Square Enix Games is SCREWED...
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Square Enix has revised its approach to PC and console game development, and absorbed ¥22.1 billion (approx $140.9 million) in what it calls “content abandonment losses.”
In a warning to the investment community, the Japanese company said it would recognise the extraordinary loss for the fiscal year ended March 2024.
This is the result of a change in approach to Square Enix’s development of what it calls HD video games (PC and console, as opposed to mobile and MMO). In its note, the company said it wants to be “more selective and focused in the allocation of development resources”, and as a result of the “close examination” of its development pipeline with this in mind, is taking the multi-million dollar loss. Square Enix did not name the canceled or rescoped in-development titles. - Hry
It's time to break that glass case that says "In Case of Emergency, Re-Release Chrono Trigger" . . .
EDIT: I'm well aware of the legal nightmare it might be. Also, I did say "re-release" and *not* "remake."
ABSOLUTELY 💯! I WANT TO SEE A NEW AGE CHRONO TRIGGER BADLY!
Remake please
No. The talent that made that game was lightning in a bottle. They would screw it up. Just leave it be.
@@Justin-dp7pg I don't even think they need to remake it. They would just need to port it and it would sell well.
@@moonjellykevin agreed. Maybe a port or slight graphical overhaul like they did with Star Ocean 2. The one time Square Enix actually touched this game they added an end game dungeon with a bunch of garbage fetch quests. The beauty of the base game is that every single side quest had meaning and could change outcomes in the main story. Square these days only knows how to do fetch quest crap. Even FF Rebirth, as much as i enjoyed it, is loaded with tons of pointless fetch quests. I doubt they could make any positive changes to a game as amazing as Chrono Trigger.
Forspoken was a disaster for them. Spent millions making it and it flopped massively
Nah
Sweet baby inc death touch
@@Scitch-et4vknah what?
I thought that crap was an Ubisoft game 😭
that game not even deserve to be spoken
Having one good poop a day is better than having lots of watered-down ones.
SE needs to adopt the same philosophy for game development.
FAX
True
Sometimes that 1 poop be hard as a rock and you be hoping for a couple few watery ones.
Bootyhole tore straight up.
💩 Great toilet analogy.
Well, time to add season pass, NFT, block chain, battle pass, mtx, loot boxes, LIVE SERVICE to every single SE games.
Remember, their CEO still believe in NFT....
Yeah idk when square got on the greed train
The reason we get this shit is because players are more negative than ever. Core gamers are a fraction of the industry despite being the most vocal online. Most players play a couple games a year, shit like COD, Fortnite, 2K, Fifa, and so on. Always in the top 10 on PSN. Sony’s first party IP’s, which are already extremely safe, only sell to a fraction of players as well. Take Ragnarok which at the time set records for Sony for selling 2.5 mill copies it’s first week. It was cross gen, so this is out of what, 200 million PS4’s and PS5’s in the wild? So 1 percent of console owners? That is crazy small.
But even when we finally get the rare game made for niche audiences with fan service like a Dragon’s Dogma or Stellar Blade, their own target market burns those IP’s to the ground for any hint of a semblance of an infraction. Lol. DD2 is honestly a miracle to have even been made. A triple A sequel to a cult classic that sold like shit at launch a decade ago. Unheard of these days. Or Stellar Blade, an unashamed hot girl action title. Both of those IP’s, dead. You think Sony wants to deal with that IP again after the vitriol? Days Gone sold 10 mill copies but players spit on it at launch because IGN said so and then wonder without a hint of irony why Sony hasn’t made DG2. It’s wild. They crapped all over Arkham Knight and Origins and wonder why WB made a live service game instead of another one. Or will another dev take a lesser known fan favorite and make a sequel years and years later with no indication the market wants it after DD2 was boycotted and driven into the dirt by it’s own playerbase? Yet when the type games people do complain about release, it’s met with a shrug and a ‘eh same shit everytime game sucks’ and move on. But it’s people not buying those games to begin with as well and Assassin’s Creed’s own audience doesn’t burn down the IP for mtx. Lol. So yah, no real surprise the industry is going this way. And honestly gamers get what they deserve on this one. Every game made for gamers has been pitchfork mobbed to death, lol, for the tiniest of perceived infractions despite doing everything else right. So here we are. And that shit is getting old to be honest.
@@mandrews6282 As a "core gamer" this is the cold hard truth. I'm guessing most of this demographic will move exclusively to indie games in the future or even leave gaming altogether. It's not feasible to make games for core gamers in the long run unfortunately.
This will make them lose more
@@mandrews6282people just won't take shit anymore and say thanks. Which is often a good thing or else we'd have the shittiest monetization already. But I must say i havent even read about many outcries you mentioned.
I don't think spending $200M+ (apparently the estimated cost for Rebirth) is needed on even the best games. Budgets are so out of control. Not every game needs bleeding edge AAA assets, celebrity voice-actors, and absolutely absurd marketing campaign expenses.
They had one celebrity in the game, and they can use some AI to cut down on the cost but people will whine.
The problem is that that’s what players expect now from a FF and would shit on them if it didn’t live up to that AAA standard
Yet the game looked terrible on performance mode.
@@extra4542what gamers expect from Final Fantasy?
Considering the base of gamers that buy every Final Fantasy game is diminishing year after year, I would argue that doing what their shrinking fanbase wants is partially what's killing them.
That, and tying themselves to PlayStation. Square Enix is killing itself for PlayStation's sake, and it's sad. Pathetically sad.
Who's estimating the cost? People are pulling numbers out their ass.
i just hope that square enix can finish the ff7 trilogy before bankrupt...
With an estimated cost of 200 million to make Rebirth, I wouldn't hold your breath or at the very least it will it be scaled back heavily
@@ChunkyKitKat87 I would say that there is a 99% chance that the third and final part of the FF7 trilogy comes out. However, as you said, it will be scaled back heavily. They will most likely heavily reuse assets from Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth and the remake of Crisis Core (which has some of the locations which will be in the final portion of the FF7 trilogy) to finish things up.
Don't worry unkle phil will buy them 😂
@Wonkasimpson699 don't cry 😢 it's ok u don't buy games besides 3rd party games and unlce phil going to save square from the mess they have with playstation
@Wonkasimpson699 when did I lile my own comment 🤡
The truth is that it hurts me to see Square Enix in this situation, they were the developers of my favorite video games; but it's also understandable when you see that they spent a fortune on crap like "ForSpoken".
It is also true that they missed a "golden opportunity" with Final Fantasy VII REBIRTH, it is a very good game to be an exclusive for PS5 for a year.
Forspoken cost $100 million to make. That's not a fortune nor the reason why SE is in a hole. SE just keeps making games to cater to a demographic that doesn't actually buy their games (western yt males). Since FF13, they've ditched the turn-based identity of FF and gradually turned it into an action game, completely alienating their Japanese fans.
Not only Forspoken, but the entire studio AND engine behind it.
Forspoken is a good game. You guys are just followers. Whatever youtubers say, you guys follow.
@@dejuanhickman3175 nah, I've just been playing video games for a long time and I can recognize when a product is made with care and when it's not; It was obvious at first glance that the developer did not have very high expectations for "For Spoken".
rebirth isnt a good game.. neither is remake
Why ?
Why do these companies keep borrowing billions, from Blackrock & friends, even when they spend , eg, 80 millions on a game, and make 700 or 800 millions ? Why ?
There's one single reason, for that. It's called:
Shareholders
A studio that spends 100 millions in a game, then, makes 600..700 or 900 millions, that studio should then have enough cash, to 'stay afloat' , and to spend another 2 or 3 years developing a new game, with those un hundreds of m millions they have made, right ?
WRONG
The leeches, the vultures called shareholders, and the admin board, they swallow ALL the money... over and over and over... and that studio finds itself having to borrow more and more money, that, of course, will have to reimburse.
And because those vultures always want more and more money, games must have ebb more microtransactions, more season passes, more skins, more everything!
Let's say Days Gone sold 8 million copies. Even if the studio only made 30 bucks on each sale, that's 250 millions. Well, 250 millions, should have been more than enough, to make days gone 2, + a new title. But no !
Yesterday, shareholders wanted some game to make 700 millions in the first 48 hours. Then, another game must make 950 millions. Then, 1.2 billions. Then... 1.4 billions.
At that pace, one day, a game will make 2.5 billions in the first 48 hours, instead of 2.6 billions, and the shareholders will call it a major flop, and the studio will have to fire 1000, 2000.. or 3000 employees!
Money, money and more money.
And just like we all know, anything those capital/hedge/investment/ venture companies do touch, ends up dying.
The moment those blackrock & friends started approaching the gaming studios and publishers, by 2007, when they noticed games like candy crush were making hundreds of millions on iphone, it was basically OVER.
Is just a matter of 1 or 2 years, before another crash.
Video games are about love, passion, devotion.... when we add greed to the recipe, it's over.
Some ceo just farted ? Bam, 2000 employees must be fired. A game only made 600 millions, instead of 650 ? 900 employees must be fired. Some game dlc didn't sell enough copies ? 500 employees must be fired !
These investors, like blackrock, have absolutely no problems, no scruples, no moral, no respect, no remorses, whatsoever, with firing 2000...5000.. or even ALL employees, and completely shut down a company ! They absolutely don't give 2 fuks about that.
Although this is a hard read because of the brain rot of the writer. The message is 999999999% accurate.
Greed is killing these companies.
And many shareholders are too dumb to understand that the quarantine made the industry have a big boost, yet their dumb predictions don’t account for this surplus.
And the idiots who think constant growth is the root of capitalism are actually idiots who don’t understand the art of trade.
Congrats. You just describe one of the down side of capitalism
Eventually the money will run out. i.e. you can't keep spending other peoples money forever.
And blackrock and those companies force the companies to use DEI and diversify which never works out well
The problem isn't in the shareholders, it is in the COs.
All i want is a new NieR game
*"So, let me get this straight. I’m somewhere that’s not what I would call Earth…I’m seeing freaking dragons, and…oh yeah, I’m talking to a cuff!"* 😬😬😬
“A fucking cuff”
Remember, by adding in the word “fucking” it makes the game mature
Millennial Writing actually lost Square millions
Square Enix report: we release too many flop games, they all barely sell 500k copies. We should change our strategy
People: haha its because of Final Fantasy sony exclusivity
People are really stupid. On Xbox gamepass is money loss for them and has a really small install base and for pc they seems to have a hard time optimizing giving people scuffed af ports. The flops have really not helped and ff7 being made into 3 part was a mistake as each has diminishing returns
I own PS5 and Xbox. A lot of the loss will be because they only release on one platform you’re targeting a limited audience. Sony lost 10 billion last year because there games cost so much to make and don’t recoup the cost. PC is where the money is at Microsoft realised that and Sony have now too their games are going to PC a lot sooner and probably will day and days very soon.
Yknow no one is saying they’re mutually exclusive. It’s all of those things
@@inuclearpickle8628to sell games on Xbox. You first need to release games on the platform. Other than Final Fantasy 13 trilogy, 15, Kingdom Hearts 3 & lately Final Fantasy 14. Xbox support has either been Microsoft payed for 2-4 year old games to Games Pass, fans speculating if they will ever will come to Xbox & disappointment of low budget sub brands releasing with little support.
Why would anyone on Xbox support that kind of business model.
@@bradleylea8460Sony's stock dropped 10 billion they didn't lose 10 billion in cash and that was because their console sales forecast were too high and their profits dipped 4% but that was just for the playstation division but Sony's profits as a whole actually increased.
Serves them right for their hubris of thinking they could change and tamper with the ff7 story
Secretly Square Enix in love with Ubisoft releasing 1000 games every 6 months
Star ocean 2 a very niche series sold really well and it wasn’t an exclusive it caught SE by surprise… exclusives are not cutting it nowadays.
I don’t understand why we haven’t had a chrono trigger re release… that will sell more than FF7 reunion
Well 2 is the best of the franchise.
Square ruined themselves. No ponies, no xbots, just square. They have made mistakes that are hurting them.
Getting FFXVI and FFVII: Rebirth within a year of each other is INSANE.
I love all the stuff they're releasing but they really could scale back the amount of releases and be just fine.
Gamers say release cadence too slow then they say it's too fast. Make up your mind
@@victory7763isnt a problem for me. Im just not a big Square enix or FF fan. FF16 was my first and it made me a fan of just 16 not the others.
Not really insane when they're created by two different teams. Also, CBU3 (the devs for FF16) deservedly get to make a game for themselves considering how much money they've generated for Square Enix because of the critically acclaimed FFXIV.
both games were absolute garbage too
@@humbleservant7797 16 was a huge deviation. The entirety of FF VII is pure gold
Honestly over console wars, it's helping noone, I love Square Enix, but console exclusivity is archaic and dumb, release games everywhere
@Wonkasimpson699It’s not about being cheap, PlayStation exclusivity is factually not working. 16 and VIIR are great games but they didn’t sell what they should because they are confined to PS5. They need to make a Game Pass deal with Xbox and release on PC alongside PlayStation.
Amen
Absolutely, Switch and Xbox players can tap into them that way
Nostalgia can only go so far.
back in the 2010s Capcom was in the same situation and look at them now. Square can turn it around but they need to act now
They will have to start putting final fantasy on other systems like xbox and pc in order to cover more sales
Xbox, 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Won't work. It's not on gamepass, it flops
@davidvillamarin-lj2pf I am not pro Xbox saying this. My point is that if square wants the games to reach a bigger audience they need to stop exclusivity with Sony and start making the games for all systems. Makes logical sense for sales
On Xbox lol Final Fantasy XV barely sold any copies on Xbox compared to PS4. PC for sure though
@@Sergeofsocalpc is xbox. That's what you don't realize and why microsoft are dominating. Xbox hasn't been just xbox for a long while now, it's xbox/PC
@@psvitaoled197 you bring so much shame to the PS Vita name with comments like this.
It’s because they are stretching a game that should have been one game into 3 freaking games
Square needs to start charging Sony more for their exclusivity deals 🤷🏻♂️
It's not weird at all why Forspoken got advertised so much ... lol
Maybe them hopping in bed with Sony wasn’t the best idea after all
🤣
I don’t think they were the issue more like a lot of really bad investments like bunch of forgettable games, NFTs, forspoken, and avengers
@@inuclearpickle8628 Doesn't help though does it? They can recover some of that money by releasing all of these timed exclusives on the other 2 major platforms.
Nope. Sony's money is the only thing keeping Square's head above water. The dev costs of all those PS5 exclusives were massively subsidized by Sony.
Their sales on Xbox have never been good and Nintendo ain't going to hand them hundreds of millions of dollars for exclusives. Taking Sony's money was the best choice available to Square.
@@inuclearpickle8628 i mean both 16 and Rebirth had way few sales than they were expecting yet review well. i def think them dickriding Sony has limited their market a lot
Yea, that's what it is. Not them turning FF into an action game to cater to American gamers.
PS console exclisivity is the blame . PS5 doesn't have same engagement as the PS4. Squares biggest titles should be day Multi console and PC day one
Exclusives sell consoles. All the consoles I have bought since Intellivision have been because of exclusives.
So you are saying that all the other games that are multi plat are huge success ? if FF7 was on pc day 1 , squares expectation would be 10 times over ,sales in not the issue, its the expectetion that the company has and the pis poor managment.
@@leon6257 I will put it like this. Square enix will never sign an exclusive deal with Sony again
@darkcity2004 They already signed another deal.
Sonys money is whats keeping the company afloat, take away the money Sony gives then and the company tanks even further
Ya'll need to quit being welfare gamers and actually buy games and buy the console of any eco system for the Games that are on the platform.
@@darkcity2004Good..PS users are not gonna pay $70 3rd time on a freaking DLC
...while Stellar Blade 1 million in 24 hours..but please cope harder
PS5 ONLY MOVEMENT is what caused this disaster of sales.
PS5 playerbase is way LESS compared to Xbox One/S/ONE X/PS4/PS4 Slim/PS4 Pro.
Should of planned the entire Trilogy on PS4 and Released on Xbox Aswell.
With options to upgrade to PS5 Versions in the future, if you upgrade to that console later.
Slapping a middle part of a trilogy on a completely different system was a mistake, expecially when the older consoles playerbase is millions more than the PS5.
And then saying the next one will most likely be released on the PS6 will also be a mistake.
Remember Diofield Chronicle? Yeah, neither does the internet.
Blame Sony
Blame bad financial decisions and leave your pathetic little console war out of this
@@JGr2000 Yes they should make deal with Xbox and release all of their games on Xbox platform.
@@travelstar241if they made a deal with xbox it would more than likely include pc. They actually would probably do better. SONY are the ones who want to lock the games to their system.
@@psvitaoled197No one on Xbox buy it, it would sell less than it already has because the first thing you xbox gamers ask for is, "is it on gamepass, if it's not on gamepass, I'm not buying it" Ya'll are conditioned to not buy games, or as I like to call Ya'll, welfare gamers, wanting more without having to pay.
They bought exclusivity for a console a lot of people don't own.
I'm sure once it hits PC they'll get some of the sales they're hoping for.
There are plenty of games from square enix and others that I want, but it's usually an affordability issue where I have to wait for a sale or put off on buying a certain game till I'm able to afford it.
$70 price tag didn’t help. Not many games feel worth it to me. Only Zelda TotK did for me
@@teneleven2818okay!!! Even the games I’m interested in playing I procrastinate cause I just don’t wanna spend 70 dollars. I feel like that’s alot of us it’s really ghetto out here fr. I started tapping into waiting for sales also
i’m going to help square enix by buying final fantasy rebirth, your welcome square, i saved the company
inflation is hitting everything hard even video games
Just make good games. That simple.
Honestly they did that to them self putting their games only on playstation when they can be selling them everywere. 🤷
The only games these days that can afford to remain console exclusive are on Nintendo. That's because they have a rabid and loyal fanbase that buys all there first party titles. Everyone else (Sony, Microsoft) should be releasing everywhere. No cap
@@christopherbrooks4426 true
@@christopherbrooks44263rd party games yes, 1st party is a discussion to be had but no 3rd party game should be exclusive
The main problem is the money, Sony is spending its money in the FF7 Remake (game and marketing) and ppl expect Sony will let SquareEnix put that game multiplatform when XBOX / PC didnt spent a single dollar like Sony did, if we want new FF games multiplatform first day, Square must stop asking for money to other videogames companies to be able to make their AAA games.
Also Nintendo was doing exactly the same as square for 7 years, making 12 games each year (new games, remaster, remakes, ports,etc.) idk maybe is how Nintendo sells their games, but square is doing things wrong, by how things are going maybe Sony will buy Square, they are always together.
Stay in school reading this gave me a headache
“I collect games, of course…” Yeah, but you don’t actually play them, and when you do it’s for 3 hours on easy.
Lol and you are basing that on absolutely nothing... Good job.
Why are you so bothered? And then here you are? Waiting time commenting? 😂
Perhaps Square Enix should abandon the exclusivity deals they sign with Sony and release all their games EVERYWHERE... just a thought.
Sony is literally the only thing keeping them afloat
Maybe Square as Capcom they both need to stop embracing woke agenda, if they want sales.
@@Scitch-et4vk super cap. Put it on pc and xbox too.
As a ps5 ownerI agree with this
@@Scitch-et4vkBull Crap.
Ff7 to be on Xbox soon
The writing was on the wall a very long time ago
No more PlayStation exclusives they learned their lesson…
Hope we get all the Final Fantasy remakes still 😂
they must cancel the sony deal. all the time i played ff7 i was wondering how much this costs, must be an insane budget and you skip 3 platforms ( xbsx, pc and soon switch 2 )
You clearly dont have a clue what are you talking about.
It’s a shitty deal but most of their audience for FF is on that platform. Switch can’t run rebirth and switch2 will most likely only get part 1. FF15 sold horribly on Xbox and PC sales for FF haven’t been huge outside of FF14(mmo players).
Rebirth was never gonna sell as well since it’s a direct sequel that needs part 1 and there’s controversial changes that alienated potential buyers.
The check probably made up for Xbox and pc launch sales.
Well say goodbye to 2D-HD remakes and remasters. Such a bummer man
I imagine they base marketing on the production cost, rather than doing actual market analysis to see what’s worth marketing (or making)
I will give Nintendo credit for one thing. They do a good job of keeping the development budget for their games more reasonable.
Nintendo has been in business a long time and when they have a big game it does what most these game developers wish they could do in sales
You can do that when your games still look like GameCube games and have I run on a last Gen power system.
How do you expect to sell games that are exclusive to one platform?they deserve everything that's coming to them
Well sure that could be part of it considering ff was releasing mutiple games mutiplatform but some exclusives can sell don't mistake that. But dreamcast guy brought up a good point with the lack of advertisement. But wanted to put more to advertise like forspoken
@@raf686not even a good point.
FF7 Rebirth did have heavy marketing.
With the “Twin Pack” at preorder reveal. The story trailer 2 months before release. And finally paying every publisher to have high scores TLOU2/Alan Wake 2 style. Cause with some brains it’s easy to see “reviews” as a marketing tool that you need to pay for instead of a review.
@josetomascamposrobledano4618 the marketing was almost near close to release. Plenty of games out there that market hard core and better than this. Also you forget final fantasy at a time was not just ps. Also please take into account that square made so many games that imo they oversaturated themselves considering many of the said games did not make profit.
At 5:10 ......can someone tell me what game is that...??
Octopath Traveler 2
@@OhWell914 thanks.
@@Panosole No problem!
We still haven’t heard any news about Dragon Quest 3 HD-2D remake.
Pony's should start supporting the dev's and buy games
I don’t buy Rebirth but not apologizing for it. Spitting one game into 3 is scummy as fuck
@@jeffn4836 If each of those 3 games feel like complete experiences just how exactly is that "scummy as fuck"?. There is PLENTY of practices that could be considered scummy nowadays in the gaming industry, and this one isn't one of those.
@@jeffn4836Are you stupid? Lol
@@OhWell914the hell with that sheep with clouded eyes.
Not seeing how scummy it is to cut the game into a trilogy which is a perfect definition of greed shows your inability to detect a bad deal.
The fact you can’t see it is giving the Xbot OP a win. Cause you’re proving there are PS users who are mindless consumers.
@@josetomascamposrobledano4618 Easy with the insults there keyboard warrior, my point was that if I buy one of the 3 games and I get 130 hours worth out of it I don't see how I'm being scammed, there is a lot worse practices out there is what I'm saying.
Maybe learn to talk to others without spewing bile everywhere first.
Skipping other platforms was a bad idea.
Microsoft does it too. Skipping other platforms is a bad 👎 idea 💡.
@@shanestevick679yeah but the difference is they aren’t making backroom deals like Square does with Sony, no third party developed games should be exclusive
@@fenrirsfolly92 Microsoft are the ones who started these types of deals. They had times exclusives for COD DLC during the 360 and one of the tomb raider games was exclusive for a full year.
They created this stupid game, they're just upset they're losing it now. Like how they refused cross console gameplay when they were ahead with the 360, then complained when sony refused it during the ps4 when they were ahead.
@@mbern4530 ok and? I called out the bs then too but they didn’t do it anywhere near to the scale as Sony with damn near every other game, also are u really complaining about a year timed exclusive cuz when Sony does it they keep it for years he’ll Kena is just now getting ready for a port to Xbox and lets not forget FF7 remake was supposed to be timed exclusive but then they went and made more deals and people wonder why they’re hemorrhaging $$$
Also if they decided to really play the game bidding practice, they’d put Sony out of business, but my goodness fucking Sony fanboys would go nuts if they started really doing what Sony does
So here’s the bottom line: Either decrease the budgets or make the games multiplat, Square. You can’t have it both ways. Oh and enough with the live service games and then throw a tantrum when people say “No”.
Exclusivity is really crippling the sales potential of their large budget FF titles. They would be idiots to repeat the same mistake for part 3
It is said Rise of Ronin sales are doing really great. Never expected it to sell more than Rebirth. 😮
FF just has to many cutscenes and plays to much like a movie for an average user. Since games are expensive ppl buy the gameplay 1st.
@Neerano I enjoyed FF7 Rebirth, but not as much as Remake. I felt like some of the changes were a bit disappointing.
The acting/writing in the FF remakes is insufferable.
Yes, FFXVI on the other hand is excelente in that regard. I hate how FFVIIR feels like a KH game story/acting and narrative wise.
@@azulionJust admit you ain’t played a KH game. FFVII Rebirth lines up with themes present throughout the series. Fighting fate is present in so many entries, especially 13. If anything it’s more like FF8.
@@josephbuchanan2319 it's not the theme, it's how it's executed. I know even FFX it's about fighting fate even tho they don't literally say it every 5 minutes like in XIII. I was a fan of KH since the PS2 era, but with time you start to realize how dumb and stupid it's direction, story, narrative and acting is every game where Nomura is involved.
You can tell Nomura has influence in a game the same way you can tell when Hideo Kojima, Miyazaki or even Yoshi P are involved in any game. And for that, FF Rebirth and later KH games a pretty much alike.
Also, at this point multiverses/timelines plots are getting annoying af...
Dude, SE made a lot of bad decisions and garnered bad press. They are no longer so beloved. Take me for example. I used to love their games but no more.
Rebirth is the greatest game of all time
I still love FFXIV, even now as it's still going, but that's more so because I trust CBU3 than Square Enix themselves.
They should have not sold off dues ex and actually made a new sequel.
To that guy on X asking if length matters, as a Kingdom Hearts fan I don't want to play a short game. And if it's going to be $70, I definitely want it to be worth the price.
Sony is making Square Enix sink deeper. The main problem is the exclusive shit they have been doing for Playstation! You release Final Fantasy and make it exclusive to one platform then expect profits??? Gone the days gamers would buy a console for one game! I will not buy any game that is not coming to PC.
There’s a cycle here SE develops game for ps because of backroom deals, sales not great and money starts to dry up, release to pc gain more to get next project going, and repeat.
That initial money boost for not releasing on other platforms is good at first but ultimately just keeps them in an infinite loop that will eventually be their downfall
@fenrirsfolly92 That's what Sony does to them until the company becomes entirely bankrupt; then maybe they buy them dirt cheap!
@@h.a.6060 yup sounds about right
Square Enix is doing better with Sony than Tango and Arkane are with microsoft 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@@h.a.6060 Don't you xbots every sick of spouting complete delusion?
1. Remove Tetsuya Nomura from all projects 2. Fire Tetsuya Nomura 3. Release DQ3-Remake
4 you shut up.
And remove Chadley from part 3.
Most of the final fantasy fans have already left from the PlayStation 5 console and they're not coming back because square enix don't know how to make a final fantasy game anymore
Star ocean 2 a very niche series sold really well and it wasn’t an exclusive it caught SE by surprise… exclusives are not cutting it nowadays
It would be fun to have a nice, civil conversation about this in the comments, but console fanboys won’t let that happen because they can’t let their biases go
The majority of gamers couldn't hold a civil and intelligent conversation to saves their lives.
@@wooley2629 true
Says the console fanboy
I say good. Ff7 remake was so disappointing. All they had to change was nothing from the original game, just updated graphics. Instead it's completely different and boring. I haven't played pt2 yet since I play on a real computer. Do they think releasing it only on Playstation is going to make me buy one? Lol. I'm not wasting my money on already obsolete hardware that I can't upgrade. I'll wait 10 years till it's emulated on pc. It wouldn't be the first time lol.
I preordered rebirth and Uninstalled it after 20 hours and sold it on Craigslist for 50 buck... it is a boring slog and was massively overrated and disappointing
Couldn't disagree more. One of my all time favorite games
@Wonkasimpson699 didn't like my own comment.
Let me guess? your favorite games are Fortnight and Madden
@Wonkasimpson699 yes wanting good games that Don't completely suck is the problem sure nancy...
I wonder if some of it is because not everyone jumped the ship from ps4 to ps5 yet.
I promise no dev is asking if RT is worth it lol. That stuff is sooo much faster and easier to implement than any other illumination or reflection tech. We're just not quite where it can be the standard yet, but it will be the go to in years to come
GOOD. make different shit. let final fantasy take a hiatus.
Even though I love FF, I think you are right.
Hot take but FF sucks and relies on nostalgia to lure its fan base into buying it year after year
@@jacobross735no it doesn’t FF7 remake was genuinely good especially rebirth now 16 i didnt really like but a lot of others like it. I do think it’s very scummy to put FF7 remake into parts instead of just doing the whole game. And to say it comes out “year after year “ is wild since most of the games takes 8 year breaks before making another one💀
The Final Fantasy series isn’t the reason they lost money, it’s their other games that bombed.
@@jackluffy7914 you’re talking about the mainline games. There are literally over 100 games and they do come out year after year
Evidently Sony gamers only complain about console wars, games going to pc and Xbox games instead of buying there own games , supporting the Devs and playing them. 🤷♂️
Who Knew.....
~This is a Slightly Deeper Look~ from A 3 - 4 year perspective
The only games keeping SE afloat and allowing them to fund other projects are Final Fantasy XIV, Final Fantasy XI, The FF Remsater series and FF7 Remake first part.
Games we want that could actually save SE: Dragon Quest X another mmo, Mother 3, A Good Star Ocean, A Good Valkyrie Profile or remake, Final Fantasy Tactics 2, A Good Mana sequel, Remake Chrono Trigger or Make a Sequel.
Things Killing the Company: No proper PC releases, Console Exclusive
I am unique in that I buy 2 copies of almost every SE release due to PC and Console Exclusivity which lately has caused me to dodge titles altogether or wait for sales because of the mediocrity of games with flashy CG, repetitive gameplay, bland stories and no replayability.
Out of all the current games the only ones worth buying to ME were: FF7RB, FF7RI, OT2, SO2R, TOR , BDII, TriS and FF Pixel R series counting as 1 game due to packaging & price
Games I could do without or wait for sale: SO6, Harvestella, Forspoken, Outriders, DioField Chronicle, Guardians, Valkyrie Elyisum, Various Daylife they have to try to give away now, DQ Treasure, Infinity Strash DQ Adevnture, FF16
That's 8 out of 17+ games in the last 3 years. If you follow SE's history they have a cycle of making bad games to the verge of bankruptcy, then by a stroke of luck, genius or finally listening to reason from consumers, create a game that turns them around. Seems like even if they make a game to save them now exclusivity is going to be the Final notch in the noose to Finally hang themselves in the Fantasy RPG business.
Stop putting y’all games just on PlayStation
That’s no the problem
Nope
when they go bankrupt then theyll learn. fuck em. i hope creative business division 3 which runs FF14 and 16 break away from SQEX if they sink
@camusacuario628 actually it is part of the problem among others esepcially for a franshise that has released mutilplatforms plenty of times before
Exclusives sell consoles.
If for 20 years you have done nothing but destroy the reputation of Final Fantasy with bad games, can anyone be surprised by the sales disaster of this company? and that's just talking about Final Fantasy.
I am a fan of OG Final Fantasy 7 and after finishing Rebirth I have no intention of buying the third part of this trilogy or any game made by Squarenix again, I am totally against the Remake/Sequel/Multiverse approach they have given to Final Fantasy 7.
the developers of Final Fantasy 7 Remake/Rebirth fails to understand that the major franchises that are in flames right now are in flames because the "sequel, prequel, extended material, etc" affect the view of the OG, Every canonically linked media always retroactively inserts stuff into the OG and changes stuff, especially stakesand, but the worst creates division among fans between those who do not like the changes and those who do like it.
I mean, atleast Remake/Rebirth is better than Advent Children.
Basically they turned video games into the movies.
@@PinkMawile In my opinion NOTHING about the compilation has been good.
$200 million to develop REBIRTH? Uh, THAT might be one of the major issues, including poor project management. Recall how it had taken Square Enix nearly three years to develop the LOGO for one of their games? Too, giving too much authority and oversight to ONE group of individuals might also herald a future spectacular downfall, as well. Moreover, consider Bethesda: when Todd Howard had been a game designer, etc. their quality had remained pretty stellar. Now that Howard remains as CEO of Bethesda, 'wut happened'? /smh
Is this the sony gaming division only or sony the whole company?
I suspect that only 30-40 year olds (mostly) care about Final Fantasy 7....and a large percentage of those folks now have families and just don't have as much time (even within the last 4 years) and all they wanted was a faithful Remake of the OG so they bask in its nostalgia. Most fans didn't want a three-part multiverse project....I'm loving it though.
Making games for nostalgia is a recipe for LAME.
People who play games for nostalgia are posers and dead weight on the industry, driving its stagnation.
@@Synathidy “Posers” like being a “real gamer” means anything. It’s just entertainment. If it doesn’t entertain you then don’t play it.
Square enix is stupid.
yeap
I did think in the Covid Era 2022 they released too many JRPGs back to back which effectively hampered their own sales because honestly who would buy that many considering the genre is niche as it is. I think it’s a good move overall. People are getting picky with games because A. they don’t have the time to invest B. Price C. Development costs
They need to expand their genres too - have farming games, platform jumping games something fresh in between that’s fun but not costly and stick it on the switch. They can create great games just need more variation and quality and all set.
SE could do no ads and their fans would still find them I believe.
SONY are to blame for stopping them selling there games on other consoles
Stupid comment, even if they were sold on other consoles, it doesn't mean there sell
The options for FF7 rebirth and 16 at least were pretty limited. Switch isn’t powerful enough and nobody bought FF15 on Xbox(9% of sales).
They’ll do a pc port but even those sales figures for the FF franchise haven’t been huge outside of FF14(mostly MMO players, not FF fans). Most FF fans that were interested are already on a Sony platform and the story decisions turned away another portion of buyers
Nope
@@CruxisAngel954 nobody bought ff15 because it was a load of crap, there is also other titles like star ocean and dragon quest games that never made it to xbox to name a few. Squre enix decided to to sell only on playstation and now they are paying the price for it.
@@GodGoggsFF15 sold over 10 million copies thanks to PS4 and PC. It barely sold on Xbox because Xbox gamers don’t play JRPGs. The 360 had many great JRPGs but they mostly bombed. Dragon Quest XI is on Xbox. The newest Star Ocean game is also on Xbox.
Maybe... FF7 Remake and Rebirth were not what EVERYONE wanted?
Thanks for your detailed explanations, always a good insight with you in the gaming development world.
Leon
In Australia we pay $120 all most for a AAA games
Have you heard of gamepass ?
@@ICon-sy7goyou know some people want to own their games i know its a scary thought in 2024😂
@@pumpkinpie1509 going broke is scarier 💀
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I'd buy FF7 on my Xbox or Switch but Square Enix refuse to sell it to me. 🤷♂️
Xbox sure, but Switch couldn't run FF7 rebirth
That's the problem. Sony exclusives
Yeah right sure you will smh
4:26 my boy corrected that fast af
if this is a write-off they must disclose what is being written off. So we should know. Unless the laws there are different and they can just say “Trust us, we will not release or use any of the secret work”.
Welp. That’s what you get when you take the core elements that made ff 7 great like it’s edginess, and make it into a woke kingdom hearts spinoff with a remake tag attached to it.
We fans wanted a FFVII Remake. They who own the IP said no, Lets make it a game as a service, change the whooooooooooooooooole F game and pretended we will buy it anyways.
No one cared about FF16, no one wants Devil May Cry gameplay.
You Drramcastguy said it was OK, it was great...
I bought them both day one and absolutely hated the games... I'm done with final fantasy
They changed FF7 to a games as a service? Wow y’all are just friggen stupid lol
"No one wants DMC gameplay". Nice opinion. Never knew the style of gameplay affected the quality of the game.
@@tacituskillgore7437 That's fine. Imma play FFXIV, as that's a game I can always rely on in the series at present.
@@mcihay246 that's the only one I've never played is it any good? And is it good as a single player experience?
I just found this week on youtube that triangle strategy and tactics ogre reborn even exist. Bought both of them in the next couple of days. Some advertisement would be nice so I could actually find that they even exist.
Ubisoft is next. They will have this type of news in next few yrs.
Square should just make Sleeping Dogs 2. That would probably cover it.
The first game is more a cult classic and not popular enough to get them the big bucks.
Time to put your shit on Xbox.
Why it won't sell that shit won't help at all
Especially since gamers on Xbox hardly buy games now due to gamepass
Xbox isn’t worth its cost as gamepass isn’t sustainable for AAA releases. Pc is worth it and they are porting their games over
Let's not forget that Sony PAYS a load of money for the exclusivity of SE games. Besides, the exclusive ones ara the minority of their games. So It doesn't make any Sense that SE would agree to that whithout knowing the risk of It 🤔
It still blows my mind in Square/Enix decided to release FFVII Rebirth less than a year after Final Fantasy XVI, What were they thinking!?
Make Deus Ex Remaster.
Make Final Fantasy VII-2.
Denounce Sweet Baby Inc.
Print money.
They don’t own Deus Ex.
They sold Deus Ex to Embracer a while back.
@@americasteam2112 Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
Honestly I’m not sad. Their games have been straight garbage the last few years. Let them learn the hard way.
They should have kept mainline Final Fantasy games turn based with game play similar to FF 10 and below. Ever since FF13 the series took a dive. Some people blame it on 13’s linearity but the fact you can only control one character during battle sucked for turn based game with so many characters.
Square Enix says people don’t like turn based but so many series prove otherwise
The only thing holding SE together is Yoshi P…
ff16 under him not doing well either
@@coldogno7FF16 sold millions, and has two dlc. How is that not doing well?
@@coldogno7 Also, I think you're forgetting or are ignorant of FFXIV which is also under Yoshi-P. Which is one of the games keeping Square Enix afloat due to the consistent cash coming in. Definitely going to get a lot of money very soon by Dawntrail's release due to the influx of returning players.
I’m a share holder. I get to see sales results. Square Enix games DO NOT SELL WELL on Xbox. And they only do meh on PC. The problem with SE is a failure to market properly and a failure to maintain past fans. They aren’t advertising games that could make a quick turnaround, and the games they are marketing they either make poorly (stranger of paradise, and Forspoken) or they assume they know better than Sakaguchi and do a JJ Abrams style reboot trilogy, rather than a faithful revival of the game people were asking for. FFVII went so far as to anticipate blowback and pre-attacked it with its stupid whispers nonsense, so they KNEW financial failure was a risk, and did it anyway.
This is on them. Not Sony. People bitching about exclusivity are coping and seething, because XSX has sold only a small fraction of what Nintendo and Sony have, and that’s why they aren’t getting games at all. Nobody wants to make games for a platform with flatlined sales.
PS, Nintendo and PC should be SE’s focus.
The only one who knows what they are doing is Yoshida by pleasing the fans of Ffxiv
@@inuclearpickle8628 Damn right he is. But Dawntrail is going to be very nerve-wracking, as it has to set up new foundations after the Hydaelyn/Zodiark Arc is effectively over. If Dawntrail doesn't go well, then SE as a whole would definitely be in trouble.
Hahahaha! Rebirth bombed. Us “purists” and “whispers” warned that they shouldn’t stray from the original. This is what Nomura gets for loading the game with Kingdom Hearts and JJ Abrams style reboot garbage. I know they’re saying budget cuts for part, but I hope it gets cancelled.
Yeah people should plat the original, because it's not the same game. The changed major parts of the story and I think the 3rd part is going to have some major changes in story
@@zerobob8586 I have never played the original FF7 game, so i don't have the nostalgia for it, but loved the remake, and is probably in my top 5 games all time. I do plan to play the original FF7 game at some point after I finish Rebirth since I plan to play through all the mainline games.
@@belgianbull4722 you can play the original at anytime, I would recommend it before Crisis Core. The orginal is a must play so you can see what the changed in the remake series,
The first game is Canon to the remake they both are happening in different timelines.
I didn't like the original, so had/have no interest in the remakes. However I do see that lots of people enjoy them. Don't see why you'd be hating on them, I mean no one's making you buy or play the newer versions.
Too many licensing cost in everything these days they better go back to people reading text and go back to more fun simple games and also release them on all platforms, xbox did it and they're picking up
Square Enix is my favorite game developer. I don’t think they are that screwed. I’m sure the games they are letting go are some of the rushed double A games that no one really wanted and the crappy mobile games that don’t matter to most people. We don’t really need those. I’m sure stuff on the level of like the Bravely Default series and the Star Ocean 2 Remake are safe. I also think a lot of their HD2D games are safe as well, I’ve seen a lot of talk around those.
Square Enix's losses is a huge win.
FF7 Rebirth- Flopped
Forspoken- Flopped
The DioField Chronicle- Flopped
Stranger in Paradise Final Fantasy Origin- Flopped
NEO The World Ends with You- Flopped
ActRaiser Renaissance- Flopped
Harvestella- Flopped
All Square is doing is literally using any money they make back from their failures just to milk the Final Fantasy 7 remake games and for the next Kingdom Hearts. Square chasing trends, taking risks and westernizing their games, going woke, and turning everything into an "action RPG" is why they have been failing badly. They have lost their fans, lost their Japanese spark, and keeping their games true to their roots. Them wanting to "improve the quality of their games" isn't going to help when they keep making unrealistic expectations. No matter what excuses they say, the end result for them will just be more of the same. Plus, they keep getting yanked at the neck by Sony's dog leash.
Now that’s a hot take if I have ever seen one.
Rebirth is one of the highest rated FF games ever made both from the press and players it’s got nothing to do with Rebirth.
Square Enix are just releasing to many average games on the side and way too many ports of older games ! They should just focus on FF and KH and bring a publisher and stop releasing 10x games per year that are mostly re releases of older games on different platforms and they should get out of the mobile business completely at least internationally.