Sonny Liston | Boxing's Most Intimidating and Unwanted Champion

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  • čas přidán 24. 06. 2021
  • Join Rainy Day Boxing for an in depth career tribute to arguably the most intimidating man of all time, the ‘Night Train’, Sonny Liston.
    Narrated by Eli Harris
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  • @RainyDayBoxing
    @RainyDayBoxing  Před 2 lety +6560

    Didn't plan on the video being this long, but Sonny's life was so complex, there was just too much that had to be included. I know some of my long time subscribers are big Liston fans, so this one is for you. Thank you all for your patience, Enjoy!
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    • @johnd.597
      @johnd.597 Před 2 lety +268

      “Newspapermen ask dumb questions. They look up at the sun and ask if it is shining.”
      - Sonny Liston

    • @CBRacing365
      @CBRacing365 Před 2 lety +91

      Thank you Rainy Day Boxing!! Its raining in Detroit right now today and I rather watch this than be apart of this worlds madness.

    • @mxtw7910
      @mxtw7910 Před 2 lety +98

      Powerful video. Broke my heart. One of the stories you know the ending to, but still hope it will end different. This story is an important cultural narrative and priceless spotlight of a transitioning time. Content like this is desperately needed throughout America right now - our sons and daughters need this perspective.

    • @dukescolej
      @dukescolej Před 2 lety +71

      You absolutely killed this. I really like documentaries. I've watched way too many.
      This is very well done. Better than most documentaries. The pacing is great. The length is great. The interview clips are great. The footage is great.
      This narrator is much stronger than the guy on some of the older Rainy Day Boxing videos (not hating, this narration is just really good)

    • @antoniomosley9410
      @antoniomosley9410 Před 2 lety +31

      Great documentary but Sonny Liston didn't introduce big heavyweights. Jess Willard was 6ft6-6ft7 weighed 250lbs and held the heavyweight title. Jim J Jefferies was 6ft2 and weighed around 220lbs. Joe Louis in his prime would weigh around 204lbs-207lbs and 6ft1-6ft2. Primo Carnera was 6ft6 and was 260lbs-270lbs. Liston was a big guy but all these guys before him was around his size or bigger. Liston and everyone else I mentioned would cut down in weight to have a trim body, Liston being 215lbs would means he could easily carry more weight if he wanted to, same with the other heavyweight champions I mentioned.

  • @youngsankara4169
    @youngsankara4169 Před 2 lety +16155

    “The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth”- African proverb

    • @MeistSonnig
      @MeistSonnig Před 2 lety +639

      That is powerful

    • @flintsvariety811
      @flintsvariety811 Před 2 lety +176

      Deep…

    • @vonburen888
      @vonburen888 Před 2 lety +186

      @joel joel meaningless...

    • @bimmjim
      @bimmjim Před 2 lety +31

      @African atheist .. Did you watch the video ❓❓
      Your brain has been poisoned by communism.

    • @Stalicone
      @Stalicone Před 2 lety +499

      @bimmjim - What does an African proverb have to do with communism? “Tribalism” is the oldest form of government and that’s what he’s referring to. Communism is a 19th century invention and a failed 20th century experiment. I’m quite sure this proverb far predates communism.

  • @ukr1pp3r99
    @ukr1pp3r99 Před 2 lety +10417

    "born at an unknown date" this alone tells you how shitty his childhood must have been

    • @BetterYouNow
      @BetterYouNow Před 2 lety +1131

      "Scars from his father's whip", poor guy. Sonny would've been a legend in our time but sadly he was born in wrong era

    • @_artorical_
      @_artorical_ Před 2 lety +644

      Not too mention “Arkansas did not make birth certificates mandatory until 1965.”

    • @Lonelysportofboxing
      @Lonelysportofboxing Před 2 lety +180

      @@BetterYouNow he would’ve been treated differently by the public if he had different parents

    • @kennymichaelalanya7134
      @kennymichaelalanya7134 Před 2 lety +159

      @@BetterYouNow its Sonny Listons hard life that made him the Man he was. A legend in boxing. His dad's beatins and his hardships in life were a blessing.

    • @chriswelcome8102
      @chriswelcome8102 Před 2 lety +410

      @@kennymichaelalanya7134 What

  • @yonislav_9821
    @yonislav_9821 Před 4 měsíci +239

    Sonny liston never saw kindness in his life, yet he still try to be kind

    • @grey0966
      @grey0966 Před 2 měsíci +1

      He didn’t. Was Sonny Liston catholic? If not what religion was he ?

    • @yonislav_9821
      @yonislav_9821 Před 2 měsíci +9

      @@grey0966 what role should that play? I mean who will show him the way to God? His father? I think that god is love, so he try to reach him in some level

    • @grey0966
      @grey0966 Před 2 měsíci

      @@yonislav_9821 amen, God is Love ✝️. I heard he was catholic. We al need Jesus and His Blood 🩸. May the Lord bless you 🙏

    • @mohddalibinzali1165
      @mohddalibinzali1165 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@grey0966if he believe there is only one god so, he dont need to have any religions. Here is the answer for question

    • @grey0966
      @grey0966 Před 2 měsíci

      @@mohddalibinzali1165 we all must be covered by the Blood 🩸 of Jesus. For He is God and Savior ✝️

  • @dupes6248
    @dupes6248 Před rokem +1492

    This is the most humane documentary I've seen on Liston. Thank you for giving a fair and comprehensive view of the champ and his tragic life.

    • @RainyDayBoxing
      @RainyDayBoxing  Před rokem +89

      Thank you very much for the kind words! Glad you enjoyed my take on Sonny's story.

    • @Hosh_Jiggles
      @Hosh_Jiggles Před rokem +5

      ...this paints him to be a victim. Okay. He's a victim. Lol. Nothing but a victim.

    • @stevenwerezak4532
      @stevenwerezak4532 Před rokem +33

      This man appeared to be cursed from birth.He made mistakes,payed for them but not shown any decency,respect or kindness! A man whom children loved must have a lot of good in him...children sense it,unvarnished!

    • @stevenwerezak4532
      @stevenwerezak4532 Před rokem +7

      ​@@Hosh_Jiggles All his " victims" were benevolent angels...okay...lol...

    • @botondbakos5954
      @botondbakos5954 Před rokem +28

      ​@@Hosh_Jiggles he was a victim of a lot of things. That doesn't mean he didn't do anything bad

  • @jamesgreen4080
    @jamesgreen4080 Před 2 lety +6465

    " I'm a man of few words, and I've already said most of them,"
    Sonny Liston

    • @oc3694
      @oc3694 Před 2 lety +63

      😳

    • @6pac.
      @6pac. Před 2 lety +86

      Awesome quote

    • @FooeyMcgooey
      @FooeyMcgooey Před 2 lety +131

      That's a cold line, but he has a warm heart.

    • @m0skit0
      @m0skit0 Před 2 lety +69

      @@FooeyMcgooey I'm sure you knew him personally

    • @FooeyMcgooey
      @FooeyMcgooey Před 2 lety +103

      @@m0skit0 Man shut the fuck up.
      You can still be kind and have a killer instinct in the world of boxing.

  • @Fuckyoutubecensorship1
    @Fuckyoutubecensorship1 Před 2 lety +3371

    "As kids we loved heroes.
    As adults we understand villains."

    • @fu6817
      @fu6817 Před 2 lety +42

      "Copium."

    • @paxhumana2015
      @paxhumana2015 Před 2 lety +50

      Just because someone understands a villain does not mean that a person should become one in their lives...always be the hero, no matter what the world says about you, for what YAHWEH EL ELOHIM Himself in His Holy Word is the path of a true hero and anything else is just a false and Satanic imitation that will ultimately make you a villain in the end.

    • @vernondecker9532
      @vernondecker9532 Před 2 lety +6

      True so true.

    • @olivierjansen694
      @olivierjansen694 Před 2 lety +3

      Deep and true af

    • @Godisgoodalways7777
      @Godisgoodalways7777 Před 2 lety +80

      @@paxhumana2015 bro you don't understand

  • @thorinoakenshield3364
    @thorinoakenshield3364 Před rokem +1121

    That story hurts me, really well made: you gave him the tribute he deserved. Thank you for this video

    • @RainyDayBoxing
      @RainyDayBoxing  Před rokem +59

      Thank you for the kind words. Happy to hear I did Sonny's story justice

    • @jogreeen
      @jogreeen Před rokem

      guy was a fuckin fraud, he become champ thanks to rigged fights and then took dives for cash. Liston's buddies in the Mafia got to Floyd, why do you think the fights only lasted two minutes.

    • @nicholasrodriguez7364
      @nicholasrodriguez7364 Před rokem +2

      @@RainyDayBoxing Please help what is the song at the end?

    • @muhammedsanverdi7382
      @muhammedsanverdi7382 Před rokem

      @@RainyDayBoxing bu vıdeonun turkcesını ızlememın bir yolu varmı

    • @Mozlove
      @Mozlove Před rokem +2

      Agreed this was a beautiful work of art

  • @bobmathews9072
    @bobmathews9072 Před 4 měsíci +65

    “Sonny Liston made me look like a boy scout” - Tyson . “He hit your elbow and it broke your arm” - Ali . What more need to be said?

    • @kevlark3184
      @kevlark3184 Před 17 dny

      Ali beat him while his face was covered in listons acid. Ali beat him while blind and in pain. Then beat him with one punch in their 2nd fight

  • @stevenfeinberg3028
    @stevenfeinberg3028 Před 2 lety +4091

    This man deserves a major movie biopic. He is owed an enormous apology by the entire world.

    • @dotishboy
      @dotishboy Před 2 lety +171

      Three historic biopics I would love to see in my lifetime: (1) Sam Cooke (2) Sonny Liston (3) The Haitian uprising of 1804 🙂

    • @michaelcraig9449
      @michaelcraig9449 Před 2 lety +25

      There is a movie about him.

    • @jeffallinson8089
      @jeffallinson8089 Před 2 lety +8

      I agree 100%

    • @Dogemon.
      @Dogemon. Před 2 lety +18

      @@f554uv1 lol I bet you’re in denial to racism if that’s what you come up with

    • @cartermarrero9431
      @cartermarrero9431 Před 2 lety +7

      Yeah good luck with that. 👍

  • @IJashatted
    @IJashatted Před 2 lety +3365

    Man, when he became champ and he went back home to Philly and no one was there to welcome him.
    That shi was sad...

    • @theoteddy9665
      @theoteddy9665 Před 2 lety +205

      I wanted to be there to shake his giant hand..

    • @tabithalee6245
      @tabithalee6245 Před 2 lety +211

      Well, his reputation made him a villain at that point and unpopular. Like the bully who really wanted to be loved.

    • @CCCSaxsonWarmonger
      @CCCSaxsonWarmonger Před 2 lety +47

      He shouldnt have been allowed to live after his armed robbery and assaults, the fact that he wasnt dead should have been good enough for him. Its a sad story that he gets to be remembered and good peoples stories will be forgotten

    • @jazzp81
      @jazzp81 Před 2 lety +63

      SHOULD’VE CAME BACK ST LOUIS. WE WOULDA NEVER TREATED HIM THAT WAY

    • @UlfhedinnNorsk
      @UlfhedinnNorsk Před 2 lety +74

      If that’s your opinion, you are a psychopath as well. Why would normal, law abiding people greet a menace to society and a career criminal only because he is AMAZINGLY good at professionally hurting people?

  • @eeyore077
    @eeyore077 Před 8 měsíci +30

    Liston is the most underrated boxer ever..hard childhood, racism, mafia's interests on him, probably older than we would know, and still one of the best heavyweights

  • @tgh223
    @tgh223 Před 3 měsíci +20

    this is a masterpiece ive watched it 3 times

    • @RainyDayBoxing
      @RainyDayBoxing  Před 3 měsíci +6

      Thank you for saying that, I really appreciate it! Glad you enjoyed it enough to watch it more than once!

  • @carlossantos-rios9337
    @carlossantos-rios9337 Před rokem +2316

    His story is one of the saddest ever... He was a man who was just looking for approval and love. His story is raw and very human.

    • @kevio6868
      @kevio6868 Před rokem +43

      a hard life

    • @yesandyes9168
      @yesandyes9168 Před rokem

      The story of 99% of all humanity that has ever existed

    • @johnnysack3808
      @johnnysack3808 Před rokem +33

      Very human...

    • @DerAltruist
      @DerAltruist Před rokem +38

      Well, it's hard to get approval after hurting and stealing from many people.

    • @carlossantos-rios9337
      @carlossantos-rios9337 Před rokem +52

      @@DerAltruist Very true. Im sure he was penitent of the bad he did and he looked to boxing to get out of the struggle he endured. The sad part is that the money and the notoriety made things worse on him and he was no longer seen as a person but an item to the mob in which there's no escape...

  • @mervynv3224
    @mervynv3224 Před 2 lety +4210

    finally, someone is shining some light on the underrated Sonny Liston

    • @david.amuiki
      @david.amuiki Před 2 lety +120

      He aint underrated at all its just that he got the greatest defeat of all boxing history so when they talk abt him ppl mostly talk abt ali vs liston 2 but liston was a monster

    • @paulis4278
      @paulis4278 Před 2 lety +92

      He is not underrated at all by true boxing fan.

    • @david.amuiki
      @david.amuiki Před 2 lety +3

      @@paulis4278 yea

    • @WhoDaF0ok1sThatGuy
      @WhoDaF0ok1sThatGuy Před 2 lety +57

      Liston and Frazier are really underrated. If you ask people do you know who Frazier or Liston is, they’ll say no. But if you ask them do you know who mike Tyson or Cassius Clay is, they’ll say yes. In my opinion, I think Sonny and Frazier were better than Ali. Sonny was just thrown off his game, you can tell because he demolished Robinson, so I bet he could do that to Ali as well. And Frazier beat Ali, was robbed of the rematch, and his coaches forced him to quit when Ali said he wanted to quit.

    • @kohekade2961
      @kohekade2961 Před 2 lety +8

      The light shines on it's own, people just didn't care to notice, my favourite of all time!

  • @RabbitArms
    @RabbitArms Před rokem +254

    Rest in peace to a legend. Sometimes good men do bad things to survive. His life was a struggle but I’m sure he had a good heart, just a giant who was worked to be nothing more than a giant.

    • @grey0966
      @grey0966 Před 2 měsíci

      Was Sonny Liston a catholic ? If not what religion was he ?

  • @itsjustme6018
    @itsjustme6018 Před 6 měsíci +51

    This video has been seen by over 5 million people all over the world, even though Sonny is long gone from this world you’ve done more then enough to preserve his legacy and finally give him the recognition he rightfully deserved in death that he never got in life.

  • @southlondon86
    @southlondon86 Před 2 lety +2470

    That part where he flew back and no one was there to welcome him - can’t imagine how deeply upsetting that would have been.

    • @MasalaMan
      @MasalaMan Před 2 lety +214

      Tyson Fury went through the same thing after he beat Klitschko. There was no press, nothing, just his family. According to his Dad it was one of the things that threw him into a big depression.

    • @TruthTriumphs786
      @TruthTriumphs786 Před 2 lety +30

      That's life! People need drama. They don't wanna accept truth

    • @mkodyChallengesYOu
      @mkodyChallengesYOu Před 2 lety +10

      Big up South London (Norbury sides to Brixton all the way to Lewisham and around it )
      Agree ..its deeply upsetting
      Sad and depressing .

    • @TruthTriumphs786
      @TruthTriumphs786 Před 2 lety +10

      @@kurty85 lol...
      Nobody gives a $hit

    • @edsullivan5836
      @edsullivan5836 Před 2 lety +19

      The media paint the picture for the people to believe.

  • @cyruskhalvati
    @cyruskhalvati Před rokem +1297

    I never thought sonny looked intimidating from photos. He always just looked kinda broken and numb.
    Now i know why.

    • @efulen6168
      @efulen6168 Před rokem +7

      same

    • @luisestrada2732
      @luisestrada2732 Před rokem +47

      That’s what makes him dangerous if he’s numb he doesn’t feel pain or fear

    • @PerkaholicFB
      @PerkaholicFB Před rokem +110

      @@luisestrada2732 he doesn’t mean numb as in scary I think he meant numb as in sad like he just always look so sad and disappointed with the world he’s just numb to everyone and everything

    • @luisestrada2732
      @luisestrada2732 Před rokem +1

      @@PerkaholicFB Ik that’s the sabe numb I meant too

    • @josephscarborough8888
      @josephscarborough8888 Před rokem +17

      The first time I saw his face, which was right before he pulled the gun on Ali, only thing I saw was sadness and misery.

  • @Monster12367
    @Monster12367 Před 2 měsíci +3

    You are remembered, you were always worthy. RIP Mr. Liston

  • @Shari1565
    @Shari1565 Před rokem +29

    When he smiled.. It was the purest, sweetest thing. A strong handsome Panther. We appreciate your strength champ❤

  • @Lydonfox
    @Lydonfox Před 2 lety +5183

    Wish we had a time machine so we could go back and tell Sonny that in the future, he is a respected legend of boxing and respected as a human being, not seen as a criminal or unwanted champ. One of the greatest.

  • @jwardbass4452
    @jwardbass4452 Před 2 lety +2649

    “Born on an unknown date and was the 24th child out of 25 children” sounds like a mythologized biography but it’s all real.
    Insane!!

    • @karlbuchanan1363
      @karlbuchanan1363 Před 2 lety +36

      Yes. Horrible

    • @Mercmad
      @Mercmad Před 2 lety +123

      @@karlbuchanan1363 Horrible? my mother was one of 17. raised in a tiny 2 bedroom house ,none of them turned to crime although poor. my grandfather was the only bread winner until various uncles and Aunts started work.

    • @jsmith7888
      @jsmith7888 Před 2 lety +203

      Mercmad well your grandad was a clown and so was your grandma. Selfish bringing that many children into a home with no money

    • @boigeorge886
      @boigeorge886 Před 2 lety +37

      @@jsmith7888 LOL!

    • @jaytee2716
      @jaytee2716 Před 2 lety +50

      That’s crazy how huge families used to be back in those times. Even my dad had 13 siblings it just goes to show how far the birth rates dropped over the years typically families have 1-2 kids tops these days. I’m speaking of statistics of course there is families with lots of kids but typically only 1 kid is the usual now.

  • @thruwaycircus2532
    @thruwaycircus2532 Před 8 měsíci +32

    Idk where the hate came from. You can see a real deep soul in his eyes. I never knew any of this about him. It's a crying shame how things went for him. I hope he found at least some kind of peace while he was here.

  • @xXFoxyGrandmaXx
    @xXFoxyGrandmaXx Před rokem +127

    As a society, we can not undo the unfairness that was done to the great Sunny Liston, but we can honor and remember his legacy and triumph after his passing

    • @photographyinflight4183
      @photographyinflight4183 Před rokem +3

      That is to say.......Sonny.

    • @CrazyBrick30
      @CrazyBrick30 Před 3 měsíci +1

      As an individual trying to advocate for "society" to honor this man, you could at the very least spell his name right. :/

    • @frmrfr
      @frmrfr Před 2 měsíci +1

      Undo the fairness to a known criminal with ties the crime families?
      God forbid.

  • @martinartwell1289
    @martinartwell1289 Před rokem +1221

    I wish Liston had known how respected of a boxer he would be 50 years after his death, and that we still remember how great he was.

    • @joshuahall1581
      @joshuahall1581 Před 11 měsíci +23

      SportsCenter ranked him as the 6th greatest boxer of all time. Ring Magazine ranked him as the 10th Greatest Heavyweight of all time, most ring and boxing pundits in the early 80's throughout the late 00's ranked him anywhere from the 2nd greatest boxer of all time to the 5th greatest boxer of all time.

    • @eivindgjengstjohansen9625
      @eivindgjengstjohansen9625 Před 9 měsíci +13

      I read that one of Sonny's sister's said that he was born in 1919, wich means that he died at age 51 in 1964 he was believed, to be 33 or 34 but he looked older, sure the alcohol and heroin affected his looks, and Sonny didn't know when he was born he claimed 1930.

    • @JeffBezos-pb1zv
      @JeffBezos-pb1zv Před 6 měsíci

      The Media does this to athletes till today! Ostracized a World Champion
      it's disgusting that he tried to be good and still wasn't accepted because of a pretentious NAACP and a President who was put in office by the Mafia itself! Sonny Liston will always be a phenomenal fighter and World Champion 🏆! No one can take that away from him.
      Fck the mainstream media!

    • @grey0966
      @grey0966 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Was Sonny Liston Catholic ? If not what religion was he ?

    • @BryanMetcalf-ld7cb
      @BryanMetcalf-ld7cb Před měsícem +1

      ​@@grey0966 he was catholic

  • @chickensashimi933
    @chickensashimi933 Před 2 lety +2027

    He looks like he's more of a gentleman than today's loud mouth boxers.

  • @wetwrkinc.5122
    @wetwrkinc.5122 Před rokem +114

    We tore down a good man. Watched him flail in the dark only to shine through with light.
    A real human man. With flaws. A man that wanted and I believe tried, to be a better man and reached some of his goals.
    Rest in Peace Champ.

    • @vgr112261
      @vgr112261 Před 9 měsíci +1

      “Good man?”

    • @fmulleady
      @fmulleady Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@vgr112261how would you be with a brute father and crooked white cops everywhere?

    • @Dino_Gamer1417
      @Dino_Gamer1417 Před 7 měsíci

      @@vgr112261 Yes, only idiots like you don't see past the surface of such tragic figures and their hardships they went through to find peace.

    • @phunnymannfromphunnyland
      @phunnymannfromphunnyland Před 7 měsíci

      Did you not watch the damn video@@vgr112261

    • @forcedtohaveahandle
      @forcedtohaveahandle Před 4 měsíci +5

      “We”??

  • @Aylo.G
    @Aylo.G Před 8 měsíci +10

    rest in peace sonny🥊🕊️❤️

  • @ExKUKicker
    @ExKUKicker Před 2 lety +1964

    RIP Charles "Sonny" Liston...you deserved more than mankind gave you.

    • @whitespacemarines4308
      @whitespacemarines4308 Před 2 lety +134

      Beaten by his dad and called the New Mule. What a sad life for a child.

    • @2010narutovssasuke
      @2010narutovssasuke Před 2 lety +9

      @fvckyutube So would it have been better if he worked with the black mob?

    • @aatroxtheworldender933
      @aatroxtheworldender933 Před 2 lety

      Womenkind XD

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      @true1330 Před 2 lety +3

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      plz read BCZ your whole life depend on what you choose bcz ALLAH the creator will ask you about this life after this life . plz check my playlist i added some imp links
      don't think this is a message only . take it serious .
      1) Your heart is running can you stop it now ? NO
      can you live without oxygen ? NO
      can you live without food and water ? NO
      ( bcz you are not controlling your self because it is controls by your creator )
      2) You need to sleep to recover your self
      if you can control your self then stop this process you cant do it .
      THINK ABOUT
      other created god by some human
      i) they make pictures , sculpture etc and pray to that pictures
      can you make god ? no
      you cant see god in this world , you can see god after this world if you obey GOD / ALLAH
      is god a human being ? no
      About Some created God By Humans
      some fake god require to eat food some worship stone and some worship real god but not follow his order .
      If God eat food then have call of nature means need toilet . it is not the quality of god so remove these fake gods now .
      Adam , Jesus , Moses Abraham Were messengers of allah before muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam And Adam Was first man and prophet so it shows that islam is from beginning.
      Allah is only one God and prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam allah's last messenger .
      messenger means which get message from God .
      jesus is neither a god nor a son of god , he was a messenger of god
      1) ACCORDING TO CHRISTIANITY
      when people tryied to torture JESUS
      and want to beat him and kill him even they were thinking to hang on neils etc etc etc
      and after that they started to worship him as a god and also as a son of god they are fool and they fooled you you are also following their fake path
      is it a quality of god that any one can beat him and to nail jail and hang him torture him think it NOW
      2) Jesus Eat Food When He Was Hungry
      is it a quality of god ? ( Hungry God ) if he eat food then also do toilet
      at that time no toilet seat was there so they used to do that in hidden in grass and back of some trees and stones etc
      is it a quality of God ? No
      First Order Of Creator Is .
      1) Allah / Iswar / God is only one god and prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam allah's Last messenger
      2) namaz / salah / prayer according to prophet muhammad sallallahu alehi vasallam
      we cant worship muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam . we worship only creator ALLAH .
      if we worship muhammad then we will be in hell .
      Keep in mind that Muhammad Sallallahu Alehi Wasallam cannot make a single fly . before prophet muhammad ; adam , jesus , noah , moses had came but we cant pray to any prophet .
      if some one make cartoon of any prophet even jesus , moses , noah , adam etc then we muslim will fight to them like in france a case happened ,
      DONT JUDGE MUSLIM to see islam ,
      to see islam you should read QURAN and sunnah of prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam .
      in islam worship only creator one allah in the way that he tells to his messenger to do .
      what will happen after death with you ? if you obey allah's order or disobey.
      and you can check my playlist full quran and more links about what is islam and who is ALLAH
      read full must instead of wasting time and songs and movies .
      i promise you will know everything that you want , so plz minimum one time
      read Quran it is a word of god , you will know what is written inside in it .
      read full quran english translation from youtube and books .
      and you can check my playlist full quran ..,...,.,.,.,

    • @diowil1
      @diowil1 Před 2 lety +10

      Very well put for clearly a complicated man. Rest in power Sonny.

  • @geenadasilva9287
    @geenadasilva9287 Před 2 lety +2594

    Sonny’s story breaks my heart. life treated him like shit and his response to it all was absolutely understandable. so so sad

    • @mrhoopman8491
      @mrhoopman8491 Před 2 lety

      Lb

    • @Soulrollsdeep
      @Soulrollsdeep Před 2 lety +50

      understandable? Maybe. Acceptable? Nah.

    • @kenworth3609
      @kenworth3609 Před 2 lety +8

      @@Soulrollsdeep that’s quite right….life is what you make it, though it’s gonna be in societies rule…. otherwise you’ll waste it

    • @Soulrollsdeep
      @Soulrollsdeep Před 2 lety +17

      We've all got a sob story or three. Nobody cares, nobody wants to put up with your shit because of it.

    • @nasdoc1
      @nasdoc1 Před 2 lety +7

      It breaks my heart too. I feel so sad. The world is a cruel selfish place.

  • @poloe2727
    @poloe2727 Před 5 měsíci +21

    All I see was a guy that went through so much pain he relied on his gift (strength and intimidation) to make a way for a comfortable living and be accepted. Sad he didn’t get the love he deserved. Rest in peace to the legend Sonny Liston.

  • @Truthseeker1994
    @Truthseeker1994 Před 2 měsíci +3

    This made me cry snot &all the part when he came home off the plane 🥺🤧💔

  • @nykia31
    @nykia31 Před 2 lety +1202

    Dude had such a sad, tragic life. He was like a guy who was totally out of place for his time, in almost every aspect.

    • @sorz6621
      @sorz6621 Před 2 lety +22

      humanity never fails to give .... sincerely sorry Sonny.

    • @oppothumbs1
      @oppothumbs1 Před 2 lety +3

      @@sorz6621 You really think Sonny doesn't have a better life than most? He was tested twice on the happiness scale and he was pretty happy.

    • @sorz6621
      @sorz6621 Před 2 lety +16

      @@oppothumbs1 no i dont

    • @tompossessed1729
      @tompossessed1729 Před 2 lety +52

      @@oppothumbs1 in wealth he had it better then most but that means nothing when you are always see as irredeemable despite trying to change but never give the chance. Being made to feel alone is one the worst feeling in the world.

    • @LopsidedMoz
      @LopsidedMoz Před 2 lety +5

      @@oppothumbs1 He was hated because of his public image, and never celebrated for his prowess as a boxer.

  • @Ryder_69
    @Ryder_69 Před 2 lety +826

    "He was the most intimidating boxer ever, he was even more intimidating than me"
    ~Mike Tyson

    • @fredball8240
      @fredball8240 Před 2 lety +63

      Iron Mike oughta know, Cus was Patterson's manager and it was Cus who trained Mike to be as fearsome as Liston.

    • @williamjones7247
      @williamjones7247 Před 2 lety +49

      @@fredball8240
      It was Cus who advised Patterson NOT to fight Liston.

    • @darrylingram2662
      @darrylingram2662 Před 2 lety +2

      Okay Mike ✌️🏆💯

    • @ourtime-downhere6931
      @ourtime-downhere6931 Před 2 lety +24

      @@williamjones7247 yup, Patterson was a great boxer but extremely undersized for a heavyweight especially against a guy like Liston.

    • @williamjones7247
      @williamjones7247 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ourtime-downhere6931
      Yes he was.

  • @rexstetson1717
    @rexstetson1717 Před rokem +63

    Wow! Brilliant documentary. The only thing I ever knew about Liston, was that he lost the heavyweight championship to Ali. What a fascinating story of his life, and so well told. Thank you.

    • @RainyDayBoxing
      @RainyDayBoxing  Před rokem +9

      Thank you for the kind words! Glad you enjoyed my take on Sonny's story.

  • @feynmanschwingere_mc2270
    @feynmanschwingere_mc2270 Před rokem +49

    Strongest boxer EVER. Even stronger than Foreman. No fighter in HISTORY was more feared. He was so hated and misunderstood. He was a brilliant, brilliant fighter. RIP King.

  • @b.santos8804
    @b.santos8804 Před 2 lety +1567

    Never knew that much about Liston until I watched this. His life reads like a Greek tragedy. RIP Champ.

    • @burtvincent1278
      @burtvincent1278 Před 2 lety +8

      Sad story.

    • @executor2056
      @executor2056 Před 2 lety +5

      Like the death of Achilles or something.

    • @arthas640
      @arthas640 Před 2 lety +40

      Seeing how Patterson was popular even with white America and Ali became the king of boxing and one of Black America's most beloved leaders almost on par with Malcom X it's sad how Liston is forgotten by most people across the world, even among many boxing enthusiasts. Ali, Foreman, and Tyson are legends but Liston is a footnote and mostly remembered as Alis stepping stone to super stardom

    • @Mark-ok8ss
      @Mark-ok8ss Před 2 lety +8

      @@arthas640 Sonny Liston & George Foreman where Ali’s best opponents. Liston was paid to take a dive because of his “friends” in the 2nd fight.
      It’s all about money 💰
      They tried to look after him in Los Vegas but he was a to silly, he had already sold his soul.

    • @asheru9254
      @asheru9254 Před 2 lety +2

      You've posted this comment twice on different videos, Joe Vincent and now Rainy day boxing 🙂

  • @deucethagod9273
    @deucethagod9273 Před 2 lety +1113

    I never really saw that “cold” and “soulless” look in his eyes. He always just looked like a sad misunderstood man to me. Truly a sad story. Genuinely broke my heart to hear about the things this man went through.

    • @AzureKnightmare32
      @AzureKnightmare32 Před 2 lety +88

      I agree, Deuce. I didn't see soullessness or anything baleful in his gaze. If he was cold it was out of necessity, he lived and thrived in a brutal, pitiless world. The man was a scorned champion and his career and reputation was undoubtedly controlled and tainted by the mob. Imagine what he could have achieved if he would have had the support and adoration Floyd Patterson had, and a trainer like Cus D'Amato...

    • @carlosfuentes3269
      @carlosfuentes3269 Před 2 lety +8

      @@AzureKnightmare32 So true

    • @eyeofthetiger666satan
      @eyeofthetiger666satan Před 2 lety +5

      @@AzureKnightmare32 greatest heavyweight of all time possibly...

    • @wizardrhyme9597
      @wizardrhyme9597 Před 2 lety +2

      @@eyeofthetiger666satan Ali beat him twice. Once by rtd and knockout in the second fight.

    • @eyeofthetiger666satan
      @eyeofthetiger666satan Před 2 lety +3

      @@wizardrhyme9597 I already knew that... what's your point?

  • @Scotify25
    @Scotify25 Před rokem +75

    The last few minutes of the video made me smile. Seeing Sonny interact with fans and children, sharing a kiss with his wife, smiling. The testemonies from people who knew him. He looked like a friendly giant. He looked like he had at those moneys what he longed for.

  • @thestinkycheeseman2208
    @thestinkycheeseman2208 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Not that my comment matters this late, but this is an amazing bit of documentation. I'm not a boxing fanatic, but I routinely watch old footage of the sport. As someone who is no expert, but is fascinated with old eras of the sport, this is beautiful. Exceptionally so. Thank you for your time.

  • @shonanbloodline
    @shonanbloodline Před 2 lety +1277

    When the little kid he was holding kissed him on the cheek, he let go a smile that said a lot. I never knew anything about this man other than the Ali story. I'm glad I found this and now have a much different view of him. Thank you

    • @D.I.Y.M75
      @D.I.Y.M75 Před 2 lety +3

      Please elaborate this needs more contest thanks bro

    • @shonanbloodline
      @shonanbloodline Před 2 lety +116

      @@D.I.Y.M75 This man was absolutely feared for many reasons, one of which was his intimidating presence. A small child gave him a kiss on the cheek and he lit up like it was the greatest thing in the history of everything. That smile didn't scare anyone. It didn't intimidate anyone. Someone he didn't know just for a moment let him feel what he had been wanting for damn near his whole life. Putting his guard down and feeling joy.. And that is what I saw in that smile.

    • @kevonceasar1611
      @kevonceasar1611 Před 2 lety +4

      @@shonanbloodline what time was this I missed it

    • @shonanbloodline
      @shonanbloodline Před 2 lety +19

      @@kevonceasar1611 25:25, brethren.

    • @leewitte4700
      @leewitte4700 Před 2 lety

      Ditto

  • @Deadman1000
    @Deadman1000 Před 2 lety +904

    Liston was a man who made it off the strength of his back and the sweat of his brow. That's honorable no matter what the circumstances of his life were. Even his gravestone has a powerful and simple message, "A Man".

    • @venicec3310
      @venicec3310 Před rokem +21

      Great comment

    • @lilraykivert8176
      @lilraykivert8176 Před rokem +12

      i can feel that the words on his gravestone are very deep but can’t figure out why. could you explain it to me ?

    • @BreadOW
      @BreadOW Před rokem +36

      ​@@lilraykivert8176 he was true to himself, despite everything that happened to him, he pushed through it all to be the best version of himself
      my interpretation

    • @Deadman1000
      @Deadman1000 Před rokem +16

      @@lilraykivert8176 I think @Bread got it right. Sonny never stood down when in the face of adversity. He became champion when everyone at the time said he couldn't. Men like Liston only come around every few hundred years.

    • @justdrop
      @justdrop Před rokem +11

      You can take everything from someone, run their name through the mud, but at the dawn of a new day it's up to them to determine if they're still man enough to see the next day through.
      Even if they take your life, only you can take your will to rise.

  • @kazilziya830
    @kazilziya830 Před rokem +8

    Thank you for portraying Sonny Liston the man and not the so-called monster.

  • @jetorixjones
    @jetorixjones Před 8 měsíci +4

    RIP Sonny

  • @Palahume
    @Palahume Před 2 lety +952

    Man this is one of the saddest stories I've ever heard. Liston just wanted to be a normal part of society, a good person, and the people's champion.

    • @iguile1471
      @iguile1471 Před 2 lety +68

      @Plandemic XlX sonny knew no better, he raised himself and in a harsh environment without structure and discipline, he had to survive the best he knew, he was taken advantage of, forced to take a dive when the mob lost their money on the first ali fight, give the man a break, lifes not always peaches and cream.

    • @paulbrewer2374
      @paulbrewer2374 Před 2 lety +16

      Sonny's life was tragic. He never got the second chance he yearned for with the public; to be their Champ and to enjoy the respect and adulation of his Heavyweight Champion predecessors - to be the People's Champion.
      Sonny Liston: No man ever overcame such terrible obstacles in his life only to be shunned by the public at large when he finally succeeded. I've always felt so sorry for him.

    • @OperationMindPhuk
      @OperationMindPhuk Před 2 lety +18

      @Plandemic XlX he was given nothing he fought for so he took it, i respect that. the line describes him perfectly 'for someone so powerfull he had very little power over his own life', no doubt he did bad things for the mob but his life was forced that way, not by choice.

    • @toctuning
      @toctuning Před 2 lety +6

      Unfortunately, his time in the limelight and the real appreciation for his talent and his desire to be a different, better person came far after his life was over. He didn't live a useless life though, so few in this world will ever be spoken of with such admiration and respect so long after we are gone, if we're spoken of at all.
      My dad used to tell me when I was a little kid, how Sonny was one of the greatest of all time (he was a big boxing fan) and the more I learned about him (Sonny) the more I had a huge amount of admiration for him overcoming a life that was as bottom as it got, and built up to a point he was the greatest. Especially with all the adversity and disrespect he endured. The real tragedy here is he will never know the earthly love and respect so many hold for him as his story is told and retold again.

    • @marcuscicero9587
      @marcuscicero9587 Před 2 lety +5

      hell yeah it's sad . may the guy be resting in peace

  • @theycallmefabii
    @theycallmefabii Před 2 lety +873

    His eyes looked empty, but his smile man... you can see he just wanted to be loved...
    Thanks for the video, I never knew his story! Rest in Piece Legend!

    • @jamisonbernhardt3310
      @jamisonbernhardt3310 Před 2 lety +7

      Looks like he had a woman

    • @henrybrowne7248
      @henrybrowne7248 Před 2 lety +48

      I've gobbled up as many Sonny Liston videos as I could here. As fantastic as this may sound, I really don't think he was the guy people thought. People are made by their circumstances. I don't remember where I saw it, but there's this stunning picture of smiling Sonny with an adorable little girl sitting on his lap. One look at that picture shows it all . .

    • @theycallmefabii
      @theycallmefabii Před 2 lety +4

      @@henrybrowne7248 Damn

    • @DemocratsareagentsofSATAN
      @DemocratsareagentsofSATAN Před 2 lety +4

      OMFG are you serious??
      Yeah....George Floyd wanted to be loved too.......
      you fucking people celebrating criminals......absolutely pathetic

    • @rayrochester8831
      @rayrochester8831 Před 2 lety +15

      Which is what sociopaths suffer from the most, the yearning for genuine love. They were never shown love nor cared for and possibly abused which thus causes their severe apathetic attitude. That part of their brain just never formed.

  • @amincruzchafi796
    @amincruzchafi796 Před rokem +7

    Sonny liston was the most intimidanting boxer off all time
    "A MAN"

  • @tdmap2241
    @tdmap2241 Před rokem +8

    "The exact date of his birth is unknown, and fittingly we're not sure the date he died."
    What a tragic life.....

    • @eivindgjengstjohansen9625
      @eivindgjengstjohansen9625 Před 9 měsíci

      I read that one of Sonny's sister's said that he was born in 1919, wich means that he died at age 51 in 1964 he was believed, to be 33 or 34 but he looked older, sure the alcohol and heroin affected his looks, and Sonny didn't know when he was born he claimed 1930.

  • @jamestheradioman
    @jamestheradioman Před 2 lety +627

    This could have easily aired on television 📺 as a special. Well done!

    • @trueneese8080
      @trueneese8080 Před 2 lety +6

      I would agree, 15 years ago or more. Does cable TV even exist anymore?

    • @trueneese8080
      @trueneese8080 Před 2 lety +9

      @That Regular Dude I don’t live under a rock anymore. I live in an apartment now, but I am thinking about going back

    • @sarkomazmanyan9813
      @sarkomazmanyan9813 Před 2 lety +1

      This should get aired out of respect for Listen people really don’t know just how good and feared he was. Listen is in my top 5 all time

    • @frankc.9345
      @frankc.9345 Před 2 lety +1

      Dude took a dive against Ali period mob was involved so obvious

    • @tammermashni8541
      @tammermashni8541 Před 2 lety +1

      They did do a great job !

  • @charliemcmillan4561
    @charliemcmillan4561 Před 2 lety +1366

    I about teared up when that kid kissed his cheek and he just started grinning. A kind man who tried to move the world and shake the foundation to give him a chance, and even when he finally pulled it off and climbed the mountain to get to the top against all odds, his chance was never given.

    • @ignatiolu863
      @ignatiolu863 Před rokem +68

      It tells you that press itself was a villain during that time and the public alongside journalists supported that narrative.

    • @jeremyknop5378
      @jeremyknop5378 Před rokem

      @@ignatiolu863 yup, and they still have an agenda today. They spin and twist stories they "report" on to fit that agenda and their the agenda of their puppet masters. Institutions of man change very little at their core and all desire the same things.

    • @carlostejada1479
      @carlostejada1479 Před rokem +11

      Those hipocrite ppl killed him.

    • @markl5998
      @markl5998 Před rokem +16

      Goes to show do what you want because YOU want to do it. Because the general public is far too pathetic and jealous to give credit where it's due

    • @xavierlejon1244
      @xavierlejon1244 Před rokem +3

      @TurnedLeftAtTheRockyMountains I disagree with Your rankings. Luis was better and should be the highest ranked fighter of all times with Sonny Liston second. And to tell the truth I’m not entirely sure the Bown Bomber could have beat Sonny. Liston was Boxing’s greatest strong Man second to none. Sonny Liston was the One Punch Man of Boxing.

  • @christopherdavis5113
    @christopherdavis5113 Před rokem +16

    I never heard this story before. GOD BLESS SONNY. He got a raw deal.

  • @DoctorRevers
    @DoctorRevers Před 8 měsíci +14

    This is one of the greatest boxing stories. The guy had to run away from his father at 13(!) and people still wouldn’t give him any respect after he climbed his way to the top and won everything.
    Embarrassing performances by Patterson and people loved the guy.
    Nice job with this video.

  • @xcH1NOx1
    @xcH1NOx1 Před 2 lety +3498

    Hats off to you for this Gem

    • @not8278
      @not8278 Před 2 lety +4

      shut up

    • @Scarface_saiyan
      @Scarface_saiyan Před 2 lety +9

      Agreed!

    • @Boxeo250
      @Boxeo250 Před 2 lety +2

      @@studentofsweetscience6922 spamming ain’t gonna do shit ali hater and I don’t even rate ali as the goat heavyweight

    • @Boxeo250
      @Boxeo250 Před 2 lety +3

      @@studentofsweetscience6922 really this is what u do? Ain’t u got somet better to do?

    • @Boxeo250
      @Boxeo250 Před 2 lety +2

      @@studentofsweetscience6922 you spamming

  • @johnd.597
    @johnd.597 Před 2 lety +1471

    One of the best heavyweights in history. The amount of disrespect this man receives is disgusting.
    Edit: It seems that this comment blew up quickly, and many people are replying by saying that Liston deserved no respect. I’ll respond to that with this: Liston did some terrible things. He was a leg-breaker. He beat people up. He tried to change, though. He visited schools and children hospitals, he went out of his way to do random acts of kindness, and he sought acceptance from the public. He tried his best, and with his background, I believe he did a good job trying to change. One big question that many of you should ask yourselves is that could Liston have said no to the mafia?

    • @anthonyortega1056
      @anthonyortega1056 Před 2 lety +67

      It’s sad . Wish more people would give him his respect . May he Rest In Peace

    • @outlaw49x10
      @outlaw49x10 Před 2 lety +35

      Respect for what? He was a criminal. What is respectable about that?

    • @dozzio
      @dozzio Před 2 lety +123

      @@outlaw49x10 same people who put Sir George Punch Pregnant Women in Stomach Floyd on a pedestal

    • @daithiocinnsealach3173
      @daithiocinnsealach3173 Před 2 lety +106

      @@outlaw49x10 He was heavyweight champ too. Respect that at least. Respect where it is due. You talk like he is totally worthless. You perfect? You ever hurt anyone?

    • @outlaw49x10
      @outlaw49x10 Před 2 lety +21

      @@daithiocinnsealach3173 liston is not due my respect. Don't get upset there buddy. If you want to worship and glorify thug criminals that's your business...i choose not to

  • @BlackyListon
    @BlackyListon Před rokem +16

    Rest in Power Sonny Liston

  • @elliottjones8354
    @elliottjones8354 Před 2 lety +613

    "For such a powerful man,
    He had very little power of his own life "
    - narrator
    Feels

  • @nobodysperfect06
    @nobodysperfect06 Před 2 lety +299

    "Sonny Liston stood up to me and actually made me give ground. No one has ever done that to me before or since."
    Quoted by George Foreman

  • @bobmathews9072
    @bobmathews9072 Před 9 měsíci +6

    Tyson was master of the pre-fight staredown , but even he’d have averted his eyes first from that baleful look

  • @commentingpausedtoprotectus

    I regularly watch this video and crazy as it sounds I still hope it has a happy ending but alas this was never his fate.
    It's heartbreaking really. But thank you for making this beautiful, respectful yet sad biography for this champion.

    • @RainyDayBoxing
      @RainyDayBoxing  Před rokem +9

      Glad you enjoyed my take on Sonny's story enough to watch it more than once!

  • @HeartOfStone.
    @HeartOfStone. Před 2 lety +450

    Such a sad story. It broke my heart to bits when he said he wanted to be a good champion over and over.

    • @jadenkrosis3087
      @jadenkrosis3087 Před 2 lety +47

      I was broken when this documentary showed him going back home after he won the world title and NOBODY was there to greet him and celebrate???
      If the internet existed back then, he would have had MANY, MANY people showing their support.

    • @MisTracy39TheVeganLady
      @MisTracy39TheVeganLady Před 2 lety +18

      @@jadenkrosis3087 I blame the SWAMP MEDIA! .. They are the enemy of mankind .. They've always worked for the devil! 👺💩

    • @indrakurniawan7050
      @indrakurniawan7050 Před 2 lety +6

      @@jadenkrosis3087 no. Obviously would me more devastating for him if internet was invented back then.

    • @esmcl
      @esmcl Před 2 lety +1

      I agree, felt the same way.

    • @joethompson758
      @joethompson758 Před 2 lety +3

      This is a truly heartbreaking story

  • @msfair3625
    @msfair3625 Před 2 lety +575

    His face when That little baby kissed his cheek.
    That tells me all I need to know.

    • @solank7620
      @solank7620 Před 2 lety +61

      Anyone know what timestamp in the video this is? Edit: 25:24

    • @ykcewfcvklptwasxxjirrbotrw3575
      @ykcewfcvklptwasxxjirrbotrw3575 Před 2 lety +6

      @@solank7620 thank you

    • @paquinraino8180
      @paquinraino8180 Před 2 lety +32

      He clearly lacked of love during his tough childhood with a dad who could only beat him

    • @joypaddad2386
      @joypaddad2386 Před 2 lety +4

      He just wanted to be loved coz he never felt it

    • @ennigmaa
      @ennigmaa Před 2 lety +3

      Indeed! It was heartbreaking 💔

  • @zarithhaikal8964
    @zarithhaikal8964 Před 3 měsíci +4

    7:45 scariest enterance

  • @TheKG636
    @TheKG636 Před 2 měsíci +2

    What a story, he’s like a character out of fiction.
    Tragic end for such a great man.

  • @sebastiaankrul2403
    @sebastiaankrul2403 Před 2 lety +711

    25:25 that smile is genuine. There isn't a lot of footage of liston genuinely smiling and looking happy. The poor guy deserved better

    • @thegraymouser12
      @thegraymouser12 Před 2 lety +57

      My favorite part of the video. You can't fake that natural reaction. It's instinctual to anybody who has a heart which he clearly did.
      What he dealt with as a child is comparable to a lifetime of suffering for other people. There was something inside this man that fought for meaning and purpose with a tenacity rarely seen in individuals.

    • @sludgerat666
      @sludgerat666 Před rokem +6

      @@thegraymouser12 great comment.

    • @niyazahmed3448
      @niyazahmed3448 Před rokem +1

      @Dino Sauro and no liston was not simply better, he would only land when ali had that shit in his eyes, Ali was always outclassing him

    • @st.charlesstreet9876
      @st.charlesstreet9876 Před rokem +3

      What he went through, he did deserve better. 🥺

    • @peaness7275
      @peaness7275 Před rokem

      @Dino Sauro You can have all the talent in the world, if its not in the right places to win against other talents it doesn't mean jack.

  • @hughjass42069
    @hughjass42069 Před rokem +402

    I met a guy who sparred Liston once and he said when Liston punched him *on the chin* for the first time, his glove was so big it covered both his eyes. He said people were afraid to spar HIM afterwards because he went 30 seconds with Sonny Liston.

    • @GreatMewtwo
      @GreatMewtwo Před rokem +21

      I always imagined that if his hands were as big as they say, either 8-ounce gloves would be too thin for him or he would have had to fight in at least 12-ounce gloves otherwise suited for bag work.

    • @CarlWidegrip
      @CarlWidegrip Před rokem +10

      Brother, that guy was bullshitting you.

    • @JCG-lb9gr
      @JCG-lb9gr Před rokem +24

      ​@@GreatMewtwo He was forced to wear 22 oz gloves in sparring and his partners wore chest protectors because he was known for breaking ribs in the gym. Liston was 1 of 1.

    • @getsugaallen6612
      @getsugaallen6612 Před 11 měsíci +2

      ​@@JCG-lb9gr interesting

    • @JCG-lb9gr
      @JCG-lb9gr Před 11 měsíci +13

      @@GreatMewtwo plenty of pics and videos out there of his ginormous hands. He was given custom gloves, I believe by Everlast, for fights. And they made him a special pair, 22 ozs!!!!, for sparring.

  • @ForgottenHorrorchannel
    @ForgottenHorrorchannel Před 8 měsíci +4

    Charles Sonny Liston - A Man

    • @Ken_Frazer-619
      @Ken_Frazer-619 Před 18 dny

      His gravestone should right Heavyweight Champion, Husband and father that A man shit is an insult

  • @robertowen1648
    @robertowen1648 Před 2 lety +394

    A heartbreaking story of a man that wanted to rise above a lot of sadness and mistreatment. You could see he loved children and had a kind heart. So sad. he had a lot to give but was denied that in this life.

  • @matthewsmith6051
    @matthewsmith6051 Před 2 lety +462

    How can you say his life was a tragedy? A flawed character who met a sad end yes, but he rose from the cotton field to heavyweight champion of the world, against all odds and with the weight of public opinion against him. That is triumph in itself. Great video of a boxing legend.

    • @TheJugga21
      @TheJugga21 Před 2 lety +75

      The only real tragedy is a living a life feeling greatly misunderstood despite doing incredible things

    • @fooeyfc4645
      @fooeyfc4645 Před 2 lety +36

      He died at 38

    • @athelstan927
      @athelstan927 Před 2 lety +7

      A real life.. a success story..I would doff my hat to him..

    • @PD-hv4js
      @PD-hv4js Před 2 lety +46

      and he never felt like a champion - that's the tragedy.

    • @djbenjaminjay1984
      @djbenjaminjay1984 Před 2 lety +9

      Idk how this isn't obviously tragic 🤷‍♂️

  • @WaldoBagelTopper
    @WaldoBagelTopper Před 9 měsíci +4

    Man I eat these classic fighters origin videos up. Fascinating lives. You really have to be a special kind of person to want to take the path of a fighter in life. I didn't have it, but I fantasized about it a lot as a kid.

  • @CardinalBiggles01
    @CardinalBiggles01 Před rokem +12

    Love that Ali said "trying to win the title? He will win it". Sad story for an amazing fighter. Hope he's at peace now

  • @mkocel
    @mkocel Před 2 lety +460

    A man trying to do his best with the cards he's dealt in a world rigged against him by cheaters. I never knew, thanks for the great video.

    • @timjustice3458
      @timjustice3458 Před 2 lety +8

      They should call u thief, cause u got a way with words

    • @maurice2014
      @maurice2014 Před 2 lety +3

      Trying his best? He just made certain decisions you wouldn't make yourself. We all make decisions. Personal morals dictate whether his decisions were or wrong. He himself called himself a "bad guy" indicating he admits prior wrong doing.

    • @timcountis9368
      @timcountis9368 Před 2 lety +8

      My dad took me to the second Clay/Liston fight at a closed circuit theater in Reno., when I was 16. We arrived late, just as Liston hit the mat from the phantom punch. Two years later I was a cub reporter for the university newspaper, and Liston was staying at the Mapes hotel, training for a fight. On a whim I drove down to the Mapes one afternoon, and found him leaning against a pillar in the lobby, with his arms folded across his chest. I whipped out a notebook and said I'd like an interview, but he gave me a look that said, 'uh uh, sorry kid,' and I scurried off. But what a presence! The most intimidating man I ever met. RIP Sonny

    • @kenrobinson7563
      @kenrobinson7563 Před 2 lety +5

      @@maurice2014 dude you’re a hater

    • @aesir0784
      @aesir0784 Před 2 lety +1

      Nah, man... can't say that. - He beat the odds but couldn't beat the demons. Still, one of the all-time greats.

  • @VishGur
    @VishGur Před 2 lety +421

    Sonny Liston looks like a great man born at the wrong time in the wrong place.

    • @gnewell8
      @gnewell8 Před 2 lety +2

      I agree

    • @SuperHugobox
      @SuperHugobox Před 2 lety +28

      I agree as well, it was very unfortunate that he was constantly accosted with the stigma of a being bad man, seems to me his size and looks were just too intimidating for white reporters to handle and they continuously retaliated out of racist malice, leaving him no choice but to seek friends with the wrong mob crowd, who used him any way they could, perpetuating his sad and tragic existence.

    • @keithhere5292
      @keithhere5292 Před 2 lety +12

      @@SuperHugobox correct , the media is/was racist-still to this day-the most racist element in society is the media

    • @TalibanSymphonyOrchestra
      @TalibanSymphonyOrchestra Před 2 lety +1

      Um he was a thief and a loser.

    • @malikak2661
      @malikak2661 Před 2 lety +3

      @@TalibanSymphonyOrchestra like your father

  • @benhogan8394
    @benhogan8394 Před rokem +17

    Never knew Liston was such a beast in the ring. What a crazy life, from rock bottom to baddest man on the planet. Brilliant Video

  • @DaDamuse
    @DaDamuse Před 9 měsíci +4

    "I'm plannin' on using both of 'em..." fkn gold🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @WorthlessDeadEnd
    @WorthlessDeadEnd Před 2 lety +1103

    This was just sad. I guess he was just a big, strong teddy bear in real life. The part about how disappointed he was when he got off the plane was astonishing, and the silence of the crowd when he won the championship the first time was jaw dropping. I never knew about any of this. Thank you for telling this man's story.

    • @TonyEnglandUK
      @TonyEnglandUK Před 2 lety +63

      24th of 25 children, arrested more than 100 times, ruled by organised crime. Man, a boxing match to Sonny must have been like a school break.

    • @thomas1630
      @thomas1630 Před 2 lety

      @@TonyEnglandUK Didnt know his real father. When he was born his mother was overstressed and burdonded, not much love.

    • @daoudatall2212
      @daoudatall2212 Před 2 lety +4

      Would he not be naturally strong he would die early

    • @TonyEnglandUK
      @TonyEnglandUK Před 2 lety +22

      @@daoudatall2212 His Father beat him so badly and so regularly it's a miracle he even got to his teens.

    • @Kikinahm
      @Kikinahm Před rokem +6

      At least his wife loved him.😢 Never trust strangers, of course. 😑

  • @RaytheGrayt
    @RaytheGrayt Před rokem +904

    The last part with him and those children. It'd be an understatement to say I have tears in my eyes. Poor man, he just wanted to be appreciated and treated fairly. Obviously none of us knew Sonny Liston, but judge a man how he is around children and the elderly, and you'll know what kind of man he truly is. Rest in peace Champ 🙏🏾

    • @leverdusoleiluk
      @leverdusoleiluk Před rokem +14

      I hear that Ray, I just finished watching it and the tears just flowed at the end. God bless Sonny Liston, RIEP Champ. 🙏🏼😪❤️

    • @Heart2HeartBooks
      @Heart2HeartBooks Před rokem +7

      But what was he like when no one was looking? He was a THUG! Get real.

    • @RaytheGrayt
      @RaytheGrayt Před rokem +38

      @@Heart2HeartBooks How do you know when you yourself said when no one was looking.

    • @ddmothafucka6006
      @ddmothafucka6006 Před rokem +1

      I felt the same

    • @kantovagrant3194
      @kantovagrant3194 Před rokem +12

      @T S But he was a thug, that tried to get out of being poor and make a good example out of his life. He's duplicitous in terms of his representation, on the one hand the public views him as a thug, on the other hand the public viewed him as a saint, He was just a man.

  • @whathappenedwas7083
    @whathappenedwas7083 Před rokem +26

    Mister Liston was dealt a bad hand, physically unstoppable but he had a spirit and heart that needed love but felt more control and power striking others. It’s all he was ever shown from his dad. So sad to see everyone treat him second class for not being their poster child.

  • @cashflodigitalsportsnetwork

    Sonny Liston was just unpolished raw talent…. Not to mention, his up bringing and harsh life, he made it that far to be one of the greatest boxers ever.

  • @rockydubois1052
    @rockydubois1052 Před 2 lety +427

    Imagine losing 10k on the Ali vs Liston fight and your booky sends Liston to collect.

  • @princess4509
    @princess4509 Před 2 lety +556

    we can only imagine the man he’d have been if he was given the support he desperately needed from a young age

    • @auguste573
      @auguste573 Před 2 lety +17

      He was never given the chance to change and leave the bad behind him, he was denied, he was judged.

    • @princess4509
      @princess4509 Před 2 lety +6

      @@auguste573 support starts early and trauma is never an excuse to perpetuate harm on others i personally don’t believe in redemption arcs if you hurt people you deserve to be judged and punished

    • @princess4509
      @princess4509 Před 2 lety +3

      @@auguste573 no one should be allowed to just “leave bad behind them” if they perpetuate the bad if you commit murder you shouldn’t be able to just walk away from it and the same goes for other traumas but that’s just me ig i’ve never been a terrible person despite my traumatic childhood and i think that my abusers and especially my rapist should live tortured and rot in hell

    • @ghost_strucid6579
      @ghost_strucid6579 Před 2 lety +3

      @@princess4509 to me it depends on what you do, if you fight alot and steal perhaps or do low leveled things I feel you should be able to walk away. Things like unprovoked murders and of course rapes shouldn't be forgave imo because those are the worst things you can do to another human being

    • @princess4509
      @princess4509 Před 2 lety +2

      @@ghost_strucid6579 it really depends on the reasons why you fight or steal and who with if you’re fighting in self defense that’s understandable if you purposely go out of your way to provoke people that’s a problem if you steal out of desperation or poverty that’s one thing but if you steal because you’re greedy or want to satiate a desire for unnecessary commodities that’s cruel at the end of the day all actions eventually affect something or someone else at some point. it’s less about what explicitly is a crime and more about who gets hurt and the entitlement of those who hurt others the amount of self absorption to not consider how their actions affect others. abandoning one’s children isn’t really a crime nor is it always enforced that a parent raise their child but either way that child will grow up traumatized and confused about why their parent didn’t want them and that emotional pain that could’ve been avoided goes unpunished and unchecked. there’s always gonna be selfish people and people make mistakes in an ideal world karma would play out and things would be equal besides punishment being equal to injustice would teach people a lesson about empathy.

  • @f1remandg
    @f1remandg Před 3 měsíci +2

    Incredible man, abused by all who wanted to abuse! I’m 73 and from U.K. and I remember how he was characterised, it was racism by the police, victimisation on a man who had been abused and when he won deserved better!

  • @qwertz7430
    @qwertz7430 Před 11 měsíci +10

    Seeing Liston crying at 21:26 absolutely broke my heart. He deserved so much better...

    • @cloudgary7596
      @cloudgary7596 Před 8 měsíci +4

      That’s water from his head

    • @qwertz7430
      @qwertz7430 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Could be either. My point is still valid regardless. Sonny deserved so much better. @@cloudgary7596

  • @JjRui3
    @JjRui3 Před 2 lety +618

    Bro can we get more short documentaries like this from you, I actually really loved this like no joke

    • @SteveCabana-ir7jt
      @SteveCabana-ir7jt Před 2 lety +10

      Same here bro

    • @RainyDayBoxing
      @RainyDayBoxing  Před 2 lety +98

      Definitely more to come, stay tuned!

    • @GustavoSilva-oc5wo
      @GustavoSilva-oc5wo Před 2 lety +20

      @@RainyDayBoxing Can't wait! I really love these docs u make the jack Johnson jack Dempsey and sonny liston I loved them all great work! Keep it up I really love these docs love the work your doing my fav boxing chanel on yt!!

    • @donguapo7862
      @donguapo7862 Před 2 lety +4

      @@RainyDayBoxing this was well put together

    • @finestthangwalkin
      @finestthangwalkin Před 2 lety +3

      @@RainyDayBoxing can you tell me the music at 19:28

  • @MarkAnderson-vg5vq
    @MarkAnderson-vg5vq Před 2 lety +486

    So sad how from birth to death, He wasn't respected until years later after knowing what he's been through . R I P my brother 🙏🏽 , Excellent video .

    • @blakelowrey9620
      @blakelowrey9620 Před 2 lety +2

      Poor guy. He was not a monster.

    • @JohnTianoTheSutterStBand
      @JohnTianoTheSutterStBand Před 2 lety

      Have no fear😉He was respected by people who see the light

    • @JohnTianoTheSutterStBand
      @JohnTianoTheSutterStBand Před 2 lety +1

      No need to worrie about those who can't see it yet👌It won't be long.😱

    • @paulbrewer2374
      @paulbrewer2374 Před 2 lety +1

      Sonny's life was tragic. He never got the second chance he yearned for with the public; to be their Champ and to enjoy the respect and adulation of his Heavyweight Champion predecessors - to be the People's Champion.
      Sonny Liston: No man ever overcame such terrible obstacles in his life only to be shunned by the public at large when he finally succeeded. I've always felt so sorry for him.

    • @mathewmcdonald3657
      @mathewmcdonald3657 Před 2 lety

      Well said.

  • @Mozlove
    @Mozlove Před rokem +11

    I didnt think the ending of this documentary would be so touching. I actually felt a loss of someone i cares deeply for and never met beautifully done. Honestly didnt think you could makeit to fit i. Tbe short span but you really gave us a very deep sense of his life....great work!!

  • @nicktozie6685
    @nicktozie6685 Před rokem +9

    Thanks for not letting this boxing giant be forgotten.

  • @doublem1975x
    @doublem1975x Před 2 lety +270

    This is legitimately better than the showtime Liston doc that came out a couple years ago. A big network should hire you.

    • @RainyDayBoxing
      @RainyDayBoxing  Před 2 lety +38

      You flatter me, thank you brother! 🙏

    • @jasonbournesburner3845
      @jasonbournesburner3845 Před 2 lety +15

      Hire him? no! make your own media company bruh! don't let them control you. you sign your own cheques.

    • @Whosyourdaddy21
      @Whosyourdaddy21 Před 2 lety +13

      A big network would ruin this almost instantly

    • @AramGoat
      @AramGoat Před 2 lety +3

      It’s better when a person does it for enjoyment than a paycheck

    • @Pody257
      @Pody257 Před 2 lety +2

      @@AramGoat you can’t eat enjoyment

  • @Linkmyssing
    @Linkmyssing Před 2 lety +865

    It’s amazing to me that there is so much history of media bullying and discrediting of anyone who doesn’t fit their narrative and people still follow the lies today.

    • @rockydubois1052
      @rockydubois1052 Před 2 lety +70

      Exactly. The hippies of the day were right. Tune out and turn off. And stop buying their bs man! Too bad they all now support big government big pharma and watch CNN for their "news"

    • @ShawnFX
      @ShawnFX Před 2 lety +15

      oh so now people are realizing that MSM has always been full of BS?? don't you people call those who do not agree with the MSM stories and reporting conspiracy wackos because they have a different opinion than MSM?

    • @Linkmyssing
      @Linkmyssing Před 2 lety +7

      @@ShawnFX I didn’t come down in the last shower champ.

    • @stdomingoblues1187
      @stdomingoblues1187 Před 2 lety +1

      Well said

    • @nfol6420
      @nfol6420 Před 2 lety +7

      Fuck the lying media until today

  • @aldrichunfaithful3589
    @aldrichunfaithful3589 Před měsícem +1

    i've watched this documentary multiple times at this point. the first time i saw it i was shocked and heartbroken, and every time i've seen it since i've felt the same way. he wasn't innocent or perfect by any means, but he went through so much and pretty much got forced into a life of crime by an unfair world that wanted nothing to do with him, and that world refused to give him a second chance no matter how hard he tried. im just glad there were some bright moments for him, and that he gets the recognition he deserves today.

  • @Dino_Medici
    @Dino_Medici Před 9 měsíci +2

    No one there to greet him on the tarmac is one of coldest things I’ve ever heard

  • @hawaiidispenser
    @hawaiidispenser Před 2 lety +128

    I had heard of the name Sonny Liston, but today I finally found out who he was. What a great documentary.

    • @anyexpat
      @anyexpat Před 2 lety +3

      Totally agree, amazing 30 mins

    • @MRGF78
      @MRGF78 Před 2 lety +1

      Same here... only knew his name...

  • @salvitoripopadillo4539
    @salvitoripopadillo4539 Před 2 lety +573

    As a man who was loved and encouraged as a child, I have the deepest empathy for men like Sonny and Mike Tyson who grew up with such horrific environments. My late best friends dad (who's like an uncle to me) grew up with the same abuse and I have the deepest respect for where and who he is today. RIP Charles Liston!

    • @luyindafarads4676
      @luyindafarads4676 Před 2 lety +7

      RIP SONNY

    • @leonardorodriguez9919
      @leonardorodriguez9919 Před 2 lety +33

      Men in that era in time didn't know what love was from a father, men were hard and closed emotionally . I did not understand my fathers lack of love till I was a man seeing he could not give what he never had which made me a hard man but I recognize my flaws and their roots so I give my son all the love I can RIP Champ

    • @salvitoripopadillo4539
      @salvitoripopadillo4539 Před 2 lety +12

      @@leonardorodriguez9919 That's great to hear! It takes a lot of courage to stop the cycle! Well done! I believe the love you show your children will come back to you!

    • @madsleonardholvik3040
      @madsleonardholvik3040 Před 2 lety +2

      @@salvitoripopadillo4539 Yes, and Tyson did it by smoking DMT and realized he is loved and can love.

    • @TypicalIndian1981
      @TypicalIndian1981 Před 2 lety +1

      Rip sonny Liston

  • @alexduran2476
    @alexduran2476 Před rokem +12

    It's frustrating what happened to Liston. Like many boxers, he came from a rough start. But unlike boxers after him including Ron Lyle, Iron Mike, and even AJ today (all convicted/served jail time), he wasn't allowed a redemption arc for his past. If he'd lived into the 70s, I think he'd been more accepted and ended up commentating fights/helping train boxers. Sonny just lived in a time where society wasn't very accepting/forgiving. He's got a big fanbase now, but sucks he didn't have it when he needed it.

  • @austiny6539
    @austiny6539 Před rokem +5

    Such a sad story, he came from nothing worked his way up from jailbird to heavyweight champ and everyone hated him. But he did great with the cards he was dealt. Rest in peace champ

  • @thesatisfiedcustomer4869
    @thesatisfiedcustomer4869 Před 2 lety +817

    weird how they say how angry he was with the press. He was actually polite in my book. treating the interviewer equally. That was regarded as aggression then. wow. new viewer. From UK but live in sydney 20yrs. That was brilliant. Subscribed.

    • @jayday7805
      @jayday7805 Před 2 lety +5

      Yur terrible

    • @koollee
      @koollee Před 2 lety +39

      Youre right. He jus recieved hatred no matter what. Jus like when Ali used to say Frazier was too ugly to be the Heavy weight champ of the world.
      People jus hated on Liston so he accepted the bad guy role, like fk it.

    • @DanceySteveYNWA
      @DanceySteveYNWA Před 2 lety +19

      Why did you feel it necessary to tell us your address history? 😂

    • @SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs
      @SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs Před 2 lety +5

      Glad to find a fellow Sydney man 👌

    • @mokeballs6676
      @mokeballs6676 Před 2 lety +6

      Sydney gang

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    @brandonhall4547 Před 2 lety +319

    Bro you’re talented . This is masterfully edited.

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      some fake god require to eat food some worship stone and some worship real god but not follow his order .
      If God eat food then have call of nature means need toilet . it is not the quality of god so remove these fake gods now .
      Adam , Jesus , Moses Abraham Were messengers of allah before muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam And Adam Was first man and prophet so it shows that islam is from beginning.
      Allah is only one God and prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam allah's last messenger .
      messenger means which get message from God .
      jesus is neither a god nor a son of god , he was a messenger of god
      1) ACCORDING TO CHRISTIANITY
      when people tryied to torture JESUS
      and want to beat him and kill him even they were thinking to hang on neils etc etc etc
      and after that they started to worship him as a god and also as a son of god they are fool and they fooled you you are also following their fake path
      is it a quality of god that any one can beat him and to nail jail and hang him torture him think it NOW
      2) Jesus Eat Food When He Was Hungry
      is it a quality of god ? ( Hungry God ) if he eat food then also do toilet
      at that time no toilet seat was there so they used to do that in hidden in grass and back of some trees and stones etc
      is it a quality of God ? No
      First Order Of Creator Is .
      1) Allah / Iswar / God is only one god and prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam allah's Last messenger
      2) namaz / salah / prayer according to prophet muhammad sallallahu alehi vasallam
      we cant worship muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam . we worship only creator ALLAH .
      if we worship muhammad then we will be in hell .
      Keep in mind that Muhammad Sallallahu Alehi Wasallam cannot make a single fly . before prophet muhammad ; adam , jesus , noah , moses had came but we cant pray to any prophet .
      if some one make cartoon of any prophet even jesus , moses , noah , adam etc then we muslim will fight to them like in france a case happened ,
      DONT JUDGE MUSLIM to see islam ,
      to see islam you should read QURAN and sunnah of prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam .
      in islam worship only creator one allah in the way that he tells to his messenger to do .
      what will happen after death with you ? if you obey allah's order or disobey.
      and you can check my playlist full quran and more links about what is islam and who is ALLAH
      read full must instead of wasting time and songs and movies .
      i promise you will know everything that you want , so plz minimum one time
      read Quran it is a word of god , you will know what is written inside in it .
      read full quran english translation from youtube and books .
      and you can check my playlist full quran ..,..m .,.,...,.

    • @661ufos
      @661ufos Před 2 lety +4

      @@true1330 allah is the devil a false god

    • @mr.makedonija2627
      @mr.makedonija2627 Před 2 lety +3

      @@661ufos yup...and mohammed was a p e d o

  • @juuk3103
    @juuk3103 Před rokem +11

    Man the tears won't stop...... Those last minutes just shows you someone that just wanted to be accepted, and his comment about wanting to work with children at youth centers after boxing

  • @KayyZohh
    @KayyZohh Před rokem +8

    This man deserves a movie. Legend

  • @missayawk
    @missayawk Před 2 lety +392

    Sonny loved children.His face lights up when he's around kids because he knows their innocence.He had a rough childhood and in an almost Michael Jackson way, children made him happy and gave him the joy he didn't have has a child.

    • @missayawk
      @missayawk Před 2 lety +43

      @Giant Face Bork Laser Michael loved kids for their innocence.They didn't have a motive or an agenda.Both he and Sonny saw the wholesomeness to children which made them smile knowing they both didn't have a typical childhood.Understand?

    • @robertmurphy3014
      @robertmurphy3014 Před 2 lety +38

      @Giant Face Bork Laser There is never been any evidence Michael Jackson ever molested anyone.

    • @BFMfilms
      @BFMfilms Před 2 lety +11

      @@robertmurphy3014 Yes there has been

    • @terryknutson3202
      @terryknutson3202 Před 2 lety +11

      You say Mr. Liston name in the same sentence as that other???

    • @joeycard17
      @joeycard17 Před 2 lety +20

      @Giant Face Bork Laser except there’s no evidence so