The Disappearance of Kelly Dwyer | Full Episode
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- A young woman vanished after a night out in Milwaukee in October 2013. Did a meeting set up on a dating app lead to the disappearance or was it someone she knew? "48 Hours" correspondent Peter Van Sant reports. Watch more full episodes of "48 Hours" on Pluto TV.
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Am I the only one who thought it a big red flag that the mother said Chris had his "dream job' with an office in Yankee stadium, but left it to return to Milwaukee to work at the same company as his mother. I wonder what really happened with that "dream job."
Here I thought it was at the company Kelly worked at. That does seem weird.
Interesting point, which is on point with everything else with this dude.
Good point. I wonder if anyone ever says I had a brilliant dream last night, I was working in IT at the Yankee stadium. To which someone replies, dream on, you'll never fly that high
Yes IMMEDIATELY
Something to do with the economic crash? Maybe there was no job any longer.
It’s almost unbearable listening to his mom talk. Ma’am your son is a MONSTER and you’re making excuses for him.
Like Chris Watts mom...
Not as bad as listening to that DA
So is your comment.
@@sengasenga6856 so is your comment what? Spit it out
@@sengasenga6856 I absolutely love being able to look at users past comments.. like yourself. You can always tell who lives an absolutely miserable existence by the negative comments they leave. It’s fascinating. Maybe look into some therapy 😊
This is what happens when you make excuses for your son his entire life; when there are no consequences for his appalling behaviour. Her child is a murderer and she’s still lying for him.
This is so true!!!!
Like Chris Watt's mother
This is what also happens when you dont teach your daughters to make good choices 😊 it takes 2 to tango
@@edwardcashh924 not the time or place, Edward. Not the time nor place.
@@JW-vd4il get over it
I think it's ironic that the defense wants you to believe someone 100% saw this girl in a car at a stop light; yet a canine alerting to a dead body all over his bed, apartment, car, etc...that's inconceivable! 🙄
I hear you.
I think it's great the other girlfriend was so helpful. She really made a difference in the case and the info she had was interesting.
Molly too
Hell hath no fury like…
I found it odd that the 1st young lady called Kelly, an acquaintance after hanging out w. her 2 to 3 times per week.
18:19 His mom is insane … as an IT guy, you are exceptionally aware of the hard drive data storage stuff, there is no way he just took home others hard drive from work without looking into it …
You have never worked in IT, specially some years ago as this happening. For sure, you take the worked to home. Passing data from one hd to another, because you had to have it ready by 8am next day, for example. And on and on.
You have no idea
@@marvinbrando722 you may take work home, but because there might be potentially sensitive information in there, you always review what's in there. Otherwise you risk data breaches, illegal activity, and all kinds of other risks. He worked for a major sports team. He had to be careful with the type of information he handled and how it could affect the major organization he worked for. Imagine if the drive stored malware and he connected it to other data systems in the organization. Data security is a major issue for IT staff. I work for a large university, and every employee is required to be trained on how to handle data responsibly, because security breaches or breaches of the law can cause major problems for the whole university and its vast amount of legally protected confidential information.
Exactly. He was CIO too
I work in IT and I do this all the time lmao
@@Not_Always😂 but not always?
What is it with these toxic mothers that refuse to face the truth about their sons. I’ve seen this in so many cases.
Where is the father to provide some brains and logic and discipline to the thinking and behavior of both the mother and son?
Agreed! Moms seem to be oblivious to how their sons act and they do nothing but make excuses
Face it mom(s) - your sons are awful people and at least part of it is your fault!
@@caligamer5364 it's called mother's love,
@@toochukwuowoh606agree.
Id like to see you when youll become a mother..
He killed her. His mom can cry all she wants, it’s never easy to come to terms with the fact that you’ve raised a murderer. I understand that. But it doesn’t change that he killed this girl.
The interview with mom explains exactly why he turned out the way he did
Absolutely true….mom part of the problem
In half these murders other than crime of passion, once you see the parents it always explains a lot smh
Give Kelly some credit she was smart enough to return to the dude she clearly liked whatever was bringing her back.
Mom probably helped him dispose of the shower curtain and bathroom accessories including the golf bag, possibly even helped him discard of the body. There’s a reason he went directly to his mothers house. Mom. Would know exactly what to do. I hope detectives searched the moms home too.
@@terezobert2101 Opinions vary.
It’s a shame that his mother is still in denial about who her son is. I am glad that Kelly received the justice that she deserved. Rest in peace Kelly. 💗
There is zero actual evidence. None. No DNA, no video, no blood.
It's scary how people can be convicted on nothing.
Scary for you, scary for your kids if and when you have them.
Yup
Had I been on that jury, I would've voted "not guilty", for sure. This is what is called "Prosecution by Character Assassination". When the DA has no Hard Evidence, he unearths every salacious detail in the defendant's life to make them look "Bad Enough" to deserve going to prison, whether or not they actually did the deed at hand. And Naive and Gullible Jurors fall for it quite often. All the claims that he was a "strangler" since age 16 are Pure BS because no charges were ever filed on ANY of them. This trial didn't bring Justice for Kelly. It was more like Urinating on Kelly's Grave. As usual, the Cops framed the "obvious suspect" so that they could hurry up to go eat more Doughnuts, an activity even more important to a Cop than putting the right people in prison.
@@ArtCurator2020 wow well we’re all sure glad you weren’t a juror, now aren’t we ?
@@ArtCurator2020good thing you weren’t 😂
He was “devastated” that he got caught. It’s unfortunate that his mother is in denial after all the circumstantial evidence presented in the court. The case was closed shut for me when they said she never came out of the apartment and the hits the dog got all over the apartment.
Bang on. That's the only reason and surely that weird mom of his deep down knows that.
mother stands for comfort
The smug smile on his mother’s face the whole time almost makes her less tolerable than him.
Are people missing the fact that she was captured walking into his apartment but never walking out? Why are his lawyers acting like this footage exists?
I was just scanning the comments to see if anyone noticed that she was never seen exiting the building. I was surprised there was no mention of that right away
That’s the job of a DEFENSE lawyer
That was obvious, it was said in the video, but usually you would leave the same way as you came, as soon as they said there was no evidence of her leaving that way, i thought to myself, he's guilty.
It's their job
His apartment to elevator to the garage? Didn’t they say that the cameras were malfunctioning when he put the golf bag with her body in the trunk? Why couldn’t they have malfunctioned when she was walking through the garage? Not saying that’s how it happened I think he’s guilty but if the prosecutors can use “cameras malfunctioning” to explain the lack of him with the golf bag couldn’t they have malfunctioned when she was walking through? 🤷♀️
He’s a narc and mom’s golden child. She’ll never accept that her charming little man-child would do something awful.
Exactly!! That's why he is how he is.
@k s I married one
@@renaissance5300 I'm so sorry you are currently dealing with that. I dealt with one for 4yrs and barely made it out alive. Being with a narcissist is the most exhausting thing ever! I wish you the best, just know that you deserve happiness. I don't know your situation, but I feel for you, and I wish you much success in life.
Yep.. liers are good at play games...
@@saraa1741 me 24 years...put up with lies from day one..lost my life almost..
That urge she had to leave, The gift of fear
Intuition.
I love the voice of the prosecutor lady, and her look.
@totis1777. Yes, very sexy
Her voice sounds like the actress, Ann Hesh.
That mother helped her “little boy”, she’s cold. These defense lawyers just stop, stop you’re embarrassing yourself. The girlfriend gave away some telling evidence, I’m glad she didn’t lie for him. The police, prosecutors and dog did an awesome job. Thank you 👍🏽👏🏽
Yeah those defense attorneys were honestly laughable. So embarrassing.
Yes, I was surprised that this time the gf was honest and told it like it was. Good job. She probably saved her own life.
The dog is a hero! 🥺
S/o to the dog
I have three sons that I would defend with my life unless god forbid they committed a crime. Then I would grab them by their ear and drag them into the police station myself.
I went to HS with her. We took one class together - American History. I was absolutely horrified when I learned of the news many years ago. May her parents have found peace to live each day without her.
🙏🏽
Yes..he was not trusting and believing him was her mistake.
OMG Gigi, you haven’t aged one bit, hope your doing well.
It's so sad .😞
@@rubey2649 high school reunion here, bitter sweet
Mother says: I do believe him, and then her eye contact goes down.... a mother knows her son like nobody, and it's disgusting her defending him
I noticed that business with the eyes dropping too.
Too bad the friend didn't warn her about her bad feeling she had. . I can't get over that part..
Sorry to say… but… with a woman as desperate as Kelly to be in a relationship with a man… Kelly would NOT have taken heed to her best girlfriend’s words… Even after being choked & restrained by him in a sexual encounter…. She would not have listened…
What would she warn her about? She didn't know why she had the bad feeling. Remember when she said Kelly's boyfriend came out on the balcony with her. Before she even told the interviewer she had a bad feeling, I was already wondering why he came out on balcony with his lady's friend, leaving his girlfriend inside by herself. He could have been a creep and that was the bad feeling she got.
One of these nonsense comments in every single video. What was she supposed to say? In what world would Kelly have listened anyway? She kept coming back to a guy who used her and apparently had her in dangerous situations. I've had friends like that. The terrible boyfriend will always supersede their friends and family.
there was something really off with that friend. very off.
@@clmhK5Maybe he was thinking of throwing her off the balcony
I love how much the defense hangs their argument on “there’s no DNA evidence, there’s no eye witness”. How do people think crimes were solved back BEFORE DNA, video surveillance, gps? Leg work, deduction, intuition.
Yeah, they’re like “pics or it didn’t happen.” RIDICULOUS 🙄
Right!
They didn't even believe the dog. They were embarrassing.
With...evidence, which seemed to be severely lacking in this case.
@@tinahochstetler2189 You can't cross examine a dog. I don't know why that is even permissible as evidence.
The "boyfriend" isn't the choir boy his mom thinks he is. RIP Kelly.
She has no comment on her son’s long term girlfriend, or the fact he was two timing two or more women.
Right?? I can see her standing by him thru cheating, but to say "oh he's in IT, that's why he had CP on that hard drive.... they collect stuff! " omg give me a break.
And Kelly was not an innocent little flower that had yet to have her petals fondled!
Un Malo:How irrele is that? She did not deserve to die. What exactly is your point.???? What do pedals have to do with anything? Fondled or Not. Are you kidding me?
She definitely didn't deserve to have her petals fondled by asphyxiation boy
Molly is great. Dogs are amazing. Love them❤
The type of denial and blind trust his mother has in her son really shows how he ended up this way
That mother was making every excuse up for her son. It’s obviously the way she raised him is how he came out to be. R.I.P to the young lady!! 😢
The hard drive thing is actually pretty plausible. People buy hard drives all the time used, as they are expensive. Now we have the clouds
Indeed!!
@@willnill7946 I hear you.. Humans are however very curious beings and would watch what ever is on there or wipe it clean. a Healthy person won't keep such disgusting things.
Exactly.
@Dee Angi Facts! You ain’t lie about that. And he was soo conceited he thought he had all his basics covered. Turning off his cellphone being untraceable and all. He’s exactly where he belongs.
That prosecutor is
A spit fire 🙌 love her and so happy she was on Kelly’s case- well done!
Fly high Kelly!❤
You don't want to tangle with Catwoman.
He should be in jail for life for the child ponography alone. I say keep him in jail so he doesnt hurt anyone else.
100%
Stories like these are one of the main reasons I didn’t party as a kid and don’t frequent bars and parties as an adult. Too many sick people out there and anyone can become a victim. It’s so freaking sad.
Exactly....
That's nice. Nowadays, you can get mowed down at the grocery store, the movie theater, school... Life is random man
@@stacyjaye6350 I’m more afraid of sexual assault than I am to get shot and die. Call me crazy but it is what it is.
I hope it's a nice lonely basement you live in.
@@hughjaanus6680 Because I don’t goto party’s and bars I must be lonely and living in a basement? 😂😂 are you projecting? I’m sorry if your life sucks. I hope it gets better.
The mothers not in denial! She's an enabler.. she's never given him consequences for his actions as she makes excuses for him! Even a mother knows! This mother knows what he did and still sits and shows no remorse and sits like her son does no wrong! But she knows what he did!
Enabler:; I agree more😢
The quintessential " he's a good boy " that lots of mothers hold to re; nefarious bad boys
Enablers are often in denial. Anyway I don’t hate the mom for honoring natural bonds of humanity. I resent him for failing to.
What you described is denial
It’s sad how the mom of a killer shows no remorse that’s why her son does what he wants because of mothers like her who don’t raise there children to take accountability
And I'm sure the child p0rn that was found in his apartment wasn't his either. Mommy Dearest is in total denial.
@@Janadu Yep. Mom said he didn't know it was there lol
An IT guy? Doubt that
Mothers, in general, don't raise their sons "right" in this country. They perpetuate the toxic masculinity. Mother's should be the ones doing the most to raise their boys to respect women and how to treat them. But they don't. Boy's have to leave Mommy's home in order to learn how to be men.
Yea I agree. These mommies w issues idealizing their sons.
The same way the defense team makes excuses for him.
Sick stuff.
She showed remorse... for her son, the killer. Gosh, wonder where he got his sense of entitlement..?🤔
I couldn’t imagine being a defense attorney…..knowing that probably 75% or more of the time you are defending a guilty person in cases like this one.
This case is so disturbing. I can’t imagine how awful it must have been for Kelly. I hope her mother and friends have found some comfort. Knowing that her murderer was the “man” she thought she was in love with.
Mom: my sweet boy can do no wrong. I believe it's that kind of attitude that creates a psychopath.
🎯
Just like Chris Watts mom…
Sorry to disappoint, but Zocco isn't a psychopath. Wanna offer an alternative armchair diagnosis? 🙄
@@religiohominilupus5259 yep . Is there such a diagnosis as mummy's boy, that can do no wrong. So goes through life doing what he wants????
sweet child o mine
Whelp, time to delete my dating apps again. I’d rather be alone forever than murdered.
I would stay off or don’t use any of those dating apps it’s not worth it i meet people through mutual friends or friend of a friend or social functions something that’s safer I don’t know why people use online dating to begin with also people have to be careful on instagram
Smart move. He has Psycho written across his face and he's not alone
Kelly met him by a mutual friend.
You just made me laugh, but you are quite right.
She didn´t meet him through an app.
His mother is unbelievable, wow an excuse for every single thing he did ! What a sad shame
Rest in peace Kelly.💔
Zocco's mother should be ashamed of herself. Zoccos defence lawyers are ridiculous.Good girl Molly🎯
i actually thought that the killer's mother was his defense attorney up until they got to the point about him visiting *her* house. it's insane how much denial she's in. it shows how he got to the point where he felt like he could do something like this and get away with it. RIP Kelly 🕊️🤍
Me too lol
Yep. It always starts in childhood. She's in total denial.
Son is a sexual predator. She has more concern for his sentence than the young woman's death. Sad!!
Me too.
She appears to be the one he inherited his killer genes from.
I cant believe Zocco found 2 girls to ever sleep with him at all, let alone 2 at the same time. Both girls cold have done a lot better. And his mom.......total denial.
Different strokes for different folks.
Money bad boy and cocaine attracts many women. Nice guys, um well and average income. You’ll be waiting alone for a text.
😂😂😂
Yes two very insecure woman!
Everyone is in denial that there'd no evidence of him moving any body lol. But he is a child predator.
The Fact the defense tried to argue that there’s no “Evidence “ is WILD‼️
The defense’s “witness” 😂😂😂
That made me feel sad
They got him a hot breakfast at Mcdonalds for that testimony...
Sidenote: It's so strange that her friend who she went out with a few times a week would describe her as "an acquaintance".
If that's an acquaintance, then most of us don't have friends.
I was thinking the same thing when she said that!
Why she didn't let her know about her sense something was wrong. But because she was only "an acquaintance " so selfish
That bothered me so much, I felt like her yoga teacher was a better friend than that acquaintance...she is a very cold person. I can see her referring to her children as her offspring.
@@roxanaescobar5645 Right??
@@roxanaescobar5645 she probably led Kelly to the killer 😢
It’s really disgusting when defense attorneys go to this length to avoid prosecution of a clearly dangerous psychopathic killer.
Defense attorneys have no soul.
They have the right to a lawyer just like you have so everybody can have a fair trial.
Sounds like she snorted up a bunch of his cocaine, and didn’t want to “pay” for it. Yeah, that’s a shame.
@@sirvilhelmofyonderland thats not what it sounds like. thats stupid.
@@ScreamingEagleFTW cocain users use that tactic. It’s very possible,
I don't know who Kelly Dwyer was but of this I am certain, this world lost another beautiful smile. 😢
I hate to say it, but Kelly did not respect herself enough as she allowed this man to use her when she wanted more from this relationship. And this is said assuming that she did not know what a horrible dirtbag he is! But she must have seen hints of his immortality. This is a perfect cautionary tale for younger women to respect themselves. The friend who was invited back to his place after the bar closed felt the evil and she left. Wish Kelly had this discernment. Very sad case.
I'm glad they found him guilty. There is definitely enough circumstantial evidence against him. The prosecution did an excellent job trying this case. Rip Kelly
Something feels off with Chris’ mom. Just me?
Preposterous statement sir
Well noticed, exceptional work
i hate when the parents of a killer cry about their child going to jail. like at least ur child is still alive the person ur offspring killed is not.
So he fled Boston and New York and ended up in Milwaukee??? He was running from something?!
The yoga dude with his foot wrapped around his neck 😂
I have followed this case all along.
This guy did this and don't think it hasn't happened again.
There are a crap ton of lunatics out there.
Stay the heck away from those dating websites, too!
...Unless you have a way to know for sure that the person you are meeting is NOT in another relationship, or is NOT in the middle of a psychotic break.
Mental health problems are rampant, especially these days.
It said that they met through a mutual friend. They didn’t meet online.
@@msalicat1 I know, but she was also dating a lot and was so busy enjoying herself that you can't tell me she wasn't looking for a "really good guy"...
He was a wolf in sheep's clothing.
At that age, it is so easy to just look at the wrapper and assume that the junk food inside is healthy for you.
... ya know what I mean..?
Also, I slightly edited my comment.
This beautiful soul didn't deserve anything bad to happen to her.
She seemed to just want to be able to enjoy life.
Every time I read a case like this I cuddle a little closer with my cat.
The red light for me is the cocaine. So played down by all but in my experience, bad thoughts and deeds are so easy to do when indulging in the white stuff. If you are already a narcissist it will certainly enhance an already incomparable ego. The marujana is always emphasised in these investigations, but unless it is the rubbish sprinkled with who knows what chemicals, I would challenge anyone to say they were in a mental and physical state to be evil after a few puffs. His interest in evil was enhanced by cocaine and hey presto!
I'm really surprised these website's haven't been shut down given all the criminal behavior. Let's get back to meeting in church with friendly faces or meeting through family's ect.. Nothing's perfect but it's got to be better than this. These websites are definitely too secretive!
His lawyers hired a homeless black man in a wheelchair to say he saw her with someone else. What a joke
Online dating is super creepy
The mother is delusional, but I get that! No one thinks their own child could be a monster!
RIP Kelly! You didn't deserve this!
Rite so easy to make someone a monster and lie on them
There are parents, both mothers & fathers, who are honest & rational enough to see the truth & turn them in.
But she is a monster herself, you can see she is lying when replying to some of the questions.
@@nillyk5671 Yeah...she was very cringe to watch...I had to skip through most of her talking LOL
My focus was on his mother too. She knew from day one that her son did it.
I find it telling that when they got to his apartment building, he kept walking quickly ahead of her. It gives me chills. RIP Kelly
Sounds like she snorted up a bunch of his cocaine, and didn’t want to “pay” for it. Yeah, that’s a shame.
@@sirvilhelmofyonderland That is a sick comment. There's is no way of knowing what she did in that apartment that night, except what Chris stated that he liked to do cocaine and have sex. He used the drugs to pull off his perverse sexual fantasies! The feeling of pain or fear are diminished by drugs, allowing his dangerous behavior.
Yeah, that shows true guilt.🤪
I noticed that, too. His distance correlates with his attitude that the relationship was really casual. Walking ahead and leaving your date behind is not typically what you do with a date, especially when you're bringing them back to your place and you're the host.
Confirmation bias. You all see some guy “walking ahead” but fail to notice him opening doors for her and pushing elevator buttons. Or that they’re engaged in conversation the entire time.
His mother will always be in denial. How many times do we hear, "Not my son, not my child"?
nah im like 6 minutes in and it was definitely the yoga teacher. what a caricature lmao
The defense paid a homeless guy to say he saw her. They are dead inside and insufferable at best. Watching their cold empty eyes as they plead his case made me ill. Special place for those people. His mom is awful as well. Sad story.
Agree 👍 sickening .
Unfortunately that's their job. Like it or not
Their job is not to pay witnesses which I am pretty sure they did here. They just dragged that poor old man off the streets!
The footage of them walking into his place is haunting. It seems innocent at first. She's bubbly, and chatty, and looking forward to a fun night. Watching it back he seems to be in a hurry to get back (walking out in front of her) and get started with his depravity. Sick and sad...
haunting. he did seem to be rushing
Sometimes dumb women fall for what men have, security, He was a provider in everything he had. Mostly women are seeking these kind of men. Then she plays along with the bad stuff he was doing and she fell into his trap. Rip Kelly
@@vanessa12342able exactly.
@@vanessa12342able It happens too many times........ I can't wait till I hear stories where the woman turns the tables on her attacker. I cannot listen to a whole show of these because it's too sad and gross.
@@vanessa12342able so true.... Be careful folks.. set boundaries for yourself and whau you'll allow. Stick to it. Not blaming Kelly at all. Just touched because I see a lot of my young single self in her
Who else is here after watching every single Forensic Files episode 17 times?
Thanks to all of you who posted what happened, I always pop in to look at the comments 1st because I can't do the ones that are not solved. The second I saw she got justice I stopped reading but I do appreciate it!
I am additcted to watching these but i cant bring myself to spoil it so i dont read anything. The ones that dont get solved are gut wrenching
It's sad that the only person who participated in this FOR Kelly was a woman who self-identified as an "acquaintance", not even a friend.
ETA: and her Yoga dude.
I just started watching & instantly as soon as her “acquaintance” introduced herself that way and then began speaking I immediately found it odd. If I’m hanging out with someone multiple times a week to “touch base” or whatever you wanna call it, we’re close friends. Period. I don’t even get to see my actual best friend that much now that adult lives include families and long work hours. She just seemed cold stating their *friendship* that way imo. I’m already sad to see your comment stating she’s the only one that even participated 😢 I have to agree with you, that is very unfortunate & kind of heartbreaking honestly
Don't forget Mr. Fabulous yoga instructor! He couldn't wait to get his 15 minutes! I couldn't help but laugh when they showed him doing poses. I could almost hear it...Them: "ok, thank you Mr. Yoga man, that's a wrap." Him: "If you want, I could do a few poses for your B-Roll!" Them: "Whatever...Make it quick."🤣
I agree, I was wondering where her family was. But, it made me think that, sadly, that is why she got into this situation.
@@wingolamo 😂 lol
That's true where is the family.I hope others cared I do!
Mommy doesn't get that her sweet boy is a MONSTER!
I guarantee you that Mommy dearest has defended her son for his behavior in the past as well
“To conduct a sniff”😂 I’ve never heard this specialist phrase before… What a clever pup Molly is. The animals that live life beside us are true assets!
She was kind hearted, loving, caring almost an angel, but did all kinda drugs, dated multiple men at the same time
you can be caring, kind hearted and do drugs, date multiple men if you are single.
I am a mother of three. I know pretty much anybody is capable of anything. If I truly suspected my child of killing someone, I would not hide them or shield them. I would turn them in. Would I support them while justice is exacted? Yes. Would I still love them? Probably. If it was something truly horrific, especially hurting a child in any form, I do not know what my feelings would be. I can only imagine how my reactions in this type of situation would be because I've never been through it, but I hope nothing like this ever happens to my family. I think it takes a level of mental illness to commit any crime that irrevocably hurts someone or causes a loss of life, so I would want my child to do serve their time and get mental help. That's what being a parent is... wanting the best for your child, helping them find their way, helping them become healthier. Sometimes becoming healthier hurts. It sucks. But as a parent, I know it would not *help* my child to keep a secret about them committing a crime.
Let us know when you have to make that choice.
@@pamelamorris3148 hahahaha
I wouldn't either. I will turn not a blind eyes I will turn my child in. Evil is evil. There is no short cut.
I’ll turn anyone in because my government god comes first. All hail our master and lord ZOG!
@@Spooky_515 snitches get stitches and get posted on 48 hours in ditches.
Love that we get full episodes on here.
if a man loves a woman, he won’t leave bruises on her.
His mother is so deep in denial, I thought I was watching National Geographic.
Video never lies, seen going into room, never seen coming out.
Exactly
but not seen coming out dead either...you can't have it both ways
dead people don't walk
I remember this story. Poor girl didn’t deserve that.
Nobody does.
She went back for more sounds like she enjoyed it.
@@centertonarkansastyrantpatrol You seem to repeat yourself alot. That's th 4th time you made the same comment victim blamer!
@@nobullplease23 Should I do it a 5th?
I dated a guy kinda like him when I was younger with a mom that believed her sons could do no wrong. I do believe I dodged a bullet on that one when we broke up. I learned he died of a drug overdose in his mid-30’s.
"it's a cheese place", how sweet he said it ❣️
I love the victim blaming attempted by the defence. 'She was on DATING sites! Anyone could have killed her! She dated *multiple* men. This was always going to end badly.' As if all dating sites are full of predators, and women are asking for it if they use online dating platforms... meanwhile, the defendant IS a predator, using all these platforms.. sleeping with multiple women.. but he's innocent? Which is it? The attempts to smear her character for enjoying her sexuality is absolutely disgusting. These guys really do want women to stay at home and marry their 1st cousin.
Casual hooks ups are always going to have an element of risk. Accept it.
If you’re on dating apps, you’re desperate. Face it
@@jerseytomato100 ooky dookie
Oh please,that's not exploring your sexuality,stop the BS
Why are you saying victim blaming ? These are facts , not net opinions . Do you know the difference.
For every person with an IQ of 120 there is an IQ of 80.
That mother is for sure covering up important pieces of evidence from the police, she knows what her son did. If he took the sport equipment to her house, he probably took the golf bag, but disposed of it later on. I have no doubt he killed Kelly, it’s clear as day for me. Rip, young lady 😢
and many men say that mothers love....
The mum Is in so much denial, horrible to see her sat there smiling 🤦🏻♀️ so rude of her
One major flaw in the defense’s theory that she met her fate in the company of another man is the evidence of her phone going dead forever just moments after Kris exited the parking garage in his car. He then returns a short time later. This is highly suspicious of him disposing of her phone.
She would have needed her phone to meet up with her dates so it would have shown activity after the night she spent with Kris but it didn’t. She never met anyone else because she never left that apartment alive.
I know circumstantial cases are hard for some people to accept but what you have to understand is that it’s not about one piece of circumstantial evidence or another piece of circumstantial evidence-it’s the totality of it when looking at the whole picture. The likelihood of all of that circumstantial evidence pointing to anything or anyone other than Kris being responsible is impossible and that’s what pushes a case like this into the place of guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. It’s not reasonable that all that circumstantial evidence is just a coincidence. The jury got it right.
Unfortunately the mom is either in denial or she’s an accomplice and helped him dispose of evidence.
How is it that not one of her coworkers, yoga friends, family members came on to speak for her. Instead we get a fame-hungry yoga teacher and a bar “acquaintance” who provide little detail on what she was like as a person. Seriously not even ONE person could come on who actually knew her?
There is a reason for this. I won’t elaborate on it
U gonna write a book?
@@enigmaticbeing7796 Kelly’s relatives embarrassed of what had been revealed about her life. That why they did not participate in the documentary. Be as it is her family deserves some privacy and respect.
@@johgndavis8159 are you a relative
Maybe they weren’t interested, knowing the nasty comments that are left by many.
My deepest sympathies to Kelly’s family.
Why do you have sympathy to a girl who was acting like a prostitute
Nothing can be hidden under the sun.
Loved this episode
I'm glad they found her. At least they know what happened to her.
Or do they? There's no evidence of a body in his possession
@@centertonarkansastyrantpatrol She never left his apartment building, never seen walking out on camera.
@@hellzbellz79.1 well that is more believable than other stuff I've heard
@@hellzbellz79.1 didn't they say cameras were only in certain places? That is more reliable than what they said when they said they never saw a body leave but also makes me wonder what parts didn't have cameras to where they'd think maybe she left. I do believe maybe he killed her by accident in sex but he sure didn't act like it if he went and hid the body. The whole story is really confusing because she always came back to him.
@@centertonarkansastyrantpatrol Whether she returned to seeing him or not is not in question. Drug use (cocaine) has a way of affecting one's perception of an event masking pain or fear of a dangerous or scarey situation. Sometimes there is a limited memory of detail. What is sick is that Chris filmed Kelley in a the course of the sex act, and her lying there in an unconscious state having trouble breathing. That is sick. Unfortunately it has been proven that many women return to partners who are physically abusive and end up dead.
I like how the defense attorneys are like 'yes we believe this random old man that he saw her when she was still alive at a stoplight but not the cop talking about her dog alerting to decomposing remains in suspect's apt'
Some old homeless drunkard they dragged up off the street, gave him something to eat at KFC and ask him to appear in court to help them win the case. But it didn't work.
Lawyers are paid liars, aren’t they?
That old man as a witness.... was hilarious/ridiculous! LOL!
They were trying so hard 😂 But then again that was their job
I bet the mom paid off the old man. "Half now and half after the trial." They had the money.
28 cameras but they can't find him on any of them moving the body???... A grainy out of focus pic, you're able to say that you see a spec of silver so that's the travel bag? I feel they got this one wrong. A lot of circumstantial evidence but nothing concrete to pin him to this crime. Imo. They reached far for this one. Just to say they solved a case.
That “friend” with the sixth sense. WOW JUST WOW She got herself out but didn’t think about leaving and maybe getting her some help. I wonder how she sleeps at night?🤔
She’s not a friend, but an acquaintance. WTF why would she hang out with an acquaintance several times a week?’v
Dating apps aren’t the problem, violent men are
Not only Man. You have tunnel vision.
Doing drugs with a man and not protecting yourself is the problem she clearly left self-respect and self-esteem
I see your point, but there was no evidence that he was violent person other than the rough sex that they were both clearly enjoying.
@@MrPickledede you dont think him killing her is a problem... Why is your head missing that. Do you have trouble acknowledging that? Why?
They really should film cadaver dogs every time they are deployed with their handlers alongside law enforcement for solid proof instead of relying solely on verbal testimony about what the dog alerted on. We don't want Molly's hard work to go to waste. Hope Kelly's family and Zocco's mother are doing ok.
Yes, because otherwise you get an innocent man in prison, like SACO!
They do. :)
@@unmalo2768 did you just say he's innocent? Lol
are we going to lock up people based on what cadaver dogs did and did not ????
@@hlaback They did not in this case. But I agree with the OP, they should have. There shouldn't be anything to hide and leave unnecessary doubt or suspicion.
This mom needs to accept her son is a sick individual..
The apple does not fall far from the tree… 😢
Kelly was too naive for her own good. It's tragic that so many people just don't "get it" how dangerous it is out there. There are nefarious people lurking around every corner.
BE AWARE of the dangers, and don't put yourself in harm's way ever.
She was murdered by the person she was with last. She got into his place and never got out. I mean...
But it seems like these dating sites are the open portal to danger and they do not really screen people there. I would tell my daughter not to bother with these things and just meet people through other people.
Pretty sure she never met the guy who killed her online, she was out with people she knew that night with him
#VictimBlaming
She was dating this guy for over a year.... I'd say he had earned her trust at that point. Why wouldn't she trust him?
This episode reminds me of the horror of ending up as a subject on 48 HRS. KELLEY DWYER should serve as a warning to young women of the risks of becoming a victim of these online creeps.
I gotta be honest with my feelings. His mother looks like something out of this world.
His mother is despicable. Doesn’t matter that he’s her son. He’s a true monster and she still makes excuses.
We don’t know ANYONE period. Ppl are full of secrets. I don’t date anyone anymore. I have peace of mind.
@laraoneal7284. Agree wholeheartedly. You see what people allow you to see
How do these defense attorneys sleep at night in THIS case 🤬
Welll they get $ so they don’t care
I never go on dating sites or go out with anyone from the internet. I have a very strong sense that is a dangerous thing to do with all the psychopaths out there.
All I’m thinking is what’s the point of killing when ur eventually going to get caught
That mom is delusional and it does disgust me when mothers defend their children in this way. She could at least say, he’s wrong but I still love him.
She should be devastated and crying and apologizing for his actions
Correct!!
I don’t understand how mothers like that will do absolutely anything to defend or justify their narcissistic abusive sons.
The dating world is vicious! Stay safe out there ladies!
Man or woman be safe.
why men in the comments say moms love and mom should support his killer son ????@@richardkronberg4925
When her friend Chanel describes getting an eerie feeling in Kellys boyfriends apartment and "just had to leave" I got chills.
I"ve had that feeling before and I know it saved me from something really bad. Because I went with it and left.
I live in Milwaukee & I have a close friend who advocates to find these people including Alexis Patterson who also went missing here. It’s so sad!