The Case Against Nicole Addimando | Full Episode
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2023
- A young mother shoots her partner claiming self-defense and abuse. The killing of the popular gymnastics coach divides a town. CBS News correspondent Jericka Duncan reports for "48 Hours." Watch more full episodes of "48 Hours" on Pluto TV.
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The same people who sing songs in support of Nicole are the same kind of people who accused Bidens victim of lying. Joe Biden killed the metoo movement.
How easy it is to drag a man's name through the mud who's not here to defend himself. So, brave.
I'm continuously confused as to how exactly you can r4pe a spouse. That's simply not a thing.
And how are you more likely to be a victim as an adult because of childhood trauma? That's ridiculous. Life long victims? Come on man
@@StevenEvens7125 25:15
"My son would never do that."
- said every mother of every murderer
And every mother of every innocent person.
And mothers also say that about their killer daughters.
true... same goes for daughters and fathers....
You're not _not_ right.
true!!! a mother who doesn’t know their sons sick attitude
My father was one of the most abusive men behind closed doors. He terrorized us daily but he never acted that way in front of anyone outside our house. Narcissist’s know how to hide their behavior.
Yes, my friends didn’t even have one clue of my abuse until I finally stopped defending him and told them. It became obvious but sometimes it’s too late. Sadly, I have no visual proof and this girl did! No wonder the abused end up dead or feel stuck. Resources are not always there either!
But how do we really know he was abusive if he ain’t alive to tell his side of the story
She is a killer and was not self defense at all she is a killer I am happy she is charged because she is monster I can tell from her lier friends
God bless him and her mum really good family shame our female don't know what they want really men to men change and all other female friends of his wife represent evil u can see how they lie
Lmao is he your father?
Ughhhh I hate when a parent refuses to believe their child is incapable of anything negative. She had no idea.
Yes. His mother is thinking, that her son would come to her and say: " I am agressiv against women"? "Mom I beat "my woman", when she deserves this or when I am not in good mood."??? 🤦🏻♀️🤯🤷🏻♀️🤯
Typical for most American parents. "My baby could never have done this!"
Okay the same can be said about Nikki. She absolutely could he lying and nobody seems to think that
❤
Of COURSE there are cases of abuse where the parents are completely biased and refuse point blank to believe their son is the monster that he is. But in this case, the defense is pathetic, and its obvious this woman is very troubled with a history of compulsive lying. There is no evidence he ever hurt her.
I would never allow my child to get on national tv and speak on the character of someone who is only her teacher
Hear, hear!
Yes. It felt very off to me.
My dad was a pillar in the church. But behind closed doors was unrecognizable. I was sexually and physically abused behind closed doors. People at church thought he was perfect. I kept his secret until I was 16. I was afraid to tell anyone due to fear of rejection. My sister helped me get out of the situation.
I met and married a man who would continue the abuse. I was so petrified of my dad that even after he died, I dreamed he came back after me. After awhile I was confused about who was chasing me. It would start out being my dad and then it was my husband. I was so traumatized. Fortunately, I turned to God and He helped me sort out what was going on and I no longer have those dreams. Thank God!!!
Thanks for sharing and happier that God helped you through it.❤
She has a funny last name. So I think she's guilty.
I hope you left your husband too😢
I hope you one day find peace. 😢 Im so sorry!
That's what we do...may you always be blessed
CPS giving warnings first before visiting is RIDICULOUS. They should be by surprise.
Yea wtf is that?!?!? For example-Someone can tell the authorities
“The gun is hidden under the cabinet”
What’s not gonna be there after you know someone’s coming to investigate you?? It’s almost helping them out.. smfh
Yeah I've never heard of CPS giving a heads up before showing up It doesn't work that way
@@shelleycabarrus8104It does work that way. You can't just show up.
@@shelleycabarrus8104 the only time they just show up like that is in extreme cases and they bring the police with them.
Yes! I reported things multiple times and they always call first. So ridiculous!
Those people who are SO SURE Chris couldn't hurt someone are the reason my 8yo had to hide in a closet with a cordless phone to call for help. After I got out, my kid's lifelong best friend (bestie's mom and I have known each other since we were 15) SCOLDED my daughter for, "lying about such a good man." It has absolutely crushed my child.
My daughter is now 11yo, and refuses to allow her dad to pretend none of this happened--so now all the mental abuse he put me through he is doing to her. Lying, guilting, threatening, manipulating. But it's my daughter and I who have been entirely ostracized, and stories like this are why I didn't go to the cops even when he tried to end my life in front of our daughter.
You NEVER "know" that someone isn't an abuser. Never.
And you don't know when the woman is a liar and the abuser. Men bever tell. Women abuse men far more, whether mentally or physically.
She is guilty beyond belief. She completely set him up. I’m sick of these scummy women claiming abuse. At least she’ll go to hell.
@kimmaline
I am so so sorry what you and your daughter went through. I hope you have some peace and safety in your life.
I learned my lesson with the police. The response from them and the people I supported my whole life were more life wrecking than the crime. They'll let you die to avoid work or discomfort.
@@sab_1055 I'm so, so sorry for what you've been through. I understand, I really do. My husband has a job that keeps him very powerfully placed, the kind of job where people like bragging they know someone who does it. He also knows all the cops. The whole thing has been a joke. He makes a quarter mil a year, I have a severe neurovascular disease--I'm throwing all my stuff into storage so my daughter and I can couch surf this summer, he and the girlfriend went skiing three times this winter.
It was easily twice as bad because of the way people didn't step up and stand by me. He admitted to being an abuser 15yrs ago, got help for it. The same friends we had then have suddenly forgotten about that I guess.
I never ever thought I could end up bitter. It just wasn't my personality. Then I spent three years listening to my little girl scream, "No Daddy! Leave my Mama alone!" in her sleep. It changes you. Mama Bear is in full effect, and I'm in that deep, cold, calm rage place. Call me a liar, whatever. But a 7yo child who hid in a closet to call for help? Are you kidding?
Sending you hugs and support. I wish the world was better.
To all the moms out there, no matter how much you think you know your child, you will never know your child the way an intimate partner does!! Stop saying what your child is or isn’t capable of because the reality is you have NO idea!!
This is not always true, some parents know thier child more than anyone
Also why do you expect a mother or family to not say what they know about thier child
Sons and daughters
If you had asked me about my brother a year ago, I would say he was kind, calm, caring, funny, never violent. But we didn’t know he would go home every day and beat his girlfriend in front of their toddler almost every day. Choking her out until she blacked out, smashing her belongings. Even telling his child to say horrible things to her mother. Idk if she is innocent or guilty, what I do know is that the mother and others who say such kind words about her son, probably had no idea. Abusers are often the most charming people in society, because if they weren’t it would be too obvious how horrible they truly are. She had history of medical records supporting her claims of abuse, and physical witnesses who also saw her injuries. I find it so hard to believe she lied all those times.
You can also say that about regular people.
A person's insecurity is a dangerous weakness.
my issue is that if she had all this proof and she kept telling professionals about it why did this never reach the police? It seems like she knew how and where to lie in a way that would help give her story credibility but not take it so far that it reaches the police and they come investigate and find out its all false.
@@SpydersByte she was terrified, duh! she had no confidence in the police protecting her. which, I don't blame her thinking that way.
@maddii34u
I’m not saying she was lying to medical personnel and that he didn’t abuse her, nor that he did, but medics are mandated reporters, and at that point it wasn’t even up to her to report it.. Why doctor(s) and nurse(s) didn’t?
My dad was the guy nobody ever suspected would do anything wrong. But behind closed doors, he was a monster. I can't stand when people stick up for monsters when they never spent a minute behind closed doors with them. 🎭
I share your pain...stay strong 🦾
YES ! And I laughed to those Chris supporters. Those students spent time in his class like a couple hours/week ? seriously ?
@lucetothebridge Yes!!! I felt so enraged. That's doesn't make him a good guy. He was at his job.. IN PUBLIC of course he was playing the good guy role!! Ugh
@@sharonthompson7556 You as well!
Exactly. It's not their place to judge how a person acts behind closed doors. They wouldn't know.
She was released 1/4/24 on parole.
This episode was wild. I was shocked to see so many people say, "He would never do this." anyone is capable of horrible things. I'd be curious to see more evidence, text logs, and search histories...
thank you for sharing that. i hope she is able to reconnect with her children and build her life back up.
Then evil won
Then justice won.
It’s always the great guy when he’s around others, but in private when they’re drinking, they change to completely different people 😢
My ex-husband was emotionally, mentally and, at times, physically abusive. The outside world thought he was the nicest, most personable, fun-loving guy you'd ever meet. But that's how manipulative abusers get away with what they do...the only people to see their dark side are the ones closest to them, whom they love the most, and can control the easiest.
I would love to hear what your ex-husband has to say about you...
No, he didn’t “LOVE” you. If someone loves you, he/she doesn’t hurt you.
@@time558 - you are the problem!
@@time558why?
I agree. Not understanding all these hateful comments. 😮
If you are being abused by a man who is well-known and really admired-you can forget about ever being believed-it will never ever happen! This story is heartbreaking on many levels.
So true
I believe you. 👍🍻
Very true
@@rebeccaaicea4974 yes unfortunately. 👍🍻
@@Control-Alt-Delete619 it’s crazy smh
The prosecutor should be ashamed of herself. She definitely came off sounding self-righteous and all-knowing. Every time she spoke, I got more irritated with her. Her lack of DV knowledge was evident. From a survivor, shame on her.
I agree. She was so arrogant
She won and that’s her job. Go do her job if you don’t like it
@@rainaeasley7863 I'm sure I could. But I definitely wouldn't be full of myself like she is.
She isn't ignorant to abuse, at ALL. This makes her behavior even more abhorrent. Domestic abuse survivors have so few options, and everyone of them is a gamble with their own lives.
Yes but when it happens to people who are accusatory then they get it and feel regret for accusing the victim.
Is this a joke?! I don’t believe she shouldn’t be held accountable for manslaughter BUT to say she lied about being abused on top of sending her to jail for 20 years to life?!?! Wow smh.
She got released this year. ♥️
I think she did lie. No abused wife provokes like that. She got out I read? Shows you you can get away with it
@@robbertkoppenol4517 if you were never an abused wife I don’t think you can say how an abused wife thinks or acts…
@ChelsiB. Well she wasn't afraid anyway for another beating. Which never happened I suspect. Just believe her on her word is also not the wayl is it? There are enough cases around where it was more clear it all having been all faked.
@@ChelsiB.well I have rights to speak. I was abused by my ex. Mentally. Physically. Emotionally sexually. .
We have no proof if she made this up or not… where’s the texts then of her saying he abused her then. Also why did she tell someone “he’s not dead yet” …
I understand the point that you might get lashing out. And yes if she was actually abused she would be scared leaving. I understand that all
But also maybe she was the one with the personality disorder and did make it up. It is quite possible she was suffering from a personality disorder that kicked in around 16-18 right before she met him. Also her sexual history with the cop shows extreme instability.
What I’m saying is you can’t automatically say she was being abused.
People know I was abused. How? I would call my family weekly and tell them I was living I hell. That I thought I would be stabbed in my sleep. That I was in an extremely toxic relationship ( most embarrassing thing I said to my ex wife ).
I don’t see the evidence of her actually reaching out. It’s her codependent friend trying to “over help her” and giving her the pity card is what I see. . And I see a woman with Personality disorder
My son abused his wife for 23 years. No one believed her in the justice community but I saw it for myself. My son charms people around him and only those closest to him ever saw the true him. He has convinced so many people that she abused him. He weighs 230 lbs, takes steroids, works out all the time. He loves guns and has pointed them at her several times. He is 6'2". His wife weighs 112 and is 5'4". He claims she knocks him down and strangles him. His neck is massive. He claims he covers in a corner while she abuses him. Truth is that is what he does to her. This weekend she fled town. She was told to by the unification therapist. He tells her she is in danger still. She left him 18mos ago and he divorced her. But the mental abuse continues. She was forced to leave her 12 yr old behind and run for her life. He made her take out a huge life insurance policy on herself a few years ago. And just before she ran, she was sure he was plotting her death, wanting her to go on remote hiking trips in mountains. He smoozed the court therapist into believing him and got custody of their daughter who now hates her mother and thinks she is a boy. I belive my daughter in law. I know how abusive he has been to her even though I haven't witnessed it for several years. My son cut me out of their lives because when he got full disability from the army, I had the audacity to say he should start helping pay the bills. His wife has paid for everything since they met. Everything he gets, he spends on himself. I can't believe I raised this uncaring son. My other 2 boys are nothing like him.
Long and short, this woman got a really raw deal. I believe her. The prosecutor just wanted a victory. I have very little respect for our courts, especially prosecutors who care nothing for the law and everything for their bragging rights on convictions. Shame on her
Thank God someone believes her!! Sometimes we try to raise amazing kids and they still turn out like s*** maybe he was just evil from the beginning. I bet if you think back to his childhood you'll see red flags and things that he did that would precipitate this kind of behavior.
Respect That you Open your eyes as a Parent altough its very sad and hurting. A lot of Parents are blind or even lie intentionnally when it comes to their Children. I with you all the Best (sorry I speak German my english is Not That Good).
Thank you for your story. Agree with you 100% about your take on that prosecutor.
For a minute I thought you're telling my story. I'm South African and his mother didn't believe me, I had to leave my then 2 year old with her because I had to run for my life leaving everything behind. He's a rugby player and I'm struggling to find employment and finish my auditing career path
If you are willing< Me and my family can do something about it. Only a coward abuses women and children. He isn't your son no more. You let me know and he will find himself somewhere remote too.
As a domestic violence survivor, this just brings me in tears, cause nobody or nothing will ever understand what we genuinely went through unless you go through it too (and God forbid).
She has a funny last name. So I think she's guilty.
Awww poor baby. He lost his entire life. I don't care if he was beating her daily. Get out of the relationship. There are less extreme actions that someone can take than killing someone. Duh.
I’m survivor of domestic violence and I completely understand her. God bless her always.
How do you determine the truth? You saw the Amber Heard vs Johnny Depp case.
Seeking for attention babe?
NEVER LET YOUR KIDS HAVE SLEEP OVERS. My father never allowed it. He protected us, always. He would say, I don’t know who goes in and out of that house. Gracias Papi, rest in peace ❤️
May your father rest in peace 🤍 My dad doesn’t allow us to have sleepovers either. Both my parents agree it is dangerous.
I escaped a 4 year abusive relationship and every time I called 911 he would manipulate the cops into believing that I was the aggressor despite the bruises and cuts all over my body. The authorities made my situation 10x worse and caused him to retaliate against me for calling for help. Finally I confided in his parents about the abuse and they supported me and helped me safetly get away from their son. I am so grateful that his parents supported me because watching these cases just shows how many parents will support their abusive children no matter what. If you are in an abusive relationship DO NOT tell them you plan on leaving… just leave silently or have support to help you get out safetly. My heart goes out to anyone dealing with this and all domestic violence survivors❤️
I was married to a man for 16 years, who EVERYONE loved and thought was just the best. The man he was at home, was another story. Unless you’ve lived this life, you’ll never understand.
So how'd you get out? Did you shoot him in the head?
@@joez.2794 well, he didn’t beat me. He was emotionally, financially and mentally abusive. Idk what I would have done if I feared for my life
@@keeksbee5441I believe you. Don’t ask me how I know.
completely irrelevant to this story since it was proven she made it up and murdered her husband in cold blood.
What happened???❓❓❓
Until you have been in a domestic violence situation, you can not POSSIBLY understand what a person goes through. You can not judge what you cannot understand. The mental abuse is horrific, the guilt and embarrassment make you feel like a pile of bricks are on your back. The fear of retribution from the abuser locks you up so that you can not make clear decisions.
Rubbish!!! Can't they leave the abuser? Weak people everywhere
@@afeahdemefa564. My ex husband started beating and belittling me about a year into our marriage, I had been put in hospital to the point of my mother walked past me without recognising me. I left him so many times, he found me beat me again. You don't know how hard it is so don't pass judgement, instead if someone comes to your door with teeth sticking out of there cheeks, many obvious broken bones in there face, don't turn your back like my neighbours did, what because he would have shot them for helping. Eventually, with nothing exept a little money from my parents I fled to SA. Just don't come out with silly comments, I would like to see you walk a mile in a beaten, raped, and abused woman's shoes and say " they can walk away"
@@afeahdemefa564 She shot the dude. That was decidedly NOT weak. You should be a fan of hers.
@@afeahdemefa564. And I am not weak, that's just yet another insult and thoughtless comment.
My sister went through this, but she never really left him,and even followed him to the grave.
I never believe moms advocating for their offsprings. I go by their ex wives and girlfriends and criminal records😁
The whole time I was wondering what his Ex’s have to say. I hate to not believe her, but it is highly suspect that she’s made these claims about virtually every man she has ever met including the maintenance guy. If it was just him and another BF or something that would be one thing but she’s claimed this about 5 or 6 different men. Is every man in Poughkeepsie an abuser? She starts to seem like the boy who cried wolf at this point. The internet searches seemed pretty sketchy too.
This is how domestic violence cases usually end- at least one will be dead. The fact that a random person at the gym observed his anger and feared for his children is very telling. Her multiple police and hospital reports are not “fabrications.”
I'm disgusted that abusers get away with abuse. My husband abused me for years and threatened to take my children away from me. Most people did not believe me, because he came across so charming and likeable. I only got away 15years later, when my children were older. They confirmed the abuse before people would believe me.
U don't know what happen
She has a funny last name. So I think she's guilty.
Why did you choose to marry him then?
Why did you make kids with a violent person, making the situation 100 times worse
How did the guy on this video get away with the abuse? lol
@@rmunoz93 that's your opinion
This is a very confusing case.
What I don’t understand is why the nurses and doctors didn’t get police involved when she reported her injuries. Isn’t this the protocol?
I think they call it... "Mandatory Reporter" duty. I was wondering the same thing. 48 Hours didn't explain at all.
She is a liar
because she was lying. Othwerwise you would be correct an this video would have been over in one minute.
Mandatory reporting only applies to at risk adults (elderly & disabled) and children. They cannot make a report without suspicion that the children were being abused too.
@@oliviacarter8540 that's not true. Each state has their own guidlines however NATIONALLY this is the guideline all must follow and it has nothing to do with children. She claimed she was burned by her husband, she lied. This is current. 2023
The health care practitioner must know or suspect on reasonable grounds that a wound or physical injury occurred as a result of abuse from a spouse or cohabitant. Healthcare practitioners must report to law enforcement other types of injuries as well.
"She could've just left" says every person who has never been a victim of domestic violence. It is not that easy! I believe you, Nikki
This story is very disturbing. I have a lot of family members who have experienced Domestic Violence from their partners and have experienced awful trauma. The reports of the abuse she received was familiar to the abuse my relatives went through. Plus, listening to the Prosecutor was disgusting. She has no idea and her inability to understand those who have experienced DV is treacherous. The statement of Nikki just leaving, that is not how it works, there is so much more than just saying you are going to leave. Ugh, this episode make me sick. One of my aunts tried to "just leave", but she was killed by just trying to leave. Her evil husband is in prison. Its a lot easier said than done, and those who believe its simple... they are truly clueless. Also, her evil husband was the nicest person to those around him, he wanted to become a pillar in his community, but to my aunt, his kids, and a few of my relatives, he was rancid and absolutely evil.
My ex-husband (who I was married to for 20 years) always went “above and beyond for everyone”.. except his own family! When I finally got the courage to leave, it was with the knowledge that I may die doing it. Abusers are master manipulators and are able to hide things extremely well. The abused are controlled by fear and, unless you have lived it, no one could ever understand the prison that the victim is in and why they don’t just leave.
Whatever, lol!
@@WhiteAngloSaxonyou took that personally. Why?
My daughter is going through exactly all that right now.
@@Softanddramaticbecause he/ she is probably one of those abusers that she's talking about. A guilty conscience needs no accuser.
@@SoftanddramaticHis sin betrayed him, no matter how macho he is, his conscience is more powerful and makes him flee from his own reality.
This is exactly why victims don’t report. This is exactly why victims are so scared to speak up. This is a huge set back in society.
She knows the situation,I wouldn't be surprised if she knew the status of the DV victims and used it as for real victims the situation that Carlee Russell did a couple of weeks ago just makes it harder for any victim to come forward she faked her own kidnapping because she was fired and stole from her employer check out the story in Alabama so many times the narcissist "victims win" and then later are found out they lied check out Leticia Staunch good example of a lying thing.
Yes and no. This is a huge setback, absolutely, but it also shines a light into the very real fact that there are women who are as bad if not worse than men about this. The double edged sword of this is that one has to admit human nature is all too often vile in the mos subtle and insidious ways.
@@Panwere36 Are there women who are "as bad if not worse" yes. Was this one of them? No. Not to mention that the vast majority of these cases are men against women. If you ask me, it's a symptom of society not allowing men to be human - no crying, no emotions... what is bound to happen is psychopathy. Doesn't excuse the dogs who do this, but it is a place to start - raising sons to understand that they can be human and feel and daughters not to be nice if someone starts showing red flags.
Advice to ALL humans: when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.
@@Madamegato, the problem here is it is still up for debate whether or not the abuse actually happened. Also, how can men "show their emotions" when we have reached a stage where feminism is so militant that men are totally disregarded as even being human?
This case only muddies the waters more, and for multiple reasons.
Listen , everyone lies, we have to go with the evidence
My ex was a wonderful person to the world. They have a huge community in the karate world and was a karate instructor themselves.
But behind close door, in our apartment they have shoved me against the wall, throw weights at me when I was sleeping, tried to drown me in the pool and pushed me down the stairs causing stitches to my knee. They even charmed the doctors to say I was a klutz and fell off my bike.
When I finally left them, my best friend actually believed them and said I was being a drama queen.
Abusers have a way of being charismatic, funny, loving to the outside world.. they knew what they did was wrong and knew all the manipulations to hide it from the world.
What the defense attorney said at the end
"If someone could be disregarded as a victim with the amount of evidences that we got, what about the people without these evidences?"
That broke my heart for all the domestic abuse victims out there.
abusers are great at hiding in plain sight. Glad you’re out of the situation and he’s an ex ❤ my heart goes out to you.
For the Prosecutor to say "she created all this.." UTTER STUPIDITY 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
moms who are in denial of the fact that their children can do any wrong are the ones who raise and enable abusers like this. how can anyone be so naive? JUSTICE FOR NICOLE!
She killed her husband. As far as you know, she’s the bad guy here. This whole “always believe women” thing is nonsense. Men and women are equally as dangerous, that’s reality.
Not my child! Lol
Don't blame the woman here.
@@joen8529 you probably want somebody to sit n go back and forth with u 😭 keep scrolling and trying bc it wont be me 🫶🏾
@@joen8529that statistics dont support that at all my guy.
The night my sister had likely had enough and told her husband she was leaving, he pulled out the gun she had hidden from him and he shot her in the chest - in front of her 16 year old daughter (my niece).
There was very little evidence of abuse.
I am sickened by this particular case because too many people stood up for Nikki and did what they could to help her.
One of the last times my sister visited me she was acting odd and had driven over an hour to come see me.
She put on a good show and seemed happy. I didn't realize she was just needing to escape the environment she was in.
She had a lot of makeup on that day but said she was on her way to work but had decided at the last minute to call out sick because she was having an anxiety attack.
Looking back, I think she was hiding.
Her husband didn't know where I lived.
She went home that day, but
within 6 months and just 4 days before Christmas, she was dead.
It only came out after her death that she had been enduring so much abuse.
I miss her every day.
Edit: I would like to add that I believe Nikki - I meant to add that SO many people stood up for her that I feel it should have made the prosecutor rethink her position.
I feel strongly that my sister would have ended up in the same boat as Nikki had she endured it for as long as Nikki did.
My sister was so embarrassed by the "situation" and truly didn't know how to get out of there.
This IS the mindset that an abuser has towards their partner.
Where would my sister have gone?
She sold her house and moved in with this man (who I should clarify was her husband, but I don't like to) and the abuse came on strong after she moved in with him. He really poured on the love in the beginning and we all thought (at first) that he was too good to be true.
Everybody thought he was such a "great guy".
Abuse does happen like this often.
Too often.
I’m very sorry for your loss 💔
I am so sorry for your loss! How awful. I certainly didn’t hear anything in Nikki’s story that doesn’t say DV.
I'm so sorry for the loss of your sister.
She should’ve left without saying a word
Why didn’t she take the money from the sale of her house and come stay with you? He didn’t know where you lived…? Sadly…in a situation like hers, I wonder if she thought she could change him and stayed because she loved him so much. I don’t blame your sister, I blame the murderer. But it does make you wonder why women put up with this.
People belittling her and calling her a liar while praising the abuser made my blood boil so much I couldn't watch the program till the end. Absolutely disgusting!
Is anyone else wondering how she supposedly bit herself in the back?! 🤦🏼♀️
u can have intense sex without it beeing abuse.
@@hanspetersen8831really that sense are you?? To put such an obtuse comment, when this woman experienced so much medically documented reports of R*pe. Seriously
I really hate when the victims are not believed until THEY ARE dead.. 😢
Right? And they're still dragging Chris's name thru the mud...
Indeed. Poor Chris.
@mentesinquietas9712 It is not an "excuse". They are TERRIFIED of their abuser. And, may I ask you: when is it most likely that women in abusive relationships get killed? WHEN THEY TRY TO LEAVE.
@@asbisi She doesn't look terrified to me.
Nikki is a monster!!!
I don’t understand why they always say she could have left. It’s not that easy. It’s very dangerous.
I can’t stand that woman prosecuter.
That’s why there restraining orders
@@r.amezquita6289 they don’t work. We all know that.
I left an abusive relationship. I was threatened and stalked. There was no way I could have gotten a restraining order. He was a very prominent member of our community. But I did leave a message on the sheriff’s personal cell phone that if something happened to me he did it. What did the sheriff do? Called him immediately and told him.
Then he said I was having some mental problems and had them put out a BOLO on me. I was stopped about 30 minutes from the state border. I was detained in handcuffs, taken to the hospital and Baker Acted.
I’ve left the state and he now has a state park named after him.
Rich and powerful can get away with a lot.
@r.amezquita6289 speaking from experience, to an abuser, a restraining order is just a piece of paper. It doesn't stop a bullet and it certainly doesn't stop the mental and emotional abuse.
This prosecutor abuses her too… She goes too far, I think she gets to the personal side.
@@r.amezquita6289 watch obessesion or stalked. Its basically 2 series dedicated to stalkers. Restraining orders are basically useless.
Oh this made me sooooo disgusted!!!! That lady saying we need to take care of the real victims, oh she needs to really walk in a woman of domestic violence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And his mom, you think your son is going to say mom I beat my wife!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
After watching this, I Googled to see when she's eligible for parole & read that she was released on Jan 3rd!!! I wept with Joy.
I as a man have been a victim of abuse - I absolutely believe she is the victim. Unless anyone has been the victim of an abuser there's no way to understand how manipulative the abuser can be. This woman was made a victim the second time by the system. The boyfriend was accused more than once - did he complain to anyone about the false allegations?
The difference is that this woman is lying. You all are crazy to blindly believe a murderer. She just lied in order to justify her actions.
@@scottandrews947 BS
i have never been a victom of an abuser but i understand. it really isn't rocket science
@@scottandrews947have you ever been in an abusive relationship? I would love to know.
@@scottandrews947I've been in several abusive relationships, been put in the hospital etc. She's telling the truth. Good God. He even posted videos of her on P hub. Get help.
“She could just leave” is a punch on my own stomach, I know I couldn’t “just leave”. That is disgusting.
Why couldn't you?
right?! as if she could leave, she would lose her kids, her house, her reputation. it's not so easy to leave. esp if he was stopping her.
the i was beaten excuse has been played to much by females , they lie a lot, its a big problem
@garethconey9603 you realize most women who are killed in domestic violence, are killed right after leaving?
No, you don't. Don't speak to things you know nothing about. Stop blaming women for the bad behavior of men.
@@anonymoose116 except she made it up and couldnt keep the story straight who raped her and abused her,
How would you bite your own back?
People say she had her kids do it.. ridiculous
I've been in this situation with the father of my children. The abuse started after I gave birth to my oldest daughter. I naively stayed with him and got pregnant with our twins and the abuse continued, to include graping me when i was 8 mths pregnant. He pulled a gun on me during both pregnancies and held a knife to my throat when i was 2 mths postpartum. Yes, I called the police a few times but he was never detained long. I knew that i was going to end up unaliving him and I was too embarrassed to tell anyone of the abuse. I finally left and never looked back. Why is her story hard to believe? Self defense at the moment, maybe not, but she was abused.
I remember we told my cousin the same thing… “just leave him”
She did and unfortunately he murdered her😔
I'm so sorry. It happened to my aunt when she tried to leave. It could have and almost happened to me more than once. I'm so happy to be free and safe now
Wow I am so sorry. I pray for peace and for liberty. I wish we lived in a world void of (sexual) violence against women and in an equal playing field.
I’m sorry 🌹
Sorry for you lost ❤
Only because she lied, covered up and protected him. Had she left, pressed charges and not gone back she may still be alive... let the truth be told because you don't know the whole story.. (she did not tell you that) she may had done something to him that you all don't know about that provoked him. Not trying to sound cold but women need to be held accountable for this nonsense.
People don't understand narcisstic abuse, they are nice outdoors, in home they are monsters. My ex burned me multiple times, I would be crying in pain. My heart goes out to her
Exactly! She was definitely a narcissist. She was gaslighting everyone around her about her fake abuse and Chris had no idea the whole time. She is evil
They're called covert narcassist. IMO, the most dangerous kind. People would have been surprised if they had put a secret camera or voice recorder in our house. What he showed those he wanted to impress like friends etc he was one way & away from them, totally different. He fooled most but not my lawyer who did my divorce for free & was part of the same religion &church as him.
Where's the proof he was a narcissist?? Everything is from her mouth, he's dead , and cannot say anything , I think Nicole is psycho.. she spent her time making up crap cause she's bizarre
@@Vaseholly exactly!!!!
the OP was saying he was the narcissist @@Vaseholly
Do people understand that an abuser will of course go out of their way to appear so loving and mild mannered in public to cover up their closed door behaviors?? How dumb are people?
The prosecution is about 2 decades behind understanding the dynamic of Domestic Violence. This was one of the most triggering things I've watched in ages. The prosecution in this case failed. "She had a car, she could have left" as example. "Nicky was worried CPS would take her children" as another victim blaming statement by the Pros.
I think I am going to have to take some time off of watching cases because this was truly disgusting and disappointing. I don’t understand how the jury could make the deliberation that they did. She literally had bruises and burns on her body. Even in death the abuser got away with his crimes. How sick.
And to think it was a woman prosecutor is laughable
As a victim myself, the people and prosecutors saying what they said, is ALL the more reason why we DON'T report it or come forward. Why should we when the abuser gets vindication and we lose our lives or go to jail?!?!?!? Y'all are making it harder for people like us to ever want to come forward or get help. You don't know how hard it is, until you live it. And, I'm a firm believer in, they need to experience it, before they get any kind of say about it. Just because someone is good in most areas of public perception, doesn't mean they're the same way behind closed doors.
Two words Amber Heard.
18:18 She says "My son never hurt anybody. And that's the bottom line." How could she say that with all the DOCUMENTED evidence over years of abuse. So many documents from medical facilities showing the abuse against her.
Women like who are common in these cases. I personally know women who are like that with their grown sons. Who excuse and deny and justify their sons abhorrent behavior and that is the hill they choose to die on. In general, it's so common for the parents of murderers to excuse the murderer's actions, which is just something i've noticed in watching so much true crime. I always take what the parent say with an absolute grain of salt.
@@sfletch3042yep
@@sfletch3042 very few moms could ever admit their sons beat a woman.
i had a gf lie about abuse that does happen the da looks at all the texts and evidence she was not the stable one
Because the mother was/is clearly very enabling and in denial.
I don`t know. There`s something about her that just rubs me the wrong way. Something. Something. 😔😕
Agreed
agreed
Me too. Dating a Police Officer is one good way to learn how to create a Timeline of Abuse, and document evidence of DV. We do not know Who bit, and abused her. It is possible that another Man was hurting her to create evidence to use for reporting abuse against her husband. I have seen enough of these stories to know. She had chances to leave while he was at work, sleeping, and she could have taken the children to a friend's house, but shot him while he was sleeping instead? I could be wrong, but these are my thoughts after watching this.
This is horrible…. The system got it soooo wrong. She was clearly a victim of abuse. Sends a horrible message to other women 😢
"My son never hurts anybody" yeah right, every parent thinks their child is smart.
Exactly
Nikki planned it. Most likely for insurance.
This episode just brought me to tears! So many memories flooding back. Just wanted to mention, the most dangerous time a victim of DV, is when they leave. Saying she had access to resources, a vehicle, etc. is just BS. I was in a severe physical and sexually abusive relationship for 5 years. Always lived in apartments, but only once was law enforcement ever called. It’s not as easy to leave, as the prosecutor alludes to. In a lot of states, a victim needs to press charges. This is something I would never, and didn’t, do.The fury that would of come after he was released, would of been phenomenal. Not sure if the prosecutor gets it. By the way, my State of Oregon takes the responsibility from the victim’s, giving it to the State’s responsibility to press charges.
By the way, everyone loved my abuser. “He’s such a great guy! You are so lucky to have him!” I became an expert at hiding the abuse. Too afraid to speak the real truth. Sorry friends and family, but they don’t always show it. Why would they? They don’t want to be shown in a bad light, especially in front of their family and friends.
not sure what you're talking about... what exactly kept you from leaving? what was physically keeping you there?
@@craigime Fear.
@@gaylegoodman9097 is that really an excuse? you could have literally got up when he wasn't looking, got in your car and left. absolutely nothing was keeping you there. everybody has fear- it's not a literal physical bear trap keeping you in place
@@craigimenot understanding is ok. You're not expected to. What's not ok is invalidating people's experiences - espec traumatic ones. If you didn't mean to simply invalidate, for no good reason, and you're actually trying to understand, there's so much information about this sort of thing online. A simple google search will get you started. What Gayle said is true - the fear is paralysing, but I'd also add: the trauma bond, and the risk that people won't believe you, and he'll still have shared custody or visitation rights with your kids. So the fear of them being alone with him - abusers also know this and leverage it to force you to stay
@@lessavocadotoast5927 what exactly did i say that was wrong?
That prosecutor obviously is clueless about the dynamics & psychological of domestic abuse. Abusers don’t abuse everyone… jekel & hide.
I have been abused by different people throughout my lifetime, from the age of 5 to 36 years old. I have C-PTSD and feel like I will never be normal. I stay in turmoil everyday. My latest abuser was my second ex-husband who's a Marine. The judge in our case gave him everything he wanted. While my first husband was physically, mentally and emotionally abusive. My second husband was not physically abusive but he is a master at mentally and emotionally abuse. I never really told anyone in detail what he would do because I knew nothing would be done, especially since there was no physical abuse other than sexual assault. My 3 daughters witnessed this abuse firsthand and endured his emotional abuse as well but I would take his anger into me so he would leave them alone. I wasn't allowed to work or finish school to better myself to easily get out. It wasn't until he decided that he wanted another woman that he let me go but made sure I left with absolutely nothing but the clothes I had. Once he threw me out of our home, he moved the woman he was cheating on me with 2 weeks later. My story is long and painful and I had absolutely no one to turn to. I reached out to several organizations for legal help to fight him but because I had no money, no one cared. I begged for help. The fact that a person can treat people like he did and get away with it is seriously wrong.
The medical records says it all 🤷🏻♀️ This case just shows that people don't understand domestic violence.
Perhaps. Do the medical records prove who did the violence ?
@@bobgillis1137 no. my query is why didn't she try and cover up her wounds like any other DV victim when she was at her friends wedding? Seems a bit sus to me.
some of the medical evidence was not submitted as part of the court case though. The Midwife report was not allowed. Harder for the jury to choose in her favour if the evidence points more towards her as the instigator, whether that's true or not.
They also do not understand the power an abuser has over the victim's mind and choices... a form of brainwashing.
@@LeeAnnahsCreations I'm sure they do, however, victims would want to cover up their scars and wounds, but she didn't. that is very sus. Also, unfortunately, these days, there are a lot of women who do lie about domestic abuse. I myself have known someone who has, so there's good reason to be sceptical.
My ex husband was beloved in the community. He also beat me until I was in a coma, one of a 15 yr history of abuse. The cops were never any help to me and I have zero pics of the abuse.
Leaving was the worst part ever. Every single time I tried to do it I was punished harshly.
That prosecutor should pull it together and realize how sick and twisted she is. I cannot believe how she puts words into others mouths and twists the story. It’s disgusting and shameful. She makes me sick to my stomach
I don't know how people like her sleep at night. Does she actually believe what she's saying...??? If so, there is something seriously sick and wrong with her too. Same with the mother.
"She had the whole day to leave, why didn't she leave?" made me say some choice words.
Actually she was just doing her job perfectly. Don’t you think those women in jury heard all this information too ? Loud and clear ! Add The judge to the list ! Don’t you think he just killed a man and lied about self defense?
She killed an innocent man..and here u are defending her
@@BigStarworldheaven He was an abuser!
I feel bad for this young lady… I was victim of an abusive relationship this case really took a crappy turn! I always said nobody would never believe me and the law made my statement very TRUE!! No justice was served here 😠
Lmao. She belongs in jail
@@wa2k99 maybe you belong too
This mother of the abuser is delusional. She actually believes she knew her son better than his partner. No way! Only a person intimate with an abuser knows what they are capable of doing. Abuser's often have a reputation for being the nicest, most kind, funny, wonderful person alive. But that's the face they show to the outside world. The ugly, violent face is the one the victim knows.
No the people defending with Nicole are delusional.
@@jwil2414 - whatever the truth of the matter is with regard to blame in this particular case the original poster is right in so far as the adult you are in an intimate relationship with is not the same adult that a mother, or father, knows, and knew from birth.
When kids hit their teens they generally start to keep parts of their life separate from their parents. Additionally their parents, not unnaturally, tend to have a biased and positive view of them. Many parents can't be objective about their kids through ignorance of who they become as adults and the bias natural to those who brought them up from innocent new borns to young adults.
Many, if not most mothers of abusers were also abused. I know someone that married an abuser and confront his mother who said, "that is just the cross you have to bare just like I have been doing married to his father". How do you think an abuser learns that behavior?
@@jwil2414the evidence shows otherwise. It was very documented and some of those injuries she could not inflict on herself. The appellate court agreed. He was a violent abuser and got exactly what he deserved kinda. His mother is beyond delusional.
@@outofcompliance1639I can disprove this theory. My oldest son beat the crap out of his ex, and he grew up in a 100% abusive free home!
Also, I grew up in a non abusive household.
This feels a lot like a “I’d rather believe a liar than an abuser” situation. Sending my support to anybody experiencing DV in the comments 💜
My life has been a nightmare since I was 19 due to domestic violence and the police sided with abusers 7/10 times PERIOD. And they know it
@@user-us9ti6wt8u I’m sorry to hear that, I hope things will get better for you. And I couldn’t agree more
@@clarissa2972 thank you. No one understands when children are involved how hard it is.
@@user-us9ti6wt8uYou stay strong and make an exit plan to the best of your ability, you can do it! Do whatever you have to do to protect yourself in your children and get away from the abusive pos safely and quietly. Don't let him know you're leaving. It took me years but I finally did it. I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel and my kids and I are happier than we've ever been. I wish safety and peace and health and happiness for all abuse victims and their children❤
@@user-us9ti6wt8u Are you scared he'll harm your kids? That happens a lot. Jesus is coming back. Believe He died for your sins and rose again then repent to be saved.
As a DV survivor, who even after 12 years is still suffering from in resolved trauma…I can attest that no one would have believed me, even when I finally was able to leave, my own mother told me “well, you never said anything.” Abuse from a narcissist is the most calculated and manipulative form of abuse. I honestly am disgusted with how this case was handled and that she even spent 1 day in jail. The message this gives is the reason DV victims are afraid to leave, and when they do, they likely die.
Wow! Just because u dont see a person being mean does not make you certain of how he is at home..
My dad was seemed like the perfect father by most of my moms family. To even tell her to go back with him once she finally left him…
It was my sisters and i who finally convinced her of leaving our father.
The stuff we saw and went through.
i'm sorry, you're not alone. this is why we should believe victims.
many women lie this is the big problem
No one but those that live with you will know what you go through at home. We have a saying in Spanish that says “caras vemos corazones no sabemos” which means “we see faces not hearts”
True that.
Exactly! In general: Parents, friends and others have absolutely no idea how someone close to them handles romantic relationships. How could they? They haven't experienced his or her explosive, jealous rage and coercive control, because he or she has no need to control them. People have no idea about what goes on behind closed doors.
I've been in the same situation for 15 years and counting and all of these comments are making me feel like I'm definitely not alone. Thank you for sharing! ❤
15 years?! I'm sorry but that's just sick to willingly stay abused. It's not impossible to leave especially with all of the resources and support for victims these days
Don’t listen to this other comment. They don’t know what they’re talking about. Stay strong, create a strong network of support of friends, family or a local non profit. Do what you can to survive. ❤ much love to you
@@MandyMermaid13 Sooo in other words exactly what I said is available lmao make it make sense child
@lonerebeI it's all in the tone. You come off as victim blaming and argumentative instead of helpful.
@@Marlaina I don't care what I "come off as" to you. Nothing I've said is false sooo
If she was scared of him as much as she makes it seem .. how was she able to text him calling him stupid etc
When someone is physically stronger than you and hurts you words are often the only thing you can use to fight back
At the very least, she killed him with a muzzle to the head and had lots of allegations about seemingly every man she encountered
I actually can't believe this woman wasn't believed 💔 I was a victim of abuse and I can't even begin to tell you how terrified I was to leave. People have no idea how emotional and mental abuse disables you. My mother in law said I was a liar too! Everyone found my ex husband to be charming and friendly and the abuse always escalates after a baby has arrived because once you have their child they have more of a hold over you and now the system is depriving her children of their mother. This is a heart breaking story 💔
She was cheating with a married man. 👎
She accused nearly every man she was physical with of R so, and he had no one from the past accuse him, he didn't do the horizontal dance until a year later ???
As a DV survivor I completely believe her nobody ever believed me until I was granted a restraining order it wasn’t easy it’s very hard to get away from a situation like this and to prove that what your saying is true. Everyone thought he was the nicest person ever when in reality he was a monster.
You're biased. You can't see objectively.
I don't believe her and I'm a survivor as well
@@Odawg292002🤦♂️
@@hotmessexpress7056🤦♂️
If she could have multiple affairs , it is hard to believe that she couldnt leave because of fear. Then there is muzzle print on entry wound to skull,exactly as google searches were found,about shooting someone asleep in head,medulla . Self defence shot can be to leg abdomen and then she can leave. No doubt chris may ve been abuser, but she wasnt afraid to hook up with a cop .
One way to check an abuser is look at the abusers parents..alot of times its learned by watching their parents fight this way😢
My ex husband came from a broken home. His alcoholic father took him to a bar at age 12. The man died in a ditch somewhere. His mother was never around because she had to work three jobs to keep the house. In the meantime his sister had the opportunity to sexually abuse him, he says. When she stopped he had an incestuous relationship with one of his cousins. As a 20 year old little girl I had no idea he was extremely damaged by all of these events in his life. He seemed to have it together, he was nice, polite etc.
I agree with the person who said girls need to be taught about all these factors and not trigonometry. Well, maybe both.
His mother even looks nasty an abusive. Thats probably where he got his violence from. Notice how angry she is, not saddened an mournful.
Angry because her son was murdered by a scummy lier.
From my own experience of DV abuse, I can say the only people who knew of what went on in the marital home was our children and my close friends. Everyone else saw a lovely guy who was wonderful. Our boys used to call his persona in the outside world "Wonder Greg" but obviously only amongst us 3
Agreed - it's preposterous hearing randoms who were coached by him or work colleagues say that he's innocent and couldn't possibly have done anything wrong.
And if the prosecution's case is at least in part based on the proposition that she could have left at any time then, knowing what the reality is when women leave abusive relationships, its utterly fraudulent and simplistic.
Same here, my ex was the life of the party, charming handsome, funny intelligent but when he snapped he was gone. Almost killed multiple times. Had to leave early in the morning and spend 5 months in a dv shelter. Some people saw it others were blinded by his shining charm and gift of manipulation and word play. I believe her and she had enough took her chance and ran.
Took me 8 years to leave.
@@simonw1313the case is based on the evidence that she is a manipulating cheater who only cares about her own image. She’s a cold blooded murderer and deserves to rot in jail for the rest of her days
@@johnpierce1470 - there seemed to be at least reasonable doubt that that was the case. And - to repeat - asserting that she could have left at any time, as the judge and prosecutor did, is simplistic nonsense that betrays real ignorance about how domestic violence plays out in the real world.
As the victim of DV the part that struck me the most were his supporters. The perpetrators always come accross normal and often kind. They aren't generally running around screaming that they manipulate, harm, and assault people. All of my exes friends thought I was nuts and he was a Saint. It's part of the abuse process.
Yup! Abusers deliberately act nice in front of others. It further isolates the victim.
You're biased. You can't see objectively.
That's cool
Exactly. And they’re putting some innocent, naive teenage girl as evidence that he’s “safe”? SMH.
My ex girlfriend used to beat me, but act innocent around family and friends. 👊🩸
1st time ive heard this story, i vote NOT GUILTY.
When they refused her a lower sentence, I KNEW, the judge and the prosecutor were colleagues.
Shameful!
What a monster this guy was! Glad he is no longer with us.
Everyone in my family, family friends, and even my sister's and brother in law 's friends thought my brother in law was the most wonderful person around. We were all wrong. We didn't realize what my sister was going through. Until she left him. The real person came out. He lashed out at everyone in the most horrible way.
Tell your sister distance herself. These abusers are crazy and scary.
What did he do???❓❓❓
My mom-decades ago-called these people “street angels and house devils”
Lmfao
I’m still not convinced she’s guilty. At least her sentence was dropped to 7.5 years so when she gets out she can still have time with her children while they’re still children.
As a survivor of mental , emotional abuse & very little physical but threats of it , cameras in my bathroom I found after 1.5 years of live feed going to his phone & threats to call my employers , DSS , & making me work to 100 % support our sons & now turning my sons completely against me , his family & even my own friends I can tell you People can hide it very well . I will never forget coming home w/ twin baby boys after having a C- Section , taking care of them day & night had to be rushed to the ER as my visiting nurse thought I was going to have a stroke , making me sleep on the floor next to his bed & throwing a beer can at my head while holding my 3 month old son in my arms it’s almost impossible to leave due to hiding money etc , even called the IRS & hid my green card , controlling & constant texts throughout every day . I’m in Immigraint without family in this country , finally left after 17 years of trying to leave . The police officers wrote in report I may be lying , I almost lost my mind .
“ The boys will HATE YOU those words hurt the most.
I warn every woman & man going through this , LEAVE they will NEVER CHANGE !!!
That's horrible..u survived because God was there..🙏are u seeking help now ?
The "man" who financially, sexually & emotionally abused me for 4 years was charming and popular when we weren't alone. They didnt see me try to jump out of a 2 storey window to escape him, or him trying to run me over. Some saw him headlock me in a car and drive off with me threatening to leave me in the mountains but are too afraid to ever speak of it.
Thanks for not shooting him in the head, I guess?
@@joez.2794🤣🤣🤣
If they say there are real victims out there that needs help, why isn’t she one of them? Do you really need to be in a morgue to be believed?? This is insane, and as a survivor myself that was never believed by the system, I’m angry and sick to my stomach
Well it really messes up peoples' perception of who the victim is when the "victim" blows her husband's brains out
Chris is in the morgue. Nobody believes him? Except the jurors, and a handful of other people still capable of critical thought...
I bet you got smack or snatched up in front of someone! How did she grab the gun from him!
They always say there's help out there, trust me, there is no help. If you can't get out, you're out of luck.
Your small brain can't comprehend that a victim can snap and realize that it's either them or the abuser who will survive? That the abuse builds up until they can't handle it anymore??? Try to open your mind.
My mother was abusive to us our whole childhood and in public she would portray her kids as horrible, unthankful brats. Meanwhile we were so scared of her, humble and so very shy because we had zero self confidence. My mother would tell us for years that we are nothing, we are useless, ugly stupid kids and we will never do anything useful with our life. Growing up as a child I didn’t know that there are families with loving parents until I saw how my cousins and friends were treated. They were treated with love, kindness and respect. I am writing this because no one believed us (kids). 😢no one protected us from the evil person who suppose to love, protect and nurture. It was so painful when the outside world blamed the kids, saying why aren’t you listening to your mom. I was able to get away from the abuser as an adult. She had no more control over me. She got mad one day and said to me that I am no longer her child. I cut all ties with her!!! Don’t let people tell you. Oh! But it’s your mom, you only have one mom. No, she is a bully and an abuser. Get away from these people as soon as you can and as far as possible.
I am so sorry you had to go through all that with your mom 😢 no child deserves that kind of treatment! Especially by your own mother! I get it tho, my mom wasn’t a very good mom either and I cut ties…
I hope you’ve healed or are on your healing journey!! ❤ You got this!!
Amen
Similar response to persistent emotional/verbal abuse; there usually are several half-hearted false starts towards trying to leave; this mostly in an effort to influence the abuser to stop his/her destructive behaviour.
All you have to do is to take a look at the footage of Gabby Petitos entanglement with the cops to see that victims become really skilled at hiding any evidence of DV (to the point of blaming themselves to justify it). And then take another look at Brian's (her abuser) interaction with those same cops, to see just how easy and effortlessly he was able to explain the whole incident away, to the point where cops were joking with him and making light of the situation. And, she didnt even have any physical evidence or a history of evidence on her, at all, in her case.
what does that have to do with this?
@@craigime it has everything to do with just how convincing a person can be to outsmart even cops trained to look for signs of DV, but especially the friends and family of those around them. They are extremely convincing. It also proves that she was right in her assumption that she won't be believed, even with the history of burns and bruising she had as evidence to back it all up.
@@kdfree91this is assuming the abused has no one to confide to.
The woman here clearly had many friends and begrudgingly confided to one. At some point you have to be an adult and tell someone who will listen.
The ones who are truly in peril are kids that have abusers as parents. They literally have nowhere else to go and will lie in order to not be put in the system.
Well she was not that innocent either!
She obviously pushed him so much with her behavior that eventually he snapped! I am not taking his side but she acted like mentally not stable and she could easily left when the cops separated them .she decided to pick him up and continue the journey with him. So it was toxic from both sides
@@craigimeit shows the inherent bias and general lack of education among law enforcement and the justice system as a whole when it comes to domestic violence and abuse.
My step father was an abusive monster at home and out in the world everyone loved him and his students thought he was the best teacher ever.
y did mom marry him?!
I feel you on this. Same with my dad. Sickening, isn't it? God bless you friend.❤
This case is so sickening and heartbreaking. Men like him should not be alive. And his parents in prison.
This is a weird case where it feels like everyone is lying. I can't even tell. I'd have to look at all of the evidence, not just the little bits presented here. Her side sounds exaggerated at least, while the mother of the victim claiming her son "never hurt anyone in his lie" doesn't sound likely for a man who has problems with his temper. He would've at least got in fights as a kid or teen. When both sides aren't credible I really need the whole of the evidence to make a decision.
I agree but I also believe with the evidence we can maybe say it is a multi factorial case where abusive relationships (maybe from both parts but specially from him to her) make her get in a state of mind where there was not other ending on her mind, it is a typical reaction of the human being when being abused at high levels of stress.
I agree this is tough
Agree! I want to believe her but there is no actual evidence to prove her claim. The evidence she presents can easily been done by someone else. That report that names Chris made me doubt, but then again, was his dna taken to prove it was him? No. That is where the case fails and if she was a victim, then they failed her by not taking his dna to prove her claims. A lot of women out there are manipulated and lie because they know they are more likely to be believed.
Exactly, it's not impossible for women to lie or enhance their defense
I agree, I can’t tell who is lying either and I’m a victim of DV. Something about her stories..I would never have had the balls to send texts messages that would trigger my ex to do something to me (considering her claim that she was scared for her life…that part didn’t make sense). I hid my bruises and did not display them like she did in all her photos. It was as if she was trying to be obvious about it. I also never sought for help until I was finally ready to leave. If she was brave enough to go to the hospital to report him multiple times, what was stopping her from leaving? It’s very confusing to say the least.. .
Yeah. My ex was a "pilar of the community" and "loved by all" and nearly unalived me and our children more than once.
His mom would say she knew him best, and her golden boy would never do that.
But he did. For years. So there's that. There are so many women in prison for defending themselves and/or their children in DV situations.
How many abusers smack their own mothers around? That's not a common occurrence.
watch the whole video before embarrassing yourself, she murdered him in cold blood and she was the one who was abusive to him.
So many ladies here sharing what they went through, I was a victim, my ex abuser went to court and cry made himself look good.
They are masters of manipulation, that's why they are calm in a court and looks good. But theirs victim cryies and shakes, and judges thinks : She is crazy. He is innocent. 🤦🏻♀️🤯😖
Wow she was actually just released this week. Nuts
She has a pattern. She will eventually do that again. Gone Girl.
So pleased to hear they reduced her sentence. Nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors. Nobody, including family. Wishing Nicole and her babies all the best.
They actually just released her I think in January of this year.
What about the real victim who was shot dead in his sleep. U don't wish him anything?!
My father physically and mentally abused me for years. I’ve always wanted to leave. There were even times when I already packed my things and prepared to leave our house. But every single time the fear of getting caught and found by my parents and experience even more abuse always kept me to stay. The fear that the abuser inflicts on their victims is so traumatizing that they inflict mental fear even if they’re not around. You get so scared you can’t even move. I couldn’t tell anyone because one, I was scared no one would believe because my parents have always given me everything a child could need and more. 2nd, I had trust issues because of how he made me feel. I couldn’t find it in my heart to tell anyone about such a tragic and dark secret in my life, especially since my father has always been a saint towards others. I thought, no one will definitely believe me. And 3rd, stupid as it may sound, but I loved my father and mother even after all that abuse that I still thought about not inflicting shame on them if I exposed my father’s abusive behavior. But when I finally realized either I die by his hands or try my might to escape even if he kills me, that’s when I finally had the courage to choose my life and try by telling a relative and other people close to me. Out of 4 people I told, only 2 of them believed and offered to help me. If they hadn’t, I would still be living in that nightmare. Not even sure if I’m still alive typing today or lying in my grave by the hands of my father, the truth covered and stories against me made up by my parents. So for people like this prosecutor, I only pray that you find it in your hearts to listen and believe and not judge, especially if you’ve never experienced abuse before in your life, because a single word more so a decision like this, could either lose a life or save it.
And to anyone reading this currently experiencing abuse from anyone close to you..I pray that you find it in your heart to muster up courage and to finally choose yourself. Before it all ends the other way… God bless you.
May the Lord bless you and heal you in mind and body.
i believe her. This is terrible. The abuser's mother raised a monster. The worst people behind doors are "wonderful" in public.
I am not siding on anyone but as a woman, but I do believe that in our society, if a woman gets victimised, everyone will immediately act, but when it's a man who is a victim most people will have doubts
Hello fellow Tuesday morning 48 Hours folks!
This was a hard one...my sister was a sociopath. People thought she was amazing, but the family knew better. Her husband was the abused one. He was a cop and a foot taller than her. She had claimed rape, never filed charges since it was her husband's supervisor, but it was an extramarital affair. But if you didn't know her, you would believe her.
Plays both ways. But if we ask your sister, I believe she would call you crazy too, right?
@@WILMA_well yeah, that's what crazy people say about others
@@WILMA_- What an odd thing to say.
@@RachelRichardsThat's her sister. Lol
I'm surprised that you're pouring dirt on your sister, it rarely happens, especially coming from a family member, maybe you've got special feelings to your in law, GOK, 😮😢
He’s where he should! She’s free and deserves nothing but the best!
Every parent thinks they know their son because he wasn’t raised in that environment but just like alot of cases the facade goes away behind the confines of their own home.
I am so sick and tired of hearing people say why didn’t they leave when domestic abuse is involved
Then you should probably log off the internet. People are gonna explore all options, including the one where women can be the manipulators.
@@jeffc1753 when did I say I believed her. I stated that I hate when domestic violence is involved people always say “just leave”
@@missstargazer9174just leave is a perfectly good option to implore. Just leave!!!? It’s not 1950.
@@SanketKulkarni10 have you ever been a victim or domestic abuse ?
@@willdiesel8431 - it's not just a case of random people on the internet (who are hardly exploring all options but stating it as if it's an obvious fact that people can - at no risk - leave abusive relationships). In this case Nicoles not leaving is being used by the prosecution as proof she wasn't being abused. That's clearly ignorant rubbish.