Parents of Michigan school shooter charged with involuntary manslaughter
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- čas přidán 4. 12. 2021
- James and Jennifer Crumbley were arrested on Saturday morning after failing to turn themselves in.
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Your son needed help not a gun!!
Absolutely ridiculous!! 🤦🏻♀️
But the gun DID solve the issue tho...
It’s not the gun fault, it’s the person behind the gun fault.
The parents have the nerve to plea not guilty.
@Tah BOO it's because everyone wants to blame guns
This kid literally wrote 'the thoughts won't stop-- help me' and these clowns did nothing
Dont forget alec baldwin actually killed someone and hasn't even been charged with anything
Parents refused to take him home. Wtf.
Imagine, after all that had happened, they chose to run and abandoned their jailed son.
Garbage Parents.
Huh?
I don't see that as abondoment at all.
There is nothing they can do to help him lol. He is going away for a long time.
And now they will to lol
Whats the point of "staying" for their son? It is unlikely he will ever walk free again. If I were his parents, I would've disowned him after he shot all those innocent kids and killed 4
@@FreekoTravis please don’t have children.
@@somnuswaltz5586 it was the parent’s fault.
It was only a matter of time the justice system was going to start holding parents accountable for their kid’s actions.
Man its gonna be crazy once they do this to parents in Atlanta Chicago and Detroit lmao.
It has been happening for a very long time, just not to those who are affluent.
@@2ingrams I was thinking the same thing. I live in Atlanta and I see parents that contribute to their kids evil and disrespectful behavior.
@@2ingrams only if parents give them weapons, you nazis immediately find racist cause in everything
@@eternaltruth52 I'm talking about America not Germany so not sure where nazis came into this buttercup.And after thinking more on this the majority of fathers in Chicago or Atlanta or Detroit dont normally stick around to raise their kids so they wouldn't have any worries now would they.
Imagine... Losing your child because irresponsible parents not only didn't want to bring their CHILD home after that incident but also bought him a weapon. I feel fury for all of those victims and families, I just cannot imagine how I would feel if it were my own 😔😔🥺🙏🙏🙏❤️
@Tah BOO oh my God dude, don't tell them that. They can't seem to see the parallels. And also something something protecting property Second Amendment rights something something.
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@Tah BOO right, I was making fun of them. Kyle had no business being there and certainly not with a gun that wasn't his. Why his parents weren't charged was surprising, especially since they charged the parents in this Michigan case.
@Tah BOO yeah I agree 100%. I genuinely feel bad for Kyle because I truly believe that his parents put him in that situation in the first place. He was 17 I believe when his incident went down. Humans don't really stop developing mentally until almost 25.
As we've both mentioned now, the entire night could have been avoided had he not been in a state that he didn't live in, trying to defend property that he didn't own. But that would have required at least competent parenting.
You also bring up a good point that Kyle had a right to defend himself, but how much of that need did he create because he had the gun?
Hopefully the kid realizes that he got a second chance and fixes his life. As for this Michigan school case, if the parents truly are guilty of their son's behavior and his gun access, then they of course should be found guilty.
But I worry about precedent being set where all of a sudden all parents are immediately responsible for everything that their teenage children do. Anyone with children knows that at a certain point, you don't really control that individual anymore. This could be dangerous territory legally.
The parents should not have brought that kid a gun as a gift if that's what happened or at least they should not have let him have access to it if they bought it for themselves. But in the final analysis the school could have prevented the deaths of those 4 kids. They had MANY resources to make sure that that kid did not go back to class that day whether the parents wanted him to or not. They are mandated reporters. They completely failed in their responsibility to keep those four kids that were killed safe while they were attending that school. That is their legal responsibility. And now they're trying to play defensive ball. The school superintendent blatantly lied right after the shooting in that public announcement saying that there was no indication that Ethan Crumbley posed any kind of threat. . Obviously there WAS because that was what the whole meeting was with his parents was about on the day of the shooting. And now the prosecutor is charging the child AND his parents but interestingly nothing is being said about the school's criminal negligence. Perhaps certain individuals at the school should be charged with "involuntary manslaughter" as well or at the very least criminal negligence. But no. Nothing. The principle of the school or whomever it was that made the final decision to allow that kid go back to class and not even search his backpack or get the police or child protective services involved should be going to jail as well. But the prosecutor says nothing about that. Perhaps because she just started that job and she doesn't want to make enemies with the with more power people than the Crumbley parents. They're a softer and safer target.
This is the first I heard of parents getting charged along with their child and its about time. They should have done this a long time ago
Why are they being charged though
@@aaronsmall6532 because they bought the kid a gun cause they are r3tarded
He is old enough to take his own charges. He stole the gun and pulled the trigger.
its incredible to me that the school allowed him back in class with all of this disturbing evidence that something was not right with this kid....and not searched for firearms... after telling the parents to get him counseling within 48 hrs
Yeah the school failed miserably. Public schools have been provided training and resources for trouble teens ever since Columbine happened. The prosecutor going after the parents is absolutely political, who has been running their mouth giving their feelings about the parents. It's incredibly unprofessional. It all makes sense once you know who funds these DAs and prosecutors. The parents can face civil charges, that's fine, but going after them with criminal charges is incredibly dangerous and will set precedent that will degrade the justice system even further. The school needs to face accountability for sure, their councilors are supposed to report this kind of behavior in the appropriate manner. They could have stopped this, the parents could have done something as well but they do not deserve criminal charges. Sadly most ignorant people don't understand this situation and all of the facts, especially the politically motivated charges which is completely against conduct for DAs and prosecutors. It's sick, especially when the corporate press is just as ignorant as their devout followers. They should be reporting on how these charges are completely unwarranted and potentially devastating to the legal system.
This same logic can be applied to parents who bought a car for their 16 year old girl, who ran over people at high school football game. People need to stop being tribal and call these S0r0s bought district attorneys and prosecutors. They all follow the same anti-Am3ricann agenda and want to destroy the good parts of the legal system. The Daily Mail just released an article about the devastating consequences of these S0r0s funded DAs and the prosecutors have intentionally caused across the country.
Its incredible to me that schools will allow kids to get bullied so often and viciously that kids shoot up schools.
Them kids deserved what they got.
@@kkhunt7 Stop making excuses for gun nuts. These parents were criminally negligent for not revealing that they had given their son a gun days before. That's insane. Should the school assume that all parents are narcissistic psychopaths? That could get ugly fast. The school is damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they had come down hard on the kid and he didn't have a gun (most children don't own guns) then the gun nuts in the right wing noise machine would have pilloried them for overreacting to a kid innocently showing interest in guns. That's especially true in Michigan, which is full of right wing gun nuts.
The parents were called to come get him but they refused to take him home !!!! Great parents right, they didn't give a rat's ass about their son!!!!!!
@@theresamcdonald4730 so what! My parents are garbage, state finally took me away from them for allowing me to almost die of starvation twice. That didn’t cause me to want to shoot up the school. The school is just as much responsible for protecting those other students, never mind letting this kid go home without trying to help him. They failed those other students miserable and the parents of this kid are going to pay the price for both the parents and the schools negligence.
Can't take $4,000 to jail with you why were you withdraw $4,000? To pay for your room and board that's very hospitable of you
Actually you can... It goes into your account and can be used for commissary.
They were trying to flee to canada 4k was there ride fare
They were just looking out for the tax payers lol
Of course you can. Many people who are arrested have large amounts of cash on them, like dealers and pimps.
The innocent children did not get time to flee. How dear, the parents are trying to flee all because they feared for their lives. Oh, please!
Any parents who thinks it’s a good idea to purchase a gun for their sons, they need to be held accountable for their actions.
This is why parents need to check up on their kids and make sure they are ok. Giving a clearly sad child a gun is extremely irresponsible and the child needs to be taken away from them.
It’s too late. They’ll all be in prison now. Tragic🤦🏽♀️
Don’t assume. Some parents are just pieces of 💩
Yeah the child will be taken away off to prison he goes for life. Good riddance
no actually this why some people really should not breed offspring if they clearly can't raise their kids right
Yeah, but kids lie... Anyone with any experience with a 15 year old will tell you that.
His father must have been dropped too many times as a baby, what a blockhead.
It’s part of this weird gun culture of the US.
They were definitely trying to flee
They could fled to Canada. The bridge to Canada isn’t that far and the metro airport is about 23 minutes away from Detroit
@@Whitneypyant They would never be able to get past that border.
@@Whitneypyant Cameras and tsa in airporst. They probably dont have passports either, so no canada or foreign country.
@The TacoCat truck you
Did they think their kid was after them next? What are they charged with?
Okay so the school says they told them to take their kid home and they refused. How many of you were told to take your kid home and refused, as if that's a thing you can do? In any other school system you don't have a right to refuse to take them when the school tells you to, they call the police. They gave them an option and are covering their own ass.
Not only that! The staff members in the meeting stated it would be ok for him to return to school.
They should’ve immediately contacted CPS and removed him.
@@stmarquies4377 the principal and the staff members should also be held accountable!
Good point
@@sherrikelly7588 imagine being so naive to think staff members who were literal victims of a school shooting are accountable for a deranged kids and his irresponsible dumb parents
The Crumbley parents were found in an art studio in Detroit which is less than a mile to the Canadian border...Of course, if they weren't vaccinated, they weren't going to get in to Canada anyway...
...The mother told their kid he needed to learn not to get caught...guess they should have learned the same thing themselves.
I love how they just say 'a warehouse in detroit' instead of 'less than a mile from the Canadian border with 4,000 dollars'
...guess they should have learned how to be better parents & then perhaps their emotionally damaged son would not have been turned into a disturbed KILLER.
Canada would have been a great place for them to run to. Give Canada all your money and then just sit back and wait for your free ride back to the U.S. Remember the Royal Canadian Mounties ALWAYS GET THEIR MAN.
Oh we weren’t running we were, just on our way to court by way of Canada with stash cash.
They all voted for Republican
Normally I would defend people who exercise their second amendment, but if they didn't keep their weapons in gun safe, then they ask for what ever is coming to them.
It wouldn't be very effective for home defense if it was kept in a safe.
@@kentconway5597 they make quick access safes for that, look them up.
I'm not a fan of fun safes, but with minors in the home, you have a point. There has to be millions of gun owners in this country though with loaded firearms all around their homes and the kids either never touch them, or they are very responsible with them. In either event, you're right, they are responsible.
@@aaron3705 I've seen them. They are not reliable or quick enough.
@@kentconway5597 Some are quicker than others... I have "layers" of protection that allow me plenty of time to unlock and load if need be. My property is fenced, LED motion lights everywhere, 3 Pittys and my Rotty. Deadbolted and alarmed solid wood doors, and my house is flood elevated so my first floor is 10 feet off the ground. Hell, up until last year, my guns were in storage, slept like a rock, right next to 180 pounds of teeth and muscle.
The right to own a gun has to be coupled with the responsibility to ensure that no harm should come from their possession. In this case the parents failed miserably to evaluate the the threat that a semi-automatic handgun posed to their own family and to innocent victims. They treated this highly lethal weapon as a toy to be given as a Christmas gift. They were excited and giddy about their purchase. They did not even consider what an emotionally immature 15 year old child might do with semi automatic weapon.
Really makes you think about again why laws have made possession of a pistol available to 21 year olds, as well as 18 year olds with long barrel firearms.
"The right to own a gun has to be coupled with the responsibility to ensure that no harm should come from their possession."
Legally, it already is, which is why they were charged (and rightfully so). This is the case unless, of course, you're an A-list celebrity who fails to assess the condition of your weapon on set and shoots someone dead - you'll never be charged with involuntary manslaughter in that instance.
I'd say an emotionally DISTURBED child due to BAD PARENTING.
'semi-automatic' has very little relevance, most ignorant people these days have no idea what a 'semi automatic' gun is or what that even means.
Most people don't buy guns to murder people, the number of murders from guns is on the lowest of the barrel.
people who do not secure their firearms are poor gun owners even within the gun community. No one would praise this. No one.
They will just claim Kyle's self defense
I'm not saying the parents are relieved of their responsibility , but the counselor should own part of the blame also.
Hindsight. Unless they knew his parents bought him a gun, I’m not sure you can blame the school.
@@bsktballman08 They search kids and their stuff for way less. The school failed as well.
Agreed, there should have been a mandatory cooling off period. He should have gone home with his parents that day.
The school should have contacted law enforcement authorities immediately after the “parents” refused to take their little goblin home.
How... how why do u say they should blame the counselor
The parents were on their way to give up, by way of Canada.
They just got confused with the google map directions...you know turning the map sideways and upside down sorta makes things look right when, in fact, they arent. So give them a break...bad parents, bad navigators....sorta goes all together.
Aaahhh - yes - with $4,000 in cash from their ATM!! Of course, if they're not vaccinated, Canada was NEVER going to allow them in.... Also, Canada would not reject any extradition request from the USA because they're only facing YEARS in prison....their charges don't have any death penalty attached. I guess these two idiots didn't think that far ahead......NO SURPRISE!
These sorry excuses for parents just send me up the wall!! All they planned on doing was to save their sorry carcasses; the hell with their son. As much as their son is totally screwed up, he is only 15. So he's facing life in prison, if not the death penalty ....and his parents get the heck out of town. I can't imagine how being abandoned must feel when you are in that much trouble.....
🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Look at the parents then look at the kid. Now tell me whst you see. The apple fell next to the tree. The cycle is complete .
Sad but true and now 4 lost souls 💔
They all have devilish looks and soulless blank stare...scarey
It's so simple & obvious that BAD PARENTING turns out BAD KIDS.
The parents of victims should sue the couple and the school district for not pulling him out after the threat
I agree that the school should have sent him home.
Lets see....the Crumbley's already drew out all they had in the bank - $4,000. So all 4 sets of parents sue and win and they can split the $4000 and each take home $1000 while they pay their attorneys $25,000 each. Well that makes sense. They'll get more if they sue the state board of education - the ultimate authority for what happens in any school in the state.
@@focused313 They tried, the parents refused to take him. The school is legally responsible for the child and cannot just kick him onto the street.
At this point who the hell cares about money?
@@annmariet67 the parents were told he wasn't a threat like they said councilors said he was fine. so what parents gonna pull their kid when their "fine" the parents got locked up for a crime they didn't commit. the school officials should be the ones charged not his parents. and there is certain rules set in place by previous school shootings that they can remove a child from the premesis or search his person or belongings which they didn't do for safety. the school is who caused this whole debacle.
Hope they are held fully accountable for aiding & abetting their son in his horrific act.
But did they??
Being a shitty parent doesn’t mean they’re responsible for his actions. I’m from WV, and here there’s just as many guns going to kids for Christmas as there are playstations and video games. I believe there were many factors and many missed opportunities to stop this before it happened and that not only falls on the parents. I don’t believe they broke any laws, but then again I’m not a lawyer or an expert
@@taylorprocker yeah and if those kids shoot you a school, whoever gave them those guns, should be arrested.
@CZcams Censors me!!! you’re a pathetic excuse for a human.
@@evan3744
He's still better than any democrap.
Hell yes, they did. Therefore, they are responsible for the death of those children. Their parents have blood on their hands. Why did they all do flee if they were innocent?
These lawyers are a trip. If they weren’t fleeing what were they doing, counselor??? Some good ol fashioned warehouse camping??? Stop pissing on our leg
Fleeing doesn't equal guilt
@@ronque23 The lawyers are going to try to make the case that they left town in fear for their lives and were attempting to turn themselves in.
@@Honestreview-om5hx guiltiness? Just...guilt.
@@Honestreview-om5hx No, but it doesn't equal innocence either. Innocent people have no reason to run. Guilty people do. But now they are guilty of evading a court order. If they'd really wanted to turn themselves in they had numerous opportunities to do so. But they had to be aprehended by law enforcement so their claims will be about as weak as overcooked spaghetti noodles.
Crappy parents but the school is there to protect all the other kids and they failed...big time. If you prosecute the parents then you have to prosecute the school for not protecting the other students.
the school will be sued civilly for sure, not criminally.
All parents with children who bring a gun to school should be held accountable and charged
If they buy him or her the weapon that caused it, yes.
@@loveforeignaccents Well they’re minors so of course the parents will have to buy the weapon
@@AttilatheThrilla Actually there numerous ways that a minor can legally acquire a gun without the knowledge of their parents. There is virtually no gun control anywhere in the United States.
@@ryancruz1876 there is in states like commiefornia and Illinois yet no shortage of them in the wrong hands.
@@ryancruz1876 what state do you live in? If you don’t mind me asking.
The Laundries are getting a hard run for worst parents of 2021.
Crumbleys"
"Does not happen again." With all the overlooked, excused & denied BAD PARENTING in the world, its bound to happen again & again since inadequate, harmful parenting is not likely to be addressed any time soon! Everyone knows that BAD PARENTING PRODUCES BAD KIDS but no one DARES TO CONFRONT IT!
Such a single factored argument
That's not how the world works, history has proven time and time again that good parents can produce absolute monsters.
@@levistinefeld1809 riiiiight...
And most of the people who drive intoxicated don’t drive head on into traffic and kill someone.
But of course, you’re far more likely to endanger people by getting into a vehicle while intoxicated.
Just like how bad parenting is far more likely to produce troubled youth.
They left there maga hats at home
Little parenting going on. It's just squat, drop and run, women giving birth to babies and seldom know who the father is. I work in an ER, so many patients pregnant with 4 kids in tow and no idea who any of their fathers are.
it wasnt bad parenting though? the school dropped the ball big time but they got out scot free and the parents are locked up for a crime they didn't commit
They are right where they belong.
So the left are fighting for no bail and less jail time for black and browns but whites…it’s open season.
@@ryanjones9498 This isn’t black or white. It’s common sense versus stupidity.
@@ryanjones9498 Fighting against the 2A gun fever thats destroying america. Weve once again proven that as a nation we are incapable of owning firearms without killing each other. Racist comment and im reporting you.
The parents got the gun for him they need to be held responsible for at the very least a part of it
By buying it for him. They might as well be pulling the trigger
The father bought the gun for himself. The parents wanted to teach their kid about firearms. The kid stole the gun. The kid is the only one who committed a crime.
@@triple_axel973 Nope.
@@r.d.9399 I thought that the mother said they bought it for their son as Christmas present?
Rd, even if it was the father's gun(it wasn't) they still made it possible for him to use. He shouldn't of been able to steal it.
His parents refused to take him home....
They need the hardest sentencing EVER!
Exactly. Mom texting “Ethan don’t don’t it” says it all
@@user-eh8yz6ko3t That after the father found out that the kid stole the gun. Timelines and the truth matter. The parents did nothing illegal. Their murderer kid is the only criminal here!
Biden 2024
@@user-eh8yz6ko3t Um.. so what does that mean to you? Don't do it?
@@r.d.9399 The school asked them to take him home because they were concerned about his mental health and they refused. The school told them they caught him looking at ammo on his phone and they were concerned he might do something and his parents just told him "don't get caught lol". They were giving a minor child a gun as a gift like it was a toy and not a tool or a weapon and kept it in an unsecure location. Then when it was apparent that they were in trouble, they chose to flee and abandon their child. If any of this isn't a crime, it should be. If they're not criminals, they're at the very least reprehensible irresponsible people.
His parents encourage him to kill. The kid should have been removed from his parents as they are both guilty for providing him with the worst scenario.
They encouraged him?
That what I think. He probably bought the gun just for his son to do the massacre. Bad bad upbringing.
The family that jails together, stays together. Dysfunction at its best
The prosecutor never said the parents encouraged him to do it. They bought him the gun. They knew he had access to that gun. The mother texted him and said "don't do it" so she had an inkling that the thought was there but they/she did nothing.
Yeah, I don't recall the prosecutor saying anything like that, either, and I think I've watched just about every news clip with her speaking. 🤔
Not trying to flee, yet hiding in a warehouse... 🤔
You are an expert on laws? No? Then why share your opinions?
@@0IIIIII You know that I'm not an expert on laws how exactly?
@@ArchangelExile your language is emotional and amateurish
@@0IIIIII How so?
@@ArchangelExile your use of emojis, baseless assumptions, and lack of professional experience or education
Charge their son as an adult. Lock him up for good, no one cares that he's a minor. He knew exactly what he was doing. Shame on his parents, they should have gotten their son serious help.
There is no way he would be charged as a minor otherwise he would be released by age of 21 says the prosecution, so life in prison is 100% guaranteed, now the question is whether his parents should be locked up with him
That POS enjoyed killing. He’s as demonic as his parents are
He is being charged as an adult.
So what was he doing?
@@phillipsmom6252 He isn't an adult.
It’s funny how their lawyers keep saying they didn’t know they were wanted? They knew they had an arraignment and missed it. Really? So why take $4K from the ATM AND FLEEING? WHY HIDE IN A VACANT WAREHOUSE? Get the F out. They provided their troubled son with a load gun and basically told him just don’t get caught. It doesn’t get any more serious than that. 🙄🙄
I don't recall ABC putting up any photos of Derrell Brooks, the career criminal who massacred 6 and injured 64 at a Christmas parade in Waukesha, Wisconsin.
Yep, another trash outlet. All of these dirtbags should have their faces on the screen, not just selectively for political gain.
With that being said, the parents are where they belong, but the difference in coverage is readily apparent
The GALL of the parents to whine about how the prosecution is putting them in a bad light. They know they ran, it’s extremely obvious. Innocent parents wouldn’t do what they did. They look just as disturbed as their son.
"Oh... That depiction of that gun, firing into that person's body, and spurting blood?
That's a video game I'm designing."
What in the f*ck?
They were hiding in that warehouse waiting for their ride to Canada. The bridge and tunnel to Canada are five minutes from that warehouse. It wasn’t hard to figure out what they were up to. The four grand was to pay for their ride……. I know, I should have been a detective. 👍
They left due to death threats online.
@@r.d.9399 yooo I didn't think stupid like this existed
It’s Canada not Russia.
Like we weren’t all waiting near the border with our eyes peeled..they wouldn’t have made it more than a block into our city. #nfa
In the words of Eminem, apparently they aren't parents. Any time there's a school shooting, the parents should be investigated. Along with the right to gun ownership (for adults, not 15 year olds), there is responsibility to secure the firearms.
No, the school should be investigated for not stopping bullying on campus. All the teachers and students should charged with involuntary manslaughter.
@@tbcstuff3634 has to be the dumbest thing I have read today, congrats
They were just expressing there 2nd amendment right ?
@@syednaqvi2740 Shocking a numbskull like you can even read.
We've never seen parents be charged or take accountability before for school shootings. This is unprecedented. School should be taken some responsibility for knowing this could happen before it did.
The parents literally armed him. The school didn't buy a gun for this psycho terrorist. The school knew about the drawing, not the gun.
I’ve been screaming this since it happened. This has never happened ever in US history for a school shooting and by doing this parents get ready to be charge for every little thing your child does from here on out maybe the state of Michigan can write a parenting Bible for you all Michigan fucking SUCKS!
What is wrong with these 2 parents having a gun not locked up.⚖⚖⚖
They actually bought it for him and 3 days later were shown a diabolical picture he drew and didn’t think to maybe take it from him or tell school officials he had it. 4 young lives lost 💔
This is what happens when someone who needed mental health care did not get it and acted on his thoughts. The fact that we cannot identify and treat people like this when it's obvious the kid is struggling. This is a failure on the health care system our gov and the parents. So many things went wrong here
YES! He should’ve got medical help asap
He had no previous record so idk. Although I did see a different kid say that the shooter was always sad so maybe there was something someone could have done.
But there is not always a sighn of something like this
That, buuuut, this is what happens with all of that, plus easy access to guns. America needs to change legislation and limit who’s allowed to have a gun. Clearly too many people are too irresponsible and not mentally sound enough to possess a gun. No responsible and mentally fit gun owner will have theirs taken away. So those people should also be in support of changing the legislation.
The parents are solely to blame.
Noo this is what happens with guns in schools. We have plenty of mentally ill in the grown up world. Starting with these parents. Let me guess " we need jesus back in schools!"?
20 years of prison food coming up!
I love black people making prison food
Nutraloaf every day!
I know it’s their job, but being the defense for those evil people must suck
She doesn't have to do it but has chosen that line of profession. She could have been a prosecutor.
My first week attending high school in the US, we had to evacuate cos someone wrote a note in the ladies bathroom saying there is a bomb set to go off at noon. About a month later another bomb threat was found in the same bathroom.
The school needs to be held accountable as well
True! Very True!!
This is what I'm trying to figure out how the hell did the lawyer speak to them if their phones are off
It was all set up and they knew.
I don’t think they should be charged
you're crazy 🤪 🤪
@@SUGAR_XYLER I don’t know the whole story but maybe you have. Peace
Now being a parent is also a crime now .
Like father like son like mother
Gun ownership should be a privilege for those who can prove that they are law abiding, not a right for criminals.
You mean kyle Rittenhouse
@@chinmoydeb8241 Why? That rifle is perfectly legal in Wisconsin...and so said the liberal Democrat appointed judge in the case... Don't like it? Change the laws....or at least become familiar with the ones you don't understand. The law doesn't care about your emotional health.
@@eredinbreaccglas3935 Kyle is innocent, get over it
@@treeherder2201 Slavery used to be legal too. Doesn't make it right.
@R That judge was a joke
Since when did ATMS start allowing you to withdraw $4000??
I don't understand what the parents did to need a half million dollar bail.
I haven’t heard a single person accuse them of “encouraging” him to do this.
Because they didn't. They were shitty parents but they never told him to do it.
It was most certainly implied.
Their lawyer implied at their arraignment that they were being accused of that.
Glad to hear it. They aided their son in those murders.
The parents should at least get 15 years. Because of their stupidity four families will never see, speak or touch their love ones
There really are some very incompetent people in positions of authority…….this was completely avoidable.
“They weren’t trying to flee”
yeah because everyone withdraws $4000 from their account and just disappears 🙄
Lawyer fees
Parent (Dad) bought the gun as a gift for son evidently and then mom goes to target practice with him ( she has a gun as well) commenting on this in her social media acct. then kid goes to school with gun, so evidently it's his gun, he's searching for ammo while in school, so parents know he has gun allows him to carry it , where ever. He's 15 years old, a minor and allows him to take gun to school and mom tells him don't get caught looking for ammo. C'mon, something wrong with those parents, maybe that's why kid is messed up.
like rottenhouses and his mom same thing and he got away with it. Now this kid thought he could also, probably.
Apples don't come from banana trees. Kids are a product of their genes and their environment. Who controls each of those?
@@truth4004 if you don't see the different between Rittenhouse situation and this kid, can't help you. Rittenhouse was clearly defending himself,should he have gone there,probably not. This kid went with intention to harm and got help by getting a gun gift from his parents unfortunately.
@@Rx_Bluegrass ....what?! genes?! 🙄
Now they can think about it in jail for 25 years
The prosecutor has no case on the parents.
Oh, bye fool 👋 👋
The authorities claim they won't be telling Ethan anything that's happened to his parents. The cowardly little putz will be wondering why his mommy daddy aren't visiting him... lol... You know they're all just gonna be blaming each other for everything that's happened. Ethan clearly thought life sucked and people deserved to die for it. Wait till he experiences prison. Then he'll realize just how great he had it before he flushed it all away.
Hope Ethan likes dong!
When you have the right to buy a weapon; that makes you accountable under all policies and law when someone use that weapon to murder or injury!!
Unless it was stolen..
@@kentconway5597 Read the Government policies and laws you buy a weapon; that weapon must be registered within your county or city, and secured with trigger lock or locked in weapon safe!! If it's stolen that means you didn't secure that weapon..
@@kentconway5597 Don’t be a stupid idiot and read the facts of this case
@@jaijohnson4603 Actually, neither of those are true.
@@jaijohnson4603 Even with a gun lock, that doesn't prevent theft and is nothing a saw or bolt cutters couldn't deal with
our kids are dying because of corporations and idiots
Councilors need to learn to read body language to see if the patient is lying cuz they let him back into class & missed how depressed & stressed out he is
The school needs to be charged also! They knew about this issue, and they did nothing.
The school did not know his parents purchased a firearm for their son. Should schools start keeping track of all students whose households have firearms? That could be beneficial for the school who suspect a student is having serious issues that could harm themselves or others.
The school should have said “ hey would you happen to be one of those pieces of 💩 parents that would buy your mentally disturbed child a gun and not say anything?” Mom then texts child “Ethan don’t do it”
Yeah nothing to see there
I just cannot imagine what kind of parents would buy a gun for a troubled youth like THIS!?! Blows my mind! So sad! Prayers up to all the victims and families!😭😢😰☹️😓😲😭😭😩😨
Imagine it because there are a lot more out there than just these two who are trying to be their kids Pals and buddies instead of their parents
It's clear to me they were trying to get rid of him and it backfired on them !
@@thegreatbamboozler4837 as old as the kid was its nothing weird man. the thing is they didn't know he was disturbed either. this is such an overreach by them. wth you cant charge them they didn't do the crime. its just rediculous
@@dragonblade3808 we charge bars and bartenders for giving more alcohol to peopke who are already drunk....and clearly they knew there was something wrong with "junior" when the mother was texting "Don't do it!" I'm pro 2nd amendment and I'll admit that these two are culpable.
@@thegreatbamboozler4837 we dont charge bartenders for overserving we charge them for serving underage get your facts straight. second they didn't know he wasn't ok till they figured out the gun was gone because like mentioned several councilors said he was perfectly fine to return to class. i mean jesus how more straight forward does it have to be that the school is who screwed up not the parents.
The family that preys together, stays together.
This doesnt make sense.unless they purposely gave him and gun and told him to commit this crime how can you blame the parents?
Parents didn't pull the trigger or encourage their son to go on a murder spree. Its not illegal to not have a firearm properly stored so this is wrongful conviction on the parents part.
They wanted to get rid of that brat and it backfired on them !
First of all there is no conviction yet, but there will be. There is more to it than these morons not securing the gun.
@@hopehart I see your point but overall it's the person who pulled the gun right? So even if the parents were dumb and most likely abusive to their son doesn't necessarily mean they should be in jail.
What would you do if you were the parents of this child? Be honest?
Why wouldn't one be honest?
I would have taken him immediately to be mentally evaluated after the school meeting and kept 90 days…
He would not have had the freedom to kill.. But of course I WOULD NEVER HAVE BOUGHT HIM A GUN..
@Sgt Beep Boop Yeah and yet all black kids are bad right??? Shut your Columbine mouth.
Flee like Brian laundrie, make the law enforcement chase after me like a wild goose chase with my old parents pointing the wrong directions. Me staying alive as long as possible then kill myself.
He is the product of the parents. Why, she's just like the mother who drove her teenager next door to Wisconsin to shoot BLM protesters with his glorified pellet gun. This is a culture. Those parents don't care, possibly loath,thier fellow citizens,why wouldn't thier child do the same? Like half this country,they hate!
Why not this attention with the Texas black teen high school shooter ?He was released on bail and media is quiet on that story .
This happened over a 2 day period. Teacher saw him searching for ammunition on one day, the next day he drew a disturbing picture and went on a shooting spree. So, this all happened fast and there is no history of mental illness, at least not yet.
Everyone wants to see the parents go down, but the facts we know suggest they were blindsided by this as well. There isn’t a history other than 2 days.
And as far as running, the parents attorney’s said they were in constant contact with them. We will see how that plays out.
I only bring this up because people need to be careful buying into media reporting. We will learn more as more facts are released to the public.
It boggles my mind how everyone is always on a witch hunt without seeing the facts. Why did they not want to pick up their son? Was it because they tried to get help and were turned away? What’s the circumstances for them buying a gun? What did the school know and ignore?
I’m still confused may someone please tell me why they arrested the parents and maybe I could get a better understanding
Same here, what did they do?
@@funglewadsprite5890 Ok, WHY were there warrants out for the parents arrest? WHAT did the parents do other than be bad mentors?
@@eckankar7756 Involuntary manslaughter for supplying their kid with a gun and failing to inform the school that he had a gun and was a potential danger.
@@dansanger5340 Ok, that makes sense.
@@dansanger5340 these parents appear to be POC but what you described isn’t illegal.
Looking at their photos and since their adamant Trump supporters I would surmise that the last name Crumbley was given to both BEFORE marriage.
FOX news is already making room for these two to be their new pundits.
Who buys a 15 year old a gun who’s got issues or not wow
Could of possibly been different if the kid had some positive people making him feel special
That’s what’s wrong with this generation of kids. To much coddling and spoiling by parents. Always need to feel special. Not holding them responsible to anything. Give them anything they want and ask for. That’s why kids nowadays can’t understand hardships, persistence, patience and tolerance of others. This is what it has done.
😂🤣 wow, can't believe some parents are being accountable for their child.
It should be the same everywhere..like all our inner cities included with teens with guns shooting each other n innocent bystanders..enough is enough...lets hope every parent who has a teen with a gun and or in a gang that does not call the cops on them themselves or become emancipated from the child if he is out of hand are PROSECUTED as these two idiot parents are..enough is enough...parents need to TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY
About time @Chico Too Legit
Parents should be accountable more then 15 year old kid
It's a dog and pony show.
@@jasonscott6174 your LOST MAN..lost..as teens walks our liberal cities with hanguns BLOWING each other away along with INNOCENT BYSTANDERS..i feel sorry that you have been INFLUENCED by certain narratives the MAINSTREAM MEDIA pushes without truly seeing the ENTIRE PROBLEM..i cant blame you since you have beem force fed garbage from these outlets..i switched sides 4years ago..BEST THING...
Charge those who ignored the signs as well….
People.... Please raise your children with love...
Teacher and friends that knew should have talked about this child . Was he bullied at school so much of that. My kids were bullied in school its trauma to them.😪
I hope the Oakland County prosecutor adds charges of obstruction or aiding and abetting to the involuntary manslaughter charges.
@CZcams Censors me!!! If that's the case, I suppose our Oakland County sheriff is, too. Soft on criminals fleeing from justice?
Kids who act out or act improperly in school should be removed from school and given the help they need. Period. Schools are not institutions created for psychiatric care nor are schools a place to "park your child" while you work.
How are they even given bail as an option?! Either they tried to flee and are a flight risk or they sought to stay safe from threats and should be allowed to defend themselves to the fullest extent of the law.
What you think is a good punishment for the people let Darrell Brooks out of jail? Remember Darrel Brooks killed 6 people in Waukesha
@@alozano10241975 my opinion doesn't really matter, I'm pointing out a contradiction in the application of the law. You can't say that someone has proven to be a flight risk who has attempted to evade capture, and then also say that it's OK to release them until trial because you're sure that they won't flee.
@@cakefete2 well I pray to GOD if you got kids or nephews they never commit any crime because for your standards you will pay your kids crime looks than you are open the option to shoot yourself in the foot
@@alozano10241975 I'm starting to think you don't understand my argument. Prosecution says they were fleeing capture, if that's true, then they are a flight risk. If you're going to offer them bail, then you have to clear their name of the accusation that they were actively evading capture. The offer of bail is typically contingent on the belief that you will return for trial.
@@cakefete2 Jajajaja!🤣🤣🤣 of course If I was the criminal terrorist parent I would do the same try to hide First time in history the corrupt system go after parents for crime they've never committed. And yes of course is parent negligence but that is not a consider a crime
that is good. All parents that do not tell the police or pay attention to their children should be at fault as well.
I think that all parents that own guns and their kids commit a crime with it should be charged, even the parents of Timothy Simpkins.
I got a .22 rifle for Christmas when I was 7 years old. I wanted a magic set to be like Dr Bombay.
Serves them right. For them to not be found for 15 hours and then finally found and arrested, that’s suspicious already, despite their lawyer claiming they are “not fleeing from authorities.”
They're probably fleeing out of fear, they didn't kill anyone at the school. And they probably feel those charges will be brought down on them.
@@TJ-fe7rr NO, they didn't kill anyone, but they assisted. you don't have to pull the trigger to be guilty. The same charge could be brought against them if he'd taken the car and run over 11 people. The same charge could be brought against them if the neighbor kid fell into their pool and drowned because they didn't lock the gate. It's not always WHAT you do. Sometimes it is What you DIDN"T do.
@@Rx_BluegrassI see what you're trying to do. None of your examples hold equal weight.
They knew their son had gun at school. They knew their son can shoot at school. And they did nothing. They risked other students' lives. They must face the harshest penalty possible for mass murder.
They didn’t just know he had access to a gun, they bought it for him
Winners raising a winner. Hope they all win the same prizes.
Imagine your one job is to raise 1 kid
You had one job! Now their son is a murderer & in prison.
May those 4 students that were lost too soon Rest In Peace 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Let's hope they stay in the same jail, and never get to see or hear each other, even from a distance.
That prosecutor is always smirking in every single video I've ever seen her in. She gets off on playing God. Her name Karen definitely fits her.
I don't really think so. I think she's doing her job. She may not be very good at the on-camera presence because this may be her first really big case to prosecute and she lacks experience in front of the camera...but I'll tell you, this lady knows her law and her job.
For a case like this we absolutely need a Karen
You gun nuts really get upset when a fellow gun nut gets held accountable for their misbehavior, don't you?
Please keep your misogyny and lack of critical thinking to yourself. Perhaps a word document would suffice?
They should be charged and held accountable.
This is the biggest load of donkey crap I've seen surrounding one of these incidents ever in my life.