Watch out for these common problems before buying a Browning Superposed.
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- Watch Art repair a broken forearm bracket, loose rib, and cracked ejector extension. Some of the most expensive repairs to make on these fine shotguns.
I’ve only just come across this video. I loved watching it, and I’m seriously impressed with your knowledge, skill and passion for browning shotguns. I do hope you’ve done the world a favour and passed on your skill base to some young blood that can keep your passion alive. I raise my glass to you sir 🥃
This is the most informative detailed video I have ever watched. I have always read where Art's is the top shelf Gunsmith, now I know exactly why!!! Thanks and May God bless, Bo
It's never easy to digest an unexpectedly high repair invoice. But you do a great job explaining the deficiencies, and it's hard to ignore visible cracks in the steel.
It's always good to learn from the masters of gunsmithing. Remember gunsmith knowledge is power.
Excellent video! I love to watch an experienced tradesmen work, always a lot that can be learned!
Just found your channel and subscribed. One of the best videos I have seen from a gunsmith.
Thanks Art for taking the time and doing this video. As a Superpose owner I found it quit interesting. Now I no who to send mine to when the time comes. Thanks again.
I think they're the best. That's because work is backed up a month or so.
Good to have you sir to know how to fix the beautiful gun problems thanks 🙏
Art fitted a stock and a forearm to my old superposed back in 1976 or77. Can't remember which.
A gunsmith in Memphis had ruined my forearm and Art sold me a matching set. Of course, lead shot was made illegal after that and I have only used it on a few occasions since. The job was perfect and it is still in great shape. Thanks for the video on a great shotgun.
I love watching your videos Art! I’m a huge fan of the Superposed. I have several and if they ever break or need rebuilt, you’ll be the only gunsmith touching them!
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Great instructive video. Now I will be checking my Superposed for these issues. Thanks.
The repair is well worth the money for a family heirloom like this.
Amazing quality of content, thank you for sharing your expertise!
This was great! Thank You very much for sharing your knowledge!
Art, thanks for this informative video. I will keep you in mind if I have a shotgun that needs repairing! Like your shop.
Thanks so much for showing how to disassemble this gun. My buddy bent up his firearm latch.
Very informative and comprehensive video. Thanks Art
Estos SI que eran ARTESANOS de VERDAD ahora ya no existen. Ya en esa época era una persona de cierta edad esa es la EXPERIENCIA. 😂😂😂
Very informative and well presented video. Thank you.
Art I’m looking to buy an older Browning Lightning and w wondering if hers problems are more seen on a 12 gauge versus a 20?
Wish you had also shown the rib repair. But still a very good video. Nice work!
Great video! Now I have hope for loose extractors on a double 12 ga Bonehill!
Great work!
Thank you Sir for a very informative video ! I recently purchased a 12 Gauge CX for sporting clays and could not be happier. A very well made shotgun !
Excellent video! Just found your channel and this video is particularly helpful! Subbed! 👌👍
Amazing Job Art I Take it You Worked For Browning At One Time 😎😀👍🏼
Always a very good video.
Excellent Art!
Curious how you repaired the loose rib? Thanks.
Nice dog on 5:30😄😄😄
Love the cigar box you don’t se them these days !
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sol star hickock 45 uses cigar boxes while he was cleaning his gun in a video I was watching. I was like hey I have a few paper and wooden cigar boxes I’m going to put mine to use too for cleaning so I took all of my patches and cotton swap applicators out of the bags they were in and stowed them in the cigar boxes and it makes reaching them for cleaning a lot easier
Great video
Do you have a video on how to change a Browning B525 back to auto safety?
Art , It's great to see a guy who does good work for a change. But I tend to agree with DT below about the superposed gun. It seems to have as many problems as some pretty junkie guns. Not like the BA5. Did JMB design the SP or was it made in China? Haha. Good for gunsmiths but if I had one that fell apart I think it would trade it as is for something that stays together. Keep up the good work .
wow, big issues you dont see on some cheaper shotguns. i suspect jmb never saw the changes they made on that bracket. the fn engineers should have caught these issues. they gauranteed a shear stress fatigue fracture with that silly notch he had to fill in. a jmb quote for ya: "build it strong, then double it". this must have been a known issue to fn years ago. one wonders why they didnt solve it. makes the superposed look pretty bad.
FN built it to JMB's design. He was a genius but his designs are not without their flaws. The Auto 5 that he is famous for has a fundamental design flaw in that the barrel lug slides forward and smacks the forearm wood every time the gun is fired. Eventually this causes the wood to crack.
Remington tried to fix this problem when they designed the 1148 by putting a piece of metal inside the forearm wood to reinforce it. It didn't work because in doing so they made the wood even thinner so of course it cracked.
If you find a Browning Auto 5 that still has its original forearm wood that isn't cracked the gun hasn't been fired much.
So I bought my Browning Citori CX because the guy I was shooting with had one and I loved the gun. He shoots his without the ejectors. So I was tinkering with my gunked up firing pins the other day and while I had it all apart I took at the ejectors. I removed both pieces of the 2 piece ejectors. Is it ok to run it this way with both pieces of the ejectors out?
its better to replace the ejector hammer springs with 1911 hammer springs, then they wont kick the shells out but they will ectract them just a tad and lket you grab them very easily. Thats the easiest and best way to make it super easy to pull the shells out. Thats what olympic shooters do with their 725s
first class work and first class viewing , a proper gunsmith not a ' fly by night' backroom chancer.
Fascinating
It’s a lemon 👍
Great video! I was wondering, I have a Superposed I think around 1954 according to the serial. Today I took it to the skeet range and the trigger would reset on its own. I took it to a gunsmith and they assured me nothing was wrong I just had to manually select the barrels using the selector switch. Do you concur with this?
Sir excellent video. Could you have TIG the ejector bracket then heat treated the part??
Hello, my Son gave me a Browning A5 12ga. 3"magnum. The problem is someone had taken gun apart and after putting the gun back together and installing the barrel and forearm, the barrel won't go back to the battery position. Could the gun have the wrong forearm. What else should I try. Thank you for your time. Have a Blessed Day, Griz.
Great video!🇺🇸
Excellent video...
Great video! Art, does the Citori have it's own set of weak points I should be keeping am eye on?
Great video! Newly subscribed! Question for you. I have a browning superposed lightning and seems to be having some trouble with it. After the gun is fired It is extremely difficult to open. This has been through several gunsmiths. None have been able to figure out what’s wrong with it. It has been cleaned top to bottom, I have tried multiple different types of 12 ga shells with the same result. Originally the lever was very difficult to push to the right. That however was fixed. I am at a loss at this point. Any advice you could give would be great. I am in Florida.
Also, I put snap caps in the gun that are fairly heavy. I can pull the trigger on those and it opens very easily and they come shooting out and I seem to have no problem. Caps are aluminum I believe.
Try this simple test: Fire the top barrel only and check how easily it opens, then fire the bottom barrel only and open up again. If it is difficult to open on firing the bottom barrel, you may have a gunked up firing pin or a missing or broken firing pin return spring. Because of the geometry of the bottom firing pin, it is the only one to have a return spring. If the bottom firing pin remains extended it can cause difficulty opening the gun.
Is there a shotgun that you would say - would outlast the shooter with the least amount a repair?
I have a Browning Citori oh I know how to fire one bear and I can't get the other one to Fire and I opened it and wondered injectors with pop up and the other one won't do it so what should I do
Is high volume fire the cause? I knew a lot of old trap shooters that had thousands of shells through the superposed and swore by them but they always said they were a bit on the fragile side as compared to the Citori.
Boy that's alot problems in the most expensive brand shotgun . Ill stick with my old Winchester model 12 .
Hi. I need a few pieces for shotgun browning superposed. Might you sell your it?
So, why not weld up the cracked ejector extension, vs replacing it?
I have a 525 sporter, what are the 2 rods that connect to the forelock springs for? Are they something to do with the kickers?
Wow, a real eye opener. Not sure if you address questions here but: Do you have any opinion on the build quality of the newer Citori's as compared to the older Superposed models? Have the newer Japanese built guns addressed any of the shortcomings of the Superposed? Thank you for what you do with these pieces of history.
truckcop1 yours want won't have this problem, as yours does not have the same system f/end .And besides yours is made by B C MIROKU of Japan renowned for the SUPERB build quality of their products , I hope this helps,regards from an old Limey b across the pond.
@@geraldswain3259 Mr Swain from 'The Gun Shop' i presume?
@@thelethargicponderer6793 Congratulations, you must be a chief investigator for the F.B.I.!!! .
Regards from the UK Gerald Swain.
Nice video thanks, do you work on the B-2000 20G?
Excellent!!
I will not own a browning after seeing 10 diff gunsmiths showing how pore the design of parts are. love the guns and how nice they are but I actually use mine for what they are designed for don't need it breaking after getting a little abuse I'm a hunter not a collector
You seem to know Brownings! I have one question for you, sir. Do the old BT99's share the same take-down design as the super posed? Excellent video for all shotgunners!
I just purchased a Citori 725 Sport and am having intermittent 2nd shot trigger issues. The second shot when I pull the trigger it won’t fire. Any ideas of what may be going on?
Wow your bench is so NEAT! Hahahaaa. You tube. Thanks for the info.
Art ,do you work on the flat spring guns .Charles daily and such?
Art how much is it going to cost to take of the problems on that gun.
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no wd 40 anywhere in site???
Do this for BAR Mk2
after watching this no way would I ever buy a browning gun
With what is superior metallurgy and what should be superior engineering and construction methods, I don't think that failures like those should ever occur. When I go into the field or out to shoot trap, I often reach for one of my 2 Parkers (1899 and 1908). Both have functioned perfectly for over a century and neither has EVER had a repair. Other men at the range look askance because everyone knows that targets will only break ahead of a single sighting plane...and yet....
B25 👍
What is your contact info. So when mine needs some refurbishing. Ill know how to contact you.
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For what they cost , I would expect better quality.
Wow, surprised to see such serious design problems form such an expensive shotgun. If this had any other name on it, it would be labeled a piece of junk
My understanding is that, at best, these are 60 years old.
STOP WHERES HIS WD40???????
Big name and big money and is broke
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I wouldnt have put more money in over/under. And this gunsmith needs to learn about lube.
Art does not reply I will not subscribe
Hello Tom we do reply when we get time. But we only have so many hours in a day. Also we spend several hours a week on the phone helping customers at no charge. On top of that we take time to make videos giving away years and years of knowledge for free. Thanks for the response.
Time to subscribe I guess.😉
@@ArtIsaacson It would be great for you could make a video on how to change the hinge pin and firing pins on a Browning B25. I got a Browning b2g, a b1 and an a1. All 12 bore and staight hand stocks. Art, you reminds so very much of my old uncle Ed from Kentucky its almost unbelievable. He was also a gun nut and very enthusiastic wingshooter. I guess I need to take small zip of WL Weller 12 year and enjoy some more of your videos. Keep the videos coming :-)
@@ArtIsaacson Classy, honest reply to a poster with a chip on his shoulder.
@@ArtIsaacson Hey Art, how are you I have a question hope you can help. I own a Browning Cynergy that I love but it has a problem, the trigger locks up at times in the middle of a shoot and you have to open and close the breach to be able to shoot again, can you help me, thank you.
Never had a problem with my Citori shotguns. The guns on your video must have been abused or they are very old and worn out. Maybe after Browning fired you, it caused you to become a bitter old man making up stuff about their shotguns. God bless :)
Chris Smith although the citori and superposed look alike the superposed is built much lighter and is much more complicated. Built in Belgium...without the benefit of today’s modern steels. Almost everything had to be hand fit. I purchased a 63’ 3” mag superposed at the age of 16 for $850 in around 1992. It was basically unused. I hunted upland and waterfowl with it any day it wasn’t raining....I shot trap with it occasionally wining a little money. Even shot a deer with it. I used it but in the greater scheme of things not that many rounds. Well under 10,000. After 15 years of use my top rib was loose. The gun was still over 50 years old then mind you....I had that half of the gun rebuilt and reblued. Stuff just happens... I went with a beretta 682 to be able to handle some serious rounds and the old superposed is now just my pheasant gun. A superposed is quite the work of art when compared against a citori...hope you get to pick a few up and feel the difference! The citori has a lot of things going for it. Modern steels, built in Japan, it is a little overbuilt to take some abuse. Can handle steel shot. Not the same guns though...
From just this video (which is the first of his I have watched). I’d have Art work on my guns if I needed anything.
What's with all the butt-hurt fella? Come on relax! Has Art's Gun Shop done you wrong? You know sometimes...it is what it is. No second-guessing needed.
@@ampman3228 Back in 92 when I was the same age I bought brand new Ruger Red Label for about the same price. I am sure that gun will outlast me. That said it is not as light to carry in the field or as sweet to shoot as the 1949 Superposed that an old friend lent me to take on a hunting trip when I was a teen. When I went to return it he said he hadn't shot that gun in years and was running out of space in his gun cabinet and told me to just keep that old Superposed and if he ever wanted it back he knew where it was.
Well sadly he passed away when I was off in college hundreds of miles away and my mother somehow remembered that I still had one of his guns and took it upon herself to return that Superposed to his widow (who was the main reason he spent most of his time in the woods). When I found out what she had done I was like "Mom, he gave me that gun!!!" No clue what his wife did with it, probably sold it.
In other words, avoid buying this particular Browning. model!