WHAT IF Goku Black Turned GOOD? Ultra Instinct Goku Black VS Jiren - Dragon Ball Super
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The Goku Black arc was one of the most loved arcs in Dragon Ball Super and Goku Black is considered by many to be one of the best - if not THE best villains in the entirety of Dragon Ball. So what if he became good? Let's discuss that now.
After watching the video feel free to leave any and all counter points in the comments below - I love a good discussion.
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"Goku black see's Goku use ultra instinct"
Goku black: hey i can do that.
"Goku see's Goku black use ultra instinct better"
Goku: hey i can do that too.
Basically what happens.
Vegeta: "WHYYYY?! "
It would be an infinite loop of getting even stronger
Sees new form:
*I CAN DO THAT TOO*
Vegeta: I CAN’T DO THAT TOO
Honestly, I don’t think his Saiyan Instincts would be enough.
Maybe Gowasu’s speech about mortals and Vegeta’s speech about Saiyans also turned some screws.
True, you can see this with Ginyu {he did not turn good, due the sayian DNA}
dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Body_Change
Goku only turned good due him hitting his head as a newborn.
Saiyans are instinctively attracted to fighting, no matter what.
the only way he could turn good is that his alternative timeline counterpart sees him as a obstruction to the NO mortal plan, since the body that zamasu is using is from a mortal.
you can see this by the failed reformation, the god part reforms correctly, but the human part does not
dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Fused_Zamasu
Also Beerus could have Hakaied Black or have gotten mad with the time travel
Well technically Goku's head had already been hit so his body was like that @@darknessblades
yeah
@@darknessblades What about Vegeta?
Goku black and goku: train together
Vegeta: dammit, he’s cheating on me with himself
Hahaha 😂😂😂
Such a narcissist lol
*XD*
Lol
Lmao
Goku and Goku Black’s rivalry in a nutshell:
If you can do it I can do it!
Well I can do it better!
But I can get the next form!
I can master it!
I can use it at will!
@@Phantom-xs8dv loool
@@Phantom-xs8dv blackarot
true
@@ReplyReaper8617 Black Goku: *Nigga Mode Activated*
you mean " anything you can do i can do better, i can do anything better than you "
Goku: Goes Ultra instinct
Goku Black: Goes Ultra instinct
Vegeta: Well that's fair.
Vegeta: aight imma head out
Goku black and goku to jiren: IMMA BOUT TO END THIS MANS WHOLE CAREER
@@daniellee2677 CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT
@@Keegstar nah it should be
Jiren: aight ima head out now
*jumps off ToP stadium*
@@thanosisepic7146 Lmaoo 😂😂😂
Goku: Now I have achieve Ultra instinct to beat you jiren
Black: If can you do it so can I. Now I have UI
Vegeta:Kakarot... I leave the rest to you
I mean basically:/
You mean kakarots
vinny gamer 2009 there are still 2 Kakarotto
vinny gamer 2009 can you use grammar
To explain it better
"WHAT IF Goku Black Turned GOOD?"
*Goku White*
EDIT: I just deleted the joke explanation, I'll just see the dudes who don't get the joke calling me racist
Dabi LOL
Now Goku White's Racist xD
@@timepatroleren2895 somehow it does sound more racist
Oh no they WHITE WASHED HIM!!!
"Hold your fire, this man is White."
Jiren: *breathes in breathes out*
Jiren: *opens eyes*
Jiren eyes: *are silver*
gg we dead boys
Rest in piece
@@lordshaggy3221 no you should be able to handle that with 2 percent
Goku and Goku black:chuckles I'm in danger
Vegeta: *Breathes in breathes out*
Vegeta: *closes eye*
Also Vegeta: *eyes turn Dark blue* Oh Come On!!!
Personally, I see a "redeemed" Goku Black becoming the new god of destruction for the future timeline, maybe even giving Zeno the idea for an alternate version of the tournament of power where the G.o.D's participate
He’s better suited as a God of Creation. I mean he was originally now he can be an even stronger one
Eros Matthew Montallana No the grand priest is just the grand priest. The supreme kais serve as creator gods as they’re the opposite of their counterparts who are destroyer gods
While I understand why Black might want to return to being a Supreme Kai, I kinda see him embracing his new saiyan body and betraying Zamasu as a rejection of that path.
Plus, he'd probably have a lot of fun as a destroyer god. If Whis is still around, he'd also probably appreciate a G.o.D that takes the job seriously and wants to get stronger.
Maybe a universe 6 vs 7 tournament could kick off once Champa learns someone took his brother's old job. Although there are very few remaining powerful fighters in the future timeline. Maybe he'd try to release Buu? If Tarble is canon he might try to recruit Abo and Cado, and Frog Ginyu might still be hopping around
Patrick McDonnell heh, hopping.
lol the kais cant grenat shit way do think odl ki shti has paltn of goku desoting has plant and if the crete thigns way hell did kai nto tlel future turnks ic an fix your world ocne black si desoty he said ntonig about it and way don't zmashu plan to fix trunsk world once ever yone died they can tod that fi the carte the wodo mad eosme who sotp majin buu but they cant so tha big fait lie
Jiren exists
Goku black I'm gonna end this man's whole career
@Naval on controller ;-;
Naval on controller didn’t in the story, apparently jiren lost to black
Black: _defeats jiren_
Goku, who got his spotlight stolen by himself:
*anger*
ThisPerson tbh it’s actually impossible to kill jiren how tf did he do that ._.
Goku black: gets UI omen
Goku: there is another
rick
wheeeeeeeeeeze
Vegeta after realizing 2 kakarots have surpassed him: my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
@@motivationman4866 he will,prob have that thought of retirement again in the cell saga
The duo ui would be way too busted
Unfortunately you forgot one thing:
"Goku Black" and "good" don't fit together in the same sentence.
I think the "Black" in his name identifies his clothing. He's a black-clothed Goku or "Goku Black".
Then goku white I guess
@@EzFM_Films would that make goku goku orange?
Keegstar na hes goku bright
“Goku black was killed by the good guys”
In my head Goku and Goku Black mixed there attacks like Goku and Vegeta.........the Kamehameha of mixed power, the Mixed Kamehameha
Black kamehameha with normal(light) kamehameha name of it Balance kamehameha or Yin Yang kamehameha
Light and dark kamehameha
Why'd I think of Goku Black being Black and White and Black being mixed(like the ethnicity)😂😂😂
@@assasincread855 YinYang Kamehameha sounds Badass
Rosé Blue Kamehameha
What If : Bardock survive destruction Planeta Vegeta
Would love that shit
Yeah! Give my boy Bardock some time in the spotlight
Yh that would be so cool
I don't disagree, but I really don't think it would be able to happen since the death ball hit him before it even touched the planet. If this were to happen, one of two things would have to happen, either the destruction never occurs, or Bardock doesn't return to Planet Vegeta when Frieza tells them to. Either would contradict the what if since it says what if he survives the destruction.
@@dabi.5971 Or maybe Bardock achieved super saiyan?
Whis: ANOTHER?!?!?!?!?!
JIREN: OH COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!
*After goku's spirit bomb*
Everyone: H-He's dead...
Goku Black: *Starts glowing*
Goku: nice try but i have an undo reverse card up my sleeve
@@yeetmcyeetalot5979 Ah yes , *undo reverse*
@@boringname8493 hes a man of culture
@@davianwesson7978 😭😭😭😂😂😂
Goku Black:wait wait wait no no no
They wouldn’t be dealing with the average Pink haired Saiyan anymore😂😂like if get the abridged reference
Namek saga Vegeta to Frieza (Talking about Goku) , and you edited it a bit.
Dragon slayer yep
You shoulda just left it with the saying... pointing it out to people who don’t know ruins it for the ones that do 😪😪
THE NAMES RECOOME AND IT RHYMES WITH DOOM!!!
@@LoneRope4 AND YOUUUUR GONNA BE HURTING ALL TOO SOON!!!!
I think it would have been cooler to see black achieve Kaioken, and go further then Goku could either because he was a god or because SSJ Rosé works differently
Eh that's a big pass. He can't even use the body right.
Rose is just super saiyan blue...but since Zamasu had his own god ki...and it wasn’t given to him...it allowed him to achieve a form equal to blue..pretty much rose is blue but changed colors
Mad Gamer rose is just super saiyan
@@alephnull423 Rose is not just Super Saiyan. It's the true godly version of Blue - just what happens when someone with Natural God-Ki uses the form, as opposed to having gained God-Ki from a ritual. It's naturally stronger as we see from Black decimating so much, and it seems to have less strain on him overall too.
Black uses normal Super Saiyan forms in the manga extensively, but he only does so against Goku and Vegeta when they first appear because his base form is already too strong for Trunks. There's nothing that is ever stated that implies Super Saiyan Rose as being Goku Black's version of normal SSJ; it's 100% his version of Blue.
King Kai would never train him
Goku: would never forgive Goku black for killing his family
Goku black: ok I’m good now
Goku: ok i forgive you
Goku is dumb
Goku is very stupid
I mean they can just revive them with the dragon balls on Namek.
Just Like Freeza
@@mehdiouabas9587 freeza is always evil and he never regret being evil
Really enjoyed this story! Would love to see Goku Black back in DBS. People don’t realise how scary Blacks potential is, he is pretty much the better version of Goku himself and is a fucking genius!
My Man You Should Watch Super Dragon Ball Heroes. Its Not Canon But Its Confirmed That Its After Every Single Arc Of DBS Till The Granolah Arc. This Introduces An Alternate Version Of Black Who Was Able To Escape From The Timeline Basically Leaving Zamasu For Dead And Getting A New Crimson Mask And He Is Now Called Crimson And My Bro Was Able To Awaken SSJ Rosé 2, 3 AND Full Powered Mask Broken 3. In This State He Was Literally Over Powering Ultra Instinct Sign( UI Omen Goku ) AFTER GRANOLAH ARC WITH NO DIFFICULTY! My man this statement is so true..
a genius goku *slowly removes sunglasses* dear god
I don't think Saiyan's instincts alone would make Goku Black turn good. They would probably be enough to betray Zamasu once Goku Black realizes that there would be no powerful opponents he could fight in his Utopia, but deep down he's still Zamasu in Goku's body, and as well all know Zamasu hates mortals with all his might. This makes me believe that even if he did switched sides and helped Goku and Vegeta seal Zamasu he wouldn't stick around for long and would travel the universe and live in solitude while training on his own. Also, technically wouldn't Goku Black be a Universe 10 fighter? Why would he join Universe 7 in the tournament of power when he belongs to Universe 10?
Well he stole the body where belongs to universe 7 son Goku so he joined to 7th universe
I understand that. I feel like he would be like how piccolo jr was, living far away in solitude, trying to figure out who he is and maybe, how to repent even more.
Plus we could think of it this way perhaps consider this the pysche of the Body Zamasu connected to being Put in full command and Zamasu Being unable to influence him anymore with that theory in mind black would be a completely different person from Zamasu
This is just speculation, but since Zamasu considered Goku’s body the perfect war machine. There would be no point in just letting Goku and Universe 7 die without knowing the heights he could reach.
It _was_ Son Goku that helped Goku Black tap into decades of power with a simple sparring match, imagine what he could achieve with *_years of training?_*
Goku Black may have unlocked his godly reserves, but Goku in canon has far surpassed that already. I think it’d be something like *”You can’t die yet mortal, I wanna see how far I can go.”*
@@TUCell-ps5mi He wants to use Goku's potential to break his own limits, and after seeing the power of the Gods being rivaled by mere mortals, having a Mortal Body and one of the more potent mortal genetics with the Mind and Ki of a God should make them inherently better for progress in the eyes of Goku Black.
Honestly I would have loved to have every enemy in Super to be turned good, and Zamasu has a lot of potential to become good. Just wouldn't make too much sense after everything Black has done.
Yeah. Zamasu had potential to be good. Can’t say the same for black however. He has less of a chance than perfect cell, which is also a bit ridiculous
@@lapplandkun9273 perfect cell was just a fighter. Destroying the planet was the last thing he had in mind
@@flamingcat1101 he absorbed living people
@@Airuz1 goku black terrified the whole planet
@@Airuz1 I've always had a theory about cell that he never really would have destroyed the earth had goku continued to fight nor do I think he would have killed goku, I personally believe had cell won that fight he would have done exactly what goku would have done and just told goku to get stronger so they could fight again and he would have left earth to return one day. Basically what I'm saying is I believe cell was never really a bad guy he just wanted to fight goku but got pissed when he was forced to fight a whiny 11 year old after getting g-blocked ( goku blocked )
Goku Black: You're Goku, you're Goku (points to Goten), I'm Goku! Anymore Gokus I should know about? (Goku Jr. from the future appears) I'm out of here.
Goku (Xeno): Bonjour
Goku (GT): hey it's me goku
Also bardock
:Turles:What The Heck Am I-
*No*
@@My_2007_7 Goku Black:*please kill me*.
Imagine how pissed Vegeta would be seeing 2 Kakarots both stronger than him.
So basically the Goku black arc in general ?
Goku had kaioken x20 which put him leagues ahead of Vegeta and Goku black was kicking their asses already so
This is a good theory I always thought about Goku Black turning good
yeah same
goku black's mind isn't right for ui since you have to be more relaxed and zamasu isn't goku
He's more Goku now
@@fleta4112 how so? his mind is still zamasu born and raised on the cotton field hating mortals just cause he likes to fight doesn't make him goku
Who says you have to be relaxed
@@hunterzoom1793 what the episode you have to be care free but not to carefree contrast goku and vegeta
@@hunterzoom1793 ultra instinct literally the state of mind where your so relaxed you only focus on the fight itself
This was dope story @Carthu's Dojo ! Could u continue resume it now that the Moro Arc is completed in the manga? Also could you find a way to include Broly 🤔😀.
At first I had some doubts about this but in the end it was totally worth it. It was an amazing what-if I would love to see fully animated!
this is just the best case scenario for trunks's timeline i love it
me too
And the best part is that it wasn't entirely pointless like it was in canon.
I generally dont think goku black can get ui that easily,as its a state that cant be earned by just watching.
Goku was able to use it because whis had been teaching it to goku and vegeta as we saw in a flash back.
While goku black should be able to get to it i doubt he should in that manner.
I also dont think goku should be able to trigger it that easily after he saw black again but not as easy as black did.
But you saw how fast developing he was, achieving super saiyan in the original dbs in only a couple days/weeks
@@4GForGaming yea but Goten and Trunks got ssj easily plus ssj isn't nearly as hard to attain as ui especialy Omen Ui just by watching
Black is Zamasu, so he is already accustomed to God Ki. He can control it well enough to make a ki sword (in the present at that) otherwise his Rosé would just be blue/purple instead of the pink that it is. Goku shouldn't attain it that easily, but Black should be more than capable with such perfect ki control
@@itsjustketsu9812 yea but Ui isn't about God ki neither about controling it it is about calm mind and Goku Black doesn't have it and Goku got it first Time bc genkidama hit him
@@itsjustketsu9812 vegito can do that and he just did it for the memes.
Gogeta can literally make a ball that exorcises evil
Good stuff i was impressed with your idea on where you took the story!💯✊ keep up the good work
I feel back has the potential for omin or a rose varent of vegetas blue evelution but master ultra instinct requires a great mind set too.
I say he can do omin becuase beerus can also use omin in the manga and roshi pure skill was similar in the manga as well, i feel back could adapt to match either of them.
Highly doubt that Goku Black would get UI. His Rose form is literally a HAX, increasing his power fast when he fights stronger opponents + as you stated earlier, Vegeta and Goku wouldn't want to fall behind Goku Black's power.
So, Toppo would still get his G.O.D form and Vegeta would get SSBE.
Golden Frieza would get eliminated by G.O.D Toppo (personally I'd like to see Friezaw get his ass handed to him) and Gohan would get eliminated (together with Dypso). Goku SSBK, Goku Black in SSR, Vegeta SSBE and Android 17 are still in fighting Jiren, but Vegeta still gets eliminated. Goku goes UI while Goku Black still tries holding off Jiren.. And then the entire fight proceeds as the anime put it (replacing Golden Frieza with Goku Black SSR).
no frieza here, trunks replace him. but i do agree, just make black stick with roze while goku master ui. both are hax form, but at least cool to have different power
Ahh yesss
*Goku Black Soviet State Republic*
Seriously? Everyone already has Hax to begin with. Why not Goku Black?
Im glad u made this was searching for this the other day and was suprised it wasnt made
How whis explanes ultra instinct: its a teqnikue that gods strugle to master
How youtubers explanes it: Brith in and brith out
brith
@@k7rize how does that translate to fries
*Godzilla have a stroke trying to read this and died*
@@NeoXwX stroke read a godzilla having try to this and died
@@herospaces4114 read stroke godzilla had a trying to and died
Yo these what if vids be hitting it different
What if broly was found in the future trunks timeline
Uhm he'd be dead lol
I mean he doesn't exist because he'd be dead. Earth was the last planet Zamasu was trying to eliminate all life from
@Order Power that doesn't make any sense😂 so when they fused they killed all living mortals even though they didn't even leave the planet? Okeh. And uhm I think I remember Zamasu saying that Earth was the last place but I'm not sure
@Order Power oooh you mean that. I thought you meant merged Zamasu since people call that Infinite Zamasu aswell. But still I think Zamasu and/or Goku Black already killed all life except for earth
Trunks will have to fuse with Trunks. SSR Merged Trunks should be able to win
I personally think Black would want to get his normal body back and just train from there. Maybe get to the tier of Super Saiyan 3 Goku.
nah. That sayian mentality is kicking into full gear inside his mind, which is why he changed in this what if. It wouldn't make any sense if he went back into his weak old body.
Omg! You made the story so much better.
Honestly we already sort of see Goku's body "Fighting Back" against Zamasu's influence, "Corrupting" him.
Seemingly unlike Ginyu's Body-Change technique, which seemingly transfers *everything* into the target (thus why despite having a normal brain, the Frog in Ginyu's body is just a frog, and Ginyu-Frog despite having a Frog's brain can act like Ginyu), Zamasu got Monkey's Pawed.
His lack of clarity of wording to Super Shenron seemingly only made it so his mind got transferred into Goku's body, maybe not even his soul.
Remember, Potara's "compatibility" thing is dependent on the mental state of the fusees, thus why Goku and Vegeta are stated to have a massive boost due to being very close rivals. So even if it's Goku's Body and Soul distorted to fit the form of Zamasu's Mind, Potara only cares about the mind so it would produce Merged Zamasu even if Goku Black was Goku's Body and Soul molded to the form of Zamasu's mind versus Goku's Body hosting Zamasu's mind and Soul.
This interpretation explains how Goku's "Body" can influence Zamasu/Goku Black but didn't influence Ginyu/Ginyu didn't experience similar scenarios with his body-changing (The body influencing him beyond "THIS IS SO POWERFUL!")
Heck, the presence of Goku's Soul is likely a given because Zamasu knows Goku's Techniques after getting his power "unlocked" via fighting with Goku. The body shouldn't be able to remember things like how to do a Kamehameha or Instant Transmission, that is something that is learned, not inherent like Ultra Instinct, so the best candidate for it is the Soul of Goku resonating with the body and bequithing Zamsu's mind those techniques/Super Saiyan Rose.
So Goku Black always had the risk to turn "Good" if left around for long-enough or getting too powerful, the combination of Goku's Residiual self in his soul and his body's instincts would slowly combine with Zamasu more and more as he unlocked more of Goku's power.
I wish you could include broly but it’ll be hard to do. It’d be interesting for broly and goku black to fight since they both develop at rapid rates. Maybe Paragus tells broly to raise his power a lot so it could be sensed. Goku senses broly’s power and uses his instant transmission to go to broly. Paragus would beg goku to save him and goku takes broly and Paragus back to Earth. Paragus really dislikes King Vegeta so he’d hate Vegeta and when Paragus sees Vegeta he would command Broly to attack. When Vegeta gets defeated Goku would step in then when he gets defeated goku black would step in. Goku black would put up a decent fight against broly. I’m not really sure what would happen next because I don’t really do what ifs. Maybe Goku Black kills Paragus because he knows about the SSJ form and wants to have a good fight. When goku black gets destroyed by broly I think goku would come up with the idea of fusion. Maybe Goku Black And Goku/Goku and Vegeta/Goku Black And Vegeta.
5000 subscribers with no video that’s not half bad
the only issue is that rose black and Goku know how to turn on MUI or regular UI in mear moments, I'm not sure if Broly could compare to MUI no need to fuse when they have a form stronger than fusion.
alex john I mean if broly can stand up to SSJ Gogeta I’m sure he’d be able to handle MUI. Or Goku and Goku Black toy around then broly gets stronger but it’s too late and they can’t do any damage or do very minor damage.
@@subscriberswithnovideo-vk7gr Yeah Broly could becayse Broly is stronger than Jiren by a long shot according to the scans and info given in the movie and the fact that Gogeta SSJ1 was holding broly back means that SSJ1 Gogeta is stronger than TOP Jiren and MUI Goku.
This means Broly full power is also stronger than MUI goku from the TOP which again wasn't a bit difference in training time inbetween then and the movie so they're not that much stronger so Broly could in fact handle atleast 1 or both of them as in hold them off. if they both went MUI
"Maybe Paragus tells broly to raise his power a lot so it could be sensed."
As if Paragus would be that smart.
Notis keep up the great work my guy
Legendary man of the year is the most important thing to me about that day in the world and I love it when it comes
Always good to visit the oldies. :)
While I agree with some of the choices, like having Goku Black betray Zamasu as well as joining the tournament, there are more that I don't agree with.
First off, looking for the super dragon balls would be too much of a hassle for someone that, at the very least, doesn't care about mortals that don't benefit him.
Secondly, I don't think he would willingly join Goku and Vegeta, since he's commited many heinous crimes that could warrant his destruction.
Thirdly, Goku Black doesn't have the same mindset as Goku. He's shown that his saiyan body makes him impulsive, almost chaotic. This would make him incapable of accessing any form of Ultra Instinct. Even Sign would be out of reach.
Fourthly, the inclusion of Trunks goes against the gods' rule of time travel, which is that it is strictly prohibited.
And fifthly, the awakening of both Ultra Instinct forms was way, way, WAY too easy for both of them.
Completly agree this had alot potential but it felt rushed
@@ugandanknuckles2639 just like Super as a whole.
1:07 Yo, that art is fire!
I'm happy so far being in your dojo you Teached me a lot master
Pls Continue This!
I love how you used my FAVORITE CHARACTER BY FAR to be in the tournament of power and you made Black good.
Hi Carthu , still can't believe it was 10k the other day
Thanks man fir that theory. I always wondered what could happend if black turned good
10:54 if this part was animated
What If: Goku never lost his tail or SSJ4 was developed some time before Super
goku would've died
Your my favorite What if CZcamsr :D
YOOOO a animated version of this would be *AWESOME!!!!*
Nice!
I have cosplayed both Goku Black and Goku Black Rose at Comic Con! :D
Notification squad where you at!!!
IM HERE BRO!
*makin' toast!*
Mine came late :(
Here
No one:
Carthu: this is where broly comes in the picture
This was really fire 🔥
Jiren: closes eyes breathes in and out*
Jiren eyes: opens and are silver*
Goku black and goku: does ultrea instinct*
Vegeta: Closes eyes*
Vegeta: breathes in and out and opens eyes*
Vegeta eyes: Turns Dark blue*
Vegeta: *OH CMON*
Since when could they just breath in and breath out and boom Ultra instinct
OH Yeah Yeah - right? Feels like a bargain sale on UI
@@phoenixfar6288 Vegeta: NOT AGAIN
Preston Garvey lol
OH Yeah Yeah since the recent manga chapters where goku actually turn on UI omen at will
OH Yeah Yeah
It’s to save time. 😄
10:46 OMFL XDDDD
Goku Black on the right gives me cringe
U knw if someone could animate this whole video I love you
Please continue this
Your channel is going to grow quickly, keep updated and uploading ! Get a good fan base before the return of super !!
I wish ur comment had more likes...
What if Goku Black turned good part 2?
yeah part 2 will be awesome
I guess in the Moro Arc?
@@animeking830 before morp's arc there's broly's one
I really love these videos so much. I have this sort of meme in my head though, where these videos are always like What if "X" was/ did "Y"? Answer: Everyone is stronger and wins easily
Awesome story dude
"What if nappa was spared by Vegeta back on Earth" next? 🤔 I think that'd be interesting 😁👍 amazing video as always my dude! 😁🤘
That's a dumb idea for Vegeta to wait alot of months for him to be fully healed and help someone that is paralyzed.Nappa also wasn't following orders from Vegeta,so Vegeta as basically angry.
@@thenoobplayer6798 I mean Vegeta would probably think that he need to keep the saiyans that are loyal to him alive in this what if. Also you seem to forget about how good those healing pods are.
@@lightingthief4482 They are good but I don't think that it would heal a paralyzed person.Vegeta would also probaly say that nappa is(I don't know how to explain this,but..)like a 'harm' or 'shame' to the saiyan race because Vegeta would only want strong saiyans and not weak ones.
@@thenoobplayer6798 it's carthu we're talking about. He'll think of something 😂
Carthu: Goku dives into the fight with Jiren
My last braincell: Goku dies in the fight with Jiren
Me: 😨
Same here
We needed a part 2
You really messed up with the top characters you didn’t really look out that much but not gonna lie nice story
Btw if he restored planet earth to where before he came then bulma would be alive
What if goku was the legendary super saiyan and not broly?
Good idea
That would make king vegeta send goku to vampa instead of broly, bardock did care about goku so he might follow him to vampa but broly and paragus along with all the other sayins would die and it would just be boring for a while because frieza would eventually kill vegeta nappa and raditz. Beerus would wake up eventually and since goku (and maby old bardock) are the only sayins left beerus would go to vampa and fight them. Whats interesting that could happen is that if goku goes into his legendary form Whis would offer him the job as god of destruction and goku would probably say yes and start training under whis and would get the same transformation as toppo did with that the u6 tournament would be easy and since he was training to be a god of destruction Zamasu would understand and not take the body and since goku is respectful he wouldnt go up to zeno so no top but moro could still happen
Instead of kakaaaarooot we will have
Brrroooolllluyyy
D Naranjo bardock is smart so he would lie about Goku
@@ojpickle5923 bardock would hide his son from everyone and tell everyone that his son has a very low power level and then bardock would send him to earth and the story continues except no broly
I remember telling you this on your live
Tien: AM I A F*CKING JOKE TO YOU
Sawada Tsunayoshi Yes, Tien is high key a joke in super LOL
Loving it 😊
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Or we could just go by the manga and say that gowasu actually convinced him to be good
First! The weirdest part was that I didn’t even have the notification bell on 😂😂
Jackson Rowland good for you
I don’t care
@@xcrossishere good for you no one cares that you don't care.
@@theriverswarning no one cares that no one cares that he doesn't care
@@nyohaz4797 No one cares that no one cares that no one cares that he doesn't care.
I am officially addicted to these what if videos
Tbh I didn’t think I’d like this but I loved it great job
*For the broly arc:*
I believe that the frieza force would still be around and thus meaning Cheelai is still around to find broly although Paragus get's intel from berryblue that the saiyans are there and thus meaning thus the broly saga starts there
smart
Wouldn’t Brody not go super saiyan because Frieza couldn’t kill Paragus to trigger his rage
what if: zeno was in the torunament of power
well, he would delete the competition, that's it, even if someone WAS fast enough to knock him outta there, he would be PISSED.
@@prestongarvey2599 well said he would 😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😡 PISSED
@@ultrainstinctmaster1355 ikr
*yeet and delete*
Please continue this with the manga arcs
"tournament of berrus." Legit just laughed
i always thought i always wondered if the Kaioshin and Majin could become destroyers. because Zamasu and Buu might fit that role if they were good. but Anroiod 21 would fit that roll perfectly ❤️. if only there was grand supreme kai chronoa and a majin like Android 21 god of destruction and an angel with Towa's personality all in universe 7 ❤️
Best comment ever i like your thinking
What if: Goku never lost his tail.
he would've died as many enemy's would've grabbed his tail
So monke
@@Kyuubey0406 he learned how 2 control and train his tail at 12 so he’d be fine
@@Kyuubey0406 no he wouldn't he would learn that his tail is a weak point and train so doesn't become weak point anymore. Which means SSJ4 would be canon
I want to see this in a future
Jiren: who is this goku black
Goku: he's me but stronger
Wouldn’t bringing both Black and Trunks to the tournament of power result in Universe 7 getting erased, considering time manipulation is a big crime
But zeno like goku he would let it because he is great friends with zeno and he would like to see black and trunk battle
EvilRey De la cruz Beyblade battles that would not matter if Goku would have lost the Tournament Zeno would erase him anyway. I’m pretty sure Zeno wouldn’t pick favorites. He was about to push Goku’s button when he took the spirit bomb’s explosion. Sooooo they’d get erased for doing a crime by bringing not one but 2 characters who’ve manipulated time many times. Now you could argue that Goku brought the Zeno from the future to the Zeno of the past but my counterargument is that you cannot defeat Zeno i don’t even think Zeno could defeat himself so they just took the Zeno from the future in.
@@King_Lejin you do have a point
@@King_Lejin eh future zeno didn't think of it as a crime.
The Original Otaku i think solely has to do with his childlike mind. Present Zeno on the other hand knows it’s a crime and would erase them.
Goku: Ultra Instinct
Goku black: Omega Instinct
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@@-storm-4318 Goku Black:😎
This is awesome
part 2 please :)))
9:18 goku dies an the battle with jiren?
Is that what i heard
I think he said dives
@@dragonballfanatic5170 Yeah but it sounds like dies.
I feel like this Goku black would from here train to surpass Beerus and would try to take his role as G.O.D, then using the role to make changes in a different way from his original plan
I wanna see a part 2 of this
I want to see part two Soo badly
Hello Carthu can you do a what if jiren joins the Z fighters?
Trunks would not have his sword in the TOP because in the rules, you couldn't bring weapons, so that's a heavy hit to Trunks
I mean his sword is broken anyway so it doesn't matter, and energy constructs are allowed to his energy blade and sword of hope are cleared as long as Trunks can make a hilt from his energy, and while killing isn't allowed maiming and crippling is
@@TyraziumGod True, but does that take constant energy to keep the sword up, or is it just a one time thing for energy consumption, because that could be a problem too
@@Lucas-jc2go trunks is a pretty good hand to hand fighter.
However, if the Zenos think his sword is cool, then that rule would be disregarded
Your intro is awesome ._.dbz🧡🧡💙💙🧡💙
I personally like this concept could you please do more on goku black.