Agree; these are very wealthy people hooked on gambling buying these modern cards for 5 figures. They hope the player has a good september so they can flip the card for a 25% profit
I’ve been collecting for the past 43 years, what’s going on now isn’t collecting, it’s a scam to take people's money. I’m done with all this stuff and looking to find a hobby that empowers me like exercising more instead of cracking packs on my ass
I'm older and have only ever collected vintage. Back in 1969 when I bought my first packs of cards it was 5 cards for 5 cents. I'm blown away by what people pay now. And I agree with exoticworldreview that it is a scam today. It really is just gambling to buy modern cards and hope the player has a good month so as to flip for 20% more. The vintage cards are retired players whose values are all set and they move up or down 5 or 10% each year. And for us older folks bring back great memories
You mean from 3-4 years ago that almost all had their moment to sell for profit? You do realize almost every card in all sports end up going way down. 99.8% all go down and all of them have a high point.
In 10 years, 99% of cards will be pennies on the dollar. There is NO reason to spend more than $200 on any prospect card, when you can buy HOF cards for a fraction (and much lower pops)
I laugh, because it’s obvious that the drama in the hobby is primarily pouring out from people who continually dump money into ultra-modern and get their ***es handed to them. Lining up to gamble on breaks, while constantly getting dipped on would make me cranky too.
Look at QBs from 2010s .. they are basically giveaways compared to todays prices .. most of these cards will become worthless. Influencers are glorified company propagandists
I was told to buy Franco RC's by all my friends .. and I am launching lawsuits against each and every one of them for all they have plus punitive damages for having the courage to mislead me and my family. In all seriousness, the Geoff Wilson clips make him look goofy as hell. Ryan Finley is a beast.
Ohtani is the only ultra modern baseball player to buy IMO. My rule is that I don't speculate more than 1-2 players per sport per generation. There's only 1-2 guys per sport that really appreciate every generation. I see Ohtani as that player in baseball so I wouldn't bother buying anyone else
@@sp123 Mike Trout is a good buy and hold. He could retire now and, would be a hall of famer. A 4th MVP, though would be the second most in MLB history...only to Barry Bonds, who was helped by PEDS.
Are there really a lot of “young people “ with basically 10k+ to flush down toilet? The media tells me young ppl are poor and can’t pay their student loans.
Guilty or not, he will never recover. Never owned a Wander card. Never bought anyone based on hype. It's a lot easier if you actually like the players you're "investing" in. Paying for cards based on potential is nuts.
The idiocy in the Geoff Wilson system is that he's not giving investment advice. Hes giving sport commentary. His "investment" strategy seems to be "buy players who might become starters or good players". That's fine i suppose, but then he tells you which players to buy, like he knows anything about sports. He knows less than most average fans. Why anyone would think he knows anything about which players might be good, ill never know
Anybody that listens to that moron deserves to lose money. What sane person invests in BACK-UP QB`s because they MIGHT start a game sometime in their career.
This is the strategy of any flipper/so called investor. There's only so many starters and if there is the slight chance someone will become one, they will skyrocket. As soon as they get in there and suck, it will drop. If you are quick to move these cards, you'll be able to find a sucker
I don't buy singles so no worries on my end. I buy all topps products, no hobby box over $160 . I have done pretty good this way. Recently hit a green shimmer auto of Spencer Jones bowman 1st chrome out of $30 blaster. I hit a Trey Lance optic downtown rc out a $20 hanger. All my big hits come from low dollar buys. I have no big hits from hobby this year. I have done much better sticking with $20 hangers and $30 blasters. Collect what you like and u can't go wrong. Of course I would like a return on investment but I do it for the fun of hobby.
while the numbers look good on paper, the reality is, the low price level, and the associated expense and time of selling, the net proceeds usually end up at around min wage or less for the investment/effort. Need to up the price level, so the net after expenses makes your time/effort actually worthwhile.
Geoff Wilson knows absolutely nothing about football let alone investing in cardboard!!! Investing in back up quarterbacks is the dumbest thing I have ever heard!
Last week i pulled a wander rookie auto redemption from a donruss hanger box.... Its getting delivered today the day all this stuff is comming out LOL just my luck.
damn, he got a hot start and I saw his PSA rookie cards were like less than $14 a card. I bought like 30 PSA 9 wander franco cards. I was lucky that i bought like only $300 investment. i still got 100+ rookie auto of CJ Beathard, 50+ rookie auto of joe williams (49ers 2018 fourth round rb), didn't even have 1 NFL carry?!?!?! 80+ rookie of auto Jacob Harris, the 6'5" with freakish measurable skills that ranked among NFL draftee elites. I have so many busts!!!
People are responsible for their own decisions. If they are that influenced by a total stranger on the Internet then maybe they deserve to lose their shirt. A fool and his money soon shall part.
Out of those 4 cards im taking the Desmond Ridder for that price all day. I think Ridder is gonna be a very good player this year and ongoing with a young good falcons team.
While it's not a rare card, it's still his true rookie card. Not like Juan Soto, Ronald Acuana, Ohtani, and Aaron Judge who have like, 50 plus different rookies, so I disagree the Ryan, rookie card will go down much, but I guess time will tell.
I can't even wrap my mind around dropping 10-12k per card on these QB's, and I mainly collect football. I'd be adding on-card Michael Jordan Exquisite autos, etc. instead of burning money on these guys, especially now.
Don’t get me wrong, I love Kenny Pickett. I’m a Pitt alum so I’m 1 million percent biased BUT no way am I buying any card of his for $10,000! Give me the TLaw all day (that said, I’m not spending $10k on any card let alone an ultra modern card). Great stuff as always!
Glad the only Franco cards I bought were base PSA 10's of Bowman and Topps that I got for around 20 bucks each when everyone was buyin Julio Rodriguez. Million dollar player with a 10 cent head.
I do agree any of these younger Hot Stars in these super high expensive PSA10, BGS 9.5 whatever Chrome Refractor auto cards are a big risk & possibly a big frisk. Wait until they at least have played a few years and have a good track record on and off the field. I like sports to. I don't have to invest in all that. Buy a $10 poster of your favorite player.
Thank god the Rays have depth at the SS position that other teams would kill to have. Basabe has looked good so far, Carson Williams is moving up the organization quickly and Junior Caminero is an absolute stud in Montgomery, so if any team was prepared for an unfortunate situation like this, they were without a doubt.
And as the news broke yesterday, it was Wander Franco Snapback Hat Giveaway Day for all fans 14 years old and under at the Trop. Oh, the irony. Luckily I stick to buying David Justice and Chipper Jones for the PC, Justice doesn't have any value and Chipper doesn't have a ton.
Card People who are ok with grown adults who like to be around children are the same ones who are ok with athletes being with underage ones……….interesting 😳
Every time I hear the word ‘investment’ associated with sports card collecting I cringe. The two words don’t go together. Good on you if you make a few bucks or even enough bucks to live a good life, but it’s the rare few who truly make a living out of a passion for collecting sports cards. Been collecting for almost 50-years now and seen the markets moving every which way.
Will grier looked good in preseason 😂
Looking like he may have locked down that 3rd string.
he did lol
“he maybe in the big league majors but he doesnt wander from the minors” 😂😂😂😂
@@christopherspalmerA paycheck is a paycheck
Kyle Allen, Ray Finley, Teddy Bridgewater and Will Grier combined for 6 touchdown passes last year...
All my high $ cards are vintage HOFers. Anybody paying $78K for a modern day player needs their head examined.
Agree; these are very wealthy people hooked on gambling buying these modern cards for 5 figures. They hope the player has a good september so they can flip the card for a 25% profit
I’ve been collecting for the past 43 years, what’s going on now isn’t collecting, it’s a scam to take people's money. I’m done with all this stuff and looking to find a hobby that empowers me like exercising more instead of cracking packs on my ass
Yea pretty much . a fool born every minute i feel bad for a lot of them
Legos…I started building Lego sets. Takes up time. Fun to display and if it has a lighting kit even better. 😂
I'm sick of this modern day card circus & all of the clowns.
Don't stop collecting!
Collect what you like,forget the hype!
I'm older and have only ever collected vintage. Back in 1969 when I bought my first packs of cards it was 5 cards for 5 cents. I'm blown away by what people pay now. And I agree with exoticworldreview that it is a scam today. It really is just gambling to buy modern cards and hope the player has a good month so as to flip for 20% more. The vintage cards are retired players whose values are all set and they move up or down 5 or 10% each year. And for us older folks bring back great memories
Holy shit, those Geoff Wilson predictions are unreal. Literally every name he mentioned was or turned into garbage.
Best part is these could be from 3 years ago or yesterday. Its impossible to tell the takes are that bad
Jim Cramer of sportscards
About as good of odds on buying a Powerball ticket. Just go buy a whole bunch of backup QB's and hope one of them turns into something.
You mean from 3-4 years ago that almost all had their moment to sell for profit? You do realize almost every card in all sports end up going way down. 99.8% all go down and all of them have a high point.
@@jcbuckeye Always amazes me to see Geoff Wilson stans
In 10 years, 99% of cards will be pennies on the dollar. There is NO reason to spend more than $200 on any prospect card, when you can buy HOF cards for a fraction (and much lower pops)
And!!! AUTO’d half the time at that!…
It's impressive how wrong Geoff is.......ALL THE TIME...
At least he is consistent
sho nuff is @@tommylabors
Jealous much?
He doesn't have to be right. He just has to convince people he is.
@@richardrobin5837 Simp influencers much?
I laugh, because it’s obvious that the drama in the hobby is primarily pouring out from people who continually dump money into ultra-modern and get their ***es handed to them. Lining up to gamble on breaks, while constantly getting dipped on would make me cranky too.
I think people that pay $10K+ for a freakin card are completely nuts. I don't care how much money you have.
Guys, It's Ryan Finley Time!
Look at QBs from 2010s .. they are basically giveaways compared to todays prices .. most of these cards will become worthless. Influencers are glorified company propagandists
I believe that the Ryan Finley and Will Grier's dual patch RPA is four times more of an investment than Kyler Murray. 😂 😂 😂
I was told to buy Franco RC's by all my friends .. and I am launching lawsuits against each and every one of them for all they have plus punitive damages for having the courage to mislead me and my family. In all seriousness, the Geoff Wilson clips make him look goofy as hell. Ryan Finley is a beast.
Lol
Ohtani is the only ultra modern baseball player to buy IMO. My rule is that I don't speculate more than 1-2 players per sport per generation. There's only 1-2 guys per sport that really appreciate every generation. I see Ohtani as that player in baseball so I wouldn't bother buying anyone else
@@sp123 Mike Trout is a good buy and hold. He could retire now and, would be a hall of famer. A 4th MVP, though would be the second most in MLB history...only to Barry Bonds, who was helped by PEDS.
The female in question has a 2 year old kid and drives and go to clubs. More like 22-25
Are there really a lot of “young people “ with basically 10k+ to flush down toilet? The media tells me young ppl are poor and can’t pay their student loans.
intersting aint it? cuz they spending mommy n daddys money
exactly got to take out a bank loan to afford most of them now including flagships@@ozsportscardcollector2.512
Guilty or not, he will never recover. Never owned a Wander card. Never bought anyone based on hype. It's a lot easier if you actually like the players you're "investing" in. Paying for cards based on potential is nuts.
This is why I only collect Jordan. His legacy is cemented as a top 5 athlete of all time.
Right now i think Will Grier is about a 10x better investment than 52 Mickey Mantles.........
This Geoff Wilson advice on players is so bad that it's like he's faking, but he's dead serious, lmao
The idiocy in the Geoff Wilson system is that he's not giving investment advice. Hes giving sport commentary. His "investment" strategy seems to be "buy players who might become starters or good players". That's fine i suppose, but then he tells you which players to buy, like he knows anything about sports. He knows less than most average fans. Why anyone would think he knows anything about which players might be good, ill never know
He should just stick to buying Florida Gators cards. The rest he is just taking potshots, as he has the money to do so.
Anybody that listens to that moron deserves to lose money. What sane person invests in BACK-UP QB`s because they MIGHT start a game sometime in their career.
This is the strategy of any flipper/so called investor. There's only so many starters and if there is the slight chance someone will become one, they will skyrocket. As soon as they get in there and suck, it will drop. If you are quick to move these cards, you'll be able to find a sucker
The R Kelly had me dying 😂😂😂
Geoff still hasn't learned that he is speculating and not investing?! Wow, the thumbnail to this video couldn't be more accurate.
"I'm not perfect with my predictions, even though I've actually done pretty well so far". 🤥
I don't buy singles so no worries on my end. I buy all topps products, no hobby box over $160 . I have done pretty good this way. Recently hit a green shimmer auto of Spencer Jones bowman 1st chrome out of $30 blaster. I hit a Trey Lance optic downtown rc out a $20 hanger. All my big hits come from low dollar buys. I have no big hits from hobby this year. I have done much better sticking with $20 hangers and $30 blasters. Collect what you like and u can't go wrong. Of course I would like a return on investment but I do it for the fun of hobby.
while the numbers look good on paper,
the reality is, the low price level,
and the associated expense and time of selling,
the net proceeds usually end up at around min wage
or less for the investment/effort.
Need to up the price level,
so the net after expenses makes your time/effort
actually worthwhile.
I totally agree...You don't have to buy singles...with the print run..on Franco cards.
Just open a couple packs.
Hangers..are bangers!
"I buy all Topps products" Topps Optic must be a new launch. I'll be on the lookout for it.
@Jonas-ue6ep I have picked up few optic blasters but since I heard Panini don't take care of redemption I refuse to buy products anymore.
Geoff Wilson knows absolutely nothing about football let alone investing in cardboard!!! Investing in back up quarterbacks is the dumbest thing I have ever heard!
Ryan Finley time needs to be a new classic cutaway quote
Last week i pulled a wander rookie auto redemption from a donruss hanger box....
Its getting delivered today the day all this stuff is comming out LOL just my luck.
thats why we love the hobby
Remember....... remember the Punt God Matt Araiza.. just saying
I invested in Wander because his stock was cheap last year after his surgery, was hoping he'd bounce back this year... wasn't expecting this...
damn, he got a hot start and I saw his PSA rookie cards were like less than $14 a card. I bought like 30 PSA 9 wander franco cards. I was lucky that i bought like only $300 investment. i still got 100+ rookie auto of CJ Beathard, 50+ rookie auto of joe williams (49ers 2018 fourth round rb), didn't even have 1 NFL carry?!?!?! 80+ rookie of auto Jacob Harris, the 6'5" with freakish measurable skills that ranked among NFL draftee elites. I have so many busts!!!
😹😹😹😹
thats most of the hobby lol@@ninersnation3298
@@ninersnation3298It happens to all of us. Bet on what you can afford to lose.
The accuser is likely not 14 so we’ll see what happens to his market.
These young upcoming players are so overhyped. The media is to blame as well as Geoff Wilson and other social media influencers.
buy shohei now!
Just wait till the Elly cards crash, also Zach gelof will be the next artificially hyped player everyone's starts buying up.
People are responsible for their own decisions. If they are that influenced by a total stranger on the Internet then maybe they deserve to lose their shirt. A fool and his money soon shall part.
Ohtani is the only guy to buy this generation. Buying Wander last year was like buying Carmelo over LeBron
Listen people, NEVER EVER spend huge amount of money on young unproven stars!!!!! Pleaseeeeee, unless you just dont like money!!
I'll bet Geoff has a huge box full of Will Grier and Ryan Finley etc
…box? More like an entire walk-in closet!
i asked him at national. he sold em all for 99$ 😂😂😂
lolol@@jamesnguyen_1
Don’t know why you all hate Geoff. He actually wants good for our hobby. Unlike whoever this rando preaching this crap is.
Congrats on the pick-ups - Payton & Ryan very cool and good flips long term, Already done with my football qb moves. Thanks for the updates.
Oh boy. If the rumors are true Franco's cards will be worth nothing. He will never play an mlb game ever again.
You just saved my fantasy ball club this week making me aware of the Franco news. Much appreciated 👏
I would have the Lawrence RPA hands down
Justin Herbert is a mid player 😅
His cards are worth like 10% of his recent highs. Years from now they will sell around there
How much money was just deleted out of the sports card market with the Wander news?? 🤣
ask geoff wilson
Wow, Geoff Wilson has no idea what he is talking about 👎😩
That Walter Payton is sick!!
Stick with vintage and known commodities. You'll be much happier in the long-run.
I was crying laughing mid way when you told people to call Geoff and wife. Lolol
Since your Layton revelation I definitely notice a change in the once “all great” atmosphere
F’ em
Keep up the good work
Went through boxes of my cards & found a small lot of cards to send to BGS. 2 of them were WF cards but luckily nothing expensive 🤣
Out of those 4 cards im taking the Desmond Ridder for that price all day. I think Ridder is gonna be a very good player this year and ongoing with a young good falcons team.
Just remember the equation and you will be fine.
WG = KM x 4
Wander better go find a tractor for his apology tour.
I've got $2m to spend. I think I'll buy 4 Michael Jordan Fleer 86 PSA 10's and sell them for $20m in six months.
Society is paying over 10k-200k for cardboard should be a crime
Geoff Wilson is the Jim Cramer of the sportscard world
SELL SELL SELL
NOW BUY BUY
Gotta get the OPC, Milton, or Venny Ryan. The normal rookie is going to go down a bit still. It’s such an easy card to find.
While it's not a rare card, it's still his true rookie card. Not like Juan Soto, Ronald Acuana, Ohtani, and Aaron Judge who have like, 50 plus different rookies, so I disagree the Ryan, rookie card will go down much, but I guess time will tell.
Vintage sports shack says "Don't be stupid"!!!!
Thank you guys for everything you do bringing all the shady s*** to light!
Good move on the SGAs! im getting a stack of autos authenticated atm. a few rookies and a few numbered. Thunder on the way up!
These Geoff Wilson clips are gold!!!
G-dub reminds me of "Dorf on Card Collecting"..
I can't even wrap my mind around dropping 10-12k per card on these QB's, and I mainly collect football. I'd be adding on-card Michael Jordan Exquisite autos, etc. instead of burning money on these guys, especially now.
Not only that, but you can legit get dozens of: Brady, Brees & the Manning bros for the cost for one of those overpriced/overhyped cards! 🙄
I think that's a pretty good price on the Nolan, nice card to get a deal on!
Jeff’s picks & advice are similar to that of Mush from the movie ‘A Bronx Tale’
What app was that, that tracked prices like stock market
if you invest in FLEER! and especially 91 fleer baseball then you are doing pretty darn good
this episode had me rolling 😂
love the brutally savage takes on geoff wilson love it he deserves all the crap thrown his way
Intro theme song is suspenseful and right for the occasion 👍🏼
I invested in Franco. I have 2 of his rookie autos. One is numbered to 19 and the other to 60. Dood! Wander! Why?
49er Qbs can't play a whole season..
God Geoff is absolutely clueless
Don’t get me wrong, I love Kenny Pickett. I’m a Pitt alum so I’m 1 million percent biased BUT no way am I buying any card of his for $10,000! Give me the TLaw all day (that said, I’m not spending $10k on any card let alone an ultra modern card).
Great stuff as always!
People in this hobby just want to prove they are smarter than everyone else and say “I told you so”
As a Steelers fan, the words “Mason Rudolph” and “pretty good” have never been mention in the same room before; and they never shall be again.
My fav part starts at 0:58 and ends at 2:00 😂 😆 ☠️
😂😂😂
Get out the life rafts..for the ship...jumpers!
Why are you calling stupid You stupid You
im addicted to the opening music
RIP Wander Franco
Glad the only Franco cards I bought were base PSA 10's of Bowman and Topps that I got for around 20 bucks each when everyone was buyin Julio Rodriguez. Million dollar player with a 10 cent head.
Collect hockey 🏒
I do agree any of these younger Hot Stars in these super high expensive PSA10, BGS 9.5 whatever Chrome Refractor auto cards are a big risk & possibly a big frisk. Wait until they at least have played a few years and have a good track record on and off the field. I like sports to. I don't have to invest in all that. Buy a $10 poster of your favorite player.
2:25 I think that's the Wander Brett from "Step In The Box" channel Auctioned....
Thank god the Rays have depth at the SS position that other teams would kill to have. Basabe has looked good so far, Carson Williams is moving up the organization quickly and Junior Caminero is an absolute stud in Montgomery, so if any team was prepared for an unfortunate situation like this, they were without a doubt.
I have literally never heard Geoff Wilson give good advice on anything. Who opens 1988 basketball cards with latex gloves?!
Who opens any cards with gloves,weird!
Lol at these QB picks from PPP Man
Entertaining. 👍 Geoff Wilson: often wrong but never in doubt. I like the Ryan RC you picked up. 👍
That noble cards guppy is all over the x app. He's way to invested in that guy 🤣
bro this shit is hilarious on lunch break TY
And as the news broke yesterday, it was Wander Franco Snapback Hat Giveaway Day for all fans 14 years old and under at the Trop. Oh, the irony. Luckily I stick to buying David Justice and Chipper Jones for the PC, Justice doesn't have any value and Chipper doesn't have a ton.
I'm not buying any QB autos at those prices. I'd rather take that $10K and buy HOF autos
Card People who are ok with grown adults who like to be around children are the same ones who are ok with athletes being with underage ones……….interesting 😳
Every time I hear the word ‘investment’ associated with sports card collecting I cringe. The two words don’t go together. Good on you if you make a few bucks or even enough bucks to live a good life, but it’s the rare few who truly make a living out of a passion for collecting sports cards. Been collecting for almost 50-years now and seen the markets moving every which way.
T Lawrence easy pick there
Leaf/BG needs to make a Kyrie card with a flat earth inscription. I’d be interested in that 😂
I chased wander and tatis hard and had stacks of both. Immediately unloaded them all and it paid for all of the products.
Kenny Pickett sucks who is paying that much for his cards? Justin Fields had better stats as a rookie than Pickett and he is a RB
David Gonos out here punchin the air right now
Thanks for the video.😊
Its Ryan Finley Time...Will Grier....Jeff Wilson rant made me laugh my ass off......🤣🤣🤣🤣
Awesome ports hat
Sweetness pick up is real nice
I wish eBay offered stretch pay like Don West and the HSN so I could afford to invest in every teams back up QB's....
Lol 🤣🤣 so many people holding dust bag 😅 love it
Thank god I caught the peak at his cars and sold them all off. Before this event happened I could see the cards were not going to be good sells
The only quarterback I’d ever buy is Tom Brady
Every investor should understand these equations:
SE = A + L
ROI = NI / C
WG = KM x 4
This crap is the reason why I wouldn’t ever waste $ on anything modern.