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  • What If Universe 7 had time to train in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber before the Tournament of Power?
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    Before the Tournament of Power, there is only a 40 hour window for the 8 Universes involved to assemble their teams, but this doesn't leave enough time for Universe 7 and the Z Fighters to train before the final arc of Dragon Ball Super had to begin. However, what if there were 72 hours before the Tournament of Power began? What if the Z fighters of Universe 7 used the extra day to train with Whis in the room of Spirit and Time/hyperbolic time chamber? And what if all the Z Fighters had their potential unlocked by Elder Kai before the Tournament of Power? It's a lot to go over so let's jump into it!
    After watching the video feel free to leave any and all counter points in the comments below - I love a good discussion.
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  • @CarthusDojo
    @CarthusDojo  Před 4 lety +531

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    • @solentadesse7205
      @solentadesse7205 Před 4 lety +10

      You know when the elder kai said there was a time limit part of me just thought well why not use the hyperbolic time chamber? I assumed that they didn't do it because the elder kai needed to be in a calm environment when he unlocked gohan's potential and the fact that the time chamber makes your body kind of heavy also that the air was thicker making it hard to breath. So if the elder kai can be able to do this in whatever environment I wonder why they didn't suggest it couldn't of been a matter of time even when super buu was on the look out he was taking him the long way that pretty much gave goten and trunks weeks to months to train. By the way love your videos keep it up man.

    • @baseformgoruto6514
      @baseformgoruto6514 Před 4 lety +2

      I always say this but this is the best what if ever they all become ultimate expect buu

    • @rhule008
      @rhule008 Před 4 lety +2

      you're assuming that U11 and the other Universes didnt train for that extra time

    • @CarthusDojo
      @CarthusDojo  Před 4 lety +25

      Other Universes training for a day is not making up the gap of U7 training for over a year

    • @rhule008
      @rhule008 Před 4 lety +3

      the time chamber is not unique to Earth[as u saw Goku and Merus went to one far away from Earth] and I highly doubt they're limited to Universe 7

  • @kenna_9
    @kenna_9 Před 4 lety +6501

    Other universes: how how are you this strong
    Universe 7:we trained all day yesterday

    • @datboy038
      @datboy038 Před 4 lety +536

      Correction: We trained a full year yesterday

    • @kenna_9
      @kenna_9 Před 4 lety +717

      @@datboy038 yes but it's a tfs reference vegeta said when cell how are you this strong " I trained all day yesterday"

    • @PabloMMelo
      @PabloMMelo Před 3 lety +618

      Rest of the universes: oh u think you're CUTE?
      u7: bitch we're adorable

    • @avinash2787
      @avinash2787 Před 3 lety +326

      Jiren : My power is maximum Goku : My power is maximumer

    • @klol-ld8jr
      @klol-ld8jr Před 3 lety +89

      Golden Guardian Pepperoni shaggy:My power is maximumust

  • @nikopteros1659
    @nikopteros1659 Před 4 lety +4054

    I don't know why but the thought of Roshi specifically being trained by whis is so awesome to me

    • @bicmitchum3588
      @bicmitchum3588 Před 4 lety +369

      One of the best fighters with pure technique being trained by the strongest (known) figure in the entire 7th universe.... That's is very exciting

    • @nikopteros1659
      @nikopteros1659 Před 4 lety +56

      @Goofy Laws depends if he trained with Puar previous to training with whis in case he did then not much, if he didnt... Well that would have Been interesting

    • @hotfocaccia6070
      @hotfocaccia6070 Před 4 lety +36

      No you are wrong roshi is training whis

    • @StanTheBland
      @StanTheBland Před 4 lety +21

      @@nikopteros1659 he'd probably try to grab her by the breast and whis would just Dodge him and bonk him on the head with the staff.

    • @Tektabyte
      @Tektabyte Před 4 lety +44

      roshi in the manga was basically dodging every attack by jiren against him like ultra instinct which actually gave a clue to goku on unlocking the omen now imagine roshi who nearly has the dodGing part down training with whis AND THEN HE GOES MUI IN THE TOP

  • @strongmanexpress755
    @strongmanexpress755 Před 3 lety +2184

    What they need to do is:
    Train in the Room of Spirit and Time
    Grab Elder Kai
    Grab a gravity spaceship in a capsule
    Grab Whis
    Ask Korin for divine water

  • @rr.studios
    @rr.studios Před 3 lety +312

    I can't say I'm surprised you didn't include Yamcha.
    God knows the immense power he could unleash on all the other universes unrestrained.
    Good thing you left him out instead of drastically nerfing him.

    • @darkigg
      @darkigg Před rokem +11

      I've watched DBS from ep.1 ot ep.102 (though I skipped a few between ep.20 to ep.50), and I don't remember ever seeing yamcha

    • @rr.studios
      @rr.studios Před rokem +27

      @@darkigg That's just his side power...forgetfulness.

    • @coyolord8031
      @coyolord8031 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@darkigg that's the thing. yamcha can't intervene lest the universe be destroyed.

  • @tako.23
    @tako.23 Před 4 lety +3955

    I love how an extra day basically made Universe 7 unstoppable

    • @lukeedwardpanganiban7891
      @lukeedwardpanganiban7891 Před 3 lety +274

      They had double time dilation so yeah.

    • @Keegstar
      @Keegstar Před 3 lety +507

      They trained all day yesterday.

    • @GothicKnight942
      @GothicKnight942 Před 3 lety +53

      @Ruler Of Dittos yes

    • @mariomaster4568
      @mariomaster4568 Před 3 lety +85

      I mean, if most of the fighters are at super sayin blue levels of power, fighters like Topo and Dyspo are fodder, and Jiren can easily be beaten at this point.

    • @elcidgaming
      @elcidgaming Před 3 lety +48

      Wait why the hell did they need an extra day again?They could have entered the chamber just to dilate evena few hours

  • @viny9666
    @viny9666 Před 4 lety +1578

    "There's no Broly"
    *We've won but at what cost?*

    • @neveahphillips5610
      @neveahphillips5610 Před 3 lety +137

      Bro I wish Broly and Jiren fought, canonically Jiren may be stronger but it still would have been sick to see that.

    • @Thuazabi
      @Thuazabi Před 3 lety +63

      @@neveahphillips5610 yeah, if nothing was on the line and they were just training without needing to eliminate the other person, I could see Broly getting to MUI level by the end.

    • @jibrael5705
      @jibrael5705 Před 3 lety +49

      @@neveahphillips5610 Jiren ATM is definitely stronger than Broly, but of they fight and Jiren pulls the shit he did with Goku, Broly would surpass him mod fight.

    • @nova260q7
      @nova260q7 Před 3 lety +15

      If JIREN doesn’t destroy broly earlier on that means broly will become much stronger since he’s like the old broly getting stronger as the fight goes on

    • @mh.1.
      @mh.1. Před 3 lety +6

      @@jibrael5705 broly already > jiren

  • @ensarb2298
    @ensarb2298 Před 4 lety +561

    This was badass. I’d really wanna see this version of tournament of power, everyone got their time and the og characters were actually strong and they brought back the old dragon ball when they were the strongest...Perfect ending of the series

    • @ssjgotenks2009
      @ssjgotenks2009 Před 3 lety +5

      perfactg ednig no the seire never end moro arc come after

    • @jameswebb8274
      @jameswebb8274 Před 3 lety +20

      @@ssjgotenks2009 Did you have a stroke?
      After reading this I'm slightly concerned you had a stroke.

    • @projekttaku1
      @projekttaku1 Před 2 lety +4

      "perfect ending", no the series never ended. The moro arc comes after.

    • @0001Mxrcel
      @0001Mxrcel Před rokem +2

      @@projekttaku1 with an even more powerful buu, more powerful crew and more powerful Goku and Vegeta..
      well, moro arc? yeah 💀

    • @projekttaku1
      @projekttaku1 Před rokem

      @@0001Mxrcel that just means moro has more energy to feast on.

  • @theonewhoknocks1822
    @theonewhoknocks1822 Před 4 lety +574

    I think the 2 characters that would benefit the most if whis's training in a short period of time would have been gohan and buu. Their poteintal are out of ordinary.

    • @aetherialbeing4223
      @aetherialbeing4223 Před 2 lety +40

      If we wanna take from the manga then Roshi would easily be at the top as well, seeing as he has that weird Ui like ability and has the experience to fight against people far stronger than him in the anime, he would basically be the most dangerous person in the tournament

    • @Xous_
      @Xous_ Před 2 lety +20

      That’s what living for 300 years does for you

    • @iglesianifuhuaw4228
      @iglesianifuhuaw4228 Před rokem +7

      @@aetherialbeing4223 he's older than Jiren and has known all martial arts moves so yeah...

    • @thecreatorofthedark
      @thecreatorofthedark Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@iglesianifuhuaw4228wasn't he trained by kami in the past or just koren?

    • @Kenneth2413
      @Kenneth2413 Před 13 dny +1

      ​@@aetherialbeing4223just imagine how much stronger roshi would potentially get if he were to wish to be part saiyan at some point.

  • @Just_Call_Me_Aurora
    @Just_Call_Me_Aurora Před 4 lety +805

    Carthu: there’s no need for Frieza
    Broly and paragus: *sad noises*

    • @BTG25
      @BTG25 Před 4 lety +112

      Broly: what's wrong.....father?...
      Paragus:.....nothing son....you'll just die a virgin....
      Broly:.....what's Virgin?
      Paragus:..............

    • @davidlowman8494
      @davidlowman8494 Před 4 lety +12

      Why didn't we use uub

    • @XJSPlays02
      @XJSPlays02 Před 4 lety +22

      @@davidlowman8494 Uub Was Like 5 Years Old In Age 780 Plus He Didnt Know How To Control His Power He Wouldn't Be Much Help

    • @davidlowman8494
      @davidlowman8494 Před 4 lety +1

      I mean he also learns very quickly so wouldn't take him long

    • @GotMyDickInYaMouth
      @GotMyDickInYaMouth Před 4 lety +6

      David Lowman he was still fuckin 5

  • @GeckGeckGeckGeckGeck
    @GeckGeckGeckGeckGeck Před 4 lety +412

    Universe 7 to all other universes: Call the Ambulance!
    Universe 7, again: But, not for me.

  • @Drayziex
    @Drayziex Před 4 lety +294

    I imagine if U7 was so overpowered I assume Jiren would actively pick them off before fighting ultimate Goku and Vegeta, plus almost instantly taking buu out first because of his healing ability

    • @logandelaharpe6362
      @logandelaharpe6362 Před 2 lety +25

      An impossibly as huh can tear of parts of himself to give to the other fighters to force himself back

    • @GOAT-ganyu
      @GOAT-ganyu Před 7 dny

      Everyone here is blue level (if we don't count humans and buu who don't get ultimate form), Goku and Vegeta much stronger than original

  • @CyanicCore
    @CyanicCore Před 2 lety +208

    Whether this is feasible or not, putting Buu in Dende's version of the time chamber would've been a really good move.

    • @ComradeYosh.
      @ComradeYosh. Před 16 dny

      Thats practically infinite strength if you didnt age in the time chamber

  • @c0rrupt3d_g0d2
    @c0rrupt3d_g0d2 Před 4 lety +3133

    Universe 7 is too op.
    Plz nerf

  • @matthewjudge5030
    @matthewjudge5030 Před 4 lety +1782

    What if goku went to beerus’ world instead of yardrat

    • @ultimatefusion4622
      @ultimatefusion4622 Před 4 lety +141

      Beerus would be asleep so only whis would be awake to talk to goku and I dont think that whis would actually train goku at his current strength in that time

    • @jacobcastillo6623
      @jacobcastillo6623 Před 4 lety +206

      @@ultimatefusion4622 whis might consider training goku since he managed to defeat frieza. Beerus was really surprised that frieza was defeat

    • @Luffgod5
      @Luffgod5 Před 4 lety +24

      Ah. So it would seem this will be the new what if.

    • @Sponsorbagel
      @Sponsorbagel Před 4 lety +27

      He’d get hakai'd :)

    • @anthonymarta3846
      @anthonymarta3846 Před 4 lety +12

      This is already a what if on gokuT23

  • @eamparbeng
    @eamparbeng Před 3 lety +88

    I just realized something: after training in the hyperbolic time chamber as well as training in the realm of the Gods in whis staff, Piccolo actually unlocked super Namek god super Namek! You did something Toriyama didn't make canon

  • @myusername3689
    @myusername3689 Před rokem +37

    The fit version of Majin Buu destroying opponents would be incredible to watch.

  • @1nc1na
    @1nc1na Před 4 lety +571

    Heres a good one
    What if Frieza actually *"looked out"* for his death saw

    • @primis7524
      @primis7524 Před 4 lety +39

      Wouldn’t help, Frieza was almost entirely out of power

    • @invictus6176
      @invictus6176 Před 4 lety +17

      In the long run nothing changes however it would depend on Friezas stamina if he could keep goku long enough the planet would explode and goku would’ve died thus no instant transmission which would be a problem later on and vegeta wouldn’t have gone out looking for Goku

    • @1nc1na
      @1nc1na Před 4 lety +3

      But would goku lend him energy or end him? Goku originally landed him energy for his own pity.

    • @invictus6176
      @invictus6176 Před 4 lety

      Incinatube well he wasn’t cut in half of Frieza chose to keep fighting even after being “saved” by goku then goku would’ve been forced to put him down or cripple frieza either way if frieza survived he would’ve gone to earth to kill the earthlings and then been for a surprise that Goku and the likes were alive the biggest change I could see is Vegeta potentially being more “ humble” and having supper saiyen because he wanted to find out how goku achieved it and it was from pure anger and sorrow over the loss of Krillen

    • @mikelxanadu
      @mikelxanadu Před 4 lety +5

      He’d still lose. Dude was on his last legs.

  • @dinosaurthebigboy405
    @dinosaurthebigboy405 Před 4 lety +706

    I think elder Kai will unlock all of their potential

    • @NIL_1107
      @NIL_1107 Před 4 lety +41

      Thats... that's what he said....

    • @froki2917
      @froki2917 Před 4 lety +57

      @@NIL_1107 Thats... thats what he predicted before the video got released.

    • @drearytvt
      @drearytvt Před 4 lety +6

      Froki I agree

    • @claramcclendon5002
      @claramcclendon5002 Před 4 lety +2

      My friend got your icon as a phone case

    • @thetruesquad5059
      @thetruesquad5059 Před 4 lety

      that is literally what he said is it meant to be a joke

  • @ethangamer4896
    @ethangamer4896 Před 4 lety +397

    What if Goku was raised by grand priest ?
    Or ( this is gonna sound crazy, but)
    What if Goku was raised by the farmer ?

    • @alexhogan0446
      @alexhogan0446 Před 3 lety +86

      Gold would have mastery over the legendary shotgun

    • @27thlegend70
      @27thlegend70 Před 3 lety +46

      he would able to frickin one shot the grand priest

    • @fafplayz7355
      @fafplayz7355 Před 3 lety +43

      Goku would reach
      Ui sssj golden ape human ki demon form in the first day

    • @jonomatuu
      @jonomatuu Před 3 lety +4

      The farmer has a power level of 5 though haha

    • @27thlegend70
      @27thlegend70 Před 3 lety +47

      @@jonomatuu There were too many zeroes to fit on Raditz's scouter.

  • @mr.morale8662
    @mr.morale8662 Před 3 lety +65

    Actually, it would take 8 days, since Gohan's potential was already unlocked

  • @JamosisKlyde
    @JamosisKlyde Před 4 lety +2981

    They literally could've done this in the actual anime

    • @akcuber5335
      @akcuber5335 Před 4 lety +256

      just make jiren a bit stronger then do this lol

    • @blakesurreali8730
      @blakesurreali8730 Před 4 lety +486

      That would have been more enjoyable then watching ribrianne for an hours worth of the anime.

    • @etheriousnatsudragneel5835
      @etheriousnatsudragneel5835 Před 4 lety +127

      @@blakesurreali8730 around 1h25m if we count all the moment we saw her. ( counting before the start.

    • @blakesurreali8730
      @blakesurreali8730 Před 4 lety +136

      @@etheriousnatsudragneel5835 i could be wrong but didnt she get more screen time then vegeta before getting eliminated?

    • @etheriousnatsudragneel5835
      @etheriousnatsudragneel5835 Před 4 lety +30

      @@blakesurreali8730 if i remember yes

  • @LordYamcha
    @LordYamcha Před 4 lety +530

    Can't wait for Goku to stack Blue on top of Ultimate

    • @takisvidalis4883
      @takisvidalis4883 Před 4 lety +81

      Imagine stacking a 4M multiplier on top of Ultimate. 1B Multiplier?

    • @B1scu1twolf
      @B1scu1twolf Před 4 lety +29

      dont forget the kaioken ( wich i would assume would be 30/40 giving he trained with whis in the time chamber)

    • @monicadibia4874
      @monicadibia4874 Před 4 lety +11

      The power would go against the rules of the gods

    • @diobrando7774
      @diobrando7774 Před 4 lety +24

      @@B1scu1twolf he would stand for like 2 seconds and run out of stamina lol

    • @FEDERALBEREAUOFIMCOMPENTRNCE
      @FEDERALBEREAUOFIMCOMPENTRNCE Před 4 lety +8

      @@diobrando7774 nah i think he just needs to adapt to it

  • @jaymeslanske1234
    @jaymeslanske1234 Před 3 lety +12

    3:50 that whis voice is just the best ever

  • @devilfromhell8546
    @devilfromhell8546 Před 3 lety +15

    i literally loved that you gave vegeta his rematch against hit

  • @Ultradragon16
    @Ultradragon16 Před 4 lety +575

    "People like the sniper and Frost are jokes now"
    Man as if my boy Frost wasn't disrespected enough in this series

    • @mezasepkmn
      @mezasepkmn Před 4 lety +8

      Ultradragon16 honestly 😭

    • @primis7524
      @primis7524 Před 4 lety +66

      Ultradragon16 He seemed like a dollar store frieza, honestly. Didn’t really like him

    • @blazinggrape558
      @blazinggrape558 Před 4 lety +5

      He’s really “your boy” bruh

    • @bussinnutsfuckinbutts5368
      @bussinnutsfuckinbutts5368 Před 4 lety +54

      @@primis7524 right? They should've kept him as a good guy, that way he wasn't just the great value version, and I feel his interactions later on with frieza would've been more interesting too

    • @spider_fan_boi
      @spider_fan_boi Před 4 lety +21

      I really would've liked a proper good Frieza

  • @orlandomorales5423
    @orlandomorales5423 Před 4 lety +1252

    I don’t see everyone getting a 400x boost from elder Kai. They’d still get a boost but not as drastic. The only reason Gohan got such a boost was because he’s always had a lot of hidden potential even among sayians.

    • @darrellsimon4462
      @darrellsimon4462 Před 4 lety +177

      Yes this is a great point...the humans would probably get the smallest boost..then piccolo then probably the sayians

    • @siroreo
      @siroreo Před 4 lety +99

      Darrell Simon I think you could argue the humans would get the bigger boost, the Sayians have already trained and broken so many of their limits (or in Gohan’s case had their potential unlocked). Piccolo is also probably pretty close to full potential but it is hard to say

    • @illuminati3561
      @illuminati3561 Před 4 lety +67

      They'd all be drastically stronger, though, and Piccolo isn't nowhere near his full potential

    • @henryg.hernandezramirez2801
      @henryg.hernandezramirez2801 Před 4 lety +58

      @@illuminati3561 keep in mind Vegeta hasnt even had a power awakening once so he still has hella strength locked up.

    • @rythmicchain5950
      @rythmicchain5950 Před 4 lety +7

      Henry G. Hernandez Ramirez he did have power awakenings tho super saiyan 2 versus beerus

  • @prajwaldogra1030
    @prajwaldogra1030 Před 3 lety +19

    When he said they would be bringing in another person is room of spirit and time I really thought it would be yamcha but was elder kai poor yamcha

  • @thewittywhygaming6487
    @thewittywhygaming6487 Před 3 lety +15

    Toriyama: "Nooooo! Goku must be strongest by wide margin!"
    Fandom: "Hippity Hoppity, we're rewriting your property!"

  • @theslashpotato2321
    @theslashpotato2321 Před 4 lety +389

    11:03 Translation: "You're not dealing with the average saiyan warrior anymore!"

    • @solaimonpopal2827
      @solaimonpopal2827 Před 3 lety +22

      I feel like we’ve been here before have we been here before

    • @undr3s1
      @undr3s1 Před 3 lety +3

      @@solaimonpopal2827 dunno

    • @speedstick8981
      @speedstick8981 Před 3 lety +20

      Frieza somewhere in hell: I feel a great disturbance in the ki.

    • @jaydenbaye442
      @jaydenbaye442 Před rokem +2

      @@solaimonpopal2827 oh my god, we have been here before

  • @ImKlutzy
    @ImKlutzy Před 4 lety +770

    Buu being in the tournament would be really op. He could make 9 mini versions of himself to stick with the others for healing and back up

    • @greedybandit9418
      @greedybandit9418 Před 2 lety +44

      There's a story about that. What if Buu turned Good.
      That was amazing

    • @Ms.FortuneTeller
      @Ms.FortuneTeller Před 2 lety +68

      Buu also wouldn't be eliminated. He could leave A LOT of little pieces of himself on the arena.

    • @ComputingCode
      @ComputingCode Před 2 lety +36

      HE would basically absorb opponents until nothing can stand in front of him. When everyone is defeated he just spits them out 1 by one and eliminates them.

    • @Ms.FortuneTeller
      @Ms.FortuneTeller Před 2 lety +6

      @@ComputingCode That didn't work on Vegetto. It wouldn't work on everyone.

    • @poinkek
      @poinkek Před 2 lety +38

      @@Ms.FortuneTeller thats because vegito already knows about it and made a ki barriar so most fighters outside of universe 11 can be obsorbed

  • @anthonyhulk06
    @anthonyhulk06 Před 4 lety +26

    I think broly would still be found because the frieza force was still there looking for troops out of desperation

    • @seansolo3583
      @seansolo3583 Před 3 lety +4

      But he’d never be what he was in the movie, because only frieza knew how to make him reach super saiyan

  • @SayainHokage
    @SayainHokage Před 3 lety +13

    Dude this is legitamately an awesome plan. I truly think that they could’ve done something like this I would love to see the Z Fighterz come back in action this would’ve excited so many fans sigh TOO GOOD truly wish this is how it went.

    • @ssjgotenks2009
      @ssjgotenks2009 Před 3 lety

      this wood never happen goku wont qwuit in this tourmton h hole fight storng ass foe not quit zneo wood be psie dman and beerus wood erse goku for qutiing

    • @mj09rev
      @mj09rev Před rokem

      @@ssjgotenks2009 what?

  • @amiraanwer4442
    @amiraanwer4442 Před 4 lety +707

    LIKE IF HE SHOULD DO 'What If Master Roshi got Arrested For...(sighs)...Reasons.'

    • @rickywitdabliky5338
      @rickywitdabliky5338 Před 4 lety +21

      Ah I see there are men of knowledge here

    • @greatslayer2784
      @greatslayer2784 Před 4 lety +6

      @@xeta180 not the great the greatest coochie war

    • @randomstuff5372
      @randomstuff5372 Před 4 lety +11

      he wouldn’t because the police (except krillin) can’t get him because of his power

    • @-storm-4318
      @-storm-4318 Před 4 lety +6

      Mr. Satan would break him out

    • @shadabamin80
      @shadabamin80 Před 4 lety +8

      Had the bible in one hand... machine gun in the other..

  • @Kamikaze_4
    @Kamikaze_4 Před 4 lety +288

    You forgot one major element in all of this: plot armor.
    If Universe 7 could do this, then at least a couple other universes would be able to do something similar.

  • @AnonyBoiii
    @AnonyBoiii Před 2 lety +8

    Alternate title: How U7 could’ve swept the TOP

  • @DarthKamui
    @DarthKamui Před rokem +28

    I always thought Goku’s power in his Ultra Instinct forms was his dormant potential that he temporarily awakened by breaking through his self-limiting shells.

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog Před 4 lety +410

    I guess if Krillin trained in the Hyperbolic time Chamber, he'd last in the Tournament a lot longer.

    • @markmagician2471
      @markmagician2471 Před 4 lety +7

      Not really he still would be knocked out 1st

    • @eon9081
      @eon9081 Před 4 lety +37

      Krillin is the strongest character in dbz or dbs because he was able to date and eventually marry android 18

    • @xeta180
      @xeta180 Před 4 lety +12

      @@eon9081 that made no sense

    • @cosmicluna5783
      @cosmicluna5783 Před 4 lety +5

      Goku Black Ssj 4 He was joking since Krillin got Android 18.

    • @TheJadeFist
      @TheJadeFist Před 4 lety +7

      Or maybe at least not had wasted our time with him learning a better solar flare that he uses on the blind guy...

  • @Seetiyan
    @Seetiyan Před 4 lety +314

    Cool scenario that makes alot of sense. Just one thing to correct - the genkidama would only be a little stronger than it was canonically. They're in a void, not on a planet or even in a real universe where Goku could draw power from life all over. That's what the genkidama is most dependent on.

    • @lajo1997
      @lajo1997 Před 4 lety +52

      yes but the ones who gave goku energy would have all done the training and therefore would make the genkidama a lot stronger than it was in the original

    • @ppnexus2000
      @ppnexus2000 Před 3 lety +4

      @@lajo1997 they wouldn't give more energy just because they have it, it would be dumb

    • @dhrubi
      @dhrubi Před 3 lety +16

      @@ppnexus2000 well it'd be like if they gave 1% of their power then if they were way stronger then that 1% would also increase

    • @ppnexus2000
      @ppnexus2000 Před 3 lety +6

      @@dhrubi no. They would wait the same amount of time, therefore the bomb wouldn't be bigger. Gohan gave energy in the buu saga, yet that bomb couldn't defeat kid buu as easily as he could've

    • @ppnexus2000
      @ppnexus2000 Před 3 lety +1

      @@dhrubi and they wouldn't just give away all their energy when they gotta fight too

  • @bruh6664
    @bruh6664 Před 3 lety +6

    Other universes: hacks what is a room of spirit and time
    Beer is: no we have good gaming chairs

  • @gammafrost
    @gammafrost Před 2 lety +12

    Damn I really like this scenario. Imagine if they had actually gone this route.

  • @Pupsi
    @Pupsi Před 4 lety +318

    Nice.

  • @King3Hydra
    @King3Hydra Před 4 lety +363

    Goku and Vagetas base “should” already be stronger than everyone else on the team. Since he handles freezas 4th form in his base in resurrection F, After freeza slaps everyone-else including Gohan and Piccolo in his 1st form. How they slate stronger than blue idk.

    • @lapplandkun9273
      @lapplandkun9273 Před 4 lety +38

      because the writers shit powerscaling for Super.

    • @yungtizzy
      @yungtizzy Před 4 lety +13

      Goofy Laws and how tf do you make 10000 mistakes in one comment? wow that really hurt to read

    • @Hat5o
      @Hat5o Před 4 lety +4

      Goofy Laws, reading your comment made me laugh so much I fell off of my bed. 😂

    • @Hat5o
      @Hat5o Před 4 lety +2

      Laugh in a good way I mean

    • @RanMaru144
      @RanMaru144 Před 3 lety +1

      @Goofy Laws because beerus was capping

  • @jenmordecai8817
    @jenmordecai8817 Před 2 lety +11

    i think that it would be cool to see this happen where they get stronger using the hyper bolic time chamber and whis's staff to get way stronger and make them all gods

  • @adviksharma2072
    @adviksharma2072 Před 3 lety +4

    I love your content carthu. Keep up the good work. I feel you make the most realistic and interesting what ifs.

  • @StormyDMG
    @StormyDMG Před 4 lety +95

    "Without Frieza, there's no Broly"
    ....Damn...!

    • @khalildz1552
      @khalildz1552 Před 4 lety +1

      they will find a way to get broly

    • @justaguywithagoodphoto4801
      @justaguywithagoodphoto4801 Před 3 lety

      total war khalil dz no, no they won’t. Unless moro arrives they won’t

    • @dw661
      @dw661 Před 3 lety

      @@justaguywithagoodphoto4801 even then there would be no reason to go to vampa

  • @berry_hikari
    @berry_hikari Před 4 lety +33

    “All of the universes erased in the tournament” Nice little detail Carthu.

  • @user-db7qo9sv7t
    @user-db7qo9sv7t Před 2 lety +5

    We definitely need part two of this.

  • @trevorcunning6248
    @trevorcunning6248 Před 2 lety +3

    This is definitely one of my favorite what if episodes!!!!

  • @jayceallen6530
    @jayceallen6530 Před 4 lety +63

    Man I’m glad krillin is this strong, everyone jokes on my guy

    • @Thuazabi
      @Thuazabi Před 3 lety +10

      Meh. He got the most attractive GFs/wife, so I'd say he still comes out on top.

    • @ajsherlock1681
      @ajsherlock1681 Před 3 lety

      Yea its yamacha

    • @sonickingjames9228
      @sonickingjames9228 Před 2 lety

      They disrespected krillin in T.O.P he was first to be eliminated

  • @max_garcia
    @max_garcia Před 4 lety +252

    Androids is a hard one, they do have human bodies but the potential in dragon ball is left kinda unclear, is it physical potential or ki potential, cause if it is physical then there is no problem with androids getting potential unlocked but if the form is ki based (like almost everything there) then the androids cant get it due to their lack of ki

    • @cozy7765
      @cozy7765 Před 4 lety +10

      o0ericj0o Um yes, but actually no.

    • @fireman4804
      @fireman4804 Před 4 lety +22

      It was stated that androids had infinite ki and stamina so ki wouldnt be a problem.

    • @fireman4804
      @fireman4804 Před 4 lety +4

      *have

    • @maxderp3034
      @maxderp3034 Před 4 lety +1

      fire man WRONG

    • @max_garcia
      @max_garcia Před 4 lety +4

      fire man actually, it is stated by 17 that he didn’t have ki when they fought aniraza since goku said “can he sense the ki of all of us at the same time and react instantly?” Then 17 said “no, it is not that since I don’t have energy which can be sensed” or something along those lines meaning he didn’t have ki and his source of energy was a machine inside him and he and 18 were modified the same way

  • @roninphan3161
    @roninphan3161 Před 4 lety +4

    5:35 It's the same picture but it feels so much more badass when you know they are overpowered to all hell

  • @TheYousif
    @TheYousif Před 3 lety +12

    So your telling me if the time before the tournament was extended a day the tournament wold last 5 minutes?

  • @KitsuneGB-hc9zb
    @KitsuneGB-hc9zb Před 4 lety +64

    *sees Universe 7 win w/ no difficulty* And this is why this is a “what-if” and not what happened

  • @waterisok4853
    @waterisok4853 Před 4 lety +148

    I like this version because it makes everybody powerful

    • @CJ-D-GOAT
      @CJ-D-GOAT Před 4 lety +3

      ShadyRASENGAN Same my Anime loving brother.

  • @RainSpinjitzuStudio
    @RainSpinjitzuStudio Před 3 lety +2

    Yamcha: am I a joke to you
    Carthu: yes

  • @derpypotato677
    @derpypotato677 Před rokem +3

    Alternative title: Universe Seven exploits dimensional desync to bully ToP competitors.

  • @314EJR
    @314EJR Před 4 lety +37

    "Back to the way they were?" I wonder if that means that the Namekians de-fuse.......

  • @zoku3355
    @zoku3355 Před 4 lety +44

    Omg this would be amazing then goku would get potential unleashed like gohan

  • @Leicester_Ansulrua
    @Leicester_Ansulrua Před 3 lety +15

    The ultimate form is based on potential so excluding the hybrids/androids (bc they are half machine) they should only get a X 20-200 boost, and not a 400+X boost.

  • @ogbrownnerd
    @ogbrownnerd Před 2 lety +2

    basically “if batman had prep time” LMAO love it!!

  • @steveramirez9659
    @steveramirez9659 Před 4 lety +122

    That like button

  • @Kepal
    @Kepal Před 2 lety +4

    i have a feeling that carthu sees training as becoming super duper OP

  • @jagunjr0118
    @jagunjr0118 Před 3 lety +4

    Jiren Toppo and Dyspo: Our Power is Unrivaled!
    Goku Vegeta and Gohan: Not when we're here

  • @twosad
    @twosad Před 4 lety +323

    Isnt this possible with only 48 hours? Wouldnt they get about a year still?

    • @wowdogememe1541
      @wowdogememe1541 Před 4 lety +60

      Recruitment took a while

    • @Tan-lb6sm
      @Tan-lb6sm Před 3 lety +44

      Yeah but he managed to get Frieza in like a few hours, so they could’ve just. Instant transmission, 4 minutes, then someone is already really powerful.

    • @matthewastick227
      @matthewastick227 Před 3 lety +6

      It said ABOUT 40 hours

    • @unknownwarrior1169
      @unknownwarrior1169 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Tan-lb6sm ye or just tel beerus to hakai king Gemma if he doesn't allow

    • @A_Ali173
      @A_Ali173 Před 3 lety

      @@unknownwarrior1169 king Gemma lol 😂. Ik it’s a typo but still

  • @steveelpro
    @steveelpro Před 4 lety +149

    2:26 Potential Unleashed doesn't have a multiplier, its about the potential of the fighter, they could be able tu surpass even SSJ 3 as well as not even surpass SSJ 1 but only in terms of raw power, not in multiplication of power

    • @rignatetris4435
      @rignatetris4435 Před 4 lety +14

      that is true, up until they use it. The potential unleashed just means they have more to work with, but it sits there until they use it. If a person of 2500bp at 100% got the rest of their potential unleashed so that it triples their maximum output to 7500, they would still be at 2500 until they used their full power. So it is a kind of multiplier in the term that their maximum output is increased.

    • @axian8102
      @axian8102 Před 4 lety +6

      @Evan Morel Ok so, I feel like people have forgotten that the thing with Gohan was he was born with not only prodigal talent but also an immense natural energy reserve that he could not access.
      Guru helped with some of it, and Elder Kai unlocked all of it so if Goku were to get his potential unlocked (which could've already been done by the ultra divine water) then it would either be Frieza saga Z level or SSJ2 Buu Level.
      I'm personally of the opinion that were an Ultimate Vegeta to have happened he would have been Majin Vegeta lvl in Base.

    • @linkfan6555
      @linkfan6555 Před 4 lety +1

      Humans have a huge amount of potential, when Guru gave krillin an unlock it increased his power by around 75 times and elder kai’s ritual is better so I’d say that the humans who all have amazing potential compared to other humans would at least get an ss2 level boost.

    • @linkfan6555
      @linkfan6555 Před 4 lety +1

      Also Goku has trash potential, his power is all from good teachers, training and saiyan haxs.

    • @coolbeans3752
      @coolbeans3752 Před 4 lety

      @Evan Morel
      HOLY Shit . . . Your not wrong

  • @DatShadyGuy
    @DatShadyGuy Před 2 lety +7

    See, I'm confused why this wasn't done in the original timeline (besides the writers not doing it).
    With 40 hours before the tournament, there's enough time to send in the team to get their potential unlocked AND wake up Buu. Even at 40 hours before the tournament, the time to get them unlocked is 7 or 8 days in the Time Chamber (not 9. Gohan already had his potential unlocked. He just needed to tap back into it, and that shouldn't take more than a day or 2 once someone else unlocks their potential, probably Piccolo). Given it's 2 months for Buu to wake up, that's only 4 hours back on Earth for the unlocking and Buu waking up. Give it another 2 months training to adjust, and that's 8 hours total that have passed.
    In this scenario, Universe 7 still wins within the parameters in this video, albeit with more difficulty (I see Master Roshi and Tien being eliminated, though they take more fighters out before they do).

  • @zuhaibhussain5751
    @zuhaibhussain5751 Před 3 lety +2

    This would be a shot number of episodes, but really cool to watch them dominate

  • @ltk9668
    @ltk9668 Před 4 lety +51

    This going to be the best

  • @vessel__
    @vessel__ Před 4 lety +11

    Love how the humans team up to take out a universe

  • @tomyniepo9058
    @tomyniepo9058 Před 3 lety +6

    Hmm just finished watching, and also finished reading last available chapter of DBS, the oracle just said that the strongest being in all universe 7 is going to be born.

  • @bennysontennyson
    @bennysontennyson Před 2 lety +1

    i love how when someone can handle it Goku just yeets himself out of the ring like in the cell games lol

  • @edsbread1422
    @edsbread1422 Před 4 lety +20

    I’d like to see this scenario based on the manga as well. Particularly the absurdity of a super strong false ui roshi

  • @berbernsbertrand1336
    @berbernsbertrand1336 Před 4 lety +76

    I expect the T.O.P won't be very hard

  • @Ayden_Ace
    @Ayden_Ace Před 4 lety +1

    Love how at the start of vid u can here him click to start recording
    F

  • @thecrimsonwrath1337
    @thecrimsonwrath1337 Před 2 lety +1

    I don’t know why I imagine with only hit remaining the other universe 7 members are just relaxing and watching vegeta and hit fight

  • @coolbeans3752
    @coolbeans3752 Před 4 lety +79

    Piccolo and Tien would get thier moment of Glory.
    Edit: Omg we get Skinny Buu

  • @gkanishl
    @gkanishl Před 4 lety +155

    Alternative title: if universe 7 wasnt low balled.

    • @rdoogan1259
      @rdoogan1259 Před 3 lety +11

      Tien would have soloed like everyone outside of universe 11 and 6 if they weren’t low balled.

    • @space-eye7760
      @space-eye7760 Před 3 lety

      @@rdoogan1259 r/woosh

    • @rdoogan1259
      @rdoogan1259 Před 3 lety +6

      @@space-eye7760 Do you not know what he, I or you said? Or are you just confused in general?

    • @0001Mxrcel
      @0001Mxrcel Před 3 lety

      @@space-eye7760 failed!

    • @user-bk7ys5cv6b
      @user-bk7ys5cv6b Před 3 lety

      @@rdoogan1259 r/whoosh

  • @thelgiver5844
    @thelgiver5844 Před 3 lety +2

    That's how Elder Kai and Master Roshi became best friends.

  • @joemamadeeznuts8041
    @joemamadeeznuts8041 Před rokem

    What I like most about your what ifs is that you can listen to it without seeing the video

  • @xevint8215
    @xevint8215 Před 4 lety +114

    This is better than the actual Tournament of Power. Everyone gets their spotlights.

    • @Megaman-2407
      @Megaman-2407 Před 2 lety +20

      but there literally no stake or tension now because even one or two of universe 7 can solo entire universe jiren if goku cant go ultra then i think all UV7 can fight him even limit breaker

    • @thunder2275
      @thunder2275 Před 2 lety +7

      Everyone from U7 gets the spotlight but every other universe doesn’t

    • @Kwaab
      @Kwaab Před rokem

      na

    • @brickleskeetle77
      @brickleskeetle77 Před rokem

      No.

    • @bbrandumbb
      @bbrandumbb Před 8 měsíci

      @@Megaman-2407
      Easy solution: make Jiren stronger

  • @Mignolious
    @Mignolious Před 4 lety +3

    gotta say i love that you used the fighterz artwork, small but quality change!

  • @robiregalado3293
    @robiregalado3293 Před 3 lety +1

    I gotta say some of your videos is more exciting than the original version

  • @spiderboy-fm3cv
    @spiderboy-fm3cv Před 3 lety +4

    Id honestly watch half a season of this then down playing everyone

  • @cherrybomb4894
    @cherrybomb4894 Před 4 lety +5

    I need to see a parody T.O.P with this theory. I’d love to see Roshi just bodying everyone.

  • @loneli_
    @loneli_ Před 4 lety +37

    What if For *dummies*
    Room of Spirit of Time+Whis Staff=4-5 Years worth of training in a day.
    Training; (hypothetically and for easy scaling) Potential Unleashed=300× Mutiplier on top of base (stacked) ×2 (Due to God ki Training)
    This idea is genius. I was planning on scripting an idea like this myself about Whis training them inside the room of spirit in time. But this is just genius. Great job Carthu, and I hope this helps.

    • @natelewis2622
      @natelewis2622 Před 4 lety +3

      Way more than 2 years man. Remember they have 365 days in the original Room. With Whis' staff then 1 day inside it would be a year. Well when they come out of the staff there is still 364 days left inside the Room of Spirit and Time. So technically they could train for 365 years inside Whis' staff before the 1 year is up in the RoSaT. So this mind boggling potential would yield ridiculous training time for the team if they had the life span potential to be able to use all the time available they would have. Instead however each member could go inside the staff one at a time to receive one on one training from Whis to ensure the best potential training results while the rest of the team does their own training collectively while awaiting their turn with Whis inside the staff. As awesome and amazing as this training would be, the ToP would be ridiculously easy for U7 team that it wouldn't even be worth a story arc for the show, instead only worthy of some in episode dialogue between a couple characters as they train during a different arc worth being given the time to tell.

    • @loneli_
      @loneli_ Před 4 lety

      @@natelewis2622 oh yeah so four?

    • @gokai961
      @gokai961 Před 4 lety +2

      I thought they could just throw a capsule in the room and they could train for 300+x training gravity

  • @grahamhang178
    @grahamhang178 Před 3 lety +5

    It was cool.
    However, when Vegita goes up against Hit, Hit can learn from his fight.

  • @AnonyBoiii
    @AnonyBoiii Před 11 měsíci +1

    Would love to see a remake of this what if with the new forms and techniques in mind, along with taking it to the greatest extreme possible.

  • @chaoscontrol01
    @chaoscontrol01 Před 4 lety +37

    One thing tho: why would everybody have an "Ultimate Form"

    • @loneli_
      @loneli_ Před 4 lety +20

      Potential Unleashed is the bringing out of one's natural power and release without any stamina or ki drains, it's an independent transformation pool. So God ki is a seperate power from potential unleashed, Carthu just happened to combine the idea that, God Ki can stack on top of God ki which does make sense.

  • @logars1234
    @logars1234 Před 4 lety +16

    This is going to be intresting

  • @headshotfaze9371
    @headshotfaze9371 Před 2 lety +1

    It's op how universe 7 as access to be able to train for a year in a day. And stack that and give everyone god ki and awaken everyone's potential.

  • @harvester1759
    @harvester1759 Před 2 lety +1

    i love your vidoes. you are very cool

  • @anwarazarkan1098
    @anwarazarkan1098 Před 4 lety +13

    even moreeee hypeeee!! love you’re vids 🙂

  • @n.a.t.gplays7757
    @n.a.t.gplays7757 Před 4 lety +6

    Gimme more of this its entertaining and addicting

  • @itsneku05
    @itsneku05 Před 3 lety +11

    since the Moro arc is finished now, i would like to see that series for the moro arc because i think moro will still put up a fight and be even stronger in this time of events because he will absorb stronger powers of the Z fighters, hope you see that and maybe make a Part 2 for this :)

    • @titanictnt7476
      @titanictnt7476 Před 2 lety +1

      And Granolah wouldn’t happen because Frieza is dead.

    • @chuviis3508
      @chuviis3508 Před 2 lety

      ​@@titanictnt7476 and the events of super hero would have been a joke

  • @Chessler-qs4ni
    @Chessler-qs4ni Před 2 lety +2

    1:30 *Kami’s Lookout*
    Dende: *Noise of sadness*

    • @selpa_purp
      @selpa_purp Před 2 lety

      No you forgot super Kami dende

  • @davidtrowbridge3709
    @davidtrowbridge3709 Před 4 lety +6

    your whis impression is really good.

  • @ElizabethRamirez-ol3wl
    @ElizabethRamirez-ol3wl Před 4 lety +12

    Hasn't even started and i know its gonna be epic

  • @whiteranncamprannofkutch2912

    You narrate the story so good

  • @breadcrumb3354
    @breadcrumb3354 Před 2 lety +1

    This wouldve been amazing to see