Why the Jrue Holiday Trade Makes Perfect Sense

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  • čas přidán 20. 05. 2024
  • The Bucks just added Dame, so naturally the Boston Celtics responded by trading for Jrue Holiday, who arguably defends him better than anyone.
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  • @pierceliu9914
    @pierceliu9914 Před 7 měsíci +84

    For the trades itself definitely understand it. They are combining Smarts’s defense+Brogdon’s playmaking into Jrue, and Grant’s shooting+Williams’s rim protection into Porzingis. But at the same time if one or two of the players in that six man rotation are injured they gonna be in trouble

    • @snupedummy
      @snupedummy Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yeah but two is better than one if it was 2k with no injuries then he’ll yeah

    • @joecesh
      @joecesh Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yes! This is what I thought too. They've combined upsides of the ones they've traded

    • @bjrnthebootybandit
      @bjrnthebootybandit Před 7 měsíci +2

      Jrue is one of the most bad decision making erratic play makers like Westbrook, especially in half court.

    • @jamirbingham4101
      @jamirbingham4101 Před 7 měsíci +6

      @@bjrnthebootybanditlol you don’t know ball

    • @jamirbingham4101
      @jamirbingham4101 Před 7 měsíci

      Y’all really need to look up their roster they have nothing but wing defenders 😂😂

  • @joecesh
    @joecesh Před 7 měsíci +28

    Smart is a high risk high reward defender. He usually gambles on defense that can can cost greatly or reward remarkably. While Jrue is low risk high reward, he is very controlled with his defense. I like this for Boston, still miss Smart tho. Imagine Jrue, Smart, White on the same team 👀

    • @ry_an.
      @ry_an. Před 7 měsíci

      They’re all like 6’3-6’4 and not good enough on offense

    • @GodsProphet23
      @GodsProphet23 Před 7 měsíci

      @@ry_an. jrue is wth you taking about guy 18-23 guy ppg most his carrer dw white is decent but smart is streaky from the most!

    • @earpolution05
      @earpolution05 Před 7 měsíci

      @@GodsProphet23bros bringing up regular season stats like they matter 😂

    • @ry_an.
      @ry_an. Před 7 měsíci

      @@GodsProphet23 they’re all good regular season performers but can they be trusted to create good offense down the stretch in big games. Jrue TS% plummets in the playoffs

    • @joecesh
      @joecesh Před 7 měsíci

      @@ry_an. they didn’t have to be. The Jays will do the scoring, the guards focus perimeter defense and off ball movements. And if you base them by their heights? If you watch them, you’d know they play big for their size. They guard 1-5

  • @Preddybenn
    @Preddybenn Před 7 měsíci +7

    @hoopsvenue I love your basketball breakdowns and analysis. you really give a well in-depth and great breakdown of not only the player's strengths and weaknesses but also tendencies and fit for the team. Brilliant breakdown and keep up the good work!

    • @HoopVenue
      @HoopVenue  Před 7 měsíci +2

      That means a lot, appreciate your support!

  • @johnachebe6022
    @johnachebe6022 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Jrue goin to the Celtics could be problematic for the bucks because jrue has a history of putting dame in a straightjacket

    • @jamirbingham4101
      @jamirbingham4101 Před 7 měsíci

      Facts

    • @Chickenpesto2468
      @Chickenpesto2468 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@anthonymercado8126which is why we kept white who jimmy struggled with

    • @Th3N0t0ri0us_E
      @Th3N0t0ri0us_E Před 7 měsíci +3

      Dame was doubled that series, and don’t forget Jrue had a Prime AD switching on Dame.

  • @willjensen5595
    @willjensen5595 Před 7 měsíci +35

    If the Celtics lack depth, the Bucks really lack depth haha

    • @johntorres5153
      @johntorres5153 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Just cuz you don't know who is on the bench doesn't mean there isn't one

    • @Th3N0t0ri0us_E
      @Th3N0t0ri0us_E Před 7 měsíci +3

      How do the Bucks lack depth?

    • @RittenhousesRifle
      @RittenhousesRifle Před 7 měsíci

      @Th3N0t0ri0us_E Nobody on the Bucks bench scares anyone. The Bucks aren’t going to be able to score from the perimeter.

    • @johntorres5153
      @johntorres5153 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@RittenhousesRifle lol nobody on the celtics bench is anybody...... you ain't got to be scared to get your ass whooped so there's that😁

    • @TheBRYANAWSOME
      @TheBRYANAWSOME Před 7 měsíci

      @@johntorres5153brissett, stevens, and walsh are so underrated and fit perfectly with the celtics. you'll just have to wait for the season to start to find out 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @isaactesfaye9760
    @isaactesfaye9760 Před 7 měsíci +8

    Jrue is the best poa defender in the nba. Derrick white is the best off ball guard defender in the nba. He contests as many shots at the hoop as a lot of centers and rotations are excellent. They can both play on/off ball on offense and have connecting/spacing/scaling attributes. 2 players that aren’t fair to have together. Then porzingus rim protection and horfords switch ability and the jays are solid. This is the best defense I’ve seen in a while. Great vid!

    • @isaactesfaye9760
      @isaactesfaye9760 Před 7 měsíci +3

      On offense it all fits. White and jrue are pgs who can play off ball and white is key due to him as a connector. Jays are the jays. Porzingus is a weapon. This top 6 is possibly the best top 6 I’ve seen only thing is after the 6 they have nobody

    • @kennn30
      @kennn30 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@isaactesfaye9760Idk how are they're supposed to get depth with that lineup. That's why as glamorous it looks, usually top heavy teams don't win rings. Stars need other guys to step up.

    • @isaactesfaye9760
      @isaactesfaye9760 Před 7 měsíci

      @@kennn30 yeah this team isn’t too heavy in a top 2 or 3 way, it’s their top 6. If they find one more rotational piece they’re good because I’m playoffs you need 7

    • @kennn30
      @kennn30 Před 7 měsíci

      @@isaactesfaye9760 And we shouldn't be so trusting of Porzingis, he hasn't been past the first round in the playoffs.

    • @drechillin2154
      @drechillin2154 Před 7 měsíci

      @@kennn30what’s that’s supposed to mean the only one in starting lineup not getting passed the first round compared to everyone else who has been to the finals

  • @TellenJones
    @TellenJones Před 7 měsíci

    Good analysis. 👍

  • @jackhobbs720
    @jackhobbs720 Před 7 měsíci +10

    i love jrue

    • @E4MB
      @E4MB Před 7 měsíci

      i like the trade i like zach, like fred, i like dick - spike lee

    • @HoopVenue
      @HoopVenue  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Most likeable player in the league!

    • @johnrouguine3090
      @johnrouguine3090 Před 7 měsíci

      @@HoopVenue I’m sure

  • @tre017
    @tre017 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Jrue Holiday is an all around Marcus Smart. Great fit for Celtics.

  • @gilly2026
    @gilly2026 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I really thought about it, Malcolm is good but he was not dependable at all in Boston + they got Derrick white and now JRUE to fill that role. Losing timelord sucks but if you think about it, I think Horford was the better big in the playoffs against the elite bigs like Embiid, giannis, and bam

    • @Chickenpesto2468
      @Chickenpesto2468 Před 7 měsíci +1

      This Horford consistently plays good defense and Porzingis had a block and a half a game but they act like everyone gonna go off there. Tstum can also help a tiny bit there

  • @Mfr3ncis
    @Mfr3ncis Před 7 měsíci

    Great review and nice video overall

  • @SPLASHhoopz
    @SPLASHhoopz Před 7 měsíci +16

    Jrue is the biggest threat to the bucks right now

    • @martinalcaraz-gomez9799
      @martinalcaraz-gomez9799 Před 7 měsíci +1

      He’s not even the best player on that team chill

    • @ultraradio5
      @ultraradio5 Před 7 měsíci

      That sounds crazy 😭

    • @lanihendrix
      @lanihendrix Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@martinalcaraz-gomez9799you don’t have to be the best player to have the most impact

    • @user-ds1fd2rm4p
      @user-ds1fd2rm4p Před 7 měsíci

      Remain calm Bucks have no threat , Jrue threat and the Cletics is for 3 rd place

    • @user-ds1fd2rm4p
      @user-ds1fd2rm4p Před 7 měsíci +1

      Portland won the trade easily

  • @MikeTheNBAGuy
    @MikeTheNBAGuy Před 7 měsíci +2

    what's your pre-season prediction for the finals?

    • @HoopVenue
      @HoopVenue  Před 7 měsíci +1

      I think I'd go Milwaukee vs. Denver, but it's really tough to say.

  • @VillainArch22
    @VillainArch22 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I love how you showed every guard and forward that have been killing the Celtics for years. People overrated Marcus defensively. He didn’t “lock down” any of these cats like how Jrue does. Marcus never had a game where he could at least make the guy work on the other end either; which hurt us on both ends. This is a win.

  • @pg13pacernation30
    @pg13pacernation30 Před 7 měsíci

    Great pick up by the Boston
    Lost Snart defensive presence got it back in the guard position with Jrue can’t really complain

  • @gilbertigwegbe9481
    @gilbertigwegbe9481 Před 7 měsíci +2

    His defense style is similar to Ausar Thompson's

    • @isolx3043
      @isolx3043 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Head ahh boy you mean Ausar is similar you Jrue Holiday the 5x all defensive player.. Ausar hasn’t even proven anything

    • @gilbertigwegbe9481
      @gilbertigwegbe9481 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@isolx3043 lol. My bad, I started to notice Ausar's style of defense before Jrues'. I'm a noob

    • @isolx3043
      @isolx3043 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@gilbertigwegbe9481 it’s okay

  • @dmadgrass
    @dmadgrass Před 7 měsíci

    Usually the lowkey move pays off!

  • @JOHNNYPMUSIC
    @JOHNNYPMUSIC Před 7 měsíci +3

    Better defender in 2023, Holiday or Caurso? And why

    • @Preddybenn
      @Preddybenn Před 7 měsíci +6

      Holiday

    • @HoopVenue
      @HoopVenue  Před 7 měsíci +3

      I'd say Holiday, and it mostly comes from the fact that he can give you that production on 38-40 MPG, whereas Caruso's harder to keep on the floor for that long.

    • @Preddybenn
      @Preddybenn Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@HoopVenue I think the better question is who's a better defender between marcus smart and jrue holiday

    • @nahidk7122
      @nahidk7122 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@PreddybennHoliday, but Smarts versatility to guard taller and more physical players, makes it an incredibly close argument

  • @VillainArch22
    @VillainArch22 Před 7 měsíci

    Jrue is soooo tough on the court. This is who the Celtics DREAMED Marcus Smart would become. Ten years & that day never came. But here’s Jrue today. Guards that used to constantly kill the Celtics are slapping their face today!!!East and West coast. You name them. 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

  • @tylerriley2587
    @tylerriley2587 Před 7 měsíci +1

    No more guarding Jayson Tatum for Holiday

  • @nbapbaupdate8338
    @nbapbaupdate8338 Před 7 měsíci

    Jaylen Brown your next video Hoop Venue 😤😤😤😤😤😤

  • @adhithram
    @adhithram Před 7 měsíci +1

    Its strangely amusing that the 3 best teams in the league after these trades all have some depth concerns in Denver, Milwaukee and Boston

    • @Chickenpesto2468
      @Chickenpesto2468 Před 7 měsíci

      Suns don’t but my question for them is fit And defense.

    • @drechillin2154
      @drechillin2154 Před 7 měsíci

      Boston depth really isn’t bad Brissett, Gaberial , Hauser, and Payton are solid Neemis is better than kornet ad Walsh could potentially be better than Williams ever was on defense and offense

  • @renzoenzo7535
    @renzoenzo7535 Před 7 měsíci

    C - Horford
    F - KP
    F - JT
    G - JB
    G - Jrue
    F - Hausser
    G - White
    G - Pritchard
    Solid 8 man rotation, just like the 8 man rotation of Denver last season
    Joker, Jamal, MPJ, AG, KCP, Braun, Green, Bruce

  • @dreknows
    @dreknows Před 7 měsíci

    I agree that holiday es more burnt out in Milwaukee we sled a ton him and be did everything except by time playoffs came be burnt out. In Celtics were going see one best playoff seasons. I love my bucks but Celtics will take it again because our coach being new
    Boston has good coaching which we never had our coach is unkown ? I just want Dame win one and I'll be happy

  • @hardywoodaway9912
    @hardywoodaway9912 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Kristaps cannot post up a mice. I‘ve seen him multiple times posting up a guard where he miserable failed

    • @ImChasinBaggz
      @ImChasinBaggz Před 7 měsíci +3

      23,8,3 on 50%, 38.5% and 85% shooting splits😂 super dominant and played 65 games last yr

  • @StraightHoops-tf6su
    @StraightHoops-tf6su Před 7 měsíci

    would you say hes top 40, 30?

  • @CleanMusicLover229
    @CleanMusicLover229 Před 7 měsíci

    This won't mean anything if they're just going to chuck up 3s

  • @darrenwilliams8376
    @darrenwilliams8376 Před 7 měsíci

    I’ll tell you why him joining my Cs helped to form the 3Js exspress yah herd meh.

  • @whitewalker3292
    @whitewalker3292 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Who's guarding wembanyama

  • @krp6680
    @krp6680 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Jrue is great but i just cant get over the fact that Gabr Vincent and Jimmy Butler COOKED him in 2023 Playoffs

  • @lee9617
    @lee9617 Před 7 měsíci

    I don’t think he’s that good of a screen navigator, a lot of those were weaker screens/screen setters. A lot of these weren’t traditional high screen and rolls as well and he is just going under a lot of these screens which isn’t the sign of an elite screen navigator.

  • @johnrouguine3090
    @johnrouguine3090 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Giannis is gonna go berserk vs them again

    • @Amari_14
      @Amari_14 Před 7 měsíci +5

      That's not what happened last time lol

    • @gilzerofan16
      @gilzerofan16 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@Amari_14Celtics have perimeter defense but lost all their interior defense. So Giannis will have no trouble doing what he does

    • @johnrouguine3090
      @johnrouguine3090 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@Amari_14 uh, yea it was

    • @Amari_14
      @Amari_14 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@gilzerofan16 KP Horford Tatum and Brisset have Interior defense

    • @gilzerofan16
      @gilzerofan16 Před 7 měsíci

      @@Amari_14 that’s not enough. How old is Al horford again?

  • @johnrouguine3090
    @johnrouguine3090 Před 7 měsíci

    Rare W, pookie.

  • @McStrokeAvision
    @McStrokeAvision Před 7 měsíci

    Dame average 26 ppg against Jrue with no help kill the fake narratives. Mind you every time they have played Jrue has either had Anthony Davis or Brook and Giannis as help defenders. Dame will be fine against Jrue playing with Giannis. He’s going to get off count on that.

  • @JesonTraya-xt2tw
    @JesonTraya-xt2tw Před 7 měsíci

    it seems like you like holiday to much?bring it on your team men

  • @DKtrek21
    @DKtrek21 Před 7 měsíci

    Boston would be the best defensive team in this era. At least on the perimeter. Once the ball goes in the paint. It's very much a guaranteed score

    • @baileychamberlain1583
      @baileychamberlain1583 Před 7 měsíci +1

      How is it a guaranteed score? Their top 6 are also very good paint defenders. With there worst probably being white who’s still competent

    • @drechillin2154
      @drechillin2154 Před 7 měsíci

      @@baileychamberlain1583White is actually a great paint defender

  • @jakethesnakemiz3645
    @jakethesnakemiz3645 Před 7 měsíci +1

    first!

  • @DukePaul1297
    @DukePaul1297 Před měsícem

    Boston's playing dead against Milwaukee 🥴

  • @ifheavenwashuman
    @ifheavenwashuman Před 7 měsíci +1

    All film, no nerdy stats. 🤩

    • @brandobuckz3857
      @brandobuckz3857 Před 7 měsíci +2

      The nerdy stats reflect the same thing, a combination of both is the best way to provide an objective perspective

    • @ifheavenwashuman
      @ifheavenwashuman Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@brandobuckz3857 You may be right, but I'm more of an Eye Test guy, especially in defensive centered discussion.

    • @itsxtray
      @itsxtray Před 7 měsíci +4

      ​@ifheavenwashuman Definitely, especially on defense. But the problem with the eye test is the subjectivity. Most people don't rewatch games to see what actually happened and only watch the ball during games, so their impression of someone's defense is inaccurate.

    • @HoopVenue
      @HoopVenue  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Respect the nerdy stats!

    • @abtocool6350
      @abtocool6350 Před 7 měsíci

      @@itsxtrayeye test is the best way to look at defense in my opinion, Larry bird has a better defensive rating than Scottie pippen, so that’s one reason why I wouldn’t care too much about advance defense stats.

  • @VillainArch22
    @VillainArch22 Před 7 měsíci

    I get the respect but Marcus was NOT a great passer. Or else greatness would still be there. 😒sorry to be negative. Just was fed up with his play.

  • @forwardthinker4139
    @forwardthinker4139 Před 7 měsíci

    Jrue is overrated lol