Why were there no Night Furies in the Hidden World
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- Somebody asked the question, why there were not any night Fury's in the Hidden World in How to Train Your Dragon 3. In this video we attemptto answer that.
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Actually, Night Furies and Light Furies are two different species, just like Deadly Nadders and Scuttleclaws, but except one is more rare than the other
They’re sub species :) that’s why they look so alike
Yeetez beetes You have be defetess It’s cool that they share the same plasma blast, but did you also realise that the Light Fury’s plasma blast is wider than Toothless’s?
Why sub species I wish the Lightfury was just an albino nightfury given her name.
Or like hotburples and gronkles
Sky Fury well besides colors there’s actually a lot of differences between the light fury and night furies. The light fury has smooth, almost amphibious skin, different shaped horns etc
not gonna lie, i would love to see a movie about Toothless finding other night furies more than the hidden world.
Also, night furies just *can't* be extinct just because of Grimmel. There's a whole world there, he couldn't just go around the world and kill them all alone.
tenshi tora well he probably helped in there supposed extinction.
Yea me to but the director said there are gonna be no other movies -_-
@@noobmaster6974 there isn't going to be a HTTYD 4 but spin-offs are a possibility
I would love to see that too but like it should be before this movie and like a movie about night furies and toothless
*I'm still waiting for the Toothless story spin-off to happen*
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Robert the Dude you to train your human:
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Let's do the math. Let's say Grimmel is 40 and he started hunting when he was 15. Indeed, that's 25 years of him hunting night furies. But that means Toothless would've been around 5 years old when Grimmel started hunting. So not only did this guy miss killing Toothless through out his youth (after age 5), he likely missed killing Toothless's parents!
It's conceivable that Grimmel did kill his parents later, but Toothless managed to avoid him and take care of himself in the wild, suggesting that his parents probably taught him everything he needed to know before he reached maturity (assuming age 15). So if Grimmel did kill his parents, it was likely after Toothless had already left the family flock.
Plus, I don't think Toothless would've trusted Hiccup the way he did if he'd witnessed his parents being killed by Grimmel (as popular fan theories seem to suggest). I'm not saying it's impossible, but the evidence doesn't seem to quite add up.
Totally plausible :D I love it! Also, remember though that Toothless did NOT trust Hiccup in the beginning. He didn't trust any human and the reason he didn't kill him is because Hiccup chose not to kill him and then helped him. Toothless realized not all humans are bad. The dragons in HTTYD are VERY intelligent so Toothless would have known the difference between a bad human and a good one
@@Alteori Very true! ;)
grimmel is not 40. he's at least 50 and probably 60. however, when he meets toothless he doesn't seem to have hunted night furies in a long time "i've missed this". also, he's from the continent and doesn't appear to have been to the archipelago before the third movie, so it's no surprise that he didn't kill toothless. night furies would naturally be big game animals and apex predators so they would naturally be targeted by hunters, even hundreds of years before grimmel was even born. I also think night furies are pack animals(their high intelligence and complex facial expressions suggest this) and toothless most likely learnt what he did by surviving in the wild growing up. humans are an oddity in placental mammals, because babies are born extremely undeveloped. most grazing animals can stand withing a few hours after birth, and most reptiles hatch as miniature versions of their parents, fully independent and developed from birth. I think its possible that toothless raised himself, although it is unlikely.
This makes total sense, so Toothless may have been abandoned by his parents because he was a runt.
but thats just a theory... A FILM THEORY
I totally believe that Night Furies are alive and well, but just simply well hidden. Now its been a bit since i last watch the final movie in theaters when it came out so forgive me if i am mistaken but, I believe that when Grimmel was asked about the Night Furies and said that they were extinct, the other person in the conversation asked about a possible location where they can still be. And his response was a very smug "but they NEVER go that far..." i forget if it was north or south. Most likely referring to one of the poles. And he hints that they can't handle the cold weather. However how would he truly know that. Smart animals when pushed further away from there original homes can sometimes adapt and even thrive one the threat is gone. What are your thoughts on this? Please correct me if I am wrong here but I really think they are out there. Possibly where we would least expect to see them!
The director said himself that they wanted you to beleive that dragons did actually exist. But I do see your point on things
"They couldn't have gone North. Night Furies can't survive the cold."
And yet Night Furies have raided Berk for generations(according to Stoic) and remaining put during the winter.
We also see Toothless playing in the snow in HTTYD 2 and seeming just fine in Gift of The Night Fury when its literally winter on Berk(covered in snow and ice).
Thank you for the quote! So you see what I'm trying to say right? I wonder if they all, or a big group when North. If anything, black scales could potentially be an advantage over there due to how well it absorbs external heat. Plus im pretty sure dragons in this universe are at least semi warm blooded due to how they all seem to tolerate cold ok and (most) can make some sort of fire breath at will. Thank you for your reply
Thank you for your reply! I would love it if dragons like these were once real. However dinosaurs are pretty cool too. Also a Jurassic Park fan.
If u watch the movie again u can see light furries on the cliffs as toothless takes his right as the alpha on the crystal in the hidden world when hiccup came back for him.
Also I would love to believe there are more night furious but… The creators of the movies have stated that toothless is truly the last one and that the light fairy is a endangered but unlike night farious are still kicking around
I don’t know how I missed spelled there you go I’m using a microphone and I was probably going really fast I don’t remember
Just cause they said it doesn't mean you have to accept it. Screw canon, if you don't like it write your own.
@@StarsandBarsRecords Yes! While I believe canon is a big part in most shows in movies but when it comes to HTTYD anything is possible!
Ok. I watch MLP and one of the writers said that Celestial and Luna were born alicorns and then Flurry Heart came along. Sorry to bring up to universes together but...😅
I have headcannon about that. I'm not done with it yet, but you can read.
Once upon a time, in a far away land, there were dragons. We lived freely and peacefully with each other, but a bit too peacefully, one might think. I lived a life that any Dragon would want. I had a sibling called Sweetlitter. She lived with me along with our mom and dad. And we all lived together, but we're protected by one mighty beast, or the king of beasts even. He was... our alpha.
Most Other Dragons said I was a wee Dragon when I hatched, about half the size of my mom's head. However, what I lacked in size, I made up for in heart.
I was told that although I couldn't fly yet, I was so full of adventure. I would always go to our alpha, and ask questions about the outside world. I was told "Gripper, you're too young to understand the outside world, you're better off here, where its safer". My sister Littersweet and I said otherwise and she would often follow me on our "adventures" in the cave.
As a wyrmling, I always wanted to be an alpha, and protect all dragons, including furies from any dangers, but I knew that would never happen. One time, when I could fly, I ventured a little too far from the cave. I saw something I had never seen before. It had the front of a dragon and wings, but its wings were square shaped and also layered on top of each other, as if to catch the wind. It's body was made of perfectly symmetrical trees, and on its back which I flew only a few metres to see, it had some strange creatures with dead grass on their head, no wings or tail, and walked on two legs. This was the start of something that would change my life.
Predictably, Sweetlitter went and told mom and dad. Let's just say, they were not happy. My mom told the alpha, and he had a certain look on his face, like he knew those creatures.
"Retreat into all of your dens, we can't let them see us" he said urgently.
I had just brought us one step closer to finding our terrible fate.
All but two dragons had taken cover, they were death grippers,who had those strange creatures on them. Turned out they could magically grow scales and wings, or at least make them. A few moments later, I heard terrified screeches. They captured and slaughtered us, and although we could take them, the Alpha had ordered one thing. Fly.
We all tried to fly away, but got shot. They would tranquilize some dragons, leaving them to fall and drown. Despite attacking every dragon, they seemed to really want Furies. It was every dragon for itself, and I watched everything, and everyone I loved vanished. I was the last nightfury in my nest, and it seemed like I would never see another ever again. As I flew miles, my wings were sore and couldn't take it anymore, I stopped to rest, and out of nowhere, a massive flock of dragons flew above me with food in their mouth. I was hungry and desperate but had just travelled a long journey.
A deadly nadder came down to me. I didn't know her, but she seemed welcoming enough for me to trust her. She took me on her back and took me to a mountain. It was another dragon nest, however with a not so protective alpha. It was tyrannical, and unlike my alpha, it ate other dragons instead of protecting us. She was a red death.
Who cried when they saw How to Train Your Dragon 3, I know I did
We all cried well everyone with eyes and a soul
@@elijahblast7548
I lack a soul and I cried.
I had them in the corner of my eyes.
Jared the Land Shark lol
I'm with ya there bud
"I killed every last night fury"
Yeah. Take his word if literally no other night fury besides toothless has been seen.
his coat is made from night fury skin
They definitely aren't seen a lot because they're intelligent or solitary, and _blend in with the night- and if more of Toothless' species knew the skill with the lightning, in the day as well_ no of course this is proof that one guy is capable of driving that world's most dangerous and intelligent dragon species to near extinction.
The person who wanted the night fury idk his name but he said he killed/hunted all of them except for this one cause the guy left it to be trapped and thats why toothless was scared of hiccup in the first movie
Justin Williams Grimmel
I doubt it. Toothless came to trust Hiccup rather easily. Most likely, Toothless is just a solitary dragon who happened to stumble upon a nice human.
Technically the Light Fury also came to trust Hiccup rather quickly as well, and she was actually caught and abused. So...there’s really nothing saying that Toothless hadn’t already encountered Grimmel in the past when he was MUCH younger before getting enthralled by the alpha in Httyd1. (Toothless’s eyes were enthralled-dialated when he randomly flew off to the Nest as he flew in formation with the other dragons. What I don’t quite get is...why the Alpha didn’t just enthrall Toothless and the other newly-partnered dragons again to keep them from attacking him. Unless that big dragon’s alpha-power was pretty weak?)
@@anonymousfellow8879
The Green Death wasn't an Alpha. It was simply that she ate them if they didn't bring her food and they were keeping her satisfied enough to stay in her den and leave the world alone
Anonymous Fellow but you would expect the light fury to save hiccup, hadn’t she Seen nightfury go back for the hairless animal “hiccup” multiple times? Wouldn’t she have gotten it? She saved hiccup for Toothless, not that she likes the human, she can’t understand why that dragon is fond of that useless creature
What if a Skrill was in HTTYD 3? Personally I think that would be badass.
@my dragon girls best friends forever I'll take your word for it.
I think there are some in the hidden world. There was also fireworms. Heck, the dragons that were in the shows might all be there, we just didnt see them.
@@yoitsmichelle5838 I can confirm that every dragon species are in the hidden world (place), but we very sadly never see them. The only species we see from the TV series (that we haven't seen anywhere else) are scauldron, fireworm and skrill (though I haven't seen a skrill personly)
@my dragon girls best friends forever its true
i would have loved if a ton of the dragons from Race To the Edge were there too
Now I'm curious.. Hypothetically, how would Toothless react to seeing another night fury? Fury dragons mate for life, so obviously he'd stay with the Light Fury in a romantic sense, but how would he behave around it? Would they be best friends, or would they fight?
thats false. since its most likely that when dart gets to her full mature she and toothless could breed together which with toothless black gene and since dart is almost like her father she will also have 3 or just 1 night light thats solid black. unlike her brothers who dont carry the black gene that much. And also in the hidden world there was 2 other night fury, most likely females so toothless couldve added those to his breedable females. since he is the Alpha of the hidden world.
@@chadwildclayfancwc5753 didn't you watch the movie? Grimmel says "fury dragons mate for live" in one scene of the movie, so he cannot just take an other mate, or probably he just mated with the lightfury multiple times
While I love the idea of other Night Furies existing, I believe the creators of the movie trilogy confirmed that Toothless is in fact the last of his kind. In an interview discussing the Light Fury, the director states that: "The Light Fury is a variation of Toothless’ species, the Night Fury. She is not the last of her kind, unlike Toothless."
The line, "She is not the last of her kind, unlike Toothless." Is a clear indicator that the director has confirmed that the Night Fury species apart from Toothless is extinct and will become completely extinct when Toothless passes. Yes, the Night Lights exist, and whilst they will have Night Fury DNA it doesn't make them a complete Night Fury. The pure Night Fury genome will be no more. Let us not forget that others would have followed Grimmels example, probably helping him in wiping out their species. Night Furys may have fled to colder regions but unfortunately evolution takes a very long time so therefore these dragons would not have had a chance to adapt quick enough, some may have been strong enough to possibly survive in colder climates but will also come to a much shorter demise than a Night Fury that lives in its natural ecosystem.
We are getting a Christmas special, and whilst I would love to see more Night furys I don't think the director is quick to go back on his word, although there is a very very slim chance that maybe he will change his mind and introduce us to more. But I highly doubt that. Having other Night Furys I think would just take some spark away from how important Toothless is.
yes they are not going to have toothless meet other night furies, and toothless is the last of his kind in the archipelago. if they were to do anything featuring night furies, i can almost gaurantee you toothless will not be in it.
Last of it's kind. The end.
night furies might be a tropical species or a species that migrates long long distances very far south to mate. So if they were hunted in the north what if they just decided to stick to more southern/tropical areas instead of heading back north? It would be smarter since they aren't very big dragons they can find more food in tropical areas and they already have many traits that make adapting to such environmental conditions really easy. (ex: echolocation, dark coloring and nocturnal habits, flexible/really agile fliers., etc) All these traits add up to being able to live in forests, mountains sea stacks on the coast, (anywhere in the tropics really).
Personally I think they did that just to write a sinister vibe around Grimmel, and to give Toothless some more Super Special Character™ points, since in the first two movies AND in the TV shows they kept whether or not Toothless was the last Night Fury in the dark.
In the archipelago
2:34
Staring contest with toothless!GO!
*after a few minutes*
Alright you win toothless, you win.
I lost
I won! Haha
Yep I lost
Marz :3 won
Lol I lost! I blinked about 10 seconds in! 😂
Oh my God I love how to train your Dragon keep up the amazing videos :D
Would have been nice to see Toothless reuniting with his own kind, being the Night Furies and not purely other dragons
I'd love to see a mini movie/series based on the time when night furies existed in mass amounts. How they lived etc. I'd love that.
My theory is this: we did see them in the hidden world. They were just hiding in plain sight. Remember, we couldn't see toothless very well at the beginning of HTTYD because he is as black as night and dark as shadows. Who's to say they weren't there all along in the hidden world? Just hidden in the deepest dark corners. Animals adapt to survive. If hiding equals survival, then the animal will always choose "Bravo Six Going Dark"
Better question Alteori....
Why are you so amazing?
Waahaa _1 better question waahaa...
Why are you so cringe?
Archie Outdoors, oh wooow you’re so cool dude, you called someone cringe. The dude was trying to be wholesome and give a compliment and you know what? If anyone is “cringe” (even though cringe culture & cancel culture are dead) it’s definitely you
Easy answer to that question Grimmel said he had hunted down every last one but toothless so thats why there were no Night Furrys because Toothless is the only one left
How does he know that though. Had he even been to the Hidden World?
Think we are thinking into this to much Toothless is obviously the only one because the writers have said he is
@@donnastarpaw Tbh i think it's BS you can't kill a whole species of RARE dragons that almost NEVER show themselfves
Gifi, several rare species have been hunted to extinction in real life, so tbh it’s not really that outlandish
@@donnastarpaw yea but that takes the fun out of this lol
It'll be so cool if there was a post credits scene to show a night fury or few of them flying in the hidden world
I had a thought, since Hiccup & toothless are the same age, there could be an entrance to the hidden world on berk some where on berk. A small entrance small enough for a young nightfury or baby nightfury. Maybe baby toothless was wondering off one day and he found said entrance and then got stuck on berk. What if the pocket under berk was the original hid out for nightfuries. I>I
1:58- 2:18, I remember this video ;). Thank you for another well done vid Alteori! Sincerely.
Maybe Night Furies don’t like being around other dragons ( as you can tell from the first movie ) maybe in the Hidden World where the Light Furie and Toothless went the Night Furies are hiding in a faraway area in the Hidden World. They’ve been isolating themselves
"And one is clearly a bABeH" -Alteroi 2019
Lioness lol
7:08 New Berk is only about northwest of old Berk and it only takes about nine days to get to the Hidden World by boat according to Dragons Wiki. 😉👍🏻
Grimmel said he killed them all off but he doesn’t even know where the hidden world is. If the Light Fury’s know where the Hidden World then I’m sure the Night Fury’s would also know.
Dean explained it's a cavern under the sea. Dean said, quote: "It's located within a massive volcanic caldera that serves as a gateway to an endless maze of chambers and tunnels, which in turn work their way around the world." We only see one of the entrances, aka the one they find.
Some of your videos are good but I wonder if you ever do HTTYD research, because these keep disappointing me. This bugs me because you're making your "theory" statements where facts already exist to explain it. This doesn't even matter if you've watched the movie, these were facts given to us even before the movie was released.
Well said
Amazing; first I get a video from CinemaSins about HTTYD & now you. I think I’ll have a good day.
Have you seen "cinemawins" version yet? I enjoy the different perspective of the two channels.
David Drummond no I haven’t.
Night furies were hunted to near extinction. That's discussed in the movies. There are several light furies though which are clearly seen in the scene when Toothless and his new lady love are front and center among the dragons of the hidden world. The camera pans over them in the audience. It's never actually confirmed, however, that Toothless truly is the ONLY night fury.
It’s a theory, there’s a lot of evidence stacking against the canon statements
Why did all the dragons roar to toothless and bow. Why is he so special. So doesn’t that show that he is the only one left.
Cardsfan4life no. That’s because he became their alpha in httyd 2 after defeating Drago’s Bewilderbeast. 🙂
Nah that's because toothless is now the king of dragons and one of the alpha species
@@poshpiranha820 not alpha species, hes just the alpha, its not like the whole nightfury or lightfury species become alphas its only toothless
Yea
The Nintenbro I think they meant alpha of the species
One possibilty could be Night Furies are actually nocturnal. They could possibly be living in the Hidden World, but they only come out at night. We've only seen the Hidden World for 5 minutes of screen time, and it was day. Just my theory.
Tee Kay That’s what I was thinking, if they’re meant to blend into the night there’s no question that they could be nocturnal. We did only see the Hidden World for such a short period that maybe we didn’t have time to explore any new things.
Well, seeing how light furies appear to be litteraly only on the hidden world, I would say they're basically the result of night furies evolving in an sunless ambient as creatures in cave biomes tend to evolve white skin, or vise versa, and for the couple of furies we seen, I think it's more that they mate and stay with their mates, and so the max number of furies you can see together in normal circunstances is a couple and their current litter
6:34 and there could be regions far away in the south with hotter climate where the night furies came from. I recommend to watch "HTTYD: What happened to the night furies?" by Hello Future Me. I really like his theory and his theory would easily make enough empty space for a 4th movie, if you ask me.
**when you watch this and remember what the creators of the movies said**
Me: foolish children he is the last one **wipes away tear**
Can you do a video of why the night fury is called the unholy offspring of lightning and death itself
Stephen Delano probably because someone at some point witnessed one harnessing lighting like Toothless does and it also kills... lightning - death. Before Hiccup did his whole thing everyone thought dragons were the killers 🤷🏻♀️
But bork is the Viking that made the book of dragons and all it said was size unknown speed unknown
The unholy offspring of lightning and death itself never ingage this dragon your only change is hide and pray it does not find you
Stephen Delano yeah... doesn’t mean he didn’t at some point witness a night fury in the dark. Maybe he heard it (like whenever toothless flies there’s a whistling type sound) so he recognized the fury - saw it do it’s lightning thing and disappear?
There’s endless possibilities. But he HAD to have witnessed one to even put it in the book, because if he never saw one, then how could he write about it?
They’re very illusive - maybe he saw it for a split second or two - hence the size unknown, speed unknown.
I get the lightning and death part. His fire power is lightning and then in the first movie hiccup said that night furies never miss
@@ruskivenom516 Bork the Bold was the one who wrote the book of dragons. Bork the bold was also a traveler. It was said that he died of a very "Unfortunate death." Bork the bold most likely died while traveling and he approached a lot of Night Fury's using the "electrical powers" causing death to many.
Loved the Video ❤️❤️❤️
I think that there must be more Night Fury dragons out there (it's just that the director of the HTTYD trilogy just wanted to end the series rather than drag it on. Which, is understandable.) The reason I believe this is because Valka in HTTYD 2, when she was gawking over Toothless after reuniting with Hiccup, offhandedly says that she has "...never seen one *this close.* " this comment implies that Valka must have seen a Night Fury (or even possibly a few Night Furies) in her dragon sanctuary at one point in time prior to the events of the 2nd movie, but either at a distance or because she accidentally scared them off when she tried to approach one. However, what *DOESN'T* make sense about that theory is that Valka knew about the secret 'Night Fury Back Spines' trick. So, if she only saw a Night Fury(ies?) at a distance, how exactly *DID* Valka know about unlocking that secret trick that not even Toothless knew about, assuming that she couldn't get close enough to the nameless wild Night Fury(ies?) that she maybe had spotted in her dragon sanctuary one day sometime in the past?
Wasn't it said that night furies -- before they were hunted to near extinction -- would attack Berk? Valka very well could have, uh, witnessed the trick during the raids. I'm not a HTTYD theorist, though, so take it with a grain of salt
I have another theory that might sound a little crazy, but here it is. Based on the relative ages of Grimmel, Drago, the warlords, or any other trappers interested in Night Furies, people have been hunting and persecuting these dragons for ages. Not many people evidently know of them (seeing as the Dragon Book says literally nothing about them), but people who want to find out will. Everyone is fascinated by Night Furies and want to hunt them down. Hiccup makes note of this in the opening of HTTYD 1, where he says the highest status comes from hunting Night Furies. This means two things- people have hunted them in the past, and there is a very large honor that comes from doing so. Usually, the honor and status thing comes from scarcity of the object in question or the dangers to be endured in order to get it. Why are Night Furies so rare, you ask? Here's my theory. Over time, the total-black Night Furies evolved into Light Furies which have inherent camouflage and a relatively smaller body size. Light Furies can also evidently fly around in daytime due to their coloration not giving them away. Therefore, as more and more Night Furies evolved over time into Light Furies, the latter's number increased while the former became rarer and rarer. Valka says Toothless may be the last of his kind, and we see an active Light Fury mating pair in the Hidden World (since there's a mum and a baby). Night Furies are bigger, bulkier, and less accustomed to camouflage than the Light Furies. This means that the Light Furies have a better survival advantage than their all-black cousins. Natural selection means that anything that gives survival advantage is selected for over time. It's not as though the Night Furies have any disadvantages, which is why their numbers still continued to exist but due to overhunting they almost went extinct. What do you guys think?
Yes
Wow. If only they made this more obvious in the movie that would have been amazing. It makes perfect sense. Maybe they’ll make a short film about that.
Fun fact: in this scene 4:00 scene, their was another lightfury on the background with a baby lightfury.
And I'm surprised that some people disagree with the movie. They said it themselves so you can't go against that.
Love the vid great job😄😄😄😄
Might I say that I don't think the pair of Light furies we see in the hidden world are a adult and a baby? The supposed 'baby' closely resembles Toothless' Light Fury, so I think it was a adult/yougn adult female. And the larger Light Fury was a male! It was much stockier and resembled Toothless' build, but as a light fury. ^_^
I know night furies are still alive they are very intelligent and very elusive so of course they be smart enough to hide
YES!!!
I think that you are right on the theory that the night furies are hidden elsewhere because in Dragons: Riders of Berk there is one episode in which is said that night furies are not very friendly towards other species of dragons, so there could actually be a whole hidden world full of night furies
The reason is they could be exclusive species to different climates the light fury’s are exclusively found in the hidden world and toothless/night fury’s could be exclusive to a different archipelago
Oh
If Toothless ever meets female Night Fury he would still be Light Fury's mate, but he would have to mate with the other Night Fury in case Toothless and the other Night Fury were the two last ones, just to save his species.
Night Furies mate for life, so that possibility can be scratched off.
Yes, and what if its male?
@@ruichirou8434 thats false
Ok so i have a 3rd possibility:
grimmel could have killed them all a few years ago. clearly, hiccup is about 20 (i know thats sounds too much but in httyd 2, his mother said about 20 years ago, the attack of the dragons happened and she ran.) the scene where hiccups father said "especially night furies" in hiccups flash backs was about when hiccup was 4 - 5. perhaps the "night furies" that his father was talking about had gotten old and easy to hunt. grimmel took that as an advantage. grimmel had possibly passed the hidden world when he was a boy, but his chief turned. as it was a huge dip. when berk flew away and grimmel was telling the others where they had went, he seemed to know alot about night furies. my other theory is that grimmel was lying about killing his first night fury. how would grimmel know all that about night furies if he killed them on the spot. and he couldnt have read a book as, in the story it explains there was no facts known of night furies.i think grimmel rode dragons and hiccup and him are VERY alike.
anyway thats my possibility
While that's a good theory, I don't think Grimmel would ever ride dragons. See, Grimmel isn't exactly one to lie, or bluff, no he's got too huge of a pride and a love of hunt for that. He probably did kill a Night Fury, but not exactly on the spot. He hesitated, much like Hiccup, before thinking, maybe he could use this as an advantage to know the traits of night furies, and use it so that he can drive them into extinction.
Ooh I just made a Httyd playlist! Perfect timing!
A group of night furys found the hidden world , they stayed there bc they are going phew. After a very long time "THEY EVOLVED" into light fury . They dont need to hide there , they dont need to fight so they evolved into a little bit more passive version.
Ooooooh I like that version that is my head canon now. Now it all makes sense. Grimmel killed all the nightfuries that didn’t escape into the hidden world, because the ones that did evolved. I don’t care what Dean says this is the only correct answer.
They say that nightfuries are the offspring of lightening and death. Before HTTYD3 I simply assumed Toothless was an only child. The only nightfury there ever was.
The girl is not a night fury it's a light fury. They are half and half same and different
I have no idea why you are telling me this. @@buckybarnessboo1766
I mean, if this kind of thing was possible in the world, maybe. The phrase just came from mere fear of the unknown, the unknown being the night fury.
what happens if a Night Fury mated with a skrill
Ikr, would it work? Would nature get in the way because their different? Idk
Would most definitely happen. In titan uprising there are insane hybrids so I’m sure it could happen.
Monbebedelight I know what it would look like also it would be called a skrill fury
@@anita6329 that'll be so cool!! I found this cool looking art that a person made of a Skrill and a night fury
Monbebedelight I know I seen it before cause I Google it myself
I agree that Toothless did have a family, but he lost them at a young age. I have this hypothesis because when he and the light fury first mated on the lake, he didn’t know the mating dance. I believe this is because Grimm killed Toothlesses family, so his parents weren’t able to teach him. But there may also be another reason. Since in most litters, there’s always a runt. And parents usually kill off or leave runts to protect the stronger ones. Toothless may have been a runt and his family left him. But he somehow survived and stayed with the nest in the first movie.
Very valid explanations on why night fury's could still exist, 10/10
"And one is clearleh a babeh" - Altiori 2019
Lol I had a Dragons: Rise of Berk ad XD
Chickies & Duckies me too
Perhaps they can make a show about toothless' backstory and then him and maybe his family finding a land of night furies? That would be so cool!
That simulation of Toothless and the Lightfury makes me think of how we'd view them if they were apart of/added in Monster Rancher 2.
I hope you will post more HTTYD videos
OH COME ON, WENDY
Its obvious Tooth less is part cat AND related to Godji, duh.
Samuel Jones yeeeeeeeeeeees
I just realised there would be another night fury, toothless’s kid which is a night fury, possibly there are other night furies hiding but we actually seen another one btw which is adorable!!!
Nice video 🙂👍
Alteroi makes a video about why there were no night furies in the hidden world
Shrek: Good question
How to train your dragon vid: *Shows poison wyvern from Ark*
Facts she could've shown a Ice Wyvern
It world be cool for a toothless back story so it in the eye of young toothless and him with with family anf the story on how he got to be at dragon island with big baddy
Heckling love that picture XD 3:35
I've watched this movie a few times and I'm pretty sure you can spot a few Light Furys when you see Toothless and Light Fury sit together in The Hidden World.
The thumbnail creator is kittencreative on instagram! You've improperly credited them.
Theyd really appreciate credit as I personally saw on their insta page after they noticed this video. s
Just live with the fact that this theory can't be true because if something is said in a movie like this and they stick with it then it true (unless they have some big plottwist and find out it's not true but HTTYD 3 is the last HTTYD movie so that's not happening)
I know the real reason why there aren’t any Night-furies in the hidden world, and it’s really simple:
DreamWorks wants to sell more marketable plushies of their favorite and oh so *unique* lil guy, toothless
I don’t think other Nightfurys lived in the same hidden world (if your correct and theirs multiple) because if they did, wouldn’t there be more hybrids in the hidden world? Supposing theres only a few (like the Lightfurys) they’d have to mate outside their kind, right? But we didn’t see any hybrids, and by the way, the Lightfury would’ve probably mated with a different Nightfury (because they were both in the fury family) and so there would be more Nightlights and Nightfury hybrids.
"Why were there no Night Furies in the Hidden World" THEY SAID THAT TOOTHLESS WAS THE ONLY ONE LEFT. People are bloody blind and deaf.
Christian Clancy well they didn’t know there we re light fury’s so YA KNOW
@@yeetezbeetesyouhavebedefet1457 light furies aren't night furies...
Point is, they said they had discovered every dragon species, yet discovered a few more including the light fury in HTTYD 3. Just like the antagonist assuming that dragons can't survive in the cold, yet in HTTYD they lived in a hidden, cold cave created by the good bewilderbeast. While we don't see any night furies, it's reasonable to assume they are there, somewhere. There's so much land still undiscovered by Hiccup that he can no longer explore without the aid of Toothless. We've pretty much learned that not everything is as what it seems
Rusty Dragon sub species, and not the point. Point is another hole dragons species slipped under there fingers, so you never know :>
EkoFriendly He didn’t say dragons can’t survive in the cold, he said “Night Furies can’t survive in the cold so they haven’t gone north”, also while Hiccup and the audience didn’t see the bewilderbeast’s nest in its full, Valka had lived there for 20 years and would have definitely explored the whole nest in that time and did not see a single Night Fury since she says “he may very well be the last of his kind” this quote being directed towards Toothless. In conclusion as of what everyone in the show and the audience knows with the evidence shown and given by the producers and the entire franchise of How To Train Your Dragon, Toothless is the last Night Fury and after he dies the Night Fury species will be forever extinct and until we are given definitive proof that Toothless is not the last Night Fury I will stand by this and will not change my mind no matter what theories arise from anyone in or out of the franchises fandom. (I apologies if this sounds more cruel than I was intending on, I mean no disrespect to anyone who believes that Toothless is not the last Night Fury, I actually would proffer that he isn’t, however as the canon of HTTYD stands, I stand by the given evidence that Toothless is the last of his kind)
I don't believe that one man can cause an a whole entire species of dragons to go extinct when it was blatantly clear that they are elusive and hard to find and that they're very intelligent obviously that there are other hidden worlds because not all the dragons from this series would have gone there
This is very interesting...
Night furies are so good at hiding we think they're extinct.
I went to watch this vid and I get an add for a how to train your dragon game
Kinda dissapointing we never saw any other Night Furys in the movies. It was a pretty big plot point and I feel it wasnt resolved.
Know this is an old video but it feels like the best one to make this comment on. Does anyone else wonder how the movies and tv series might have gone and Toothless and Light Fury were switched so Hiccup got her and Toothless wasn't introduced until the last movie?
Alteori, This video focuses on Night Furies, but in the the 3rd movie when they are at the hidden world, I remember seeing a white with black specks light furry! I don’t know if that is the only other one, because i have a vague memory.
the director (Dean Deblois) of the movie said he was the last night fury look it up all real fans know this
Exactly. Dean Deblois decided to make Toothless the last of his kind. We as fans have no say in that
Mayby toothless is a hybrid of a skrill and a light fury it would explain why he is the pure product of lightling and can you please do a godzilla 2019 pov and a indominus rex final fight pov?
Then why is he black skrills are purple and light furies are white how do you get black from that
2:23 Mind if I ask why a poison wyvern from the game Ark is there????????
I’m confusion!?🤔
I also have a theory, maybe the “lightfuries” seen in the hidden world ARE some of the nightfuries that are left. Hear me out. After Grimmel started hunting the nightfuries, the hunters had a plan to hunt the nightfuries during the day so it’s easier, then when the nightfuries realized they were being hunted they traveled and adapted to having white scales and the power of disappearing to hide WAY better during the day where they used to be hunted, and they discovered the hidden world and lived in solitude there and every-so-often one of the “lightfuries” leaves the hidden world to seek out other nightfuries or “lightfuries” and take them back to their safe place known as the “hidden world” for dragons! Hope you consider my point of view! And btw, love the vid!🤗❤️
No. Light furies are a different species all together.
Evolution doesn't happen when animals are being killed too quickly for things to change
If another movie came out JUST abt dragons and no Vikings and how toothless goes exploring and finds other nightfuries I WOULD TOTALLY WATCH ITT
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So when I was watching the hidden world
When the dragons were flying up then falling back down
I thought I saw another night fury.
I don't want to spoil the third movie for those who haven't seen it, but when they were in the hidden world I saw 2 more light ones.
I really wish if they make another movie how To train ur dragon today, i love ur vids, plz give me a hurt, it really means a lot.
It would be fun if Hiccup's legacy's is going to seek for the dragon legend and of course there will be a bad guy that want to hunt down the dragons for a big fortune.
@@Marvelsdisneydreamuniverse or maybe a descendent finds the dragons
@@heartbrokenninja118 that was the word i was looking for i am not english.
@@Marvelsdisneydreamuniverse oh,ok
If anyone is wondering why hiccup and astrid were flying right next to fireworms (classified as hotter than the sun) and not burning up, is because fireworms can control their bodyheat. They're only hotter than the sun when they need to be, it is shown when one of the characters in Race to the Edge or something idk was holding a fireworm and yknow, their hand didn't blow up.
It would be cool to see more night fury’s in the hidden world like a short film
Eey A HTTYD Video
4:10 Bruh He Could Be a Witcher!
What if light furies *are* just female night furies? You also have to think that toothlesse's mom could have been a light fury, there may have been just a pure black variation. You just have to think about genes. There is always a chance that the offspring will be identical to the parents. Maybe toothless and the light fury just happened to have kids like that. You never know.
hjkl PRODUCTIONS A male light fury showed up in the hidden world though it was kinda fast.
@@javartaitt-hoyte4979 Doesn't mean they're related.
hjkl PRODUCTIONS no it just means they are different species.
@@javartaitt-hoyte4979 Ok so maybe they are, but it's like horses and donkeys. When they breed there is a chance that a horse or donkey may be born (I think)
@@javartaitt-hoyte4979 Where was the other night fury anyway?
I like the thumbnail ❤💙
2:26 wait its from a game?
hi it's good ok soo i love your vidr
Grimmel most likely missed Toothless because he was under the control of the Red Death. I don’t think Grimmel knew about the Red Death so he just never found Toothless.
I love how just out of nowhere she gets a random photo of a poison Wyvern from ark
Tysm for stating that Light Furies are NOT female of Night Furies! This is a great video with a great theory that could even possibly lead to Dreamworks doing HTTYD 4! Keep it up!
In Riders of Berk in the episode hiccup goes thru Bork(or Borg i can't remember)'s notes it says that night furries don't like other dragons so maybe they have always lived in their own little place alone. maybe Toothless was taken away from his pack by the red death?
I have an idea for a new movie they should make it in the past but this time its reflecting on toothless past how he was living and seeing other night furies
Wow I didn’t know this will have so much stuff behind the movie
The series focuses on a small part of the Scandinavian region in a time when days or weeks long travel overseas was not common enough for Vikings to realize the immensity of the world. Hence, dragon species seen in the series might cover most of the Scandinavian species but not all European species, and absolutely not the ones endemic to other parts of the world such as the Caribbean, arid deserts, steppes, mountain ranges, tropics, and so on.
Ahh maybe thats why in the new series where the new dragons were found was like in a mountain
When you think about it, it really doesn't make sense that this ONE person, Grimmel, killed an entire species of dragon
Honestly I think there might be more Night Furies in that universe, just hidden and they must have adapted somewhere where no Vikings thought they would have.
I wonder if perhaps the reason why nightfuries are so rare is because they themselves are a mutation of the lightfury. Sort of like how under certain circumstances animals in nature can be born as either albino or melanistic. So, perhaps, Toothless is a rarity among rarities, a melanistic lightfury.
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