Good Cop/Bad Cop: Solving the Murder of Heather Bogle | Full Episode

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  • čas přidán 17. 07. 2023
  • An Ohio mom is brutally murdered. A detective pursues the wrong suspects, while the real killer walked free. It would take a dedicated sheriff to find a real suspect. Were there other victims? CBS News' Jim Axelrod reports. Watch more full episodes of "48 Hours" on Pluto TV.
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  • @48hours
    @48hours  Před 10 měsíci +241

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  • @Emmere
    @Emmere Před 10 měsíci +589

    Him saying he shouldn’t have to apologize sealed it for me. No remorse. I’m sure he unjustly got others locked up too.

    • @standup273
      @standup273 Před 6 měsíci +32

      Right?! Imagine the people he's falsely accused. The lives he's carelessly ruined. And has no remorse.

    • @jenny2282
      @jenny2282 Před 3 měsíci +15

      He knew from the get go these 3 people were innocent. He just wanted a quick conviction and to climb to the top fast. He was evil too from the start he sealed it for me

    • @shewolfbabe3419
      @shewolfbabe3419 Před měsícem +4

      Oh now that he is in prison all and I mean all his previous cases will be looked into

    • @robertdavis4408
      @robertdavis4408 Před 24 dny

      😂 the Cops spent two years or more trying to send three black people to prison for the crime like ALWAYS 😢got so caught up in their HATE FEELINGS until he intentionally hid the DNA of the real killer 😮DAMN the new Chief of police and other officers came and solved the case within 11 months🤔 this is So Sad 😭

    • @laprimo21
      @laprimo21 Před 24 dny

      And he's still saying "how do we know they didn't do it??!"....This guy is a mess.

  • @jcla2540
    @jcla2540 Před 10 měsíci +1550

    Racism, classism, incompetence. Laziness. It is not an accident. He has to be liable.

    • @janflower4068
      @janflower4068 Před 10 měsíci +67

      It's too disgusting for words I still don't understand how these people get hired let alone allowed to stay and be promoted we have to speak up and speak people there's no other way to change these things

    • @jr7845
      @jr7845 Před 10 měsíci +17

      Hrs creepy

    • @alybper
      @alybper Před 10 měsíci +61

      Agreed 100%. That poor woman was targeted for absolutely no reason. She has kids to take care of and he took her livelihood

    • @Ze_Moose
      @Ze_Moose Před 10 měsíci +23

      48 hours NEVER mentioned anything about race despite the fact that they were all African American. I'm wondering why? 🤔

    • @paganseashellies
      @paganseashellies Před 10 měsíci +84

      @@Ze_Moose Race was mentioned. The interviewer asked the new sheriff if he thought O'Connell's determination to pin the crime on three people who didn't do it was "over-reach by a cop gunning for a promotion, racism, or tunnel vision" Imho he didn't even need to ask. It's crystal clear WHY those three were isolated and persued.

  • @Sherirose1
    @Sherirose1 Před 9 měsíci +264

    This is what real news reporter look like. What a good man. His heart is pure and the sheriff and all those who tried to bring justice, well done.

    • @alntr2872
      @alntr2872 Před 5 měsíci +3

      certainly, yes

    • @cathyprosser1050
      @cathyprosser1050 Před 3 měsíci +9

      And thank goodness Keyona reached out to him! What a horrible injustice!

  • @andyman5446
    @andyman5446 Před 9 měsíci +236

    How grotesquely twisted does a cop's mind have to be to ignore the fact that the DNA found under the victim's nails did not match any of his three suspects. He actually hid it from the grand jury. What kind of hatred or evil drives people like that?

    • @donbuyshousescash4765
      @donbuyshousescash4765 Před 7 měsíci +26

      Welcome to America

    • @marygoff3332
      @marygoff3332 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Look at the Karen Read case.

    • @mamarealtalk5850
      @mamarealtalk5850 Před 7 měsíci +16

      It's pride & ego more than hatred. A power trip, if you will.

    • @Marlaina
      @Marlaina Před 7 měsíci +13

      He doesn't want to be wrong no matter if the facts are smacking him in the face

    • @mamarealtalk5850
      @mamarealtalk5850 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@Marlaina You said it better than I did. Lol. That's damn spot on.

  • @carielynn6647
    @carielynn6647 Před 10 měsíci +1292

    The fact the bad cop couldn’t even admit he messed it up speaks volumes! So grateful for good cops who go the extra mile!

    • @MermaidDolphinNYC
      @MermaidDolphinNYC Před 10 měsíci +44

      I had an awful experience with a NYC detective. To make a long story short, he targeted me for a crime I did not commit. He knew all the evidence pointed to another woman. He did not care. They offered me something called and ACD but I said no. That I wanted to go to trial. I was found not guilty in 15 minutes. The jury AND the judge met me in the hallway afterwards and apologized for what I went through. You see I was put behind bars in a holding sell for 11 hours as they were about to process me to go to Riker's Island. I lost my job and my pension EVEN though I was innocent. I sued and though it took 7 years I settled for $1/4M. That might seem like a lot but my career was ruined and I had to start all over again. When I shared my story with law students, I always said that it would have been much worse if I were black. Also, the detective stated that I was arrested because of a new initiative by of all people the then mayor, the now disbarred Rudy G. I would not wish my story or this one on my worst enemy. The detective in my case was not reprimanded and retired with a full pension.

    • @JerseySwanBeezy
      @JerseySwanBeezy Před 10 měsíci +16

      Right! I love how he says that he's not here to say he was wrong since he never got to to close the investigation or whatever exactly he said like come on! Obviously something was wrong otherwise you wouldn't have been taken off the case! And what's with the other guys stealing the drugs?! 🙄😮‍💨

    • @woodworkingandepoxy643
      @woodworkingandepoxy643 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@MermaidDolphinNYClet's not bring race into it. Cops victimize us all, it doesn't matter the race. Just because they don't cover it when it happens to a white person because it doesn't meet their agenda doesn't mean it isn't true

    • @R.O.T.C._SEEM
      @R.O.T.C._SEEM Před 9 měsíci +12

      Because he didn't. He purposely did it

    • @FaithandNova
      @FaithandNova Před 9 měsíci

      @@MermaidDolphinNYCnot surprised. My ex husband and I know so many nypd and correctional officers. They had explained to us so many times about the quotas that had to be meet. There was even a lot of black detectives that was suing nypd cuz of how they became detectives compared to their white colleagues. Nypd is full of corruption

  • @stargirl9105
    @stargirl9105 Před 10 měsíci +1323

    The fact that he omitted *EVIDENCE* to put the innocent people in jail! I'm appalled.

    • @jodygotyourgirlngone
      @jodygotyourgirlngone Před 10 měsíci +91

      This is why I'm hesitant to be for the death penalty any more. Too many people have been railroaded due to their backgrounds vs. hard evidence/science.

    • @TheRetroWoman80
      @TheRetroWoman80 Před 10 měsíci +64

      It's sad that this happens everyday. He is just one who got caught in law enforcement.

    • @blueblue5427
      @blueblue5427 Před 10 měsíci +9

      @@jodygotyourgirlngone I agree

    • @chonqmonk
      @chonqmonk Před 10 měsíci +81

      Ahhh, I think I've identified the discrepancy; you saw 3 *innocent* people, and he saw 3 black people.

    • @hoorirafieian9612
      @hoorirafieian9612 Před 10 měsíci +6

      @@jodygotyourgirlngone Such a great point!

  • @dragonclaws9367
    @dragonclaws9367 Před 10 měsíci +252

    I hope she sues OConnell for lost wages suffering, hate crimes, and anything she can. What a horrible man.

  • @nancarter5474
    @nancarter5474 Před 5 měsíci +128

    The tenacious reporter was so invested to help those people who were innocent and needed a voice he actually cried. What a kind and wonderful man.

  • @C-CEuroPopMusic
    @C-CEuroPopMusic Před 10 měsíci +868

    O'Connell was not just a bad cop he was a racist. End off. Those three alleged victims shall never get their lives back. Terrible. He deserved a longer sentence. May the victim rest in peace and her beloved daughter find peace in those relatives that now love and care for her.

    • @countof3everybodyOD
      @countof3everybodyOD Před 10 měsíci

      Saying end of or full stop just makes you sound like a brainlet

    • @genakirkland5528
      @genakirkland5528 Před 10 měsíci

      Diffinitely an idiot and Racist.God help all the righteous people.This kind of Law enforcement are not supposed to serve our country and our community.

    • @abadirzulu5249
      @abadirzulu5249 Před 10 měsíci +26

      AMEN

    • @hyunjiniret87
      @hyunjiniret87 Před 10 měsíci +4

      LOL

    • @bradleysitsandsipstea33
      @bradleysitsandsipstea33 Před 10 měsíci +23

      There’s a dead woman and they managed to make this episode all about the black people who still have their lives. Stupid

  • @aramirez320
    @aramirez320 Před 10 měsíci +566

    Her death exposed the corruption in that police station, it's unfortunate but I believe her death saved a lot of future heartache. RIP sweetheart 😢

    • @NujwOayk
      @NujwOayk Před 10 měsíci +13

      That police station is the rule, not the exception.

    • @moniqueloomis9772
      @moniqueloomis9772 Před 10 měsíci +8

      ​@@NujwOaykExactly. ACAB. Unfortunately, the officer that was robbed of life is a good individual.

    • @jimwerther
      @jimwerther Před 10 měsíci +5

      ​@@moniqueloomis9772
      Who are you going to call if you are attacked? A social worker? Loser take by you.

    • @WangHamgLow4U
      @WangHamgLow4U Před 10 měsíci +9

      @@jimwertherNEGATIVE!!! I’d call SMITH&WESSON 😂

    • @jimwerther
      @jimwerther Před 10 měsíci

      @@WangHamgLow4U
      Yeah, but I don't think monique is.

  • @Dhruv_Dogra
    @Dhruv_Dogra Před 9 měsíci +142

    The tears in the eyes of the 'newspaper man', that wonderful wonderful true journalist brought the same to mine. We don't have enough journalists like him in this world and we need them desperately

  • @juned1719
    @juned1719 Před 4 měsíci +57

    O’Connell deserves prison. The fact that he wasn’t even remorseful for what he did to those 3 innocent people is sickening.

    • @tropistan7735
      @tropistan7735 Před 2 měsíci +4

      🌺🌹🌺 for the judge!! I was shocked and elated she sentenced him to prison. So many judges just keep perpetuating the cycle of corruption

  • @techlife9853
    @techlife9853 Před 10 měsíci +981

    The new Sheriff, is a LEGEND - his work ethic and his compassion are beacons of hope for humanity ... I hope Heathers family find some peace now in their lives ...

  • @twilight79010
    @twilight79010 Před 10 měsíci +991

    Thank god for the new sheriff and prosecutor, who took the accusations against O'Connell seriously. We need more people like this in law enforcement and the court system.

    • @justincredible.
      @justincredible. Před 10 měsíci +3

      And for making a divine plan with The killer, the victim and the daughter in it, and did NOTHING to stop it.

    • @inmininsingapore1624
      @inmininsingapore1624 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Pili²jluĵ²1l7

    • @thunderstruck1078
      @thunderstruck1078 Před 10 měsíci +1

      The new sheriff is a smug snake.

    • @MonaLyssa33
      @MonaLyssa33 Před 10 měsíci +19

      ​@@thunderstruck1078Are you O'Connell??

    • @thunderstruck1078
      @thunderstruck1078 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@MonaLyssa33 I'm the new sheriff.

  • @IraRochaa
    @IraRochaa Před 9 měsíci +47

    This journalist was so brave for listening to Kyona and fight for her case. RIP Heather, died too soon😢

  • @Findpepperbridge
    @Findpepperbridge Před 10 měsíci +93

    Tunnel vision almost sent three innocent people to prison… he didn’t even care. He deserved more than 2 years. The new sheriff was awesome! The new reporter was the only reason there was justice in the end. He literally saved three lives.

    • @CHELSEABuckhannon
      @CHELSEABuckhannon Před 8 měsíci +1

      AMEN ❤

    • @The_Real_Mier
      @The_Real_Mier Před 4 měsíci +3

      Tunnel vision? You mean ‘racism and classism’ instead of ‘tunnel vision’…!
      I agree with the rest of your comment though !!

  • @bbb4228
    @bbb4228 Před 10 měsíci +760

    Dirty cops should be sent to federal prison and placed in the general population with ZERO extra protection. People who abuse their power deserve to have theirs completely stripped away.

  • @sydneyfairbairn3773
    @sydneyfairbairn3773 Před 10 měsíci +610

    How horrible that 10 other women had already been raped and did not feel supported enough to report it.

    • @EchoJ
      @EchoJ Před 10 měsíci +71

      Yes, and supposedly in a community that's safe to raise kids🙄
      These true crime shows always get me when they start out saying how close knit and idyllic these places are right before detailing horrific crimes of passion, greed, and debauchery. Like, clearly, they aren't that safe/good.

    • @fairplayer7435
      @fairplayer7435 Před 10 měsíci +35

      Could it be that they knew about the local police incompetence?

    • @carieyoung1111
      @carieyoung1111 Před 10 měsíci +11

      Unbelievable!!! Those women should not be ashamed of rape / they should be ashamed they didn’t stop this monster!

    • @funwithFred
      @funwithFred Před 10 měsíci +21

      Oh you bet, and horrible is that.....and I know the feeling. Oh yes I do. I have to laugh when I hear "oh why didn't she report it" in certain communities.........and I am so glad they aired this case, as you can darn well see why.

    • @sweett9987
      @sweett9987 Před 10 měsíci +24

      ​@@carieyoung1111OI!
      -Much easier said than done.
      -One should never victim blame or shame.
      -Life is not merely black and white.

  • @ayannag4760
    @ayannag4760 Před 7 měsíci +31

    Grateful for the journalists in this town, they really came through for the community and victims of the police.

  • @user-jz2uj1mr5c
    @user-jz2uj1mr5c Před 9 měsíci +28

    What a disgusting cop. His ego was more important than catching a killer.

  • @leahforrest9155
    @leahforrest9155 Před 10 měsíci +165

    Disgusting how the 1st investigator said...what else could we have done?

    • @TheRetroWoman80
      @TheRetroWoman80 Před 10 měsíci +16

      Ikr. When you are that deep in your hate and arrogance there is nothing else you're going to do. Pat themselves on the back and enjoy their lives not giving a ish about others is what they usually do.

    • @jr_san
      @jr_san Před 10 měsíci +36

      Even more when he said " Why would I apologize?" What a pos, he should have gotten more years.

    • @ember1794
      @ember1794 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Just as he said that I accidentally ended up in this thread 😲

    • @c.l.montoya2972
      @c.l.montoya2972 Před 4 měsíci +1

      First investigator O’Connell said one truth about himself, “detectives are wrong all the time”. His status quo attitude was blatant incompetence & it stalled the Heather Bogle case. O’Connell’s incompetence was rightly documented by Matt Westerhold from the local newspaper. It’s a sad shame O’Connell’s lack of integrity severely impacted Keyona’s life.
      I hope she was able to get reparation from the convicted detective & the convicted sheriff.

    • @yadirasmith2430
      @yadirasmith2430 Před 4 dny

      Terrible!

  • @hoorirafieian9612
    @hoorirafieian9612 Před 10 měsíci +508

    To have a nasty break up, fail your exam and receive THAT text from your brother, only to get tortured and murdered is beyond heartbreaking 💔
    And that disgusting scumbag who went after three innocent individuals only because they didn’t have a voice, most probably letting the killer commit more crimes before he was caught..

    • @Zbee167
      @Zbee167 Před 10 měsíci +13

      THIS!!!

    • @charlotteswebbing
      @charlotteswebbing Před 10 měsíci +2

      The time timeline is off.

    • @erikschultz6865
      @erikschultz6865 Před 9 měsíci +11

      I wonder why the brother went at her like thst.

    • @fredgarvin4482
      @fredgarvin4482 Před 9 měsíci +26

      The brother is the worst. How could you say that to your sister?

    • @c.a.5808
      @c.a.5808 Před 9 měsíci +3

      AMEN 🙏 Well said.

  • @binitakatuwal7242
    @binitakatuwal7242 Před 9 měsíci +5

    That Sheriff deserves at least 20years behind the bar coz he almost taken 3 innocent people’s whole life. Pathetic he is so arrogant

  • @patrisha7487
    @patrisha7487 Před 10 měsíci +35

    Bless Matt Westerhold for his brilliant journalism. His tears are testimony to the kind of person he is.

  • @emmyrose1802
    @emmyrose1802 Před 10 měsíci +1592

    I am glad the bad cop was held accountable.

    • @margaretwhittaker2291
      @margaretwhittaker2291 Před 10 měsíci +96

      YES!! He was unbowed to the end, couldn't even apologise to those 3 people he wronged, just appalling.

    • @JohnWickPotter
      @JohnWickPotter Před 10 měsíci +73

      I’m sure he thought his whiteness would overcome everything.

    • @jimwerther
      @jimwerther Před 10 měsíci +25

      ​@@JohnWickPotter
      The only thing you can prove about the first investigator is his incompetence, nothing else. YT commenters unaware of the concept of _irony_ are accusing him of racism and corruption: Every one of those commenters are guilty of a measure of exactly what they accuse him of. Oh, the irony.

    • @tooldog5062
      @tooldog5062 Před 10 měsíci +14

      doesn't change what happen to Heather after, Hebrews 9:27 took place, our society has twisted Gods word, what do you think he said to Heather when she stood before him in judgement! people dont look beyond the crime for the victim, it doesn't make any difference how a person dies its what they did and didnt do with their lives, if they had Christ as their savior or had rejected him! every friend ive had die in the past never knew Christ and that fact means i will never see them again!

    • @janireland
      @janireland Před 10 měsíci

      @@jimwerther Obstruction, withholding evidence. And that's a fact!

  • @JJJJ-gl2uf
    @JJJJ-gl2uf Před 10 měsíci +158

    That judge didn't waste any time saying "Take him into custody!" And she meant it.

  • @amna6024
    @amna6024 Před 10 měsíci +10

    the journalist that exposed oconnell is such a good man

  • @shawnagraves8582
    @shawnagraves8582 Před 5 měsíci +10

    This is a stand up reporter and a prime example of why freedom of press should remain a protected, inalienable right.

  • @selcukcilek555
    @selcukcilek555 Před 10 měsíci +374

    I think the community has to stand up for that innocent single mum. Police and even the journalist have to have a word or two with her former employer to take her back assuming she couldn't find a new job.

    • @maliroa6113
      @maliroa6113 Před 10 měsíci +61

      Absolutely! If I were her I'd being suing left and right!

    • @HN-kk7vy
      @HN-kk7vy Před 10 měsíci +18

      I’m sure she is

    • @sherride2002
      @sherride2002 Před 10 měsíci +25

      And this is how a lot of people end up on welfare. She should sue the entire department for letting him stay there.

    • @Zbee167
      @Zbee167 Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@maliroa6113 THIS RIGHT HERE!!!!

    • @kamivenus753
      @kamivenus753 Před 10 měsíci +7

      She Should sue

  • @FrankieFranks44
    @FrankieFranks44 Před 10 měsíci +129

    We all went to school with a guy like O’Connell.

    • @artisthusnatalal3099
      @artisthusnatalal3099 Před 10 měsíci +13

      True. He was our class prefect and he used to write my name in the noisemakers list everyday 🤨

    • @LGwild13
      @LGwild13 Před 10 měsíci

      Glasgow montana is full of them...few are Leo's and probation and still are racist f*cks

    • @alllifematters
      @alllifematters Před 10 měsíci

      Some of us unfortunately live in little American hellholes full of men like O'Connell! It's hilarious! A town where you gotta get permission to walk in front of their vehicles and in other towns, men might open the door for you out of common decency but here the men always go through the door first... Lebanon, Oregon is home to the psychopathic, racist, mysoginist male

    • @lesevans6567
      @lesevans6567 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Bully

    • @CHELSEABuckhannon
      @CHELSEABuckhannon Před 8 měsíci +5

      Bully and Racist

  • @rottweilerfun9520
    @rottweilerfun9520 Před 8 měsíci +11

    Not only did O'Connell mess up the three peoples lives , he also put every woman in the area in danger by having Danny Myers loose on the street to continue his crimes. They need to go through all of his old cases to look for more instances of wrongdoing.

  • @danadomino
    @danadomino Před 10 měsíci +26

    Wow. Shout out to the new sheriff, the prosecutor, and the reporter who all seemed to be really determined to get proper justice for Heather! I get the impression that they all took it to heart. ❤ I think between the three of them, residents of Sandusky are in good hands.

  • @buddhafortune6166
    @buddhafortune6166 Před 10 měsíci +311

    Wow Keyona is a strong woman hopefully she was able to recoup from this bad police work. And prayers to the victims family. Respect to the new sheriff

    • @ransom6892
      @ransom6892 Před 10 měsíci +4

      Woman gets brutally murdered
      You: “Oh poor Keyona”

    • @buddhafortune6166
      @buddhafortune6166 Před 10 měsíci +38

      @@ransom6892 read the comment yea the she murdered but if the police had did the work he supposed to do, a poor lady wouldn’t have to suffer .

    • @Phoenix-cz6hh
      @Phoenix-cz6hh Před 10 měsíci +48

      @@ransom6892 you cant tell anybody to take back their statement. Shut up! Poor Keyona was an innocent victim of the police force and justice system. The other victim is dead because of a psycho. The difference is that Keyona is still alive and experiences the trauma of what happen. So take several seats in the back Tom.

    • @ransom6892
      @ransom6892 Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@Phoenix-cz6hh I didn’t tell that person to take back their statement. Learn how to read. They deceptively edited their initial comment after my reply.

    • @jimwerther
      @jimwerther Před 10 měsíci +3

      ​@@Phoenix-cz6hh
      The OP did edit the comment

  • @gwen08g35
    @gwen08g35 Před 10 měsíci +300

    People are becoming increasingly numb to things like this. I watch a lot of True Crime, it blows my minds at just HOW much evil is out there. It’s sickening. That poor girl, that got accused of this horrific crime, lost her job, her apartment, and reputation. Over what? She didn’t even do anything to poor Heather. Corrupt cops make me sick. I’m glad they found the POS that did it too!

    • @sherryrunslate9678
      @sherryrunslate9678 Před 10 měsíci +23

      I would have gotten a lawyer and sued the city and the place that she was employed at and fired from due to the negligence of the police work. I wouldn’t allow myself to be made into a victim.

    • @moniqueloomis9772
      @moniqueloomis9772 Před 10 měsíci +18

      ​@@sherryrunslate9678Even getting justice as you described she should have, doesn't change the fact that she or you were victimized; thus a victim. Victims aren't the problem. Predators are. Stop victim blaming and shaming. 🙄

    • @ladyp5908
      @ladyp5908 Před 10 měsíci

      Exactly I hate racists with a passion! It's simply evil!!

    • @srichey444
      @srichey444 Před 10 měsíci +6

      The Bible prophecied in The Last Days that evil would abound. The devil wants to take as many souls as he can by getting people to do every evil thing imaginable. You ain't seen nothing yet...

    • @jimwerther
      @jimwerther Před 10 měsíci +1

      Not corrupt. Incompetent.

  • @dreamofmermaids
    @dreamofmermaids Před 2 měsíci +7

    I was waiting for his heart felt apologies.....I guess hell will have to freeze over

  • @SatieSatie
    @SatieSatie Před 10 měsíci +47

    Everyone focuses on the bad cop and forgets the victim. The way she was tortured and murdered is haunting, I can't even imagine how her daughter must have felt when she was old enough to understand the blood-curdling circumstances of her mother's death.
    May she rest in peace. 🌷

  • @Goldiegirl2009
    @Goldiegirl2009 Před 10 měsíci +198

    Dateline did this story and in it Heather’s family were so frustrated with Sean O’Connell. They voiced pretty early on that they wanted another investigator. It’s baffling how he can stand by his investigation and not take the DNA evidence from her body into consideration and rule out those three innocent people. Instead of investigating to see where the evidence takes him, he tried to find a way to implicate them without a shred of evidence. It’s scary how he looks so believable in his interviews. He served 25 years on the force? Makes you wonder if he had such tunnel vision on his other cases and possible innocent people in prison. Glad that monster is where he belongs and Heather finally got justice. RIP.

    • @Lady_Angela1
      @Lady_Angela1 Před 10 měsíci +39

      Im sure he did. All of his cases need to be reviewed.

    • @digby_dooright
      @digby_dooright Před 10 měsíci +24

      I also feel bad for the innocent lady who's life was almost ruined because of him. She seemed really nice. I hope she sued the department.

    • @kamivenus753
      @kamivenus753 Před 10 měsíci +8

      Tunnel vision aka racism 😂

    • @TheDriftwoodlover
      @TheDriftwoodlover Před 10 měsíci +7

      Of course he behaved this way before. It’s a pattern he’s gotten away with all those years. But he didn’t get a long enough sentence.

    • @Queenlife101
      @Queenlife101 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Lady_Angela1most definitely

  • @R.PMcMurphy
    @R.PMcMurphy Před 10 měsíci +316

    I like the new sheriff, I think the residents of Sandusky are in good hands with him 👍
    And hats off to the journalist, one of the very few left that aren't political pawns and are just looking for the truth

    • @ancadanielaspataru3985
      @ancadanielaspataru3985 Před 10 měsíci +2

      ❤❤❤❤

    • @susantulleynehus5054
      @susantulleynehus5054 Před 10 měsíci +3

      The journalist was a little over the top. The crying was somewhat self-congratulatory. He’s just a big lib who will always blame the police. I am NOT condoning the mistakes of the first policeman but how can people read his heart and say that “he’s a racist!” I think he should have lost his job for sloppy police work but to put someone in prison who served this country in the military and then had a 25 year service as a policeman is too much. Unless there were other examples of racism over his 25 years, then this was lazy and sloppy work. Since nothing else was brought up that would indicate that he was trying to fix cases against people due to racism, then this was overkill and that journalist poured fuel on the fire. That’s what these lefties do. They hate the police and any time they can, they try to bring them down. I do not see him as some great protector of justice as he sees himself. His tears were for himself and how great he thinks he is. 🤮

    • @per_se_phone
      @per_se_phone Před 10 měsíci +19

      @@susantulleynehus5054 Very vile and disgusting take

    • @R.PMcMurphy
      @R.PMcMurphy Před 10 měsíci +15

      @@susantulleynehus5054 sounds to me like you are exactly what you hate. Which is very common. 😆

    • @EvaAcosta-of6yl
      @EvaAcosta-of6yl Před 10 měsíci +2

      Like Chris Hayes, well both Chris's

  • @Lommy9999
    @Lommy9999 Před 4 měsíci +7

    That is pure racism. Unbelievable. That cop needs to be locked up forever. These victims need to be compensated.

  • @simplycrafte7844
    @simplycrafte7844 Před 10 měsíci +9

    That reporter…to see his tears for the families. That was a moment for the heart.

  • @gaiagreen2690
    @gaiagreen2690 Před 10 měsíci +178

    - Do you think you should appologize to those three innocent people (whom you kept accusing and destroyed their lives)?
    - Why would I apppologize to them?!
    - Because they were innocent?
    - How do we KNOW they were innocent?
    The next day he gets convicted for intentionally concealing DNA evidence which PROVES that they were innocent.
    This is the true face of racism. He is so obssessed with hate, he literally cannot admit and accept that he tried to frame them because they were black and let the real murderer go free and keep killing.
    O'Connel had to force himself as Kianna was speaking in the court, and that look of arrogance tells everything.

    • @jimwerther
      @jimwerther Před 10 měsíci +3

      The only thing you can prove about the first investigator is his incompetence, nothing else. YT commenters unaware of the concept of _irony_ are accusing him of racism and corruption: Every one of those commenters are guilty of a measure of exactly what they accuse him of. Oh, the irony.

    • @craigime
      @craigime Před 10 měsíci +9

      @@jimwerther i agree with you that you can't accuse him of racism since there is no proof of that... but how are those commenters guilty of what they're accusing him of?

    • @jimwerther
      @jimwerther Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@craigime
      1. Thank you
      2. I wrote that they are guilty of an element of what they accuse him of, because they are making a false accusation against him while complaining that he falsely accused those three innocent people.

    • @TheRetroWoman80
      @TheRetroWoman80 Před 10 měsíci +15

      Those were the most insensitive replies to say to those HE KNOWS he did wrong. Karma will visit him.

    • @craigime
      @craigime Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@jimwerther oh ok, i get you

  • @LotsofLisa
    @LotsofLisa Před 10 měsíci +187

    I can’t even imagine all the lives the former sheriff in terrible cop McConnell have destroyed for whatever their own purposes were. Every family involved in this case should be suing the living daylights out of whatever sheriffs department that is. Heather’s family should be practically insane with anger. The way the new law enforcement personnel came in and did basic police work and solve the case is just unbelievable and thank God for them.

    • @alllifematters
      @alllifematters Před 10 měsíci +10

      Yeah it's not always that easy to follow the breadcrumbs of corrupt law enforcement especially for other law enforcement because they always protect one another which is so wrong

    • @justincredible.
      @justincredible. Před 10 měsíci +3

      The god that had all this in his divine plan? Creating the killer, the victim and the daughter, and did nothing to stop it, that god?

    • @fremontpathfinder8463
      @fremontpathfinder8463 Před 10 měsíci +6

      Every one of O'Connell's past cases should be looked at

    • @smears6039
      @smears6039 Před měsícem

      @@fremontpathfinder8463I think they are being looked at and possibly retried, but sadly for his victims the justice system is incredibly slow moving and they will lose more years of their lives while waiting for their answers.

  • @kurt6410
    @kurt6410 Před 10 měsíci +57

    Just imagine how many other cops that are doing and have done the exact same thing but have never gotten caught

    • @labelledujour5855
      @labelledujour5855 Před 10 měsíci +2

      😭

    • @cynthg9547
      @cynthg9547 Před 2 měsíci

      A lot

    • @dberd9149
      @dberd9149 Před 12 dny +1

      Come on now, that is not fair. There are bad people in all different jobs! Just because, one horrible one, don’t accuse them all!

  • @alejandrovargas7592
    @alejandrovargas7592 Před 10 měsíci +2

    48 Hours is the best of all crime shows hands down.

  • @andraclark9993
    @andraclark9993 Před 10 měsíci +198

    I'm so sick of people saying this is not the place that crime happens! Crime happens every where it's just not always being reported.

    • @alllifematters
      @alllifematters Před 10 měsíci +10

      Crime especially happens in places where everyone looks to be as status quo as possible . That's always where the real criminals are

    • @gordonaliasme1104
      @gordonaliasme1104 Před 10 měsíci +10

      Manicured lawns and white picket fences . Suburbia, where secrets hide behind twitchy curtains...

    • @moniqueloomis9772
      @moniqueloomis9772 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Exactly. So many cold cases...

    • @grneys45
      @grneys45 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Exactly

    • @jimwerther
      @jimwerther Před 10 měsíci +1

      Not true, of course. There are neighborhoods where violent crime never happens.

  • @melvinlovejones
    @melvinlovejones Před 10 měsíci +173

    The O’Connell’s within law enforcement need to be sentenced life in prison without parole for this type of corruption. This contributes to the rot of society by destroying innocent lives while letting (deadly) criminals remain on the loose.

    • @kimcwhite6509
      @kimcwhite6509 Před 10 měsíci +6

      I agree! It would be a great deterrent!

    • @natalyahadley4109
      @natalyahadley4109 Před 10 měsíci +7

      You're absolutely right and I also believe anybody serving time convicted by evidence produced by him should be released immediately and retried!!!
      O'Connell's run the Police Departments!!!

    • @TheRetroWoman80
      @TheRetroWoman80 Před 10 měsíci +3

      💯

    • @hirainawhaanga6253
      @hirainawhaanga6253 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I'm still reeling from the shock that he still thinks those three black people were still worth pursuing even after evidence of DNA proved otherwise. Then had a cheek to leave the findings out if the report.

  • @SusanaXpeace2u
    @SusanaXpeace2u Před 10 měsíci +16

    Horrible that the police were told about a man at whirlpool that they should look at and they just ignored that information 😢😢😢

  • @ThePratech
    @ThePratech Před 6 měsíci +8

    This is sick at so many levels.

  • @furball192
    @furball192 Před 10 měsíci +92

    Keyona works hard to provide for her family working in a nursing home. Sean O'Connell over here in his mansion, driving around in his corvette, he just makes me sick. Sean O'Connell is a liar, a cheat, a disgusting, horrible person. SO deserved more than 2 years for the lives he's destroyed

  • @eyeamthateyeam86
    @eyeamthateyeam86 Před 10 měsíci +108

    He was so determined to put 3 innocent blk ppl behind bars he didn’t give a damn about the evidence. He should have gotten MORE TIME. Thank you to the new sheriff who did his job the correct way. I wish more cops were honest and respected the law.

    • @jimwerther
      @jimwerther Před 10 měsíci

      The only thing you can prove about the first investigator is his incompetence, nothing else. YT commenters unaware of the concept of _irony_ are accusing him of racism and corruption: Every one of those commenters are guilty of a measure of exactly what they accuse him of. Oh, the irony.

    • @Crazyman23
      @Crazyman23 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@jimwertherOmar also had bad luck. He was a convicted felon from Michigan caught in Ohio with a firearm with its serial number filed off.

    • @jimwerther
      @jimwerther Před 10 měsíci

      @@Crazyman23
      Is that bad luck? Anyway, how do you know about all this? Do you know him, or did you see that on a different video?

    • @Crazyman23
      @Crazyman23 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@jimwerther i got one unique perspective on the case due to being directly related to Heather. When O'Connell had him picked up the federal system stepped in for the possession of the guns. This story also does not state how the entire investigation started by trying to find a silver crossover before coming across her car at the apartments.

    • @show_me_your_kitties
      @show_me_your_kitties Před 10 měsíci +1

      Lol all you people see is color 😂

  • @risoscafes
    @risoscafes Před 7 měsíci +5

    I'm so glad how judge Patricia talked to him, before sentencing him
    To send a message to the other law enforcement

  • @cipriannechifor3974
    @cipriannechifor3974 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Much Respect for the Sheriff and the reporter. R.I.P Lady

  • @rickipacaci1338
    @rickipacaci1338 Před 10 měsíci +49

    Fantastic the judge made O’Connell accountable. Justice was served!!! He’s despicable.

  • @BLAZENYCBLACKOPS
    @BLAZENYCBLACKOPS Před 10 měsíci +29

    That officer deserves a lot of credit, he didn’t get tunnel vision like the first two crooked cops.

  • @lizs5709
    @lizs5709 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Cannot stand when people describe dead people as beautiful , as if it's a much bigger loss than an ugly person…

    • @ohioguy215
      @ohioguy215 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Exactly how do you define an "ugly person" ?

    • @lizs5709
      @lizs5709 Před 5 měsíci

      @@ohioguy215 he was referring to her LOOKS, not her beautiful soul🙄...he didn't know anything about her, except that she was pretty

  • @Objection_23and1
    @Objection_23and1 Před 10 měsíci +17

    I feel bad for Lori Ann I lost my sister to a tragedy and I think about her every single day and moment of my life. Also thank god for that new sheriff!!

  • @Thomas-eu6fj
    @Thomas-eu6fj Před 10 měsíci +77

    Probably the best Crime documentary on CZcams. Unlike many other there is no "Recreation" or any Corny stuff. It's the real thing.

    • @stee8345
      @stee8345 Před 10 měsíci +11

      48hrs wasn't made for CZcams tho...its been on primtime TV for decades so there's really no comparison here on CZcams

    • @ransom6892
      @ransom6892 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@stee8345Yep way bigger budget

    • @craigime
      @craigime Před 10 měsíci +1

      yeah the recreations are unnecessary

    • @supriseimblack
      @supriseimblack Před 10 měsíci

      48 hours is in a different league--»b/c they don't just cover story. If 48 hours, is covering it: you automatically know to buckle in and pack a lunch..

    • @Sam-pq3oy
      @Sam-pq3oy Před 10 měsíci +3

      But I have a problem with the 48hours reporters always makingn faces, tilting their heads and asking obvious questions, to much acting.

  • @chrismanspeaker9372
    @chrismanspeaker9372 Před 10 měsíci +72

    You cannot even say the new guy did a fantastic job, all you can say is he did his job.

  • @JBrodo
    @JBrodo Před 10 měsíci +20

    The moment Keyona Bor came up in the episode, I was like, "Wait, did I miss something? Who is this? How did she know Heather?" And thought it was bad writing on 48 Hours part for not explaining who she was. Nope, turns out it was that way because she really was randomly inserted in the investigation!!! Unbelievable.

    • @cosmos5623
      @cosmos5623 Před 10 měsíci +3

      That Mickey Mouse sweater. I think I had one myself.

    • @maryanne7161
      @maryanne7161 Před 9 měsíci

      I think she lived across the street from Heather? I could be wrong though. Sorry.

  • @adalade9193
    @adalade9193 Před 10 měsíci +10

    It's terrible that Heather's brother called her 'stupid' for failing her boards. He has to live w/ that. (Does he not know how many people fail their boards the 1st time in any testing situation? Medical, attorney, etc.)

    • @charlotteswebbing
      @charlotteswebbing Před 10 měsíci +1

      That has not to do with this .Keep spreading Heather 's story 🙏

  • @tori0083
    @tori0083 Před 10 měsíci +19

    That judge basically said, “Not today…not on my watch!” 😊

  • @denisel2652
    @denisel2652 Před 10 měsíci +27

    Sheriff Hilton I’m so thankful you cared about “getting it right” for Heather. It’s a pleasure to breathe the same air with you !

  • @maclac48
    @maclac48 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Good police work is priceless.

  • @Ren0799
    @Ren0799 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Kuddos to the judge for sentencing that crooked cop. We don’t need liars serving the community or courts.

  • @crystalallen9340
    @crystalallen9340 Před 10 měsíci +63

    This is bitter sweet. Sorry for the lost of this wonderful woman and her daughter. Thank God for the few good people in this judicial system. The newspaper editor, the new sherif , the judge . I pray the innocent parties can get their lives back .

  • @redwatch.
    @redwatch. Před 10 měsíci +70

    This reminds me of the Long Island serial killer case. A corrupt cop slowed down the investigation for years. I am so grateful for all the good cops and journalists out there! I hope Keyona is compensated monetarily for what was done to her.

  • @LLace
    @LLace Před 7 měsíci +3

    Salute to Sheriff Hilton for solving this case !

  • @cmsmith1973
    @cmsmith1973 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I think every single case that dirty cop worked on should be looked at to be sure he didget get innocent people locked up. Good for that judge for sending him to prison. He had zero remorse for what he did to the people he accused and he took no accountability. Its sick

  • @rqdh22501
    @rqdh22501 Před 10 měsíci +15

    This why we need to make sure to support local newspapers

  • @billmcg1676
    @billmcg1676 Před 10 měsíci +56

    Another great job by 48 hours. Always enjoy your stories, though tragic. RIP Heather

  • @hphsstudent916
    @hphsstudent916 Před 8 měsíci +3

    First cop 100% let his racism run the investigation.

  • @charlotteswebbing
    @charlotteswebbing Před 10 měsíci +6

    Rest in heaven and continue to watch over your daughter 🕊️✨

  • @maanmohammad8459
    @maanmohammad8459 Před 10 měsíci +47

    This was so easy to solve and it's unbelievable that the first detective didn't bother to check her phone record and then he claims boldly what else could've been done.The first thing cops check for is who was the last person who saw the victim.

    • @TheRetroWoman80
      @TheRetroWoman80 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Some cops are so lazy. Or stressed and under pressure to "get it done" from their superiors that these type of results come about. So sad.

    • @Daltonsfurbabies
      @Daltonsfurbabies Před 9 měsíci

      ​​@@TheRetroWoman80specially racist cops who think of someone as guilty based on the color of their skin. He didn't even try to find more evidence and facts ! That's horrible , the sick psychopath was free to do only God knows what , and had the detective done his job that psychopath killer could have already been in prison where he belongs. ( Actually he belongs 6 ft under , but the system is to lenient on murderers. I feel when the psychopath killers are proven guilty with evidence , they should get death ! Not get to live in prison with food and tv privileges , no they shouldn't have a life on earth at all .

    • @diwataluna
      @diwataluna Před 3 měsíci +1

      But he did take the time to check Keyona's Facebook posts. Insane.

  • @jamisenmyers9301
    @jamisenmyers9301 Před 10 měsíci +16

    I absolutely love the heart of both the newspaperman and the new Sheriff... Praise God for both of them!!

  • @sexycarolina3035
    @sexycarolina3035 Před 9 měsíci +9

    He pleaded guilty but yet still trying to justify his actions. Can’t believe he really omitted DNA evidence. In his mind he really believes he right. Most shocking thing was someone else had given him the killer’s name and he didn’t follow up.

  • @marilyndeleon7248
    @marilyndeleon7248 Před 9 měsíci +2

    What hurts the most is his lack of emotion during the family's impact statements. May the rest in peace. Prayers for the family... 🙏💔😭

  • @iyalove9383
    @iyalove9383 Před 10 měsíci +24

    So, he'd rather a pscho sex predator murderer go free and 3 innocent black people go to prison/death penalty. Hateful racist much... Thank God for that journalist 🙏

    • @jimwerther
      @jimwerther Před 10 měsíci

      The only thing you can prove about the first investigator is his incompetence, nothing else. YT commenters unaware of the concept of _irony_ are accusing him of racism and corruption: Every one of those commenters are guilty of a measure of exactly what they accuse him of. Oh, the irony.

  • @Marylovely05
    @Marylovely05 Před 10 měsíci +46

    Kudos to the police officers involved in this case! They demonstrated remarkable professionalism in dealing with both the misconduct of the bad cop and the apprehension of the killer. Their exceptional work is commendable.

  • @scottaznavourian3720
    @scottaznavourian3720 Před 3 měsíci +3

    'His 25 years of service'
    And how many other cases did he do this on?

  • @danielboston8806
    @danielboston8806 Před 2 měsíci +3

    The young lady went to the reporter for help, the reporter investigated and brought light to the story.. he didn’t stop. His hard work was rewarded when authorities forced the crooked sheriff and detective to resign. The new sheriff was relentless in finding the true killer. What a story!

  • @lennon1499
    @lennon1499 Před 10 měsíci +23

    Hopefully the woman sued that cop

  • @T4KE_A_BREATH
    @T4KE_A_BREATH Před 10 měsíci +19

    Shout out to that reporter!! He a real one.. I’ve never been more mad about a case…

    • @Crazyman23
      @Crazyman23 Před 10 měsíci

      The reporter didn't really do much tho. I never heard of him nor anyone else. As direct family I can say he didn't talk to family of Heather.

    • @myrtlearnold6976
      @myrtlearnold6976 Před 10 měsíci

      Where were the Pro Bono attorneys when this happened???

  • @jessicamorales2555
    @jessicamorales2555 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Wow, what a case! 48hours always on top. This case trapped me till the end. Best moments: the bad cop becoming accountable, the good journalist in tears, and the good cops speaking softly and non judgeamentaly about doing the right thing. Just amazing.

  • @gregwilliams3120
    @gregwilliams3120 Před 7 měsíci +3

    That dirty cop deserved more than two years. He ruined that poor girl's life.

  • @kerrynock2016
    @kerrynock2016 Před 10 měsíci +25

    The former cop didn't care about the families of the people he was accusing

  • @sassysara223
    @sassysara223 Před 10 měsíci +49

    That cop deserved no less than 5 full years.

    • @beautifulone5509
      @beautifulone5509 Před 9 měsíci

      He should have gotten life! Racist lier who tried to send people to prison for LIFE!!

  • @Rosielinsky
    @Rosielinsky Před 9 měsíci +5

    I just know that other trash detective is the type of person that is too stubborn to admit he’s wrong and that’s usually caused by a big ego. He’s hellbent on his assumptions of those 3 that he’s not making sense anymore it’s almost laughable to be honest.

  • @MermaidDolphinNYC
    @MermaidDolphinNYC Před 10 měsíci +18

    I had an awful experience with a NYC detective. To make a long story short, he targeted me for a crime I did not commit. He knew all the evidence pointed to another woman. He did not care. They offered me something called and ACD but I said no. That I wanted to go to trial. I was found not guilty in 15 minutes. The jury AND the judge met me in the hallway afterwards and apologized for what I went through. You see I was put behind bars in a holding sell for 11 hours as they were about to process me to go to Riker's Island. I lost my job and my pension EVEN though I was innocent. I sued and though it took 7 years I settled for $1/4M. That might seem like a lot but my career was ruined and I had to start all over again. When I shared my story with law students, I always said that it would have been much worse if I were black. Also, the detective stated that I was arrested because of a new initiative by of all people the then mayor, the now disbarred Rudy G. I would not wish my story or this one on my worst enemy. The detective in my case was not reprimanded and retired with a full pension.

    • @davidjamal378
      @davidjamal378 Před 9 měsíci +1

      This is horrible and don't ever stop telling your story. I relate and understand... I myself have suffered at the hands of bad police. The worst part is when you get a bad judge who sides with the police no matter how many lies they get caught in... Take care

    • @moniques9127
      @moniques9127 Před 9 měsíci

      Omg. Sorry that happened to you.

  • @beckygibney3762
    @beckygibney3762 Před 10 měsíci +46

    Wouldn’t they check her GPS first?! That would’ve been solved in 4 hrs! Also, pleading guilty should not get you out of the death penalty

    • @moniqueloomis9772
      @moniqueloomis9772 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I concur.

    • @jimwerther
      @jimwerther Před 10 měsíci +1

      Then he wouldn't have pled guilty. Duh.

    • @beckygibney3762
      @beckygibney3762 Před 10 měsíci +1

      They don’t need a guilty plea though cuz they have plenty of evidence. I’ll have to ask a policeman why they do that. (Probably to save court costs, ugh)

    • @aurorefrench7592
      @aurorefrench7592 Před 7 měsíci

      @@beckygibney3762 to save cost and avoid the pain of going through a trial for the victim's family.

  • @bluewaves_8
    @bluewaves_8 Před 10 měsíci +12

    At this point, all the cases that O'Connell was involved in should be revisited and reopened. Periods

  • @joyceslusser3148
    @joyceslusser3148 Před 9 měsíci

    You are a blessing to your audience by delivering turns. Thank you and be blessed.

  • @motherofthreeb6337
    @motherofthreeb6337 Před 10 měsíci +7

    He DESTROYED other families and he wants consideration? He should've got more more than two years! 😠

  • @gloriaorth4628
    @gloriaorth4628 Před 10 měsíci +31

    So sad what happened to Heather 😢. Rest in peace dear angel.

  • @964964limkyung
    @964964limkyung Před 10 měsíci +15

    this cop should be more like 10 years not two years jail serve, he's lucky to serve two years , another great video to watch,,,

  • @msjadhav5192
    @msjadhav5192 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Now all the cases of that O'conell need to be reviewed.

  • @pavyohnjohnson688
    @pavyohnjohnson688 Před 9 měsíci +3

    He didn't mess up he did exactly what he planned to those people

  • @NicklePickle426
    @NicklePickle426 Před 10 měsíci +9

    I've known about this case for years, I'm so glad that they covered Keyana's story along with Heather's. They will forever be tied together due to one corrupt cop. Prayers for all of them. 🙏🙏🙏

  • @NatalieFromCA
    @NatalieFromCA Před 10 měsíci +39

    How in the world did it take LE 2 freaking years to go through her phone and social media?! That’s insane! This could have been solved so much faster had her digital footprint been analyzed sooner!!

    • @jimwerther
      @jimwerther Před 10 měsíci +1

      Utterly incomprehensible

    • @ri-goblazt5894
      @ri-goblazt5894 Před 10 měsíci

      It’s because of the racist bad cop. He didn’t bother to look. He was in a hurry to convict innocent people of his own twisted justification. if wasn’t for the reporter who exposed the corruption innocent lives would have been destroyed and the monstrous psychopath would still be out killing more.

    • @charlotteswebbing
      @charlotteswebbing Před 10 měsíci +2

      Her sister hired a PI and pushed the investigation.

    • @charlotteswebbing
      @charlotteswebbing Před 10 měsíci

      @@Crazyman23 She does .I was at her vigil and know for a fact .

    • @charlotteswebbing
      @charlotteswebbing Před 10 měsíci

      @@Crazyman23 That's weird I was literally in her van on the way to Fremont with my sister ,also met her at the mall to buy Justice for Heather signs .She absolutely loved her sister 🙏

  • @fionarose7831
    @fionarose7831 Před 8 měsíci +1

    This sheriff deserves a medal for doing an amazing job and bring the corrupt officer down. Rest in peace to both women.