(1668) Squire CP50 Combination Lock
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- čas přidán 10. 03. 2020
- In video 1668 we'll take a look at the Squire CP50 combination padlock and identify it's strengths and vulnerabilities. Then I'll show you how I quickly opened and decoded it.
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Kinda funny how the packaging says it’s just a low to medium security lock and yet it’s still better than 80% of combination locks available.
This is among the best combo padlock I've seen, actually.
Probably because it's not very secure against destructive attacks.
Because Squire is honest about their locks' security ratings.
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Yeah, Master would advertise this as 10/10. best lock ever literally Fort Knox.
This is a good move by Squire.
Very modest
Nice to see that Squire is realistic in their statement that it's just a medium security lock, whereas every other company that markets garbage locks as "maximum security" in spite of having three ways to decode them and two ways to bypass them and saying things like "ten out of ten security!" Right on the packaging. Nice change of pace.
for the price, i'd say that's a pretty decent lock. shielded gates and a disconnected shackle is not bad at all
Also the required pressure makes the attack by BB a non-trivial one in the end.
But A LOT of reviews on Amazon say that the big button on the bottom stops working after not much more than a month. Check it out. I will find out because I bought one, but I'm already feeling regret.
Looks like one of the best combo locks I've seen on this channel so far.
I watch the hell outta your videos, Bill. During this one, it occurred to me that 99% of people walking around don't know how to pick. Those of us that are left, aren't walking around with picks, mostly.
Anyway, I love what you do, and I thank you for it.
Good year - I graduated from USAFA that year. Use a C clamp to hold the button with lots of pressure.
I can only assume squire have been working hard to fix the weaknesses (wheel bounce and the button press process).
I have not found a single approach for my cp60... the wheels bounce but totally random and unrelated to the combination, and the button depress and look for binders, impossible; when the button is depressed hard, all wheels bind.
I have opened plenty cp40 and cp50, no trouble, frighteningly quickly, actually - all with the wheel bounce approach. But the cp60 I received today is not at all susceptible. I am extremely pleased whilst also being annoyed, as the point of buying the lock was for blindfolded, or in the dark, or behind the back opening practice.
All I can say is well done squire!!!
I have one of these (actually I think it's the smaller brother, CP40), and found a much easier way of decoding it that doesn't involve "tensioning" with the button. Just press down on each code wheel, and it will depress much more when it's on the gate for the correct number for that wheel. Maybe it works with the CP50 as well. I doubt they are very different mechanically.
Thanks :)
I can confirm that it works on the CP50 (mine just arrived in the post). Wow, what a weakness this is! How on earth did Bill miss this major flaw? I just set mine to a random number, scrambled it, and got the code in about 30 seconds! I wonder if Squire know about this? This is worse than Master Lock!
This does work, I can confirm too! I was trying the method in the video for very long until I stumbled across this comment
Can you explain that again for me please, I dont quite understand how to do it
Same here.Tapping the number on the wheel with my thumb nail edge and watching for bounce quickly revealed the correct code. Thanks Harrison.
Great job for a combination lock. Nice video as always. Everyone have a wonderful day
Given that this is the company that makes the biggest and strongest padlock known to man (the Squire SS100CS) its not surprising that they can do well even on a cheaper combination padlock.
If I need a combo lock just for convenience purposes, I'll get this one. Considering master locks can be decoded in seconds, and the sesame and master 175 can be bumped open with just about anything solid
Not bad for a little combination lock, thanks Bill!
Yep, i pushed the button in hard and turn the dial with the most resistance and wait for an easing in both the button and the dial. I moved on to the next dial. Great feeling when that button goes in all the way!
Persevere with it and remember the move into the gate is subtle!
Just thought i'd add onto this, i found this method of getting into the lock rather tedious. Found a much better way.
If you make sure all the wheels are on numbers. Then push down on the button and keep pushing down.
Press downward on one of the wheels you will either feel it push down a bit, or not at all. Or just a little bit.
If you find the number that it pushes down the most on when tension is on the barrel then thats your gate!
Just keep typing each number until you find the right one, you'll know when you feel it.
I spent literally hours trying this way with an rather beaten up CP50 and it was just horrible feeling for this 'play' and i just couldn't get it figured.
If your struggling try the push down method on the wheel (:
Hey man, i had one of these for my but forgot the code over lockdown, can you elaborate please ?
@@chrisblack5500 working from left to right. Push downwards on one of the dials, see how far down it pushes. Change the value to the next number. Push again. Do this untill you find the number that pushes down the furthest on that wheel, then go onto the next wheel.
Love the vids, been mulling over sending a lock or two your way, that is I can find my “naughty” locks
Slight tip, don’t over tighten the screw on top after changing the combi number! It makes it stiff to open. You also don’t need to take the screw out completely, just loosen it to change the combi.
Thanks for another great video!
Good - one of the better low price combilocks
thanks
More secure then a master lock
Lol, came to say something similar. Masters are laughable.
A paper cutout of a lock is more secure than a "Master" lock.
A stick through the ring of a latch is more secure than a master lock...
Fabulous video my friend 😎
I have this lock, and was going along with you, it work well
As always a most impressive video. I can never thank you enough for all the knowlege I've received from you over the past couple of years. I definetely consider you a mentor to me and am most grateful.
I've cracked 2 if these but have a third that's just giving me such a hard time. Currently in a hotel room trying to crack it before dinner.
Bill, you can use a large ball bearing on the button to not only amplify the feedback from the gates, but it also stops your finger from hurting so much.
Nice tip
Or a socket
*VERY EASY METHOD* I was having some serious trouble with this lock, but I found a pretty decent method, so here it is:
note: some of these steps are redundant, but make it clearer how to do this.
1. *set the code to* 5-5-5-5
2. *rotate each dial right half a turn - so that the grooves are centered.* (the direction of the E on the SQUIRE text)
3. *choose a dial* (I find dial 2 to be by far the easiest)
4. *keep rotating that dial clockwise 1 turn* (so that it remains with the groove centered)
5. *after each rotation check to see how loose the dial is by tapping on it* (it should also be quite raised, get a good side view)
6. *set it to the dial to the loosest groove*
7. *repeat from step 3 for the remaining dials* (note: I find dial 4 to be generally quite tricky, so I do 2 -> 1 -> 3 -> trial and error)
8. *turn all dials left half a turn - so that numbers are showing* (the direction of the S on the SQUIRE text)
9. *boop*
Not a bad combo lock, better than some I have seen
Thanks for looking at it! Its probably as good as its gonna get for a combo lock. Unfortunately theres no way to use a key lock due to external requirements, but I had to get rid of the Master 175.
Is this the same company that produced the heavy Squire lock that was tested by you and LPL by firing artillery ?
I stock these locks as they are better than other combination locks, however, I would recommend using a 50mm lock over the 40mm one where possible because the dials on the smaller one are very difficult to use. Personally think these are lower quality than squire’s usual, the plastic housing is a little bit vague, but that’s me being picky!
Dang you a master of lock picking. Now if you can teach me how to pick my wife’s fridge of a heart it would be mice
These are very quick to decode, every one I have "Acquired" has only taken me about one minute.
Damn, did Squire send you their customer list? I've yet to see one in the field let alone have a chance to "acquire" many. 😉
@@MrV1NC3N7V3G4 They are pretty common in the UK and most customers of theirs just stop using them because they just happen to disappear overnight for some mysterious reason.
@@Kit_Bear Ah... UK. That makes sense now.
Good morning!
Hey!!! Good morning!!
That takes a lot of work to pick, risking bystander attention. That makes it better than most on the market.
I've noticed when i was playing about with the lock.
That the wheel bounces just a little bit more than other wheels when correct number is in the right place
Just a point, from the box, my one of this lock didn't need the screw touched at all to change the combination
I've never had a combo lock sequence bind out of order. It's always been L-R or R-L. Never a binder between. Wouldn't make sense if there was, unless the machining was truly that horrible.
Do you think the Abus e60 euro core would be a better core than the one that came in my Kasp 19070x lock?
hmmm looking at this, I came across this one HSQKEYSAFE its supposed to be their higher security combination lock in a keysafe.. could you have a look?
Their weakness is the button becoming stuck, or dropping out altogether, although to their credit, they still work, bless’em.
That can be used to your advantage: You then also need a small screwdriver to act as a key - but it is the main weakness of the newer style of these. Been using them for years out in all weathers and they're very reliable.
I've seen these online and always wondered if they were any good, cheers for the video.🍺👍😎
Does it make it easier to detect the gates if you remove that screw? (maybe gives more play)
Try a WIND Combination Padlock sometime.
WTG Bill keep picking’m
So, shield that tensioning button and decoding will take a lot more time?
Just found one of these and by some chance the code was 1978 also 🤯
Can you review the Sargent and Greenleaf 8077 series locks please?
I just bought one but now I see that A LOT of reviews on Amazon say that in short time (most less than a month) the button on the bottom stops working. That's very said. And also a component you've got to consider.
I've found squire locks do fall apart very quickly if they're used often, particularly on tool sheds or workshops etc.
I "found" this lock with a nice thick chain, but so far not been able to solve it. More practice needed.
Trying to be positive here - with shackle and shielded wheels it's not that bad. Then there is the time consuming method of decoding. All in all not great but not bad either. Maybe Master Lock should be watching and jot a few notes down.
Thanks Bill
i've got one of these that just won't open. when i try the method in this video it feels like it should open at 0000. i think either it's defective somehow or i'm doing it wrong.
Im planning to buy the CP60 w/ shackle guard. For $30 I think it's a great value.
The bigger brother isn't too bad either, 5 numbers to choose from. Nice 10mm shackle.
, I use a piece cloth tape.. MacGyver tape as it's known with a dried pee in the middle put that against the button and push with your palm it's a lot easier
1:08 "Combi 750" :))
6:55 C-E-50 (:
What is that tool you are using, and who do you work for
Can you do the Squire Warrior-55?
Why are there no (deeper) false gates? I have and sell the 9 rated armored cable bike combination lock. It's already hard to open if you know the number. All 5 digits have to be set absolute precise. There is no change mechanism. The ring with the numbers has just to be turned with a special wrench while the lock is open. An do the latter precise if you want to be able to open it ever again.
I would love to see one of them tested.
I don't know, that was a pretty good lock. Had to watch the video 3 times to actually understand what Bill was saying to figure out the lock.
LockPickingCuber has a newer vid with a killer flaw. Makes these the fastest combo decodes I've seen, shame cause Squire was starting to impress me but the error is kind of hard to forgive
Hi can you please help I’m desperate to pick this same lock but unfortunately I have arthritis in my thumbs now I can usually find a different way of doing it but this one has me beat what I want to know is would it be possible to defeat with a notched bypass knife? Don’t have one but if you think it’s doable I would get one this lock has driven me nuts please any thing to help would be great 👍
I would argue this is out of most people's skill set. Like it doesnt fall under a common combination lock attack, the same way other locks can be bullied open. Is this a better lock for securing your bag from simple gym theft, probably more than enough.
We use these at work on climable height gates with a medium quality chain, the purpose being to deter gates being left open and unn authorised vehicles.
They are a realistic deterent that works in a situation with multiple people needing acess.
True they can be easily defeated but do can more expensive locks but for the price point they are fine and long term they do stand up to regular use and weather.
So, good enough for a gym locker.
Maybe Amazon is trying to tell you something by leaving locks on your door step? Thats some mind game.
Unfortunately they are weaker than shown here. If you tilt the lock so you can see the numbers in edge on, then you can rotate the numbers until you see the dial raise very slightly in relation to the others. Do it on all 4 and you are in.
Craftsman!!
Thank you Bill for the hours of entertainment and skill I have learnt from you.
Best wishes on your retirement.
God Bless you and your family.
Codebreaker! 😥
Would shimming work?
can you use a modified quick clamp on the button instead of your finger.
Sure, why not?
I bought this lock a month ago. Pressing the release button locks the dials, making this approach impossible.
Use less pressure on the button. There's another way too, the gates feel different, push the button and wiggle the wheels back and forth if a wheel is in the right position it will have more play in it. Once you feel the difference it should be easy to decode within five minutes.
An engineers finger clamp works well to keep the tension on💪😛♥️🤣
hi, I'm not English and I don't really understand English, but can someone explain to me how I can lock this lock without knowing the pin code? thanks in advance
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Sounds like it's not too bad for the$
I tried everything, even going to your site, and I can't pick your email, or a way to send you a pic. here in Vn, we have siagonbill.
Now imagine this would have some kind of click button mechanism that makes sure you cannot tension the lock for a long time and this would be super hard to pick.
Where the research should go is a cut proof lock all of these cyber locks etc are amazingly clever I mean ridiculously clever but you just get an angle grinder and cut them off
Easy to pick you know the code
my arthritis would kill me doing that.
bill I am BadxMike on facebook. I would love to have you join me in streaming my lockpicking. Been picking for about a 3 weeks now. It would be great to have you around for one. let me know. i did add you on facebook.
Decent lock for 20 bucks.
Harder to get into the packaging
that seems like a lot of work to reset the code
Irrelevant. How often do you plan on setting the code?
But you know the code. How’s that helpful
Not worth a wank one hit with a hammer and its open only has 2/3 studs / rivits holding it together under the outer plastic case
not a true pick when u already know the combo
No work
There is an easier way!! When the number is in the right gate it protrudes out noticeably further and also kind of bounces. Takes no more than 1 minute with 0 tools, 0 tension
Another victim of 'PublicSchoolBill.' RIP Squire CP50.
Made in China not UK made
Need to take the union Jack off the packet
These videos should be banned. People agreed to pay for the security functionality (however basic or advanced) that this provides. If you want to share *general* vulnerability information fine; but step-by-step how to completely circumvent them, no. It's arguably unethical, but definitely unfair to lock owners. Share picking information among locksmith peers, and manufacturer, but not with the world.