Pretty much. You will notice liberals never set up new churches or are able to actually proselytise like conservative churches. Liberals can only hijack conservative churches and literally destroy them from within. They are literally incapable of bearing any good fruit. The fastest declining church in America is the United church of Christ, which is one of the most liberal and progressive churches there is.
Evil is at it's core, a corruption of good. You can't have evil without knowing what good is to begin with. Even from a biblical standpoint because sin, in it of itself is fundamentally going against God, not just doing bad things.
@@lukasnahlik1979 That's more like a centrist policy than anything. Leftist economics is about forceful collectivization, abolition of private property, etc. Just reading on the Bolshevik revolution should give you a good idea of their evil.
@@DouglasGross6022 Nice = I don't want to harm your feelings or be incovenient or divisive Kind = I actually love you and care more about your salvation than any temporary bad feeling
I've noticed conservatives in general slowly realizing many such lessons. The libertarian element in particular. It is going to be a slow and painfully long thing for it to come to a full force element. This, while maintaining some traditionalism, is the way, and people are slowly pushing their way back in. It's really unfortunate it has had to get to this place for use to force back, but it is truly time. I think the biggest reason conservatives have a retreatism mindset is because they're concerned with their immediate children and family usually. Send your child to college but arm the child with the ability to think and oppose and research, and ensure it is a good college. Long term there's a good chance we can win this over time, because the leftists are not having children, but we need to really realize some of these lessons and be far more involved in our own children's lives. Now don't be a dictator, because that will ensure rebellion, but be smart about how you raise your children, be communally involved as much as you can.
I mostly agree, but am still confused about what is being advocated. How is the left not having or raising their children? (I live in Los Angeles and have been to Canada, I’d notice) Most radio/tv/internet conservative media has been solely focused on supporting financial scams, and lack any kind of coherent principles or loyalty. I’m reminded of Regan and Thatcher who were very charismatic, but ultimately changed nothing (aside from sending many conservatives back to the stone age) because they didn’t give people a goal to strive for, and their allies turned on them.
I almost skipped this video, Thank God !!! I did not, you are 99% RIGHT ! Someone Finally has to say it Out Loud. Thank You for the video, it is a topic Christians are Avoiding.
"Libertarian mindset is a losing mindset" Realest words ever. Socially liberal conservatives need to understand the culture war cannot be won by GDP and Economic throughput.
Nor can it be won through government action. You realize that every bit of power you give the government will be wielded by liberals soon enough, only with less restraint?
"fiscally conservative socially liberal" is an oxymoron. Because social liberalism is the cause of fiscal liberalism, and fiscal conservatism is only possible with a strong community
Christian mindset is also a "losing" mindset. Jesus didn't come to put us at the top of the food chain so we can oppress others and get lots of power and wealth for ourselves in this world.
The issue with the "retreatist" standpoint is that unfortunately, it isn't voluntary in many cases. You could say that a transgender woman is not a woman, but this only permits for the liberal, much more militant culture to ostracize you and turn you into a pariah, leaving you only in the comforts of your fellow conservatives. Many alt-tech companies exist today because they were formed from the involuntary exodus of conservatives from many of the internet's mainstream media, yet these sites are all hermitages and monasteries locked away from the real world that cannot and will not surpass mainstream media. The same could be said about more physical examples too. If a Christian were to send his kid to university, and that kid were to espouse his conservative-leaning beliefs on social issues, he'll get bullied and ostracized, and no self-respecting father will dare risk transforming his son into a martyr for the sake of restoring university culture to the right path. He'll pull that kid out and home school him. That's just what I think about your second point, anyways.
Pretty much. Conservative attitudes are isolated on purpose, because the best way to kill an idea is to force it into very small groups that are afraid to communicate outside their own small, ostracized circles. It also results in more extreme attitudes and discourse in said circles, which results in more justification for ostracization of everyone in that group.
Well, that depends on how old the child is and how grounded they are in faith. Because we have been called to suffer, and if for instance, my father believed that I was actually capable of standing strong through that then he'd probably send me and I'd be quite willing as well. Do recall what Romans 5:3-4 says "Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not put us to shame" and there are a lot more verses like that. 2 Timothy 3:12 says "Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted," and 1 Peter 2:21 "For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, so that you might follow in his steps." If we live a life for Jesus then we will be persecuted as said in Matthew 5:10-12 "Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you." We should not just be willing to be persecuted but if we are persecuted for speaking the truth, for righteousness sake? We should rejoice in that, we should be glad, because one, the bible tells us to, and two, if we are being persecuted because of righteousness' sake then they've heard us. This is also one of the reasons why we are meant to avoid things that are commonly known to be disgraceful if it doesn't contradict the Bible. Because we're meant to be persecuted for Christ's sake and not because of that dumb thing you did last week. This is stated in 1 Peter 2:12 "Keep your conduct among the Gentiles honorable, so that when they speak against you as evildoers, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day of visitation."
As John Wesley (the founder of Methodism) himself said, “What one generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace.” This is essentially what happens with a libertarian mindset that teaches toleration (live and let live).
Brother and sisters, let's remember to read Scripture and pray earnestly for faith and wisdom. Let's minister to the people at the lowest rungs of society. Not just preach and convert, but feed, clothe, and comfort. Let the light of Christ shine through us. If it corrects the course of the culture, to God be the glory. If it brings persecution and hardship, to God be the glory.
There are some interesting thoughts here, but I think your conclusion begs the question: why conservatism? If many progressive ideas and institutions are rooted in Christianity, and many conservatives have abandoned Christian ideals in order to "fight" liberalism, why should you pick a side? Isn't the logical thing to do to realise that you don't need to be constrained by the secular construct of "left vs right", reject both the "liberal" and "conservative" worldviews and instead focus on a "Christian" worldview? It shouldn't be the Republicans or the Democrats who are the ultimate authority on what is the right course of action, but rather God.
You are conflating political parties with ideology. They overlap since each respective party claims an ideology, but that does not mean the right emobidies conservatism. Leftist Progression being rooted in the distortion of a christian ideal does not make it that ideal. To enslave ones wife, chaining her to the stove would be a distortion of the command for wives to submit to husbands. True submission is freely given. So bondage/enslavement would be a distortion of submission that is rooted in the idea of submission but in practice does not reflect its value. Speaking of distortion you took the videos ideas of Christians abandoning mainstream culture and distorted it to be Christian's abandoning christian virtues to "fight the left". The entire video he has been talking about Christian flight. Yet you have distorted it to equate leftist ideals as being an equal representation of christian behavior as the right. Which is absolutely false. So your vary comment distorts the message of his video to equate leftist ideals as moral to the right when that was not his message. and to promote fence sitting. G-d commanded action to bear our crosses not passivity. So at best you completely misunderstood the subject at worst you are being intellectually dishonest.
Leftists subvert natural order, and Christianity is the natural truth. That's why Christianity and conservatism go together. If there is a worldview that isn't supported by conservatism but is supported by Christianity, I would support it, and so would any other Christian conservative. But that never really happens.
Progressive ideas and institutions are not "rooted in Christianity" they are actively opposed to Christianity, and are actively attempting to erase it from society. Pretending that "both sides are just as bad" is a fallacy, and the simple fact is that one side is actively hostile against your faith whilst the other is being demonized for trying to protect it.
@@umrapazai7484 Ignoring objective reality is not "based", and this duality was created by left wing politicians in the aftermath of the French Revolution, who openly called for the destruction of Christianity as an ancient superstition, and served as the direct inspiration of Karl Marx and the Communists.
I myself am probably the opposite of libertarian in mindset. The libertarian says “I believe a gay couple should be able to protect their weed farm with fully automatic weapons”, I’m more the person to say “I believe in Christianity, family, environmentalism, science, culture, and the common good so we should defend our society with whatever means necessary”.
@Seb Gillen I like that. My only cavet is that "science" and "enviromentalism" has been distorted from the left, we both know that real science is seeking truth and real enviromentalism is stewardship. What are your thoughts when a progressive tries to use being green or "studies" as a weapon of their ideology. I know many Christians are split on evolution vs creationism and the green push. Have you ever read "Evolution Impossible: 12 reasons why by Dr John F Ashton"? That is a book that helped shape my stance. Is there any books that you really like?
"whatever means necessary" is wickedness, and a staple of Marxist thought. "Whatever means are necessary AND righteous" is the only Christian perspective. Believing the only way to protect good things is by doing bad things is, quite simply, just faithless nonsense. Perhaps you didn't really mean "whatever means necessary" in that way, but you should clarify.
That's Paleolibertarianism (or Christian libertarianism) for ya. There's more Libertarian school of thoughts, Agorism is what I've been learning recently.
Yes! Christian subcultures are a must. We need to branch out from the Church and influence organizations and other third party platforms such as maybe gaming, twitch, media.
Nice to have the abundence of content recently! Planing to get and wear a "take back the month" shirt to take june back for the most sacred heart of Jesus.
take back both months. We don't need a month for anyone. Neither LGBTQIA+ nor Black People really need their own month and most black people (that I know at least) don't think it's necessary either.
You're totally right about the libertarian mindset. It's absolutely a losing philosophy vis-a-vis in politics vs the left. I personally used to be a libertarian, after my liberal phase, but in addition to that being a losing mindset in regards to culture, I just think it's an unworkable philosophy in practice. It's just something that might seem good on paper but is not in reality. I think conservatives are finally waking up a bit and realizing we must exercise political power instead of just "no, we don't want to impose our will on others." No? Well then continue to have culture and society ripped away from you and destroyed.
The thing about the libertarian mindset is that it’s based of this idea that the other side is party to the truce, when in fact the left will always seek to expand its influence. A lot of the ideas of libertarians are similar to that, libertarians ( at least philosophically) that vices like drugs are to be tolerated but are immoral, and that if one is to abuse drugs that they will just ruin themselves without effecting those who fly straight. However this idea has a critical flaw due to the very nature of human activity, monkey see, monkey do. We all feel such a need to conform to at least some aspect of culture that in the end it will take over.
I think believing that government power is the key to swaying hearts and minds just sounds bizarre, frankly. What support do you have for that position?
@@chico9805 Did Christ try to control the state? Did Paul and the apostles of the early church? How did God react when Israel wanted a King? Historically, has the State made the Church better? You're thinking as a non believer. You might as well be an atheist.
No, the worst thing that happened is when they chickened out of that mindset because they saw it wasn't winning. There's this idea that good always wins, when it's really pretty much the exact opposite.
Geez dude you're pumping out videos like they're being made on an assembly line. I love listening to your videos while driving, keep up the great work!
I just wanted to say, thank you for being an inspiration. I've been nominally Christian all my life, but I never took it seriously, and I flirted a lot with so-called Progressive Christianity. It's only relatively recently that people like you have inspired me to start taking my faith more seriously. It's been hard, especially in a place like Canada where Progressivism has sunk its roots deep into society, but seeing another Zoomer willing to take a stand for true Christian beliefs has been a huge blessing. Christians, especially young Christians, need strong role models who can show them an alternative to the kind of world the Left is trying to build. Thank you for being one of those role models!
You can’t use government to bring someone into the kingdom. You can’t legislate morality means you can’t use the law to change someone’s heart. People have to choose God out of their own choice. Not out of force. God doesn’t even force people to be Christians so why should we? The law is meant to protect your human rights. Not to make you do the right thing. You have to choose to do the right thing.
You absolutely can legislate morality. Morality, in truth, is objective and originating from God, yes. In practice, without a great deal of community support (and what is the government but the manifestation of community taken to its logical conclusion) people fall into believing it to be subjective and go utterly insane. Human rights tend to find origin in the French Revolution. The same Revolution that butchered Christian clergy, had a hedonistic festival dedicated to a "Cult of Reason" and then had all those revolutionaries guillotined by the adherents of the "Cult of the Supreme Being" (the leader of which, Robespierre, outright stated "there is no Christ). God comes first. Before everything. Even before your civic sensibilities
You hit the nail on the head with the second one, I live near a big city and hate it, id much rather live out in the country, just a cabin in the woods type, but I suppose that is also what fits my personality. I grew up outside riding quads, boating, and camping every summer and fore the most part still do. and I lived in a big city during college, but I really did miss my simple home.
As a christian who also happens to be a leftist (not from America, important to say), I would like to point out some things. Everything I'll say should be taken as loving criticism from a fellow neighbor in the New Jerusalem. I'll be happy to exchange ideas in the comments. 1 - Criticizing "the left" is just like criticizing "christians". You said that the left wants to "normalize prostitution and any kind of sexual deviance", that leftists are "not interested in people, but only in institutional power", that they act like "do this or you're cancelled" and other real problematic stuff and it really begs the question: who are you talking about? Ghosts inside your head? Who is this "left" that you speak of? Because I know many, leftists, pretty much all my friends and some family identify with the group and none of them think like this (I won't even tackle the "snapchat news feed" because that was just laughable). It seems, in a charitable explanation, that your sample size of the left was very small and the individuals were very young and they all had blue hair, 10k+ tweets in their accounts and an only fans. Prostitution, for example, was a real enemy to the fricking bolsheviks, man (read anything Krupskaya or a specific paper on family from Alexandra Kollontai), and I don't even sympathize with leninists. If I say that christians always vote for the proto-fascists types because they want everyone who actually wants poor folk to live a life of dignity to worship Elon Musk instead, I must clarify WHO I'm talking about, otherwise I'm just delusional. The left does not have a nicean creed. You will find people in the group that will agree with basically any real criticism that you offer (at least partially) to the group itself. Don't speak like you've got it all figured out about "the left" because even I, who lives in this side of the fence, don't. 2 - there is no biblical basis for engaging in a "culture war". Our kingdom is not of this world. Jesus always emphasized the separation of us and the world, as well as the apostles. What we need to focus on, socially, is not "the culture", as you literally say in the video, but in loving our neighbor as Jesus loved us, introducing them to His Love. This is literally the greatest commandment, where in the New Testament any of the apostles puts the emphasis on something as trivial as “the culture”? Why do you care so much about this? This notion is totally unbiblical and I must assume that this comes from American thought. The politics of this country are the real corruptors of critical thinking. 3 - Legislation. Again, separation of christianity and the state was always emphasized althroughout the NT. We must do as Paul did with Philemon: he could order him to let Theofilus go, but he acted out of love. We could conquer and wage war, but this is not what we SHOULD do. The contrary notion is unbiblical. I won't even address the "legislation guides morality bit" because this theory always had so many holes in it that it's just not worth it and I know not even you believe that. 4 - the notion that “helping poor people”, “bettering society” and “progress” are concepts invented by christianity and leftists do nothing but hijack them and corrupt them in their villanous ways like they are some sort of powerpuff girls villain is utterly laughable. The entire eastern world, with religion and codes like buddhism and confucianism, always had these concepts. Literally every single community has some form of these concepts imbued in their culture, even uncontacted tribes. In fact, it is even more absurd when you consider that Plato and Aristotle, people that you for sure admire, were already long gone before Jesus was even born. Some leftists like me just have a different way of achieving those goals, like welfare, incentive programs and other public policies. After all, loving is the most important thing, but as Paul said, of what use is to pray to a starving man if you don’t feed him?
Marx explicity says that Church needs to be abolished for power planning and social economy. All socialist states were persecutors of Christians and other religions. The scenario is even worse with heresy, distortion and cultural and social corruption of the new left . You can say "uh, but IM Christian and IM leftist and I don't agree with these things, and this will be delusional, as It's not part of the status quo. You could say "uh but right wing is full of crap and stupid people" Well, yes, but this don't change much of the subject, that left is one the main antagonist of Church.
If early Christians had your weak and pathetic mindset then Christianity would never have spread or taken hold as it did. There’s a reason why leftists/liberal churches decline and die so quickly. They have no integrity and believe in nothing. Think about that next time. You’re only a Christian because the early Christians didn’t have your weak and pathetic leftist mindset.
I have to disagree with “there is no biblical basis for engaging in a "culture war.” We are engaged in spiritual warfare as St. Paul said. To not do anything when evil rears its head is how humanity got into this situation. The reason to fight for the culture is for the people living in it. retreating is not a loving response to the people around us. Our lord didn’t call us to be cowards, but to be courageous.
@@buckarooben7635 The main biblical basis for this so-called "culture war" is to "overcome evil with good". (Romans 12:21). Demonizing people who think different than us puts us in the same place as Jonah. Called by God to spread the gospel and call for redemption, but in our hearts we want to see their city burn. I'm a bit worn out by "Christian conservatives" because my church has been very politically compromised with the far-right these couple of years, and, while I don't call myself a leftist, I pray and have compassions for those souls who don't know the punishment they're setting themselves for. The best way to "fight" in this culture war is to be godly, to pursue godliness, be kind, wish for good to others even if they're not like us, treat our foreigners well as we are foreign in this land, and if we ever feel mocked or persecuted because of our faith, then gladly walk towards it, because it brings us closer to our savior Jesus Christ.
The primary issue with conservatism (in America I don’t know enough about European conservatism to say) is that it is inherently reactionary. It doesn’t have a system to stop problems before they fester. Conservatives are rarely proactive instead preferring to react which puts them on the backfoot.
Im sympathetic to your view but the fact is that the reason the US has a much stronger christian community than Europe because they ran away and created their own institutions. In Sweden were I come from conservative lutheranism basically got obliterated because the more biblically faithful stayed and tried to make things better but ultimately got overpowred and replaced by socialists. The situation is a little bit different because the church of Sweden is a national church with a high amount of political control, which dosen't exist in the US. But I think the same mechanisms exist in America, if conservatives stay in the large institutions they will be replaced and obliterated, if they flee they will be marginalised. As unfortunate as it is, the second option is preferable.
Paradoxically European countries are probably less religious due to state churches. A state church stagnates like a Soviet style planned economy, when American churches compete with all the competition of the free market. Which is also why Islam is growing in the UK due to aggressive Muslim Evangelism.
Damn man the topic on this was on point for me now. Today morning my friend came to school with a pair of rainbow socks and I've just been thinking the whole day about how should I express my attitude to pride if that was part of her message with the socks.
Don’t. If they question you, say you hate corporate pride. Say you hate buying stuff from Walmart faking as pride support. This way the leftists agree with you (they share that pov), and you don’t have to support something against the Bible.
I know this is an old comment, I recommend go to the issue of pride, and same sex attraction from a place of Love and God's Truth. Start with these verses and the surrounding context. Genesis 2:24 "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh." This verse occurs just after God created Eve from Adam's rib. Leviticus 18:22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. In this verse God is speaking through Moses after the isrealites left slavery in Egypt regarding romantic and sexual relationships and how to keep them pure before the lord. Romans 1:27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. In this verse Paul reiterates God's stance on homosexuality. Remember how, in this day and age it can suck for people to give up their feelings, however removing sin from our life for the sake of eternal life and peace with God is a really small price compared to eternity.
Possible methods of implenting Christian "progressive" Strategy: 1) Retake institutions- city outreach programs college chapters with campus outreach and retreats Small Businesses focused on a Christian mission into their profit/buisness model. 2) Bold and Assertive ie tell the truth no sugar coating. And be explicit in evangelizing purpose of above institutions and what is and isn't accepted. IE no disruptive behavior no PDA outside married couples while participating in outreach groups. 3) Vision for the future - micro christian communities as pockets of light, just as the early church during the fall of rome. Communities will grow organically. *all this is already being done just not enough christians are doing this seed planting that is required of us.
@Redeemed Zoomer You are spot on with everything you're saying. I wish more of us Christians and/or conservatives would hear this take on things. Keep up the good work my guy, you're doing the Lord's work.
The SBC was one of the few denominations actually saved from liberalism simply because the conservatives stuck it out and were able to retake major institutions and committees.
The same thing happened in the LCMS with Seminex. The vast majority of institutional power favored the seminary, but a swathe of dedicated laymen and a staunchly conservative president in the form of Jacob Preus managed to win the day for the conservatives to eject the progressives or cause them to leave of their own accord. Now that we are facing issues with critical race theory (I think the same thing may also be happening in the SBC right now) and other progressive doctrines seeping in, I hope we can do the right thing once again. I have seem many dedicated laymen and clergy fighting these troubling developments. I hope God will see fit to allow us to triumph.
Also “saved” from holding their own pastors accountable and looking out for the vulnerable in their congregations. Given how things went in the SBC,we should be very reluctant to call that a “win”.
What does “tolerate” mean to you in that context? It can mean so many things that I find the discussion less than useful. Does it mean ignore? Not condemn? Not pass laws against? There’s a lot of importance in those different approaches.
@@johnlong9786 I think it will vary based on the severity of the moral infraction. It would be immoral to jail someone for speaking blasphemy, for example, but you must be outspoken in condemning it and rebutting it. When it comes to things like having pornstars read books about oral sex to kids, they must be thrown in jail. I believe you could probably hammer out some very strict and apt definition of "tolerate" in this context, but it would take a long time. It is more prudent to let each Christian decide themselves how they choose to be intolerant, with regards to how they have come to understand Scripture. The Lord, for example, sometimes rebuked sin while feasting with sinners, and elsewhile violently destroyed the marketplace in the Temple. It depends, put simply.
That's a very anti-Christian mindset. Jesus did not come to help the Pharisees rain hellfire on all the "sinners", he came to heal them, and not repay evil with evil if they refused.
Ummmm... No... 1. The main problem with the libertarian mindset, and trust me I know, is that they won't organize even for their own better interests. They DO understand about the idea that some legislation of morality is necessary as in a set of common rules to make a society work. However they also take a stance that no one really has a right to tell people what to do. I know it sounds like a contradiction, but it isn't. An example might be they see the need for contract law and a way to enforce contracts that people have entered into, but they oppose a government, church, other legal entity telling them what kinds of contracts people are allowed/not allowed to get into, such as marriage. 2. Running away. Yes, but this is changing, and I use examples such as the Bud Light and Target boycotts as examples. Unfortunately for conservatives a lot of this is the result of prior conservative bad behavior. I'm thinking in terms of the wars that George W Bush got us into, outrageous activity from various televangelists, and whatnot. After 9/11 this country had overwhelming support for conservatives as people were truly both afraid AND angry at what happened. 3. I had a girlfriend like that... Honest to a fault but completely tactless, and usually made people very angry at her when she spoke her "truth". Many things that people THINK are the truth amount to little more than opinion and/or things they heard on the media and are parroting to others in return. Being nice is part of the formula baked into Christianity, and there isn't much that can be done to get around this without making outsiders see you as a hypocrite or obnoxious. One of the things that has always upset me and turned me against being a Christian for a LONG time was the overzealous pearl-clutcher types that loved to get in people's faces and moralize or start with the "you need Jesus" crap. Think about it. 4. I agree with your strategies, but one of them NEEDS to be corporate media reform. More than the cities, more than the universities, the corporate media is the reason why many leftist values are being pushed into every corner of our society and why they take hold so fast and so firm.
The long March though the institutions as a slogan And Albert moher and James Lindsay on thinking in public All add to this. Thanks for this and may the lord bless your day
I'm glad I found this video. A lot of good points were made. I was the type of person who was planning on running away from the city. As much as I prefer an urban lifestyle, the battle is to be fought in the cities.
2:37 "Guys don't worry I'm totally not critiquing libertarianism in terms of the role of government." [Proceeds to critique libertarianism in terms of the role of government] So, I'm a libertarian (when it comes to the role of government) and I think there's something that you need to understand. You can't just ban everything you don't like. Stealing is not illegal because stealing is immoral, stealing is illegal because it violates others' right to private property. The way I see it, as long as you're not hurting anybody or taking people's stuff, you should be allowed to do whatever you want, regardless of whether or not I agree with it, especially since banning victimless crimes, such as prostitution or drug use, on moral grounds has historically had disastrous consequences. Look at Prohibition. The federal government banned alcohol in 1920 with the justification that alcohol promoted immoral behavior such as drunkenness and violence. The problem is that a law banning alcohol doesn't change the fact that there remains a market demand for alcohol. If alcohol is illegal, instead of being able to buy it safely from reputable business who operate within the bounds of the law, people who want alcohol go blind from drinking illegal moonshine made in someone's bathtub by gangsters who are able to maintain monopolies through the barrel of a Tommy gun. Banning alcohol didn't stop people from drinking, it just worsened the quality of the product and led to the rise of powerful organized crime rings. The War on Drugs and the criminalization of prostitution have borne similar results. Banning recreational drugs has given a monopoly on the drug trade to ruthless cartels who skin people alive and has resulted in unsuspecting victims overdosing on laxatives laced with fentanyl disguised cocaine because reputable entrepreneurs who abide by the Pure Food and Drug Act and laws against skinning people alive are not able to operate legal cocaine dispensaries. Banning prostitution has resulted in sex trafficking rings offering disgusting sex with unconsenting minors riddled with venereal disease. In Nevada, where prostitution is legal, brothels operated by law-abiding business owners offer sex with enthusiastically consenting adults who are legally required to use protection and regularly get tested for STDs. In short, banning victimless crimes on moral grounds has done nothing to prevent immoral behavior and has only resulted more people getting hurt and the services that would normally have been provided legally in a competitive free market being offered at a much lower quality by monopolies with no incentive to improve. Let's just let the free market provide what consumers are demanding. Interfering in the economy in order to punish behavior that the state disagrees with is a leftist tactic. Using leftist tactics to promote conservative ideas is completely contradictory and counterproductive. But what does the Bible say about all this? This is a Christian channel after all. Tell me, when Jesus encountered prostitutes, did he say that they should be thrown in jail? No, instead he preached to them and convinced them to leave their life of sin without the use of force (John 8:3-11, Matthew 9:10-12, Mark 2:15-17, Luke 5:29-31). Thus, we should do the same. Also 3:35 "Republicans tend to only focus on economic issues" lol, I wish.
To say government banning stuff is a complete dead end is well too much of a a statement of impossibility it is certainly very probable a government can legislate these things like in singapore it has to do with the landmass distribution to control of territory and other factors like that isn't just this thing has completely non-work doesn't work always not work. Even in the cases like Portugal they didn't completely just say hey you can do drugs now they completely restricted it force people into rehabilitation and still cracked on on drug dealers the reason America was really fucked by drug dealers it's because of its large landmass a general poor neighborhood of countries it's next to and it's inability to really control them you have an American centric viewpoint of a world what works in other nations oftentimes does not work in others what works in El Salvador doesn't work in Mexico because the complex factors that make up a nation if you were to argue that libertarian is a moral system I would have to sort of agree with you but to say that banning stuff doesn't work is a misnomer
The reason I’m against legislating certain morality is because we live in a secular country that has a constitution. We can’t circumvent the constitution. And we can’t have the basis for our secular laws be based solely in Christian theology as we live in a secular country. You can’t quote Bible verses to Congress to get them to legislate morality, you have to use analyzable consequences.
Well I think we can legislate morality without appealing to any specific religious text. For instance, we can make a purely scientific/philosophical case against abortion and same sex marriage
@@redeemedzoomer6053 I can definitely see one for abortion, but I also thing we should do it the right way, if we want to get rid of abortion, we should do it through the constitutional process. I just don’t see how we would do it with same sex marriage, as we don’t actually have any long term examples of consequences of same sex marriage
This is ridiculous. Leftists actually have nothing against legislating certain religious morality (“helping the poor is what Jesus would want” is something you often hear leftists say in order to convince people to pass laws to help the poor). But when you try to legislate other moralities that are also biblical but which they don’t happen to approve of (like marriage being between a man and a woman as the bible makes clear) then leftists immediately accuse you of legislating religious morality. It’s a very smart leftist tactic. The morality you want to legislate (but which they don’t like) they attempt to deem as “religious” to prevent you from legislating it, but they themselves would have no problem appealing to Jesus to convince people about the morality of passing laws that help the poor.
@@nerdtalk1789 the legallization case for abortion is the same as for drugs: "drug war" was never an effective way to mitigate the impact of consumption and trafficking and so on of drugs in society. Yes, drugs are bad, but the way to minimize their effects on society is to have the state run the fabrication and commodification and everything else. Same is true for abortion: the rates of abortion pre-legalization and post-legalization in most countries who legalize it don't go up, the difference is that the people who do it are under better care. Everyone knows that abortions are not encouraged like a stroll in the park in a sunday afternoon, but if people do it anyways, they might as well do it safely. That's how I view it.
@@umrapazai7484 people aren’t against abortion, the same way, they’re against drugs, because abortion takes away a human life, it is murder. We shouldn’t legalize murder, because people will just do it anyway, so we might as well just make it safer for people to do. It’s not like a drug abuse problem. Every abortion ends in killing a human life. Even if people do it, it should still be made illegal, federally
his heart is in the right place, but if you want to keep a white collar job in a corpo (and if you havent retreat from UNI yet , a corpo is the place where you will want to be employed in), do the exact opposite of whatever he is saying. you will need to camouflage to survive and maintain civili relationship with coworkers. if your coworkers start to dislike you, especially your manager, you will never advance in the hierarchy and never succeed. consider yourself fired in slow-motion.
My Mom's go too strategy is to tell me too be quiet about this stuff, than stick her head in the ground and hope the Lions don't get her. Most Conservatives I come across either sit curled up in a corner, put their heads in the sand, or runaway, and than they shame the people close to them when said people try to stand up and do the right thing. There's this one nation stimulator game I play called Nationstates that's pretty heavily dominated by Leftists that I've been trying to fight, and I've been called a Fascist both since I'm not a Communist (anyone right of Marx = Fascist to them), and because I've worked with Fascists before since the Libertarians are non-existent and the Conservatives are absolutely fricken useless! Honestly in terms of stats, if a Second Civil War broke out the Right could crush the Left pretty handily. But in terms of mindset, the Right doesn't stand a chance against the Left at the moment. Maybe the Right deserves to be defeated and loose it's freedoms if it isn't going to step up and do what's needed to defend it's freedom and honor the sacrifices of those who have gone before to establish and defend this freedom that we cherish so much.
@@rostdreadnorramus4936 It's better than *helping* the enemy. There's nothing we *can* do because 99% of the country is now convinced we need a brutal authoritarian regime, and they don't take anyone who disagrees with that seriously.
On point 2, running away is by far the more damaging option, that needs to be really forced into people's understanding, and a successful combat of theological liberalism actually shows that. The Seminex controversy in the LCMS saw them taking back one of their seminaries from teachings of a modernist view of the bible, stopping people who then broke from the seminary to found Seminex from preaching, and the theological liberals ran away, with a lot smaller of a number then they thought they'd have. This is how the Methodist church should have acted, given they, like the LCMS, had the majority during the incident. Now, instead of losing a small fraction of churches from putting their foot down on places in violation, they ran away and ceded even more churches in the process.
This is really important stuff. And these ideas need to be spread more! If everyone that likes this video ends up making their own video repeating all of the things in this one then it could get a lot of outreach!
Yeah, the libertarian mindset has been like an addiction for me in the past. But now I realize it's just a cop out for me to not actually think. This is partially why nowadays I think Centrists are kinda cringe. Especially people who are center just for the sake of being center. The truth isn't arbitrarily in the center. That's a very teenage kinda mindset. Young teenagers who only got into politics will think this way, "both sides are bad" (even though most of the time they don't even represent the conservatives/right side correctly, they just strawman and use Hitler as the "right" which is totally intellectually illiterate).
That sounds like a rather shallow "libertarianism". If it's just a centrist "both sides are bad", sure, that's a cop out. A proper libertarian mindset is nothing like that.
I am being called to say something, and I hope there are many people here who want to listen. Although I phrase towards Redeemed Zoomer, I always enjoy a thoughtful discussion with anyone. Although I can very much respect what you're doing here, there is something underlying that becomes an itch in my mind. Watching a few of your videos, I find some laughs, and some very reasonable perspectives. Noticing that this video shares the same vernacular of past ones where you wish to retake the church, I can't help but feel the same aura of those who called to crusade and take back Jerusalem as the Holy Land, and realization starts to form. 6:247:27 This example helped give me something to work with that I hadn't had the ability to phrase before. I'm starting to feel like the phrase "take back the church", especially in the context of conversation you've chosen is missing something important. For all my life, I have been one of the oddballs in my community, even in churches. As I grew, I wanted to truly understand more, whether it be within me or outside of me. In the mix that life is, it wasn't exactly pleasant to come to the realization that the majority of people I interacted with had little-to-no care for who I am or what I find interesting. This stings, especially, when the people in a church are constantly talking about community, love, wisdom, and responsibility. The truth is that there is a venom hidden within the human condition, no matter what your philosophy is. That venom is superficiality, otherwise known as apathy or laziness. The more I've grown, the more I've become familiar with it. The greatest examples were slightly mentioned in your History of Christianity video, with Jesus' mission being easily misinterpreted by people who wished for him to conquer the very tangible Roman Empire instead of seeing that he was freeing them from the slavery within their hearts; even more so emphasized by the fact that Jesus had come at a time where the Jews were not in literal slavery, but social slavery where they bent and broke their own good potential to bargain their meager impulses from the largest human construction the world had ever known. And after Christ ascended, superficiality was continued by the perceived certainty that the Roman mess was surely the end times, and things like the crusades that were certain in saving a specific piece of tangible earth being a God ordained destiny. The tragedy is the human choice to so clearly abandon the chance of reflecting just a bit more to open up to that truth that God sees INTO you, and does not give you quick answers for your earthly cares. Back to 6:24 What strikes me here is not your focus on a general mechanism of retreating, but instead, asking why that is the case. It doesn't take long to peel back what's to blame. It's the same thing I've struggled against my whole life, to see people resign themselves to be blown away by the wind of their comfort zone. People do all sorts of things because they aren't comfortable. Even when people aren't explicitly uncomfortable, something foreign to their experience can be far too confusing to authentically engage in, unless they are the type of person who naturally wants to explore that unknown. The people in your given example had a specific motive in their hearts. Although they had won a vote within that communal body, they were like so many other people in the world, that they didn't wish to exist in something where they might have to make concerted effort to consider what to do. Consideration takes time, and can be uncomfortable, because God has told us that very thing about doing something right in the eyes of God, and how it either turns a house against each other, or catches their attention and rouses curiosity. The people in that church who retreated, in their hearts, were so disgusted by things they found uncomfortable, that they took the easy way out. The church I currently attend has a slightly different version of this apathy, as people sit in their chairs on Sunday, saying what they think is the right thing when they're socially expected to provide feedback, but otherwise sit and stare in their passively comfortable spectacle of rinsing and repeating a reliable schedule. There's potlucks, and cake, and all the fun little activities you can think of, but the clock is ticking and you won't ever find the majority going into longform discussion about God's word while being vulnerable in how God is shaping them through their individual testimony. That's the thing. Vulnerability. Beyond any narrative a person gives behind what they don't like and why they're doing something, the answer is that they're afraid to think of what will happen after they put themselves out in the open of stating who they really are and how they really feel. There isn't even a beginning of a hope to motivate being vulnerable there; even in a simple exchange of words. I use this illustration to show WHY people are running away, instead of just addressing the symptom that "conservatives have a problem of running away"-- actually going into the heart of why the problem exists. In this way, assuming the term "Christian" means "everyone who goes to church has the same understanding and connection with God" limits the ability to see these kinds of problems. I believe that you should move beyond slogans and describe the direction and tools God gave us to know the detail of what things are, why they function in that way, and articulate what the good potential is that we should chase. Here are some thoughts about what I've experienced that have repeatedly emphasized themselves as being from the wisdom of God, beyond any of our mundane thoughts. I'm thankful that the Lord has been letting me reflect on things I've been seeing, like what true kindness means. It's like how the modern world bastardizes the term "love" by trying to make it synonymous with unrelenting acceptance for everything and anything. True care also means that you want someone to avoid harm and negatively impacting others around them. It's the same reason why we want our friends and family to regularly bathe; it's best for their health, it's best for the people around them, and when it's properly understood it shows that they are mature enough to move beyond their impulsively prideful judgements on what they want in the matter. There's a book called Tactics by Greg Koukl: it has been one of the more influential studies in my mind of how to speak with anyone about a belief they hold. The greatest truth within it is something the author doesn't necessarily recognize in an articulated way: the true way to disarm someone and have a truly productive and vulnerable connection with someone is to be kind in having the most authentic curiosity in getting to know what they believe and the reasons they believe it. This also means that with the amazingly complex individuality we all have within The Body of Christ, one person may not be the exact person to help another break through their prideful understandings, but they can help plant a good seed in their minds. That is true kindness, that is true love, and it can be painfully clear in ability to be articulated. This is why, when you kept voicing this idea of retaking the church, but merely saying the abstracted phrases of "retake institutions", "be as bold as them while not being sinful", and "show people how Christianity can improve society" is not enough to illustrate. I felt disappointed that you didn't take time to reveal the grounded tools of how to do that. Answers are abound, just as much as God is present in every moment. One thought I did find right is thinking of the duality of Conservatism and Progressivism, and where that is true within God's plan. What is a true progressive Christianity, if the opposite of that is conservatism that veers towards stagnation? It is truly allowing God's word to pierce and overwhelm the vulnerable truth about who you are, how you've sinned, and the potential of who you can become because of God's love and strength. It's also the fulfillment of reaching out to others in that same sacrifice of personal comfort. What is The Great Commission about? That same kind of vulnerability in getting to know someone and walk with them as Jesus walked with the disciples. Only through that discernment, responsibility, accountability, and loving motivation can anyone hope to make disciples and build a true community. I am still trying to find ways to break through with the people around me. I am forever thanking God that I have found at least one soul who wishes to be in my presence and share these hopes with me. I pray that we can all be more brave in facing these parts of ourselves, bringing our daily worries to God, and also making the bold request that God continually puts his wisdom within our thoughts instead of thinking of 'waiting on the Lord' as a passive state.
@@elijahtaylor4698 I'm glad you read it. :) I find it to be a little disappointing that my hard-worked thoughts go mostly unnoticed, so I want you to know that I really appreciate that you took the time to read it. Godspeed to you, friend. :)
Hey man, love your content, fellow brother in Christ here. Will you make comments about the target debacle or gonna stay at the margin of that? Just a question, I see conservative commentators talking about it, but what should we do as Christians?
How can you change the culture and not be afraid when using the "wrong" pronoun can get you fired? I hear what you are saying, and I agree, but some of us are simply too vulnerable.
I have a possible video topic- I see two schools of thought emerging in the online right- Christian (represented by most mainstream conservatives and a few radicals like Fuentes) and Nietzschean (represented by BAP and his disciples). Infighting between the two seems to make up a fair amount of discourse. I would love to see a video analyzing this struggle, and your opinions on how/whether Nietzscheans and Christians can ever form a unified front against the left.
I think I consider myself a pro-life libertarian politically but a conservative Christian culturally. I do not want the government controlling people any more than absolutely necessary to preserve the basic rights like life, but I’m not okay with an agnostic shrugging of the shoulders when it comes to cultural issues. We should be leading the fight rather than retreating.
@@crystalvulpine2314 In the same place where he said that transgenderism is immoral. Which is to say nowhere. Or everywhere. Depending on how wooden you read the Bible. The principle of transgerism being immoral is clear though what the Bible says about the separation of the sexes. It’s an inescapable conclusion of what the scripture teaches even if it’s not explicitly taught in those terms. Similarly, the Bible teaches about morality and justice, and Biblical morality and justice will inevitably reflect on how we interact with culture. Do we go with the secularist flow or do we challenge immorality and injustice and seek to do good in the world? If you believe in the latter, then you believe in what I’m describing as leading the fight on cultural issues. Take a stand. But if your point is that Jesus did not specially say, “Fight the culture war!” a phrase that would not be invented for another couple thousand years, then I guess you’ve got me there.
@@boringbiblestudy1813 But Jesus did not attack his enemies, he loved them. Going on a crusade like this is not Christ-like, it's rooted in pride and hatred.
@@boringbiblestudy1813 And the fact is we will never win in this world, so trying to take over everything is not only immoral and hypocritical, but also impossible. Unless, of course, we become worldly enough to make it possible. Be very careful not to make compromises with evil for the sake of winning.
I am a big fan of Operation Reconquista and your attempts to revivify historic Protestant Theology. I have had a similar journey myself in terms of moving from evangelicalism to historic Protestant Christianity, specifically Confessional Lutheranism (thanks in large part to Dr. Jordan B Cooper). However, there are some points that I take some issue with. Fundamentally, liberals and conservatives, progressives and traditionalists, whatever you want to call them, function differently when it comes to controlling institutions. You have made the point before that the progressives won the institutions because they were patient. There is truth to this. But a major way that the more progressive side won was via deceit. They play power politics within institutions and masque their true intentions because if they didn't they may very well be removed before they can co-opt it. They promote freedom and tolerance of different views until they reach a critical mass within an institution to become definitively malignant. I have watched conservatives and traditionalists attempt to play the game of a reverse long march through the institutions or a reverse Gramscianism. Indeed, I have been involved in institutional efforts like this myself, with middling success. On these efforts I can only hope that those who follow in my footsteps in those institutions continue on a similar course of change to mine. There is also the fact that the concentrated cultural miasma of institutions is much better at changing you than you are at changing it. Look at politicians who go off to Washington DC to enact radical change. In a few years they are usually participating in the very policies they set out to destroy. The fact is, much of the time we simply aren't able to operate in the same way because it violates our moral axioms in ways that it doesn't violate those of a progressive, and because we are ourselves very vulnerable to change from our environment. Conservative change tends to happen in short, organized bursts, at very opportune times. I think this is well attested to in history, especially as examined in the writings of the Italian Elite Theorists, particularly channeled through the modern day thinker Curtis Yarvin. In short, it isn't that conservatives are always cowardly, or simply aren't trusting God enough (though both are often the case), but that there are often genuine realities that make it impossible to play the same game as their opponents, let alone achieve the same results. We do need to remember that the Lord is on our side and that he has the power to grant us success in these endeavors, but we should also recognize that he may not shield us from the power of our progressive enemies and grant us the success against them in the ways that we want. You do have a fine point in that as the mainline dwindles in numbers, we can sort of swoop in and take positions, as long as we aren't removed by force. None of this is meant to be overly critical. I love the work you are doing overall and try to pray daily for your continued success in serving the Lord. As a Zoomer myself, your work to reach our particularly lost and depraved generation is truly a Godsend, and is something I hope I can dedicate much of my life to as well. I, like you also want to do everything I can to promote historic Christianity, specifically historic Protestantism, because I think the ancient faith with its timeless truths, is exactly what we need, with its objective beauty and strong emphasis on God's great gifts to us in the Sacraments. I am also very glad that you recognize the importance of beauty and culture. I hope that I can work alongside you on this, one way or another in my own area of Christ's Church. God bless you, keep up the good work.
I really have to disagree with your libertarian assessment…I feel maybe there is a misunderstanding of being socially liberal legally. Or maybe I’m misunderstanding you. You said libertarian mindset, but then you kind of started talked about laws and legalization so if I misunderstood you I’m sorry The issue with laws that govern individuals socially is that they tend to be great when your team is in power, but in a democracy, the other team can get voted in and start using those precedents to harm your social values. In libertarianism, I can be against a social issue, and protest it, and educate people, have conversations, and change minds, instead of having the government force people with legal consequence to behave in a way they don’t understand or agree with. No matter the issue, when you force someone to act or believe in something they don’t understand, you open the door for resentment and rebellion. Libertarianism in many way motivated the Protestant movement, that’s why so many came to America to have religious freedom, to practice what they believe.
I think the libertarian time in the USA is coming to an end. It is now too densely populated and interconnected to allow people to live however they choose. It's not the 1800s anymore. Most people are squeezed into a sub-urban prison. If they want to change anything they have to deal with home owners associations, local governments and possibly banks.
@@Sunlight91 I am not sure I understand your point…lots of places in the US are not urban, I live in the Central Valley of California and there are plenty of rural towns….also population growth in the us has massively slowed down in recent years, and I’m not sure what any of this has to do with legislating social values with legal consequences
@@johnlong9786 For me it is more an academic observation instead of a personal one because I don't live in the USA. The only place a liberal could tell me this is online. Then I would agree on the premise and tell them to stay away from the remaining conservative (and white) communities. These are my backup plan if continental Europe doesn't work out for me. England is being converted into a third-world shit-hole at rapid pace. The bigger cities look like a South-Asia-Africa. The local and young age demographic is completely different from the national average.
Hey zoomer, I love your content. I regularly listen to you in the background at work. Great video. My only pushback is the idea of legislating morality. I think we need to differentiate God's law from man's law. God's law dictates what we find "moral" (morality in this sense is what leads us towards, or away from God). Man's law is supposed to dictate what is productive for society and humanity. Alot (Possibly most) of the time, what society views as productive for humanity follows God's law as well (easy one of note is don't kill). We need to be very careful what we say the purpose of man's law is. In recent history, society has started to conflate man's law with morality. This is very dangerous because man's law changes frequently. The human sense of morality should never be dictated by what a government tells them is moral. For a Christian, we recognize that God's law trumps all other law, but for nonbelievers, we can't let a governmental body dictate what is or isn't morally correct. Thanks for the content
Solid video, I really liked the conclusion, but there are some nuances I'd like to comment on. First, I'm rather concerned about your generalization of "the left". I'm worried that painting a picture of "the left" that is only a single narrative could lead to being grounds for hate. I'm also concerned about how you passively equated liberalism with leftism, and conservatism with Christianity. Leftism is about economics, and is characterized by the abolition of private property (destruction of capitalism), whereas liberalism sees capitalism as the be all and end all of economics, and tries to create social change under capitalism. I'm worried that tying conservatism, with all of its connotations, to Christianity will deter people seeking God that don't agree with conservative theory.
Redeemed Zoomer, I got into reading the bible because of you, starting with the NT. I'm very interested in it and want to believe, but I find it very boring to get through, are there any tips you could provide that could help me read it, thanks :)
worship music, audiobook of the bible, prayer, listening to instrumental soundtracks to help you read, more time outside to help with attention span, reading the bible more picking a simpler translation
Your three points are spot on. However, I believe you missed a very important truth in your solution section: Politics has always been "help your friends, and hurt your enemies."
@crystalvulpine2314 That is true, more nuanced than that, but true. Justice and mercy coincide. There's a reason Jesus hasn't been in our politics for decades. He's "incompatible" with American politics. Or rather, the truth of it; American politics is incompatible with Jesus.
Culture does not diffuse from cities anymore. Rural areas actively reject urban influence these days. It’s not 1843, we know what’s happening, and in states dominated by rural areas, it’s the rural people who have the influence. I live in Iowa, and nobody has more power than the farmers, nobody. There is no corporation, person, or socialite in Des Moines that has the power, it’s the rural people. Again, a person from a city who does not understand how rural life works. We actively reject urban influence. That means movies, TV, social media, infrastructure (which we never wanted in the first place), and politics are all viewed with extreme caution and hesitancy.
Also saying “send your kids to college” is a good thing is just like evil, dude. Sure YOU made it, but on a large scale, children cannot stand against the tide of the culture around them. College is a tough one. Yes we should have the institutions, but we shouldn’t just sacrifice kids to do that, because that’s what’s happening.
I agree you shouldn't be using elementary schoolers as little missionaries, but we need educated Christians to take back the institutions and that can't happen if they don't go to college
@@floridaman318 No, he's good, he's just young and gung-ho enough to not see the faults in his mission. I think greater and more diverse personal interactions with more Christians will help him understand in time. He's still in college, so there's still a certain degree of tolerable knowitallism left. I remember being 21 and on fire for the Lord and truly believing I had all the answers to Christianity's problems. Redeemed Zoomer is there, and he does have good ideas.
The "libertarian mindset" is not about "impacting" other people, because as you said, everything impacts people. That's just super broad. It's about not physically harming other people. The non-aggression principle and private property rights are crucial for libertarianism to actually operate. Don't hurt people, don't take their property. Without both of these, you're just a pacifist. When I hear arguments like "the 'live and let live' people have ruined this country" I believe it is entirely false and is based on the assumption that libertarianism has already had such a drastic change in the culture. That's just not the case. It is more evident that the majority of people have at least some level of controlling tendencies. They wish to impose their will onto others, up to and including the use of force. Libertarians have held virtually ZERO institutional power since the party was founded. Don't blame the shortcomings and failures of the 2 party system on those who aren't even part of it. This is evident by the "we want limited government" stuff the GOP says, except the government has NEVER decreased in size while they're in power.
Just like communism libertarianism has never been tried and I don't mean this in a positive way that means we have lived in a liberal state and I don't mean naughty modern term liberal the genuine classical liberal in the ideological sense libertarianism is much like communism it is a very good paper ideology
I respect the wisdom of some of the things in this video, especially your ending on how "conservatives" can win by acknowledging what we are all actually pursuing. But I will have to disagree with the premise, and I think this last point kind of discounts a lot of your earlier points. You start by saying this is not about political left and right but hardly keep yourself from going there anyway. I think it is folly to paint that line in the sand between left and right to begin with, or with "liberals" and "conservatives". Doing so turns it into an Us vs Them and fans the flames of this "culture war" (which I'm dubious on already). I think you should adopt the idea you mention at the end of the video to your perspective on the earlier points; leftists are not aggressively pursuing power and dominance over society. Greedy, sinful people are, and many happen to have found that movements around more liberal ideas are a great vehicle to achieve this. Much like some greedy, sinful people have found conservative ideas as a good way to achieve power in the past and in modern day. Even within the Church! Not everyone who wants gay marriage or to change their gender to a goat is selfishly seeking power over Christians. They may be confused, they may not have honestly thought about opposing views, or it may be a genuine act of kindness for the mislead people in their life. Leftists are not irredeemable monsters as you yourself can attest, they simply have been submerged in a different way of thinking. One that has, unfortunately, been corrupted in some ways by sin. I think a lot of the way our message is communicated...needs some work. When the face of Christianity is not the loving, forgiving, wonderful face of Jesus but instead the hateful and stern face of bottled up discontent from church communities who have fled from the threat of being "cancelled", no wonder we're losing! If the threat of losing Twitter followers is enough to make you stop witnessing though, you need to have a good long talk with the Spirit about your priorities though. If your friends and people you are close to would abandon you or hate you for speaking your beliefs, maybe you need to consider why you've surrounded yourself in hate. My opinion is this. God is not so weak as to need us to police the actions of others. Any who think that they MUST impose religiosity over the government, over politics, over culture, is calling God weak and his Church weak. If the Church is weak, strengthen the Church. Not through hate and exclusion, but by rigorous faith, discussion, and community. Which is greater, the church in rural Montana that doesn't have blue hair anywhere in the county, hasn't had to ever flex their spiritual muscles? Or the church in downtown Portland that weathers the storm and keeps their beliefs strong despite the opposition? God does not call upon us to "win the culture war". If you act to prevent others from doing things, act to change or preserve the culture of our society, how are you different from the liberals trying to change the culture to something YOU don't like? Instead of drawing a line between cultures, between factions, recognize that we are all brothers and sisters of Christ. There is no line between conservative and liberal, there is a line between sin and God, and NO they are not the same line. So welcome them to debate, welcome thoughtful and kind discussion. Don't fight them to impose our cultural ideals onto them unwillingly, invite them to our side and have them WANT to live that way. Show them where the line between sin and God is, and then let the Spirit (maybe through you) bring them to care about being on the right side of that line. That's all very idealist but I think it is better than silly, unnecessarily political labels. And, a word about cancelling: it's not real. If losing a lot of twitter followers is enough to keep you from speaking your beliefs, you need to have a good long talk with the Spirit. If speaking your beliefs would make you lose friends and loved ones, maybe you need to ask yourself why you are surrounded by hatred and people who would act that way. If speaking your beliefs in public, in person, causes you to be persecuted, hated, opposed, etc. than congrats. That's exactly what Jesus said would happen in the sermon on the mount, among other places. You're doing it right.
as a libertarian yeah i agree that's why i wasn't libertarian till i wread hoppe, who is a libertarian but advocates for more conservative societies that while lacking centralized authority operate based on private law and outside of that natural rights are the norm quite often private law and natural rights will overlap, natural laws like stealing is bad, murder is bad not completing what you promised to (being against contractualism) is bad
The vision needs to be via media. Media that inspires, educates, and stands firmly on God's principles and is cool. A media company that can provide quality entrainment, honest journalism, and highlights ways believers can/are/will come together. Otherwise it just ends up turning into complaining and finger pointing
I agree with you on the running away, and I think that's why I didn't feel a pull to go to a Christian university for college. If we all go to Christian schools, who's going to evangelize to the masses? Of course, for those who cannot withstand it they probably should go to Christian schools, but for those of us who can withstand leftism we should hold fast.
@@redeemedzoomer6053 Yes I agree. Christians being involved in the school and in its core is important. Luckily at my university, the SGA president is openly Christian at our very secular school.
@@redeemedzoomer6053 I would like you to point out one, just one passage in the Bible where Jesus prioritized institutional influence over evangelizing individuals. Just one.
@@redeemedzoomer6053 a Kingdom NOT OF THIS WORLD, a spiritual Kingdom. Churches, univerisities and earthly institutions are not part of His Kingdom, only people, and institutions are what you misguidedly focus on when it comes to your reconquista. Jesus did not entrust His power to institutions, He ALWAYS focused ONLY on people. You will never find otherwise in the Bible. You can justify yourself all you want, though.
Honestly, my main question about this is how will we win over any people if we attempt to push things that could only be legislated based on their effect on the culture? In the current state of the USA, we would quite simply be scoffed at for such "strong" beliefs. Wouldn't it be better to try to make small changes while we can, and leave the larger changes for when Conservatism has a larger hold?
There is a christian and secular explanation for why we need bold strong beliefs. Christian: He (G-d) has commanded us to take up our cross, and we will be rewarded for any injury and mocery we bear on HIS behalf. Also as in psalms HE will make our ways straight. WE can move mountains with faith. Secular: Wether the American revolution, the commies, or the Austrian mustach man. All these movements started as small and fringe. They gain a strong following when ideologically consistent and submitted as a radical answer to a problem. Freedomtoons has a video called "Republicans in 5 years" that highlights the dangers compromising beliefs and integrity for acceptance.
As a former United Methodist, I can tell you personally what a shame it was to have to vote for leaving your own house. Also I believe that instead of focusing on "Apologetics" against the secular world, we need to focus on presenting living Christian Values that should dominate one's worldview; Justice, Mercy, Love.
U make a perfect case why I’m not a conservative or leftist I’m an anarcho capitalist through and through Only the free market can conserve libertine values and conservative values at the same time
You should make a colab video with Monsieur Z on the urban rural divide and the culture war in the United States. You believe the cities can be retaken by conservatives, while he thinks that cities will always be liberal. Even though you two don’t make the same type of content, it would still be very interesting to see a discussion about those issues.
No the major cities are not important. They are a cancer and a liability. The people that move to them have only one thing on their mind: money. If the system destabilizes enough all the major cities would become graveyards real quick. Let the cities fall, let new ones grow to replace them.
Do you have any examples of christian ethics we could advocate for in legislation. I think we could win the culture on things like sex change operations for children and abortion to a certain extent, but I'm not sure how we could argue for restrictions on things for adults such as weed. When it comes to things adults do it's easier to argue for freedom rather than restriction since our society starts from a foundational idea of individual liberty.
Hey, a leftie atheist here, I like to watch your content sometimes to get a view on other people's mindsets and I would love to have a chat with you. If you have a discord server or something like that we could have a debate and that could be fun content too. Take care
I'm in the same boat too. I've been listening to lots of Bart Ehrman and learning about textual criticism, so it's interesting to see such an opposite viewpoint. A properly moderated debate would be really fun to listen to
00:58 "Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made" - J.R.R. Tolkien
Pretty much. You will notice liberals never set up new churches or are able to actually proselytise like conservative churches. Liberals can only hijack conservative churches and literally destroy them from within. They are literally incapable of bearing any good fruit. The fastest declining church in America is the United church of Christ, which is one of the most liberal and progressive churches there is.
Evil is at it's core, a corruption of good. You can't have evil without knowing what good is to begin with. Even from a biblical standpoint because sin, in it of itself is fundamentally going against God, not just doing bad things.
@HyperGravityWave Well, it was Russian culture. Russian culture is not evil.
Are you really suggesting that left-wing politics, like welfare, are evil? Left politics are fundementally about helping people.
@@lukasnahlik1979 That's more like a centrist policy than anything. Leftist economics is about forceful collectivization, abolition of private property, etc.
Just reading on the Bolshevik revolution should give you a good idea of their evil.
Being nice is cheap. Being kind is precious
Please elaborate on the distinction.
@@DouglasGross6022
Nice = I don't want to harm your feelings or be incovenient or divisive
Kind = I actually love you and care more about your salvation than any temporary bad feeling
I've noticed conservatives in general slowly realizing many such lessons. The libertarian element in particular. It is going to be a slow and painfully long thing for it to come to a full force element. This, while maintaining some traditionalism, is the way, and people are slowly pushing their way back in. It's really unfortunate it has had to get to this place for use to force back, but it is truly time.
I think the biggest reason conservatives have a retreatism mindset is because they're concerned with their immediate children and family usually. Send your child to college but arm the child with the ability to think and oppose and research, and ensure it is a good college.
Long term there's a good chance we can win this over time, because the leftists are not having children, but we need to really realize some of these lessons and be far more involved in our own children's lives. Now don't be a dictator, because that will ensure rebellion, but be smart about how you raise your children, be communally involved as much as you can.
We do need to kick the left out of the education system first, however, because corrupting the youth is how they reproduce.
I mostly agree, but am still confused about what is being advocated. How is the left not having or raising their children? (I live in Los Angeles and have been to Canada, I’d notice)
Most radio/tv/internet conservative media has been solely focused on supporting financial scams, and lack any kind of coherent principles or loyalty. I’m reminded of Regan and Thatcher who were very charismatic, but ultimately changed nothing (aside from sending many conservatives back to the stone age) because they didn’t give people a goal to strive for, and their allies turned on them.
"Because leftists are not having children" that part got me.
@@ayobithedark2772 The leftists will just take your children, and then brainwash them instead. Problem solved! 😂
Leftist thought leaders aren’t but everyone living off the govt of their policies sure are.
I almost skipped this video, Thank God !!! I did not, you are
99% RIGHT ! Someone Finally has to say it Out Loud. Thank You for the video, it is a topic Christians are Avoiding.
"Libertarian mindset is a losing mindset" Realest words ever. Socially liberal conservatives need to understand the culture war cannot be won by GDP and Economic throughput.
Nor can it be won through government action. You realize that every bit of power you give the government will be wielded by liberals soon enough, only with less restraint?
"fiscally conservative socially liberal" is an oxymoron. Because social liberalism is the cause of fiscal liberalism, and fiscal conservatism is only possible with a strong community
I don’t really care about the culture war.
Christian mindset is also a "losing" mindset. Jesus didn't come to put us at the top of the food chain so we can oppress others and get lots of power and wealth for ourselves in this world.
@@marvalice3455 That's a leftist definition that pretends "socially liberal" isn't utterly authoritarian.
The issue with the "retreatist" standpoint is that unfortunately, it isn't voluntary in many cases. You could say that a transgender woman is not a woman, but this only permits for the liberal, much more militant culture to ostracize you and turn you into a pariah, leaving you only in the comforts of your fellow conservatives. Many alt-tech companies exist today because they were formed from the involuntary exodus of conservatives from many of the internet's mainstream media, yet these sites are all hermitages and monasteries locked away from the real world that cannot and will not surpass mainstream media. The same could be said about more physical examples too. If a Christian were to send his kid to university, and that kid were to espouse his conservative-leaning beliefs on social issues, he'll get bullied and ostracized, and no self-respecting father will dare risk transforming his son into a martyr for the sake of restoring university culture to the right path. He'll pull that kid out and home school him. That's just what I think about your second point, anyways.
Pretty much. Conservative attitudes are isolated on purpose, because the best way to kill an idea is to force it into very small groups that are afraid to communicate outside their own small, ostracized circles. It also results in more extreme attitudes and discourse in said circles, which results in more justification for ostracization of everyone in that group.
Okay, but I think that's a fancy way of saying "we're too scared to not run away"
@@redeemedzoomer6053 No, it's more "we didn't run away; we got kicked out".
Well, that depends on how old the child is and how grounded they are in faith. Because we have been called to suffer, and if for instance, my father believed that I was actually capable of standing strong through that then he'd probably send me and I'd be quite willing as well. Do recall what Romans 5:3-4 says "Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not put us to shame" and there are a lot more verses like that. 2 Timothy 3:12 says "Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted," and 1 Peter 2:21 "For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, so that you might follow in his steps."
If we live a life for Jesus then we will be persecuted as said in Matthew 5:10-12 "Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you." We should not just be willing to be persecuted but if we are persecuted for speaking the truth, for righteousness sake? We should rejoice in that, we should be glad, because one, the bible tells us to, and two, if we are being persecuted because of righteousness' sake then they've heard us.
This is also one of the reasons why we are meant to avoid things that are commonly known to be disgraceful if it doesn't contradict the Bible. Because we're meant to be persecuted for Christ's sake and not because of that dumb thing you did last week. This is stated in 1 Peter 2:12 "Keep your conduct among the Gentiles honorable, so that when they speak against you as evildoers, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day of visitation."
Retreatism is ALWAYS voluntary, you either choose to stand your ground or you choose to give it up.
As John Wesley (the founder of Methodism) himself said, “What one generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace.”
This is essentially what happens with a libertarian mindset that teaches toleration (live and let live).
Brother and sisters, let's remember to read Scripture and pray earnestly for faith and wisdom. Let's minister to the people at the lowest rungs of society. Not just preach and convert, but feed, clothe, and comfort. Let the light of Christ shine through us. If it corrects the course of the culture, to God be the glory. If it brings persecution and hardship, to God be the glory.
There are some interesting thoughts here, but I think your conclusion begs the question: why conservatism? If many progressive ideas and institutions are rooted in Christianity, and many conservatives have abandoned Christian ideals in order to "fight" liberalism, why should you pick a side? Isn't the logical thing to do to realise that you don't need to be constrained by the secular construct of "left vs right", reject both the "liberal" and "conservative" worldviews and instead focus on a "Christian" worldview? It shouldn't be the Republicans or the Democrats who are the ultimate authority on what is the right course of action, but rather God.
You are conflating political parties with ideology. They overlap since each respective party claims an ideology, but that does not mean the right emobidies conservatism.
Leftist Progression being rooted in the distortion of a christian ideal does not make it that ideal.
To enslave ones wife, chaining her to the stove would be a distortion of the command for wives to submit to husbands.
True submission is freely given. So bondage/enslavement would be a distortion of submission that is rooted in the idea of submission but in practice does not reflect its value.
Speaking of distortion you took the videos ideas of Christians abandoning mainstream culture and distorted it to be Christian's abandoning christian virtues to "fight the left".
The entire video he has been talking about Christian flight. Yet you have distorted it to equate leftist ideals as being an equal representation of christian behavior as the right. Which is absolutely false.
So your vary comment distorts the message of his video to equate leftist ideals as moral to the right when that was not his message. and to promote fence sitting. G-d commanded action to bear our crosses not passivity.
So at best you completely misunderstood the subject at worst you are being intellectually dishonest.
based. I can't help but think this duality is very influenced by american politics, specifically.
Leftists subvert natural order, and Christianity is the natural truth. That's why Christianity and conservatism go together. If there is a worldview that isn't supported by conservatism but is supported by Christianity, I would support it, and so would any other Christian conservative. But that never really happens.
Progressive ideas and institutions are not "rooted in Christianity" they are actively opposed to Christianity, and are actively attempting to erase it from society.
Pretending that "both sides are just as bad" is a fallacy, and the simple fact is that one side is actively hostile against your faith whilst the other is being demonized for trying to protect it.
@@umrapazai7484 Ignoring objective reality is not "based", and this duality was created by left wing politicians in the aftermath of the French Revolution, who openly called for the destruction of Christianity as an ancient superstition, and served as the direct inspiration of Karl Marx and the Communists.
Although I’m agnostic, I still enjoy watching your vids because I like the topics you talk about and you articulate your views very well
I myself am probably the opposite of libertarian in mindset. The libertarian says “I believe a gay couple should be able to protect their weed farm with fully automatic weapons”, I’m more the person to say “I believe in Christianity, family, environmentalism, science, culture, and the common good so we should defend our society with whatever means necessary”.
that means you are BASED
@Seb Gillen I like that. My only cavet is that "science" and "enviromentalism" has been distorted from the left, we both know that real science is seeking truth and real enviromentalism is stewardship.
What are your thoughts when a progressive tries to use being green or "studies" as a weapon of their ideology.
I know many Christians are split on evolution vs creationism and the green push. Have you ever read "Evolution Impossible: 12 reasons why by Dr John F Ashton"? That is a book that helped shape my stance. Is there any books that you really like?
Those aren’t opposite statements
"whatever means necessary" is wickedness, and a staple of Marxist thought. "Whatever means are necessary AND righteous" is the only Christian perspective. Believing the only way to protect good things is by doing bad things is, quite simply, just faithless nonsense. Perhaps you didn't really mean "whatever means necessary" in that way, but you should clarify.
That's Paleolibertarianism (or Christian libertarianism) for ya. There's more Libertarian school of thoughts, Agorism is what I've been learning recently.
Yes! Christian subcultures are a must. We need to branch out from the Church and influence organizations and other third party platforms such as maybe gaming, twitch, media.
Nice to have the abundence of content recently! Planing to get and wear a "take back the month" shirt to take june back for the most sacred heart of Jesus.
#takebacktherainbow
take back both months. We don't need a month for anyone. Neither LGBTQIA+ nor Black People really need their own month and most black people (that I know at least) don't think it's necessary either.
How about nobody gets the month. I already dislike pride month.
You're totally right about the libertarian mindset. It's absolutely a losing philosophy vis-a-vis in politics vs the left. I personally used to be a libertarian, after my liberal phase, but in addition to that being a losing mindset in regards to culture, I just think it's an unworkable philosophy in practice. It's just something that might seem good on paper but is not in reality. I think conservatives are finally waking up a bit and realizing we must exercise political power instead of just "no, we don't want to impose our will on others." No? Well then continue to have culture and society ripped away from you and destroyed.
The thing about the libertarian mindset is that it’s based of this idea that the other side is party to the truce, when in fact the left will always seek to expand its influence. A lot of the ideas of libertarians are similar to that, libertarians ( at least philosophically) that vices like drugs are to be tolerated but are immoral, and that if one is to abuse drugs that they will just ruin themselves without effecting those who fly straight. However this idea has a critical flaw due to the very nature of human activity, monkey see, monkey do. We all feel such a need to conform to at least some aspect of culture that in the end it will take over.
Libertarianism is barely a cultural ideology in the first place
I think believing that government power is the key to swaying hearts and minds just sounds bizarre, frankly. What support do you have for that position?
@@johnlong9786If you don't control the state, and have no aspiration to, you've already lost.
@@chico9805 Did Christ try to control the state? Did Paul and the apostles of the early church? How did God react when Israel wanted a King? Historically, has the State made the Church better?
You're thinking as a non believer. You might as well be an atheist.
The libertarian mindset is the worst thing that ever happened to the American conservative movement
No, the worst thing that happened is when they chickened out of that mindset because they saw it wasn't winning. There's this idea that good always wins, when it's really pretty much the exact opposite.
Geez dude you're pumping out videos like they're being made on an assembly line. I love listening to your videos while driving, keep up the great work!
I just wanted to say, thank you for being an inspiration. I've been nominally Christian all my life, but I never took it seriously, and I flirted a lot with so-called Progressive Christianity. It's only relatively recently that people like you have inspired me to start taking my faith more seriously. It's been hard, especially in a place like Canada where Progressivism has sunk its roots deep into society, but seeing another Zoomer willing to take a stand for true Christian beliefs has been a huge blessing. Christians, especially young Christians, need strong role models who can show them an alternative to the kind of world the Left is trying to build. Thank you for being one of those role models!
You can’t use government to bring someone into the kingdom.
You can’t legislate morality means you can’t use the law to change someone’s heart. People have to choose God out of their own choice. Not out of force. God doesn’t even force people to be Christians so why should we?
The law is meant to protect your human rights. Not to make you do the right thing. You have to choose to do the right thing.
You absolutely can legislate morality. Morality, in truth, is objective and originating from God, yes. In practice, without a great deal of community support (and what is the government but the manifestation of community taken to its logical conclusion) people fall into believing it to be subjective and go utterly insane.
Human rights tend to find origin in the French Revolution. The same Revolution that butchered Christian clergy, had a hedonistic festival dedicated to a "Cult of Reason" and then had all those revolutionaries guillotined by the adherents of the "Cult of the Supreme Being" (the leader of which, Robespierre, outright stated "there is no Christ).
God comes first. Before everything. Even before your civic sensibilities
You hit the nail on the head with the second one, I live near a big city and hate it, id much rather live out in the country, just a cabin in the woods type, but I suppose that is also what fits my personality. I grew up outside riding quads, boating, and camping every summer and fore the most part still do. and I lived in a big city during college, but I really did miss my simple home.
yes, but the big "disgusting" cities need us
As a christian who also happens to be a leftist (not from America, important to say), I would like to point out some things. Everything I'll say should be taken as loving criticism from a fellow neighbor in the New Jerusalem. I'll be happy to exchange ideas in the comments.
1 - Criticizing "the left" is just like criticizing "christians". You said that the left wants to "normalize prostitution and any kind of sexual deviance", that leftists are "not interested in people, but only in institutional power", that they act like "do this or you're cancelled" and other real problematic stuff and it really begs the question: who are you talking about? Ghosts inside your head? Who is this "left" that you speak of? Because I know many, leftists, pretty much all my friends and some family identify with the group and none of them think like this (I won't even tackle the "snapchat news feed" because that was just laughable). It seems, in a charitable explanation, that your sample size of the left was very small and the individuals were very young and they all had blue hair, 10k+ tweets in their accounts and an only fans. Prostitution, for example, was a real enemy to the fricking bolsheviks, man (read anything Krupskaya or a specific paper on family from Alexandra Kollontai), and I don't even sympathize with leninists. If I say that christians always vote for the proto-fascists types because they want everyone who actually wants poor folk to live a life of dignity to worship Elon Musk instead, I must clarify WHO I'm talking about, otherwise I'm just delusional. The left does not have a nicean creed. You will find people in the group that will agree with basically any real criticism that you offer (at least partially) to the group itself. Don't speak like you've got it all figured out about "the left" because even I, who lives in this side of the fence, don't.
2 - there is no biblical basis for engaging in a "culture war". Our kingdom is not of this world. Jesus always emphasized the separation of us and the world, as well as the apostles. What we need to focus on, socially, is not "the culture", as you literally say in the video, but in loving our neighbor as Jesus loved us, introducing them to His Love. This is literally the greatest commandment, where in the New Testament any of the apostles puts the emphasis on something as trivial as “the culture”? Why do you care so much about this? This notion is totally unbiblical and I must assume that this comes from American thought. The politics of this country are the real corruptors of critical thinking.
3 - Legislation. Again, separation of christianity and the state was always emphasized althroughout the NT. We must do as Paul did with Philemon: he could order him to let Theofilus go, but he acted out of love. We could conquer and wage war, but this is not what we SHOULD do. The contrary notion is unbiblical. I won't even address the "legislation guides morality bit" because this theory always had so many holes in it that it's just not worth it and I know not even you believe that.
4 - the notion that “helping poor people”, “bettering society” and “progress” are concepts invented by christianity and leftists do nothing but hijack them and corrupt them in their villanous ways like they are some sort of powerpuff girls villain is utterly laughable. The entire eastern world, with religion and codes like buddhism and confucianism, always had these concepts. Literally every single community has some form of these concepts imbued in their culture, even uncontacted tribes. In fact, it is even more absurd when you consider that Plato and Aristotle, people that you for sure admire, were already long gone before Jesus was even born. Some leftists like me just have a different way of achieving those goals, like welfare, incentive programs and other public policies. After all, loving is the most important thing, but as Paul said, of what use is to pray to a starving man if you don’t feed him?
Marx explicity says that Church needs to be abolished for power planning and social economy. All socialist states were persecutors of Christians and other religions.
The scenario is even worse with heresy, distortion and cultural and social corruption of the new left .
You can say "uh, but IM Christian and IM leftist and I don't agree with these things, and this will be delusional, as It's not part of the status quo.
You could say "uh but right wing is full of crap and stupid people"
Well, yes, but this don't change much of the subject, that left is one the main antagonist of Church.
If early Christians had your weak and pathetic mindset then Christianity would never have spread or taken hold as it did. There’s a reason why leftists/liberal churches decline and die so quickly. They have no integrity and believe in nothing.
Think about that next time. You’re only a Christian because the early Christians didn’t have your weak and pathetic leftist mindset.
That is a very Fair Criticism, and Its nice to see that there can be Civil discourse between People of different Ideas (At least, Politically)
I have to disagree with “there is no biblical basis for engaging in a "culture war.” We are engaged in spiritual warfare as St. Paul said. To not do anything when evil rears its head is how humanity got into this situation. The reason to fight for the culture is for the people living in it. retreating is not a loving response to the people around us. Our lord didn’t call us to be cowards, but to be courageous.
@@buckarooben7635 The main biblical basis for this so-called "culture war" is to "overcome evil with good". (Romans 12:21).
Demonizing people who think different than us puts us in the same place as Jonah. Called by God to spread the gospel and call for redemption, but in our hearts we want to see their city burn.
I'm a bit worn out by "Christian conservatives" because my church has been very politically compromised with the far-right these couple of years, and, while I don't call myself a leftist, I pray and have compassions for those souls who don't know the punishment they're setting themselves for.
The best way to "fight" in this culture war is to be godly, to pursue godliness, be kind, wish for good to others even if they're not like us, treat our foreigners well as we are foreign in this land, and if we ever feel mocked or persecuted because of our faith, then gladly walk towards it, because it brings us closer to our savior Jesus Christ.
The gay couple defending marijuana patches with machine guns thing is an old quote from a Libertarian Party debate.
The primary issue with conservatism (in America I don’t know enough about European conservatism to say) is that it is inherently reactionary. It doesn’t have a system to stop problems before they fester. Conservatives are rarely proactive instead preferring to react which puts them on the backfoot.
Im sympathetic to your view but the fact is that the reason the US has a much stronger christian community than Europe because they ran away and created their own institutions. In Sweden were I come from conservative lutheranism basically got obliterated because the more biblically faithful stayed and tried to make things better but ultimately got overpowred and replaced by socialists. The situation is a little bit different because the church of Sweden is a national church with a high amount of political control, which dosen't exist in the US. But I think the same mechanisms exist in America, if conservatives stay in the large institutions they will be replaced and obliterated, if they flee they will be marginalised. As unfortunate as it is, the second option is preferable.
I gotta say, that's the best argument I've heard yet against reconquista
@@redeemedzoomer6053 It might be possible to achieve in America but only if you can get evangelicals to follow you. Which is kinda ironic.
Paradoxically European countries are probably less religious due to state churches. A state church stagnates like a Soviet style planned economy, when American churches compete with all the competition of the free market. Which is also why Islam is growing in the UK due to aggressive Muslim Evangelism.
@@RichardCranium. Islam is growing slowly because muslims have more children no one's converting
Damn man the topic on this was on point for me now. Today morning my friend came to school with a pair of rainbow socks and I've just been thinking the whole day about how should I express my attitude to pride if that was part of her message with the socks.
Don’t. If they question you, say you hate corporate pride. Say you hate buying stuff from Walmart faking as pride support. This way the leftists agree with you (they share that pov), and you don’t have to support something against the Bible.
I know this is an old comment, I recommend go to the issue of pride, and same sex attraction from a place of Love and God's Truth.
Start with these verses and the surrounding context.
Genesis 2:24
"Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."
This verse occurs just after God created Eve from Adam's rib.
Leviticus 18:22
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.
In this verse God is speaking through Moses after the isrealites left slavery in Egypt regarding romantic and sexual relationships and how to keep them pure before the lord.
Romans 1:27
and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
In this verse Paul reiterates God's stance on homosexuality.
Remember how, in this day and age it can suck for people to give up their feelings, however removing sin from our life for the sake of eternal life and peace with God is a really small price compared to eternity.
Possible methods of implenting Christian "progressive" Strategy:
1) Retake institutions-
city outreach programs
college chapters with campus outreach and retreats
Small Businesses focused on a Christian mission into their profit/buisness model.
2) Bold and Assertive ie tell the truth no sugar coating. And be explicit in evangelizing purpose of above institutions and what is and isn't accepted. IE no disruptive behavior no PDA outside married couples while participating in outreach groups.
3) Vision for the future - micro christian communities as pockets of light, just as the early church during the fall of rome. Communities will grow organically.
*all this is already being done just not enough christians are doing this seed planting that is required of us.
@Redeemed Zoomer You are spot on with everything you're saying. I wish more of us Christians and/or conservatives would hear this take on things. Keep up the good work my guy, you're doing the Lord's work.
The SBC was one of the few denominations actually saved from liberalism simply because the conservatives stuck it out and were able to retake major institutions and committees.
And they are nearly sunk with wokeism now. They need their own reconquista
The same thing happened in the LCMS with Seminex. The vast majority of institutional power favored the seminary, but a swathe of dedicated laymen and a staunchly conservative president in the form of Jacob Preus managed to win the day for the conservatives to eject the progressives or cause them to leave of their own accord. Now that we are facing issues with critical race theory (I think the same thing may also be happening in the SBC right now) and other progressive doctrines seeping in, I hope we can do the right thing once again. I have seem many dedicated laymen and clergy fighting these troubling developments. I hope God will see fit to allow us to triumph.
Also “saved” from holding their own pastors accountable and looking out for the vulnerable in their congregations. Given how things went in the SBC,we should be very reluctant to call that a “win”.
That which you tolerate, you tacitly support. If you do not support it, you must not tolerate it.
What does “tolerate” mean to you in that context? It can mean so many things that I find the discussion less than useful. Does it mean ignore? Not condemn? Not pass laws against? There’s a lot of importance in those different approaches.
@@johnlong9786 I think it will vary based on the severity of the moral infraction. It would be immoral to jail someone for speaking blasphemy, for example, but you must be outspoken in condemning it and rebutting it. When it comes to things like having pornstars read books about oral sex to kids, they must be thrown in jail. I believe you could probably hammer out some very strict and apt definition of "tolerate" in this context, but it would take a long time. It is more prudent to let each Christian decide themselves how they choose to be intolerant, with regards to how they have come to understand Scripture. The Lord, for example, sometimes rebuked sin while feasting with sinners, and elsewhile violently destroyed the marketplace in the Temple. It depends, put simply.
That's a very anti-Christian mindset. Jesus did not come to help the Pharisees rain hellfire on all the "sinners", he came to heal them, and not repay evil with evil if they refused.
@@crystalvulpine2314Christ also drove the moneylenders out of the temple with a whip.
@@techelitesareadisease8816 Only in John, which is known to be the least historical.
0). Conservatives accept liberal premises
"they're even better than the French" 😂
2) Running away.
Ancient Israel was good at this too, when they forgot God. Running away is a symptom not a strategy.
Israel loses when it forgets God and relies on the strength of its armies and power and wealth.
Ummmm... No...
1. The main problem with the libertarian mindset, and trust me I know, is that they won't organize even for their own better interests. They DO understand about the idea that some legislation of morality is necessary as in a set of common rules to make a society work. However they also take a stance that no one really has a right to tell people what to do. I know it sounds like a contradiction, but it isn't. An example might be they see the need for contract law and a way to enforce contracts that people have entered into, but they oppose a government, church, other legal entity telling them what kinds of contracts people are allowed/not allowed to get into, such as marriage.
2. Running away. Yes, but this is changing, and I use examples such as the Bud Light and Target boycotts as examples. Unfortunately for conservatives a lot of this is the result of prior conservative bad behavior. I'm thinking in terms of the wars that George W Bush got us into, outrageous activity from various televangelists, and whatnot. After 9/11 this country had overwhelming support for conservatives as people were truly both afraid AND angry at what happened.
3. I had a girlfriend like that... Honest to a fault but completely tactless, and usually made people very angry at her when she spoke her "truth". Many things that people THINK are the truth amount to little more than opinion and/or things they heard on the media and are parroting to others in return. Being nice is part of the formula baked into Christianity, and there isn't much that can be done to get around this without making outsiders see you as a hypocrite or obnoxious. One of the things that has always upset me and turned me against being a Christian for a LONG time was the overzealous pearl-clutcher types that loved to get in people's faces and moralize or start with the "you need Jesus" crap. Think about it.
4. I agree with your strategies, but one of them NEEDS to be corporate media reform. More than the cities, more than the universities, the corporate media is the reason why many leftist values are being pushed into every corner of our society and why they take hold so fast and so firm.
The long March though the institutions as a slogan
And Albert moher and James Lindsay on thinking in public
All add to this.
Thanks for this and may the lord bless your day
I'm glad I found this video. A lot of good points were made. I was the type of person who was planning on running away from the city. As much as I prefer an urban lifestyle, the battle is to be fought in the cities.
2:37 "Guys don't worry I'm totally not critiquing libertarianism in terms of the role of government."
[Proceeds to critique libertarianism in terms of the role of government]
So, I'm a libertarian (when it comes to the role of government) and I think there's something that you need to understand. You can't just ban everything you don't like. Stealing is not illegal because stealing is immoral, stealing is illegal because it violates others' right to private property. The way I see it, as long as you're not hurting anybody or taking people's stuff, you should be allowed to do whatever you want, regardless of whether or not I agree with it, especially since banning victimless crimes, such as prostitution or drug use, on moral grounds has historically had disastrous consequences. Look at Prohibition. The federal government banned alcohol in 1920 with the justification that alcohol promoted immoral behavior such as drunkenness and violence. The problem is that a law banning alcohol doesn't change the fact that there remains a market demand for alcohol. If alcohol is illegal, instead of being able to buy it safely from reputable business who operate within the bounds of the law, people who want alcohol go blind from drinking illegal moonshine made in someone's bathtub by gangsters who are able to maintain monopolies through the barrel of a Tommy gun. Banning alcohol didn't stop people from drinking, it just worsened the quality of the product and led to the rise of powerful organized crime rings. The War on Drugs and the criminalization of prostitution have borne similar results. Banning recreational drugs has given a monopoly on the drug trade to ruthless cartels who skin people alive and has resulted in unsuspecting victims overdosing on laxatives laced with fentanyl disguised cocaine because reputable entrepreneurs who abide by the Pure Food and Drug Act and laws against skinning people alive are not able to operate legal cocaine dispensaries. Banning prostitution has resulted in sex trafficking rings offering disgusting sex with unconsenting minors riddled with venereal disease. In Nevada, where prostitution is legal, brothels operated by law-abiding business owners offer sex with enthusiastically consenting adults who are legally required to use protection and regularly get tested for STDs. In short, banning victimless crimes on moral grounds has done nothing to prevent immoral behavior and has only resulted more people getting hurt and the services that would normally have been provided legally in a competitive free market being offered at a much lower quality by monopolies with no incentive to improve. Let's just let the free market provide what consumers are demanding. Interfering in the economy in order to punish behavior that the state disagrees with is a leftist tactic. Using leftist tactics to promote conservative ideas is completely contradictory and counterproductive. But what does the Bible say about all this? This is a Christian channel after all. Tell me, when Jesus encountered prostitutes, did he say that they should be thrown in jail? No, instead he preached to them and convinced them to leave their life of sin without the use of force (John 8:3-11, Matthew 9:10-12, Mark 2:15-17, Luke 5:29-31). Thus, we should do the same.
Also 3:35 "Republicans tend to only focus on economic issues" lol, I wish.
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To say government banning stuff is a complete dead end is well too much of a a statement of impossibility it is certainly very probable a government can legislate these things like in singapore it has to do with the landmass distribution to control of territory and other factors like that isn't just this thing has completely non-work doesn't work always not work. Even in the cases like Portugal they didn't completely just say hey you can do drugs now they completely restricted it force people into rehabilitation and still cracked on on drug dealers the reason America was really fucked by drug dealers it's because of its large landmass a general poor neighborhood of countries it's next to and it's inability to really control them you have an American centric viewpoint of a world what works in other nations oftentimes does not work in others what works in El Salvador doesn't work in Mexico because the complex factors that make up a nation if you were to argue that libertarian is a moral system I would have to sort of agree with you but to say that banning stuff doesn't work is a misnomer
oh well I guess I like libertarianism now
The reason I’m against legislating certain morality is because we live in a secular country that has a constitution. We can’t circumvent the constitution. And we can’t have the basis for our secular laws be based solely in Christian theology as we live in a secular country. You can’t quote Bible verses to Congress to get them to legislate morality, you have to use analyzable consequences.
Well I think we can legislate morality without appealing to any specific religious text. For instance, we can make a purely scientific/philosophical case against abortion and same sex marriage
@@redeemedzoomer6053 I can definitely see one for abortion, but I also thing we should do it the right way, if we want to get rid of abortion, we should do it through the constitutional process. I just don’t see how we would do it with same sex marriage, as we don’t actually have any long term examples of consequences of same sex marriage
This is ridiculous. Leftists actually have nothing against legislating certain religious morality (“helping the poor is what Jesus would want” is something you often hear leftists say in order to convince people to pass laws to help the poor). But when you try to legislate other moralities that are also biblical but which they don’t happen to approve of (like marriage being between a man and a woman as the bible makes clear) then leftists immediately accuse you of legislating religious morality.
It’s a very smart leftist tactic. The morality you want to legislate (but which they don’t like) they attempt to deem as “religious” to prevent you from legislating it, but they themselves would have no problem appealing to Jesus to convince people about the morality of passing laws that help the poor.
@@nerdtalk1789 the legallization case for abortion is the same as for drugs: "drug war" was never an effective way to mitigate the impact of consumption and trafficking and so on of drugs in society. Yes, drugs are bad, but the way to minimize their effects on society is to have the state run the fabrication and commodification and everything else. Same is true for abortion: the rates of abortion pre-legalization and post-legalization in most countries who legalize it don't go up, the difference is that the people who do it are under better care. Everyone knows that abortions are not encouraged like a stroll in the park in a sunday afternoon, but if people do it anyways, they might as well do it safely. That's how I view it.
@@umrapazai7484 people aren’t against abortion, the same way, they’re against drugs, because abortion takes away a human life, it is murder. We shouldn’t legalize murder, because people will just do it anyway, so we might as well just make it safer for people to do. It’s not like a drug abuse problem. Every abortion ends in killing a human life. Even if people do it, it should still be made illegal, federally
"Conservatives are too nice."
Yeah, that's the problem... Donald Trump is too nice.
his heart is in the right place, but if you want to keep a white collar job in a corpo (and if you havent retreat from UNI yet , a corpo is the place where you will want to be employed in), do the exact opposite of whatever he is saying. you will need to camouflage to survive and maintain civili relationship with coworkers. if your coworkers start to dislike you, especially your manager, you will never advance in the hierarchy and never succeed. consider yourself fired in slow-motion.
You cannot serve both God and money.
It is written.
@@j.desoto5870 i want to eat.
"The wicked flee when no one pursues, but the righteous are bold as a lion." Proverbs 28:1
My Mom's go too strategy is to tell me too be quiet about this stuff, than stick her head in the ground and hope the Lions don't get her.
Most Conservatives I come across either sit curled up in a corner, put their heads in the sand, or runaway, and than they shame the people close to them when said people try to stand up and do the right thing.
There's this one nation stimulator game I play called Nationstates that's pretty heavily dominated by Leftists that I've been trying to fight, and I've been called a Fascist both since I'm not a Communist (anyone right of Marx = Fascist to them), and because I've worked with Fascists before since the Libertarians are non-existent and the Conservatives are absolutely fricken useless!
Honestly in terms of stats, if a Second Civil War broke out the Right could crush the Left pretty handily. But in terms of mindset, the Right doesn't stand a chance against the Left at the moment.
Maybe the Right deserves to be defeated and loose it's freedoms if it isn't going to step up and do what's needed to defend it's freedom and honor the sacrifices of those who have gone before to establish and defend this freedom that we cherish so much.
You don't defend freedom by curtailing freedom
@@crystalvulpine2314 Likewise by doing nothing, and become unworthy to keep it.
@@rostdreadnorramus4936 It's better than *helping* the enemy. There's nothing we *can* do because 99% of the country is now convinced we need a brutal authoritarian regime, and they don't take anyone who disagrees with that seriously.
On point 2, running away is by far the more damaging option, that needs to be really forced into people's understanding, and a successful combat of theological liberalism actually shows that. The Seminex controversy in the LCMS saw them taking back one of their seminaries from teachings of a modernist view of the bible, stopping people who then broke from the seminary to found Seminex from preaching, and the theological liberals ran away, with a lot smaller of a number then they thought they'd have. This is how the Methodist church should have acted, given they, like the LCMS, had the majority during the incident. Now, instead of losing a small fraction of churches from putting their foot down on places in violation, they ran away and ceded even more churches in the process.
This is really important stuff. And these ideas need to be spread more! If everyone that likes this video ends up making their own video repeating all of the things in this one then it could get a lot of outreach!
Yeah, the libertarian mindset has been like an addiction for me in the past. But now I realize it's just a cop out for me to not actually think.
This is partially why nowadays I think Centrists are kinda cringe. Especially people who are center just for the sake of being center. The truth isn't arbitrarily in the center. That's a very teenage kinda mindset. Young teenagers who only got into politics will think this way, "both sides are bad" (even though most of the time they don't even represent the conservatives/right side correctly, they just strawman and use Hitler as the "right" which is totally intellectually illiterate).
That sounds like a rather shallow "libertarianism". If it's just a centrist "both sides are bad", sure, that's a cop out. A proper libertarian mindset is nothing like that.
I am being called to say something, and I hope there are many people here who want to listen. Although I phrase towards Redeemed Zoomer, I always enjoy a thoughtful discussion with anyone.
Although I can very much respect what you're doing here, there is something underlying that becomes an itch in my mind. Watching a few of your videos, I find some laughs, and some very reasonable perspectives. Noticing that this video shares the same vernacular of past ones where you wish to retake the church, I can't help but feel the same aura of those who called to crusade and take back Jerusalem as the Holy Land, and realization starts to form.
6:24 7:27 This example helped give me something to work with that I hadn't had the ability to phrase before. I'm starting to feel like the phrase "take back the church", especially in the context of conversation you've chosen is missing something important.
For all my life, I have been one of the oddballs in my community, even in churches. As I grew, I wanted to truly understand more, whether it be within me or outside of me. In the mix that life is, it wasn't exactly pleasant to come to the realization that the majority of people I interacted with had little-to-no care for who I am or what I find interesting. This stings, especially, when the people in a church are constantly talking about community, love, wisdom, and responsibility. The truth is that there is a venom hidden within the human condition, no matter what your philosophy is. That venom is superficiality, otherwise known as apathy or laziness.
The more I've grown, the more I've become familiar with it. The greatest examples were slightly mentioned in your History of Christianity video, with Jesus' mission being easily misinterpreted by people who wished for him to conquer the very tangible Roman Empire instead of seeing that he was freeing them from the slavery within their hearts; even more so emphasized by the fact that Jesus had come at a time where the Jews were not in literal slavery, but social slavery where they bent and broke their own good potential to bargain their meager impulses from the largest human construction the world had ever known. And after Christ ascended, superficiality was continued by the perceived certainty that the Roman mess was surely the end times, and things like the crusades that were certain in saving a specific piece of tangible earth being a God ordained destiny.
The tragedy is the human choice to so clearly abandon the chance of reflecting just a bit more to open up to that truth that God sees INTO you, and does not give you quick answers for your earthly cares.
Back to 6:24
What strikes me here is not your focus on a general mechanism of retreating, but instead, asking why that is the case.
It doesn't take long to peel back what's to blame. It's the same thing I've struggled against my whole life, to see people resign themselves to be blown away by the wind of their comfort zone. People do all sorts of things because they aren't comfortable. Even when people aren't explicitly uncomfortable, something foreign to their experience can be far too confusing to authentically engage in, unless they are the type of person who naturally wants to explore that unknown.
The people in your given example had a specific motive in their hearts. Although they had won a vote within that communal body, they were like so many other people in the world, that they didn't wish to exist in something where they might have to make concerted effort to consider what to do. Consideration takes time, and can be uncomfortable, because God has told us that very thing about doing something right in the eyes of God, and how it either turns a house against each other, or catches their attention and rouses curiosity.
The people in that church who retreated, in their hearts, were so disgusted by things they found uncomfortable, that they took the easy way out. The church I currently attend has a slightly different version of this apathy, as people sit in their chairs on Sunday, saying what they think is the right thing when they're socially expected to provide feedback, but otherwise sit and stare in their passively comfortable spectacle of rinsing and repeating a reliable schedule. There's potlucks, and cake, and all the fun little activities you can think of, but the clock is ticking and you won't ever find the majority going into longform discussion about God's word while being vulnerable in how God is shaping them through their individual testimony.
That's the thing. Vulnerability.
Beyond any narrative a person gives behind what they don't like and why they're doing something, the answer is that they're afraid to think of what will happen after they put themselves out in the open of stating who they really are and how they really feel. There isn't even a beginning of a hope to motivate being vulnerable there; even in a simple exchange of words.
I use this illustration to show WHY people are running away, instead of just addressing the symptom that "conservatives have a problem of running away"-- actually going into the heart of why the problem exists. In this way, assuming the term "Christian" means "everyone who goes to church has the same understanding and connection with God" limits the ability to see these kinds of problems. I believe that you should move beyond slogans and describe the direction and tools God gave us to know the detail of what things are, why they function in that way, and articulate what the good potential is that we should chase. Here are some thoughts about what I've experienced that have repeatedly emphasized themselves as being from the wisdom of God, beyond any of our mundane thoughts.
I'm thankful that the Lord has been letting me reflect on things I've been seeing, like what true kindness means. It's like how the modern world bastardizes the term "love" by trying to make it synonymous with unrelenting acceptance for everything and anything. True care also means that you want someone to avoid harm and negatively impacting others around them. It's the same reason why we want our friends and family to regularly bathe; it's best for their health, it's best for the people around them, and when it's properly understood it shows that they are mature enough to move beyond their impulsively prideful judgements on what they want in the matter.
There's a book called Tactics by Greg Koukl: it has been one of the more influential studies in my mind of how to speak with anyone about a belief they hold. The greatest truth within it is something the author doesn't necessarily recognize in an articulated way: the true way to disarm someone and have a truly productive and vulnerable connection with someone is to be kind in having the most authentic curiosity in getting to know what they believe and the reasons they believe it. This also means that with the amazingly complex individuality we all have within The Body of Christ, one person may not be the exact person to help another break through their prideful understandings, but they can help plant a good seed in their minds. That is true kindness, that is true love, and it can be painfully clear in ability to be articulated.
This is why, when you kept voicing this idea of retaking the church, but merely saying the abstracted phrases of "retake institutions", "be as bold as them while not being sinful", and "show people how Christianity can improve society" is not enough to illustrate. I felt disappointed that you didn't take time to reveal the grounded tools of how to do that. Answers are abound, just as much as God is present in every moment.
One thought I did find right is thinking of the duality of Conservatism and Progressivism, and where that is true within God's plan.
What is a true progressive Christianity, if the opposite of that is conservatism that veers towards stagnation? It is truly allowing God's word to pierce and overwhelm the vulnerable truth about who you are, how you've sinned, and the potential of who you can become because of God's love and strength. It's also the fulfillment of reaching out to others in that same sacrifice of personal comfort.
What is The Great Commission about? That same kind of vulnerability in getting to know someone and walk with them as Jesus walked with the disciples. Only through that discernment, responsibility, accountability, and loving motivation can anyone hope to make disciples and build a true community.
I am still trying to find ways to break through with the people around me. I am forever thanking God that I have found at least one soul who wishes to be in my presence and share these hopes with me. I pray that we can all be more brave in facing these parts of ourselves, bringing our daily worries to God, and also making the bold request that God continually puts his wisdom within our thoughts instead of thinking of 'waiting on the Lord' as a passive state.
Excellent comment thank you. To use a colloquialism, based. :)) go well
@@elijahtaylor4698 I'm glad you read it. :)
I find it to be a little disappointing that my hard-worked thoughts go mostly unnoticed, so I want you to know that I really appreciate that you took the time to read it. Godspeed to you, friend. :)
I’m not conservative, I am reactionary.
Hey man, love your content, fellow brother in Christ here. Will you make comments about the target debacle or gonna stay at the margin of that? Just a question, I see conservative commentators talking about it, but what should we do as Christians?
These are great points. You’re always right on the mark.
That cave ambience at 12:35 was OMINOUSLY well placed with his point about evil
How can you change the culture and not be afraid when using the "wrong" pronoun can get you fired? I hear what you are saying, and I agree, but some of us are simply too vulnerable.
Best video I've seen all year. Brought me to tears.
Conservatives when you ask them to conserve anything other than the economy (they can’t even do that right)😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Leftists when you ask them to left anything
Lol yep. We're working on it.
I really like your channel because you actually propose solutions to problems
I have a possible video topic- I see two schools of thought emerging in the online right- Christian (represented by most mainstream conservatives and a few radicals like Fuentes) and Nietzschean (represented by BAP and his disciples). Infighting between the two seems to make up a fair amount of discourse. I would love to see a video analyzing this struggle, and your opinions on how/whether Nietzscheans and Christians can ever form a unified front against the left.
What does BAP stand for?
youve been making so many more videos lately and i love it
I think I consider myself a pro-life libertarian politically but a conservative Christian culturally. I do not want the government controlling people any more than absolutely necessary to preserve the basic rights like life, but I’m not okay with an agnostic shrugging of the shoulders when it comes to cultural issues. We should be leading the fight rather than retreating.
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When did Jesus ever command us to fight for control of the culture?
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In the same place where he said that transgenderism is immoral.
Which is to say nowhere.
Or everywhere.
Depending on how wooden you read the Bible.
The principle of transgerism being immoral is clear though what the Bible says about the separation of the sexes. It’s an inescapable conclusion of what the scripture teaches even if it’s not explicitly taught in those terms.
Similarly, the Bible teaches about morality and justice, and Biblical morality and justice will inevitably reflect on how we interact with culture. Do we go with the secularist flow or do we challenge immorality and injustice and seek to do good in the world? If you believe in the latter, then you believe in what I’m describing as leading the fight on cultural issues. Take a stand.
But if your point is that Jesus did not specially say, “Fight the culture war!” a phrase that would not be invented for another couple thousand years, then I guess you’ve got me there.
@@boringbiblestudy1813 But Jesus did not attack his enemies, he loved them. Going on a crusade like this is not Christ-like, it's rooted in pride and hatred.
@@boringbiblestudy1813 And the fact is we will never win in this world, so trying to take over everything is not only immoral and hypocritical, but also impossible. Unless, of course, we become worldly enough to make it possible. Be very careful not to make compromises with evil for the sake of winning.
Great observations and comments. What was it that made you come out of liberalism?
He met christians in real life for the first time, he has a video on that
I am a big fan of Operation Reconquista and your attempts to revivify historic Protestant Theology. I have had a similar journey myself in terms of moving from evangelicalism to historic Protestant Christianity, specifically Confessional Lutheranism (thanks in large part to Dr. Jordan B Cooper).
However, there are some points that I take some issue with. Fundamentally, liberals and conservatives, progressives and traditionalists, whatever you want to call them, function differently when it comes to controlling institutions. You have made the point before that the progressives won the institutions because they were patient. There is truth to this. But a major way that the more progressive side won was via deceit. They play power politics within institutions and masque their true intentions because if they didn't they may very well be removed before they can co-opt it. They promote freedom and tolerance of different views until they reach a critical mass within an institution to become definitively malignant. I have watched conservatives and traditionalists attempt to play the game of a reverse long march through the institutions or a reverse Gramscianism. Indeed, I have been involved in institutional efforts like this myself, with middling success. On these efforts I can only hope that those who follow in my footsteps in those institutions continue on a similar course of change to mine. There is also the fact that the concentrated cultural miasma of institutions is much better at changing you than you are at changing it. Look at politicians who go off to Washington DC to enact radical change. In a few years they are usually participating in the very policies they set out to destroy. The fact is, much of the time we simply aren't able to operate in the same way because it violates our moral axioms in ways that it doesn't violate those of a progressive, and because we are ourselves very vulnerable to change from our environment. Conservative change tends to happen in short, organized bursts, at very opportune times. I think this is well attested to in history, especially as examined in the writings of the Italian Elite Theorists, particularly channeled through the modern day thinker Curtis Yarvin. In short, it isn't that conservatives are always cowardly, or simply aren't trusting God enough (though both are often the case), but that there are often genuine realities that make it impossible to play the same game as their opponents, let alone achieve the same results. We do need to remember that the Lord is on our side and that he has the power to grant us success in these endeavors, but we should also recognize that he may not shield us from the power of our progressive enemies and grant us the success against them in the ways that we want. You do have a fine point in that as the mainline dwindles in numbers, we can sort of swoop in and take positions, as long as we aren't removed by force.
None of this is meant to be overly critical. I love the work you are doing overall and try to pray daily for your continued success in serving the Lord. As a Zoomer myself, your work to reach our particularly lost and depraved generation is truly a Godsend, and is something I hope I can dedicate much of my life to as well. I, like you also want to do everything I can to promote historic Christianity, specifically historic Protestantism, because I think the ancient faith with its timeless truths, is exactly what we need, with its objective beauty and strong emphasis on God's great gifts to us in the Sacraments. I am also very glad that you recognize the importance of beauty and culture. I hope that I can work alongside you on this, one way or another in my own area of Christ's Church.
God bless you, keep up the good work.
I really have to disagree with your libertarian assessment…I feel maybe there is a misunderstanding of being socially liberal legally. Or maybe I’m misunderstanding you. You said libertarian mindset, but then you kind of started talked about laws and legalization so if I misunderstood you I’m sorry
The issue with laws that govern individuals socially is that they tend to be great when your team is in power, but in a democracy, the other team can get voted in and start using those precedents to harm your social values.
In libertarianism, I can be against a social issue, and protest it, and educate people, have conversations, and change minds, instead of having the government force people with legal consequence to behave in a way they don’t understand or agree with. No matter the issue, when you force someone to act or believe in something they don’t understand, you open the door for resentment and rebellion.
Libertarianism in many way motivated the Protestant movement, that’s why so many came to America to have religious freedom, to practice what they believe.
I think the libertarian time in the USA is coming to an end. It is now too densely populated and interconnected to allow people to live however they choose. It's not the 1800s anymore. Most people are squeezed into a sub-urban prison. If they want to change anything they have to deal with home owners associations, local governments and possibly banks.
@@Sunlight91 I am not sure I understand your point…lots of places in the US are not urban, I live in the Central Valley of California and there are plenty of rural towns….also population growth in the us has massively slowed down in recent years, and I’m not sure what any of this has to do with legislating social values with legal consequences
@@Sunlight91 Now take those words you said, and imagine them being said by liberals. What would be your response?
@@johnlong9786 For me it is more an academic observation instead of a personal one because I don't live in the USA. The only place a liberal could tell me this is online. Then I would agree on the premise and tell them to stay away from the remaining conservative (and white) communities. These are my backup plan if continental Europe doesn't work out for me. England is being converted into a third-world shit-hole at rapid pace. The bigger cities look like a South-Asia-Africa. The local and young age demographic is completely different from the national average.
@@Sunlight91 why should people stay away from white communities?
The point about the running away is so true...
Hey zoomer, I love your content. I regularly listen to you in the background at work. Great video.
My only pushback is the idea of legislating morality. I think we need to differentiate God's law from man's law. God's law dictates what we find "moral" (morality in this sense is what leads us towards, or away from God). Man's law is supposed to dictate what is productive for society and humanity.
Alot (Possibly most) of the time, what society views as productive for humanity follows God's law as well (easy one of note is don't kill). We need to be very careful what we say the purpose of man's law is. In recent history, society has started to conflate man's law with morality. This is very dangerous because man's law changes frequently. The human sense of morality should never be dictated by what a government tells them is moral. For a Christian, we recognize that God's law trumps all other law, but for nonbelievers, we can't let a governmental body dictate what is or isn't morally correct.
Thanks for the content
Love the video. I do think outside forces are also negatively influcing this debate.
Solid video, I really liked the conclusion, but there are some nuances I'd like to comment on.
First, I'm rather concerned about your generalization of "the left". I'm worried that painting a picture of "the left" that is only a single narrative could lead to being grounds for hate.
I'm also concerned about how you passively equated liberalism with leftism, and conservatism with Christianity. Leftism is about economics, and is characterized by the abolition of private property (destruction of capitalism), whereas liberalism sees capitalism as the be all and end all of economics, and tries to create social change under capitalism. I'm worried that tying conservatism, with all of its connotations, to Christianity will deter people seeking God that don't agree with conservative theory.
Oh! One more thing: I noticed a lot of "us vs. them" mentality which is just grounds for polarization and misunderstanding.
Redeemed Zoomer, I got into reading the bible because of you, starting with the NT. I'm very interested in it and want to believe, but I find it very boring to get through, are there any tips you could provide that could help me read it, thanks :)
worship music, audiobook of the bible, prayer, listening to instrumental soundtracks to help you read, more time outside to help with attention span, reading the bible more picking a simpler translation
Can anyone help me with joining the server, please? The server says the player count is full capacity, when it isnt.
That is such an excellent word for today!! And I don’t really hear anyone else saying it!
Your three points are spot on.
However, I believe you missed a very important truth in your solution section:
Politics has always been "help your friends, and hurt your enemies."
But Jesus said to help your friends AND your enemies
@crystalvulpine2314 That is true, more nuanced than that, but true.
Justice and mercy coincide.
There's a reason Jesus hasn't been in our politics for decades. He's "incompatible" with American politics.
Or rather, the truth of it; American politics is incompatible with Jesus.
Culture does not diffuse from cities anymore. Rural areas actively reject urban influence these days. It’s not 1843, we know what’s happening, and in states dominated by rural areas, it’s the rural people who have the influence. I live in Iowa, and nobody has more power than the farmers, nobody. There is no corporation, person, or socialite in Des Moines that has the power, it’s the rural people. Again, a person from a city who does not understand how rural life works. We actively reject urban influence. That means movies, TV, social media, infrastructure (which we never wanted in the first place), and politics are all viewed with extreme caution and hesitancy.
Also saying “send your kids to college” is a good thing is just like evil, dude. Sure YOU made it, but on a large scale, children cannot stand against the tide of the culture around them. College is a tough one. Yes we should have the institutions, but we shouldn’t just sacrifice kids to do that, because that’s what’s happening.
@@calebneff5777 this "redeemed zoomer" is a wolf in sheep's clothing, methinks.
I agree you shouldn't be using elementary schoolers as little missionaries, but we need educated Christians to take back the institutions and that can't happen if they don't go to college
@@floridaman318 No, he's good, he's just young and gung-ho enough to not see the faults in his mission. I think greater and more diverse personal interactions with more Christians will help him understand in time. He's still in college, so there's still a certain degree of tolerable knowitallism left. I remember being 21 and on fire for the Lord and truly believing I had all the answers to Christianity's problems. Redeemed Zoomer is there, and he does have good ideas.
The "libertarian mindset" is not about "impacting" other people, because as you said, everything impacts people. That's just super broad. It's about not physically harming other people. The non-aggression principle and private property rights are crucial for libertarianism to actually operate. Don't hurt people, don't take their property. Without both of these, you're just a pacifist. When I hear arguments like "the 'live and let live' people have ruined this country" I believe it is entirely false and is based on the assumption that libertarianism has already had such a drastic change in the culture. That's just not the case. It is more evident that the majority of people have at least some level of controlling tendencies. They wish to impose their will onto others, up to and including the use of force. Libertarians have held virtually ZERO institutional power since the party was founded. Don't blame the shortcomings and failures of the 2 party system on those who aren't even part of it. This is evident by the "we want limited government" stuff the GOP says, except the government has NEVER decreased in size while they're in power.
Just like communism libertarianism has never been tried and I don't mean this in a positive way that means we have lived in a liberal state and I don't mean naughty modern term liberal the genuine classical liberal in the ideological sense libertarianism is much like communism it is a very good paper ideology
Groypers are the solution to the Conservative Problem!
Great vid… I’m always supportive of random shot at the French
I respect the wisdom of some of the things in this video, especially your ending on how "conservatives" can win by acknowledging what we are all actually pursuing. But I will have to disagree with the premise, and I think this last point kind of discounts a lot of your earlier points.
You start by saying this is not about political left and right but hardly keep yourself from going there anyway. I think it is folly to paint that line in the sand between left and right to begin with, or with "liberals" and "conservatives". Doing so turns it into an Us vs Them and fans the flames of this "culture war" (which I'm dubious on already). I think you should adopt the idea you mention at the end of the video to your perspective on the earlier points; leftists are not aggressively pursuing power and dominance over society. Greedy, sinful people are, and many happen to have found that movements around more liberal ideas are a great vehicle to achieve this. Much like some greedy, sinful people have found conservative ideas as a good way to achieve power in the past and in modern day. Even within the Church! Not everyone who wants gay marriage or to change their gender to a goat is selfishly seeking power over Christians. They may be confused, they may not have honestly thought about opposing views, or it may be a genuine act of kindness for the mislead people in their life. Leftists are not irredeemable monsters as you yourself can attest, they simply have been submerged in a different way of thinking. One that has, unfortunately, been corrupted in some ways by sin.
I think a lot of the way our message is communicated...needs some work. When the face of Christianity is not the loving, forgiving, wonderful face of Jesus but instead the hateful and stern face of bottled up discontent from church communities who have fled from the threat of being "cancelled", no wonder we're losing! If the threat of losing Twitter followers is enough to make you stop witnessing though, you need to have a good long talk with the Spirit about your priorities though. If your friends and people you are close to would abandon you or hate you for speaking your beliefs, maybe you need to consider why you've surrounded yourself in hate.
My opinion is this. God is not so weak as to need us to police the actions of others. Any who think that they MUST impose religiosity over the government, over politics, over culture, is calling God weak and his Church weak. If the Church is weak, strengthen the Church. Not through hate and exclusion, but by rigorous faith, discussion, and community. Which is greater, the church in rural Montana that doesn't have blue hair anywhere in the county, hasn't had to ever flex their spiritual muscles? Or the church in downtown Portland that weathers the storm and keeps their beliefs strong despite the opposition? God does not call upon us to "win the culture war". If you act to prevent others from doing things, act to change or preserve the culture of our society, how are you different from the liberals trying to change the culture to something YOU don't like? Instead of drawing a line between cultures, between factions, recognize that we are all brothers and sisters of Christ. There is no line between conservative and liberal, there is a line between sin and God, and NO they are not the same line. So welcome them to debate, welcome thoughtful and kind discussion. Don't fight them to impose our cultural ideals onto them unwillingly, invite them to our side and have them WANT to live that way. Show them where the line between sin and God is, and then let the Spirit (maybe through you) bring them to care about being on the right side of that line.
That's all very idealist but I think it is better than silly, unnecessarily political labels. And, a word about cancelling: it's not real. If losing a lot of twitter followers is enough to keep you from speaking your beliefs, you need to have a good long talk with the Spirit. If speaking your beliefs would make you lose friends and loved ones, maybe you need to ask yourself why you are surrounded by hatred and people who would act that way. If speaking your beliefs in public, in person, causes you to be persecuted, hated, opposed, etc. than congrats. That's exactly what Jesus said would happen in the sermon on the mount, among other places. You're doing it right.
as a libertarian yeah i agree that's why i wasn't libertarian till i wread hoppe, who is a libertarian but advocates for more conservative societies that while lacking centralized authority operate based on private law and outside of that natural rights are the norm quite often private law and natural rights will overlap, natural laws like stealing is bad, murder is bad not completing what you promised to (being against contractualism) is bad
Natural law is survival of the fittest, the exact opposite of God's law
I recommend the song 'down in flames' by Relient K
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The vision needs to be via media. Media that inspires, educates, and stands firmly on God's principles and is cool. A media company that can provide quality entrainment, honest journalism, and highlights ways believers can/are/will come together. Otherwise it just ends up turning into complaining and finger pointing
Yes! I struggle to be assertive. I appreciate these tips.
I'm moving to a City of 3,000 people in a rural area but will be working in a Major city, am I sufficiently centrist for you?
dude, you're amazing, i love what God is doing through you
I agree with you on the running away, and I think that's why I didn't feel a pull to go to a Christian university for college. If we all go to Christian schools, who's going to evangelize to the masses? Of course, for those who cannot withstand it they probably should go to Christian schools, but for those of us who can withstand leftism we should hold fast.
It’s more than just evangelizing individuals. It’s about institutional influence
@@redeemedzoomer6053 Yes I agree. Christians being involved in the school and in its core is important. Luckily at my university, the SGA president is openly Christian at our very secular school.
@@redeemedzoomer6053 I would like you to point out one, just one passage in the Bible where Jesus prioritized institutional influence over evangelizing individuals. Just one.
@@umrapazai7484 Wasn't His entire message about the KINGDOM of God? Kingdom implies collective, not individual
@@redeemedzoomer6053 a Kingdom NOT OF THIS WORLD, a spiritual Kingdom. Churches, univerisities and earthly institutions are not part of His Kingdom, only people, and institutions are what you misguidedly focus on when it comes to your reconquista.
Jesus did not entrust His power to institutions, He ALWAYS focused ONLY on people. You will never find otherwise in the Bible. You can justify yourself all you want, though.
Honestly, my main question about this is how will we win over any people if we attempt to push things that could only be legislated based on their effect on the culture? In the current state of the USA, we would quite simply be scoffed at for such "strong" beliefs. Wouldn't it be better to try to make small changes while we can, and leave the larger changes for when Conservatism has a larger hold?
There is a christian and secular explanation for why we need bold strong beliefs.
Christian: He (G-d) has commanded us to take up our cross, and we will be rewarded for any injury and mocery we bear on HIS behalf. Also as in psalms HE will make our ways straight. WE can move mountains with faith.
Secular: Wether the American revolution, the commies, or the Austrian mustach man. All these movements started as small and fringe. They gain a strong following when ideologically consistent and submitted as a radical answer to a problem.
Freedomtoons has a video called "Republicans in 5 years" that highlights the dangers compromising beliefs and integrity for acceptance.
As a former United Methodist, I can tell you personally what a shame it was to have to vote for leaving your own house. Also I believe that instead of focusing on "Apologetics" against the secular world, we need to focus on presenting living Christian Values that should dominate one's worldview; Justice, Mercy, Love.
15:40 Chesterton : "this world is made of christian ideas that have gone mad"
1. No backbone.
2. No backbone.
3. Lack of backbone.
"Gird up thy loins like a man."
I think the point about conservatives fleeing is very accurate and we need to change that
Nothing more to add, just a BASED video. Keep up the good work.
Is it not possible to join the server with the mobile version?
I have been purged from my friend group and they do not want me to say anything about the truth.
U make a perfect case why I’m not a conservative or leftist
I’m an anarcho capitalist through and through
Only the free market can conserve libertine values and conservative values at the same time
You should make a colab video with Monsieur Z on the urban rural divide and the culture war in the United States. You believe the cities can be retaken by conservatives, while he thinks that cities will always be liberal. Even though you two don’t make the same type of content, it would still be very interesting to see a discussion about those issues.
As a believer who did grow up in south-central Arkansas (beautiful state) it is already really liberal, I am 21!
5:17 I know the exact Stonetoss comic you're referring to.
Silence is consent.
I'm moving into a rural city while understanding that the major cities are important, some Christians need to be there and make it better
No the major cities are not important. They are a cancer and a liability. The people that move to them have only one thing on their mind: money. If the system destabilizes enough all the major cities would become graveyards real quick. Let the cities fall, let new ones grow to replace them.
Do you have any examples of christian ethics we could advocate for in legislation. I think we could win the culture on things like sex change operations for children and abortion to a certain extent, but I'm not sure how we could argue for restrictions on things for adults such as weed. When it comes to things adults do it's easier to argue for freedom rather than restriction since our society starts from a foundational idea of individual liberty.
Thanks fam we got a ex-liberal to explain how 2 win we’re gonna converting with this vid🔥🔥🔥
This was incredible and inspiring. God bless!
Dear Redeemed Zomer, do you go to Irvington Presbyterian Church in NYC?
@@redeemedzoomer6053 I found it on your channel banner
@@redeemedzoomer6053 I feel cool now
Hey, a leftie atheist here, I like to watch your content sometimes to get a view on other people's mindsets and I would love to have a chat with you. If you have a discord server or something like that we could have a debate and that could be fun content too. Take care
I'm in the same boat too. I've been listening to lots of Bart Ehrman and learning about textual criticism, so it's interesting to see such an opposite viewpoint. A properly moderated debate would be really fun to listen to
Thanks for putting so eloquently why exactly libertarians do my head in so badly
“Conservatives can never stop anything they can only slow” 👌 10/10