The Football Manager Hunted by the Stasi

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  • čas přidán 12. 09. 2024

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  • @filiptalimdzioski7281
    @filiptalimdzioski7281 Před 4 lety +266

    East and West Germany originally appeared on the Athletic.

  • @fam4868
    @fam4868 Před 4 lety +146

    We need a film of this

    • @er-1311
      @er-1311 Před 4 lety +29

      FAM This film originally appeared on The Athletic

    • @samuraisoul1043
      @samuraisoul1043 Před 4 lety

      There is a film about the stasi called the lives of others a German film seen it years ago it was ok . More of a drama than action film .

    • @pbjbagel
      @pbjbagel Před 4 lety +4

      @@samuraisoul1043 The Lives of Others is a great film and won Best Foreign Film at the 2007 Academy Awards. It's not really about the Stasi themselves, but about living in an environment with them. It is definitely a drama. Just like how this video more resembles a drama more than an action film.

    • @TheAthleticFCPodcast
      @TheAthleticFCPodcast Před 4 lety +1

      @@samuraisoul1043 One of the great films..

  • @MisterSpinalzo
    @MisterSpinalzo Před 4 lety +24

    you could make an entire episode just on how Berger saved Frankfurt from relegation in 1999. Shit was balls. Also Berger essentially build the Schalke team that won the UEFA-Cup in 1997 under Huub Stevens.

  • @fearsomestm00c0w
    @fearsomestm00c0w Před 4 lety +218

    These stories are so interesting. Football framed by history.

    • @pbjbagel
      @pbjbagel Před 4 lety +7

      I think you mean "history framed by football."

    • @swaggraic7282
      @swaggraic7282 Před 4 lety

      @@pbjbagel hahaha

  • @MaxisMaximal
    @MaxisMaximal Před 3 lety +7

    I know Ron from my childhood, he was camping in the 80s in Prerow East Germany every summer like my family did.
    We played often volleyball and football together at the beach.
    He's a great guy.

  • @olafweiske6132
    @olafweiske6132 Před 3 lety +6

    as someone who was still born in gdr (1986) and is a historian, i really appreachiate this video, especially the story of ron.

  • @devaughnjay
    @devaughnjay Před 4 lety +51

    Great video by Tifo from Ralph’s article. Sometimes you can only appreciate some football careers/personalities by some of the wider social and political context that they inhabit.

  • @pellejohansen
    @pellejohansen Před 4 lety +39

    The Stasi originally spyed on you in the Athletic

  • @pmacca4830
    @pmacca4830 Před 3 lety +2

    Heart breaking watch that...His lad facing all those prejudices an not knowing his own Father,growing up....

  • @jgv2699
    @jgv2699 Před 4 lety +15

    Funny, this semester i had a teacher in economics who grow up in East Germany, lol.
    Now seriously, i wish Tifo football could do more videos about football in East Germany, specially about the BFC Dynamo, who was the powerhouse of East Germany those days, about every player that defected, every player and coaches who worked for the Stasi as an informant(Torstein Gutschow, for example), and etc....

  • @karannsyt
    @karannsyt Před 4 lety +164

    The language you're reading originally appeared on the athletic.

    • @Jayfive276
      @Jayfive276 Před 4 lety +11

      Karan Sreedhar would you people just fuck off with this shit? So they always announce the story is from a website, big fucking deal.
      You people are like toddlers. Anything repeated more than once has you giggling like fucking mongs.

    • @karannsyt
      @karannsyt Před 4 lety +16

      @@Jayfive276 what's the issue big guy? Just have a laugh why are you so mad?
      The athletic is amazing and i read stories from there all the time. And it's nice to see the video. It sounds like you who has got the problem.

    • @mcseedat
      @mcseedat Před 4 lety +1

      @@Jayfive276 chill out dude. Chill the Fuck out. It's called a meme.

    • @aidenfrost10
      @aidenfrost10 Před 4 lety +1

      @@mcseedat which is kinda getting old. I remember when a lot of viewers first started mocking Tifo for partnering up with Athletic which is absolutely uncalled for.

    • @trtvitor5837
      @trtvitor5837 Před 4 lety

      @@aidenfrost10 its not mocking, more just teasing. No one really has a problem with it ,its just messing around in the comments. Theres nothing wrong with that.

  • @the_luggage
    @the_luggage Před 4 lety +1

    This is heart-breaking. It beggars belief what horrid things some people will do for power, ideals and religion...

  • @Iceforfree
    @Iceforfree Před 4 lety +10

    Really compelling story, great stuff

    • @mcseedat
      @mcseedat Před 4 lety +1

      It originally appeared in the Atlantic

  • @FountainOfYoot
    @FountainOfYoot Před 4 lety +7

    Tifo and The Athletic expose the humanity behind the professionals that are mostly considered commodities. Compelling story, and maybe one day I may subscribe to The Athletic.

  • @AkhiDeia
    @AkhiDeia Před 4 lety +6

    Stasi originally appeared on The Athletic

  • @sauravbhowmick1468
    @sauravbhowmick1468 Před 4 lety +10

    Jorg Berger.... the german Sam allardyce !!

    • @farfan97
      @farfan97 Před 4 lety +3

      Berger was way better

  • @nishanthashok1188
    @nishanthashok1188 Před 4 lety +133

    This comment originally appeared on The Athletic.

    • @kepasuarez3857
      @kepasuarez3857 Před 4 lety +15

      Don't people get tired of posting the same comment in every video?

    • @vadere17
      @vadere17 Před 4 lety +1

      The best place to read about opinions online

    • @granth2182
      @granth2182 Před 4 lety +1

      This comment has a 30 day free trial

  • @bikrambhandari3997
    @bikrambhandari3997 Před 4 lety +40

    According to Hawking, Earth originally appeared in The Athletic

  • @samfederman7469
    @samfederman7469 Před 4 lety +6

    Life originally appeared on the athletic

  • @geoemm
    @geoemm Před 4 lety +4

    This Should be a movie

    • @Christopher_TG
      @Christopher_TG Před 4 lety +4

      Too long and intricate for a film. This should be an HBO miniseries like Chernobyl.

  • @xPrestigiousMusic
    @xPrestigiousMusic Před 4 lety +33

    Jesus originally appeared on The Athletic

  • @SwankSinatra007
    @SwankSinatra007 Před 4 lety +1

    Wild stuff, great content as always 👏🏽

  • @jorgbecker5028
    @jorgbecker5028 Před 3 lety +1

    Have you already made a video about Lutz Eigendorf? The footballer who was killed by the Stasi?

  • @Ese96Agoaye
    @Ese96Agoaye Před 4 lety +1

    Anyone else heard that deep breath at 8:11?

  • @starhawck
    @starhawck Před 4 lety +6

    Rage Against BIG BROTHER!

  • @amitygee7438
    @amitygee7438 Před rokem +1

    Everyone be like bad German spies when 8 out of 10 of us would of most likely dome the same

  • @akhileshmoorthy
    @akhileshmoorthy Před 4 lety +2

    Appeared in the athletic

  • @lancinekeita4823
    @lancinekeita4823 Před 4 lety +28

    Goodness Gracious, Athletic this Athletic That.

    • @jbo4547
      @jbo4547 Před 4 lety +5

      Yeah god forbid there is a geoup that constantly has good content. Fuck

    • @whatchachattin
      @whatchachattin Před 4 lety

      Everything else in football is funded by gambling, fossil fuels and authoritarian states, yet you complain that Tifo is sponsored by a football writing website

  • @FootballScrutiny
    @FootballScrutiny Před 4 lety +2

    Perhaps I should make videos like this on my analysis channel too.
    Great stuff like always

  • @aarnejaroma
    @aarnejaroma Před 4 lety +4

    The concept of football originally appeared on The Athletic

  • @reb2258
    @reb2258 Před 4 lety

    this story is so cool!!!

  • @ATominator9911
    @ATominator9911 Před 4 lety +2

    Horror Storys about East Germany are always popular

    • @a.d.1563
      @a.d.1563 Před rokem +1

      Because the Stasi was unimaginable cruel by their tactics and ways of torturing

  • @badcampa2641
    @badcampa2641 Před 4 lety +1

    He left his young family.

  • @chinmayneelkod931
    @chinmayneelkod931 Před 4 lety

    Wow..... How can a ball of sport become much bigger than that....

  • @danielkoranteng9788
    @danielkoranteng9788 Před 4 lety +2

    Sooooo he was the German Sam Allardyce?

    • @farfan97
      @farfan97 Před 4 lety

      Berger was way better.
      At the example he guided schalke, which was more a jojo club at that time than a good side, to the third place in 1995/1996. He had big part in the win of the UEFA CUP 1997 thanks to this place, although he was sacked a few games into 1996/1997 replaced by Huub Stevens another legend.

  • @gigidasha4475
    @gigidasha4475 Před 4 lety

    2:00 Map based on borders between 1945-1992 is wrong, it was till 1991. But ok :)

  • @coachhbosoccer
    @coachhbosoccer Před 4 lety

    Wow his son really paid for his father's actions

  • @iceyglow1715
    @iceyglow1715 Před 4 lety +13

    CZcams originally appeared on the Athletic

  • @bookertee2942
    @bookertee2942 Před 2 lety

    love this kind of video but needs more context, who tf is the Stasi? who was beefing who? where did yugoslavia come into it??

    • @GoulartGH
      @GoulartGH Před 2 lety

      (I'm typing this off of memory, so corrections are appreciated)
      after the second world war, where Germany lost to the allies, it was split into two halves - the West (capitalist) one, representative of the US, and the East (communist), representative of Russia. both sides were separated by the Berlin Wall.
      living conditions on the East side weren't great at all, so many ran away to the West. as such, Russia implemented a MASSIVE spying network in East Germany, which was the Stasi. its goals, for short, were to essentially find and punish "traitors of the State".
      so basically, the manager in the video ran from East Germany to West Germany, and as a result, the Stasi considered him a traitor and continuously attempted to punish him and his family for it.
      all of his son's rejections into football clubs, school and the like were the Russia-backed spying network acting behind the scenes because they don't want people leaving East Germany for a better place.
      hope this helps put the video into context! (and if you're interested, do some research on your own; as I said, I'm typing this off of memory and might've gotten something wrong. cheers!)

  • @ianbrudnakvoss3126
    @ianbrudnakvoss3126 Před 4 lety

    let's go more stuff about eintracht

  • @richardalex4516
    @richardalex4516 Před 4 lety +3

    The Stasi was originally created by the Athletic.

  • @Sam-lr9oi
    @Sam-lr9oi Před 4 lety +2

    Sort of amusing Berger would be bothered by former DDR officials in the German FA after reunification considering all the former Nazis that were kept around in the west despite supposed denazification, though I guess by '79 he wouldn't have seen much of that.

  • @darkleader5962
    @darkleader5962 Před 4 lety +17

    Sorry for my OCD but he was 65 😂

  • @anonymousjohn7160
    @anonymousjohn7160 Před 4 lety +5

    I was appeared on Athletic

  • @thlee3
    @thlee3 Před 4 lety

    Is Tifo subscription worth it?

  • @saki1333
    @saki1333 Před 4 lety +1

    What a chad

  • @gethinap
    @gethinap Před 4 lety +2

    Your life originally appeared on The Atlantic

  • @runrafarunthebestintheworld

    Welp just finished watching UFC 245.

  • @crashingdown6924
    @crashingdown6924 Před 4 lety

    Hard life vs easy life....

  • @daye8734
    @daye8734 Před 4 lety +8

    This Story 🤝 originally appearing
    The Athletic

  • @ozymandiaszzz
    @ozymandiaszzz Před 4 lety

    This comment originally appeared on the Athletic

  • @crayversace2804
    @crayversace2804 Před 4 lety +4

    Single men are a flight risk??

    • @DevoteeOfAergia
      @DevoteeOfAergia Před 4 lety +11

      Because it was considered they were at a high risk of defecting to the West since they had no family in the East.

  • @sirborrisandfootballentert9557

    Boris Johnson likes tennis

  • @n0body550
    @n0body550 Před 4 lety +1

    The athletic originally appeared on the athletic

  • @amvlogz5832
    @amvlogz5832 Před 4 lety

    Any one pls explain this story in a sentance

  • @Tupiaz
    @Tupiaz Před 4 lety

    Have we really come so far as a society so we know have to explain homosexuality used to be taboo. My understanding it still is and frowned upon it might not be a popular opinion but is hardly shocking it is. Or maybe I'm just getting old.

  • @rishabhbajoria2713
    @rishabhbajoria2713 Před 4 lety

  • @espwahgr
    @espwahgr Před 4 lety +19

    Petition to boycott the Athletic starting after this video.

    • @kristofmeszaros5223
      @kristofmeszaros5223 Před 4 lety +1

      This isnt how petitions work this "petitions" are the new like if-s on the internet

    • @Jayfive276
      @Jayfive276 Před 4 lety +4

      Why?

    • @espwahgr
      @espwahgr Před 4 lety

      @@kristofmeszaros5223 I know, just wanted to see how it would go. But to be honest, I HATE the Athletic - they are money grubbers who are ruining football online.

    • @espwahgr
      @espwahgr Před 4 lety

      @@Jayfive276 they are money grubbers who are ruining football online

    • @Smannyable
      @Smannyable Před 4 lety +2

      @@espwahgr How so? Because you have to pay for decent content? Instead of getting shit articles from terrible writers

  • @jaybay1840
    @jaybay1840 Před 4 lety +1

    First comment woo!

  • @hestanzalas
    @hestanzalas Před 3 lety

    boringggggggggg