Who Are The DUMBEST Sports Card Investors?
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- čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
- A look at the sports card market, recent sales, and top influencers in the space.
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Growing weed (legally) is a much better investment than Kyler Murray
Smoking weed is a better investment than Kyler Murray
We’ll see how legal everything is. I’m calling the cops
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Weed won the war on drugs!! Go weed!
Illegal weed is much..more profitable...
Thank you for exposing these idiots further. Gary Vee had been unheard from since he said LeBron chrome base rookies were a steal at $17K and the sports card investor is just an opportunist. Don’t get me started on Ken Goldin.
🤣🤣🤣 at the guy comparing Julio to Mantle 🤦🏼♂️🙄
Comparing ANY rookie to a top 10 player of all-time is STUPID AF!! I definitely don’t need to analyze Mantle’s stats to know that 🤣
@@kareempies4341 you only joined CZcams 1 year ago so I’ll assume you’re new to card collecting as well. Have fun getting BURNED!
Guys overspending on rookies or upside guys is an age old adage
Micky Mantle=Mike trout
Jrod not even close
@@305CardCollector Any one of them could be better. But this speculation is how the scam is built. It's not that far fetched to think Julio could be that good by the time he retires. But it's perhaps less far fetched to think that he could get hit by a bus within the next 24 months and never play again. Dropping big money on rookies and prospects is basically going all in with a good hand before the flop in poker, and you might have lost your money already once you see those first cards turn. Something can very easily screw up your whole plan.
I keep buying those $1-$5 rookie/prospect auto cards. Been doing real well flipping as they make a little bump. I’ll keep making $200-$300 a week as side hustle. While collecting in my favorite hobby.
Okay but what are you making after fees and initial investment... honestly
I resale for a living. So you won’t get rich selling low price cards on eBay, but I make after shipping, cost of cards, fees is $6-$10. With 5-10 transactions a day. It’s a nice addition to what I already do and I enjoy cards.
Quite honestly its only a matter of time before ppl realize that 95% of cards aren’t long term investments but rather get rich quick flip scams.
For prospects the prices are already baked in for multiple championships and greatness so when 99% of them fall short of that, what happens??
Moral of the story if u hit something big in a break or pull from a box, sell immediately !
Most cards would still go down regardless of winning championships they're that overvalued.
People are dumb to invest heavily in any prospects. They are already priced to be a HOF player and soon as they struggle so does the prices of their cards
I’m glad I learned my lesson back in the days of Todd Van Poppel, Kevin Mass, and Ben McDonald. Nothing is guaranteed in sports.
Haha, Brien Taylor is gonna be worth a ton of dough any day now!
Lol. I was just looking at those exact cards a few weeks ago. Remembering when I got them as a kid. Man were they a miss.
Hope these prices keep dropping like a lead balloon. Hopefully soon prices will be geared toward actual collectors and not these brain dead "investors and breakers".
@@kareempies4341 why do you dummies just assume that people who enjoy prices coming down are broke? 🤪
Who doesn't want to spend less regardless of how much they make? Nearly all cards are going way down people are smart to be on the side lines knowing what's likely to come. Doesn't mean they're broke. Some of you make odd assumptions.
@@kareempies4341 if you're collecting you welcome cheaper prices who wants to pay more? Remember the pandemic distorted card prices 99% of all high end stuff will likely go down for years to come. The sooner they get cheaper better time for people to buy for their collection who wants to spend more on cards then they have to? Its just a fun hobby for self care cheaper the better 🤷♂️
@@kareempies4341 Ah no. I'm not broke. I buy cards to collect. I'm not one of those idiots that sees cards as an investment. I can afford to buy the more expensive ones, but why bother. I don't like them. I collect for fun, not for the money. Only fools do that like your buddy Geoff Wilson.
I don't really get this. The sports cad market is pretty tiered for the most part. If you just buy cards raw or as graded 8's or 9's they quickly become pretty affordable. Though I will say that I think new unopened wax is a bit too expensive for what you are really getting....but people keep buying it. I think Fanatics might be getting a lesson that it can't just print a product to the moon and expect it to fly off the shelves. There's no way that they aren't going to be sitting on a whole heck of a lot of 2023 Series 1 for a loooong time.
@@Kbunk_Youth_Football_Wrestling oh fanatics will make a mess of things i think. Theyre off to an awful start.
Had to buy my mom dollar store gifts for Mother's Day because my ultra modern basketball card investment portfolio dipped. She told me to get out of her life. I could not afford good beer to cure my sadness.
Dip
Bud Light?
Having a local minor league team is one of best summer activities period. Sooo much fun watching young players at affordable prices! Prolly hit up a few games this week!
Julio not even close to Ken Griffey Jr. & you think he'll be better than the Mick? 🤣👌
That's not what they're saying, other ppl believe that though is what they're saying
So glad I just kept collecting instead of focusing on “investing” this is what I preach to my students at our mini trade nights. I love buying my 54 Hanks and keeping them in my safe. Nobody is going to pass Hank in RBIs anytime soon.
@@kareempies4341 If you do not sell it can’t be considered an investment more of a collection to look at over the years.
@@kareempies4341 no he's collecting for the long haul with no plan to resell..not investment mindset in my opinion
@@kareempies4341 I collect the 54 Hank Aaron bc as a kid I watched the movie sandlot. In the movie the babe visits Benny and asks for the Hank Aaron card which is ironic to baseball history and the movie because of the HR Record. I collect bc I like the card lol.
@@sarahandbrettSCAM I've collected since I bought my first pack in 1969. And I always say I'm just a collector but in the back of my mind, I know my cards are worth a ton, so deep down I'm both a collector and an investor. I think most of us "collectors" are also "investors"
@@888strummer yea that's fine. I have some highly valued too
People are Morants for paying these prices. I never touch Bud light. They have way better beer at Grocery Outlet!
I remember people freaking out about some guy named Ben Simmons, how did that turn out? 😂
It's not just a drop on price it's just getting to where they should be. Influencers are the ones driving up prices.
anyone spending 100k on a card needs to go see a doctor asap 😂
@@kareempies4341 its no assumption on anyone's income. Hell i make more than 200k a year. I've never spent more than $1500 on a card. Its just a card. $100k on any card seems bizarre they're nearly all going way down too.
Ja’s market is done IMHO. People will forgive once, but when you do it again, they’ll walk…
I have julio, Witt and volpe on my fantasy team and I’m in last. Good times!
Vee sold his 1000 psa 10 rookie prizm luka’s don’t care what he says. Geoff is the one spending all his wife’s money
Going forward it would be nice to see data pre covid to today's numbers on cards. The few you mentioned date back to 2020 numbers, I think you are spot on with the balance point. I've been at this for decades, and see these roller coaster numbers and if you watch the live take this from SCR, you make your money when you buy things in life. ✌🏽⚾️🇺🇲
1992 Topps, I'm 11 years old, me and my pals searched all summer looking for "that one card"... we used candy money to buy packs... I tried to complete that set... we never found a Brien Taylor and he never pitched an inning in the majors... learned so much that year about collecting... at the end of summer my parents bought me the complete set because they saw how much I was working on building it... still have it... worth like 5 bucks LOL
When it comes to Ben Simmons, I’m buying! 🤪
Leave some for me,wink,wink
Hey man…I want my 2020 Covid money back so I can spend it wisely this time and not have to hide cards from my wife. At least I didn’t buy Zion.
I collect all of these young players(yes even chase them...its fun to follow them as i watch the games), but you wont catch me chasing the high end singles or buying graded slabs of these guys - what i pull is what i got and thats good enough for me. Don't care about the value of the cards!
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spot on
I feel exactly the same way. Whatever, I pull that's nice. I submit it myself
@@kareempies4341 I open plenty of wax and i have most of the cards that i care to own, i just follow two principles - first, dont buy high-end, hit-oriented, low EV products(or just dont buy panini) and two, buy singles, especially raw singles. To me, raw cards are just as good as anything not in gem mt condition. I'm not a condition-sensitive collector, nor am i a speculator.
@@kareempies4341 Why is money always the focus of so many in the hobby? There are so many collecting goals that you could have that doesnt involve a large sum of money. If I dont have all of those cheap cards that i collect that no one else cares about that i care to collect, then to me it doesnt matter if I have a high value collection or not.
As for the financial value of those low numbered, high end cards you mention, well those are the cards that have crashed hard in recent times. I dont buy overvalued, overpriced cards that others are speculating on.
When is Geoff Wilson coming with the Ja Morant best investment video?
I am BUYING. He's 4x the investment of Will Grier
This is the Best sports card channel on CZcams…..maybe ever, so much fun watching it
I don’t agree . Yes the red /5 a few people are paying ridiculous amounts for, but all these guys are young give them some time because their base chrome went on a certain percentage that doesn’t mean anything
If ja doesn't win something, he might be the biggest flop of all time (given he has same or more athletic ability/talent than trae, Luka and Zion)
Always enjoy the content and perspective. Really enjoy that you’ve been to 500-1000 games…the three full baseball season range just makes me laugh. As always I am not 100% sure if that was a shot at other idiots or you were just so fired up you stumbled a little bit. Over 500 games is insane and I’m a little jealous.
That Gretzky was likely trimmed, that's why it dipped so low
Watch how many fools jump into the dodger Oatman!!! Guy is like 25 . No way he is a solid Hof er but man ,u remember Puig!!!!! Jajajaja jajaja jajaja people about to lose their shirts !!!😆😆😆
To be fair everyone hunting for Druw Jones bc of the bounty for the Superfractor but every Bowman Product has that one player everyone hyped about. I still remember the hype for Austin Martin 1st Bowman Autos at release.
You guys live out in the cuts, not the ghetto part of Stockton!
What the Hell is going on out there! Crazy 😜!! People are losing 10” s of thousands of dollars on stupid prospecting 📉
Only idiots prospect. 99% of those guys go the way of Mickey Moniak
The difference between Geoff and Gary is that Gary went away and Geoff wants so badly to continue being a celebrity in this hobby. You are spot on with this episode.
That why he's the Sports Card Infestor. He has infested this hobby with his BS
Gary just switched to NFTs and tried to bullshit a whole diff group of people.
out of those 1986 Fleer Basketball cases I got at that yard sale, I already got 21 Jordans and they are mint, the man kept hem in his closet at grandmas, and I got them, for $20.00 for both cases, I'm still freaking out and wondering what to do about selling them.
He sold you 1986 Fleer cases for $20 each?
Even vintage mantles are dipping. Not rly many cards in the hobby that are going up in value. There is no reason for them to go up and won’t be for a long time
that's what happens when they break out old cards, trim them, and pay a grader to upgrade their printed number. seriously, check out the pop on any old cards that are dipping and you'll probably see pretty unusual spikes.
geoff wilson marked the pop in the bubble. sports card investor? lol. and a family man, too? nah, its all a con to build a brand and marked peak sports cards. sports cards are a seamy, slimy biz and now we are in the crash. more PPP needed!!!!!!!!!!!
Vintage sports shack says brady allen went 1-2, 1 hr, 2 walks... 1 error... he's definitely a hitter, needs work on fielding, big right field arm too...
Ja Morant… his stuff will be worthless by this time next year
In my opinion most cards are good for quick flips, few cards are worth a long term hold. Most people taking Ls are the ones who held on to all those cards instead of flipping them when the price was at its highest.
It's strange seeing the prices on these guys who are barely legal to drink.
How are so many people spending 100s of thousands of dollars on cardboard in this economy?
Followed Geoff until he started telling giving advise on what card to buy/sell. What? I thought this was a hobby and if you make money, good for you but telling people what cards to “buy”, “sell” and “hold” is just nuts to me! So many probably lost their shirt and left the hobby because of it where really the opposite needed to happen.
They are both goofballs but Geoff so more unlikeable.
$100,000 for any card is just not smart.
I think a lot of people were "spoiled" by the recent "early" successes of young players Acuna Jr, Vlad Jr, Tatis Jr, Juan Soto, Yordon Alvarez, etc. What the last few years has taught us is all baseball players struggle at times. Baseball is by far the hardest sport to be great at. Its even harder to predict. Every year the "experts" put out a top-100 prospect list and few of them ever even make it to MLB, let alone have success.
You, along with about 90% of the hobby are clueless, Ronald Acuna Jr is the best player in baseball. I go to shows and all these dealers scoff at him whenever he’s mentioned.
@@RWorfel1 WTF are you talking about?! I just listed a bunch of players who were incredible at a very young age. Including Acuna. I certainly wouldn't say he's the best player in baseball, but he's probably top-10. Perhaps you should work on your reading comprehension before calling someone "clueless" because at this point I have more evidence of you being illiterate.
The Will Grier shout will always make me laugh ! 😂
I’ve been out of active collecting for about 13 years; when did rookie cards of prospect go so far through the roof? In 2010, a low numbered card hardly added anything over the value of a regular car. Now it seems to throw them into ridiculous high prices considering their still in diapers. Are people really that gullible? I’ve got a bridge over Brooklyn for sale…..
But I thought cards were never going to go below pre-pandemic prices. Lol. If the economy goes bad we'll to see some historic drops. Bring on the popcorn as people lose their butts.
It's going lower too
I ❤️ it! You guy's at Sports Cards Radio RULE! Thank you for the HONESTY it's so refreshing to hear someone speaking out about all the 🤡 's who are ruining the hobby I ❤️
Only buying graded vintage,fck all this high pop modern, even numbered sht has every color in the rainbow
Hopefully that piss water cleared the railing. Don't need your property value mirroring the card market.
The baby face assassin's that have been annihilating your card budget 😂
Gary and Geoff are masters at selling shovels.
I don't care about the investment part of Witt's cards. I'm a Royals fan. Relax on Witt. He's 22. The potential is there. He's already very good defensively and a great base stealer. The bat will be there in a year or two. As for Julio, I've seen enough Mariners games the past year to know the talent is absolutely there to be a superstar. Obviously, most top prospects flop. It's been like that forever. But I wouldn't be giving up on Julio or Witt. Writing them off at age 22 is silly. Coming up at a young age and mashing like Trout and Pujols did is extremely rare.
M's fan. The game changed a lot this year, our team not so much. Not in many positive ways. Teoscar is a great add, JK finally showing up is a great development, but Wong and Pollock were always question marks to me and they're proving why. Team is looking good in binges, as if the offensive coaches can't quite decide on how to handle games. These guys (and therefore Julio as well) are suffering whenever that needle swings too far toward aggression and swinging the bat, and their stats look abysmal because of it. But when they're patient, they can produce even against the best pitchers. I had the same reaction to his comment, thus it is not supposed to be about who they are now but who they are expected to become. Julio can reach the stars. But you never know what life is going to bring you, which makes it really dumb that people would spend so much money. A gator could eat one of his arms and one of his legs tomorrow. It could have already happened! Then what's that card gonna be worth? Eh, well if it was _that_ story maybe it would go up, but you know what I mean. :)
I'm like 99% sure you gain a couple hundred followers with the truly 'pour one out for the homies' bit lmfao 😂😂😂😂
Just like I told you guys a few months ago, card prices are 90% hype 10% card, 😂
Just the pandemic thing.Just because you "could" get 90s cards graded and "call" those high $$ cards doesn't mean there were still 10 million worthless cards out there!
Y'all are the best, but that petty ish "Watermelon Kiwi - Truly" lol. EPIC SIMPLY EPIC... keep it up, I'm hooked!
They’re gonna tell u BuY THe DiPpp
What goes around comes around. Bought a case 1990 Fleer Basketball 33 years ago for $750. Burn me once. Oh, can you say Beanie Babies.
Dude your shit is funny AF. Trolling that one dude who was hyped on Ben Simmons. I don't have a crystal ball, but have played more competitive hoops that him. Simmons never had a jumper to begin with, and couldn't see him having much success solely on boards & assists.
Great channel , almost spit out my coffee listening.
Good time to buy then if prices are low?
Does anyone know why the Yankees 1966 team card w/ Mickey Mantle only sells for $5??
Love every single Video you and your brother make!
Sincerely,
Will Grier
Good content/drama. Look forward to the next one!
It baffles me that you have to pay $40 more for a Julio BC PSA 10 than a Wander. Julio is STILL overpriced and should be around $50
Wow; there is some serious money being lost by many wealthy people the past 2 years. Cards dropping from $100 k to $15k is a huge drop. I only collect vintage from the '50's and '60's and into the early '70's and 1 thing I notice about this video is that he didn't have 1 example of a vintage card dropping. So when he says in video that baseball is down 5%; maybe modern is down 25% and vintage is up 20%
Admittedly, I am buying into breaks in attempt to hit a big Druw Jones card. Likely to immediately sell rather than hold. We shall see…
More muckraking from the jackoffs at SCR! Keep up the good work!
Any chance Ja Morant cards will be a great buy when he gets suspended a half a season and they fall off a clip? If you have the capital to hold them until he comes back and hopefully has his head on straight
Straight up guy, respect that brother.
Ummm nearly everyone who bought high end cards the last few years. That was the time to sell most cards 🤓
Joe Charboneau to the moon baby! (the best part is, 99 out of 100 people who think that Julio Rodriguez is 1/100th of Mickey Mantle have NO clue who Joe Charboneau is/was) TOP SHOTS NFTS LIQUID GOLD.
@@kareempies4341 Children that have seen 10 years of sport and think their generation has all the answers are even more so. Juan Soto to the moon! Do you know what SportsNet was? Just curious as to your experience. IL291
So glad I have never strayed and have collected for fun since 1980. Prospect wise there have only been a few to hit it big right away in baseball history. Don't waste your money on Bowman
Excellent burn video as always. Only baseball worth having as an investment is vintage, which is overpriced and impossible to find/grade decent, so good luck
What do you think of Spencer Jones, big 6 ft 7 Yankees prospect. He's been playing great. They say he has potential to be left handed Aaron Judge 🤔
Another good video. I just don't get these Bowman cards. People pay for the hype. I remember the Jasson Dominguez craze 3 years ago was the same as the Druw Jones craze now. I'll pay for MLB performance, not hype.
I collect.
lmao. I'm totally not sitting here ripping a Bowman jumbo looking for a Druw Jones. I mean, I watch this show. Why would I totally be doing that??
What’s your take on Justin Henry Malloy??
All these red arrows make me so happy!!
plenty of prospects went up alot even before covid, I had alot of tatis and vlad jr, had the bowman chrome blue auto jersey number for both 9.5 10, you just have to be smart and sell at a decent time
@@kareempies4341 its called collecting you dummy. Its a hobby. There's not much focus on money if you're collecting what you enjoy
@@kareempies4341 hey Richard. I wasn't worried about investing in cards. Which is why I sold $5.00 cards for $100. To help buy more of MY PC CARDS. I don't care about $ all I wanted to do is help buy more cards I wanted. What do you collect or invest in?
You guys just helping out wilson. Gary vee acts like he came from struggle but he didn't
Shout to Orange Mound, Binghamton, North North Memphis! Tuck your chains in your shirts, guard yo grills, it’s about to go down. Dip !
Julio could end up being in the same class as Mickey and I'm sure that's what these people are basically saying to sell the cards. But let's say he ends up being twice as good as Mickey... there will have been thousands or millions of times more copies made of his rookie cards. Throwing down big dough on overprinted cardboard honoring players whose futures you can't predict is a straight up blind gamble and I honestly don't know who to root for whenever someone is buying one. If that seller doesn't engage in a lot of bullshit deceptive behavior, I think I'm rooting for them to get the payoff. Anyone stupid enough to gamble with that much money deserves to lose it, especially when the prize is a shiny slice of cardboard.
The beer pour 😂😂😂
Haven’t heard much of Jeff’s lawsuit lately lol
Oh man, after a short vacation…. I’m really hoping I make the list! Haha
Well it depends, Mantle worked out a ton by drinking… Does Julio also work out that way?
Who’s the dumbest? Those that are still thinking it can be used as an “investment” instead of a hobby!
I’m buying cards back at 1/3 the price of what I sold them for in 2021. I actually kinda feel bad on some of them😬
TO BE FAIR… Montana (you said you’re betting on recently) autographs don’t really appreciate at all… I struggled to sell a PSA Montana auto on eBay for $80+… his autos just haven’t really gone up in value at all in this he last decade… graded cards may differ…
JROD being 21, & being a legitimate 5 tool player probably is a decent investment… however, I wouldn’t INVEST in him over Mantle/Jordan/Brady if I had 50k to drop… so fair enough… but he really does have a everything (including personality) to become a mega star.
Ohtani is the one I think people should be more cautious of. They’re too caught up in the now. He came over way too late. His numbers in the end just won’t push him into the ‘all time’ talk outside of specific short periods of time. He also won’t stay a 2 way for many more years. By probably 32-33 he will hit or pitch full time.
He really won’t have a shot at over 350+ homers. While JROD has a shot at 30+ HR a year for the next 15 years.
I’m not betting on Montana. He was my favorite player growing up.
Loving the ASU hat! LFG Devils!
Is it too late to unload my Jerome Walton 1989 Upper Deck collection?
1:10 - still an amazing card
*** I feel like when he says “Luka Doncic” he is pointing at me somehow.
But Luka did just beat out Curry for all-NBA 1st team.
Meaning the coaches and players have voted Luka best PG in the NBA.
Also I get the issue, west coast players do get a lot less coverage than a East Coast player.
I mean what is Alonso hitting? .234? And he is projected to be the starting at 1B for the NL team. As a Mets fan, I hate Alonso and his lack of hitting with runners on base.
You are also talking about a LOT of K/BB ratio, or average in general, and it seems like average is just not as important in baseball anymore compared to the ground ball/fly ball ratio.
If ya follow BB over the years? You can finds numerous ROY players who would have lost ya a bunch if invested in like Joe Charboneau, Ron Kittle, Jerome Walton, Pat Listach, Bob Hamelin, Jason Jennings....just to name a few. I got caught up in the "rookie craze" in the early 90s. Luckily the cards were cheap back then - and no - no one was sending them to PSA back then. It's a great hobby. Investment? My dad taught me: if can't afford to lose? Ya can't afford to win. Thanx for the video guys. 👍
They are all smart, They make bank regardless lol
Yes, and we are the dumb ones for listening to them 😂