TINY Compressors vs Tubeless Bike Tires
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
- Testing Viair's new line of bike specific compressors for setting up tubeless tires. Can tiny compressors seat tubeless beads and inflate tubeless tires quickly without making a racket? Testing bead seat capability, inflation times, and noise levels of 3 popular Viair bike compressors.
Viair TLC Compressors:
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I’ve been eyeing these same compressors for a couple years now, but never bit the bullet because I didn’t know if they’d seat a tire. This is the content I’ve been looking for! Thank you!
I sprung for a makita quiet series air compressor one day...best purchase ever.
For about $50 you can add a 1 gallon tank to any of those compressors. It would be interesting to see the results of adding it.
This. I have a big compressor, a tubeless canister, and a pump, and I usually use the pump/canister combo because of the compressor noise. I wouldn't mind using the small compressor with the canister.
Hey guys, I developed these. Adding a 1 gallon tank to them is a great way to get serviceable air and will handke any tubeless setup very quickly
Seems like a good follow up vid.
Great video as always. I’ve been looking for an alternative to a battery operated compressor I got from Amazon that doesn’t truly seat my TLRs. I would be interested to hear your long term experience with the TLC Pro. Thanks again. Ride safe.
Where is the sponsorship/business relationship disclosure? Was the product provided for free or is this a paid promotion? Love the content on this channel but it’s necessary to disclose to your viewers just to maintain transparency and trust.
Good point. I kept the compressor of my choice (pro) in exchange for a factual, experiential review. No monetary exchange and Viair didn’t see the video before it was published.
I agree 100% !!
Yep, even if it’s a gift in exchange for a review. Whether the brand got to see the video before it was published or not, FTC requires disclosure
Do you patrol every CZcams channel who works with brands? Disclosure is certainly important, but the average viewer can consume content with a discerning eye.
In this video, I managed to leave the details out by mistake, but provided them when requested.
Neat!
Cheers for this review, I didn't know such a thing existed (I've used full sized compressors and mini electric pumps but not mini compressors) I'm now very interested in the Pro version.
I find the ease with which tubeless tyres seat is mainly dictated by how close the tyre bead naturally sits to the rim, a good fitting tyre/rim combo can easily be seated with some vigorous pumping from a normal track pump. Wide rims with smaller tyres are the hardest to seat and at the other end of the scale tyre inserts might make it harder to get the tyre on the rim but they make seating the bead a no-brainer. In general I find once a tyre has been seated and ridden for a while its usually easier to re-seat because the tyre naturally wants to sit in the right place.
Also, I believe we're supposed to call them "12v Auxiliary Power Sockets" these days 😉
The hose has to hold pressure for compressors with tanks, too. I only mention this because having a nice flexible hose is a quality of life improvement over stiff hoses. Compressors do really make tubeless a lot more pleasant compared to boosters! I use a "Metabo" compressor with a 1 gallon tank, which is advertised as 59 dB (and it's probably within the ballpark of that).
Of those 3, the Pro is the only one I'd consider buying. The others are just too much hassle.
The Pro is impressive, but it is not worth $450 versus the manual booster pump for the average home tubeless mechanic.
I have the Schwalbe Booster and it has never failed me. A little more work than a powered compressor but work is good right.
Tough to say given that a nice booster pump is $200. The budget conscious mechanic will probably say traditional compressor every time, but the Viair stuff is nice
I have a 1gal California Air compressor that I really like - It's obviously bigger (but not giant) but possibly quieter (rated at 56db) and will seat anything for a third the price
Great vid, but a few items to note:
-that chinook pass isn’t supposed to be run tubeless. Maybe that doesn’t affect the results for each compressor wrt inflating smaller volume higher pressure tires but it just might
-did you inflate with valve stems in? Sometimes just taking the stems out will help with seating the bead to increase airflow blast rate
-did you note how tight each tire was to install? Or how tight they were to the inner rim once installed? Looser fits are generally much harder to seat properly since the air blast will escape through any gaps instead of blowing the tire up onto the bead seat.
Great job on the vids and keep them coming.
What would be the best way to run the pro in a home workshop? Looks great!
Hey! Most home guys who have a pro run it just like Nolan did here. AC/DC converter rated for at least 40 amps and you’re good to go!
@@raf_rides thank you! 🙏🏽
11:50 i mean there are adapters. when i was kid i had adapter that allowed me to run plug like that at home from wall socket.
Wow!
Nice convenience item, but im still not going to use a tire/rim combo that i cant reinflate trailside with a minipump
What did you think of the inflator? I've been looking for a good shop inflator for work because ours suck, and the Park Tool ones are never in stock with our distributors. Maybe you could do a video on comparing some good shop inflators?
I’ve only got the Viair one, the park one, and the industrial shop one (no gauge) at the shop I used to work at for comparison. TBH, the one included with the Viair is really nice. It’s not just an afterthought.
Are those rims hookless I find them harder to seat then a hooked rim.
These are hooked
Can you use these compressors to help dry your bike after a wash?
the PRO has about 3 seconds of serviceable air from the reservoir, so yes for that one. The other ones only have the air stored in the hose which isnt enough for drying jobs.
The road Rene Herse tire (Chinook Pass) is not tubeless compatible
Rene Herse tires stretch. Rapidly unseating and reseating them will not be a good test. I say this having had the same experience I saw you having in the video. Leaving the tire off the rim overnight will allow the tire to contract again and reseating will be much easier.
Didn’t even know that. No wonder I always have a hard time. Thanks !
Boy, do they stretch...
I find that the 12v compressor that came with my _car_ (no spare tyre) works just fine
Seats tubeless beads??
@@TheBikeSauce Yepp - Maxxis Assegai 27.5x2.5 in approx 10-12secs but quite noisy & has to be plugged into cigar lighter
@@TheBikeSauce I use a handheld ryobi 18v "inflator" and I haven't had any problems seating the tire beads. Never needed that sudden burst of air.
Dang, that’s very fortunate!
Some tires are really not easy to seat. Definitely more of a tire issue than a rim issue, but it can be the case that a mediocre tire is OK with some rims but almost never seamless, as it seems to be the case with certain tires.
50A is a lot of current capacity from your 12v 600W power supply. Your wires are quite skinny…if you ever draw that much, you may need thicker wires
I don’t think I mentioned it draws 50A. Also someone did the conversion in the comments. It shouldn’t be drawing anywhere near even 20A at the wall after the voltage conversion
I have a bike with tubes and rim brakes. I literally built it, and do all my own maintenance on it. Whenever I deal with the modern version of the bike I give up and just have to spend hundreds of dollars at the bike shop. Why did I do this to myself lol :)
Why is the hose 300 feet long? That's not rightly suited for such a small pump.
Haha, it’s meant to be car-mounted, so the 30ft hose kind of makes sense to get around the vehicle
You shouldn't be woried about your circuit brakers. Power supply lowers the voltage but increases the current. If you need 12V and 20A (12V * 20A = 240W) at the output and assuming you have 240V it will only draw 1A from power outlet (240V * 1A = 240W). Of course there will be some power loss due to heat but even if we take that into consideration we are still far away from blowing circuit breaker rated for 20A.
Conventionally American houses are wired with 120V rather than 240V, but the point stands. 20A at 12V is still only 2A at 120V.
Dang, great point
and small compressor will do this for 20.00
link?
this is just machinal common sense , i just cant stand that all bike products charge a markup for cheap auto parts , and most people have no idea
Mechanical common sense is knowing a $20 compressor can’t do this
@@raf_rides lol mine dose
@@raf_rides i give video proof , Thank you that should be a great showing