The Murder of Haley Anderson | Full Episode
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- A college student goes missing -- the “Find My Friends” app leads to her body as her suspected killer flees the country. Will he get away with murder? CBS News contributor Maria Elena Salinas reports. Watch more full episodes of "48 Hours" on Pluto TV.
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Believe me, 30 years in a Nicaraguan or any other south- of -the -border jail, is like 60 elsewhere.
I believe he was truly jealous of her and envi d everything about her. Doreen Jones
So many commercials!!
@@doreenkucek3508 ...I think that you have to consider that he's probably both Catholic and Latino and what that means. If she broke up with him then she didn't just "break his heart". She took his manhood, in the eyes of his family and friends.
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Those girls freaking tracked her phone and broke in to find her.... may we all be blessed with such excellent friends ❤️ Rip poor young woman
Excellent friends would surely do all they could to keep you alive. Anyone could find your body. 🤷♂️
Right. they're awesome
Those are true friends who have your back 💯%
I thought the same...why couldn't cops do that.
they were great friends, i haven´t even got one . i wish i had at least one of them as a friend.
If your ex slashes your tires, displays violent behaviors, stalks you, etc..press charges, speak up, run. Do not let them back in.
Exactly
And when they threaten to off themselves let them. Better them then you. 🤷♀️💁♂️
This is so true! I moved far away to deter an abusive, hyper controlling ex. He still tried. Even 10 years after I moved away, he was still trying occasionally. It was a smart move to at least put geographic distance from him in place.
Facts! Been through barely survived it and I left. Never give a 2nd chance to someone your gut warns you about. It is not worth your life.
You're so right she didn't sound very upset when she saw what he had done either!
It’s so crazy to me that his friends are still defending him after he admitted. The way they say “it’s so sad to see my friend in jail”. I’m sure it’s a ton more devastating for the victims family is a lot more torn having to only see her grave.
Yup. His friends are subhuman
His friends are deluded
Yeah they suck.
What foolishness are you upto?
She wanted to be a loose woman. These are the consequences
Even if he was insane at the time of the killing, he was perfectly sane when he bandaged his head and packed his bags, and left her body there to rot.
Depends on your definition of 'insane'.
Everyone is capable of killing, including you.
The way you put 'left her body there to rot' is also telling. Its never good, is it? Some killers try to hide the body and do all sorts of things to it, that desecrate the body.
This guy didnt and then you state 'left her to rot'. So what else should he have done? You do realize that a corpse WILL start to rot very soon, right?
@@StofStuiver why even comment ? You know what they meant.
Argue that in court A+ CZcams defense council 🙄
You’re doing a good job 👍
And wrote a letter. Come on with the nonsense bruh. You are guilty. Man up
@@StofStuiver he could've gone to the police and say "i dont know what happened i woke up this morning and my friend was dead" instead of trying to khmself or FLEEING THE COUNTRY. He is guilty, and not insane, he KNOWS what he did and KNEW what he was doing.
@@fazmarsffect7108 I wasnt saying he wasnt guilty.
I was pointing out that people generally have little to no clue what they are saying.
You cannot argue that someone is a psychopath AND say that he is sane.
His friends literally made me feel sick to my stomach. I don’t care HOW good of a friend you are to me, or even if you’re my family member…if you take someone’s life like this, I’m not going to sit there and say you’re “innocent” and a “good person”
Exactly.
Right?? Unbelievable.
I agree. I can’t figure out if they are naive, stupid or equally as psychopathic. After all, birds of a feather flock together right?
@@carolinehoward180 half of me said 👍🏻the other half of me just felt bad about how betrayed they will feel when it sinks in. Unfortunately it takes a while before maturity to sink in and realize the bullet they all dodged themselves.
Lesson learned don't sleep around
It’s strange how much trust people put in believing that someone who is a “ Good Student” means that they are a good person.
It’s different in Nicaragua, it’s a very rough and dangerous place over there. He was probably an angel compared to everyone else they’ve seen on the streets
Like that guy who killed those four college students. Dude was getting his phd
yes that doesnt make sense ..
They are just summarising his character for the viewer. Good student, big drinker, enjoyed women how would you summarise?
Agree but same with singers who are famous, look at R Kelly..... and many more....Just because the music might be great doesn't mean the one who made the music is a good person
I love that his attempt of running away from crimes got him the biggest sentence.
Im pretty sure money changed hands...
The US is a criminal empire.
Fleeing to Nicaragua to avoid US prison: 😁
Ending up in Nicaraguan prison: 😮
@@17thknightwhen you’re Nicaraguan it’s probably way more freedom and much better than American prison
You have to have respect for that court. With regards to his lawyer - if he wanted the lighter sentence from the US, then he shouldn't have fled.
As a Nicaraguan trust me you don’t want to go to jail in Nicaragua if you understand the system you will regret every minute of your life
It makes me angry when that murdering monster is defended by his friends. My heart goes out to Haley's family. So brave. So strong ❤
Oh come on fool! Ho paid the price …chill ! poor guy is the victim
She wasn't brave. She paid a horrible price for being too trusting and too forgiving, thinking we can all be buddy-buddy. It's funny, because the mom wants more laws and to have the warning signs be taken more seriously as a preventative measure, yet her closing statement was it's a good thing to trust people. Sometimes people let their emotions get the better of them, and we should hold people accountable for those actions. Clearly he was very charming. But to turn a blind eye to having your tires slashed...well, what exactly do you advocate for?
@brandoncain5864 "Hayley's FAMILY. So brave. So strong." You've gone off on a tangent
& who hurt you ?! Trust nobody. Everybody is evil.
Whatever dude 😆
@@bjh7924 Yeah, okay, my bad; I glossed over that one.
his mother covered for him as well!
He was grinning and acting cool during the court case. He really thought he was going free. It's great to see that smirk wiped off his face when he heard the outcome. RIP Hailey
I’m glad the judge didn’t buy it. I really believe she felt that she needed to protect her country from this killer and gave him the maximum. Knowing damn well that if she see him free he would have killed again. Bravo to this judge. Glad they appointed a female judge
Exactly. He was a young & troubled kid. I thought it shocking, that he looked arrogant in court, which was very very stupid of him, since the judge could easily see that he displayed ZERO remorse. (At least in the film clips.). The judge was wise to protect other women from him. Thirty years is a long long time in prison. I hope he learns a lot about compassion & humility while he’s there.
Nicaraguan judge seems understand mind of murderer better than judges in here US. It could be more heard from dependent side if it was in US court. I’m guessing. Sentencing by Nicaraguan court 30yrs seems fair to me. Top of that condition of Nicaraguan prison being very notorious that it was his dump move to flee to country of his birth when you’re committing crime like that.
@@janetpattison8474 *he wasn't a young and troubled kid. Just a horrible person who got mad because they couldn't own/control another person.
Next time don't ruin the ending for the rest of us
You don’t flee to another country if you’re not guilty. He knows exactly what he did and how.
Right? Days from graduation from rigorous academia and soon-to-be good pay and then he goes to Nicaragua?
Well Said x
I flee to another country all the time
Yep, but that does not mean that he was not broken up by her rejecting him. I am not saying that makes what he did right, but that explains why he did it. Rejection is one of the most hurtful emotions that a person can experience.
@@mylamirdo4955
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Thank you Nicaragua and the Judge for showing such support and respect to our justice system.
The moment of graduation got me into tears. No parent should have to go through that pain. My heart goes out to them
Oh come on fool! Ho paid the price …chill ! poor guy is the victim
@@cv8692is that you, Orlando?
The Nicaraguan judge has my respect and admiration. To Hailey's friends who risked their life to track down their friend, God knows we desperately need more people like you.
Something tells me that spending 30 years in a Nicaraguan prison is A LOT worse than spending 30 years in an American prison. :)
Yes. Even more if you know what the USA has done to their country.
Josie Artin & her other roommate Mishela Topalli.
I would say, it was a luck for he family, he have got a woman as a judge.
@@ChiefsFanInSCyeah forsho 😂💯
I am so impressed by Nicaragua! The citizen who recognized him and reported it, them letting the American defense team be part of his trial, the judge letting her mother speak. I am so full of respect for all of those that helped Hailey, her friends and family get justice. Also 30 yrs in a Nicaraguan prison is way worse than 25- life here in America
*American prosecutors.
Yes I agree 💯 and may Haley Anderson RIP 💐
@@sdmsdm7926 Did that happen or did you say that COULD happen?
@@theitguy2731 he watches too many movies
@@magnumxlpi well unfortunately it is correct in a lot of these countries...but I doubt they would do that for some young kid who has nothing to offer the rich or government
Holy yup, these are the kinda friends we all need. They tracked her phone and went thru dudes window in pursuit... that's my girls!
I totally agree with you, indeed this is so sad, she definitely didn’t deserve this, no one has the right to take another persons life, this serial killers are so cold hearted. I pray God gives you lots of beautiful days, I’m David Greg originally from Spain Granada, I live in Austin Texas and you ?
Women standing together! Bravo!! I’m so sorry for such a great lost!
Orlando's friends are such airheads. I'm glad that the judge did her job and saw through his bs. Also, seeing Haley's dad receive her diploma absolutely broke my heart. I hope that he is surrounded by love :(
Yeah he probably lied to them. POS
Especially that one airhead. She needs a nice slap in the face to wake her up. She'd probably defend him if he tried to strangle her, too.
Airhead is the right term. My God they are in such denial. 🤦🏽♀️
They’re absolutely delusional. How is he innocent? He confessed, her body was found in his apartment and he immediately fled after she died. Not that hard to surmise
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It amazes me how all of the evidence is right in front of them and yet a friend of someone can still believe in their innocence because of the person “they knew”.
Exactly IQ problems
idem for me. Men still rule the world...
I don't care how deeply I love my friends who are amazing to me... wrong is wrong and there will always be consequences for your actions! They're all disgusting smh
It comes from the image we project on others throughtout our time with them. If you always looked at as a nice friendly person to everyone. That's how they see you and it's hard for them to see you as anything else. Image you find out that one of your parents are a serial killer. you would have a hard time believing it even with overwhelming evidence because that's not how you see them. And it works the same way with people you've come to trust.
It’s a hard pill to swallow. As you said, they are remembering the person they knew.
I can't imagine the hole in her mother's heart, something no parent should ever have to dream of happening to their child. As a father of 2 young teenage boys..I don't think I'd be able to go on if I lost one, or both, I'd be done. Your strength is commendable.
I grew up watching Maria Elena Salinas as a news anchor in Univision. Now I can appreciate her professionalism and great job at reporting this sad case
Yeah. I was pleasantly surprised to see her on 48.
She is not a good narrator.
I knew I knew that lady
“His friend said he was an excellent student” What in the heck does that have to do with anything?! 🥴
My thought exactly!!
You have to understand the culture when someone says excellent student.
It means that person is much brilliant and smart and they trust that person's judgement and mostly think that person can do more right than wrong.
Seriously the guy is a killer and yet they speaks so highly of him. Especially the girls.
I think they just mean that he seemed like a well rounded person and a good person and you just never know with people
The most delusional people ever heard of. They're honestly more delusional than his own parents. Like they're not safe to get behind the wheel with..
My respect and recognition to the Nicaraguan judge that was able to see the whole picture without being intimidated and gave him the punishment he deserved.
True shout out to Nicaragua 🇳🇮 and the fine judges keep up the awesome job and blessing. Please keep that trash in prison if yall can for ever. So he won't cause any more grief to any family members in your country. Stay strong Nicaragua 🇳🇮.
@@BTKKILLER1 even more so, since Nicaragua is anything but a vasall to the States. the legal sysem works excellently. bad decision to return to his home country.
Boy, he will surely regret spending those 30 years in a Nicaraguan jail instead of spending that time in an American jail, where they would’ve given him cable, TV and air conditioning. He’s not gonna get anything other than heat and mosquitoes in that Nicaraguan jail.
Good thing he was prosecuted there. I don't think he would have gotten 30 years if he was tried in the US.
❤
His friends: "He was a good student"... So WHAT?! he's still a murderer.😐
He. Was. Not any more. If is god student. Doesn’t mean. It’s. Good. Person
Orlando looks like he’s about 9 years old, and apparently he’s no smarter than that.
My exact thought😂and wondered what about Haley liked grosssss
Her friends tracked her phone and broke in the window to find her! They're real friends, she was loved.
Yes they are great friends!! I can only imagine how long it would have took for someone to find her body if they didn't do that!!
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How were they able to track her phone?
@@be4202 likely location sevices? circles of friends do those kinds of things now-a-days. apps like find my phone allow you to add friends. when my truck broke down out of state, my wife was able to come directly to me.
@@be4202 if the gf was having issues with bf, it would make sense shed take precaution. hence the friends being on the same page and actually breaking in...as if they already knew.
It's hard for his friends to accept that he got 30 years?!? He took an entire life from Haley and her friends and family. He got a sweet deal if you ask me.
Exactly. He's lucky he didn't get death row or life.
30 years in a Nicaraguan prison is not a sweet deal. Prisons here in the US are bad enough. I can only imagine what lockup in Nicaragua must be like.
@@satinwhip he killed someone so he doesn't really deserve better than what he got. He is still breathing and his family can visit him still so he still gets it better than her and her family.
@@user-vz8ro6df9k Obviously he got what he deserved, still it's not a sweet deal, probably it's more than what he would get in the USA, plus the prisons are way worse there. It's good to see that running away to Nicaragua backfired on him in that way
He should have gotten life without parole!
Absolutely fantastic that this guy fled and got a harsher sentence in a way worse prison!
My son just left for college at Bloomsburg University & i miss him so much even though he comes home every 2 weeks.
Hayley seemed so positive. I wish i was like that. 🙏
His friends are DELUSIONAL!!! They weren’t there. When people are away from home, in a new place with freedoms, they can live double lives… I’ve seen it with my ex husband… it was scary. Before that I would swear up and down he would NEVER do that, or act “that” way… In this case I’m so glad justice prevailed. His friends need to put themselves in Hayley’s place. Btw, did you see his smirk as he was lead out of the court.
He was smiling not smirking. I don't know what for 30ys in jail. 😱
If you recognize that they may not know who he was in America how do you know that they’re delusional? all they know is the person that they knew
He probably told them what he wanted them to know but if they knew him as well as they said they did they might have noticed something not well in Orlando S M H
They are not delusional they are in denial. Life is not as important in poor 3rd world countries like this. It's parent syndrome, a Mother or Father usually will always say oh my son is innocent. Same with his friends and its one of their own against an American. To them he's innocent even if they know he's not.
no literally
I find it disgusting that his female friends are saying he’s innocent even when he admitted he did it! Especially the one that basically blamed Haley for Orlando “loosing his mind” and murdering her. Just disgusting. They all acted like he was some gentleman and just snapped, what about the stalking and the slashed tires? He obviously had no remorse because he’s trying to get out.
Inferior low-lives. Genetic errors. Dangerous folks. Just like Orlando. Reduce their numbers.
Birds of a feather, His friends are 💩💩💩 too! He's just a scumbag who didn't want to take responsibility for his actions.
Male friend too
It totally is. It's totally disgusting
💯💯💯💯💯
Don’t sleep with people you’re not interested in….it makes some people crazy.
❤ Exactly!!!!! Thank you!!!
I hope anyone around Haley's age watching this learns from her. If your ex slashes your car tires or stalks you, don't ever go back them.
Never give a bad person a second chance to hurt you again.
Woman’s worst attribute
Certainly he did a tremendous crime but why nobody talking about her on off relationships it’s crazy what is going on nowadays
Fool me once shame on YOU. Fool me twice shame on ME!
@@mistersquare7327 omg you should be in a mental hospital! Woman hater
@@dysonanspoznawczy7705 what's to talk about? She had made it clear she didn't want anything serious with him.
Yes she was playing with hearts, but that isn't a crime. She was open about the fact she was a free spirit, it was no secret. Her body, her choice.
Am I the only one that got sick to my stomach watching his friends defend him? He confessed in the note, then tried to avoid the consequences of his actions, first with that half-assed suicide attempt then by fleeing the country. And they're still like "he was nice to us and he was a good student (wtf?) so he should be let go". Abusers are evil, but enablers are just as bad. "Denial" isn't a defense when the facts are so damning and overwhelming.
I am so glad I am not the only one who believes enablers are just as bad. The sperm donor of my children beat me every day while pregnant. When I finally got the chance to leave him, I fled from Mississippi to Pennsylvania, where he still found me and jumped from behind a car and attacked me. The neighbors saw what was happening and called the police. He was still beating me when they arrived. His parents, my childrens grandparents defended him in court, saying he was a good person and made a "mistake" he only got four years. To this day, I can't even fathom how his parents saw all my abuse and the photos from the attack and decided he made a "mistake". They are just as bad as him.
@@deannalowman2299 I'm sorry that happened to you. Domestic abuse sentences in this country are a joke in most cases honestly. We have to be grateful we survived as many aren't so fortunate.
My ex always told me his friends *knew* he hit me and were ok with it. I thought that was just gaslighting, but it turns out some *did* know. They also knew that he'd beat his first wife as well (which I didn't find out till I'd left), and gave him a pass for that too. However, most of his friends didn't know, and they cut him off completely when I finally told them.
It's astounding how some people can overlook things that are obvious red lines to everyone else. Some consider enablers naive bystanders, but they most definitely are not. Enablers are participants in abuse. And abusers always seem to know who they can recruit and who they can't.
@@deannalowman2299 that mans pure evil. I hope things get better for you and that he gets what he deserves. ❤
@@deannalowman2299 Wow that is messed up. I hope things are better for you in PA. Good luck. I wish you the best, after all of that.
@@Libbathegreat The old boy network is strong in the USA. It is still a very patriarchal system, based on glorifying war and the warrior class. I am so sorry to hear that you had to suffer. I would have cut him off completely in that situation and would have tried to get you some help. I have a cousin who is a real assh*le. I spent a lot of time and money, helping his past 2 wives that he abused. It took a while to get him, but finally he is in prison where he belongs.
The nervous short laugh of the mom saying this is Haley right right here referring to the urn took a gasp out of me 😢 I’m so sorry for your loss 💔
Hailey has a some really good friends. They tracked her phone down and even infiltrated the untrustworthy culprit's house. They risked their lives for her, and because of their efforts, she got justice.
Rest in peace to her. She may have been naive but she had a kind and innocent heart. I feel awful for her family and friends that miss her everyday, including Kevin.
But she make her own mistake for building intimate relationship with morw than one person. She create a disastrous recipe for herself.
@@borneandayak6725 what are you saying
@@alicia_nuchitta She did not have to die by any means. (It's very sad that she did) But she also did make some BAD decisions by sleeping with the both on them. And having a back and forth relationship with this creep.
@@tititte30 Thing is, we can all agree he may not have been a creep in the first place. He just became one because, well, that's what desperation can do. The more desperate you want of one thing, the more you learn that you are capable of doing unthinkable things.
This is a common theme for people who enjoy the priveledge of being in a friends with benefits type of relationship. Many people think they can play the game only for them to discover that they are too weak for the consequences of it.
She was lucky
His smugness at trial is so gross. I can understand why his friends at home are having such a hard time accepting their friend did this but the evidence is pretty overwhelming. It seems to me that following a failed suicide attempt he decided to flee with the belief he wouldn’t be caught. Haileys mom is such a strong woman, I can’t fathom her heartbreak. Nicaraguan authorities did a great job working with the US to bring justice to Haley’s family.
To be honest, his friends comments disgusted me. Their comments made it seem like they haven't looked into the case and all the evidence at all. Basically, everyone of them said "I could not imagine him doing something like that, so no, I strongly believe in his innocence no matter what". His former friends from Binghamton on the other hand - who actually experienced him and his behavior in the months before he became a killer - gave good insight into what kind of a person he apparently was.
.... didn't want to write that much but their comments triggered me so hard. 🙄
His friends appeared to be dummies
@@rbznde You should give benefit of doubt in this kind of situation. It's possible they didn't have all the information about the case, and very probable that they were manipulated by someone (like Trecero's parents, lawyers) to make this appearance, maybe in hope of sowing some doubt about the case to help future appeals.
@@rbznde If you were a Nicaraguan teen, you might very well believe your best friend (whom you know as a great guy) that he got scapegoated by the racist American system, and that's why all of a sudden he's on trial for murdering some American girl you've never heard of. He might tell you not to believe anything you read online, or hear on the news. He might beg you to trust in him, no matter what THEY tell you; after all - who do you trust? Your childhood best friend or the terrible system that suddenly imprisoned your innocent childhood best friend?
@@SasquachPLthe problem is they’re all basing it through their emotions!
I don't normally fall in love over a 45 min episode, but Haley seemed like such a good soul. Admire her for her beauty one minute and laugh at her being a dork the next. RIP to an obviously wonderful person.
Yes, but what about her sleeping with 2 guys, breaking someones heart?
Not a positive trait
She was sleeping with two different men who were friends. Very cringy.
Beauty and intelligence are non factors. He killed her. End of story.
Really, really dumb and selfish in my opinion. You can’t play with people’s emotions like that and not expect some consequences. Not blaming her, but let’s face it, it’s like she set herself up.
@@barbaramay1866 "Not blaming her, but here's why it was her fault"
His Friends: "Orlando received an A+ on a science exam, so it's impossible that he could be a killer"
Haley had some really great friends. They were determined to find her even if it meant breaking in by climbing in a window.
God bless you girls.
Sorry for the loss of your friend. 😢
Godbless her friends and family!!! God works in mysterious ways....ones we don't comprehend.
Awesome friends. Very impressive young ladies.
The god that had all this in his divine plan from the start, created the killer and the victim, knowing full well what would happen and did NOTHING to stop it from happening? That god? That god that'll send the killer to heaven if he comes to jesus before he dies? That god?
@@justincredible. C'mon Justin these are obvious concerns. Christians have dealt with them in Jesus 101 class. They are obvious.
When Haley’s dad received her graduation diploma for her… something she worked so lovingly hard for…. That got me!!!!! That meant EVERYTHING to him! 🥺😭😭
Me too
Now he “has a part of her with him” 😢
Yeah, that was rough.
Means everything, means nothing! Just a piece of paper! Her legacy of being nice to others matter more!!
Orlando, dual citizenship (y? USA) punished him. Staying in US probably got him less punishment!! Hahaha 😆 Orlando!!
I'm glad he was sentenced in Nicaragua. Far worse prison conditions than the US and he will likely do the entire 30 years.
It’s one thing to still be friends with someone who commits a horrible crime…perhaps provide support while they’re being held accountable. But to ignore blatant evidence…like the dead body being found in his bed while he’s fleeing the country!? What other evidence do you need?
Never ever, ever let an abuser back into your life! I have lived through this and I was lucky to escape with my life, so if you manage to kick an abuser out of your life, don't let them back in because you trust them! How can you trust someone who is spying on you and is crazy enough to slash your tires? Poor woman, she was destined for a great life which was taken by a jealous monster.
Me too, and each time I let him back in or tried to give him the benefit of the doubt…either me or our children paid dearly…we still are, even 12yrs after he OD’d on his favorite drugs, overseas. He’d kidnapped the children & fled overseas when he realized his families money and connections couldn’t save him from serious abuse and CM charges a neighboring State filed after the kids talked to authorities. My daughter can’t have children of her own bc of the damage he caused. My son is gone, partly because of what his “father” did.
These monsters destroy MANY lives and relationships. When an abuser, MALE OR FEMALE, PROMISES that “you’re going to pay for this for the rest of your life”-BELIEVE THEM!
I’m so sorry for Haley’s family; unfortunately, I know the pain of losing a child…especially during this time of year. I applaud the work her mother is doing. I ended up going into DV/SA counseling myself for over 20yrs; unfortunately, I can’t do it anymore. It’s both rewarding and depressing work because we STILL seem to keep taking steps forward; then leaps backward.
Abusers are often very cunning, very talented conmen and women who fool most people around them. When they have money and family connections..it’s even worse. PLEASE connect with a domestic violence organization or shelter…even if it only happens once. In my years of both personal experience and with other survivors; ITS *NEVER* ONLY ONCE!
Makes cent
Yeah... great life... trying to treat men like toys.
@@kevinknuckles25 you an incel?
"destined for a great life", I don't think so.
He kept smirking even when sentenced. My heart goes out to Haley’s parents and friends.💔
don't worry he will get his punishment out this world
Dont forget she chose the guy
@@rutrakainmeiez5107 what?? She didn't choose to be unalived. What are you a 10y/o??
@@principecaprincipeca2243 lol,always a victim 🤣🤦♂️
@@rutrakainmeiez5107 Agreed, people make stupid choices then want you to feel sorry for them. She got with a dirty immigrant who is from a 3rd world country with no extradition laws. She was pretty enough to get with any nice America guy but nope I want a 5 foot tall latin lover lol
Orlando was just way out of his league and became obsessed, having gotten so close to someone he just couldn’t have. Dude wasn’t thinking properly. Jealousy is a powerful emotion.
Absolutely.Great point.I believe JEALOUSY is one of the most dangerous and deadly emotions that exists within all of us,even those who deny they have ever been.Just most of us can deal with and not take actions. we get over it because at some point we know it’s the right thing to do for ourselves.
Just out of curiosity, what made her out of his league?
@@amyjo18Leagues could be subjective. But I see the same here. Both her boyfriends were way out of her league. She was beautiful and acomplished. They both looked like dorks.
@@kentuky1233I didn't think either of them looked like dorks, and they both seemed as accomplished.....they were both in school like she was....Orlando ultimately wanted to become a doctor like his father. I really don't understand how she was so far "above" either of them. I just don't see it. 🤷♀️
@@amyjo18 you are right about accomplishments. But the difference in looks and vibe is so big they play total different games. She seems outgoing besides being beautiful. They look like reddit users.
Thank God they had a good judge! ❤
30 years definitely isn’t enough for Haley. But, thankful that this country secured justice for this beautiful girl.
I don’t see a beautiful girl, I see a floosie
@@billyaubin5360 ….ok
@@billyaubin5360 Glad somebody said it.
@@billyaubin5360 she slept around would've happened eventually even if it wasn't Orlando shed play with too many guys feelings.
@@tylerjeb7888 right she wanted the d and didn't want to commit to a relationship cuz she loved sleeping around
The scariest thing that ever happened to me, was when my ex-bf tried to strangle me to death. He thought that he had killed me. I pretended to pass out and slowed my breakdown to almost nothing so he would believe I wasn't breathing. It saved my life. Listening to him try to decide what to do with my dead body was terrifying. I finally pretended to wake up and he hugged me and told me he was sorry. I knew he wasn't sorry, that he was sorry he thought he was about to go to prison.
I'm so sorry this happened to you and hope you are safe now... I've been choked and held down... It's a horrible scary feeling but you having to lay there while he was thinking about what to do with your body..... Omg
Wow that's fuct up
Oh my god..! I can only wish the best for you... And of course he wasn't sorry.. He was f... relieved girl.. Hope you reported him... Stay safe
I bet he was tall dark and handsome tho huh? Maybe a bad boy skater? BBC😂
Sounds made up story to me.
His friends are vapid. Hoping the prison is horrible and he is suffering daily.
Trust me...prison in NICO is horrible ...been in Nicaragua a few times...drove by the prison...it can be seen from the highway...no way get near ...!!! He will have a wonderful time...
Nicaragua prison is probably 10x worst than any USA …. His only hope is to bribe someone to break him out
He would've been better off in a US prison. But serve him right
If we spend more time instilling better values into our children then we would not be going through "ALL" this drama 😢
It's ironic justice that he ran away to Nicaragua thinking he was better off to only end up in Nicaraguan prison, which is a lot worse than prison in the US. Haley deserved a good and long life. Rest in peace, friend.
I doubt he’ll be in prison for long, if his family has money , I’m sure they’ll pay for his release.
@@didasenga9397 that would look really bad politically for such a high profile case
Good I hope he rots. Some criminals deserve worse living conditions.
Yep! Justice won the day! He can try to hide but justice caught up with him. Now he's in a worse place
@@elijahfoster2 it happens all the time, if it’s ever discovered they’ll just throw some guard under the bus and make something up
the fact that he's admitting to doing it but saying that he was not in his right mind. WHILE his friends and family are still delusional, believing that he didn't do it, is insane.
these love/sex triangles almost always end in tears😢 and heartache
rip haley
Yep. Polyamorous is the new fad..
Thank you Nicaragua.
God bless...
The fact that he never took responsibility for his actions says everything one needs to know about this pos! No remorse and no means of being apologetic to Haleys family is disgusting 😤
people like that never admit anything,,, it's a mental disorder and you have to see it in the actions. cutting tires with a knife is a very Violent message. The mental disorder is not something he will admit because he thinks only about himself. Like a very young and violent narcicist. There isn't a reason for somebody in this family for not stopping this.
@@JustMe-gs9xi I agree but cutting someone's tires is more than enough reason to be on high alert! After that, she should've never continued to see him let alone be alone with him. This again is a lesson to all who may experience the things she went through leading up to her last breath. Take one's unstable actions seriously and cut ties and definitely inform everyone in your circle and officials
It’s insane how his friends are defending him. Like you didn’t even know the dark side to him!! Narcissistic people are literally easy going at so nice at first. It isn’t until they can’t control you and are behind closed doors that they show their dark side.
Really though!!
Exactamente !!!
That's what those people do, and Biden is letting them in across the border for free.
Yeah, basically: "this person - [who I never personally rejected] - has never been mean to me personally!" 🤷🙃
> "Sooooo there's no way he would be mean to someone who he felt personally rejected by, behind closed doors..." 🙃
> _("And if he wasn't dumb enough to physically attack me in public then he's CLEARLY incapable of attacking his ex in private.")_
I don't feel the same way about his friends. From personal experience, I know it is very difficult when it comes to somebody you care about for a long time to accept something like this. In my case I couldn't accept the possibility for decades; when there were signs of problematic behavior in one of my sons. I just loved him too much and to me he was always the most amazing boy with all positive qualities. But people would mention things to me from time to time and I just rejected the idea. I wasn't until he actually turned on and criminalized me that I was shaken into acknowledging that part of his personality; which he never exposed to me before. And I know there are people who are quite malicious and evil minded but who work very hard to put on a completely different appearance. People do not really wear their true nature on their sleeves. People can be very deceptive. And we all have a tendencey to judge others on the basis of appearances. So they may say they don't believe it, but what they really mean is that it does not seem possible. This happened a long way from where they knew him. When people you trust really betray that trust and damage your life, it's very traumatic - and that happens. But right up to that moment, if somebody told you they were capable of that kindd of behavior, you absolutely would not believe it.
Her mother has a great spirit, I couldn’t recover from that happening to my own daughter like she has. Great mom and lady, much respect and peace for you and your family!
those friends of his are in a crazy amount of denial. ive been so so effed up on drugs and alcohol that i could barely spell my own name and ive never even come close to putting my hands on a woman. Thats a ridiculous cop out and lack of accountability. glad he got 30 years. he should get 100 if it was possible.
I hope her mom can let go of the guilt. Even if Haley had pressed those charges, it doesn’t mean Orlando would’ve stopped. If anything it might have made him go over the edge sooner.
Guilt is the worst thing we can carry, I truly hope she’s able to let that go ❤
Yes, I really liked her mother. Her tears were so heartfelt.
That was my first thought, when she expressed guilt over not pushing her daughter to press charges, imo that would have only escalated his anger and vengeance in a much faster manner. Possessive, jealous people are soo dangerous and unpredictable. Rip Haley
Its very unlikely that filing charges would have actually done anything, they would have had to prove it... I had a situation once where a neighbor vandalized a storage container on the edge of my property. The cops were familiar with who we suspected had done it, and they didn't like him. But as much as they also believed he did it, it simply couldn't be proven....
If there's one thing we can learn from it, it's how fundamentally important it is to educate our children about the warning signs of coercive control and how to get away alive from people like this.
If only she just stayed loyal to her actual bf and didnt want to go around hooking up with random guys from her college.
It doesn't matter if he was in his right mind. He murdered someone. You cannot force love. Love let’s go. My heart goes out to the parents and the young life that was taken to soon.
You would never hurt the one you love. Ever. He didn’t love her. He was mad that he didn’t get his way with her. He was a spoiled entitled narcissist. People like that need to be locked away for life, they’re a danger to society.
@@kadebebesis4204 they "dated" on and off for 1.5 yrs. when it was convenient for her, while also dating his frat buddy. she didnt deserve her outcome, but choices played a role. ladies, never play this game
@@iggypopisgod9its ok for men lol
With such a mother, I've no doubt Haley was a strong, beautiful and kind-hearted person. May god rest her soul.
Her mother should have raised her better though.
Never thought this was a sentence I would proclaim... Bravo Nicaragua, bravo
I find it insane that anyone who maliciously takes someone's life would get anything lighter than life in person
Right? Like how does that even make sense.
I find it insane that the US has such awfull long sentences.
And at the same time the US has MOST prisoners of ALL countries, relatively AND absolutely. Let that sink in.
And yet you think you are doing good somehow. THATS insane.
No worries, 30 years in a Nicaraguan prison is like 3 lives in a US prison. He’s gonna pay one way or another if he even survives the first 5 years there. Also for the inmates he’s an outsider not a Nicaraguan he has an accent and his gonna be fresh meat. He’s gonna enjoy his stay a lot. Trust me 😊
Super impressed w the women working in the Justice dept in Nicaragua who helped sentence a man in that country! My heart goes out to Haley’s parents siblings friends and all who loved her ♥️
If you're a REAL TRUE friend, you will not tolerate his bad actions.
The bravery of Haley's friends is admirable, THOSE are friends. Anyone that is as arrogant as Orlando, if they get away with it, you can be certain they will do it again.
His friends …. I just can’t believe that they think he is innocent of this crime. He killed her because he couldn’t control her. It’s sad, and honestly, 30 yrs isn’t enough.
Agreed
He killed her because he couldn't control her. That's true. And she got killed because she continued satisfying her lust with a mentally odd human. I don't think she wouldn't have realised that Orlando has odd personality
Yes, and she insulted his sense of masculinity & damaged his ego.
@@Arin9626 No, she got killed because he's a murderous demon spawn of a human. Nothing else.
If you can think of a single thing you, personally, can do or say that warrants and justifies someone strangling the life out of you, please tell me. Cus that's what you're arguing.
Absolutely right. 30 yrs is not enough. If I was the judge, I would have given him the death sentence by strangulation.
As a hispanic raised in third world South America I was so shocked the Nicaraguan courts followed thru with the conviction. Latin American culture has this sorta flippant undercurrent that is based on some weird emotional loyalty, which is why I think this Orlando person was displaying this relaxed arrogance I’ve seen so many things swept under the rug where I’m from. Kudos to the Nicaraguan court system for standing objectively firm.
They will do this for the benefit of good liaisons with the U.S., I doubt they would've done it if it was a woman of their own.. but I'm willing to be proved wrong
Sadly there are many many bad and evil men in the world, and an equal number of Religions and National Attitudes towards women, totally run by "Men" that continue, without change. However, since "Men" "invented GOD" they figure that "they" are always RIGHT! It's always been a barbaric world run by prehistoric attitudes of men against women and also against peace in this world with humans, animals and our planet. Thousands of years, and NO Change for the better... "Don't hold your breath." Thanks for this post
Odds are they demanded some money
I’m surprised they didn’t throw him a parade for killing a white American woman.
Of course they did! The victim is American. 1) They don’t want to look bad in an international light and 2) they know the power balance here is the US has more power and will take additional steps if he wasn’t convicted
what a judge ❤❤❤❤❤
Man, she really looks like a great person, doesn't she? She looks like a genuinely happy, innocent person - like someone who would be happy to listen to anyone's problems. What a sad loss.
Everyone in their early 20s are like that!
No, there is no way a person could not remember such a violent encounter. The intensity of that situation would be unforgettable.
He playing obviously! This guy new when to pack his suitcase and get out!
Trying to get off with the insanity defense
If I was him I would have rather came to America for prison than being Nicaragua for prison. And I can't believe some of his friends still think he's innocent.
I agree, but the only good thing for him there is that they allow his mommy to bring him food. He is a cold blooded killer and a coward!
well he tried to play the system and it backfired. He thought he would get leniency from his own country. It's the best justice that he got slammed harder for it.
NICARAGUA IS AMÉRICA TOO 😝😝🥴🥴🥴
Because he was a nice murderer. When you ask the neighbor of a murderer, they always say, he was so nice, and we never expected that he would ever be a murderer. So his friends who says, that’s not who he is, they are 100% in denial!!
It’s a blessing he is truly experiencing punishment in the prison there. Ours are bad, but theirs are worse.
His friends in Nicaragua saw all the evidence, he admits it but says he couldn't remember it all, however his ridiculous friends in his home country still defend him and think he might not have done it. Crazy people.
Orlando’s friends are lunatics
That poor family!!!! 😭😭😭 her dad did such a beautiful thing to honor her by walking up that stage ❤
Idk how it wasnt obvious to his friends. This girl he had a romantic relationship with, where she rejects him, was found dead in his house... in his room... where he then literally jumps on a plane instantly while leaving her body in place and heads back to his home country. The contemporaneous security footage illustrates the timeline perfectly as well.
His friends: "Na couldn't be him, he was cool in class back in the day."
They have a personal relationship with him and their own idea of the kind of person he is. Even with a timeline of that day, they are going to have trouble believing this boy they believe they knew to be a cold blooded murderer. They didn't know the victim. Most people are going to have a hard time wrapping their heads around that.
If they have never seen that side of him, it's understandable they are in disbelief. Not sure why people are attacking his friends.
It was not a romantic relationship. It was a no strings attached relationship. Haley continued that relationship despite knowing that Orlando is a odd human being...to satisfy her lust...and that eventually led to her end...
@@Arin9626 So, she deserved to die because she enjoyed hooking up with this psycho? Got it 😒
@@Arin9626 stop blaming her you sick freak. The guy is a monster and he’s getting what he deserves in prison. Gorgeous woman didn’t deserve that ending.
I am so impressed with how Nicaragua handled Haley's case. I worked with Latin America for many years and until today I had never heard of a similar court setup. I hope it is an example that other countries can follow. Rest in peace, Haley.
The judge was not gonna let is slide..
Femicide laws are grossly sexist and misandrist. And victims' families shouldn't even be in courtrooms. They heavily prejudice cases and ensure that they're decided on emotions instead of facts.
@@ingridakerblom7577 Why would they? lol
Justice was served
You can forget that. The entire world hates the US and the US is going down.
Dont even get me started on the idiot remarks of the detective ('we dont have femicide', 'showcase trial', 'not like we do it', suggesting it is wrong somehow. "its not double jeopardy', it IS double jeopardy, etc and with his stupid ethnocentric expressions he damaged US position even more. If that is even possible at this time)
US probably payed a good amount too.
I wish every kid, beginning with junior high, could be sat down in small classrooms to watch, listen and learn from this video & others in the seriers, once or twice a year, and then discuss it. Perhaps college kids or other school kids that have life experiences to share. I wish...
Absolutely 💯
They say it takes 2 minutes to strangle someone. Can one be temporarily insane for 2 minutes strangling someone, touching them, watching them struggle, possibly cry? It's hard to believe.
Wow! Congratulations to the Judge who heard this horrible case. If Orlando had been contrite, crying, and apologetic he may have have gotten a lesser prison sentence. But he looked arrogant in court. The Mistreatment & abuse of women is bad enough in the US but in other countries the disrespect for woman is taken to en entirely different low. The judge recognized this fact and she made Orlando an example for her entire country. Kudos to her! ❤❤❤❤
Domestic violence and violence against women knows no bounds. It’s not limited to any culture or race.
You people are insane.
Hailey was using men for sex. That’s a dangerous game.
Haley’s friends are rockstars. Relentlessly tracking her and finding her body. We should all be so fortunate to have such devoted pals. So sorry for Haley’s parents and friends.
Orlando belongs in prison long term; he has no remorse and has impulse control issues. BS about Orlando not remembering strangulating Haley. She is truly a free spirit now. RIP Haley.
As a Nicaraguan and knowing the judicial system he will be out in 5 years or 7 years, and if he’s a member of the Sandinista regime (the “government”) he will definitely be out soon.
He slashed her tires and yet still slept with him..🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
I ended a 7 years friendship because my male friend started acting weird towards me smh. I've been teaching my son that is now a teenager that nobody belongs to you. Sometimes you may have feelings for people that they don't have for you, and you must control your emotions when it comes to all situations in life. The only person that belongs to you is you.
Very well said, i always keep note of this when talking to new girls/people in general. I can't change how they feel about me, that's completely up to them, and to let it go. Everyone has a right to an opinion/preference. i don't have control over anyone and their feelings and that's fine.. it's just sad that some people resort to crazy stuff like this
Surprised this comment isn't leading the likes for the video.
Yep. That's it. As a man who has felt betrayed, jealous, etc., I had to keep my emotions in check. It wasn't easy. Heartache hurts, but all is fair in love and war and you just have to soldier on.
Men are never JUST FRIENDS with you. They will be your friend, but they ALWAYS want to be more (have sex with you). This took me until my 30s to finally come to terms with. I have more male friends than I can count and now I realize all of them wanted to have sex with me. I was too naive in my 20s to realize this, but now in my 30s I know they were just trying to get with me. You strung that guy along for 7 years, unknowingly and not your fault, but in his eyes you were probably doing it on purpose and he was getting impatient waiting on you to realize you were in love. Don't keep male "friends". That is dangerous. Unless they are friends with your boyfriend or husband first.
@@Janellabelle there ARE decent men out there and i myself have plenty of platonic relationships with female friends. i actually kinda use that as a gateway to meet more of their girlfriends who i may be sexually attracted to. and they get it. they pounce at the chance to be my wingwoman. but i’m also very picky as to which women i put on my tracklist. not ALL guys just want to have sex with any/every thing.
I love that he thought he was running home to escape punishment and ended up getting it worse than he would have gotten here in the US.
In Nicaragua, if a man kills a woman has no chance to be sentenced as Not guilty, the amazing thing was that even though Nicaragua has political issues with the US, the authorities cooperated with the case.
I sure hope he enjoys rice and beans!
Here in Mexico the minimum is 40 to 60 years in prison for feminine, there is no light sentence on that. Hope that Haley's mom's can bring that law to the US.
When daughter says I'm not committed in relationship but seeing two guys, even though mom knows about it..big red flag here.. It is not independent life
So a person is not allowed to date multiple people now?
That is an absurd statement.
@@kitrichardson5573 that's what led to hear death, soooooo.
Going back and forth from one guy to another is never going to lead to anything good. Hope people don't miss that point in this whole ordeal. Doing it God's way invites the blessing. Ignoring Him leads to death.
"For awhile she kept distance from Orlando but despite warning's from her family and friends she eventually led him back into her life". Rules to live by, listen to the people that love you. So sad so young and all she wanted was to have fun and finished college, but you have to trust your gut, specially in this crazy world we are living. Stay safe everyone out there.
She asked for it per se..
Her lifestyle is not wat can be called morally upright of our children....period
Red flags are red for a reason
@@kelvinpragassa4871 she is the victim here. No behaviour can justify someone killing another person. She did NOT ask for it.
@@kelvinpragassa4871Red pill speach.
Not only that…she had a boyfriend and had been sleeping with another guy. Being a “free spirit” can really cause these consequences…
@@ivannatereshchuk1663 evil people, killers, cause these consequences.
How could his friends or anyone believe his innocence?!?! That’s absolutely insane! The evidence on him was VERY clear. He had numerous situations in front of other people showing obsessive and controlling behaviors. He seems like a spoiled child not getting his way and took someone’s life! What a psycho, I pray he gets all he deserves.
He needs to be taken out in prison. However let’s not act like Haley is innocent in this. She acted like a sl-t and couldn’t stop sleeping around. Which invited this monster into her life. Mind you, after he already acted crazy she still couldn’t keep her trap closed.
Exactly. His friends are delusional but I wouldn’t expect anything less with such soft spoken people in this generation.
@@aStarBas3Odyss3ywhat do you mean soft spoken people?
Seems like she went to college to sleep around
@@FlowerItzel18 I mean weak and feeble. Just how I would assume you are for asking that ridiculous question. Nobody is out to get you.
Rip Haley but she was kinda dumb to go back to him after already being with Kevin. It's too much back and forth.
Rest in Peace Haley. God Bless. Condolences to family and friends.
As a mother, I cried so hard after watching this episode, I am so proud of that Nicaraguan judge, may she rest in heaven ❤
If he woke up and found his girlfriend dead and didn't know what happened, he would call the police asap. This is how you know he's lying
not necessarily.
Being trusting is NOT a good quality. Her mother is high, saying that. Being too trusting is what got that girl unalived.
She was on and off between 2 boyfriends that knew each other… it was a ticking bomb…
Okay but the guys friends !!!???you can’t believe it was him!? Two people were at his home only one left alive she was found dead in HIS BED IN HIS APT!? and you’re still like “oh no couldn’t be him he was nice” tf usually the sickest ppl in the head are the most charming to people he wrote A WHOLE NOTE he fled the country and you don’t believe it!? They’re in some insane denial OMG 😅
Mom of a serial killer would also see him as a good son. They knew his one side that he was showing to them, not the other. Besides, I think that these friends from his motherland. So, after he went to the USA he possibly wasn't the guy they knew.
As scary a thought as it is...most people are imbeciles...his friends are a perfect example of this.
The saddest part to all this is they knew, the mother and Haley knew of Orlando's problem but Haley made the wrong choice of ignoring the obvious warning signs. She believed in the LIE that Orlando was a good person and would not harm her, and she decided that the problems she did witness were not as important as her so called perceptions of him being a good nurse. She didnt want him to be thrown out of Nursing school becuase of his poor choices. But this was NOT her decision to make, rather, her decision was to protect her life and her future. Orlando made the poor choices and needed to be held accountable for those choices.
This is why I teach my daughter to IGNORE your feelings, ignore what you may believe about somone and LOOK at the behavior, look at what they are actually doing separate from what you feel and believe. I tell her that she is NOT responsible for the consequences of someone elses poor choices. Make your decisions based on the FACTS and do not allow your feelings to get in the way. Its the same problem with Orlando's friends in Nicaragua as they are only looking at their feelings and what they believe to be true versus the actual truth of Orlando's behavior.
what do you expect? They grow up steeped in this sort of violence
Definitely in denial! Smh
i swear they need to teach emotional intelligence classes from grade school thru high school. that will lay a good foundation for young people to understand emotions and manage them rationally, and i bet we will start seeing less domestic violence and tragedies like this one.
Sorry, they actively teach emotional fragility, victimhood, petite narcissism, and race/class/gender/etc division. All in the name of inclusion, equity, and other virtues of neomarxism.
This is the job of parents. Not schools.
@@5thdimension625 yet parents don’t do it. Parents don’t want schools to teach a lot of stuff, but then they won’t do it themselves. So when parents continue to be lazy the school has to step in for the sake of the kids
@@5thdimension625 Many parents are not capable of teaching that. It’s a complex topic that many people don’t understand, even when they are adults.
I think that’s a great idea!
You can't even see him sorry for what he did
He looks bored and arrogant