My problem is people act like that it's so bad for this show to be aired, but what they fail to realize is that this is a reality for so many people out there, it's considered "normal'.
Man I remember being in high school, the biggest bullies were teachers. But those ugly soul bullies made me stronger, I am way more assertive and I understand my own value as well as the fact that not everyone has to like you and that in the end of the day there is a life outside of that bad period and a person or people who most definitely care. Suicide is not an answer. World and life is full of wonders it is a shame to end it too soon because of bunch of insecure low minded assholes Peace ✌🏻
I have lost someone at the age of 12 to sucide... and it hurt so very much. To this day i remember what clothes i wore, what jewlery. But guess what, it was never discussed by the school staff again. in the year book they had a page about dabing... nothing mentioning him.... just his photo next to everyone acting as if nothing had ever happened... lps (Lincoln public school) sent out an email telling kids not to watch 13rw but guess what? we have already lived through half of it; we have lived through sucide....:/ this makes you think, did i do anything to cause this? i love the show it makes you think.
Olivia Serrano A teacher at my school in San Diego ended his own life and the school never addressed it. It was horrible I was struck to my core. It damaged students.
13 reasons why isn't trying to glorify suicide,it's trying to tell you not to make fun of or spread rumors about others or the person will take their own lives,I watched it by myself and with my dad,he agrees with me. And the suicide scene isn't shouting out "Suicide solves problems" when in reality it's trying to say that suicide isn't a joke nor a choice and it's a hard decision,and if you're going to cut yourself because of the show it either means that you're that easily triggered or you want attention. If you are easily triggered by the show then don't watch it. Easy as that. (Edit) some people aren't really getting my point.
"if you're going to cut yourself because of the show it's.....bc you're attention seeking". Wow, what the fuck is wrong with you? I guess if you're still this much of a terrible person, you honestly didn't take away ANYTHING at all from the show. Better go watch it again, and learn that bullying suicidal people and bullshit like this being said online/irl is one of the major reasons why so many teens kill themselves.
we'll it kinda gives us a warning in away it shows is what to look for in someone who's gonna kill themselves and we can try to be their friend to give them a REASON to live. Its not that hard to spot someone with depression and social awkwardness HONESTLY THE AMOUNT OF SALT THROWN AT THIS SHOW IS GROSS...... NO DISGUSTING
Fierce Amanda people are so triggered by this show because 1. They either don't really know that this is going on with people 2. Don't want to remember that people are dying cause of this. Society is trying to be perfect so they want to hide/ push away what's going around in the world
Hebba Snobar this is supposed to be a nicely type of reply but how does saying that you blame people for your death send a positive message she takes revenge on them by killing herself she blames clay for not helping her but she told him to stay away and not help her out
Klarissa Rivera to people that are already struggling with depression and considering suicide it can make it seem to them that they could get revenge and get what they wanted
Klarissa Rivera It sent the message that a self-absorbed bitch killed herself for revenge. The only person who did anything really evil was the rapist and HANNAH BAKER. Everyone else were just typical teenagers.
13 reasons why really opened my eyes that suicide is more serious than I thought and what's really scary is that before I watched the show my ex girlfriend told me she was having suicidal thoughts and my little dumbass was like "oh" and I didn't do shit about it but after the eye opener she didn't even want the help luckily I had to give her tough love and call for help so that's a lesson learned for me
Lol I cried it's amazing to see students take a show with meaning and then try and place that meaning into their lives to not only help them but also help others
Not going to lie, after finishing the show I was slightly shaken up but it's real, it's a reality that suicide is huge. The show is showing how the effects of bullying and sexual assault can effect someone so bad and lead them to kill them self. It isn't glorifying suicide because it shows how horrible it is.
I live in Lake Orion which is right next to Oxford and I have been to that school for plays and things and I had no idea that was going on but it is good to hear that people are making a change :)
i still love 13 reasons why like I just don't understand the problem with the show the show is showing people how the little things you do can hurt people deeply
With all respect, that is the problem with the show. Some of the problems, yes, can cause real trauma, but no one has to right to blame someone for their suicide. Her making those tapes could have been just a character flaw, but it framed as what she did was justified. People reassure each other that it is their fault. That message is very harmful, especially for anyone watching that may have lost someone to suicide. No one needs to go their life thinking they lost someone to suicide. They didn't kill them, their mental illness did. Again, this is meant as a respectful reply.
The show make it seem that suicide is okay. That it's a normal part of life and in reality suicide should not be shown as a normal part of life. Children shouldn't have to live with the fact of knowing their friend committed suicide. Other students will feel like they are at fault and may live with the guilt and regret even if they weren't part of the problem. Suicide should not be seen as positive which is what this show is doing. I'm sorry but this show goes against all the research the producers were given about how to actually speak about suicide and that there is help. Many people who have committed suicide or attempted to commit suicide feel that they can't speak to anyone for fear of judgment, ridicule, feeling weak, feeling ashamed,...the list can keep going on and on.
Haley Sauls no it does not make it seem okay. It makes it seem worse than people think. Yes it does blame it on other people but it doesn't make it seem ok. Honestly showing the suicide scene shows how bad it is.
???? ???? some people have reasons to not watch the show, like not wanting to be emotionally triggered and it is being shoved in there faces everywhere they go
ally11236 wrong opinions. yall so scared children are gonna kill themselves because of a tv show who help spread awareness about it when yall never realised before, that children already killed themselves and none cared. but i'm glad if all it took for yall to "care" was a tv show that shocked you.
ally11236 ok, so let's say racism is good. but hey, it's my opinion so it's not wrong? (obviously i don't think it's good i'm showing you that not all opinions are good just because it's "opinions")
If you're media literate you'll understand it. It's inspiring and can be taken the wrong way but it needs to be done. We need to turn things like this into a positive and not take the negatives from it. You should think it's not glamourising it in a bad way, it's awareness. The show is different, more graphic and bold, wherever there is power there is resistance! What these students did was powerful! And this is what we should embrace and take out of shows like this, the positiveness or awareness and courage. The creativity that stems from it. Everyone is different, our stories, the way we cope and our breaking points. We are all brave and strong humans, we have the power to change the world and make it better, our attitudes, values and morals. To who ever reads this You are strong and I'm proud of how far you have come and will go xo
I am very proud to go to this school, Oxford High School, and this 13 reasons why not seemed like the stupidest idea at first. "Parodying a Netflix show about some narcissistic dead teen? Just trying to get traction." As the days went by and i listened to these people talk, it felt less like a parody and more heartfelt and meaningful, listening to these seniors talk about their issues from the past. I personally have become numb to hateful comments and they have no effect on me, but they do to many others. 2 students that i know of have commited suicide at my school and these people sharing their stories are helping students get help. One student heard these comments and went to the counslers and got help, sharing his story to our entire school. These people are incredibly brave and inspiring, and I appreciate them for doing this for everyone.
It's a shitty, poorly handled show, OK? Even worse that they put it on netflix where any kid can watch it. Yes, parents should monitor what their kids watch online but we all know they can't stand over their shoulder 24/7 and kids always find a way to see what they want. Sure, the show demonstrates how you shouldn't be mean and talk about people behind their backs and such (although it's effin 2017, did y'all not know that already?), but it was too risky to put out their for young, impressionable people to see. And don't say people against the show are being "overly sensitive" because when it comes to a person's life there's no such thing as over sensitive. Don't watch the show. You may think it doesn't directly make kids wanna kill themselves, but it's how what they're seeing is gonna affect them mentally as they grow. The creators of the show even talked to counsellors in an area where there was a suicide epidemic, and they were told how to handle the topic. Guess what? They did everything they were told NOT to do. Even the title itself "13 Reasons WHY" suggests that suicide can be justified and is the answer, and NO it never is the answer.
aww...bless u kids. bless u. Much love to u from South Lyon, Mi. I was bullied, and I pray for your strength to "deflect others hatred"..God bless you all
You see?! This DOES help people! It's encouraging kids who have felt that way to get help! And just by them sharing their stories helped other kids share their stories it's a never ending cycle, and a good one at that. I applaud these kids for being so brave and doing such a wonderful thing at their school
This show isnt glorifying nothing. NOTHING. This show shows everyone that it happens that it never going to go away unless we do something about it. Alot od times people cannot handle the truth about reality you cant blame reality becUse in the end it helps someone out there.
my best friend committed suicide 14 years ago when we were 18 and no matter what the people closest will have guilt whether we did enough or contributed in some way too it. I have tortured myself wondering what went wrong and that my friend was so sad she had to hang herself. I know there is controversy around the show but I loved it and respected how honest it was. Sure it hurts to talk about but most uncomfortable subjects do.
Megan would love this. I’m her cousin. I was 10 when she died and I had no clue why she did it or what suicide was. I found out 3 years ago why she did it when I had my suicide attempt. I had a tiny talk with her mom when I was at her house. I haven’t tried since. She was so heartbroken and I don’t want my family to feel like that. Someone will care if you leave. Be strong. It hurts so bad
I just don't understand why adults think the tv show is now giving us teens and younger the idea to commit suicide. It's not the tv show it the dumb bully at school and online that can't keep there mouth shut.. Fix that and maybe so many of us wouldn't die. This show help me cope with my suicide attempt and now it's like it never happened
I'm 10 years old and I love 13 reasons why cause in school I'm being bullied like Hannah Baker so I made tapes to explain how I'm felling and how am I gonna find a way to stop this ❤️📼🎤▶️💾❤️
I was apart of this project and guess what ... I got bullied and ignored trying to have my voice heard. I wasn't popular enough to share my experience that was still going on at this point. I kept getting told I was going to tell my story and they kept replacing me with new and better people. Gotta love Oxford
I don't think it glorifies it so much, but it does put across suicide in such a bad way, showing it as a revenge plot, not at all linking it to mental illness, making her tapes blame people for her decision; other people can drive someone to suicide but it is ultimately their decision which is a hard thing to say but it's true.
E-J Thompson yes that was the main think that annoyed me about the show that it spend way to much time on the revenge plot and didn't mention how suicide is due to mental illness a lot of the time.
The purpose of the show was for awareness, not to make people kill themselves. Parents just get butt hurt because that's what they think of the show. I bet you after every kid watched that show they didn't even think of suicide.
I myself was diagnosed with depression, severe anxiety, and 3 suicide attempts before ... I don't think this show glorified suicide at all... after I watched it I realized how if my suicide attempts were successful... my death would have impacted more lives then I ever thought. I am grateful that I am still alive... honestly this show is just opening up opportunities to talk about topics that people aren't talking about
愛子キス the story shows someone who didn't get the help she needed that we know could have saved her. They use this lesson to teach others that you CAN make a difference in real life, and to not ignore symptoms, depression, and feelings like Hannah's. It's to show what can happen if you don't care and to raise awareness for suicide prevention
I love the quote that parents need to take care of their kids and talk to them, prepare them for these things; not wholly blaming '13 Reasons,' even though these frontal concerns are legitimate, it ultimately comes down to the home life and core values.
I have suffered from depression for a long time and thought about suicide, and in my opinion watching 13 reasons why shows me, what could happen if I did, it shows me why not because of all the people I will leave behind and cause pain to and all the things I can do in the future and that pain is temporary but suicide is forever
I'm glad they're finally making this story. So many teens need to see this to know they're not alone. For those who think the story is too impressionable on kids, are short-sighted. Young people are much more intelligent than adults give them credit for. Families should watch the show.
Was there!!! Thought about dying a lot in HS and escalated in college. We need to talk about it mental health. Talking about suicide doesn't make someone more likely to kill themselves. Yes this show can be triggering so if you are on the brink don't watch the show better yet get help!!! I spoke at teen camp 4 years ago s haring my story in front of about 40 teens. I got feedback and people speaking to me all week. It was huge for me and them. Providing camp happens this summer it will be year 5 for me. I'm also doing a public speaking training and hope to get the message across to even more people.
It's wild to me that this is popular in high schools now. I read the book in middle school ten years ago and I remember it being sad but similar to a lot of young adult fiction. It's inspiring controversy because it's visual maybe? I mean this content is very accessible. I know I felt comfort that I wasn't the only kid who was feeling hopeless at 13.
I think if anything it was showing you the ugly parts of suicide. Like what gets left behind of ones family, friends, community. Maybe people just weren't ready for something like that.
I watched 13 Reasons Why and I don't get how people hate on it, it's trying to show young kids that suicide is something serious and there are always people around you who you can talk to. Just do what Hannah didn't do and talk about it with others and not commit suicide because there's always gonna be someone who cares about you.
ugh it annoys me that people are hating on the show and saying that it glamorizes suicide when it clearly doesn't. this is probably the most real show I've seen.
the show is about suicide awareness. and if people think that this show will cause even more suicides then those people obviously aren't right in the head. As a victim of bullying myself, I have to say that 13 reasons why helped me a lot. it showed me that I'm not the only one who has gone through this , how horrible kids can be, and how suicide is never the answer because you are not only hurting yourself but your also hurting others
I wish this was at my school there is so bully up until recently i heard some one say go kill you some one. I wanted to help by telling a teacher but i was to scared. Later that day i decided to tell the office. their were police and an ambulance at the front. I ealked the stairs only to see blood and then i realized i was to late someone jumped of the stairs and died. Everyday i could imagine things being different. If only i went to a teacher i could of saved a life
see what this show has done! I love how there's so much controversy but if it weren't for the show, would these kids have even had the idea or inspiration to share their stories? it's great to see the good that's already been done.
I don't get it... people complain that there aren't enough shows talking about suicide, bullying ect. yet when there is a show about it they label it "glorifying" that topic. seriously no one can win. I hate this world.
I don't get why people think that people shouldn't watch the series. This is real life, people actually go through this stuff. I don't think it's glorifying suicide, it's just showing what people go through.
Again... Why can't we raise our children to be kind and show them that if they make fun of others or be mean that it hurts and can cause damage. Stop raising little assholes. I was bullied in high school, I was told I was a devil worshiper and many other things and ya, I considered suicide but fortunately I had a mom I was super close with. And I told her a lot of what I was going through at that time. I know, not even has that.
This show is a perfect example of what actually goes on in schools. Teachers know fuck all, and think everything is perfect. Nothing is perfect, and this show really allowed everyone to get an idea of what fucking goes on.
All of the issues in 13rw need to be heard, not ignored. This is the only show that is showing the reality and people saying not to watch it because it's too triggering or 'glorifying suicide' it's supposed to be triggering but it is definitely not glorifying suicide, it's teaching people about lots of different issues that are not being heard enough. These issues need a chance to be heard not ignored. So many people that haven't watched it are criticising it. If you get the chance, you should watch it and realise it's not anything bad.
I think it really showed what rape is and how it affects people. I feel most guys see rape as something that's just a casual thing that a girl will just get over but the show emphasized how both Hannah and Jessica were impacted and also on how violent the situations were.
I don't think it glorified it so much as it taught "if they kill themself it's your fault " they put all the blame on the people around Hannah and she was never given responsibility
Joy Manangan what you say is true. however, for me (i'm 30) i think the problem is that the show never really set up asking for mental help as an option. i mean she went to the counselor but he didn't help and in reality that would never ever happen. believe me you, teachers and counselors go through extensive training for dealing with those kinds of issues and they have to fill out incident reports when someone comes to them. that counselor wouldn't have been able to ignore her in real life and i would hate to think that actually ignoring a student is an option for some bottom line, suicide doesn't end the chance of things getting worse, it only ends the chance of things getting better. please continue to love one another and ask for help when you need it. DON'T EVER BE ASHAMED TO ASK FOR HELP!
Did you read the book? I did. About 5yrs ago. And I think that everybody should watch it! And of course there should be a discution about It between people. I don't think or feel in anyway that they are "glorifying" suicide or that it was " suicide out of revenge". And I don't think it will push more kids to commit suicide. Just like talking about sex will not push more kids to do it! We need to stop being hypocrites as a society and talk openly about these issues. I loved the book ( the message behind It being: that it's an accumulaton of "bad things" pilled up that makes some people feel trapped in a never ending nightmare. Scared and confused) I think people are pointing fingers and missing the whole lesson we should all take from "13 reasons why", which is: BE NICE because yes: words can kill.....
Anyone who thinks this show doesnt glorify suicide has clearly never been suicidal. You can enjoy it, but at least admit that not everyone will be able to handle it
i think ppl shud let their kids watch it. its something important to see how the hurtful things people say can affect someone. so what if its uncomfortable, its something real that happens.
What makes this suicide so appealing are all the tears and devastation that follows from peers. Thats what kids want. Sadly they dint realize after a week nobody in school will care about them anymore and they will just be a sad thing that happened and oh well lets move forward in the minds of other teens. Sad but true.
I hate how people say it glorifies it. It portrays the raw aspect of suicide, and you just want to ignore that's how it is? It was graphic and messy and terrifying for some. That show is nowhere near glorification of suicide. What they were saying about "she gets what she wants" pissed me off. Yes, she successfully completed suicide. You really everyone else who commits suicide "get what they want" too? That's how suicide works, and for you turning your kids away and not let then have exposure to things like this are the reason why people aren't educated on this subject
I think kids should totally watch this, like from a young age. People have to get over getting offended by graphic language/content, because it'll teach a kid from a very very young age not to do that. The show while good, goes a bit far, but wasn't that the point? It's supposed to showcase the horrors of bullying and suicide.
I know what it's like to loose a friend to suicide but he wasn't bullied he was depressed he was only 20 when he died I remember the day he died my mom told me this won't be the last time that you'll loose a friend to suicide I don't live that far from where he was found my friend whose father is a retired state of Michigan police 👮🏻 officer discovered his car than ultimately he found my friend he was missing for 8 days I miss a lot!
I agree that there are parts of the show that can trigger people, but there are of warnings and the age restriction is 16 years old I think, you should watch it on your own risk.
isisdragoness1981 ok 1) glorify- to make something seem more ideal than it actually is Let's look at how the show did that. The show used Hannah's tapes as vectors for promoting moralistic change. Like her death spurred guilt, regret and awareness. Portraying suicide as something that instigates people to "change" is making it more ideal than it actually is. Further more the show didn't address the mental illness aspect of it at ALL. Being suicidal IS a mental illness. When a person is suicidal they have no hope left it's just complete and utter clinical depression. Hannah meanwhile was driven to the point of suicide yet had the time, energy and will to record 13 tapes calling all her high school classmates out followed by drawing a map for them and then after all that decided... ok now I'll kill myself. It's so juvenile in its portrayal of a complex mental issue, so yes that is making it more ideal than it actually is 2) revenge: the act of hurting or harming someone in return for a wrong doing faced at their hands. Hannah: you made me feel insecure... now Its my turn to make you feel insecure. It doesn't get any more text book definition than that. The script almost cites the perfect example for the dictionary definition of revenge.
These scenes should be "hard to watch". That's part of what makes this show so great. Bullies don't ever get to see what it's like. This show actually shows it. There are warnings before the hard stuff so if you know you are going to be that triggered then don't watch it.
My problem is people act like that it's so bad for this show to be aired, but what they fail to realize is that this is a reality for so many people out there, it's considered "normal'.
Alexis Eavey lol truth
Man I remember being in high school, the biggest bullies were teachers. But those ugly soul bullies made me stronger, I am way more assertive and I understand my own value as well as the fact that not everyone has to like you and that in the end of the day there is a life outside of that bad period and a person or people who most definitely care. Suicide is not an answer. World and life is full of wonders it is a shame to end it too soon because of bunch of insecure low minded assholes
Peace ✌🏻
I have lost someone at the age of 12 to sucide... and it hurt so very much. To this day i remember what clothes i wore, what jewlery. But guess what, it was never discussed by the school staff again. in the year book they had a page about dabing... nothing mentioning him.... just his photo next to everyone acting as if nothing had ever happened... lps (Lincoln public school) sent out an email telling kids not to watch 13rw but guess what? we have already lived through half of it; we have lived through sucide....:/
this makes you think, did i do anything to cause this? i love the show it makes you think.
Olivia Serrano A teacher at my school in San Diego ended his own life and the school never addressed it. It was horrible I was struck to my core. It damaged students.
13 reasons why isn't trying to glorify suicide,it's trying to tell you not to make fun of or spread rumors about others or the person will take their own lives,I watched it by myself and with my dad,he agrees with me. And the suicide scene isn't shouting out "Suicide solves problems" when in reality it's trying to say that suicide isn't a joke nor a choice and it's a hard decision,and if you're going to cut yourself because of the show it either means that you're that easily triggered or you want attention. If you are easily triggered by the show then don't watch it. Easy as that.
(Edit) some people aren't really getting my point.
LPS Pixie Stix TV Thing is, I've seen silent short films that explain anti-bullying better than what network executives can pitch.
"if you're going to cut yourself because of the show it's.....bc you're attention seeking".
Wow, what the fuck is wrong with you? I guess if you're still this much of a terrible person, you honestly didn't take away ANYTHING at all from the show. Better go watch it again, and learn that bullying suicidal people and bullshit like this being said online/irl is one of the major reasons why so many teens kill themselves.
we'll it kinda gives us a warning in away it shows is what to look for in someone who's gonna kill themselves and we can try to be their friend to give them a REASON to live. Its not that hard to spot someone with depression and social awkwardness HONESTLY THE AMOUNT OF SALT THROWN AT THIS SHOW IS GROSS...... NO DISGUSTING
LPS Pixie Stix TV exactly
That Person you know what yeah! That's what I'm saying. People should watch a show to learn to be nice cause that's what I'm saying 😀👍🏻
I am so fed up with everyone bashing this show because it actually says a lot about society and how we only look at the bad in everything
Fierce Amanda people are so triggered by this show because 1. They either don't really know that this is going on with people 2. Don't want to remember that people are dying cause of this. Society is trying to be perfect so they want to hide/ push away what's going around in the world
Hebba Snobar this is supposed to be a nicely type of reply but how does saying that you blame people for your death send a positive message she takes revenge on them by killing herself she blames clay for not helping her but she told him to stay away and not help her out
Fierce Amanda and it got this conversation going, after all
Seriously it's a book, if they want to give backlash they should give it to the book. It's not their story.
what was so glamorous about the show??? I think it definitely sent a positive message and it's something we should all learn from.
Klarissa Rivera for me too man! this is so bullshit
Klarissa Rivera didn't she tell that guy to leave her the fuck alone and then for upset when he actually left?
Klarissa Rivera to people that are already struggling with depression and considering suicide it can make it seem to them that they could get revenge and get what they wanted
Klarissa Rivera It sent the message that a self-absorbed bitch killed herself for revenge. The only person who did anything really evil was the rapist and HANNAH BAKER. Everyone else were just typical teenagers.
13 reasons why really opened my eyes that suicide is more serious than I thought and what's really scary is that before I watched the show my ex girlfriend told me she was having suicidal thoughts and my little dumbass was like "oh" and I didn't do shit about it but after the eye opener she didn't even want the help luckily I had to give her tough love and call for help so that's a lesson learned for me
Lol I cried it's amazing to see students take a show with meaning and then try and place that meaning into their lives to not only help them but also help others
Not going to lie, after finishing the show I was slightly shaken up but it's real, it's a reality that suicide is huge. The show is showing how the effects of bullying and sexual assault can effect someone so bad and lead them to kill them self. It isn't glorifying suicide because it shows how horrible it is.
The Trashiest EXACTLY!!! thank you finally someone understands
The Trashiest ikr
she only blames 12 people !!!
Tae-Hee Kim She blames 13 people, don't forget Mr.Porter
+Matisnotonfire don't forget she blame Justin twice!!
charlie velasquez Technically, the second time was Shery.
+ElectricXD wait, how?
JUSTIN GOT 2 TAPES. and clay didn't get blamed. so 11 people
I live in Lake Orion which is right next to Oxford and I have been to that school for plays and things and I had no idea that was going on but it is good to hear that people are making a change :)
i still love 13 reasons why like I just don't understand the problem with the show the show is showing people how the little things you do can hurt people deeply
With all respect, that is the problem with the show. Some of the problems, yes, can cause real trauma, but no one has to right to blame someone for their suicide. Her making those tapes could have been just a character flaw, but it framed as what she did was justified. People reassure each other that it is their fault.
That message is very harmful, especially for anyone watching that may have lost someone to suicide. No one needs to go their life thinking they lost someone to suicide. They didn't kill them, their mental illness did.
Again, this is meant as a respectful reply.
The show make it seem that suicide is okay. That it's a normal part of life and in reality suicide should not be shown as a normal part of life. Children shouldn't have to live with the fact of knowing their friend committed suicide. Other students will feel like they are at fault and may live with the guilt and regret even if they weren't part of the problem. Suicide should not be seen as positive which is what this show is doing. I'm sorry but this show goes against all the research the producers were given about how to actually speak about suicide and that there is help. Many people who have committed suicide or attempted to commit suicide feel that they can't speak to anyone for fear of judgment, ridicule, feeling weak, feeling ashamed,...the list can keep going on and on.
???? ???? Because it blames suicide on other people and makes it even seem okay.
Haley Sauls no it does not make it seem okay. It makes it seem worse than people think. Yes it does blame it on other people but it doesn't make it seem ok. Honestly showing the suicide scene shows how bad it is.
???? ???? some people have reasons to not watch the show, like not wanting to be emotionally triggered and it is being shoved in there faces everywhere they go
THIS. THIS. this is the kind of thing the producers hoped to achieve in our community - people coming together to raise awareness of important issues.
This show is meant to prevent suicide and to prevent bullying , I think this show is good to start conversation
the amount of salt towards 13 reason why is annoying
anime weeb FR
anime weeb oh no, people have different opinions on the subject? What a travesty.
ally11236 wrong opinions. yall so scared children are gonna kill themselves because of a tv show who help spread awareness about it when yall never realised before, that children already killed themselves and none cared. but i'm glad if all it took for yall to "care" was a tv show that shocked you.
ella hey um opinions are subjective so they can't be wrong..?
ally11236 ok, so let's say racism is good. but hey, it's my opinion so it's not wrong? (obviously i don't think it's good i'm showing you that not all opinions are good just because it's "opinions")
If you're media literate you'll understand it. It's inspiring and can be taken the wrong way but it needs to be done. We need to turn things like this into a positive and not take the negatives from it. You should think it's not glamourising it in a bad way, it's awareness. The show is different, more graphic and bold, wherever there is power there is resistance! What these students did was powerful! And this is what we should embrace and take out of shows like this, the positiveness or awareness and courage. The creativity that stems from it. Everyone is different, our stories, the way we cope and our breaking points. We are all brave and strong humans, we have the power to change the world and make it better, our attitudes, values and morals. To who ever reads this You are strong and I'm proud of how far you have come and will go xo
She did not really blame them she is saying the things they could have done that could have kept her alive
so, blame?
Hailey Villegas child, she blamed them
Hailey Villegas not taking responsibility is blame. She didn't have to kill herself
Hailey Villegas she did blame them,and she kind of used suicide as revenge
Mikiah McAfee it doesn't matter if she could see them or not
"Glorifying teen suicide"
*face palm*
Exactly. Smh
I mean ik it sounds dumb but for someone to be on the brink of suicide, death could be glorifying to them...
I'm a teenager and that's just so stupid
I am very proud to go to this school, Oxford High School, and this 13 reasons why not seemed like the stupidest idea at first. "Parodying a Netflix show about some narcissistic dead teen? Just trying to get traction." As the days went by and i listened to these people talk, it felt less like a parody and more heartfelt and meaningful, listening to these seniors talk about their issues from the past. I personally have become numb to hateful comments and they have no effect on me, but they do to many others. 2 students that i know of have commited suicide at my school and these people sharing their stories are helping students get help. One student heard these comments and went to the counslers and got help, sharing his story to our entire school. These people are incredibly brave and inspiring, and I appreciate them for doing this for everyone.
"we can be each other's why not" - PREACH
It's a shitty, poorly handled show, OK? Even worse that they put it on netflix where any kid can watch it. Yes, parents should monitor what their kids watch online but we all know they can't stand over their shoulder 24/7 and kids always find a way to see what they want. Sure, the show demonstrates how you shouldn't be mean and talk about people behind their backs and such (although it's effin 2017, did y'all not know that already?), but it was too risky to put out their for young, impressionable people to see. And don't say people against the show are being "overly sensitive" because when it comes to a person's life there's no such thing as over sensitive. Don't watch the show. You may think it doesn't directly make kids wanna kill themselves, but it's how what they're seeing is gonna affect them mentally as they grow. The creators of the show even talked to counsellors in an area where there was a suicide epidemic, and they were told how to handle the topic. Guess what? They did everything they were told NOT to do. Even the title itself "13 Reasons WHY" suggests that suicide can be justified and is the answer, and NO it never is the answer.
aww...bless u kids. bless u. Much love to u from South Lyon, Mi. I was bullied, and I pray for your strength to "deflect others hatred"..God bless you all
At my school on the bathroom stall says "Dumb Ass Bitch" don't just love reading those words when you have to use the restroom!
You see?! This DOES help people! It's encouraging kids who have felt that way to get help! And just by them sharing their stories helped other kids share their stories it's a never ending cycle, and a good one at that.
I applaud these kids for being so brave and doing such a wonderful thing at their school
Alexa is beautiful. i don't know what is there to bully about with regards to how she looks.
And all I'm saying is she is beautiful
sage 2 just because someone is pretty it down mean they can't be bullied. some bull put of jealousy
This show isnt glorifying nothing. NOTHING. This show shows everyone that it happens that it never going to go away unless we do something about it. Alot od times people cannot handle the truth about reality you cant blame reality becUse in the end it helps someone out there.
My church is now doing an outreach program for the issues from 13 reasons why. It's so nice
This show DOES NOT romanticize suicide. In fact this show made me not go through with suicide myself because I realized the aftermath of what happens
my best friend committed suicide 14 years ago when we were 18 and no matter what the people closest will have guilt whether we did enough or contributed in some way too it. I have tortured myself wondering what went wrong and that my friend was so sad she had to hang herself. I know there is controversy around the show but I loved it and respected how honest it was. Sure it hurts to talk about but most uncomfortable subjects do.
Megan would love this. I’m her cousin. I was 10 when she died and I had no clue why she did it or what suicide was. I found out 3 years ago why she did it when I had my suicide attempt. I had a tiny talk with her mom when I was at her house. I haven’t tried since. She was so heartbroken and I don’t want my family to feel like that. Someone will care if you leave. Be strong. It hurts so bad
I just don't understand why adults think the tv show is now giving us teens and younger the idea to commit suicide. It's not the tv show it the dumb bully at school and online that can't keep there mouth shut.. Fix that and maybe so many of us wouldn't die. This show help me cope with my suicide attempt and now it's like it never happened
0:42 she kinda looks like Hannah baker there
Maddy Slayyyz and that dude is darker is Alex
Riley and Jordan
I'm 10 years old and I love 13 reasons why cause in school I'm being bullied like Hannah Baker so I made tapes to explain how I'm felling and how am I gonna find a way to stop this ❤️📼🎤▶️💾❤️
I’m glad the show removed the scene of Hannah shuttling her wrists leaving the water in her bath with blood
I was apart of this project and guess what ... I got bullied and ignored trying to have my voice heard. I wasn't popular enough to share my experience that was still going on at this point. I kept getting told I was going to tell my story and they kept replacing me with new and better people. Gotta love Oxford
It's not glorifying it, it's just finally being spoken about openly.
I don't think it glorifies it so much, but it does put across suicide in such a bad way, showing it as a revenge plot, not at all linking it to mental illness, making her tapes blame people for her decision; other people can drive someone to suicide but it is ultimately their decision which is a hard thing to say but it's true.
E-J Thompson yes that was the main think that annoyed me about the show that it spend way to much time on the revenge plot and didn't mention how suicide is due to mental illness a lot of the time.
but that first girl is so beautiful what the hell! im so sad she feels this way
shouldn't be 14 reasons why not because there are more positives than negatives. they shouldn't be equal.
The purpose of the show was for awareness, not to make people kill themselves. Parents just get butt hurt because that's what they think of the show. I bet you after every kid watched that show they didn't even think of suicide.
I myself was diagnosed with depression, severe anxiety, and 3 suicide attempts before ... I don't think this show glorified suicide at all... after I watched it I realized how if my suicide attempts were successful... my death would have impacted more lives then I ever thought. I am grateful that I am still alive... honestly this show is just opening up opportunities to talk about topics that people aren't talking about
There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH 13 REASONS WHY
Suyeon Lee yes there is. It's call having opinions
Suyeon Lee there is
Yes there is. For one, it didn't show how you can deal with the problems. It didn't show any options other than suicide.
愛子キス the story shows someone who didn't get the help she needed that we know could have saved her. They use this lesson to teach others that you CAN make a difference in real life, and to not ignore symptoms, depression, and feelings like Hannah's. It's to show what can happen if you don't care and to raise awareness for suicide prevention
If you dealt with this type of thing everyday you would realize what a trigger it is!
#inspiring
I love the quote that parents need to take care of their kids and talk to them, prepare them for these things; not wholly blaming '13 Reasons,' even though these frontal concerns are legitimate, it ultimately comes down to the home life and core values.
I have suffered from depression for a long time and thought about suicide, and in my opinion watching 13 reasons why shows me, what could happen if I did, it shows me why not because of all the people I will leave behind and cause pain to and all the things I can do in the future and that pain is temporary but suicide is forever
I'm glad they're finally making this story. So many teens need to see this to know they're not alone. For those who think the story is too impressionable on kids, are short-sighted. Young people are much more intelligent than adults give them credit for. Families should watch the show.
Was there!!! Thought about dying a lot in HS and escalated in college. We need to talk about it mental health. Talking about suicide doesn't make someone more likely to kill themselves. Yes this show can be triggering so if you are on the brink don't watch the show better yet get help!!! I spoke at teen camp 4 years ago s haring my story in front of about 40 teens. I got feedback and people speaking to me all week. It was huge for me and them. Providing camp happens this summer it will be year 5 for me. I'm also doing a public speaking training and hope to get the message across to even more people.
This show is a wake up call for our society.
It's wild to me that this is popular in high schools now. I read the book in middle school ten years ago and I remember it being sad but similar to a lot of young adult fiction. It's inspiring controversy because it's visual maybe? I mean this content is very accessible. I know I felt comfort that I wasn't the only kid who was feeling hopeless at 13.
I think if anything it was showing you the ugly parts of suicide. Like what gets left behind of ones family, friends, community. Maybe people just weren't ready for something like that.
It doesn't glorify suicide it shows the true side of it without sugar coating it like other movies have done.
WOW, THANKS ABC FOR SHOWING ME THE 13 REASONS. wtf seriously spoiler, i was gonna watch that.
No Videos 1000 Subscribers still watch it, its a lot more then the reasons
I watched 13 Reasons Why and I don't get how people hate on it, it's trying to show young kids that suicide is something serious and there are always people around you who you can talk to. Just do what Hannah didn't do and talk about it with others and not commit suicide because there's always gonna be someone who cares about you.
ugh it annoys me that people are hating on the show and saying that it glamorizes suicide when it clearly doesn't. this is probably the most real show I've seen.
Me:can I have a pencil
Kid: nope not inless you say please
Me: welcome to your tape
Saying that the show "glorifies suicide" says more about your way of thinking more than anything.
I think the show kind of portrays suicide as revenge, when in real life suicide is never a way out
the show is about suicide awareness. and if people think that this show will cause even more suicides then those people obviously aren't right in the head. As a victim of bullying myself, I have to say that 13 reasons why helped me a lot. it showed me that I'm not the only one who has gone through this , how horrible kids can be, and how suicide is never the answer because you are not only hurting yourself but your also hurting others
I'm a teenager, and as a teenager, people won't kill themselves because of this show. It doesn't glorify suicide.
people are saying the show is glorifying suicide. the book has been out for so long already, you can't blame the show.
I wish this was at my school there is so bully up until recently i heard some one say go kill you some one. I wanted to help by telling a teacher but i was to scared. Later that day i decided to tell the office. their were police and an ambulance at the front. I ealked the stairs only to see blood and then i realized i was to late someone jumped of the stairs and died. Everyday i could imagine things being different. If only i went to a teacher i could of saved a life
see what this show has done! I love how there's so much controversy but if it weren't for the show, would these kids have even had the idea or inspiration to share their stories? it's great to see the good that's already been done.
I don't get it... people complain that there aren't enough shows talking about suicide, bullying ect. yet when there is a show about it they label it "glorifying" that topic. seriously no one can win. I hate this world.
I don't get why people think that people shouldn't watch the series. This is real life, people actually go through this stuff. I don't think it's glorifying suicide, it's just showing what people go through.
Again... Why can't we raise our children to be kind and show them that if they make fun of others or be mean that it hurts and can cause damage. Stop raising little assholes. I was bullied in high school, I was told I was a devil worshiper and many other things and ya, I considered suicide but fortunately I had a mom I was super close with. And I told her a lot of what I was going through at that time. I know, not even has that.
people just need to be warned and know that they are going them selves into this and know that this is a serious show
This show is a perfect example of what actually goes on in schools. Teachers know fuck all, and think everything is perfect. Nothing is perfect, and this show really allowed everyone to get an idea of what fucking goes on.
All of the issues in 13rw need to be heard, not ignored. This is the only show that is showing the reality and people saying not to watch it because it's too triggering or 'glorifying suicide' it's supposed to be triggering but it is definitely not glorifying suicide, it's teaching people about lots of different issues that are not being heard enough. These issues need a chance to be heard not ignored. So many people that haven't watched it are criticising it. If you get the chance, you should watch it and realise it's not anything bad.
I think it really showed what rape is and how it affects people. I feel most guys see rape as something that's just a casual thing that a girl will just get over but the show emphasized how both Hannah and Jessica were impacted and also on how violent the situations were.
I don't think it glorified it so much as it taught "if they kill themself it's your fault " they put all the blame on the people around Hannah and she was never given responsibility
What the guy said at the beginning that's me everyday when I wake up
It's not just High School. It continues into college for some people.
Tbh most of the credit for this show should go to the author of the book I mean he came up with the whole idea.
It's so hard to watch BUT now people are talking abt suicide, bullying and slut shaming.
Wait, what's the leading cause of death for 10-24 year olds.
Joy Manangan what you say is true. however, for me (i'm 30) i think the problem is that the show never really set up asking for mental help as an option. i mean she went to the counselor but he didn't help and in reality that would never ever happen. believe me you, teachers and counselors go through extensive training for dealing with those kinds of issues and they have to fill out incident reports when someone comes to them. that counselor wouldn't have been able to ignore her in real life and i would hate to think that actually ignoring a student is an option for some
bottom line, suicide doesn't end the chance of things getting worse, it only ends the chance of things getting better. please continue to love one another and ask for help when you need it. DON'T EVER BE ASHAMED TO ASK FOR HELP!
Did you read the book? I did. About 5yrs ago. And I think that everybody should watch it! And of course there should be a discution about It between people. I don't think or feel in anyway that they are "glorifying" suicide or that it was " suicide out of revenge". And I don't think it will push more kids to commit suicide. Just like talking about sex will not push more kids to do it! We need to stop being hypocrites as a society and talk openly about these issues. I loved the book ( the message behind It being: that it's an accumulaton of "bad things" pilled up that makes some people feel trapped in a never ending nightmare. Scared and confused) I think people are pointing fingers and missing the whole lesson we should all take from "13 reasons why", which is: BE NICE because yes: words can kill.....
Anyone who thinks this show doesnt glorify suicide has clearly never been suicidal. You can enjoy it, but at least admit that not everyone will be able to handle it
the show was a message about suicide. nobody needs to be triggered by this. it's a tv show
Maddy Logan it can be hard for depressed and/or suicidal kids to watch what they've been through, so that's what they mean by triggering
This is good 13 reasons is trying to show people what is going through and without that show this wouldn't of happened
i think ppl shud let their kids watch it. its something important to see how the hurtful things people say can affect someone. so what if its uncomfortable, its something real that happens.
What makes this suicide so appealing are all the tears and devastation that follows from peers. Thats what kids want. Sadly they dint realize after a week nobody in school will care about them anymore and they will just be a sad thing that happened and oh well lets move forward in the minds of other teens. Sad but true.
I hate how people say it glorifies it. It portrays the raw aspect of suicide, and you just want to ignore that's how it is? It was graphic and messy and terrifying for some. That show is nowhere near glorification of suicide. What they were saying about "she gets what she wants" pissed me off. Yes, she successfully completed suicide. You really everyone else who commits suicide "get what they want" too? That's how suicide works, and for you turning your kids away and not let then have exposure to things like this are the reason why people aren't educated on this subject
"There were notes on the wall saying you're beautiful you're strong" that would have been great if IT JUST WAS GRAFFITI ON THE WALL!
13 reasons why is one of the best shows ever
I dont get how people really think the show glorifies suicide.
I think kids should totally watch this, like from a young age. People have to get over getting offended by graphic language/content, because it'll teach a kid from a very very young age not to do that. The show while good, goes a bit far, but wasn't that the point? It's supposed to showcase the horrors of bullying and suicide.
MrGMovieReviews Or fuck them up. I mean how young are we talkin' here? Seven? Ten?
yes its triggering which is why they put the warnings before the episodes
Just a show c'mon people. I watch the vampire diaries doesn't mean I wana bite someones neck.
i find it funny how society is still being ignorant to the fact that bullying leads to suicide and they all just want to ignore it
I know what it's like to loose a friend to suicide but he wasn't bullied he was depressed he was only 20 when he died I remember the day he died my mom told me this won't be the last time that you'll loose a friend to suicide I don't live that far from where he was found my friend whose father is a retired state of Michigan police 👮🏻 officer discovered his car than ultimately he found my friend he was missing for 8 days I miss a lot!
Bless these kids
I agree that there are parts of the show that can trigger people, but there are of warnings and the age restriction is 16 years old I think, you should watch it on your own risk.
Hold up Michigan did something
HEY THATS MY SCHOOL
This is great!
That's why they have warnings before you watch it, if you are going to be triggered do not watch it!
" a lot to handle " 😂😂😂😂😂😂
glorified suicide, revenge? that is bull shit. people r afraid of the honesty this series has
isisdragoness1981 ok
1) glorify- to make something seem more ideal than it actually is
Let's look at how the show did that. The show used Hannah's tapes as vectors for promoting moralistic change. Like her death spurred guilt, regret and awareness. Portraying suicide as something that instigates people to "change" is making it more ideal than it actually is.
Further more the show didn't address the mental illness aspect of it at ALL. Being suicidal IS a mental illness. When a person is suicidal they have no hope left it's just complete and utter clinical depression. Hannah meanwhile was driven to the point of suicide yet had the time, energy and will to record 13 tapes calling all her high school classmates out followed by drawing a map for them and then after all that decided... ok now I'll kill myself. It's so juvenile in its portrayal of a complex mental issue, so yes that is making it more ideal than it actually is
2) revenge: the act of hurting or harming someone in return for a wrong doing faced at their hands.
Hannah: you made me feel insecure... now Its my turn to make you feel insecure. It doesn't get any more text book definition than that. The script almost cites the perfect example for the dictionary definition of revenge.
These scenes should be "hard to watch". That's part of what makes this show so great. Bullies don't ever get to see what it's like. This show actually shows it. There are warnings before the hard stuff so if you know you are going to be that triggered then don't watch it.