Prosecutor Details Charges Against Parents of Michigan School Shooting Suspect
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- Michigan prosecutor Karen McDonald announced that the parents of the suspect involved in the Michigan school shooting are charged with multiple counts of involuntary manslaughter.» Subscribe to NBC News: nbcnews.to/SubscribeToNBC
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Prosecutor Details Charges Against Parents of Michigan School Shooting Suspect
Guns. Are. Not. Toys.
They gave a child a lethal weapon. And treated it like something fun to have.
Timmy Simpkins parents weren't charged.
Obvious double standard
they knew their child had issues. So sad😥
😂
The parents didn't give their son a gun.
They just wanted their son to have a blast
The charges against the parents of the shooter were obviously quite appropriate. However, the school authorities bare responsibility as well. they assumably were told by someone about shooter's online plans. They saw the note he wrote. He should have been immediately suspended, if not expelled.
And you hopefully can count on that accountability, after everybody connected with this unfortunate event is lawyered up. This is not going to end well for the school.
The police should have been notified. Suspension, or being expelled does not prevent him from coming back and shooting up.
Someone at the school also needs to be held accountable. Children are suspended for far less. So everyone including the school officials thought it was ok to send him back to class?
How angry and disgusted the parents of the victims must feel.
I’m so sorry for your loss; this did not have to happen.
You need to watch We Need to Talk About Kevin.
These kind of parents are more common than you think. These are the kind of parents that raised Kyle Rittinhouse and others who love to display their guns in public.
@@feonjun
Rittenhouse was of legal age and was a police explorer for yrs. He was asked to help protect a car lot from the mobs because police were busy playing with their riot gear and didn't show up till later.
If he didn't shoot he'd be dead and maniac pedefile would've killed more as he was hi on crack straight out of a mental Ward.
@@feonjun Kyle Rittenhouse didn’t break any laws. This pos did. Don’t compare the two. Try to use reason and logic, just once in your life please
@@feonjun 👍👍
This is why not everyone should be a parent, the warning signs are in your face and you don't want to admit them.
So the school administrators thought it was OK to let that murderer go to class after they were made aware of those drawings and notes. The police should have been called and the kid at minimum removed from the school indefinitely. WTH!!!
Eveyone failed in this case!!
You know who is also negligent? The school! They should have called police and made him go to the hospital for a mental health evaluation and the officer could have searched the kid and found the gun.
Yes. The school in this case were the authorities and leaders, but they gave that away to the parents. 9 times out of 10, if the kid is crazy the parents are too. Don’t give authority to crazy parents.
People involved at the school in this incident such as the principal should be charged too.
Certainly should have in retrospect and they should have done more but given the circumstances and the knowledge the school had at the time. They summoned the parents, if they had been aware or if the parents had told the admin about the social post maybe more drastic steps would have been taken. Definitely should have been sent home I wonder if there was a policy or rule that prevented the school from doing that.
They should of suspended him immediately. And forced him to go home. Those were threats. It definitely should of been handled more seriously.
@@RedDragon-og8wn people get suspended for fighting and sent home. The drawing was a threat and a cry for help. I don't get the whole thing. If I am feeling the way that kid was I would never harm others. I would harm myself before that but I wouldn't do either to be clear.
They were irresposible as a parent and as a gun owner. Charges are more than Justified for their actions and lack there of.
I’m very happy to hear that these irresponsible parents are being held accountable.
I am as well. But I think that the school should be held accountable as well. They knew this boy had serious issues, was a threat to the other students, and they sent him to class anyway. This is unfortunately another case where people in a position of authority knowing of a potential problem but doing nothing about it. This very exact scenario, almost to the T, has been played out before. Why is it we don't learn from our mistakes.
And it sounds as if they may have skipped town.
Absolutely!
@@briancordova1299 They did
and now the parents are on the run!
I just don’t understand how no one checked his backpack or him after seeing that picture HOW???
oh trust me that school is going to be punished bad. They did not take the signs seriously enough. The parents KNEW their son was capable of this crime.
Maybe it's not that kind of school
I'm thinking that's why the charges were so quickly outed on the parents, because the school would be f'd otherwise.
@@lampoyo oh yea the school is going to do everything they can to put as much blame as possible. But let’s be real the school should have contact police immediately after seeing him search for ammo and drawings about killing. The school has no excuse either
Huge huge mistake by school teachers and officials..kids get suspended for foul language ect but this kid had notes related to death and killing and was not at least suspended...I'm sorry people this school has to be held responsible for these children getting murdered...first being the shooter..the parents and those who had the power and responsibility to protect those kids ..
This is probably the best press conference I've ever heard. So informative. 👏 lots of people appreciate it
May God help the families in their time of pain.
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I’m so glad the parents are being charged, and I hope something can be done about the school as well
I agree why did the school police not search his bag? My school police would search students and that was even back in like the year 2000 before all these shootings occurred. COMPLETE NEGLIGENCE by the school. The school had an opportunity to prevent this as well. If i was a parent that had a dead or injured child i may consider sue the school based off of that evidence
There’s a ton of laws in Michigan about proper firearm storage so they need those added on too
About time to start holding parents responsible when their juveniles do violence with their guns. My condolences to victims' families & friends. So senseless & sad!
Won't solve the problem though, lol. Banning guns will☺
One day the right's going to attack the government, lose, and then playtime with guns is over when the government realizes what a bad idea it was to arm citizens.
@UCqwIqdnW-RhT6aF4MXW2B-w
It did, for the most part.
Facts 🙌🏽💯
@@gabemendoza1052 they should just ban murder all together
"Gun ownership is a right, and with that right comes great responsibilities". American people need to be taught and aware of this. When you own a gun, you should know you own a dangerous asset and you are responsible for handling it well because in a moment it can save or send you or others to the grave unexpectedly.
Yup and people will still throw a fit.
People in your country should be taught this too. Responsible gun owners in America already know this. With 350 million people, there are bound to be some idiots out there.
So you think adults don’t know? They knew, nothing new here, the demographics of mass school & other event shootings has not changed!
The sad part is the irresponsible ones are the gon toters.
I think he could have bought a propane tank and set it on fire and blew half the school up that's just as dangerous.......
All parents should be held responsible for their under age children having weapons, having access to weapons, and using those weapons unlawfully!
Charges should be brought against the school next. They're responsible for the safety of the children. He should've immediately been searched (bag, locker, person) or suspended and dismissed. Extremely negligent. There has to be zero tolerance for this, the fact he was returned to the classroom after all that without being searched is ridiculous, how many more signs did they need!?!?!
But could the school legally do that? It sounded like they wanted the parents to take the kid home and they refused. As far as the school was concerned he had broken no rules warranting a suspension or expulsion.
I agree!! Why in the world was his bag not searched?
I am a teacher, and our duty of care requirements are crystal clear for a case like this. The teacher who saw the ammunitions search on the student's phone did the right thing by immediately reporting it up the chain. It seems this is where the ball was initially dropped. Where it is good that they informed parents, once there was no response, the student should have been suspended until such time as a more focused conversation had taken place with the parents who had chosen to ignore the messages. He never should have been allowed back on the school grounds the next day.
Then a second teacher saw the extremely alarming note. I am assuming from the context that this teacher also reported what was seen to admin. How was the bag not immediately searched right then and there in the counselor's office? Major mistake again. Then it is compounded by the 48 hour time limit the admin gave to the obtuse parents to get their son counseling. Again, he should have been suspended until proof was shown that he was undergoing treatment for a specific period of time, and the parents should have been handed suspension papers right then and there with the conditions outlined. The school giving the parents a 48 hour window to act gave them the impression that they could leave their son at school. Unbelievably terrible decision!
I also cannot believe that he was allowed to return to the classroom after all of this! If the parents refused to take him post haste, call the police and have him removed for trespassing and them as well, at which time his bag gets definitely searched.
This is a no brainer!
@@RedDragon-og8wn why not? He's on school property and posed a safety concern and obviously violated codes of conduct. At the very least they could've asked to see the contents of the bag, locker, and the student. Their was an officer on site, maybe they could've tried to initiate that process. He should've been pressed on whether he had a weapon or not, citing his drawing & internet search as cause for concern. If he refuseed he should've been suspended until a conversation was had with family and student. And if the parents didn't respond to a call from the school then someone from the police department should be calling at that point. Not saying it had to be an officer, most departments have some form of a social worker or similar. I just don't understand how many more red flags they needed to see?? It's ridiculous with the amount of shootings, there needs to be ZERO tolerance for this type of behavior.
@@TheBoardRoom_ too late..more likely the school was more concern for the kids rights not to be accused of doing bad things
Good. People need to be held accountable.
The NRA - and anyone who ever supported those very sick and demented fools.
What's the minimum year count for involuntary manslaughter?
Glad you said this, I'm responsible for, the death of my brother,killed by a drink driver, I bleeding daily by slashing my flesh, also every 12/25, becomes a bloody day since the death of my father dying on that day ,back in 1991, now I continue with my punishment, since being a white man , is a crime according to the leftist media , so come and get me
Facts 💯
@@donaldstrubhar4697 you really sound messed up, and maybe you should try thinking for yourself instead of feeling persecuted because Right Wing media riles you up to feel angry about stuff that in most cases, doesn’t affect your life in any way . Who cares if Left Wing media chooses to speak for the underdog. Nobody is coming at you , or after you because of it. Ask yourself why the culture you support wants you to feel so angry & victimized. It will improve your life to ask these questions. Good luck !
Wow, omg "Lol I'm not mad at you, you have to learn not to get CAUGHT" .... This is horrific, all of this is ok with the parents! My own heart is beating so fast right now, that statement terrifies me. This is our children we are talking about here, real children, human beings, and their OK with this? Dear God help us! Throw the book at these people!!!
For looking at ammunition on line!!!
@@davidsmiths5471 during class? Absolutely wrong! Definitely sends of warning bells
@@juanfigueroa9148 I would have told my kid to pay attention and do your school work!!!
@@marylougeorge9890 any responsible parent would but you knuckleheads who think it's okay for the student to be looking at ammo during school hours
They're incapable of raising a child
Thank you for charging the parents. Holding parents accountable for their minor children's actions is LONG overdue, especially in incidents of the continued school shootings in this country caused by minors with guns.
Maybe if the parents of the "victims" raised their kids not to be bullies they'd still be alive? Maybe we should charge them with manslaughter too.
Mom tells the kid, “You need to learn not to get caught “. I applaud the DA for bringing charges against the parents.
At long last, a prosecutor with guts. And my favorite, a female prosecutor with seemingly fearless guts. We need more, as our children beg for them, especially.
Guts has got nothing to do with it. If there is enough evidence to support a prosecution then one will be brought (unless it's BLM or Antifa rioters/looters, in which case prosecutors don;t lift a finger).. Otherwise the prosecutor is just wasting public money, no matter how "brave" the prosecutor is perceived to be. Case in point .. the prosecution of Kyle Rittenhouse wasn't "brave", it was dumb .. because it was obvious from the copious evidence he would most likely walk. But then prosecutions in America are often politically driven because DA's are elected. Personally, I think it's going to be quite tough making manslaughter stick in this case .. but it depends on exactly how California Law is written.
I like her, she said what needed to be said..A doll and some dishes i was happy with for Christmas..
Looks like the prosecutor will loose this case
if she had guts she would charge the school who placed a kid back in the classroom after drawing that aswell.
@@zx7-rr486 Awe someone sounds salty too bad both parents will be getting charged and so will the little terrorist.
I am so happy with these charges for the parents
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Same here
I'm a Conservative Republican who's for Second Amendment and I agree this should have been a thing parents need to be responsible and and be held accountable these parents did not only failed the kid but they failed their community
olum Turkiye
Same!!!
It's about time the parents are charged also, they are just as bad as their kid! God have mercy on their souls!!
"LOL. I'm not mad at you. You have to learn not to get caught"
The mystery of why the kid was so disturbed deepens 😂😂😂
Speaking as a firearm owner living in a very red state. The burden of responsibility is very high and liability goes a long way when you own a gun. For as long as a gun is legally yours, you will always share some responsibility for how it’s used and by whom, whether you know about it or not.
dont forget to charge the bullies too!!
Facts
@@Jojo.255 NOTHING has been stated about bullies. Obviously, you're assuming something that has not been proven or fact. It still does NOT give anyone the right to murder innocent kids in a school.
@@suzanne9150 if you’re a bully you’re not innocent. What you do to others on a daily,monthly, yearly basis has consequences. Ridiculing someone constantly breaks them mentally. Some were able to overcome these, but many of us suffered negative consequences to this day, because of our bullies.
Scott. You are a responsible gun owner. I can respect that.
what about school officials? They failed to suspend the boy until help was provided. They should have notified social services or something to help the boy. it was obvious on that note that the boy was crying for help. The school needs to be hold accountable too.
But legally could they forced him to go home? It sounds like they wanted the parents to take him home after the meeting, but they wouldn't. I'm sure the school will get sued too. But their degree of responsibility is far less than the parents. The teacher found the note photographed the original one which the student altered. They pulled the parents in and insisted on counseling. The parents should have checked his possessions and where they stored the gun. In Michigan I'm not sure they could expel him over the note since he changed it. Lots of questions that I am sure will be brought up in trial. I for see this case setting some presidence for future gun violence cases involving minors...at least I hope it will force some new rules and regulations being established for Juveniles surrounding guns.
letty Ort, the school instructed parents to get child into counseling w/i 48 hours. Parents must be allowed to take 1st step.
@@jaditelady173mary4 The school wanted the parents to take him with them that morning and they refused. That's when the school should've thrown him out .
@@samuelhowie4543 I think it's illegal to do that. He had not committed any offenses that were suspension worthy.
AGREED!!!!!
This is outrageous. The person who allowed him to remain in the school without help needs to be charged as well. No matter if his parents wanted him there or not , the school should have made him leave. At first I thought it was over reach to charge the parents but now after hearing the circumstances , I wholly agree with that decision and would like to see if district and state policy was adhered to. You can not supervise your children 24-7-365 however you can be involved enough to catch things like this and prevent tragedies of this magnitude. The teacher did the right thing and the system failed after that.
Yes I also would be curious to see if there was a protocol to have the kid removed and if there isn't one if there should now be one. I mean as far as the school was concerned he had broken no rules at this point.
I 100% agree. Exactly what I said outloud when reading. Why was he not removed on the spot or school principle/councelor check locker and backpack , They should also hold some accountability. Looks like the teacher did right thing. but to expect Obvious irresponsible parents to do the right thing is insane.
In there defense, they thought something was wrong with him but it's HARD to imagine someone you know would turn into a school shooter.. until it happens. There needs to be a review on how they handle these situations in the future tho
@@automaticcaptions exactly anything after the fact seems like not enough, anything before seems excessive.
I agree with the charges to the parents but does anyone else believe the school officials school receive some attention as well ? I feel like they should of went further than allowing the student to just return to class.
The school started of doing everything right. But decided to punt when they were inches from the goal line. Should never let him stay in school.
@@lighthouse4161 exactly they should have never let the student return to class. Action should of been taken further than just a talking with the parents
To be fair, it’s not clear that they were aware of the fact he might have had a handgun on him, all they knew was that they had found some messed up drawings by a student and told his parents they need to get him into therapy. Sure it’s a giant warning sign, but they might have not had all the information
These parents were irresponsible, glad they’re being charged too.
The school officials should be charged as well. They aware of all the disturbing stuff going on with him and let him back in class - WTF?
Even the staunchest NRA pro gun type people I know agree his parents should be accountable.
100%.
BS, I'm sure all those Zombies that stormed the Capitol have issues with the prosecutor doing the right thing!
@@TruthB7Told Facts!!
I bet BLM would love to loot some more. Oh wait they never stopped 😂 but accountability will be limited and should be if the parents are held accountable that will take the accountability away from the guilty party see? They are charging him as an adult, why does and adult need to watch over another adult, some charges won’t stick and I pray it’s the parents charge because my little dude needs to be charged as an adult.
the NRA is the ONLY organization pitting Americans against eachother as far as gun rights go. we agree more than we disagree, however the NRA likes to paint an imaginary opposition to keep the funds rolling in. it's all a farce. they lobby for fear. nothing more. it's time for ALL AMERICANS to see what the NRA REALLY is.
I’ve been saying this for years. The parents and guardians must be held accountable for failing to properly supervise their children. Enough is enough. These parents failure to adequately supervise their child resulted in other parents losing their children.
Sounds like he had psychiatric problems and no one, including parents noticed or cared. Could have been avoided
@Bob That’s incorrect. Parents have the responsibility to ensure that any firearms are under lock and key. Secondly, you can withhold a child from school when the child is a danger to themselves or others. This is called “out of school suspension”. The parents were opposed to it which is their right to appeal, but then they should of ensured their child didn’t have his Christmas present aka hand gun. The parents have partial blame. Period. Start holding irresponsible parents accountable and watch this happen less.
The school had so much information this could of been avoided. I hope the school is also held accountable.
Agreed!
AGREED!!
I agree the red flags we're noticed the school should have informed the police instantly this could have been avoided such a shame prayers to the family and friends .
@@dennislawson2094 Exactly also a few students even alerted the school & stayed home that day bc they didn’t have a good feeling. I’m sure that kid had been bullied & it’s a shame it happened but that’s NO excuse to how this happened. They need to start putting metal detectors in every single school!! I have been saying this since the columbine shootings. Why doesn’t the government use our tax money for something useful!!! 😡
Charges against the parents are absolutely valid. The problem with SOME gun owners? They have plenty to say about their gun rights but fall flat on their face when it comes to the responsibility and accountability of owning weapons and ammunition.
There are actual sensible gun owners, and they even believe in proper gun control. The problem is it's the extreme gun nuts who have a bigger voice.
And that's why irresponsible people NEED to be made accountable ....especially when a life is taken away due to their IRRESPONSIBILITY!
@@Deuteromis I agree with you. I’m not against a gun ownership. This tragedy illustrates the importance of “responsible” gun ownership.
Be fair. I've owned firearms all my long life. I have ALWAYS advocated that the OWNER is responsible for allowing a gun to leave his/her control and for ANYTHING that happens as a result. (I would extend this even to guns that are STOLEN from the owner!) Not all supporters of the 2nd Amendment are of the NRA "gun-out-of-control" variety.
Partially true, but technically the kid stole the weapon, yes they should have had it locked up in a safe spot, but to charge the parents for involuntary manslaughter for something their kid did is ridiculous, that’s like charging a stolen gun owner with every murder committed with that weapon, so then the school and all the kids involved that knew of his intentions should also be charge then, right? Parents do hold some responsibility but a involuntary manslaughter charge is a stretch
Excellent news. Their negligence contributed to the deaths of 4 beautiful children so far.
What about the school officials not asking about where the gun was? And why did they allow what they thought was a mentally unstable student to remain at the school? Wouldn't that make those school officials liable also?
The school definitely mishandled this situation also. How do you let the kid return to class after literally asking for help in the scariest way possible. People are stupid. Smh. I’de file a lawsuit on the school also if one my kids were the victims. And maybe even if they weren’t. All the adults involved should be held accountable for this obvious negligence. Smh. He literally asked for help on a piece of paper he wrote his plan on. Putting all the kids and teachers at risk of the active shooter. They were warned by. Absolutely ridiculous!!
Oh my gawd. These charges are definitely warranted.
I only heard blame towards the parents for failing to inspect his backpack for the gun. We all know the parents are obviously incapable of raising a child by now. But what about the school? That's the moment you do a bag check. Wtf? Who would just send him back to class?
Seriously. Like, what more did this kid (adult) need to do to get the proper attention--- Not, what he did? So, "what" then?
I was thinking the exact same thing!! With all that information, why didn’t THE SCHOOL NOT CHECK HIS BACKPACK when they were in the office!!!!! They were literally in the office right before the shooting. They should’ve checked his backpack right then and there.
Seems like they got metal detectors in the wrong school("black school")
I'm good with anyone wanting to own a gun. You also own the responsibility of what happens. With great power comes great responsibility.
Ok Uncle Ben...
Are you Spiderman?
Son didn't learn not to get caught. He forgot that killing people causes you to "get caught".
Exactly! I’ve been saying it for decades.
Every American Citizen has a right to own a gun, but not all American Citizens should own one. That's my motto.
I’m surprised the school didn’t search his bag. Sounds like more than one person dropped the ball here.
100%. No, you are 1000% correct. If the backpack had been searched, four students would be alive today, and the kid would not be charged with murder.
[This decision not to search was apparently done by the school "guidance counselor"].
Finally the parents get to take responsibility for the actions of their kid. Hopefully this sends a message to other parents doing the same. Hope the kids in the hospital recover very soon. Condolences to the families of those that didn't survive. Their son needs serious help once he gets to prison.
Personal opinion this mother should be charged
Not to mention I think this is more of a set up then anything .
I wonder if these parents work with the government
Parents of bad kids should put them up for adoption immediately if this is the future you're pushing for. Parents being arrested for crimes they didn't commit. Insanity!
Yes! Thank you. Unbelievably negligent and complicit are these parents!
There are so many parents just like them in the US too.. so dumb
What great parents. You can do whatever you want, but you have to learn not to get caught...
That was the mom not the dad. So the use of parents is wrong
There is context missing. The media has a job to paint a picture. Just sayin'.
@@Bucephalus84 what does the media have to do with what was stated in a criminal indictment. Are you suggesting they shouldn't report on all the details of an indictment, or just the ones you want to know?
@@Bucephalus84 what's your take on,... "LOL. I'm not mad at you, you just need to learn how to not get caught"..???
@Bob I agree with that.
Every kid deserves a parent but not every parent deserves a kid. Wishing them long and painful suffering.
In my opinion the parents, especially the father, have been rightly charged. He purchased that firearm. He is responsible for securing the firearm and controlling how it is used. He was totally negligent. This wasn't a case where the kid stole the firearm. They knew their kid had issues. Totally irresponsible! The school should never have allowed this kid back to class.
I am pro-gun citizen. Those parents are responsible and are getting what the law has coming to them. RIP to the kids.
Clue-less parents take notice!!! Understand the signs from your kids!
And maybe outlaw buying guns for kids under 18.
dont forget to charge the bullies too!!
The kids who get firearms need the same thing as 18 yr Olds this kid needed help
The kid needed help. The parents should have pulled him from school that day as well as searched his backpack. I recieved a rifle and a handgun as Christmas presents on separate Christmases. I also grew up knowing they are not a toy. The handgun was purchased for actually defense against a guy that was very abusive to my mom, little brother and myself. I never used it and it was locked up in case my little brother found it.
… let me get this right. Blame the mentality unstable bad apples, but not gun control. The NRA is always mute every time a domestic terrorist shoots up a school. Pro guns everyone, that’s the fix!
Gun ownership is a right, but universal healthcare is not... Weird country.
There is plenty of HC, buy it. Keep the crap government out!
Because I have a right to defend myself but you don't have a right to my labor. Pretty simple.
I whole heartedly agree with the charges being filed against the parents. their negligence led to the deaths and harm of innocents at the hand of their own son, whom, as a minor, is also their responsibility. that being said, I just pray that the parents turn themselves in peacefully and don't pull a Brian Luandrie... there's been too much death already. God bless everyone.
The school officials who let him back into the classroom after talking with the parents should be charged also
They should have MADE the parents take the kid home that day.... expel him unless they agreed to get him counseling.
I am a big 2nd amendment guy... But,,, this is how it should be. Parents are liable for their children's actions.
I agree with you.
wow. just wow. unbelievable parenting
The school let him stay after seeing that drawing??? Some employees of the school district need to be charged as well!!!
I want to know why the school would allow the boy to return to class after they saw the parents weren't cooperating. They should have taken matters into their own hands and called the authorities
The school should have sent him home with his parents rather than allow him to stay at the school since they say that he was unstable.
The parents didn't want him to leave school.
I'm glad to hear they are being charged. I am concerned that this much detail is being released in a public forum rather than at trial. This would make the jury selection incredibly difficult.
Timmy Simpkins parents were not charged.
He was released on bail the next day
I agree. I'm surprised she shared this much information.
thejudgemeister, any decent attorney will advise them to plead and the shooter must go to a mental hospital before he's imprisoned. 2 adults who screwed up a child
I was thinking the same thing
@@blaqbay1762 what?
The school is grossly responsible for this event as well. I agree with the parents charges but the school has the power to not allow the child of concern back into the general school population. If they were worried enough to bring the parents down then they had the obligations keep the child home
, . . and to check his backpack. If that had been done, 4 children would be alive today, and the kid would not be charged with murder.
@@bobby-ov9qn I’m not arguing with you if it should have been checked…but if there was any idea it needed to be checked and it wasn’t then would the school not be liable ? If you believe a weapon is there the only response is to call the police. I don’t think anyone thought the weapon was there they just thought the child was going down the other towards something destructive
Acne Shooting Goods should also be held accountable for selling a gun to a criminal.
There had to of been signs of the son's mental state/problem way before they even bought him that gun. Not something that happens overnight & the parents did nothing :( I'm still shocked over Mom telling him not to get caught!!! Were there any lessons on honesty in that house?
Exactly, it is almost imposible they didn't notice their son was having problems and they gifted him a gun... what is wrong with them. It is clear when someone's mental health is in a bad state, i have deppression and my parents notice when i have a crisis even if i tried to cover it
My sentiments exactly!
Unfortunately so many parents want to be their kids friend instead of parent.
@@whizbang7130 Exactly
The school didn’t think to search his bag themselves after that drawing ??? And he was allowed back to class ??? Unbelievable, I hope all the children involved get the help they need after going through that.
These parents acted recklessly and must be held accountable.
Well deserved and well earned charges! Lock 'em up!
I’ve been saying this for years,” make the parents responsible for their kids actions”.
"You have to learn not to get caught" That's a criminal mindset right there if there's one.
I would have loved to have heard … cops were called they searched the bag they found a loaded gun and lives were saved. It’s great that the staff was observant and reported things but schools need to have the ability to call the cops and say we found this kid looking up billets and drawing disturbing things and the parents are here and do not want to take him home can you search his bag then 302 him
Exactly.
Why did the School not suspend him and send him home with his parents???? The school should be held accountable as well !!
Exactly. I was seven and made a gesture. (Not what you think). Only seven and was sent home. Really!!!!!
Lots of balls were dropped on this one. Woooo
I guess the parents of the victims can sue the school for it
Why didn’t they check his backpack?
I’m pretty sure they’re not allowed to do that unless he commits an act they can suspend him for. It’s up to the parents to pull them out.
Since when do parents choose if & when their child goes home or not as requested by the school.
@Bob so the parents weren't responsible adults? He needed to be removed from school & if parents refused, then time for police intervention. Hindsight. I presume u meant "sued"? For me, it is all on the parents.
With all that information, why didn’t THE SCHOOL NOT CHECK HIS BACKPACK when they were in the office!!!!! They were ALL literally in the office right before the shooting. They should’ve checked his backpack right then and there.
So why didnt the school require him to be searched in front of his parents before they left? I would think that some blame belongs to the school as well for not demanding it and calling the police to be present as well. How could they possibly allow him to stay?
Thank you God!!! Give this prosecutor a bonus!!!!! And I’m for the 2nd amendment!!
Giving a mentally disturbed child a semi auto is a dumb as pouring a 5th of jack down his throat and giving him the keys to the jag. Idk if this will become a gun issue bc I think even 2nd amendment activists would be against the parents behavior and actions for this incident. It is so sad bc the boy could have received help, the parents were warned. Be safe out there sir
@@cdcurry1203 yes sir thanks! I was praying to God and basically said lord help to many young lives are being lost!! And then today I hear that the parents were being charged!!!! Hallelujah!!
@@williampittman3161 You can be pro-2nd amendment and still want stricter gun regulations in this country. NOT every fool should own weapons nor have the right to own them.
Based on this narrative...what about the school officials who returned him to the classroom and didn't inspect the backpack?
I know he had horrible drawings and one of them showed a bullet, plus he was searching the internet for ammo. Seems like the parents weren't forthcoming about the ownership of a gun nor the fact that the son had access to it. I doubt the parents were honest about that to begin with.
Yes blame the school official, anymore excuses?
Seems like the police should have been notified.
gun wouldn't be in the backpack if parents had the gun locked up
I'm wondering why more people aren't commenting about this. As an educator, it makes me wonder if laws there prevented them from taking further action in advance , etc.
In my country we don't have that kind of problem: fire arms are not allowed, period. It's that simple, people...
It must be really awful to live in a country where schools have to worry about the well proven probability that their students could be shot dead!
The parents failed stop school officials failed stop they should all be held accountable my heart goes out to families who have lost a loved one.
Huge lawsuit for the school
Awesome! Hope the victims' families sue. Now the little killer's pathetic parents will ALSO find out what it's like to lose everything.
The parents are innocent.
@@crybaby1457 No way.
Everything is used against you in posting on social media and in your phone is record. Cell phones and the patriot act accuse wrongfully.
@@crybaby1457 innocent? NO! Ingnorant YES! I hope they rot in jail.
Oh they’ll sue!
I'm feeling pretty good about my son's request for a new skateboard for Xmas, as well as a small stock investment account. These parents should be charged. Prayers to the victims family and friends.
Wow I'm glad you found an opportunity in this tragedy to pat yourself on the back! 😂
If you have to compare your son to a deranged killer then maybe you should change the way you parent.
just please no doge coin lmao
Smart kid!
Ha so ask your son and you not to use the skateboard as a weapon yes they can be just as dangerous and yes I've seen it I'm not going to say in detail but just know it can be a weapon so basically decide conflict is best way and respect others and other human life bc when you don't respect life then there is a problem
Not sure why the school didn't suspend him immediately, they need to be held accountable as well.
I'm sure they will be. I suspect that all parties, including the parents of the four slain students, are lawyering up big time. This is a loss of life that should not have happened.
The school found the drawings, called him immediately in to the office, called the parents in, but didn’t search his backpack?? Why didn’t they do that?!
Apparently, schools need a search warrant for students' knapsacks and lockers. The parents refused to do so, or ask him if he had a gun, during the meeting.
I believe in our 2nd amendment. But you must teach your child to respect the gun, and you need to be an aware parent. Those two are beyond pathetic.
Condolences to all affected.
Maybe conservatives should be open to regulations instead of having a free for all gun policy.
@@laetrille What kind of regulations would you want exactly?
@@Michael_J_M14 Always have to add Trump to everything, unbelievable.
@@dianemccord6660 Jennifer Crumbley wrote an open letter to Trump thanking him for protecting the 2A. It's very relevant.
I'm Conservative Republican and for Second Amendment and I agree 100%
LOL don't get caught...was pretty much their parenting style. The deserve all responsibility...lol
searching for ammunition is hardly alarming I would've probably said the same to my kid
We are living in the dumbest timeline.
@@poiu477 Seriously? You people are crazy!
@@poiu477 . . . When can we expect to see a list of your kid's victims' names?
@@duane_313 why? There's numerous legit reasons he could've been researching ammo. When I was a kid I had rudimentary plans for shaped charge explosives, you didn't see me going around blowing up cars. Further, a well armed populace is the only way capitalism will be overthrown and communism established
I can’t believe that the school let this boy continue to go back in the school, after they was getting all of the signs from him. This school should be held accountable as well as the parents😡😡😡 this is heart breaking for the parents of the lost kid’s 😢 🙏🏾
So much for "see something, say something".
So they are charging the parents of someone that is been judged as an adult? Ok then
America loves their guns. Their children, not as much.
So sad for the parents of the children killed no parent should ever bury their child. The school should also be held accountable the same as the parents of the shooter.
Why have meetings if they can't remove the problem child?
Unpopular but accurate opinion 👆
Guns in a home without adequate boundaries and adult parenting is finally being addressed. Everytime I see a minor with a gun or committing a violent crime, I ask myself, "Where are the parents?" I hope this is a landmark case for parental responsibility.
EXACTLY
The shooter was charged as adult and
his parents were charged as the
guardians of minors.
This is ridiculous
@KK I can't defend the parents, can you?
Only the all-knowing can defend others?
Total failure of parent’s and school officials. 😢😢
Instead of buying him a gun, they should gotten Jim some help.
This is a good example of why some people shouldn't have kids.
This is such a tragedy God bless all the families involved
These parents need not pass go, need not collect $200 and go straight to jail…. Seriously that is about as stupid as you can get to buy a psychotic child a gun…
Nice mixing in the game monopoly in your comment…
They will be losing everything, what a great dad!
I think the don't pass go comment is stupid like do you need attention that bad I mean it's stupider than a troll likewise a anyting
@@robertmarquez343 yeps let’s comment on on my reply and completely ignore the issue.. yep that makes real sense...
@@kolonjikunjufu1564 - Your comment was in bad taste - trying to "joke" about a tragic mass shooting.
I've been saying for years that the parents should be held accountable for what their child does then maybe parents will look after their child , what they are up to and who they are hanging around with
Put cameras every right, might as well watch your child use the bathroom too if your so desperate for control over the child and monitoring of your child.
@@nelson2801 Never thought I had ever utter this sentence. Being held accountable to your children's actions and monitoring them as they use the bathroom are not the samething.
They are not being held accountable for what their child did. They are being held accountable for what they did.
@@nelson2801 when u sign up 2 be a parent u give up at least 18 years of your life wondering where your kid is...who is there to observe them....are the observer's responsible people...who are your kids hanging around with, etc....waiting to hear when they come home, etc.
I don't know about you, but my Momma knew where I was and who I was with no matter how I tried to sneak out. She used to have this saying, "If you hang with trash, then you get trash!" The problem is people have got lazy and want everyone else to babysit their kids. Then when something bad happens they blame everyone else and cry about what a good kid he or she was. Parenting is tiring, but you make that choice for 18 years.
@@jaditelady173mary4 if you raised a child right they would know the difference and be honest with you, a child will be honest with the parent but once they feel their bit of privacy is taken away then lying will start. Being firm and fair is difficult when raising a child but it still doesnt mean they should be under a microscope 24 hours day
This is the first having parents charged for their child's crime but it's very appropriate. They'll be caught soon enough and will have to share the responsibility. It saddens me to hear about these school shootings. Schools should be a safe zone for children, teenagers. Please do better America.....
In my Humble Opinion, School Officials should also be charged!
100% agree. Gun owner must be held accountable. This will minimize risk greatly. What kind of parents would let their children have control of such weapon?
From all the school shootings, Matthew, it appears to be a lot of them!
What about aiding and abetting charges against the school kids and their parents for not telling the school what they knew about this happening.
Abiding?
Stop for a moment and think about the number of times kids say things that could be interpreted as indicative of impending violence. School officials would be shutting down school every day. So no, the blame is on the parents.
@@K....D.... Fixed it. Thank you.
@@rebootresetrevolution7904 Every bit of info should have been reported by the school kids and the parents of these school kids, to the school, if they even had an inkling this might happen. It is called doing the right thing. All those kids might still be alive today.
Sue the school too. They saw the signs the note.
Why would you give the parents 48 hours to seek counseling. The school should have called the authorities and detained him? Smoke and mirrors! Wake up world!
Wish they do that to all the parents of kid shooters
This is crazy! The whole family is crazy!
That is not a mother! Poor boy, should have suffered imensely under care of such woman!
“Help me” woah. These parents were negligent and it helped create a monster.
So are Timothy Simpkins parents going to get charged also? Why did Timothy get bail? He should be in jail too without bail or bond.
Just thought the same thing. Wtf
@KK no they just didn’t check his stuff regularly to know that he had a gun and drugs to sell at school 🤷♂️
@KK and why did he get bail?? Exactly my point.