some big goals in his career. Mr. Eliminator. Pretty sure THG hinted at Gelinas going into the THG HOF in the future.
A few big goals and one that got disallowed doesn't suddenly make someone with 600 points in 1300 games a hall of famer
Inconsistency.
Just got dissed by the HOF again today -- WTF!?
All hail Alexander the Great
Mogul was a gifted,fragile and petulant player. Yes he is hall of fame material.
Mad respect for Mogilny. There's a video on youtube in documentary style about him defecting out of Russia. It was damn scary. He put up really good numbers. The only knock on the guy was his skating (which was why everyone complained about his compete level). The dip in production you see from 1996 is around when the dead puck era kicked in. Imagine playing against every team that plays the trap...neutral zone was bigger back then so it was way harder to gain the blue line. If you dump the puck in, there was no trapezoid that would prevent the goalie from just clearing it back out. Guys could use their stick to hook you from behind with literally no space to skate. AND to add on top of that.... Mogilny was playing on a Canucks team that had no scoring depth.
bure was uninterested (bored), not disinterested (impartial)
oh those russians.....they made alot of rubels too....
Trevor Linden? He was a reason that there was 2006 NHL season and good guy off the ice, decent stats not hhof worthy tho
dontay15 - YES!!!! Linden for THG HOF!!!!
Johnny Canuck Im sorry but I don’t think he’s that good enough for the hall of fame.Been a folk hero like Ryan Smyth but not good enough.
Tonghale “THG Hall of Fame”. Not the real Hockey Hall of Fame. Shannon inducts players into his HOF who aren’t in the real one, but had notable careers and that he really liked and/or fit his criteria.
Ahh I was mistaken,that’s a pity of me
As a Sabres fan, I feel lucky to have been cheering Alexander the Greatest on during those unbelieveable early years. Yet in his final year he had a ton of breakaways and missed almost all of them. In the past, he scored on almost all of them. I felt that he was missing on purpose and saw the handwriting on the wall that he was trying to force his way out. He did andPeca was a good return but not enough to push us to win the cup in '99.
THG HOF > NHL HOF
I was a big fan of Mogilny!!!I'd put Mogilny for sure!!!He was great on NHL'95!Bure was just way to soft,very slight guy.No wonder they broke him so bad.
#THGTroops
Mogilny has the numbers, the historical significance and a cup. His only problem is that he's Russian
I think the fact that he was injured most of the time was the problem actually
Stop playing the victim card fuckwad unless your name is Don Cherry no one hates Russians
Steve Ott Him being Russian should be even MORE of a reason to put him in the hall though, even just as a builder. He was a pioneer for young Russians defecting over, and even though the iron curtain fell a couple years after he came over, who knows when we would've seen Bure or Fedorov or Hasek come over had he not paved the path?
Mogilny isn't going to get in as a builder lol. Defecting didn't make his career stats any better, and will not help him make the HOF. If he gets in the HOF it will be for his 1032 points in 990 games, not his defecting
Alexei Ponikarovsky they added many Russians to the hall of fame that never had hall of fame NHL careers. Makarov for example.
First gg
being a Devils fan I'm was a fan of Mog and he was a great player. sucks he had injury issues but should definitely be in the HOF!