What do China's latest military drills around Taiwan mean for the region? | Inside Story
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- China has escalated the scale of its military exercises in the Taiwan Strait over the past two years, while the United States has increased its rhetoric in support of the island.
Beijing claims sovereignty over Taiwan.
The Democratic Progressive Party, which has championed a separate Taiwanese identity, has secured a third presidential term.
President Lai Ching-te said in his inauguration speech that Taiwan is already a sovereign nation.
Beijing has responded angrily with the latest round of military drills.
So where does China go from here? And how far is the US willing to go in support of Taiwan?
Presenter: Tom McRae
Guests:
Fang-yu Chen - Assistant professor of political science at Soochow University, Taiwan
Victor Gao - Vice President of the Center for China and Globalization
Tomohiko Taniguchi - Special adviser at the Fujitsu Future Studies Centre. He advised Japan's cabinet during Shinzo Abe's administration
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The fact is that both US and Japan do not recognize Taiwan as a country and no offiical foreign relationship with so called Taiwan government.
It is a very complicated issue but basic facts are quite clear.
US is using Taiwan as a tool for maintaining its influence in APAC. The key is US vs China, not Japan , or Taiwan itself.
Does what you said above matter? If the war breaks up across Taiwan Strait will the US and Japan come help Taiwan?
Every thing was burn by US only.
Spot on. “Useful idiots” is the right term.
Actually, the US doesn't use Taiwan to maintain influence in APAC... it uses Taiwan to demonise China and drive paranoia about China in its citizens for domestic political gains.
nah, Taiwan is already independent. Taiwan is south Korea and China is north Korea, one cry's like baby and the other chills out with a bunch of rich nations.
I just want to point out two facts:
1. The Taiwan everyone is referring to here has a legal name called the Republic of China (ROC)
2. The constitution of ROC states that ROC is the rightful government of the entirety of China including Mainland China. And in “Act Governing Relations between the People of the Taiwan Area and the Mainland Area” it stated many times “Prior to the unification of our country…”
Quote " ROC is the rightful government of the entirety of China including Mainland China". What a beautiful dream when the world at large does not recognize Taiwan as a country!
And the idea has been shot down by UN and US long time ago. The world only recognize PRC not ROC. Go to a proper school will help, and don’t go to the Twain’s propaganda school will definitely help.
@@laminpapan2650 NoNoNo, You dont understand . Its a form of "There is only one China in the world." That makes ROC and PRC 's relationship a unfinished civil war.Its not Taiwan is dreaming . Cai and Lai dreaming to change their constitution to get rid of this line . But that means declar war on China.😅
That statement acknowledges Taiwan is a part of China. Or if you like China is a part of Taiwan. Not independent of each other.
You are agreeing to resort to force, from either side.
Why did you invite this Japanese scholar? it is none of Japan’s business
yes,agree
Psyop / Propaganda to make it appears that everyone from the world is against China.
Because the Taiwanese expert don’t have a leg to stand on. Listen to him.
@@BatCountryAdventures Because 'The Republic of China' doesn't have a leg to stand on.
What has Japan got to do with this
Lai's sons and daughters are living in USA not fighting for democracy in Taiwan. That's all you need to know about him.
hhhh the taiwanese people should take a look at Ukrainians, to get out of Ukrain is costing about 15k dollars
be cautious about fighting in these days
Imagine being upset about someone with the capacity of providing higher quality of self determination and life for his family while also uplifting the desire for it in his nation.
That he cares about his children? I dont understand, whats the problem?
@@heartpaid6767 So whichever country you're from, you are a good citizen if you're actually a US citizen, but not if you live in your country?
@@Peace_Guard what are you talking about?
I'm impressed they invited a kid.
A foolish kid.
what a stupid kid
Typical Taiwanese. No guts for independence, always want to rely on US.
You're kidding
He's a giant baby
two kids
It's always so entertaining to watch victor, i love this guy.😂 Keep inviting him back!
To the Japanese guy on the show, we support independence of Okinawa!
Okinawa doesn't need your support because they don't need independence, wtf😂
@@YUTAB-ck9rpOkinawa will naturally become independent from Japan just like the old days, after China takes over Taiwan.
If Japan involve in this war，Japan may only have four big islands left
You know Japan pays for US military presence
@@YUTAB-ck9rpI'm hearing daily complaints about US troops stationed in Okinawa from Okinawans. The message is clear, US troops aren't welcomed
“Japan lost the war to China’s previous government, not to the current government?” Wow that is the most dangerous comment I have heard. Imagine if Germany said it, what would be the reactions among European countries including Russia. lol
Agreed lol, what a stupid claim by the Japanese 😅
Stupid Japanese commentator. Japan lost the war. The country accepted the defeat unconditionally. That is an unbreakable vow. Thanks to the two nuclear bombs.
That Japanese do not understand the definition of shame.
Because by promoting this logic the Japanese can have a basis to free themselves from all the restrictions that are the consequences of losing WW2 and normalise.
Implying also, the same imperial Japan.
Best part was when Mr. Gao said China invading Taiwan was like the the Union invading the Confederate States of America. Amazing, 10/10
Ask the Tibetans, Uighurs how they feel about your point ☝️ defacto occupied territories. Let the Taiwanese decide their own faith it's what it's about, any person supporting war is a uneducated fool and when push comes to shove those same fools run and cry! Signed by 4 year war vet!
Remember! Taiwan is Republic of China which was founded in 1911. PRC was renegaded from ROC, founded in 1949. Victor needs read the history carefully, so do you.
@@johnyan836 The civil war of China since 1945 has not been ended until today.
And the pursuit of independence made the current Taiwan regime lose their legitimacy (if they had any) when they betrayed Mr Sun Yat-Sen's goal of building a unified and strong China.
Never mind the FACT that the Chinese Communist Government has NEVER in its history ruled or controlled Taiwan! Maybe you should learn history and little things called "FACTS".
lol
That Japanese is a dangerous man, Japan lost to the previous government of China in WW2, not the current government. This means if a country's government changed, does the country tear all legal binding documents to pieces? Imagine Germany's government not accepting the 1945 surrender, calling it the 'previous' government agreement. The current government has never signed those documents. Stupidity to the max.
A treaty is nothing but a written agreement between parties. If one of the parties ceases to exist the treaty becomes void, that's perfectly reasonable and legal. I'm certainly no expert, but I think in this case the treaty of Taipei was signed between Japan and the ROC, and was terminated already in 1972 when Japan established relations with the PRC.
@@drapedblack7517 The strong make the rules, the weak exploit the rules, and only idiots believe the rules are unchangeable truths.
@@drapedblack7517 indeed my friend you are not an expert. Japan now officially recognizes only one China and Taiwan is part of China.
the Japanese panelist, if he has the dignity and decency to try to prove his point, he can always try to ask his government to issue official statement recognizing Taiwan as an independent state and see how does that go.
actually I'm curious, in fact intrigued, to see how far Japanese right wing would go to bring another war in Asia
China called the 1997 Joint Sino-British Declaration a "historical document". It is not even a different party:)
@@drapedblack7517 You are indeed not an expert and you are wrong. The Victor Gao was the only one talking in terms of international law - research it if you doubt this random person on the internet. It's really more than distasteful for Japan to be involving itself in this, any historical awareness of WW2 makes this patently obvious. SMFH
Victor said it very well,applaud for you!
This guy remembers every word of what he has said. I've seen his interview in several occasions and almost EVERY word coming out of his mouth was the SAME.
Lai didnt want to stay status quo, he claimed taiwan independence in his inaguration speech. You cant act tough and as a victim at the same time
Tiananmen Square massacre of 1989
@@EvilsoriHC so? Tank ran over your mom?
That is the status quo though, haven't seen any PRC police, currency, politician, or any sort of official presence in Taiwan.
He didn't proclaim independence, as politicians have said before them, the ROC (Taiwan) is already independent, just in the same way South Korea is independent from North Korea.
@@Cricrithezar Problem is that the DPP activist position for the past 50 years or so is that Taiwan is a distinct nation from China, similar to Japan being distinct from China.
Yet the DPP, in its quest for money, power and status, openly recognized the ROC in 1998-1999 so that its then political star Chen Shui-bian could run for the ROC presidency.
(Yes, DPP did also contest the 1996 election but that did not matter that much since DPP had no real chance of winning the Presidency)
If you insist 1 China only means the PRC and nothing else, that effectively makes you a CCP sympathizer.😊😊
The 1 China policy is not just about PRC. It means either PRC or ROC but not both at the same time.
China's emperor refuses to admit to facts but stay in his fantasies.
This Japanese dude forgot what Jimmy Carter said in front of the camera telling the world that Taiwan is part of China.
I also said in front of many cameras Taiwan is a independent country. Anyway, Jimmy who????
@@megatron6393 What year did you get elected as the US president?
@@LCCATCX I was never elected US President. Anyway Jimmy who????
@@megatron6393 Jimmy Carter was a US President. How can you compared to him?
@@LCCATCX Of course I cannot compare with Jimmy who??? It will be an insult to me. You see, I do not lie. Jimmy who?? lied all the time. Isn't that what Americans been saying about their Presidents? They are all LIARS. You are much better off listening to my hard truths than sick lies of Jimmy who???
Applause to Victor Gao for his calm and firm statement on Taiwan issue. The unification of Taiwan has been there for 75 years after china civil war not a new one. Key role of Taiwan is between China and US, not Taiwan nor Japan which are just vassals of US. Anchor should invite someone from US to speak on the matter.
The Wild fact is--according to Taiwan's Constitution, the whole mainland China, even Mongolia belongs to Taiwan. So based on their theory, Taiwan is not just China, it's China plus Mongolia.🤣
Rhapsody for fools!
If Taiwan is part of China, why is TSMC involved in sanctioning China?🤣
@@charleschoy2327 Look up the Republic of China Constitution yourself
@@charleschoy2327 這是歷史，蒙古🇲🇳就是從中國分裂出去的，你應該多看看書😂
@@user-dq4lk9es8v 蒙古將來被佔領， 與沖繩和許多島嶼一起； 台灣第一榮譽；不許分裂 . 最後的談判就是使用武力！
China should speak in a language they understand.
1) In 1894, Japan invaded China and Korea, the Qing govt was defeated and signed the [Treaty of Shimonoseki] to cede Taiwan Island to Japan.
2) During the WW2, at the Cairo Conference held in 1943, China asked the transfer of Taiwan's sovereignty back to China after the war. This content was included in the [Cairo Declaration] and later reiterated in the [Potsdam Proclamation] that it should be implemented.
3) In 14 Aug & 2 Sept 1945, the Emperor and govt of Japan issued the [End War Edict] and [Japanese Instrument of Surrender], Japan surrendered and accepted the [Potsdam Proclamation]. Japanese troops in Taiwan surrendered to KMT General CKS and Taiwan re-entered the territory of the Republic of China (ROC).
4) Soon after that China civil war broke out in between KMT and CCP, the KMT was defeated and fled to Taiwan. However, due to US intervention, the CCP without strong navy at that time has no ability to unify Taiwan. The CCP then established the People's Republic of China (PRC) in 1949. The civil war continues.
5) In 1971, UN Resolution No. 2758 ruled that the PRC had obtained the representation rights and all legal rights originally owned by the ROC in the UN. That means the PRC is China’s only legal govt under international law and is recognized by 181 countries around the world, including the USA.
"The USA recognizes the Government of the PRC as the sole legal Government of China."
"The USA acknowledges the Chinese position that there is but one China and Taiwan is part of China."
Joint Cummunique on the Establishment of Diplomatic relations between the PRC and the USA in 1979.
Please refer to President Jimmy Carter's Speech on Relations with China.
6) Therefore, according to international law, international reality, and the wishes of the 1.4 billion Chinese people, Taiwan should return to PRC and the PRC have every rights to protect it's sovereign integrity.
Point number 2 is not without controversy. The US claims Taiwan wasn't formally returned, the ROC just fled to Taiwan leading to the status quo.
China's 1.4 billion people, as non-taiwanese citizens, do not have a say in Taiwan's government, just in the same way they cannot vote in US presidential elections. By your logic India could just vote to annex china and china would just have to roll over and accept it, since India has more people than China.
@@Cricrithezar
US is not god, we need to follow international law. Taiwan returned to China according to international law.
Acknowledment is not an agreement. Taiwan is not part of Communist China, the PRC. The Civil War was never concluded, only ended. You lost the last time you tried to take it, and the U.S. helped Taiwan fend off the invasion. Apparently, you are planning to try your luck again. You will lose again, and badly.
To that point, 1.4 billion chinese do not even get a say in their own government, much less anyone else's.
US is not God, and you are not a US citizen, so stop posing
i don't know what's that japanese guy doing here.... his country lost the war and returned the occupied lands so there's nothing to do with his country
He just said it’s a few kilometers from their land and therefore presents a security concern for Japan. Are you paying attention?
@@tylerbenrich In that case he should shut up. Japan has no sovereign interest in Taiwan. They lost that in 1945. Remember?
@@paulmatters2641 did you read what I just said?
@@tylerbenrich china is not targeting japan.. taiwan is a domestic affair so yes he should've shut up
@@fatdoi003 actually China and Japan are in a territorial dispute over the senkaku islands which is very close to Taiwan. Just like the guy from said is a few kilometers from their land and a perfect opportunity for China to claim the islands while there warships attempt to take Taiwan. Japan would be foolish to sit by idly why China tries to take Taiwan. They bully the Philippines in their own seas. It makes sense to me why they would want to stop this bully in their tracks.
I just wanna know how much the Americans have made with those wars going on around the world
Bingo!
Youd rather know that then understand the global ramifications if Taiwan were to fall into China's hands or if TSMCs facilities were to be destroyed in the war. Critical thinking has died a terrible death.
Don't know... but the US will provide aides to Taiwan more than 10 billion dollars in the coming years.
not enough to make American citizens able to buy foods and houses lol
@@BaoBaoAmateur Have you ever been to the US?
Be prepared
Very clear, Victor Gao answered: "BE PREPARE!"
it's: Be prepareD.
prepared for more than 70 years? How come, Be prepared for another 70 year s.
@@yellow7885 Just wait and see, no hurry.
Every time Taniguchi San came to this show, he does personal attack on Mr. GAO rather than offering any useful commentary to the situation.
I disagree. Mr. San is stating the truth and doesn't make any personal attack. You cannot tell lies.
@@revelries1807 no; telling Gao that his Chinese communist political party was not even a part of the signatory when Japan surrendered Taiwan to USA is a personal attack. Think of the feeling of the 1.2 billion Chinese who never know this fact and the millions Beijing spent to cover it up this fact.
^Come to think of it; why did Beijing failed to pay the over 800 billion of debt the Ancient China owes to other nations when itself claim to be the only China.
O____o Gimme The Goods and not the bill? - wow, I never realize how attractive being a communist party is up until now (sarcasm)
It’s not truth, his view is unconstitutional.
Victor is bullying everybody.
Yes, what qualifications does this Japanese have to point fingers here? Okinawa is illegally occupied by Japan, and his real name is Ryukyu!
Not only was Taniguchi's deliberate misinterpretation of the Japanese unconditional surrender was only to the then ruling ROC but not the PRC foolish, it is also extremely dangerous. This is how wars get started, Blatant denial of a signed international document.
Lai swear in as the president of republic of China,not Taiwan in its constitution.
Yes, and he ironically says the ROC and PRC are two different countries, LOL😂 totally against the constitution on both sides! That idiot Lai is already on the separatists list and will be removed shortly!
Long live Taiwan
The body language & demeaning gestures of the Taiwanese speaker is like that of an agitated & spoiled schoolboy.
The Taiwanese speaker was trying to play the VICTIM CARD!!
Y'all give me a fkn break.. the Chinese will change wording on anything to make it look like it belongs to them just like printing maps that fit their agenda.. if Taiwan wants to rejoin China peacefully sure go for it but if China moves on Taiwan with force we the Americans will be there because you can't just take countries by forcing more it's not the world we live in anymore and it's not the world we need to be living in.. Xi xingping is a self-absorbed psychopath and murderer just in case you didn't know
It is sad to see the corrupting influence of foreign propaganda on the impressionable young minds in Taiwan. The young people in Taiwan largely don't think they are Chinese anymore. That sure appears to be cultural genocide to me.
Yes, I think it's very impolite and disrespectful to other guests
The young people in Taiwan are convinced by the propagandists and largely don't think they are Chinese anymore. That sure appears to be cultural genocide to me.
You should add the video what Jimmy carter said in front of the world before starting the debate
Lai was literally declaring taiwan's independence in his inaguration speech. At this point, I am afriaid that a war is eventually inevitable.
Might be necessary to cure some Asians of their inferiority complex.
question would be how much of Beijing's economic will tank from it... this is while its seeking foreign investors to bail out its property sector that outside tier 1-2 cities... some had declined by over 20-35% and this is even without there being a hot war.
@@michaelwang6125 people repeating these "china is about to collapse!" lines have been wrong for decades. gordan g chang has been saying it since 2001 lol - it's not going to happen
@@Alexander-vo4gv No kidding! Every time YT forces one of those videos in my face, I immediately block the channel. And, if China really needed money, all it has to do is unload its US Treasury Bonds. That would hurt China, but China would recover. However, it would destroy the US. BTW, China has already decreased bond holdings, and I don't blame them.
With the US always wanting wars everywhere, probably. Hey, apparently, US taxpayers have bottomless pockets!
US Recognizes Taiwan separatists, but not Donetsk & Luhansk separatists. Hypocrisy.
U.S. recognizes the legitimate sovereignty of Ukraine, and rejects Russia's false assertions of Donbas secession.
In no way the same thing!
Anyway, there were no Donetsk & Luhansk separatists at least only a minority in the areas, and mainly because they were paid off by russia. The soldiers have been proven to mainly be russian soldiers who removed their insignias and Putin already acknowledged they did in Crimea! A clear breach of the UN charters and international law!
Taiwan on the other hand has never been part of the PRC, and the population has no interest in being part of the PRC. They have their own money, economy, military and justice system.
They got a fairly elected President, something the PRC has never had!
Actually, US sees China as one country
Yep it is but Taiwan should be independent and so should the Russians in their regions, US hypocrisy is both unbearable and laughable at times but what Taiwan has is worth protecting look up what Communist China did to the Uighurs with "re-education camps", nobody would want that. If the people want freedom in Tibet, East Turkestan and Taiwan then they should have it especially from Communists.
@@mwtrolle You simply don't know your history: 國立故宮博物院 - strange
The Chinese are wasting their time. Why not recognise Puerto Rico and Hawaii and start dealing with them directly without any consultation with Washington.
Hawaii is a us state weither you like it or not they not going to even try
That's completely wrong. Taiwan is not part of Communist China. The Civil War was never concluded, only ended.
@@JustUnKnownDub00Hawaii native have been asking for independence since illegal occupation by US.
@jamesmiller2735 pure stupidity, sure if they declared their independence or said they had never been part of the US, you could have point, but they haven't!
@@JustUnKnownDub00 How did Hawaii become part of the US?
Invasion anyone?🤣🤣🤣
Japan? You forgot about your closest neighbour in the north? Wake up
Polar bear is busy dying in Ukraine.
@@johnyan836
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
R U STUPID, IDIOT, CRAZY OR WHAT ❓❓❓
true
Polar bear already occupied north Japan
@@johnyan836 You don't know Russia has a Pacific fleet? you don't know Russian missiles are on the Kuril Islands aimed at Japan? You don't know that Russia is winning in Ukraine?
Don't comment like an idiot before knowing about Taiwan's Constitution ......
Taiwan's Constitution states that most of China's mainland provinces belong to Taiwan including Beijing and Shanghai....
Who ever give you thumbs up is an idiot like you too.
If so, then, it means they're the same country. You just lost in court
The civil war was never concluded. That's as dumb as PRC claiming Taiwan.
yes and ROC still claims the entire Mongolia，part of Khazakhstan and part of Russia
That means it's a civil war
however US has not done any reaction while china is drill. this indicates China is doing something right. go China! take back Taiwan!
Why not interview a pro-unification Taiwanese instead of the Japanese guy? It's none of Japan's business!
exactly!
Exactly. This news outlet is so biased against China
不支持統一的臺灣人比支持統一的還要多好幾百萬人，所以為什舔中跪共的國民黨會敗選
Japan lost in WWII, had to return Taiwan to China. They should not have any say on this subject. I don't know why this Japanese guy was invited here. This should be just between Mainland and Taiwan!
Because China is eyeballing the Senkaku islands as well like true imperialists not forgetting the SCS, how many more land is Chinese in the neighborhood? Is Vietnam, Phillipines, Japan next on the menu they obviously are aren't they!
BS!
And completely irrelevant in this discussion.
@@Torcasoltathe colony known as Japan is involved because master ordered it to get involved, nothing more.
@Torcasolta Do u know ROC(Taiwan) has always been a claimant party of Diaoyu Tai (senkaku island) like PRC does since Japan lost WWII? The Cairo Declaration issued by China, the United States and the United Kingdom on December 1, 1943 stated that it was the purpose of the three countries that all the territories Japan had stolen from China, such as Diaoyu island(senkaku island), Northeast China, Taiwan and the Penghu Islands, should be restored to China. As a defeated country of WWII, Japan does NOT have an ounce of legitimacy to claim any territory against China, period.
@Torcasolta Chinas territory claim in SCS is a direct counteroffensive against the current de facto imperialist Us of A's continuous militarization of other claimant states in SCS. U honestly believe China is gonna sit and watch US armed stooges i.e phillipine occupying all the strategic islands at the doorstep of southern coast of China and threatening China's maritime safety? Back in 2012, Phillipines reckless arrest of Chinese fishermen in the area just gave China a perfect excuse to completely change the game in SCS, i guess u can only blame the Filipinos for being so strategically STUP1D lol
NO WAR PLEASE ✊🏿
America is behind every tension knots globally, ask biden to step back from global affairs
Why?
@@brunoheggli2888ridiculous question
Sadly Lai is pushing for war
Why use the BLM fist?
HE WANT TO BE THE NEXT ZENLENSKY
Taiwan is NOT Ukraine.
The USA will commit troops to Taiwan. They will not commit troops to Ukraine. Big difference.
Tsailensky leaves，Lailensky comes
@@johnyan836 No, but the interests Russia has in Ukraine are the same that China has in Taiwan. There are economic and strategic interests. A neutral Ukraine or a vassal is a strategic interest for Russia, that's why there's a war. It was a bulwark against NATO with its own economic reserves. Taiwan is purely a strategic interest. If Taiwan secedes from China, it will become an unsinkable aircraft carrier for the United States. China cannot under any circumstance allow that to happen. Very rarely do Chinese government mouthpieces use aggressive or incendiary language. Mr. Gao's threat isn't a bluff, China is deadly serious about reunification, this is why he asked what interest does the US have in sending its men and women to die, because China will fire on us also. That escalation could lead to WWIII and we know how that ends.
@@Heeroyui752 For 75 years, PR China has never ruled Taiwan for a single day, single hour, single minute. Taiwan is the core interest of the US and Taiwan was liberated from the hands of Japan. China did not fire a single shot in WWII Pacific War Zone.
People should not forget that neither Japan nor Taiwan are sovereign states.
Including South Korea, they can call themselves sovereign countries, but infact they are just military colonies of the US. Have been since the end of the second world war.
Pathetic CCP boot licking troll
Japan pays US to keep their military bases in Okinawa
yeah... Japan is a part of China.
@@fredericksiong8240are you gonna cry about it
Somehow the conversation switched to China vs Japan.
We can't allow dictatorships to simply take whatever they want the CCP have no claim to the island and never will.
I feel that too😒
because the US wants to use Japan the way it is using Ukraine
It clearly shows who is creating problems in Taiwan from behind 🙄 Uncle Sam
To the Japanese expert: Taiwan is far away from Japan, Okinawa is never part of Japan , please return to Ryukyu as an independent country . Cairo declaration to end World War II limit Japan only have 4 local islands without Okinawa.
Okinawa doesn't want to separate from Japan, whereas Taiwan does want to be separate. I thought we believed what the people want.
@@ausername8699 Okinawa's real name is Ryuku. They are occupied by the US military and have no choice. They voted to stop US bases. Didn't help. Democracy is fake.
@@ausername8699
@@ausername8699 Reality doesn't care what you think
@@kangbule Cope harder.
Goodness me, as a Chinese by blood, I am bewildered to see this heated argument between a representative from Taiwan, a representative from Beijing, and a scholar if he isn't a politician from Tokyo. From a living soul in Chinese culture and values, I dislike any belligerent behavior. I don't like intimidating language used in these arguments either. However, the confrontation today between the government in the Mainland and across the strait is so hot that any misdemeanor of either party will trigger a war (as described "The Point of No Return").
Please don't take his word lightly - he speaks on the internet media under the blessing of Beijing, therefore, his words are those of the Zhongnanhai, authoritative, and certainly carrying a substantial amount of credibility in them. So when he said President Lai will get what he want (implying he deserved it) with his provocative statements on his inauguration, he should expect the consequences, militarily, not economically or politically, because to the ruling party of China, Mr.Lai has already crossed the "Redline" , hence the military drills are considered "military punishment maneuvers".
Whether or not such hostile actions will bear fruit either further stimulating the DDP in Taiwan to embark another round of anti China movement such as rallying people on the streets in support of independence that directly inflicts military actions from the Mainland, or Taiwan to standup directly to these so called punishments by countering the drills - very dangerous as I can see now, never like before - the tone today is explosive!!!
Sorry to comment on your Japanese guest speaker. You invited the wrong person to represent Japan in this debate. He has no place in this argument. Japan's national interests with Taiwan and China is some politics of different generations of their politicians. No point to go back to any specific documents. Either you are with Taiwan or you are against China in this conflict. Japan is quietly preparing for war but not openly saying they will participate. So by asking your Japanese guest those ambiguous questions did not throw any light in clearing the question you tried to get some crystal clear answers. His responses were basically irrelevant to this current situation. Japan, to me, remained to be someone watching the game and the moment to seize the spoils.
Somebody getting load of money
Well said❤
The more you talk, the more you will be guilty.
If china respect japan and philippines, for sure taiwan and china could settle their internal issues.
China bullying philippines was their greatest mistakes, philippines is weak alone but has stronger Back-up.
In conclusion, war to philippines is like going to war against the world.
well said! i just wondered why nobody mentioned The Republic of China......
No sign of any military build up across the Taiwan Strait. There can NOT be a war, not at this moment.
This young guy will end up in Chinese prison, same as Joshua Wong.
You must be so scared of PRC
@@rm2s Joshua Wong was brave and wasn’t scared…now look at him…lol
@@user-zd1wz7mn5s Haha Joshua Wong was an kid brain washed by the USA and he paid for it, he will finish in jail forever.
@@rm2s I actually love China.
they look alike in every way
The two guys on the left and right talk as if the Potsdam Proclamation and Cairo Declaration doesn't exist. Taiwan has never been a country, never has never will be, just because you act like one doesn't mean you are. Taiwan a democracy? It had the longest period of martial law in world history. 228 makes Tiananmen look like a peaceful protest.
They are a democracy now, not then. History recognizes timelines, why can't you?
Democracy is just a government running method, it doesn’t change the fundamental constitution. Democracy vs independent, there is no connection.
Cairo Declaration in 1943 did not hand Taiwan's sovereignty to China, as claimed by the Chinese, since it is nothing more than a press release outlining post-war intentions. It's not an international treaty for one simple reason, the war hasn't ended yet (not until 1945) so signing legally binding treaty on land not yet acquired would be preposterous (same goes for Potsdam Declaration). ROC in Taiwan is obviously legal regardless of international or diplomatic recognition, same as PRC before it was recognized by UN and the international community between 1949-1971. Martial law in Taiwan was imposed by the pro-China KMT party. Same goes for 228 massacre. The atrocities / genocides are all committed by Chinese against native Taiwanese.
I would like to point out the fact that the very same Chinese Communist Party that vows to take down Taiwanese independence supporters historically supported Taiwan independence for over 50 years from 1930-1980s. They trained pro-independence activists and donated money both in Taiwan and abroad to promote Taiwan independence movement against their old rival KMT who used to rule China but was later exiled to Taiwan. Treacherous behavior by the Chinese.
de facto it is a seperate country. And one of the best countries in the world. I'm guessing that you are the same kind of person who defends palestinian cause lol. some egreements and declarations do not change the fact that this country has been ruled seperately and has a distinct characteristics to china.
Be prepared for One Country One System!! This is most powerful message of the discussion!
China has right to safeguard his interests.
Victor Gao owned this panel discussion, Japan has no right to intervene, Taiwan has been part of China for as long as we could remember
I am a Taiwanese but I have never paid a penny of tax to PRC. I have not seen any policeman sent by China in Taiwan. Why is Taiwan a part of China? Based on which treaty?
China was a part of Mongolian empire as long as we can remember
@@johnyan836 在領土上，中國=中華民國=中華人民共和國≠台灣，台灣是這片領土的一部分，衝突在於政權的爭奪，還有一部分是把中華民國=台灣的片面扭曲，縮小了中國範圍，即分裂兩岸，支持台獨。
@@user-dn7dx4bi9x中国=中华民国 中华民国包括台湾。
Gao behaved like an upset prepubescent in the way he repeatedly tried to deflect and redirect questions.
" Be Prepared ".....❣️
Taiwan (ROC)'so constitution says the two sides of the straits are one country
According to American theory, both Japan and Taiwan are totally the “in menu” colonies, instead of “on table”sovereign countries. How could they argue here with China, a sovereign “on table” country?!
Japan: We refuse the unconditional surrender of 1945 now! So what!
Taiwan: I forgot that I am Chinese (Republic of China) and wanna be rather Japanese!
A everyone here a Chinese bot?
@@benjaminzipser6021 Why won't the United States let Texas become independent? This is your double standard
Mr. Gao is so smart and wise, full respect to him, always!
His level is way higher than any kid on this talk. He was the interpreter for Deng Xiaoping, the one who told British to get off from Hongkong.
@@SpyFromMarsZeus the "kid" either will turn/is already 35 this year in 2024. it would behoove you and further add to more productive discourse to look at factual content being discussed rather than using optics/personal bias
@@michaelchang2964 kids are the ones who aren’t allowed onto the adults’ table. And Japan, is certainly an example of it.
Fifty cents to you comrade
The world should know that the official name of Taiwan is still Republic of China, and the government there actually prepared and tried to take the mainland back from 1949 till the end of last century. The independence movement started only after the opposition party took the power about 20 years ago.
thank you
@@Amidat The Taiwanese government modified history textbooks to bra1n wash young generations and that is one of the main reasons they have won 3 elections in a row🤬 (but still with only 40% support)
Excellent choice of the panelists. Very exciting discussion with totally different perspectives.
Japan is not even a sovereign country. Why is this guy here?
speak for the US?
Great point. They should worry about rediscovering their own sovereignty
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Great interview. SPICY!
Japan has no say in Taiwan
neither does china
@@bluntsh00ter according to the UN and most countries in the world - Taiwan is part of China.
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@@bluntsh00ter Dude, Taiwan is part of China
So many questions should be asked..
1- will US risk to loss more than half of their power in a war with China over Taiwan?
2- will China invade Taiwan directly if announce their independence?
3 if the war begins will US strike inside China?
4- will China threaten to use their nuclear weapons if anyone intervenes in the war as Russia did?
5-if US strike inside China, will China react to strike inside US?
6- will China allies will intervene as US allies?
Huge numbers of casualties.. the wqr will be huge more than WWII, WWII will be a joke compared to this war, the world will risk all what humans reach in technology and science..
These are all good questions. It is a serious question, it could result in a full world war. No one would use nuclear weapons because they understand we would all die, but yes I think it could result in a process that escalates to a conflict where China is being attacked inside it’s territory to destroy its rockets and neutralize its capacity to attack Taiwan.
These are questions you could answer yourself they ain't that hard
@@blvck.8197 no one could answer them, US nor China.. they just have to make hard decisions in the coming years..
1. don't know
2. Yes
3. No
4. No
5. Yes
6. No, China has no allies
1 N
2 Y
3 N
4 N
5 Y
6 top secret...
Japan has not apologised and admitted its war crime. Shame on ypu Japan
Japanese, the dwarf pirates
Shame on china
If japan surrendered to the Kuomintang. Where is the provision that the Kuomintang asked japan to interfere for them ? Japan as a colony of the US, has no moral ground given its atrocities on innocent people of Asia in yhe past.
是日本向美國投降，你回去重讀歷史別出來到處亂說丟人現臉！
臺灣也是美國殖民地，美國把臺灣交給國民黨代為暫時管理
Watching 2 of your guests, I am reminded of the old saying…”if you can’t make the point,…make a face”
China taking over Taiwan is innevitable , China been dumping US dollars and stocking gold to avoid sanctions and if you can't see this then you are already lost😂
Since when do grown men and teens share the same level of knowledge? Bring the US and Russia to the table and then we talk.
This was a good Inside Story. Thanks AJ!
firstly, why is the japanese being busybody? 2nd, they cant find an older taiwanese who actually went through the history?
You know older ones with spew the fact out, old people are straight-forward so...
Very interesting part at the last part, if taiwanese don't want one country, two system then eventually they will get one country , one system. 😅
Let’s F around and find out.
F stands for Fart. 🤪🤪🤪
Ha... ok..... Booooooom. Nice knowing you.😂👍
China and Taiwan is a single country forever only a fool can deny that.
China won't do a thing...!! All bark and no bite!😂
@@newphaze-gz2kfwoof🇨🇳📈
Sounds rather like a description of the US, given recent European and Mid-Eastern data.
Free Hong Kong Tibet
That was history, its not existing now
I think Taiwanese should and must recognise there is no country name " Taiwan" in united nation.
These discussions are unfortunately focused on political arguments rather than the reality on the ground. The facts are
1. Most Taiwanees don't want to war nor unification with the mainland China. They prefer the status quo.
2. Legally speaking, Taiwan and the mainland China are still in civil war status since the national government lost a civil war and fled to Taiwan in 1949.
3. China's red line is that if Taiwan declares independence then millitary actions will be taken. However China still wants so called peaceful reunification and sees millitary takeover as a last option. Chinese president Xi recently said that as long as both sides can agree that they belong to the same Chinese race, everything is negotiable.
4. Present Lai's auguration speech is provocative and pushes for independence in the eyes of the mainland Chinese government.
5. The Chinese government was shocked by president Lai's speech and started millitary drill to intimidate the Taiwan government. Social media platforms in China are boilling and put a lot of pressues on the government to take action.
I think that the provocation from the Taiwan president is unwise and dangerous. The best solution is to keep the status quo and keep political statements vague which both sides can tolerate. It does not benefit either side to start a war, especially they belongs to the same race.
hey there!so i assure u basically suggesting tw should keep silence and maybe submit to china at least in rhetoric-wise?i'm afraid u just can't deem china a quite logical and rational player and understand it too simple---ask yourself,do u genuinely believe beijing could simplely allow status quo if president lai cringe and flattering beijing in the inauguration speech (instead of just insisting and reiterating tw's consistent position as he has done)?one fact:china will retake tw no matter what,so cringe and cringe and cringe just won't work.glad to hear from u
最后一句话你跟台湾人说,他会回你:谁跟你是同一个民族啊
but the US and others have to keep their word which is no official contact with Taiwan government... only cultural and economic
@@miguelmaylee You mean that your option is to evoke a war? The fact is that even Taiwan’s constitution claims that it governs the whole China, not Taiwan only. Although China wants to takeover Taiwan eventually (no leader can give up Taiwan without being engulfed by Chinese people), it claims that is would do it peacefully if possible. I believe this is genuine as the military option is too expensive and dangerous. Taiwan people understand that. In the last Chinese military drill encircling Taiwan, a lot of Taiwanese took Tourist boats to site-seeing the Chinese fleets for fun. Can you believe after the drill starts this time, the headline of Taiwan newspapers is still some news of a Japanese pop star?
My point is that if there is a possibility of peace, all sites should make efforts to avoid war. No one knows what will happen in the future. After the Taiwan new president Lai won the election, Chinese president Xi’s position has been mild and said as long as both sides agree that they belong to the same race, everything is negotiable. There is no sign of an imminent invasion. Before the Taiwan new president inauguration speech, all signs, including a leaked draft, showed that it would be a mild speech that both sides can accept. But the actual speech said Taiwan and China are two separate countries that are not affiliated with each other. This is very near to declare independence, which is the red line for the mainland China. China has a law that requires the government to start a war if that happens. I think the new Taiwan’s president’s action is neither wise nor responsible. It also put Taiwan in immediate dangers unnecessarily.
@@xiaofengli4426 firstly,i'm not suggesting to evoke a war,a war is unwanted.however,i'm afraid it would happen,for twese trying to defend their lifestyle and xi keeping being more and more aggressive,so it's kinda irreconcilable unfortunately.
i'm pro-status quo,more accurately i believe we should let tw people choose their own lifestyle,yes indeed tw need caution and wisdom to try not trigger xi and ccp(unfortunately),however i don't think it's a appropreate manner to just keep blaming tw and always tell them to cringe on everything,blaming the bold bully xi and ccp!!!
Taiwan is NOT a country, the UN doesn’t recognise Taiwan as a country nor Japan nor the US, japan and the US do not have embassy in Taiwan but they do in Beijing, this fact tells loudly that Japan and the US officially recognised Taiwan as part of China, period.
China’s military action in Taiwan is not an “invasion” because Taiwan is the land part of China.
The speaker “professor” from Taipei is trying to change the fact and his argument is so generic and lame.
“Be prepared” Victor Gao said, that’s not a bluff.
So is Xi Jinping a US puppet since his daughter studied at Harvard?
China's economy would be devastated, and it's military is under major corruptions scandals which will take years to recover, and at best, china might win Taiwanese territory but lost the entire economy of the county and go into the biggest recession in this century... don't think it'll happen anytime soon
Then why does China allow US servicemen to be stationed in Taiwan if it is PRC territory? And why do they tell Taiwan not to buy missiles from the US, but they do anyway and the PRC do nothing about it. It's a country in every way that matters.
Your statement is completely wrong as CCP never ruled and controled Taiwan regardless UN recognizes Taiwan as a country or not. Invasion is a invasion.
@@hung-yupan1599 it’s not about who rules Taiwan, it’s about the ownership of the LAND of Taiwan, the UN and other 180 countries around the world recognised that the land of Taiwan belongs to PRC, if some people don’t agree they are free to leave the land forever and should not come back.
The Japanese twisted the facts. There will be no invasion. It’s unification.
Give Mr. Gao a big Thumbs up
I love Victor Gao, his tongue is so razor sharp!!!
To: Mr. Gao Taiwan has been preparing for more than 70 years ,you can invade Taiwan any time.
Please dont start another war on earth.we are tired of the bloodshed.humans are so weird
God bless you.
There has never been a time in human history that there has not been a war on planet earth. Let that sink in. It’s the currency of mankind.
It's not another war, it's just that Taiwan has taken China's territory which was surrendered by Japan after WW2. It's not like China claims new lands, it is just enforcing it's exciting borders
@@Wargasm54its actually not. Let that sink in.
@@roro4787the people of the Himalayas would like a word. China has colonized parts of Bhutan recently and constantly clashes with India. Y’all literally invaded and subjugated the Tibetans.
Lai's toxic rhetoric is to accelerate the empty out of Taiwan's wealth
這幾天全球AI龍頭公司的9位CEO都來到臺灣，要在我們臺灣加碼投資設廠，請問臺灣怎麼財富空出啊？
可笑的對岸共產黨制理的中共國人民1小時薪水還在3塊、4塊、5塊，外資紛紛撤資、撤出中共國，是對岸共產黨制理的中共國財富空出壓榨人民百姓😂🤣
It's an interesting discussion
I like the dancing going on with the other two after Victor Gaos speech around 12:45. Hilarious 😂
高先生一人对两人，有点吃亏啊。台湾小伙还是年轻啊，不打身上是不知道疼的，我感觉越来越有开战的风险了现在，想抱老美和日本的大腿，我们越来越不屑了。
All I see is Taiwanese threatening to annex Chinese land.
Because you are blind being told what is happening. Thus allowing what somebody tells you to form your opinion
Well if madness runs in your family it is not the fault of the overwhelming number of people who can tell fact from fiction. You are believing a dream that is actually going to end up as a nightmare if sensible people do not stand up for peace and truth.
@@ScienceSpams One China policy kept the peace... And the truth is most of the world says Taiwan is Chinese territory
理论上现在只是处于内战休战的状态。
清朝都沒有完整的完全統治過整個臺灣了，中共國建國到現在也沒有統治過臺灣！
二戰結束聯合國的美國方，只是把臺灣和彭湖給國民黨代為管理，中華民國只擁有金門和馬祖統治權和領土！
The Taiwanese voted freely for their freedom and democracy and we must respect the free vote of the people.
First thanks great information news!!!
Japan wants to try to see if the nuclear bombs of another superpower are the same as those of the United States.
victor guy is making the other 2 panelists mad war has started here
that was a threat when he said “get ready”. well, then get ready…
shame on the Japanese
, who still worship WWII war criminals as national heroes.
WWII is over.
Shame on totalitarian facist states such as russian and the PRC!
You mean Chinese, right?
@@curly5129 CCP!
Chilling.
Be prepared...
it's always a good thing to be prepared!
@@mwtrolleNo amount of preparation will matter.
The problem here is the greed and pride of china! Let Taiwan live in peace. Taiwan is been a self governing country for almost century and this is how we defined a country with its own government and policy.
China must learn to move on and recognize peace.
This was a Great Informative Debate !
Lapdogs for US
Nope, an aquarium frog. Lapdog are Korea and Japan. The one in the yard is Philippines.
And poor china is so scared it cant do anything.
@@Ningbu.🇨🇳📈🤫
@@Ningbu.They have the best electric cars in the world and still affordable. Cry more
@@stevenwilliams3015 ye plastic cars same like payper building :( sadlly
Victor Gao”s argument is logical, and importantly Japan is irrelevant in this issue.
PRC(mainland of China+HK+Macau)+ROC(Taiwan)=China
"Taiwan is part of China." Even if it were, it would be part of the Republic of China, not the People's Republic of China. The People's Republic of China has never ruled Taiwan. Taiwan belongs to the Republic of China. The People's Republic of China and the Republic of China are two separate independent countries. Mao Zedong changed the country's name to the People's Republic of China and abandoned the Republic of China. This act by the Chinese Communist Party is factually a declaration of independence, China declared independence from Taiwan in 1949.
It would be like if the USA after declaring independence from the UK, the USA claims the UK is part of the USA. "Don't you dare declare independence UK!" said the USA.
I don’t know if these analysts understood Chinese, but lai speech and choice of words he used for anyone understands Chinese means tw is an independent country. If Okinawa declares the same words, what would Japan say?
Anw, this is a very worrisome trajectory, it’s highly likely China will be using force.
I believe that Mr Gao's points are consistent with history. So, he is absolutely 💯 right. So sad. I just hope that there will be no Ukraine in Asia.
another perfect Zelensky is about to appear in east Asia, lol.
The United States finally played the last trump card
There's a sucker born every minute. Mr. Gao is specifically paid to make you think he is telling the truth. He is a communist propagandist.
If I remember correctly, the sovereignty of Ryukyu seems to have not been determined yet.
Thanks for the update Aljazeera platinum love band let's go!
US foreign Policy is fatal...sad to see these brother's arguing about land. You cannot even differentiate them.
Taiwan just watch Ukraine 😅 cause there's no allies helping them. China build your strength and be ready you'll unify Taiwan soon or later.
Ukraine was threatened and attacked by a militarily larger, morally bankrupt and tyrannic regime at a time where it was politically vulnerable. Not exactly a shining example for china to follow in Russia's steps.
@@bluntsh00ter is it ??
The common excuse, nothing was happening in the dombass region at that time cause you were blind and deaf 🃏 🤡.
@@bluntsh00terYes, Russia sucks, if Russia invade Ukraine, with the help of NATO, Ukraine will occupy Moscow in 3 month. Then Putin has to face uprising all arcoss Russia. The war will over in May 2022😂😂👉 Come on bro, GDP of Russia is only 1/10 the size of China, even then NATO can't defeat Russia.
From the perspective of understanding historical accuracy, the panelists from Taiwan and Japan are not comparable to the one from China. They are significantly below the Chinese panelist.
That was interesting 😊 thank you Al Jazeera 👏🏾