What will happen to all the worthless junk slabs in the future?

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  • čas přidán 24. 06. 2024
  • With PSA grading a million cards each month, there are going to be millions of worthless junk slabs in a few years. What will happen to these slabs after they become worthless? I offer some ideas.
    Follow up video: Viewer ideas for junk slabs! • What are the best and ...
    0:00 Intro
    1:55 The obvious answer that we should avoid
    2:43: Idea 1 - PSA Buyback Program
    5:58: Idea 2 - Retro/hipster bar
    8:30: Idea 3 - Fanatics Sportsbook
    12:35: Preview of the next video
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Komentáře • 130

  • @MrJmangini
    @MrJmangini Před 9 měsíci +24

    All of the modern slabs will be junk when AI takes over. The old slabs are already falling in price over the new slab cards. I’d like to see people collect cards again instead of slabs.

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před 9 měsíci

      I have a half baked idea about slabs vs cards similar to what you’re saying but haven’t flushed it out to make a full video…yet

    • @MrJmangini
      @MrJmangini Před 9 měsíci

      @@simon466cardslooking forward to it!

  • @rdj3video
    @rdj3video Před 7 měsíci +20

    Hand them out to kids at Halloween until a dad complains you only gave his kid a PSA 8.

  • @kennethsalter9998
    @kennethsalter9998 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I would wait until a card is slab worthy 2 send inn! I like the PSA buyback program plan you spoke of !!

  • @Trashton
    @Trashton Před 2 měsíci +2

    I love your buyback idea!

  • @timczifrik7715
    @timczifrik7715 Před měsícem +3

    some great ideas..!!!! I love it...!!!

  • @cryptonite8495
    @cryptonite8495 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Dealers sell them for $1 each. Other dealers buy the whole box for 50 cents each, thinking they can sell them for $2 each. And so on. Hilarious when you consider that each card cost $20-plus to slab.

    • @Doors067
      @Doors067 Před měsícem

      My local auction house gets like 10 bucks a piece for junk slabs i make enough to pay my mortgage just buying junk slabs lol

  • @mrscott3961
    @mrscott3961 Před měsícem +2

    I think anyone who made it to the place a card was created for them should be remembered, a 5013c type museum funded by fanatics, psa is another idea. Include videos of interviews of the failed prospects and their experiences etc. A focus on resilience when life doesn’t go your way would be interesting. A non profit model could also incentivize slab donations and oversee a recycling effort similiar to your PSA buyback. Which is a could be modeled after the tech companies buy back programs. Good video, just subscribed.

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před měsícem

      Thanks for the kind words. Interviews with failed prospects is interesting, as would interviews of people who speculated on the failed prospects.

  • @gianvit0
    @gianvit0 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Ok really like the coaster idea 😅

  • @Moe_Mentum33
    @Moe_Mentum33 Před 9 měsíci +8

    Best thing to do is just crack your own slab and put the plastic in the recycle bin.

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před 9 měsíci

      I wonder whether normal recycling processes would be able to recycle it

  • @pk3739
    @pk3739 Před 7 měsíci +8

    This is an easy question to answer…REPACKS!

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před 7 měsíci +1

      That’s a good prediction for some slabs, but there aren’t going to be millions of repacks…I hope anyway!

    • @pk3739
      @pk3739 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Oh man, don’t underestimate the amount of greed that goes into putting repacks together along with the amount of addiction people have to cards in this hobby. Gotta get that fix on both accounts!

  • @duewhit310
    @duewhit310 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Build a table out of them.

  • @DDBG_777
    @DDBG_777 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Man...these are very interesting ideas, i think you and i need to have a drink and talk about more ideas my friend. I like where your going with this

  • @the1hatman75
    @the1hatman75 Před měsícem +2

    Save them for when registry sets catch up to those years. You have common 70's and 80's cards going for good money in PSA 8-10 right now just because people want to build graded complete sets. Give it time rather than waste them as random knicknacks that will likely damage the cards/slabs.

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před měsícem +1

      There are already too many worthless cards encased in slabs for them to be in demand years from now. That’s the biggest difference between ultra modern and the 70s/80s. The other is print QC - technology is better so it is less likely to get majorly off center cards compared to the 70s.

    • @the1hatman75
      @the1hatman75 Před měsícem +1

      @@simon466cards Except we are already seeing registry set chasing creeping into the 90's junk wax era with common pricing creeping up there as well. You are experiencing recency bias in terms of the modern stock. Give it time. As for the better quality, all that means is there will be more 10 chasing than lower grades. But it will still likely happen.

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před měsícem

      @@the1hatman75 I guess we’ll find out who was right in 30 years

    • @the1hatman75
      @the1hatman75 Před měsícem +2

      @@simon466cards It did cross my mind that we won't know either way for a couple of decades. Let's just hope we're all still here to find out, lol

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před měsícem

      @@the1hatman75 fingers crossed!

  • @Gibbs2626
    @Gibbs2626 Před 8 měsíci +13

    5 or 10 years?? They're not worth anything now. 😂

  • @derekholmes4792
    @derekholmes4792 Před 8 měsíci +9

    PSA is an evil empire

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před 7 měsíci +2

      I have had good interactions with PSA's customer service. Not sure that they can be blamed for people sending cards in to be slabbed that frankly should not be slabbed.

    • @PoorMansInvesting
      @PoorMansInvesting Před 3 měsíci +3

      And the people in the hobby made it that way

  • @SpursCards21
    @SpursCards21 Před 9 měsíci +5

    The number one investment from the 2017 draft class, Lonzo Ball 😀 Junk slabs are the next dime box item 😀 I feel like landfills still produce energy. Buyback would be great! Maybe in 5-10 years when PSA has no wait time whatsoever for any level. I still think there’s a market for these for the kids. The issue is sellers don’t want to make Pennies, when costs of selling and shows is so high. I’m going with landfill and probably the end result in most.

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Landfill is definitely the most likely result unfortunately

    • @glyn420
      @glyn420 Před 8 měsíci

      Pennies is still far more than 0 your comment makes no sense.

    • @SunOrRiver
      @SunOrRiver Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@glyn420if you add in the time and effort most people dont want to put in for cents. His comment makes perfect sense

  • @apexsensation
    @apexsensation Před 11 dny

    I think that these are all interesting ideas that have potential, but we're already there with the lack of slab value with companies like BCCG. Those slabs left the factory useless, made more so by how many are inserted with MJ Holding repack boxes. It'll be interesting when more desirable companies reach this on a greater level.

  • @masonrahal6980
    @masonrahal6980 Před 9 měsíci +6

    Junk slabs are exactly that. JUNK. BYE-BYE!!

  • @toddburgess3943
    @toddburgess3943 Před 11 dny

    A lot will go to companies that repackage cards to add value since slab card included. They can be bought in bulk, put in acrylic, creating different shaped, size and styles, desk paper weights, art pieces.

  • @gradedcards5516
    @gradedcards5516 Před 9 měsíci +3

    junk slabs most likely determined by the player -- if people kept to mostly submitting the superstars, then they would be fine...I only submit cards of players like Ohtani, Trout, Brady, Jordan, Brees, Crosby, etc...

  • @barfyman-dm6zx
    @barfyman-dm6zx Před 8 měsíci +5

    Oh it's simple. You start a CZcams channel making videos of you destroying those slabs in the most heinous ways you can think of. Guaranteed views

  • @nosharksinmypool
    @nosharksinmypool Před 9 měsíci +4

    I’ll be throwing my worthless slabs in the ocean along with my Apple Lightning cables

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před 9 měsíci

      Didn’t know about the Apple cables until I read this. That’s a big change for Apple.

  • @tonyhamilton9764
    @tonyhamilton9764 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Hi. I like the ideas you put out, but I don't think the return credit with PSA recycling is feasible. The cost to ship a slab back even in bulk would outweigh the minimal credit given. Someone has to pay to ship these junk slabs around and that's the biggest obstacle. The second part is PSA recycling these. Again, there is a cost here and it doesn't seem cost effective. To support this, I point to Crocs, the rubber shoes. They used to let you bring your old Crocs in store and they would recycle them. No credit, just a way to keep from them going into a landfill. This used to be a great way to feel like your Crocs purchase wasn't ruining the world. Then, this became to costly for Crocs and they stopped offering it. So, even without any credit, this was too expensive to continue. I just don't see this as something that would work. Again, not bashing you, I like the thoughts on what to do with this junk, I just don't think the answer is an easy one. I like the Sports bar idea, you can imbed them in the urinals! 🙂

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před 8 měsíci +1

      The PSA recycling idea was a drop off situation, like at The National. Agree that shipping is not feasible.
      The idea would be for PSA to give the cracked slab back to their plastic manufacturer to melt down and re-use. Whether that is economically feasible from a cost perspective 🤷🏻‍♂️
      The idea for a urinal in a sports bar is hilarious. Love it!

  • @FranciscoRodriguez-bl3ii
    @FranciscoRodriguez-bl3ii Před 2 měsíci +1

    I give mine away with my sales as a thanks and also as dunnage to protect the slabs I sold and shipped

  • @nicomillhouse
    @nicomillhouse Před 2 dny

    junk slabs as parking ticket/tokens. retro hipster bar tickets

  • @boxwi
    @boxwi Před 9 měsíci +4

    I doubt that a pure buyback/recycling would be profitable or provide enough incentive for returns. Instead of that, PSA could do a certification-redemption lottery. Basically, each day/week/month, PSA announces a random cert# or a dozen cert#s, which can be redeemed for various prizes. They could be redeemed physically for different tiers of store credit. With some other fun giveaways and grand prizes. This keeps slabs in circulation and encourages engagement with their product. It would probably be possible to automate the whole thing based on price guides for slabs worth

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před 9 měsíci +3

      It’s an interesting idea. The question I have is what percentage of people holding PSA slabs would (1) know about the promotion, (2) care enough to check them for a prize that they might not even use, (3) remember they own what is essentially a worthless card, and (4) take the time to go through each slab they own to see if it matches a cert number that will be mind numbing work if you have a big lot of slabs? Feels unlikely to be a big percentage of people.

  • @saucyjack1888
    @saucyjack1888 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Slabbed cards will always be worth something. It’s a simple matter of matter of mathematics and rarity. It also cost $15-$20 alone just for grading .Less popular = more value. If there are 10 million cards of a modern player just for example, and 1 million are graded PSA 10… you have created scarcity by only having 10% of that card graded PSA 10. Will it be worth a fortune, of course not… but still obviously worth more than the raw card. I am just referring to PSA 10 modern cards. I believe modern cards graded 9 or less will have very little if any value.

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před 8 měsíci

      You may be interested in my video coming out on Sunday about the populations of PSA 10 cards.

    • @saucyjack1888
      @saucyjack1888 Před 8 měsíci

      @@simon466cardsok thanks

  • @Rossstimmel
    @Rossstimmel Před měsícem

    So I'm kind of new to this. So what are junk slabs. Are they base cards that someone has graded? Thanks

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před měsícem

      Pretty close - basically cards that were graded during the pandemic when the card market was going crazy, but are now essentially worth almost nothing

    • @Rossstimmel
      @Rossstimmel Před měsícem

      @@simon466cards thanks for the info. So I am up in the air. I don't know if I would be better off grading or just selling them raw?

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před měsícem

      @@Rossstimmel it depends on what card it is and the condition of the card

  • @frederickbradley8255
    @frederickbradley8255 Před 13 dny

    MJ Holdings Mystery packs the future is now.😂

  • @Kevin_40
    @Kevin_40 Před 8 měsíci +1

    think long term. post 70s cards were considered worthless junk for decades in the 80s through 2010s then the miraculous card boom happened in 2020 2021 etc. so whats considered junk slab now just be patient and in decades from now wont be junk anymore

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před 8 měsíci +1

      The problem with your theory is that generally the only cards from the 80s and 90s with value are all superstars, and their cards are the only ones being graded from that era. Nobody is grading a Kenny Anderson or Todd Van Poppel RC. There are tons of failed prospects (Kevin Porter Jr., Wander Franco, Mitch Trubisky, Justin Fields, etc.) whose slabs will not have any value no matter how long you wait.

    • @jamesnguyen_1
      @jamesnguyen_1 Před 8 měsíci

      you can add desmond ridder, trey lance and all the other poop!!@@simon466cards

    • @user-hm5zb1qn6g
      @user-hm5zb1qn6g Před 2 měsíci

      In the long term, we're dead
      - John Maynard Keynes

  • @kyleyellowbird354
    @kyleyellowbird354 Před 8 měsíci +1

    PSA to have an environmental sustainability program (no landfill)

  • @markmaguire4727
    @markmaguire4727 Před 9 měsíci +2

    How about all the grading companies make a policy that they won't grade most base cards. That stops them from ever being a slab.

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Not sure why a company would prevent a customer from using their services. If someone wants to grade a base card, they should be allowed to do so.

    • @TranscendentalThoughts
      @TranscendentalThoughts Před 4 měsíci +2

      The 1986 Fleer Jordan card is a base card. Your plan needs work my friend.

  • @dc48664
    @dc48664 Před 8 měsíci +6

    I will be using them as tiles for my bathroom.

  • @TheMuvbuf
    @TheMuvbuf Před 8 měsíci +5

    They will be perfect man-cave drink coasters!

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Any particular junk slab player you would be targeting as a drink coaster?

    • @Jazamby
      @Jazamby Před 8 měsíci +3

      ​@simon466cards I am a Green Bay Packer fan, I would happily use rival teams junk players as drink coasters haha I would even use my own teams junk players as coasters to keep a theme of the man cave. Not a bad idea actually, plus those players can still be remembered in some way.

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@Jazamby that’s a fun idea!

  • @arbordoctor
    @arbordoctor Před 3 měsíci +1

    The answer is move them while there are still fans of these players. Once even popular players retire they become forgotten very fast.

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před 3 měsíci

      And what happens to them after they’ve been forgotten?

  • @davidthecardcollector
    @davidthecardcollector Před 8 měsíci +1

    These junk slabs are going to be popular among scammers who crack them open for the labels to make new fake slabs.

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před 8 měsíci

      Not sure how labels with specific QR codes and cert numbers can be useful to scammers

  • @Samshorror
    @Samshorror Před 9 měsíci +1

    Just do what we did with all our NES Mario cartridges and vhs tapes. Make tables with them.

    • @WanderingWolf365
      @WanderingWolf365 Před 9 měsíci +1

      yeah except those nes cartridges are worth thousands now, millions if still in box and perfect condition - WW

    • @Samshorror
      @Samshorror Před 8 měsíci

      A Mario duck hunt cartridge goes for 20 bucks at most. But the rare nes games are crazy 🤪

  • @bustingpacks8610
    @bustingpacks8610 Před 8 měsíci

    Edited. Prayers.

  • @richardlaino1079
    @richardlaino1079 Před 2 měsíci

    Also…educate collectors….suppy and demand is the key…over produced cards will never appreciate……unfortunately, the hunt for a 10 is what drives a lot of people…..most will never have a market for resale, unless you basically give them away….i just completed a 1967 marvel super hero set (55)….you would not believe the psa registry numbers compared to what people collect now…..

  • @PhilBeckman-rn6sx
    @PhilBeckman-rn6sx Před 18 dny

    I buy pre graded cards for certain players

  • @cardboardcheddah3715
    @cardboardcheddah3715 Před 4 měsíci

    The same thing that happens to raw. Raw will never be more valuable than its graded counterpart. Everything that can happen to raw will happen to graded. Likely not in a landfill but more realistically a hoarders closet.

  • @jackland454
    @jackland454 Před 12 dny

    They will go to COMC and get sold for $1.59 each..

  • @WanderingWolf365
    @WanderingWolf365 Před 9 měsíci +1

    out of 100 slabs, 90 slabs will be worth a couple bucks. 5-10 will be worth hundreds. and 2-3 will be worth a hundred thousand dollars +. - WW

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před 9 měsíci

      PSA is grading a million cards a month. By your estimation, that means 20K new slabs each month will be worth $100K+. I’d take the under on that without hesitating.

    • @WanderingWolf365
      @WanderingWolf365 Před 9 měsíci

      @@simon466cards Yeah it's simple math. That's why they're so succesful - WW

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před 9 měsíci

      @@WanderingWolf365 I think you’re underestimating the percentage of PSA submission that are 1) not sports cards, and 2) sent in at the bulk/economy levels

  • @emirkulovic713
    @emirkulovic713 Před 8 měsíci

    Junk slabs are still slabs. Some of the junk slabs are my favorites. Because PC

  • @bryansmith536
    @bryansmith536 Před 8 měsíci

    Lmao junk slab tables? What am I even watching... getting popcorn for the next idea..

  • @user-oo2dh8wd3x
    @user-oo2dh8wd3x Před 8 měsíci +1

    Avoid ultra modern!

  • @MadKrazyHitz
    @MadKrazyHitz Před měsícem

    Well good news is plastic and paper always melt

  • @SuperLuchadore
    @SuperLuchadore Před 8 měsíci +1

    I've seen the $5 dollar slab box.

  • @richardslade9307
    @richardslade9307 Před 8 měsíci

    Not how hard plastic recycling works unfortunately.. it’s simply far less expensive to just get more slabs made brand new than recycle old ones into new ones.

  • @bryansmith536
    @bryansmith536 Před 8 měsíci

    Why would you buy those?

  • @user-uc9ot7ur7l
    @user-uc9ot7ur7l Před 8 měsíci

    Industries ran out of ideas, as soon as they ran out of player's. ... they're obviously to cheap !!..... Instead of inventing influencer's, parallel's of every color, refractor, Chrome this & that,#'d 1/1, 00/00 ???? of prospects, rookie's, that haven't played even two years, and not realizing that they have the best Job in the world...... Here's a suggestion;.... For us individuals that have All those worthless cards from 80's, 90's, till 2002..... not graded, yet well stored, worthy of a by back initiative of all the past production brands!! ... Now use your imagination.... I'm sure Frank Thomas, Clemens, all steroid dudes, Griffey, Ripken's.. Jackson's ECT...... Look, you've killed two birds with one stone..... saving some tree's, correcting your massive production of the junk era.... I'm capable of selling you industrial Moran's back some nice JUNK!!!!!.. USE your imagination.....

  • @landanwoodard7569
    @landanwoodard7569 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Recycle the plastic if possible

  • @ajstrandquist327
    @ajstrandquist327 Před 12 dny

    I believe it’s called trash

  • @richnoggin7524
    @richnoggin7524 Před 8 měsíci

    What is a slab?

  • @Everettg
    @Everettg Před 2 měsíci

    I hope they just destroy them. I once bought a Branden Clarke base prizm psa 9 for $20

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před měsícem

      What did you do with the Clarke base Prizm PSA 9?

  • @glyn420
    @glyn420 Před 8 měsíci

    The same thing that happened to all of them from the 1990s.

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před 8 měsíci

      Not sure I understand. There was minimal grading happening in the 1990s.

    • @glyn420
      @glyn420 Před 8 měsíci

      @@simon466cards there were plenty of cards getting graded there were more conpanies then than. Now and then there were a lot of products that came already graded. .

    • @glyn420
      @glyn420 Před 8 měsíci

      It was less than. Ow but it wasn’t zero.

    • @glyn420
      @glyn420 Před 8 měsíci

      @@simon466cards there were thousands graded of players like jd drew, Josh hamilton, eric valent, Pat Burrell, Kerry wood, mark prior, Phil Hughes etc graded in the 1990s early 2000snot to mention Michael olowokandi, Marcus camby, Keith van horn, Ryan leaf, Tim couch, Aaron brooks and there were many more busts or guys that didn’t quite become hobby favorites that were graded in decent quantities. They ended up selling for $1 occasionally even less. They still pop up on eBay from time to time. Usually going unsold or selling for an opening. Bid of $.99

  • @VerticalRookieCard
    @VerticalRookieCard Před 5 měsíci

    one touch > slab

  • @unconditionedcitizen
    @unconditionedcitizen Před 4 měsíci

    I graded my....dog

  • @KChiefs12
    @KChiefs12 Před 2 měsíci

    What’s happened to the hobby?????????

  • @thehighvibe5528
    @thehighvibe5528 Před 2 měsíci

    theyre worthless now

  • @daytonabeachUSA
    @daytonabeachUSA Před 2 měsíci +1

    Goofy hobby where everyone loses

    • @nogodsnomasters666
      @nogodsnomasters666 Před 2 měsíci

      not grading companies. If you really want goofy it's magazines....smh

  • @shermhart7617
    @shermhart7617 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I collect the likes of Grayson Allen will he ever be a top ten player in the NBA? Probably not even in the top 100, but I collect what I like. That's what you should do, buy what you like cause most of anit going get rich selling cards

    • @simon466cards
      @simon466cards  Před 8 měsíci +2

      The difference is that you're collecting. A lot of people are "prospecting" thinking the cards will go up in value, which as you point out, is unlikely to end well.

    • @Jacob_Spang
      @Jacob_Spang Před 8 měsíci

      @@simon466cards i went all in on the 1996 basketball class and tim duncan stuff back in the day... That turned out nice 😁