Murder at the Mall: The Michelle Martinko Case | Full Episode
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- Michelle Martinko fought for her life in a parking lot. Her attacker was left bleeding - creating the evidence that solved the case. “48 Hours” contributor Jamie Yuccas reports. Watch more full episodes of "48 Hours" on Pluto TV.
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I was born 17.12.1961 .. this case has shook me to the core..my parents would’ve died of the news if that was me ..RIP Michelle London England 🏴
It always amazes me how these monsters commit such heinous acts and just move on with their lives as if nothing happened.
Yes indeed. Same thing happens with lots of sexual assaults.
Psychopathy and sociopathy are a lot more common than people think. These people don't have a conscience so it wouldn't be hard to just carry on with their own lives after devastating other people's.
@@user-mb1ko8tb6v There's not only psychopathy and sociopathy, there are many more disorders.
@user-mb1ko8tb6v true, they have no conscience. I knew a man who killed and assaulted some guys. When he tells the story, he's proud of what he'd done.
He probably thought 40 years has Gone by. They will never catch me
Amazing how the family of the defendant will not believe the DNA evidence, but I'm sure if the tables were turned and he was the victim, they'd completely trust the DNA
You know it!
i wasn't the defendants family who didn't believe the DNA, it was Michelle's sister who did. The DNA didn't match.
@@Ibalistic_hedge--- no, you're actually mistaken, at 31:39 that is the Burns family. (the relatives of the killer)
@@Ibalistic_hedge Have you even watched the episode lol?........where the hell did you get the fact it "didn't match"
@@Ibalistic_hedge you either don't understand English or you definitely didn't watch the video.
_"No criminal record and a loving family man"_ and that's exactly how we describe Golden state killer before we discovered that he's a Serial killer 😃
Yes as well a BTK serial killer ..
And the green river monster. The list is endless.
All three men were creepy 😳
When he told the other inmate if you keep beating me I'll have to take you to the mall. What a psychopath.
So real tho, I thought. Just a slip of the tongue and the truth in his heart -
That makes me suspicious of other possible crimes he’s committed at malls. Creepy mall predator!
@@twatts1523his cousin vanished too without a trace. I suspect he did it.
Haha..I thought it happened only in 3rd world that u just take an oath n everybody just believes ya haha
They have no evidence they always bring in a jailhouse snitch
The daughter says there's no way her "dad could have done this". Maybe her dad didn't, but the man he was before becoming her dad DEFINITELY did!
Well said
Man I hope she comes back to life
He was her dad then too
@michellem.m.1477 What? The sister wasn't even born when this happened.
He was the same person through all those years, pre & post being her father. Also, it should be noted that I have an IQ of 360, so I can assure you that I'm right. 👍🍻
THEY DIDNT JUST FIND DNA, THEY FOUND BLOOD!
💯
Blood that wasn't preserved to avoid contamination ( because they didn't knew that it will be a thing in the future) and it was older than 20 years when they got the PARTIAL DNA profie.
@@elenabob4953you sound like you know a lot about DNA. Can you tell us what you mean with those factors you mentioned? Thank you!
@@elenabob4953 You must be related to the killer or working for him. You're all over the comment section trying to insert doubt into this case.
@@elenabob4953 Its impossible to explain away the blood on the blinker lever. and also on the dress. He did it.The jury got it right!
Those detectives, man. That’s dedication right there.
Detectives only seem to really care if the victim is a pretty girl. Pretty shallow to be honest
@@johnsmith651 What a stupid response.They worked to solve that case because she was murdered.
@johnsmith651 You‘re just projecting your own world view onto others.
That detective did his dad proud. Good job. RIP Michelle.
I believe she was not the only victim.
She wasnt. He tried it again 3 years later to me. And I reported it more than once. Try 5 times. And CRPD ignored me. So they sit here and LIE . And there was a girl abducted and taken to Ellis park in the same time frame and had her pants cut off with an exacto knife.
His cousin went missing Dec. 19th 2013. His wife died in 2008. He could be involved in those and Jodi, for sure!!
I@@cL-nr8ks
I have wondered if he was also responsible for Jodi Huisentruit
I also believe that.
Based on? your feelings or maybe a dream you had? 🙄
The family is in denial because they've never seen that side of their father. His reaction was not one of anger when confronted by the detective. He feels exactly what he said, that he won because he got to spend all those years as a free man with his family. Spoken like a true psychopath.
I'm sure it's a very difficult thing to admit your father did that when you've never seen anything point to the fact.
If you watch "Evil Lives Here", lots of family members always struggle to accept the evil doings of their mothers, fathers, and family members.
@@jeremysmith9694 The defense did make it sound ridiculous that he would have left his family at night, went to the mall killed her and went back home covered in blood and probably cut too, but i don't think DNA lies so he must have done it. But why?
@@tamitribbiani7907 it does sound ridiculous I agree. But a lot of murders sound ridiculous. So many seem like people that never would. People said the same about Ted Bundy. Or if you saw the Canadian military officer who snuck into women's homes. Doesn't seem like the type of guy to do it at all. Some people have urges they never control or suppress. Who knows.
@@jeremysmith9694 I guess we'll probably never know why he did it.
Him tearing up when she told him his dad said how proud of him he was! 😭
It’s so bizarre and creepy how many of us or people we know are so close to killers without even knowing it.
We got these mass shootings so no longer hard to believe.
thousands of cases go unsolved each year.
6 degrees
Everyone is capable of it with enough increasingly bad choices. That’s why choosing well and seeking to do good continually really is so important for all people.
I've been watching too many of these shows i am always looking over my shoulder now
No matter your age, hearing your father is proud of you will bring tears to your eyes.
Facts :)
yep
Yeah, that was sweet 🥹
That he got choked up, it brought a tear to my eye. ❤
Facts 💯
We all understand that touch DNA can be misleading at times but we're not talking about a skin particle or a strand of hair from accidentally brushing past her in the mall, it's his literal blood discovered twice at the crime scene.
What reliability could have a 20 years sample that wasn't properly preserved from DNA contamination?
Normal climatic conditions are not critical for the long time survival of DNA in untreated blood stains. Instead of typing replies that cast doubt on proven scientific methods(and also on the whole judicial system, because would a judge accept evidence that is not exactly of good quality) try to Google and learn more about DNA sampling and how it works. @elenabob4953
Exactly. It's the two instances that seals the deal.
@@elenabob4953how was it not properly preserved?
Those were my thoughts exactly!
His family is in denial. The DNA evidence was strong. It wasn’t picked up in the mall, it wasn’t from the dealership. The killer’s comment that “at least he got to live and see his family” was his way of tormenting her family, letting them know he did it and poking the wound of her death. We’re all safer with that man locked up.
And mentioning the kidnapped reporter was very weird too, not saying he has to be guilty of it too but I really hope they check this possibility.
That was weird and I don't really think that was said by mistake.I wouldn't really be surpised if he was connected to Jodi Huisetruit or some other case.
Shows that regardless of what a good father he is.
Deep down he is a vile monster..
Andy sounds like the hyper suspect stalker type! 😮
Yeah if he was involved in the Jodi Huisentruit case then he’s got a type and investigators should probably check for other cases involving blonde women around that time…
It's crazy how in all of these cases people are shocked that an "average suburban white guy with a wife and 2.5 kids" could have committed this horrible crime. That's the literal profile of most serial killers in the U.S. His lawyer even mentioned it in court as if having a family could be exculpatory.
💔🌼Rest In Peace, Michelle.🕊🌼
Great observation
I agree. One thing that also gets tossed around along with being a family man.
" A good christian man !
As if that means something.
The majority of serial killers in the U.S. are black males. They have been for nearly thirty years.
Has nothing to do with a skin colour!!! Are you a Rassist?NO! Evil people can have all colours for sure!
100% agree with you I never get why they use that point of no crime history and loving father to defend him like it makes me believe it did it more since every serial killer profile in the US is like bruh.
I wish Andy got a better apology because it has to be hard living with people side eyeing you all your life.
For 40 years no less! Can’t imagine the pressure and stigma. Poor Andy!
I wish I could recall her name, hope it isn't disrespectful that I can't recall.
40 years living in this type of suspicion. Unreal.
You can see the sadness in his eyes
Genetic geneolgy dna has criminals living in fear of that knock on the door..it’s a great thing..
I was a grade behind Michelle at Kennedy H.S. when this happened. And 44 years later I still remember how shocked the whole school was. I attended the trial and took great satisfaction when this was solved.
What were peoples feelings towards her ex? What were students saying?
I was 8yrs old
It’s terrible and the first time I’ve heard of the case..That poor girl, such a waste of a beautiful life..
Wow the DNA sketch was impressive. Amazing. Thank God, for we are fearfully and wonderfully made! Everyone born is selected and has a purpose. Live wisely and be grateful for the life God gave you.
LIAR😂
The ex boyfriend is also a victim of this crime; he lived under a cloud of suspicion for decades until the crime was solved.
Dude says that his brother could not have possibly been the murderer because he was "always there for his family" and the daughter says that she cannot remember what she did yesterday so how would her dad remember that he killed someone. Duhhh, that's all they could come up with? 😬
44 years ago today, Michelle was taken away from her family.
Rest In Peace Michelle 🕊️
❤
😢
She was a beautiful girl! ❤😊
As sad as it is. People died everyday
@@shipitplease99999 They do and some people have empathy which they're allowed to do. You don't need to come in here and invalidate that.
I love that technology is helping bring to justice all the monsters who got away with their crimes for years. And thanks to all the detectives who speak for the victims.
I love the technology too! But, in this particular case I think the jury got it wrong.
There was absolutely zero ties to the victim. A very old DNA sample rendered an innocent man guilty. And that's a shame
@@kevincosma7945, I agree. The masses are so ignorant and easy to fool. That's upsetting.
@@kevincosma7945.. and the detective looks more like the sketch drawing than the man he arrested 🤦♂️
@@kevincosma7945 ever heard of a random act of violence?
@@bobbyswain7049ever heard of “pre-test probability”? The likelihood of the verdict being correct in this case is extremely low.
Father and son detectives reactions of finally getting the case solved. My heart goes out to her family.
In regards to the motive..
It’s possible he saw her at the mall, became obsessed with her because she was striking, tried to mingle with her, she refused/rejected him and he followed her to her car.
Except he had plastic gloves at the ready
@AbbeyOnAtkins
He could have all these in his car. He drove 2 hours from his hometown so that he couldn’t be identified easily. Why would you commit crime in your own neighborhood and risk having witnesses who can identify you straightaway.
I doubt if he ever hit on her. He was what, in his thirties by then? He probably hated pretty blondes who may have rejected him in his own teenage years and wanted to act out the fantasy of taking what he could never get with consent.
@@paulinegallagher7821 makes perfect sense because they did say it was personal, targeted & a hateful crime. May her soul RIP
Didn't she even tell her friend she thought she was being followed? Did he follow her to the mall??
The excuses being used by the family to try and justify how his blood got onto that gear stick and her dress are just ridiculous and delusional.
Agreed they should have asked how his blood got there not his DNA. There’s a big difference
Agreed
@@robyndendyexactly
I guess if you're simple-minded, you might think you have to have DNA explained, but most people know what it is nowadays. They know if they leave spit, sweat, or blood, there is DNA. @robyndendy
I guess the Buick dealership back then was just selling cars with blood stains in them like it’s no big deal, and people were totally fine with touching something like gear shift that’s used every single time when they’re driving the car with blood stain on it lol
Michelle's sister & her husband are the loveliest, most genuine people. I liked them both instantly. What a tragedy for their family.
Michelle and her sister both look so beautiful. Sigh, a lot of ppl have their lives cut short..
How people act on the outside might be different on inside
@shipitplease99999 Yeah you sound a bit hateful with your remarks about people’s looks. Resentment is not a way to go through life. You can always talk to professionals if you’re unhappy. ☺️
Big respect to the detectives and prosecutor who tirelessly worked on this horrific case.
calls to defund the police look all the more silly when we all see the hard working men and women that solve these old cases.
Yeah I mean how much more should the police force be defunded?! These dna tests cost thousands of dollars and most cases are waiting on the back burner for ages to be solved. So much more money should go into this, imo.
There's a lot of people out there with no criminal records that have gotten away with things their whole lives and never been caught. What frightens me is how many other girls did he do this to? So many unsolved cases, so many bodies that are never found and never even investigated.
even in Germany the docters now complain that there's not enough autopsies being conducted and they estimated half of the murders are mislabeled as natural causes..
Oh..they will get caught..believe me. Here on earth maybe not..but in Eternity..yes. we all be facing the Man Upstairs,for eternal life in Christ or Condemnation depending in what terms we leave this earth.
@@dan1769 💯
The composite sketch was spot on! When they first showed the photo of the 3 brothers, I straight away screamed: "It's him, the middle one!!!"
Me too!
I did too! How strange is that?!
@@sunilayya8948 Me too, immediately!
Me too.💯
*composite
I’ll never get friends saying there’s no way he did it when there’s a literal 100% dna match to blood at the scene.
You overestimate the DNA match.
The sample was 20 years old and it wasn't properly preserved from contaminations because they didn't knew what technologies will be found in the future.
The sample could give you only a small part and not the full individual genome. Based on that small part you could have 20 people or more in a city that fit.
Ahh yes, reconstructing the face from a sample it isn't something that the science could do because you only have the outlines not the details nevertheless the plice present it as clear evidence.
His answer with "I don't know how my DNA got there" just to haveminth later after many interigations "maybe was due to Y" was the standard behavior described by many behavior experts today (fact that wasn't known when he was interrogated)
@@elenabob4953look for Bob Smith's comment. Seems your little jail bird is beginning to gloat. 😂
@@JennyBrie2006 Yeah, because this is just the internet and we should believe the stories of anyone on the internet simply named Bob Smith 🙄
The internet. The place where people say anything and people believe everything.
@@shawnagreen2942that’s not true. I don’t believe you.
I don't trust the DNA in this particular case. I think the jury got this wrong. Hopefully the defendent will win on appeal
Showing her ex the crime scene photos when he wasn't even a serious suspect is horrible. Giving a young man PTSD with graphic photos of a girl he dated being stabbed- that's so horrible.
Through all this the police didn't try very hard at all.
They went with what they had. This was a random crime between strangers, the hardest to solve. Her DNA made the only difference in solving this case. They had no leads.
Police goal is to catch people--they aren't particularly concerned with trauma except where children are concerned.
My mom was friends with Michelle in middle school. She told me this story when I was growing up but they didn’t know who had done it. Rest in peace, Michelle ❤
No one wants a violent killer in their family. I think it's common for family members to be in denial because maybe even subconsciously they think it reflects upon them
Sounds pretty self absorbed, especially in a situation where your family member can harm again.
I agree. Everyone in the comments calling them disgusting but they aren’t in their shoes. It’s her father and his brother. It’s going to take a lot of therapy for them both. I’m sure he’s manipulating them too
well, psychopath genes will pass on so thats why.
Must be terrible to think a monster made you. Easier to deny it
It does reflect upon them.
Thats not fair, but it does.
Thats not the real reason though. If you know someone, or think you do, like we all do think, its just unimaginable and for family loyalty also kicks in.
His family is super delusional.
They usually are!!!
Agreed. I think he's done this, a lot. He gives me a chill up my spine.
@@JulStar13 I agree. I think there are definitely more victims out there. Starting with Judi Huisentruit. Why would he bring her name up if not. This guy is CREEPY!!!!!!
@@StaceyLovesBettyBoopand there are some pretty striking similarities between Michelle and Jodi too!! Interesting thoughts.
Delusional and arrogant - that they would appear on TV denying the fact that DNA and BLOOD put their relative at the scene of the crime.
This totally pisses me off. The person who murdered Michelle tried it again 3 years later in almost the same spot in the parking lot. I know. I'm the person it happened to. So I called police at the time. The perp got away. But, every single time they asked for leads in Michelle's case, I called them. And they would tell me, "Oh no, it's not the same person." Flash forward to the day they arrested the murderer. And I see him on tv. And guess what? It was the same guy, only older. And had the police taken me seriously any of the FIVE times I contacted them in the FORTY YEARS they allegedly were working to solve this case, it probably would not have taken so long. This guy pretended to be a JC Penny employee. I walked through Pennys to go to a shoe store, and walked through on my way out. Where the creep followed me out of the store and into the parking lot. I became aware of him and ran to a group of shoppers. That is when he told them he was a store employee and I had stolen vacuum cleaner bags, and I needed to come with him. They agreed to go in the store with me, and he fled. We called police and nothing ever happened. I reported this man every time they asked for leads. They ignored me. And it was him all along.
Damn that’s insane. It shows what a predator he is and there are no doubt other victims.
@@bushmonster1702 It also shows that our police department in Cedar Rapids is a bunch of bungling idiots who cant solve a crime even when people come forward with information. If you ask me, they didn't really want to solve this case. If they were serious, they wouldn't have dismissed me like an over imaginative child. 5 times!! I will never forgive them, and I hope Michelle's family doesn't either. Because had the police taken me seriously, her parents would not have died not knowing who killed their daughter.
You should talk to the news.
My goodness I’m so sorry.
I think you should nevertheless contact the new investigators again, because he might at some point try to get a retrial and your information would be very valuable.
Glad you’re well ☺️
Great respect to M. Denlinger! The moment he shed a tear about his father making him proud, made me love this guy even more! RIP Michelle.
I have so much respect for him after listening to him for just a couple minutes. I teared up. He seems to have a deep respect for justice and that's admirable. I'm grateful for people like him.
Even his smirk from day one of the interview...he knew he had finally been caught
Posting this on Michelle’s anniversary….well done! From one Michelle to another, rest in peace now. ❤
🙏🏽💖
She is don't worry and will continue to do so no matter what is said or done.
People never cease to amaze me. Every human being is capable of doing horrific things. People don’t seem to understand that no matter how close you are to someone, you don’t truly know them. Just because you love someone & they put on a good show, doesn’t mean they’re incapable of committing heinous atrocities!
people are no different from dogs, they can snap at any moment if they were not raised by decent and mentally healthy folk.. so many triggers are planted in early childhood.
@@esmeraldaweatherwaxe970 What a great explanation!! That’s so true & very profound. Daily, I thank God for this endless, free information that we have access to. I wish more people would use it to gain access to the free help, and put in the work to overcome their trauma. Hope you have a great day Esmeralda, & I sincerely thank you for your response. 🙏🏾
Everyone saying they don't believe he did it because he doesn't look like a killer. Chris Watts and Scott Peterson didn't look like murderers either
You wonder how many other murders he possibly committed. It’s like a potato chip with them, it’s usually never just one.
Especially someone who could live life very normal. It reeks of a psychopath
Love your comment...."It's like a potato chip". 😂
True he could be a serial killer but experts classify them as "organized" or "unorganized". BTK was organized. This guy was messy.
I so wanted the presenter to ask his family how his blood got on her dress and car? Was he prone to bleeding everywhere?
Was it his blood or a DNA contamination due to the fact that the sample was improperly preserved from contamination for 20 years? Don't forget that what they could have from this sample is a partial profile that could correspond to many other people.
@@elenabob4953 it was a full profile. No contamination and a 1 in a billion match. I'm pretty sure there are not a billion people in America
@@elenabob4953why are you making nonsensical comments? Did you participate in the investigation? Are you related to the defendant? You’re protesting way too much, dude. Do you know something the investigators missed?
@@AidaShawJ.D. She's definitely related to or working for the defendant.
Well you see he happened to be wearing the dress while working on the car when he got a nose bleed and those two things happened to both be at the same crime scene years later. Makes perfect sense.
With a crime that horrific its not hard to believe he has other victims. This guy is obviously a predator. This seems like an attempted rape gone wrong she fought back and he killed her in rage. So sick that he boasted about getting to live his life for so long... 😡
To cut arguments short, no innocent person would consider going to jail after more than 40 years a win! If he was innocent, going to jail is never a win. Whether it's a year after the crime or a 100 years later.
Insane how a cold case open that long, 39 years, and finally get the killer
Advances in DNA
The fact that was a 20years not properly preserved sample and that the analysis had only one small part if the genome that is the same part as at least 20 other people living in that city it really makes me wonder if they really got the killer.
Yeah, advances that also gives you the face based on a small sample and not the full genome, from a sample that wasn't property preserved for 20 years because at that time. Sure, sure.
@@elenabob4953“full DNA strand“
Well done to those detectives who never quit
So creepy how Burns mentioned the kidnapped reporter….hope something turns up in that case.
Totally agree. I very much remember when she went missing.
Michelle probably did something garnering a photo in the local newspaper, or maybe even a quick human interest story on the news, and is why she was a victim. He may have been targeting young blonde women who were higher profile, "famous" or well known in his mind, like the reporter. Maybe he was rejected by a successful blonde, or his own mother, when he was younger.
@@l-b284or maybe he had a crush on those women and thought it’s best not to let anyone else have them
Spontaneous utterance. Almost like he’s challenging the police to catch him in that one. Dont these guys think they’re smarter than police? Technically if he did do that one too, then he did ‘win’ since they haven’t been able to pin it on him.
She had very similar eyes, looked like what Michelle would have years later. Eerily so...
I feel like everything around him speaks for him. From him carrying on with life like nothing happened - visiting the mall with the fact he murdered someone there, to making a family who are so delusional they won't believe DNA evidence, to him telling the guy he was playing cards with that he'd take him to the mall. It's appalling.
it's why monsters spend so much energy on their 'fanbase' that's not love, nor dedication, just selfpreservation, and free alibis for life.
Speaking of a dealership, back in the the late 60s, in Santa Rosa, CA. My stepfather worked as an errand runner for the owner. The dealership had a autobody shop there. At that shop, a male with a club foot worked there. I happened to see him once when my stepfather went there on one of the errands. One evening, a woman called 911 to report that same man had assaulted her, stabbing her many times. She managed to crawl to a phone booth to report the crime before she died. The police came to the dealership and arrested the mechanic. My stepfather said he did not understand why that man had done this horrible deed, as he got plenty of attention from the women who brought their cars in for repair. OMG.
Dealers dont sell cars with blood on them. 🤦♂️ Did he sell her the dress too?
The dress is the stumbling block for those who want to explain away the DNA.
maybe he was a car salesman by day, worked at a dress shop by night, and had lots of nosebleeds...
37:31 that daughter is so ignorant. What’s unfair is that her father murdered an innocent girl.
Not really if it was your dad you'd be saying the same thing.
@@joaquimrodriguez8961 if my dad was a murderer I absolutely wouldn’t stick up for him at all. If you would then that’s your problem.
Ikr I was like wow the daughter isn't very smart
It’s easier to believe a lie.
I get it. Its her father. But I personally would have a hard time believing my dad could do something like this too. My father my kids. I would still love them. But never forgive them.
She was so incredibly beautiful. So sad she didn't get to live her life.
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It just goes to show you just because someone is quiet and they don't have a criminal record doesn't mean anything! We have to be vigilant and pay attention. Because sometimes it's the people you least suspect
You're right and unfortunately this has happened before.There have been other murderers who are unassuming and don't have a record and they were later discovered to be the perpetrators of these cold case murders.
The defense lawyer was like "DNA is not a sole indicator of a crime".
But if was defending a case that that had no DNA found, he would be like "there is no DNA found in the crime scene" defense.
Exactly! Or if it exonerated his client, he would be screaming “not guilty” in opening and closing! 😂😂
Prosecutors do the EXACT same thing so what's your point?
@@kenyattaclay7666no they don‘t. prosecutors only use DNA evidence when they have some. lawyers discredit evidence when there is and take it in favor when there is too.
I cannot really blame the defense lawyer. It's his job to defend his client and do his best to poke holes.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅 agree to this
It was so sad that her parents both died thinking that the wrong person killed their daughter. That wasn’t justice at all for them. They died and never got justice
I feel horrible for her ex boyfriend. He was misunderstood for so many years
More than that, imagine his own parents. Having to lead a life, where your own parents think you are a murderer, i cant even imagine his suffering. Michelle's suffering lasted just may be 10-15 minutes. But that poor guy suffered his whole life.
" just 10 - 15 minutes "...???!?!
@@indianfan1029everything you said was correct until you brought how long she suffered into this, that shouldn’t even be in this comment. Their sufferings are not comparable.
He didn't seem surprised. It's like he knew this day would come one day.
It happens everyday......a male sees a beautiful woman and can't help but proposition her.....she denies him.......He kills her because of the fear of being found out........There's your motive
I never believe them when they claim they've blocked memories. Victims of crimes - yes, I'm sure they genuinely do block memories, it's the brain's way of protecting us. The perpetrators of the crimes though - na, they remember every second of it. Denying memory is their way to both keep those memories sacred for themselves, and also so that they don't have take ownership of that behaviour.
I don't think blocked memories actually happen, in that case it would be forgotten memories but then I don't think it's possible to forget something like this.
@@teijaflink2226 blocked memories, or rather repressed memories, are definitely a thing if you experienced trauma in childhood and your brain isnt mature enough to process what happened, so the brain, in an act of self preservation, rejects the event altogether. In terms of committing a crime though? No way. What sociopaths can and often will do is compartmentalize the event, easily carrying on with their life and activities without it bothering them.
Him mentioning Jodi Huisentruit is so suspicious.
right? He definitely did that not once
He may recall cos it happened during the same time same city and both victims are blondes and discussions jave down rounds...if he was not convicted the statemnt will seem perfectly fine
@@bishakhachakraborty6765 Michelle was murdered in 1979, Jodi disappeared in 1995 I believe so it wasn't around the same time.
@@lunatic5162 Well two possible reasons; one, he did it and he thought thats what the detective was there about, or he just named her as an example of a woman in Iowa who he remembered was murdered and her killer never found. If its the latter, he was hoping that whoever killed Jodi was also the suspect in Michelle's to take the heat off him.
He did it on purpose too
26:46 i bet Jerrys heart dropped when he heard “I’m Matt with the cedar rapids police department “ 😂
But he did say that he didn't care because he lived a full good life and it didn't matter to him.
Kind of shows how selfish he is though. He still has a family he'll never see again and he "doesn't care" because he got what HE wanted.
I wish all the investigators like Delinger who are so passionate about their job. It was really touching at the end when he was told that how his father is so proud of him.
Genealogy should definitely be used to purse indictments and convictions against these criminals! Rip Michele
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Absolutely
Absolutely
I forget what story it was, but there was one on an innocent man who had his life ruined because of this method of DNA searching.
*PURSUE
This case gave me chills. Michelle Martinko deserved so much better.
God bless her soul.
I think he saw a crime of opportunity. He probably kept gloves and knives in his vehicle. She was parked too far, it was dark, and he took a shot. I wouldn't doubt there are other deaths in his wake. His cousin Brian disappeared (coincidentally on the same date of 12/19) in 2013, and 5 years before Jerry's arrest and his first wife supposedly died of suicide.
Wow…
He felt safe and untouchable all this years until the detective came in his door, and the only reason he could think of was black out
Scumbag jerry DID win by being out with his family for this long. But the fact that he never suffered remorse, pain and regret about what he did says more about him than anything
But WHY did he do it? Was it just random, or did I miss something?
@@JodyFidelismaybe he’s a serial killer. They hinted that it may not be his only victim. Maybe he was just good at hiding his double life.
At least they finally got him.And he'll get what's coming to him in hell.
Psychopaths don’t feel remorse
@JodyFidelis
It’s not difficult to guess why he’d done it. He’s a sexual predator who had silenced his victim.
Could be a possible serial killer? That amount of violence and going prepared with gloves and knife. The blood evidence was there not touch DNA. RIP Michele 🙏
Yes - a serial killer like Ted Bundy, living the perfect double life. I believe so, 💯%.
I was thinking the same thing. There was absolutely no connection between Jerry and Michelle. I feel like there has to be other victims out there.
They ran his dna on unsolved murders from around the country and found no other.
Very real possibility. I’d be more surprised if there wasn’t.
The detective was amazing and definitely brought this case home. Glad they caught the heartless killer.
Thank you 48 hours for putting this full episode on
What a beautiful angel..!!!! She would be 62 years old if she was alive.. Very sad to think that one man's psycho thoughts ended a life and her rights to live, marry, have a child..be a grandma... Everything.
Maybe she would not have wanted to get married and have kids? Why don’t people ever say “she could have owned a company, discovered a cure, or invented something spectacular”…women want more out of life than just a family.
@@genx-odus5678 Partially you are right but being a same age girl i think at the end of the day we all want a beautiful family.. She had a boyfriend.. So she had those feelings.
@@ShriShriya-dm8mj "All"? I do not. We do not all want a beautiful family. I had a boyfriend when I was younger and found that I had wanted more out of life than what the "script" society has written for women. We fought too hard for our rights to still merely just be thought of as family makers...
@@genx-odus5678 We all don't want to be a entrepreneur too.. Simple.
@@ShriShriya-dm8mj i never used the word "all" you did
Why is family always delulu when there is DNA?
I can’t believe the defense used this guy working at a car dealership or his family going to the mall. You have two places one in the vehicle on the steering wheel and one on her dress. There is no way that that is just going to happen in an every day situation. he did it, he knows it! I understand his family’s feelings. I think he’s one of those monsters that stay hidden for a long time.
The reporter went missing and never found. His causin also went missing never found. And his wife committed suicide. All these three deaths happened in the 2000s. All in Iowa.
Today is 12/19. Not a coincidence that 48 hours ran this story today. RIP Michelle.
Today is 5/25
if the DNA had come back to some Russian guy who had never been to the States then I would say it was faulty. But what are the chances of it identifying someone who lived and frequented the mall? AND the DNA was also on her dress not just the gear shift. This is a terrifying predator. He killed cause he wanted to and stopped at will as well.
AND it wasn't just some transfer DNA, it was his blood. While interviewed, he also mentioned that missing reporter. A woman looking very similar to Michelle. I hope her case is being investigated.
I've little doubt on occasions DNA can be faulty-science is never perfect.
You might only be partially right.As other people here have stated,he might have more victims that just haven't been connected to him.
His reaction when the cops confronted him is a big indication he did it. A normal person would be bemused, confused and angry all at once but he showed none of those emotions.
I have a beautiful wife & two amazing daughters. So this really hits me close to home. Any man who physically (or verbally) harms a female, is the lowest form of what it means to be a coward. It's unacceptable and should be paid for by either a death sentence or a literal "life sentence" without parole! This isn't the kind of thing they'd do only one time and just stop.
This is exactly why it's important not to rush to judgment. Just because someone seems like they may have been involved does not mean they were.
Talking to him now, he seems like a mild-mannered old guy but you have to look at when he was younger.
They are asking why would he leave his wife and children to drive to the mall... because that is where there are multiple people that he could choose as victims.
Serial killers have been leaving their wives to go and prowl as long as there have been serial killers.
But if his DNA was on multiple areas including the car the no way was that transfer from her picking it up at the mall.
@@WVgirl1959 I'm actually talking about her boyfriend at the time who everyone thought did it.
Exactly. That poor guy might have had a hard time letting go, and the brother in law not liking him and seeing him as a pest would have shaped their conviction that he did it. But that said, if he WAS harassing her and refusing to accept the relationship was over, and then she turns up dead, can you blame the family for thinking what they did?
That's right. It happens way too often in these types of cases.
He could've raised reasonable doubt if he admitted he had interacted with her at her car. There were no witnesses. He could've said her battery was dead and he gave her a jump, cutting his hand while opening her hood. Hopping in and getting it started for her. Then driving off thinking nothing of it. Except for this weird looking dude lingering not far away, watching them.
But to just deny, deny, deny, with no explanation for his blood in her car and on her dress sealed his fate. Now, he's where he deserves to be.
That man's blood was on her dress and gearshift
You're too good! Hope you're not planning on committing a felony anytime soon!😂
@@Cor6196Haha your comment got me 😮
Damn Id hire you no questions asked if I'm ever on trial!
then they would say why not reveal this all these years...
I was a year ahead of Michelle in High School at Kennedy. I remember her well. She did stand out especially w/her blonde hairstyle. It was a terrible shock when she was killed.
Does his evil family think the dress was bought from a used car dealership as well? He obviously passed his evil onto his disgusting daughter!!
Well said 💯
and no remorse.
I was waiting on the family of the killer to say, "He was such a good boy. He would never do anything like that." 🙄
After the guilty verdict the way he just stood up like ' well, that's that ' tells you he did it. If he was innocent you'd think he would have shouted & went nuts, but he didn't do any of that.
yes you are absolutly right! i was thinking the same way. if was really innocent you have to show some injustice or angry but he did not. he just get caught...
Killed for no reason. Such a beautiful innocent young lady. Glad justice was served.
The son’s reaction to his father being proud of him. Priceless! Fathers matter!
These lawyers and family members reaching for how the killers DNA got in her car and on her dress? I know it’s shocking but come on people.
Yup. And it was blood not touch DNA.
His attorney was doing his jpb, will continue. He knows that guy is guilty. The family is deluding themselves
Even faced with indisputable physical evidence, his family still denies. Cut from the same criminal cloth? Maybe. Or just delusional. Either way, I’m glad this monster will finally be put away for the rest of his life.
You do know that scientists make errors... Paragon Labs was probably out looking for fame
@@ezrc9294So you're saying that there's an error in the DNA? Because the percentages that it could be someone else is zero.
@@Marlaina I dont know - I would have to be there myself and test it.
When the sheriff first interviewed Jerry and asked why his DNA got in her car and clothes, I saw his eyes started blink fast and already know he is the murderer
Dennis Rader,,John List,,it’s absolutely possible to live a”normal” life after such cruel crime and nobody in their inner circle believe its him
I just have so much appreciation for the Detective that took over his fathers Case and solved it. What a hero. He himself knows the amazing job he had done and to hear the clarification from your father who was once on the same case, Must be the utter most appreciated feeling. God worked through this detective. God bless all families in this case.
Shouldn't god work to prevent murders from happening in the first place? Why does he wait until a person is killed to work through a detective? And why are so many murders (innocent child victims for example) unsolved? How does he choose which detective he works through and which case to ignore? Seems quite random and sadistic to me.
It wasn't god. All the hard work, years of looking for a suspect, checking new leads... it was ONLY because of these persistent detectives that we know the culprit.
The anniversary of her death was today, December 19. May she rest in peace.
The fact that he went on with his life like nothing happened is so typical for criminals smh.
The man tearing up after hearing his dad is proud of him is so heartwarming❤😢
Detective:
Did the dress work for the dealership?
*BOOM!*
❤At the end when Harvey denlingver said how proud he was of his son and the interviewer told his son and he choked up… it was great ! Lovely moment !
It's so hard to be a defence attorney you have to defend your client even you knew he do it.
I WOULD NOT.
Doesn’t matter what the killer’s delusional family thinks. Only matters what the judge and jury think.
Michelle… rest in peace you precious beautiful soul 🙏🙏🙏
Justice has been served💖💖💖
I get the feeling there's no connection between burns and Michelle is because he had planned to go and find the victim after he arrives at the mall, I believe she was a random attack because he seen she was the most vulnerable, and she fit his type of victim he was looking for. Jodi also fits hit target type. Thank GOD for DNA, GENEALOGY AND PARABON,,, AMAZING! AMEN
Now I’ve been at an alarmingly high rate of delusion at certain times in my life….but never to the point of Jerry’s daughter and family 😮