What If FRIEZA Always TRAINED? | Dragon Ball Super
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- What If Frieza trained since the Destruction of Planet Vegeta?
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The thought of Frieza training early has been at the forefront of our minds as Dragon Ball fans since Resurrection F. The self proclaimed Emperor of the Universe made a drastic leap in power - going from the power he displayed on Namek, to godly levels of power in his final form - which is actually his base form - to even surpassing the power of a Super Saiyan God with his Golden Form.
While characters like Goku needed a ritual to just become a Super Saiyan God and Vegeta needed specific training from a being stronger than the gods themselves to match that power - Frieza did...basic training with some nobody for like four months.
Now, I often exclude Frieza’s potential in what if’s due to how broken it truly is and how it undermines most stories if used - like say giving it to Cell and having Cell train with it. Today is an exception though. In today’s Dragon Ball what if we cross the boundaries of Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball Super to find out what would happen if Frieza had trained since the destruction of Planet Vegeta or more appropriately - What If Frieza ALWAYS trained? Always meaning the time in the series we actually see since we don't know when Frieza was born.
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Goku and Vegeta: Decades of battle experience and personal training from the highest of beings to gain godly powers
Frieza: Hits the home gym for a few months
Pretty much nail it
@@75JUNAKI NAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIL
@@FreyOdyssey Nice pun
Gotta love retcon
@@FreyOdyssey
What is it Guru?
Beerus: it would take you a million years to get as strong as me!
Frieza: how about thirty, take it or leave it.
Probably like 2 years
"Three. Take it or leave it."
0. Take it or leave it.
@@batsbat8664 lamao berrus still beat hakaishin mui gogeta
@@S0.Ahnaf_ beerus gets clapped by frieza that trains for an extra minute
The fact that Black Frieza exists now makes this What-If A LOT more terrifying.
Frieza can get to Ultra Ego and Ultra Instinct levels of power and surpass them in 10 years. 40 years he could probably solo all of the G.O.D’s and probably take on some angels
@@bocobipbrookiebradgaming7838 I wouldn't doubt it, he'd be a true Universal Emperor with his insane potential.
@@SNC995 multiversal emperor
@@Ivan19271 he might even rival with a slight KI advantage over Zeno's guards
@@averyb4250 yea
Given the existence of Black Frieza, this is definitely not an exaggeration.
Hot dog hot dog hot diggidy yes
Black Frieza ooooor etnian Freeza
Universe 7's mortal level: Aight Imma head out
Its supposed to be average so if he kills everyone it would rise
HA!!!!!!!
The TOP was already an idea though, Goku was just the catalyst for the gods to execute the plan, I think that a top arc would be amazing in this series. I would also love to see this developed like the "goku landing on beerus's planet what if"
@@roeital5504 actually no it’s been stated that U7 is among the worst in terms of mortal levels however no matter how long Freeza trains he could never naturally reach Zeno’s level as I’m positive that zeno could likely take well over a 100 of every combatant in the ToP at the same time this is a guy who could and in a way did wipe out an entire multiverse with no effort at all
@@generalscott9800 No there would be no Top arc. It only took place because Zeno had seen the Tournament of Destroyers. In this series, the universe would actually be erased
"Hohoho... you don't scare me anymore, Lord Beerus.."
ohh no
Notice how he says lord beerus when his not scared of him 🤔
The disrespect about to be real
@@hydrapierce8605 he still respects him to an extent I guess
You idiot when has Goku feared beeris you clearly don't watch dbs
Ginyu would be absolutely ESTATIC to train with lord Frieza!! Such an honor!!!
🤣🤣🤣
TONKUSENTEI !!!
Being ecstatic is an understatement
More like a drug addict finding a literal mountain size of cocaine
This video was Awesome I like to see more asap please I ready for next one asap please a part 2
Black frieza is cannon 10 years of training for frieza is insane
Bro he made this a year ago, black Frieza wasn't even idealized in 2021
@@TrueVanaheim Maybe he could make an update video later on.
@@UnwantedGhost1 no
@@TrueVanaheim possibly he would
@@TrueVanaheim It's possible, so yeah.
Moro: I have magic
Granola: I have two sets of balls
Zeno: I have a button
Jack Sparrow: I got a jar of dirt, I got a jar of dirt, and guess what's inside it!
Super Shenron: Ask any wish you desire and I will grant it to you. No restrictions, no limits.
Frieza: I wish to be an All-Powerful Supreme Being! A being more powerful than any in existence! A being that will always win in a battle! A being that has become THE TRUE GOD!!!
Dyou kmow where to watch db temp 2 for free?
@@darksteal568 This is a classic meme from 2011 and I love it! 😂
Should be Goku: I have a button not Zeno
You see, Lord Beerus, you are not dealing with the average space Napoleon anymore
you see, lord beerus, you're not dealing with the average *not* arcozian anymore
You see, Lord Beerus, you aren’t dealing with the average Universal Emperor anymore
You see Lord Beerus, you’re not dealing with the average that thing chi-chi keeps in her drawer anymore.
You see, Lord Beerus, you are not dealing with the average space Hitler anymore
“He has become the legendary space hitler”
Honestly the moment Beerus caught a single whiff of this, he would've dealt with this far sooner imo.
You and I both know beerus is to lazy for that 😂
@@alexlarose1627 He might be lazy but nothing motivates him more than his own existence being put on the line. The moment supreme kai arrives to wake him up saying they've got a problem is when we actually see GoD Beerus in action.
@@921tensazangetsu if he was sleeping he wouldnt have, and also he is too lazy to do anything
@@rarescevei8268 whis would have told beerus had he known
bro beerus woulda been asleep what are u talking about?
If Frieza always trained he would reach a form more insane than MUI Goku and UE Vegeta called… Black Frieza.
😉
No way! You predicted the future!
Frieza has the n word pass now?
@@Juniper.Ajadel Dear God😯
@@josephgutierrez8768 it existed at that time bro
"you know what the difference between you and i is, cell? you can punch a board and it'll break in half, i can punch a board and wipe out its entire race"
LOL
"But can you block?"
*Turns Golden* "I don't need to.."
I heard that somewhere else but I don’t know where
@Eros Matthew Montallana which video
@Eros Matthew Montallana yeah which one?
If Frieza trained from birth then he'd likely never fear the Saiyans at all and thus would never destroy Planet Vegeta.
True
He's really the true prodigy
Agreed
He would probably do it just in case.
@@luftwaffebomber1340 yea, he would believe he’s the strongest then and there, both cases he’d still make sure
this aged well
Freezer Negro proves it
@@selu10 my nigga
@@selu10 ?????
@@Samuel-ig3ln he means black
@@YourFavouriteInternetGuy are you black
Carthus been real quit since that last manga ch.87 dropped. 👀👀👀
Yeah, his Black form took 10 years of training. So try over 4 times that. It surpasses ui and ue without any issue
Bro i swear if frieza gets another form even beyond black frieza i wouldnt be surprised if he was beating up whis or zeno
I wouldn't go that far
A new form could be likely though
@@blackphoenix448 Black Frieza already surpassed that, he literally oneshotted TUI Goku and UE Vegeta
Frieza was so lazy, he destroyed an entire race of monkeys because he was afraid that their legendary transformation (the lowest stage too) was going to be stronger than him sitting in his floating chair.
He could have literally done one sit up and slap Super Saiyan 2 into extinction.
Funny thing is he could have did 20 pushups in hiding from goku and whooped his ass
Freeza by all logic of Super should have surpassed Goku during their fight and stomped him into space dust.
@Ricardo Akins In what world are we wrong, in 4 months Freeza went from low SSj tier to beyond anything Vegetto was capable of at his best.
Frieza has limits .bcoz is powerful from his birth.but even Saiyans aren't that strong when born,they have no limits.
@@norecoilgaming8911 zero evidence of that, Freeza only ever trained for four months and in hell, in both cases he surpassed two people "with no limits".
Rip Goku and the main cast lmao this is Freeza Ball Z now 😂
Its not called Goku Ball Z tho
How bout dragon ball FT ( Frieza time)
@@GlacikingTheIceColdKing Nicerrr
@@cereal9879 it doesn’t matter tho
XD freeza ball z xD
this aged amazingly
Now you can start this series again as the Moro arc and Granolah arc is over
@Rafamigo but granola would wish to be the strongest so
Your Frieza voice is so accurate
Edit: I didn’t expect this to be my most liked comment, thanks everyone 🙏
ikr
Try Masako's Frieza voice, it's literally perfect
@@isaacomdoisas yep i agree it is spot on
Yooooo...I actually almost forgot it wasn't really him at first.
Agreed
Frieza: you may be a god Beerus.....but I’m a child killing, people enslaving, galactic tyrant
And a femboy enthusiast, clearly (Zarbon)
And I'd rather die a million more time before I pretend otherwise
@Bartandalus Blue Do you belive now?
I just had an image where Frieza is clapping his ass cheeks on Beerus’ corpse after reading this
HFIL reference?
You nailed the prediction considering Frieza getting the Black form made him strongest in the universe.
*strongest mortal
@@KackfeeLP That assumes Beerus is stronger than he is shown to be in the manga. Ultra Instinct Goku and Ego Vegeta got one tapped after being healed(probably receiving a zenkai) after watching the strongest character up to that point die. Beerus better be hiding some secret technique.
@@KackfeeLP belmod was able to injure all gods of destruction jiren surpasses belmod goku surpassed jiren in top and got much stronger through out the Moro saga training with merus in a hyperbolic time chamber and the granolah saga and gas surpassing all of who I’ve mentioned previously then we have black frieza killing gas with ease and one shotting tui goku and ue vegeta,Black frieza could definitely take on a god of destruction and beat them
@@SonGoku-hi8ow Ultra Instinct Beerus: are you sure about that
@@user-vo1ku9xy4d did you not just read what I said
Now this brings up a very interesting what if battle: GoD Frieza vs GoD Kakarot
Frieza: Ooohohohohoho, someone wishes to challenge me? Fool, I am the ultimate being!
Kakarot (thinking): His power, it''s ridiculous. And I can tell he's still holding back. I need to end this quickly.
Kakarot then powers up to MUI, and appears in front of Frieza.
Kakarot: *HAKAI.*
This woude be rely intesting
@@theultimatememelord5494 I imagine a Frieza who enjoys to train would very quickly learn ultra instinct (nearly every level of it) and be second to the grand priest.
@@Listlesseye haha no frieza’s destructive and malicious mind could not handle ultra instinct as it is stated in the manga that one’s mind must be calm and tranquil to use ui
@@Apersonfarfaraway We're talking about a different Frieza however, Goku wasn't always calm and tranquil but here we are, stands to reason that Frieza who has trained for decades and decades would know how to calm himself and get into it.. also Beerus who is literally a god of destruction who is malicious and destructive by nature has touched Ultra instinct at some point..
"Its over Beerus, ive become the legend! The legend you fear! The legendary golden Freeza!!!"
Beerus:Hakai.
Frieza : was that supposed to do something
@@omnipotencebeyondlogic1786
Yeah, I wrote that comment at the beginning of the video.
@@omnipotencebeyondlogic1786 Beerus bytch you haven't even seen me full power, you think the writers like you more than me haha only goku has a chance against me. I would say vegeta but somehow he would get hoed
@@AFTWKING all frieza have to do is 100 pushup in order to surpass beerus full power
Well, Black Frieza just answered this
I fully agree with the idea that cell actually has less potential than Frieza and would lose. The only reason he had more potential than the z fighters was because of Frieza!
Wait, why would Cell have less potential? He has Frieza's dna and the limit breaking dna of saiyans, along with super-charged regeneration how is that not a winning combo?
@@snapeinvader6208 Thats a good point. Presumably the dna of others would limit his dna. There is a hybrid power boost for saiyans, so I could be wrong. I think the reasoning some have had is that his crazy potential is unique to his physiology and not the inherited physiology of cell. Frieza is actually a mutant of his species so it might not be the same has inheriting dna. You have to be Frieza to use it rite.
@@peterpoulos6553 if it was esoteric, like comparing Gohan's potential to future trunks, that's one thing. Anything biological Cell had access to was amped, like Piccolo's namekian regeneration going from regrowing limbs to regrowing a body from a single cell.
@@snapeinvader6208 well, as Carthu has already said in a previous video, higher potential can still be diluted by weaker potential and vice versa in absorption fighters
@@peterpoulos6553no such bullshit as was shown in the show, Cell was able to utilize and enhance the original capability and talent of his assimilated cells, such as when he was able to regenerate from a single cell, lightyears advance than piccolos regeneration, as well as learn goku's technique instantly and even overpower goku's saiyan talent.
The main gist of Cell is, "cell" he was made from top fighter cells and he was able to make every bit of it stronger, more powerful, and ultimately, perfect. Your assumptions wont really apply as it is a contradiction to Cells feats.
I swear DBS really needs to retcon the amount of training Frieza did and his potential, because, good potential or not, training for FOUR months and reaching beyond God after being below Namek Saga is some absolute bullcrap.
I know
If that was true he could just do the same now that he was revived
Completely stupid I agree!
Rn if he trained for just a week he'd easily be SSGSSE Vegeta level
They should've just made him find the hyperbolic time chamber.
It’s already been stated frieza was a mutant among his own species having the most potential out of all his species having more forms but I think they should push the amount to atleast a year imo
This better get a part 2 where he discovers the multiverse
Yes
“Cell, did you destroy South Galaxy?”
“There’s a South Galaxy?”
“Forget I said that”
@@llawliet8496 "no.."
"Our talks are nice"
Frieza: “it’s free real estate”
i'd love to see that and see him "fight" jiren.
Short answer : black frieza
Long answer : black frieza
@Wah Person so truest
I truly think Reason why he wasn't much stronger in the Broly movie was he hit a wall in his training. A strong initial boost in power from lack of training/attrafee of his body caused his power to skyrocket after training if you ever worked out then stopped for a long period and tried to do any of the same workouts you would find yourself unable to do or keep up with yourself. now looking into Frieza you would see he never trained to begin with so he had a lot of potential growth but that initial growth will hit a wall. So it is unfair to make it seem like his potential would never end or he would be more like Brolly and his power level would skyrocket in a fight.
This video was Awesome I like to see more asap please I ready for next one a part 2 I want to see broly transform in to legendary Super Saiyan Blue against Golden frieza I want to see who will win
this was no longer the answer because of the recent chapter in super
this aged poorly
This comment aged like fine milk
@@ChariotrequiemiscoolokNot really.
We don’t know how much Frieza has improved outside of his new form. That’s what usually happens in dragon ball, when you hit a wall you try something else. So he made a new form. Also it was 10 whole years, way longer then the 4 months he needed to unlock Golden
I feel like this can be continued. Lord Frieza introduction to the Grand Priest and mortal levels would be a thing I would love to see since Frieza is also the reason the mortal levels are down
This 👏👏
What are mortal levels?
@@bigbosspanda1976 Mortal Levels are a system used to rate and evaluate the Universes in DragonBall. It’s why the ToP had Universes 1, 5, 8 and 12 excluded from participating, since they were so high
@@aetherialbeing4223 evaluate what about the universes? Power level?
@@bigbosspanda1976 not exactly, mainly how well the universe is doing in terms of mortal growth, how peaceful it is, how intelligent the people are etc…
4 months training = Google
50 years training = Googleplex
everything gangsta until the devil guy who fighted goku in the og db pulls up
Lol , little hatred = hearth explodes , pure evil = what the heck will happen
Honestly a Frieza who trained from birth would probably also be more focused, disciplined and level headed as well funnily enough. It'd actually be pretty cool seeing Frieza in the absolute fullness of his potential and what decisions he'd make. Now if Frieza had an actual proper experienced teacher, his power would also be refined as well.
Maybe Cooler could be the Frieza that’s trained even surpassing Beerus and becoming the GoD of universe 7 for a while
His father maybe
,,The only one standing infront of friezas rule of the universe..."
*Ad starts playing*
,,ITS YOU! YES YOU!"
I Died because the narrator in the Ad sounded so similar to carthu xD
That sounds like it was the PERFECT setup.
this whole time I was waiting for black frieza to show but I didn't look at the date of this vid
Regardless. After 55 years of endless training since the destruction of Planet Vegeta, Frieza has evolved to the point where it’s basically impossible to beat him with brute force alone
9:40 is a perfect freeza line 😂.
“Ooh, Frieza would 100% say that. Noice.”
Why is no one talking about how AMAZING this guys Freiza voice is?
Good job you sound realy like him
Is sounding like Frieza really a compliment
@@lelouchvibritannia7283 his voice is awesome, so yes
I know right??? Sadly the real voice actor died couple months ago. Do you think he could take the new position for frieza's VA?
@@thejohnson2328 there’s already a understudy for freiza, he’s already been used in some parts of the anime and the entirety of fighterZ. He’s valid tbh and he sounds exactly like freiza. Carthu is good lmnl
plot twist : Carthu is Frieza in real life and that is what happened before we were born
Unrelated to the what if but just wanna say Rip to the original Japanese composer for Dbz Shunsuke Kikuchi
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Black Frieza: OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
I think Frieza would have achieved a form that surpasses his golden form
This aged like fine wine
Nigga frezia
black frieza
Yeah, he said that frieza trained for 2 decades before super sayian and it only took 10 years for normal black.
Next form after black frieza is going to be god frieza
I’ve always thought about this question
Same
Same
Me too
Death to all. That's what would happen
I think frieza would be too strong so universe 7 would be erased
In other words, what if he was the Main Character and just constantly won.
more like one punch man but evil
@@SahilSingh-fn6so evil one punch alien without a nose.
In another universe and dimension this was how dragonball - dragonball super.
What if he IS the main character and we're just watching it from a different point of view?
@@pqbdwmnu what if frieza is actually doing good cus the people he enslaves are evil but in goku's eyes they're good
I believe frieza would learn the most within the first year or so and then improvements from training would slow down very quickly the only reason he improved so fast is because he never trained before and didn't even know the basics which are everything
Yeah about that....
idk about that one chief
Bro frieza in hell after ressurection f was only doing image training and that image training was him just killing goku over and over again and even with that he was relative to ssb goku this ssb goku was training with vegeta in the time chamber for 3 years and also he had a really big increase in power after the goku black arc
Black Frieza!
This didn't aged well... Frieza literally surpassed both MUI and UE
I loved this story. It was engaging and you addressed all the DBZ/S events really well. I agree that Freeza will overpower both Perfect Cell and Buu. But I don't think Freeza would be able to defeat Beerus with his current training regiment. In Revival of F, Freeza was made aware of the events of Battle of Gods (and also possibly god ki) by his henchmen. And I think that knowledge proved to be the key to getting Freeza to be as strong as Super Saiyan Blue. He had a more solid goal to reach. Meanhwhile, here, all he has is the knowledge that Beerus is stronger than Buu - which considering how God Ki works, is not enough of a measuring stick.
Also, I think people really overestimate the " only 4 months" thing too much. This kind of power-up is pretty common in DBZ/S and it is usually followed by a plateau or stopping point until a new challenge appears. Although Freeza's power-up is probably the most drastic out of all of them.
I think the biggest reason for such a huge jump in Freeza's power is simply because Freeza actually learned how to use his Ki and powers properly. I think most people forget that Freeza had such little Ki flexibility, that he could not even do basic Ki sensing during the Namek arc. ALL Freeza could do was throw his power around. When thinking about it in that way, it kinda makes sense that Freeza got so powerful so quickly.
I hope they create a reason for this or something like the freeza race can reach their full potential very quickly but can barely make an progress beyond that
imagine frieza is like a fusion of all his race other than king cold or sum shit lmao
no frieza has a power level of 1.1 sextillion in the broly movie 11 times more than in revival of f
@@mr.tactical3831 dbza vegeta: POWER LEVELS ARE BULLSHIT!
It makes sense, the Frieza races whole thing seems to be personal biology manipulation and the ability to evolve rapidly.
Frieza and King Cold are mutants of their race, making them far more cruel and much stronger than the others of their race usually are.
Whis: well, shit... what ever am I to do now? Guess I’ll train this golden boi then. Say, Freeza was it? You wouldn’t happen to know of a planet with tasty food, would you? Preferably something sweet, I have this strange void inside that I feel tempted to fill with sugary treats.
Freeza: well, I can check if in my empire there's a planet where people make good sweets.
Frieza: Wait, why would I care about your gluttonous desires? Tell me Whis, who’s the God here?
@@titanictnt7476 oh shit! Shots fired
Frieza got 10 years of training and got black 40 years is crazy
This aged very well
Ik 😂😂😂😂
This aged so well it ended up in my reccomended and i dont even watch dragon ball. I just heard about black friza not to long ago lol
Very very well
That is the most accurate frieza impression I have ever heard
Frieza: You can't defeat me. Goku: I know but he can. Grand Zeno
he would have to get past whis's dad first, whos like the strongest angel.
@@nox_luna Frieza technically didn't break any rules because he contended for the position of the god of destruction and won.
@@ScruffyGamerAnimations yeah
Also a tyrant being the dog then the mortal level would be lower then u9 which is a waste land
U mean zenny?
Who come back here after Black Frieza's reveal?
Me
Always good vids with this guy ngl
The darkest timeline of all time and I love it
@ZyleUI lmao that be really scary what if lol
@ZyleUI lol
@ZyleUI oh no you doing to much
Lol no one would survive
What if this version of Frieza fought the God of destruction Kakarot from the other series?
@@llawliet5767 oof I have to say without ultra instinct frieza would clap him
You missed a opportunity to say "I'm you but better" with Cell Carthu
True
I feel like this is a TFS reference
@@mosh3173 no, no it isnt.
13:40 to be fair, Broly OCCASIONLY trained with Paragus who is definitely weaker than the frieza soldier that trained with Frieza.
The only training he got from Paragus was form and technique if anything. He did NOT gain and power from training with him.
@@ruisurengai ultra ego broly
And ssj 3 paragus + dragon balls power would be enough to handle broly's power
Tagoma was equal to SSJ Gohan. Obviously he’s way above Paragus.
In a sense compared to other characters in the show frieza is damn near a gag character that they limit on purpose, realistically speaking the only the stopping him from doing this in the main story is plot, if frieza was the lead of the story and he had that same fear why wouldn’t he train all 55 years
Sees working as beneath him he is proud to be born powerful thinks working for that is bad. It's not plot that's his personality
Yo this what if actually scared the crap out of me. The way he described Frieza's potential and him even being able to beat Beerus to a pulp, yeah I think that everyone should be scared.
Now please, imagine this Freeza then learning the basics he likely never bothered with under Whis. Now add Ultra Instinct on top plus the power Whis' training can unlock.
Moro who?
Zeno starts sweating.
Zeno wouldn't even blink at him. He'd just wipe away the Universe.
This video was Awesome I like to see more asap please I ready for next one I want to see broly transform in to legendary super saiyan blue against Golden frieza on Beerus planet I want to see who will win in fight legendary super saiyan blue broly fighting Golden frieza
@@damikohunter8224 Bro regular super saiyan broly destroyed golden frieza, Broly blue is just overkill lmao
Freeza's power scaling in this video is based on the idea that his power increase would be linear and proportional to the increase in Resurrection F, but that seems really unlikely
People keep saying that but there’s no reason it would slow down. 💀
@@christhefiend There very much is. Thats literally how everything works. In real life, there is a period of rapid development for people who start working out, and then the rate slows down. In the Dragon Ball, the humans in the Z force have slowed down. Same for piccolo, although farther ahead because he's Namekian. The same doesn't apply to Goku and Vegeta only because they're main characters, and in fact they were slowing down as well before Super and God Ki happened. It's natural for growth to not be consistent and linear.
This video was Awesome I like to see more asap please I ready for a part 2 I want to see broly transform in to legendary Super saiyan Blue against Golden frieza on beerus planet I want to see who will win
@@damikohunter8224 freeza wins easy end of story
Still think so 🤣?
I like to imagine this power up was a plateau for Frieza. Even later on in the series when Goku recruits him for TOP he gets a little bit stronger, but not a ridiculous power up. What's to stop him from training non stop right now in the series and destroying Beerus and the z-fighters aside from plot armor.
If he trained for 4 months and got to ssjb level, imagine years of it
He would probably be angel level minus the ultra instinct
@@broham4369 yeah, but do you really think he would grow at the same rate as he did in those 4 months? A lot of his potential was released during those months, so it would only make sense for him to grow slower
@@hamzahhussain7090 true, but he literally goes from less than super saiyan 1 to above super saiyan blue in 4 months. A dip in that extreme of an exponential curve is still above a more normal training method like sparring, even with the saiyans’ potential not being too bad themselves.
@@shwingcrimson8202sorry i dont really understand since im half asleep rn but what youre saying is that doing friezas training with his potential that hadnt been released yet is above normal sparring like how goku and vegeta would . If thats what youre trying to say i 100% agree.
@@hamzahhussain7090 sorry for the late response, but yes. That is what im saying
What is this, a three video streak?
Kinda hype for Frieza to pimp slap beerus
Omg that Frizer voice is so on point👌👌👌nice acting
The only change I make in this what if is that Frieza would transform in his new Black form from the manga just to ensure his victory against Beerus.
His Golden Form after 55 years of training and evolving is more than enough. No Black required.
@@calvinkopp1735True, but that couldn't stop him from achieving the new form. Maybe after taking Beerus's position just in case of any threats.
The mere thought of Frieza training like goku terrifies and excites me
God damn that frieza voice is kinda on point. And the cell voice improved a lot
Now with black frieza we know that his growth didnt slow down.
Your impressions are on point!
I just know he's gonna be angel level or even higher
Probably not he has a soul and having a soul comes with a power barrier
@@AEAE- Since when kiddo
@@AlwaysStayWorkin since the manga
@@Joe32627 Nope that was never stated chief
@@AlwaysStayWorkin You sure?
Some scenarios:
By canon, everyone is screwed
By plot armour, the zenkai boosts Goku receives will be ridiculous.
By a certain other CZcamsr (not naming but you know), Goku would gain a ridiculous new form
For that last one definitely a man with "T23" as the last 3 letters of his username
the last option is very close to what toriyama would do.
Ui kaioken ?
I’d have a to agree with you wholeheartedly there LOL
@@ertoreo4041 ok that’s broken
With the new release of black frieza, this video is spot on
This is ironic, considering since Frieza trained in the manga recently he's stronger then both Vegeta and Goku at FP
I've always wondered if the reason Frieza grew so much in Resurrection of F was because of "newbie gains" of some kind
Did you get your answer?
Nah he just built different
Your Frieza voice is amazing.
It crazy how now in 2022 we have Goku black who trained in the hyperbolic time chamber for 10 years and surpassed Goku Vegeta, and the strongest being in the universe. He easily one shot them and demonstrated how he probably has the greatest potential in the entire series considering month or a decade is enough get really powerful. Where it would take the best saiyans decades of hyperbolic time chamber, and countless battles to even survive one attack. Frieza is the true top G.
Black frieza not goku black
@@user-vo1ku9xy4d you prob forgor Freeza asked shenron to trade body with Goku Black, so he could have more potential
@@Bruno-yn9vp lol
You actually did a great Frieza impression. Just wanted to get that out there. 🎉
The only thing that can be argued with here is that cell had his own kind of transformations beyond his perfect form. After all he has saiyan, namekian, and frost demon cells. Also perfect cell was born with a power level many times over friezas born power level so wouldn’t his potential be much greater than friezas? Too many uncertainties with cell but besides that I luv the what if.
A Frieza who trains is a deadly Frieza. He is the best dbz villain
I personally believe that, while he does have insane potential, this immense growth was largely due to the fact that he had never trained before. He was essentially born with this large power. Like if he was really capable of growing as you describe here, he probably would have done that instead of recruiting Broly. I know its just for fun, but yeah it probably wouldnt work this way. he would be op though
He doesnt want to train because he knows it will become too easy to beat people and is embarresed that he had to train to catch up to goku and vegeta
Well it was a good theory for the time
Now this Frieza vs God of Destruction Kakarot
You have actual talent as a voice actor. Your Frieza voice is REALLY good! Keep up the good work.
I mean, if he became stronger than a god in 4 months, like 10 years of his broken ass potential he'd wipe out whis lmao
@Overto yeah!!; With 10yrs of training he would be at Grand Priest Level Imoa!!!
Bro his power lvl was like 1m something at birth, gokus was like 5 so just imagine if he had trained for his entire life
@@senatorarmstrong2100 Abour 60 million actually, since he was born in his final form. His other transformations are suppressors that he created.
@@titanictnt7476 His power level probably rose as he grew up at least, but either way we should consider 120 million as his baseline as the 50% is still technically suppressed.
I'm such a Broly fan boy. I always love his appearances and everyone just being overwhelmed.
WELL WELL WELL, Would you look at that
The rate of growth in the beginning of any training routine is always huge at first and eventually it slows down
For example if you join a gym you're more prone to see a lot of muscle increase and fat loss in the first 4 months of training, after that it gets stale
I believe it's the same with Frieza, he would power up but not at the same rate as in the beginning of his training. I agree that he'd beat everyone with the exception of beerus, simple due to the fact the he didn't have enough time to get to that level of power
Yes but that doesn't have to apply to a universe with cat Gods and lre pubescent galactic tyrants
@@jakepalmer4690 don't see why not, they're human like beings with human like physiology, there's no reason to believe it's not the case
@@pedromonteiro8484 dude jts an anime
@@jakepalmer4690 yeah, but you're the one who debated it first i mean .. i was just giving my thoughts on the matter, i don't think that's really an argument "iTs jUsT aN aNiMe" .. if you don't care don't comment on it smh
@@pedromonteiro8484 yeah jts just an anime so you can't hold it to real world standards. Saiyans having "similarities" to humans is bullshit, they're magic money men who can destroy galaxies with a finger, frieza is only going to have diminishing returns if the writers say so
Man...This what if is so creepy the music and how Frieza's potential is so strong I really loved this what if.
Something I feel you forgot to mention in this one, but usually do in your others, is that characters in DBZ train much faster with a goal in mind. Basically everyone reached Raditz level in a year and training in the HTC for Cell saw great gains, but in the several months between Namek and Future Trunks showing up no one grew in power significantly, same with the 7 years between Cell and Buu. Frieza would've known of Goku and Vegeta's power after being resurrected and worked to surpass that in those 4 months, while in this story he doesn't have any power to aim towards. He knows Beerus is strong, but hasn't seen him fight (AFAIK) so that wouldn't be a goal he could aim for. While I don't disagree with the results of the "What if", I do disagree with the repetitive pointing out of Resurrection F's training and extrapolating those 4 months with a clear goal to 40 years with no goal.
now we’re about to see about this “what if” im so excited
Killed it!
I would imagine this Freeza would be much more calm headed as well. It’s one thing to think you’re the best; it’s a whole other thing to know.
Carthu’s Frieza force is actually amazing.
I thought the idea of him getting a huge boost with training was like him actually being able to use his potential. It's like if someone who is naturally very athletic never trains, they can run or something relatively well but their bodies are untrained and unconditioned. I'd like to think it's like this anyway, so then he can't become unbelievably strong from an additional 4 months of training...
I'm writing a similar story where young Frieza is brought to his OP grandfather, who forces Frieza into brutal training until he can kill him, giving reason behind Frieza's cruel personality. "Frieza my grandson, once you start training there will be no reason to fear your enemies because your potential is far greater then any threat you will face." When Frieza finally kills his grandfather he is forged into a living weapon and never stops training, always gaining more power in fear someone surpassing him. By the time Frieza invades the Earth he discovers Cell in fetus form, learns of his purpose and instead of killing him right there takes him to his scientists with a goal of becoming Frieza's very own living weapon, a son and a future heir. In this timeline ALL androids are present on Earth and are competing who will kill Son Goku first, Frieza takes advantage and reprograms the androids into serving him for all of their lifetime. With tensions growing higher, Frieza locates Babidi and Buu and kills them on the spot, right afterwards preparing for an attack against Beerus himself.
Firstly: First video I've seen by you. I like the scenario rundown you did here and I also appreciate your taking into account ripple effects that I figure most folks would miss (the change in Frieza affecting Cell and the difference in the amount of time that would pass given Cell's free reign over the planet).
Beyond that, I've had quite a few thoughts, myself, on how Frieza's rapid growth in super reconciles with the series before and afterwards. A lot of thinking on ki, power, and power level in general. And what conclusion I've ultimately come to is that your power level is effectively your physical attributes times your ki output. Granted, this is all just post-hoc no prizing, I doubt Toriyama gave this any consideration. But still, it's a fun thought experiment.
This makes Frieza's being able to train himself up to being in the realm of Super Saiyan Blue in four months while *also* not being able to get much stronger than that as quickly make sense. Effectively, Frieza lived a sedentary life style outside of the occasional fight with someone he couldn't murder with a wrist flick. Hell, he didn't even bother to fly on his own power or even *walk* most of the time, choosing instead to travel in his little hover round. He just had naturally insane ki output. Four months of intensive training basically gave him all of his beginner gains, catching his body up to where someone who trained to have Frieza's crazy ki output should be. And then he plateaued. He can't get that much stronger much faster because he's now as in shape as he's gonna get without committing to the kind of lifestyle Goku and Vegeta have.
If that were the case, and Frieza committed to training from the very beginning, I still think your scenario plays out much the same. Frieza would have a couple of decades of living that life on Goku. But it also reconciles the series.
hell no frieza already has n word pass
I like your style dog, some of these DBZ fanfic things idk but I like this
“You see Cell, you’re weighed down. The blood of monkeys and slugs soils whatever you’ve gained from me!”
Couldn’t have put it better. Frieza is only 10%-20% of Cell’s DNA tops. People who give him things like Golden Cell never account for that fact; he can’t have 100% of Frieza’s potential because he’s not 100% Frieza.
In a way Cell is hindered just as much by being an amalgamation as he is bolstered by it.
“Tell me, Cell. Do you know the difference between you and I? You’re weighed down. The power of monkeys and slugs soils whatever you’ve gained from me!”
I don't see it that way, the story implies that Cell's design improves over all of the DNA used to make him. His zenkai boosts were massive, his durability was insane (survived as a single cell which Frieza who is the most durable of his source material can't do) and his regeneration far surpasses natural Namekian regeneration.
He should be able to do everything Frieza can just as good.
How do you explain cell’s super charged regeneration factor despite only having a fraction of piccolo’s cells?
@@kingbling9141 He has Frieza’s survivability and Piccolo’s regeneration. Those two things combined make Cell’s regeneration far more potent than Piccolo’s. This is an example of him being bolstered by him being an amalgamation.
@@kalawaki then what prevents the assumption that combining frieza’s and the saiyans’ potential for battle power and transformations increases cell’s own potential? combining frieza’s and piccolo’s durability and regeneration evidently results in an increased regeneration factor, so why not the transformation and battle potential as well?
I haven’t stopped smiling since the video had start this is truly a wonderful video
The Frieza who trains
The Batman who laughs
There's some sort of a connection here, but I can't fully put my finger on it