Is How to Train Your Dragon RUINED

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  • čas přidán 20. 10. 2019
  • We've seen some promotional pictures for How to train your dragon Homecoming (Snoggletog) on the Dreamworks page. With it we have some new information concerning Toothless and his family and the events of Hidden World.
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  • @HS-ENTMLGY
    @HS-ENTMLGY Před 4 lety +731

    How To Train Your Dragon: far From home

  • @oscarstainton
    @oscarstainton Před 4 lety +766

    Just say “It’s not canon!” And call it a day.

    • @Oscarzilla2004
      @Oscarzilla2004 Před 4 lety +15

      You stole my first name

    • @jackalnerf6230
      @jackalnerf6230 Před 4 lety +46

      yeah, but every httyd piece of content other than games has been canon until now.

    • @alessandracartoonvids6764
      @alessandracartoonvids6764 Před 4 lety +18

      Maybe the writers got confused with their own decisions.

    • @emmalelea3526
      @emmalelea3526 Před 4 lety +7

      Actually, only the movies and Gift of the Night fury are considered canon, since Dean Dublois directed them.

    • @emmalelea3526
      @emmalelea3526 Před 4 lety +1

      Idk, I just remember reading somewhere that only those pieces were canon, I wasn't 100% sure. As much as I love all the tv series, I personally only consider riders and defenders canon, and maybe a bit of rtte, since it’s just way too inconsistent. =(

  • @chocotacobaco2499
    @chocotacobaco2499 Před 4 lety +292

    rescue riders:trash
    Race to the edge:not trash
    simple as that

  • @marlenelvr
    @marlenelvr Před 4 lety +52

    It makes complete sense. They had barely met the nightlights (I watched it) and toothless. Furthermore, if u watch toothless’s eyes then u will see he was kind of in dragon hunt mode for like protection but when he realised he was fine.

  • @dean2_
    @dean2_ Před 4 lety +389

    Ima be onest
    Rescue riders killed it first

    • @shadowx8145
      @shadowx8145 Před 4 lety +26

      I mean it's a kids show and not really for the fans of the original. So yeah nothing was ruined

    • @rainbowdragon4248
      @rainbowdragon4248 Před 4 lety +9

      agreed. ruined it completely

    • @malekosmom2303
      @malekosmom2303 Před 4 lety +3

      Dean2 I actually hope both the series will cross over. Have mind *YOU!!!!*

    • @ultraamazingtop10s90
      @ultraamazingtop10s90 Před 4 lety +9

      rescue riders isn't the same universe

    • @CrystalBlazier
      @CrystalBlazier Před 4 lety +9

      @@marbles2468 The original HTTYD books had Hiccup talking to dragons, so... that idea wasn't stolen. pff

  • @katherinemayers6733
    @katherinemayers6733 Před 2 lety +18

    I hate how Hiccup’s selfless love for Toothless is treated as clingy in the third movie. Their relationship wasn't portrayed in this way in the previous movies. Deblois lost his mind. Since when Toothless was a captive? What "freedom"? He's Hiccup's equal and he CHOSE to stay with him, because he loves him =_= All because plot, they need to separate forever and other nonsense =_=

  • @jakubgavenda4774
    @jakubgavenda4774 Před 4 lety +329

    It doesn't make sense. Why it would be before ending of HTTYD 3. Maybe it's a mistake as you said.

    • @peachibread1983
      @peachibread1983 Před 4 lety +18

      or it's been years later and isn't the snoggletog right after they moved to new berk. it's probably been a couple snoggletogs and hiccup decided to take his kids to meet toothless. like it starts before the epilogue, during the epilogue and after.

    • @jacknight10
      @jacknight10 Před 4 lety +2

      It make be a mistake it don't make any sense

    • @madison_russell04
      @madison_russell04 Před 4 lety +2

      Maybe the movie is about Hicups getting his kids?

    • @l5098
      @l5098 Před 4 lety +1

      It must be a mistake or not canon because this makes 0 sense

    • @Izzylovesdinos
      @Izzylovesdinos Před 4 lety +2

      Husna Harghandiwal can you give a link?

  • @yortiz2022
    @yortiz2022 Před 4 lety +276

    Man they should make that the new generation finds out about dragons and how there not bad creatures
    Edit: BRUH THEY ACTUALLY DID IT BUT IT'S SO BAD, THEY SHOULD'VE DONE IT WITH HICCUPS KIDS AND TOOTHLESS KIDS, AND THEY GO ON ADVENTURES JUST LIKE THEIR MOTHER AND FATHER, IT'S LIKE RESCUE RIDERS BUT BETTER. BRUH HOW DID I COME UP A WITH A BETTER PLOT THAN D.W(DREAM WORKS). why was this all caps my bad.

    • @yortiz2022
      @yortiz2022 Před 4 lety +11

      animalwild100 ummmmmn let’s not talk about that 😉

    • @zekezzekekan2144
      @zekezzekekan2144 Před 4 lety +2

      When I started reading your comment I really thought it said they should make out.

    • @yortiz2022
      @yortiz2022 Před 4 lety

      animalwild100 phew thank you

    • @yortiz2022
      @yortiz2022 Před 4 lety +1

      Zeke Z ZekeKan welp they did once 🗿

    • @zekezzekekan2144
      @zekezzekekan2144 Před 4 lety +1

      @@yortiz2022 sweet that must have been hot. You know cuz they breathe fire

  • @maikurumi5277
    @maikurumi5277 Před 4 lety +63

    When I first saw this I thought that the babies had traveled to berk somehow on their own since they already know how to fly. We do get a picture of Toothless and the light fury drawing some human thing for their kids in the sand. Maybe they get curious and decide to travel to berk themselves without their parents knowledge. Then after dodging the sights of the humans at berk, the kids eventually spot the baby night lights and that picture with hiccup and astrid is them fondly looking at their kids playing with the night lights. After watching this heart touching scene, hiccup and astrid decide to take their kids to the hidden world and escort the night lights back. Before reaching the hidden world the night lights fly away from the boat and into the mists towards the hidden world is where they reunite with their parents. Toothless and the light fury noticing that something is off go to the entrance to observe what might be out in the waters. Out from the mists comes the boat and toothless flies over to meet the intruders while the light fury keeps their kids behind for safety. After recognizing each other, toothless and the light fury probably take the dragons to celebrate snoggle tog at berk or that meeting ends there after both families have fun together with their reunion being each other's snoggle tog gift. My theory since I heard the news of this was that the night lights traveled to berk alone due to their parents drawing a depiction of humans for them in the sand. Now hearing that homecoming comes before the epilogue scene in the 3rd movie, this is my new theory. X3

    • @flatstheflounder2884
      @flatstheflounder2884 Před 4 lety +3

      If Homecoming really does take place before the epilogue, this theory might actually make sense! I'll keep this one in mind

    • @NiiMitsu
      @NiiMitsu Před 4 lety +3

      My thoughts exactly, I was going to comment something similar to this xD

  • @hcsp1
    @hcsp1 Před 4 lety +48

    Having had the same doubts, I can confirm after seeing the short they work around it well enough and nothing was “ruined”

    • @mikaelvirji5807
      @mikaelvirji5807 Před 2 lety +4

      And worst case scenario, just pretend the short isn't canon if it really messing things up for you that badly.

  • @corvidkhaos
    @corvidkhaos Před 4 lety +150

    “So what inspired you to make Httyd homecoming?”
    Dreamworks: “Money!”

    • @kenanwallace2124
      @kenanwallace2124 Před 4 lety +3

      I mean... I understood that reference.

    • @ranianilo
      @ranianilo Před 4 lety +4

      You mean Illumination?

    • @nightcap5393
      @nightcap5393 Před 4 lety +2

      You mean Gamefreak

    • @peterprice14
      @peterprice14 Před 4 lety +5

      build up to a new movie, and so the plot begins with toothless's kids finding berk and hiccup, which makes sense, in the beginning humans were curious and afraid of dragons.....now its the dragons turn now that are curious of the humans

    • @Minievo06
      @Minievo06 Před 3 lety

      Fax

  • @TheAngryAsianAnimations
    @TheAngryAsianAnimations Před 4 lety +120

    Let us pray whoever wrote that overview doesn't know what they're talking about.

    • @arjun._.bbC6
      @arjun._.bbC6 Před 4 lety

      @Husna Harghandiwal I know, right? I don't get the point of this video, and all the comments. It's like the people are willingly ignoring the obvious-ness. It HAS to happen before! It isn't even that hard to decipher!

    • @swordpegasus4032
      @swordpegasus4032 Před 3 lety

      I don't believe How to Train Your Dragon ruined I think that they wanted to mix it up a bit cuz toothless is a wild dragon and they wanted to set free.

  • @noctis589
    @noctis589 Před 4 lety +78

    What ive learned is if it keeps bringing them money they will keep making more till they bleed it dry

    • @mildlyobesegoat7262
      @mildlyobesegoat7262 Před 4 lety +4

      E.M. E.T thats DreamWorks not Disney

    • @themockingdragon135
      @themockingdragon135 Před 4 lety +2

      which is a shame since that's what DeBlois hoped not to happen, and probably a lot of other people too. I feel like alternative franchise that draw inspiration from it would be ok, if they were played right (looks at rescue riders).

    • @matthewjoyce1620
      @matthewjoyce1620 Před 3 lety

      Ahem shrek anybody?

  • @skyylerkingery98
    @skyylerkingery98 Před 4 lety +69

    That makes no sense at all, I thought it's after

  • @XIPHOZ1
    @XIPHOZ1 Před 4 lety +32

    Ali: It was the Beard that Toothless didn’t recognize him, until he smell him.

    • @pumaschuma142
      @pumaschuma142 Před 4 lety +7

      Yes and in homecoming, toothless didn't see hiccup he just smelled and heard him

    • @abbymckinley9605
      @abbymckinley9605 Před 4 lety +1

      That is very true.

    • @abbymckinley9605
      @abbymckinley9605 Před 4 lety +2

      @@pumaschuma142 you are right

    • @pstill9618
      @pstill9618 Před 3 lety +1

      @Gabriella Peterson Also Toothless was in his "protect the family and hidden world/ home" mode. Until the second he realized it was Hiccup. Then it was " You're Here!! I'm So happy to see you" reaction. :) When Zephyr met Toothless in New Berk, I think he smelled Hiccup on her clothes, and she ran up and said "Hey Dad." By that time toothless knew it was Hiccup in the suit. SO, Toothless was friendly to Zephyr. Kind of like he was thinking " those are My children and Oh, you are His!" Now they have another thing in common. Hiccup and Toothless each have a spunky & smart Daughter. :)

    • @pstill9618
      @pstill9618 Před 3 lety

      @Gabriella Peterson Also Toothless was curious about Zephyr in the Homecoming short, and she had called Hiccup "Dad". Toothless HAD to know what that meant after living with Hiccup and Stoick for so long, and Zephyr also had to have Hiccups scent on her, as they live in the same home.
      Toothless seemed to figure out that Zephyr was Hiccups child, and gave her a Dragon purr, before being called away to rejoin his own family. But with the meeting on the ship, Toothless arrived all protective of his territory and family, Until he got close enough to sniff Hiccup. Then he was overjoyed to see Hiccup and interested to meet the children. Would have been nice if Toothless had called his family over for a meet and greet as well. :) But, the reason everyone on the ship was nervous at least, was because Toothless didn't recognize Hiccup with a beard, so was wary and defensive at first.

  • @dk-zz7qf
    @dk-zz7qf Před 4 lety +19

    it's not a mistake, this "homecoming" takes place right before the ending part of HTTYD 3. At the end of homecoming, you can hear them say "Maybe it's our turn to visit them". And so they visit them. With follows with continuity.

    • @artemikurski939
      @artemikurski939 Před rokem +3

      Right, the point here is not the continuity but the internal logic of the universe - which is clearly thrown out of the window: Tootless can supposedly remember Hiccup for 9.5 years and then promptly forgets him within a few months.

    • @s0tird
      @s0tird Před 11 měsíci

      @@artemikurski939 Months? They were apart for 9 years.

    • @artemikurski939
      @artemikurski939 Před 11 měsíci

      @@s0tird Homecoming (where Toothless remembers Hiccup) is set a few months before the epilogue (where Toothless doesn't remember Hiccup). The epilogue is, of course, still set 10 years after the dragons left New Berk.

  • @HarryThomasPictures
    @HarryThomasPictures Před 4 lety +136

    As curious as I am about this short and as much as I love all things HTTYD. I don’t think this short is necessary. The franchise should have ended with Hidden World!

    • @leeobrien2004
      @leeobrien2004 Před 4 lety +2

      I thought you said the short was necessary?

    • @leeobrien2004
      @leeobrien2004 Před 4 lety +1

      Just be happy it's not a new series nor new movie

    • @ultraamazingtop10s90
      @ultraamazingtop10s90 Před 4 lety

      i think its cool

    • @purringdeath
      @purringdeath Před 4 lety

      Your opnions is noted

    • @AmieEss
      @AmieEss Před 4 lety +1

      But cute baby dragons. Gotta squeeze all that merchandising potential, especially with Christmas being almost two months away!

  • @drakainequus7115
    @drakainequus7115 Před 4 lety +15

    They can easily say that it is cannon by saying that when they started hating on dragons because of finding those books he took them to find Toothless to prove them wrong. Toothless didnt get to interact with him when he rescued his kids and is now happy he got given the chance. So it works out

  • @Talis1717
    @Talis1717 Před 4 lety +23

    I hope they just made a spelling mistake

  • @Amanda-wp6yj
    @Amanda-wp6yj Před 4 lety +13

    I think he’s scared probably because Toothless might not remember him.

  • @MystLucid
    @MystLucid Před 4 lety +12

    "They" (toothless& his family) only visited because the thriplets went to that place in secret without telling their parents (nighfury and lightfury) ....Thats why in the leaked images and footage, its clear to see that at the beginning of the short film toothless was telling his children about humans and so as hiccup telling the children in new berk that dragons existed. Then theres another leaked video that gived me vibes that the thriplets secretly went to new berk. .

    • @enderwalkgang
      @enderwalkgang Před 4 lety +1

      KayeStudioS they did, and that’s what I’ve been thinking, lots a people over look this it seems

  • @daddytatty7842
    @daddytatty7842 Před 4 lety +10

    Spoilers, toothless didn't actually 'see' hiccup only heard him and of course the kids would be terrified because they know about the stories of dragons rippin people apart and only the female child barely saw him

  • @compassrose1466
    @compassrose1466 Před 4 lety +10

    MAYBE, just maybe, the holiday makes Hiccup realize they need the dragons...hence the epilogue. It doesn't have to involve the dragons fully. Maybe they talk about tales with Hiccup and Toothless? Either way, this doesn't ruin a movie unless you let it ruin the movie.

  • @danielsausaman9767
    @danielsausaman9767 Před 4 lety +4

    in how to train your dragon 'homecoming' Toothless sees Hiccup in a Costume so he didn't put 2 ,& 2 together.

  • @windeen
    @windeen Před 4 lety +10

    It could start BEFORE the epilogue. And cover the events OF the epilogue in the movie, and continue AFTER the epilogue.

  • @bradenvester4308
    @bradenvester4308 Před 4 lety +6

    I say that the Fans determine the canon.
    If that happens, homecoming is after hidden world and Rescue riders does not exist in canon.

  • @noctis589
    @noctis589 Před 4 lety +23

    I swear the time and effort you put into these videos is astounding because its easier not to add those small details and the video would still be good but you take it a step further and make it great !
    Thats why i like you alt. you dont settle for meh, you always go for amazing

  • @MystLucid
    @MystLucid Před 4 lety +10

    Actually they didnt spent Christmas together

  • @sushistudios5627
    @sushistudios5627 Před 4 lety +82

    Her: it's ruined
    Me: the next flix show ruined it (not riders race to the edge)

    • @rain_star2512
      @rain_star2512 Před 4 lety +2

      Wy?

    • @shaf010._
      @shaf010._ Před 4 lety +4

      Horse Girl its terrible the dragons talk 😩

    • @MMp993
      @MMp993 Před 4 lety +9

      @@shaf010._ that's not the problem, the dragons talk in the books too. I don't think there is any problem, this series is made for very young children and is not connected to the main franchise, it makes no difference whether this series exists or not.

    • @sushistudios5627
      @sushistudios5627 Před 4 lety

      @@MMp993 the thing it has how to train your dragon as the title so makes a bad mark on the franchise

    • @BaronVladHarkonnen
      @BaronVladHarkonnen Před 4 lety +1

      The tv show breaks canon all the time.

  • @am3thysts
    @am3thysts Před 4 lety +6

    Yall, the next sentence in the movie release says “and 10 years after the end of “How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World” so that “emotional epilogue” is referencing the dragon’s departure and not when they meet up again. The whole thing will be 10 years after the end of the last movie. Stop worrying y’all.

  • @luisvalle7424
    @luisvalle7424 Před 4 lety +34

    Or they meet before the “ending” once on Christmas then during the ending it’s a few years later and toothless doesn’t remember him very well since it’s been years since they visited

    • @horrorpleb249
      @horrorpleb249 Před 4 lety +3

      That could actually work.

    • @pilummurialis6490
      @pilummurialis6490 Před 4 lety +4

      that's my thought as well, there's big time skip between the wedding and the ending with his kids

    • @caco9179
      @caco9179 Před 4 lety +1

      No it still doesn’t work stop trying to justify dreamworks milking money out of something that should be over- the kids have never seen dragons clearly from the ending

    • @luisvalle7424
      @luisvalle7424 Před 4 lety +1

      LuckyClover 1 shhh no salt here salt free zone son

    • @caco9179
      @caco9179 Před 4 lety

      Luis Valle No because that idea is bullshit and you people who are letting the company milk this series for money- ruining it in the process- by supporting this shit your ruining the franchise and making it into something that’s truly for 5 year olds and not something everyone can enjoy

  • @shadowx8145
    @shadowx8145 Před 4 lety +40

    I think this is the weirdest video alteori made lol, like it feels so random 😂. I think this is just a non canon holiday special and that's it. Just my opinion tho

  • @Benfiester
    @Benfiester Před 4 lety +5

    My only theory about this is it's only Toothless's kids who meet Hiccup, Astrid, his family and his people and spend Christmas with them thus could explain why Toothless didn't recognize Hiccup right away. Just my theory

    • @Mr.Wetherilli
      @Mr.Wetherilli Před 4 lety +1

      BRUH that kind of doesn't make any sense neither

    • @rainbowdragon4248
      @rainbowdragon4248 Před 4 lety

      a GAME THEORY

    • @Benfiester
      @Benfiester Před 4 lety +1

      @@Mr.Wetherilli How ? In the film when Toothless was flying with Hicuup's son the little boy reaches out for one of Toothless's kids before Astrid flies by. For all we know Toothless's kids recognize Hiccup and his family while Toothless didn't at first.

    • @Mr.Wetherilli
      @Mr.Wetherilli Před 4 lety

      @@Benfiester yet again it doesn't make sense why the hell would toothless not realize his kids is going sorry but it doesn't make sense

    • @Benfiester
      @Benfiester Před 4 lety +2

      @@Mr.Wetherilli lol no listen again. I'm saying Toothless's little dragons may have recognized Hiccup and his family because it's only the little dragons who visit Hiccup and his family for Christmas not Toothless himself or the Light Fury and so then Hiccup decides to take his family to Hidden World to see Toothless again. So in my opinion Hiccup's kids are terrified because it's their first time meeting an adult dragon and in my honest opinion Hiccup isn't terrified of Toothless just hesitant. You also forget that Toothless's little dragons are still be their mother by the hidden world entrance during the film scene. If I has to guess if Toothless and his kids came to the boat the little dragons would reconize Hiccup and his family if my theory is correct. Again just my speculation. @Alteroi

  • @paleodude2768
    @paleodude2768 Před 4 lety +10

    Dreamworks: Am I really gonna defile this grave for money?.....OF COURSE I AM!

    • @CyrixOkami
      @CyrixOkami Před 4 lety +1

      DreamWorks is the new Mr. Krabs

    • @paleodude2768
      @paleodude2768 Před 4 lety +3

      Nah, Disney is currently Mr Krabs

    • @theesinbeearesilent1367
      @theesinbeearesilent1367 Před 4 lety

      Oh my god-

    • @CyrixOkami
      @CyrixOkami Před 4 lety

      @@paleodude2768 then he would be singing so no Disney is not mr. Krabs which is why I said DreamWorks was.

  • @fastandnightfurious4279
    @fastandnightfurious4279 Před 4 lety +5

    Maybe toothless’ children snuck away from the hidden world

  • @3myr08
    @3myr08 Před 4 lety +2

    I like how you assume they meet Toothless.

  • @Infrared-nyne
    @Infrared-nyne Před 4 lety +26

    Your new intro is overly edgy especially if it's gonna be used on a how to train your dragon vid

    • @BullGator-kd6ge
      @BullGator-kd6ge Před 4 lety +1

      "overly"?

    • @ancientreddragon5617
      @ancientreddragon5617 Před 4 lety +1

      Who honestly cares, it's her intro, let her do what she wants dude

    • @Alteori
      @Alteori  Před 4 lety +1

      That's the general intro for the channel. It's funny you say that because part of its inspiration IS dragons. lol

    • @BullGator-kd6ge
      @BullGator-kd6ge Před 4 lety +1

      @@Alteori This is just a personal satisfaction from me but if it could end with the roars of Godzilla, Toothless, and Smaug, and Rexy my life would be truly complete

  • @bryannguyen2461
    @bryannguyen2461 Před 4 lety +6

    let's ignore the fact that it is before that epilogue and pretend it is after that scene ok?

  • @FranciscoCostaP
    @FranciscoCostaP Před 4 lety +1

    NO, it DOES make sense if you think about it!
    Let's picture it like this:
    - Starts with the babies in the Hidden World, playing and goofing around, being generally annoying to theirs parents and other dragons around;
    - They are young and growing, they are finally capable of flight, they want to explore. They want to go beyond the limits of their big cave, but Toothless and the Light Fury are protective don't let them.
    - One night, for some reason, they manage to sneak away, maybe while their parents are asleep. Maybe because they caught the scent of humans in the wind or something and can't resist to explore.
    - They fly to New Berk after a scent (or they find a drifting boat that ends there, or sneak on a merchant boat nearby on the way to New Berk, whatever)
    - They reach New Berk, and start to explore, fascinated by all the human-made stuff that they have never seen. Cute scenes of them fighting dragon themed-statues, being enchanted by torches and hiding scared from any passing human ensues;
    - Cuts to Hiccup and Astrid, tucking their kids to bed for the night. It's Snogeltog night, so Hiccup is reminiscing about when they used to celebrate it with dragons and how their kids will never get to meet them;
    - Just as Hiccup is missing Toothless the most, someone rushes in alarmed that there are many claims of dragons sightings in the village. They comment that that's impossible, they haven't seen dragons in 10 years, that it can't be true. Hiccup can't hold a little hopeful smile;
    - Hiccup coordinates people to look around for the "dragons", including himself and Astrid, just to shut everyone up ("probably just wild boars, nothing to worry"). More sightings by Fishlegs and others, funny chase scenes ensue, but no one gets a clear view;
    - By a convenient chance, Hiccup and Astrid are the only ones that find the dragons with a clear unobstructed view. Easily recognize them as the babies from T and NF, Hiccup does his magic, manages to approach them without scaring them off, classic sticks out his hand on their noses, happiness all around ("you are your father's children!");
    - Suddenly, the babies get alarmed. The sun is rising, and they know they have to get back before their parents find out. They lift off, and Hiccup starts following them desperately until the coastline. He watches them fly away, saddened but knowing he did the right thing in letting them go;
    - Astrid arrives and asks him "so what are you gonna do about it?". She points at a small boat, ready to go with the two kids already in it, still half asleep and waking up. "You want to go after them, don't you?". "I can't! we shouldn't!". "Yeah, but what do you want?"
    - They follow the babies through the sea until reaching Hidden World. When the babies arrive, their parents are still either asleep or worried sick, stressed and relieved when they find their babies.
    - From this point, the final scene from HTTYD3 rolls out again. At the end, Hiccup invites Toothless to join them for Snogltog every year if he'd like to, leading to a big Dragon-human hug, and cutting to next year's Snogltog with vikings celebrating meeting their dragons again all over New Berk.
    The end.
    So this way it makes sense in various ways and solves some questions:
    - H and A meet the baby dragons in N. Berk, but not T or the NF. Hence almost-feral Toothless scene;
    - The kids are meeting dragons for the first time because all the kerfuflle with the babies happened at night, while they were asleep, like regular kids should (notice how all the images of the baby dragons in snow are at night). Only when they reach the edge of the New World do they finally meet them.
    - Why did H and A only visit the dragons now, 10 years after? Because only when the babies finally grew their flight wings they could follow them to find the Hidden World again.
    - This is only the first Snogltog back with dragons. Or just meeting the dragons again was the perfect snogltog present for Hiccup. Nothing said that it had to happen regularly before the final scene of HTTYD3.
    Sorry for the long post, that's my theory, and I don't think it really can only happen by ruining HTTYD3. Now I'll just wait to see if I was close.

  • @Talis1717
    @Talis1717 Před 4 lety +9

    Omg I just realised, toothless’ babies have mature ear tufts wt....

    • @TheUnholyEmbodimentOfInsanity
      @TheUnholyEmbodimentOfInsanity Před 4 lety +2

      I think they are there by default because it’s their “main nubs” that help them express themselves.

  • @lethallizard_4493
    @lethallizard_4493 Před 4 lety +6

    LISTEN
    WE HAVE HAD 3 MOVIES AND 3 SHOWS AND 3 SHORT MOVIES
    LET THE SERIES REST

  • @IamDrDapper
    @IamDrDapper Před 2 lety +4

    Homecoming didn't ruin httyd
    Nine realms did

  • @fang609
    @fang609 Před 4 lety +1

    I am pretty sure that Toothless kid's sneak out after he showed them the drawing that explained"so where here and over on that island lives my human friend"and later Toothless and wife freak out and track them to New Berk, where they have caused all kinds of problems.

  • @aleksandrakrolak
    @aleksandrakrolak Před 4 lety +1

    Maybe Nightlights escaped on their own and only Hickup saw them, which motivated him to seek for Toothless? :P

  • @fastair8203
    @fastair8203 Před 4 lety +3

    My idea is that they were so tired from doing Abominable that they just put the wrong word.

  • @kmd.jdennis961
    @kmd.jdennis961 Před 4 lety +5

    Thank you in was soo confused when I was reading that page XD

  • @msmorningstar8686
    @msmorningstar8686 Před 4 lety +1

    HTTYD 3 Ending: Astrid and Hiccup got married, the Dragons went away to the hidden word.
    HTTYD Homecoming: What happened between the timeframe of Astrid and Hiccup’s Marriage (and had kids) with no dragons since Dragons already went to the Hidden world already and the Epilogue.
    HTTYD 3 “AFTER CREDITS” Toothless was just CAREFUL on meeting another human, even if it is Hiccup, Dragons (or any animals) will be cautious, and of course, any humans will be scared if any WILD Dragons (or animals) is in front of them.
    So technically, the HTTYD Homecoming took place AFTER the HTTYD 3 ending (which is when Hiccup and Astrid’s Marriage) and BEFORE the epilogue which we saw on the AFTER CREDITS.

  • @jamesvarela233
    @jamesvarela233 Před 4 lety +9

    Wha.......WHY? This whole Christmas episode is taking place before the ending for the third scene!!!!! I’m hoping this is some mistake that it’s taking place before the end of three there’s no way that Dreamworks would possibly do that at all.

  • @shockedbucket
    @shockedbucket Před 4 lety +7

    This can go 4 ways
    1: Say it’s not canon and call it a day.
    2: The person who made the website meant after HTTYD 3
    3: I get nachos and cheese
    4 I get better food than 3

  • @rainbowdragon4248
    @rainbowdragon4248 Před 4 lety +15

    wait this was uploaded recently? im not even subscribed and im earlier than most subs

  • @bheemanayaka7424
    @bheemanayaka7424 Před 4 lety +1

    They were like that because the humans are not allowed in the hidden world so that they got angry ,you know

  • @KaylaACNH_
    @KaylaACNH_ Před 3 lety

    Homecoming is the time gap between hiccup’s marriage and the last scene in the hidden world

  • @reshikrym1
    @reshikrym1 Před 4 lety +3

    This takes place before the ending of hidden world

  • @theimmortalsuperbeing549
    @theimmortalsuperbeing549 Před 4 lety +15

    Short answer no.
    Can you do A POV OF THE LIFE AND DEATH OFF THE RED DEATH please respect Alteori 🐲😃👍.
    Never giving up.

  • @InkerousCitaRik
    @InkerousCitaRik Před 4 lety +1

    I love the new intro!

  • @ARandomHandle214
    @ARandomHandle214 Před 4 lety +2

    Well, at least the promo pics look way better than the new trailer for Rescue Riders...lol

  • @beep898
    @beep898 Před 4 lety +8

    its honestly so powerful how they decide to protect the dragons. This entire series was Hiccup and crew trying to keep dragons safe and out of wrong hands, and they'd always be found. And they would be continue to be in danger as long as they're domesticated. So the fact that they choose to let the dragons be in nature is just.. damn i love this series

  • @kingsolomon673
    @kingsolomon673 Před 4 lety +9

    *I don't think Homecoming is really needed, but hey, more Dragons, and that's always a good thing, right?*

  • @unicornnumber1987
    @unicornnumber1987 Před 4 lety +1

    Just watch homecoming, and then everything will make sense, and you will see that it IS in fact, before the emotional epilogue.

  • @ikramhussain1534
    @ikramhussain1534 Před 4 lety +2

    If it dosent connect im still exited!
    Becouse im a big fan of dragons
    ESPACILLY black ones

  • @hannah_p
    @hannah_p Před 4 lety +3

    Though I love this franchise and everything it stands for, I don’t think they should have made this. However, I love that they’re making another short so I would have rathered a short before the third movie.

  • @johnathonfox4547
    @johnathonfox4547 Před 4 lety +3

    I guess were just gonna have to watch HTTYD Homecoming.

  • @Zodikal
    @Zodikal Před 4 lety

    I have now seen it and it actually fits into the storyline. It was a nice short. :)

  • @cosmicsevour1332
    @cosmicsevour1332 Před 4 lety +2

    I've watched HTTYD Homecoming a few weeks back, SPOILER: Toothless never saw Hiccups bearded face. This maybe explains why Toothless didn't recognize Hiccup in the last scene of The Hidden World Movie.

  • @theimmortalsuperbeing549
    @theimmortalsuperbeing549 Před 4 lety +20

    Alteori - B4 B4 B4 - 2019.
    Lol.

    • @kingsolomon673
      @kingsolomon673 Před 4 lety +1

      *Her main Android language*

    • @kingsolomon673
      @kingsolomon673 Před 4 lety +1

      @Johnathon M0554 your new here are ya?

    • @theimmortalsuperbeing549
      @theimmortalsuperbeing549 Před 4 lety +2

      Hi Alteori at 04:15 Astrads face is perfectly beautiful but at 06:32 WTF it looked like a Thomas the Tank Engine face the horror lol wth happened 😁.

  • @Mr.Wetherilli
    @Mr.Wetherilli Před 4 lety +29

    I'm going to be honest with you it kind of did

  • @zekezzekekan2144
    @zekezzekekan2144 Před 4 lety

    Dragons must have a really crappy sense of smell if Toothless had to get that close to hiccup to realize it was him.

  • @theberrby6836
    @theberrby6836 Před 4 lety +1

    They must not have actually seen each other AT ALL during this Holiday special, maybe to the extent of like, two separate storylines that don't converge, and *then* for the first time they meet is the Epilogue? That's what I can think of with this situation... :/ Eeh

    • @Ncholasbloom
      @Ncholasbloom Před 4 lety

      well we have to remember that gift of the night fury did the same thing having the dragons leave to lay their eggs only difference i

  • @crimsonshadowghost6549
    @crimsonshadowghost6549 Před 4 lety +3

    Well with things happening here and what I can hear so far about httyd homecoming is great and yeah I’m just glad that toothless did not hurt hiccup or his family at all but with truth I want to make another part of this story of my own choices to make this story still go on even if hiccup or toothless is not there well I still did watch rescue riders and hey it’s a show that’s pointed to preschoolers and for mine it’s more farther in the future at the point of either the Middle Ages or the now of the modern ages of from your point which would be better but to skip it is that’s even if it doesn’t make sense of this story but mine and I bet everyone here would like to have the same dream of making an amazing story like the trilogy of httyd but what I would hope for is that not just mine but every stories will apart with mine and for the record I won’t be a dumbass and take the credit for it but just give the equal creditor everyone but still as I’m hyped for it I hope you are too wait till the third of December! ;)

  • @BlueAmerican26
    @BlueAmerican26 Před 4 lety +5

    It's done, over, dead franchise.

  • @juststopmotion8307
    @juststopmotion8307 Před 3 lety

    I understand how the kids are scared because they were terrified but a large dragon can be scary

  • @britishrex5515
    @britishrex5515 Před 4 lety +2

    From the overview i read, it would make sense if the beginning happens before the epilogue, then the epilogue happens, then the rest of homecoming

  • @seabass9753
    @seabass9753 Před 4 lety +4

    How to train your dragon Homecoming, next How to train your dragon far from home.
    But in seriousness they shouldn’t do this mini movie

    • @aaryandherange1515
      @aaryandherange1515 Před 4 lety +2

      Sweet man . How about this : how to train you spider-dragon homecoming . Then - spider-dragon far from home

    • @seabass9753
      @seabass9753 Před 4 lety +1

      Aaryan Dherange lol, I would see the movie😂🤣

    • @aaryandherange1515
      @aaryandherange1515 Před 4 lety

      I know, right

    • @aaryandherange1515
      @aaryandherange1515 Před 4 lety +1

      @@seabass9753 plz Cal me just aaryan not aaryan dherange

  • @Nawmii
    @Nawmii Před 4 lety +1

    The nightlights looks like legit kittens lmao

  • @EzZONEify
    @EzZONEify Před 4 lety +2

    Well I think they make sense because as far as my understanding, the HTTYD Homecoming take place in between the ending and epilogue, obviously after Hiccup's wedding and before Hiccup sail to find Toothless, just my two cents

  • @pattygonzales5874
    @pattygonzales5874 Před 4 lety +1

    I love you vids!!!!!

  • @wawowie
    @wawowie Před 4 lety +1

    cthulhu vs scp 682
    IM NEVER GIVING UP

  • @SV7-2100
    @SV7-2100 Před 4 lety +1

    Maybe they didn't even met until the end of homecoming which is the end of the move

  • @jaydenanderson6823
    @jaydenanderson6823 Před 3 lety

    Remember how the end of how to train your dragon is 10 years be for the epilogue which means it could of Been one of many snogletog

  • @atcapo8957
    @atcapo8957 Před 3 lety

    It makes sense a little, because Toothless only sees Hiccup in the Toothless Costume and couldnt know how he is looking like after 10 years.
    He only hear and smells him.

  • @arcticdragon8593
    @arcticdragon8593 Před 2 lety +1

    Why haven't I heard about any of these new films? Never heard of how to train your Dragon: homecoming or gift of the night fury. Who has been keeping the secrets from an over the moon fan like me?

  • @BlackDahlia_Smile
    @BlackDahlia_Smile Před 4 lety

    I hope they make another one and get another producer to make another one cause it to damn good to throw the story away like that

  • @Sol-jw3sp
    @Sol-jw3sp Před 4 lety +1

    Soo... yeah,
    My theory is that it's after the marriage of hiccup and astrid
    And the ending of the last movie is the reuniting scene, maybe they will make something good
    :D

  • @thekingofmobileplayers.2659

    At the end of homecoming it says "I think its time we go visit them"

  • @robbomegavlkafenryka6158

    I think the hidden world sending all the dragons away kinda ruined the franchise. Toothless not really recognizing Hiccup is completely in line with Homecoming because he didn’t see his face. The kids being scared of Toothless is also fine because they’re kids and in Homecoming they didn’t really see him either.
    I really get the feeling she didn’t watch Homecoming.

    • @Vorticough
      @Vorticough Před rokem

      kinda ruining it is an understatement though

  • @sisteresa
    @sisteresa Před 4 lety

    Toothless and the human kids didn’t recognize each other because they never met until just now

  • @dino_dork
    @dino_dork Před 4 lety +1

    Trust me I thought the same thing but when I watched it, the short does line up with the epilogue. I’m not gonna spoil but just wait for the short to come out because it does line up/make sense.

  • @robertjv
    @robertjv Před 4 lety

    We just need to wait untill they announce another one in the near future if they want to create a sequal or not

  • @-courtcat-
    @-courtcat- Před 3 lety +1

    Alteory, if you actually watched how to train your dragon: home coming all the way through to the end you would of seen that toothless never got to see Hiccup's face and Hiccup's daughter was the only one who got to see toothless and she only saw toothless for probably 2 seconds so that's probably why she was so scared.

  • @SportySkater420
    @SportySkater420 Před 4 lety

    homecoming is probably going to be a bridge between homecoming and httyd 3 ending

  • @mohammadal-saadi1890
    @mohammadal-saadi1890 Před 2 lety

    Httyd is so nostalgic 😭 i will rewatch my childhood some day.

  • @Pearl-wp2zb
    @Pearl-wp2zb Před rokem +1

    hun, the franchise was ruined the minute httyd3 came out. also the kid not being scared of a nightlight that is the size of a dog compared to toothless who is the size of 2 tigers stacked on top of each other is a little understandable

  • @justadragonnamemarcus1751

    How to train your dragon : *GET OUT RESCUE RIDERS*

  • @Das112293
    @Das112293 Před 4 lety +1

    So, the Homecoming Christmas film takes place after Hidden world and not before. I'm okay with that, but if they meant to say it takes place before Hidden world then everything gets confused. Hopefully it's after the Hidden world.
    Anyway, another great video, Alteori, I like it, see you in the next one.

  • @ScorpiosYTG
    @ScorpiosYTG Před rokem +1

    7:38 *looks at the nine realms* boy how this video aged

  • @malekosmom2303
    @malekosmom2303 Před 4 lety +1

    Actually i don't know if they meant to put that in there in "before the epilogue" of the ending of the movie. Maybe it was a typo... I really don't know.

  • @NyriaTamare
    @NyriaTamare Před 4 lety +1

    Maybe the HTTYD Homecoming would only be about the nightlights sneaking off from their parents and into new berk? What if toothless and the lightfury didn't go to the christmass event.

  • @strikefallstudios
    @strikefallstudios Před 4 lety +1

    I hate to say this but you’re right AND you’re wrong.... Unfortunately it still wouldn’t make sense because of hiccup’s daughter had a moment of hating dragons...
    But granted: she was still young and we can say she did have a fun but short time with dragons until she uncovered the ugly side (the dragon book). She was even LESS scared when she met toothless at the stage than on the boat.
    Regardless, this is conflicting and controversial af and I rather ignore most of homecoming.

  • @TheWashington20
    @TheWashington20 Před 4 lety

    Don't know if someone has said this yet, but if ya'll paid attention to the leaks and promos, it only seems like the night lights get close to them cause they sneak out of the hidden world to look around and Toothless goes back to get them and they never interact with Hiccup and his kids, just get really close. I'm assuming similar to the end of Race to the Edge where the Bewilderbeast makes a cameo but doesn't reveal himself fully until the 2nd movie. they arent going to meet and spend time together. The Homecoming film will act almost like a "recap" sort of thing (i'm assuming) just to get the audience acquainted with Hiccup and Astrid's kids since we had very little interaction with them and who they are in the 3rd movie, now we will learn who they are in the Homecoming special. and maybe a little about the night lights too, since the special will focus on the kids and the night lights

  • @Suuki727
    @Suuki727 Před 4 lety +1

    How stoick voice actor is in the list is becuz when they r trying to decide who is who in the play they were looking for stoick actor and they put the voice on fishleg xd also it's a "before" Becuz on the ending of the httyd homecoming hiccup saw toothless and Astrid said:
    Maybe it's time for us to visit them!