I Bought a "Refurbished" Xbox 360 from Lukie Games for $140…
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There's a lot to unpack with this refurbished Xbox 360 from Lukie Games... good stuff and bad stuff. Let me know what you think about this refurbished Xbox 360 from Lukie Games - do you think it's better than the Xbox 360 consoles I've purchased from DKOldies?
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There’s a lot going on with this console… what do you guys think?
If it’s actually refurbished then it’s instantly better than DKoldies
dkoldies might be better cuz dkoldies actually gave you THE CORRECT POWER SUPPLY
It's fine. Wrong Power supply is the big problem
GameStop easily better
The power supply could just be a genuine mistake and there response will be interesting, however the console looked refurbished, you will have to do one more now for certainty 😂
Imagine some mother wants to buy their kid an Xbox 360 and it comes with the wrong power cord and they didnt know it was the wrong one
That’s what I try to think about when I buy these. If they’re bad for me, can you imagine how bad it is for someone that knows nothing about video games? Wrong power supply, bad disc, non HDMI console. How many people even have a TV with AV inputs anymore? They 100% need to specify if you’re getting a console with only an AV port. If you don’t have an old tv or a converter, you now need to buy a $20 converter for an Xbox 360 that you already spent $140 on
Not to mention a good chance of getting the red ring of death with an old model 360
@Jacob R you can ask for new cases 3 broke in the mail and they sent me new cases for free and they should put stickers on the parts like gamestop put jasper stickers on the 360 and on the power supply
@@jrob0021 that’s why I have to find the perfect consoles and games for my friends and cousins. I have to ask them what tv inputs they have, outlet power, that kind of stuff
Imagine spelling ‘cord’ as ‘chord’. Imagine getting ‘didn’t’ and ‘don’t’ usage mixed up.
I also have no idea how these companies stay in business because they should be facing chargebacks on every one of these mistakes. They must sell enough to people who just think this is the experience of all used items, and don't ask questions.
As a professional electronics buyer I think there must be a more efficient way to buy spare parts, certainly cheaper. This 2006 machine might be OK but my 2005 failed, my 2006 machine failed and I sold it's replacement from MS cheap. My Jasper machine still works fine.
If they don't take PayPal I don't buy from them. Literally says cosmetically flawed for NON FUNCTIONAL DISK DRIVES AND SWITCHES just start ordering from them and then make claims with PayPal. Keep the item AND get your money back
By all these clowns constantly making videos about them buying up all their inventory for content
lukie's main thing is selling games, the consoles arent the main thing, they make a lot of money on the games, because the game they sell are perfectly fine
Lukie will actually let you keep what they sent, and then send you the correct items on top of that. They messed up on my order once. They even gave a code for a 25% off my next order. Thankfully because I used it on a bunch of Guitar Hero Games lmfao
These are mistakes that shouldn’t happen at all. They’re so simple that it should be required to do checks for this stuff without hesitation. They’re just losing money having to ship people new things or do refunds. Do it nice or do it twice.
They only care about making money at the front, and don't care about the experience.
Yet small 1 man companies like me NEVER RUNS INTO THESE MISTAKES. Like come on man. Now i dont refurbish consoles. I just test to make sure they work and thats it. Pair it with the power brick/cable the av or hdmi and thats that. I feel like once your operation becomes bigger mistakes happen more because they just leave consoles out and seperated from their cables. I keep all my tested stuff in bags ready to go.
@@vincentsgaming you get it, there is no big company that sells what these places are advertising. The care and time it takes to test everything like you and I do does not scale. They ship used products right to the end buyer and they get to sink the hours into finding out if there is something wrong with it. And there very well could be a problem they don't find. Broken 4th player plug, good luck figuring that one out before it is too late. Everyone is better buying from ebay sellers. For some reason people think $ = quality when it very clearly does not.
All of these companies deserve to be barred from selling used items until they get their act together. Sending items that are incompatible with each other is inexcusable, especially since they charge a premium over something like Ebay, Craigslist or Facebook.
the sad part it is not just companies that sell used games stuff ripping people off. i paid more to buy a open box phone recently instead of used or refurbished. the imie on the phone didn't match the box and the phone had chips in the frame. the seller said this is normal for the box not to match the phone which seemed completely wrong and shady. they likely just shoved a used or refurbished phone in a box and sold it off as open box for more money. i know the sellers definition of open box definitely didn't match the definition found everywhere else
retro game collecting is ruined because of stores like these
The solution to me is simple. Stop letting them use the word refurbished. List the products as they actually are used, but tested and lightly cleaned. That removes the false advertising, so people actually know what they are buying, and will bring the prices down to the right level at the same time.
Assuming they were the ones who did the paste job. It won't dry out instantly, so it's entirely possible it was done a couple years before it made its way to their stockpile. Extremely likely, given how old the firmware is and the sticking issues with the drive - Couple other things that should have been addressed in a proper refurb.
They refurbish their consoles much the same as DKO - That is, not at all. They're just lucky enough to be getting better quality stock.
Edit - Although in the case of the firmware, it's something you wouldn't want to be updating since it gives it a higher street value. But if Lukiegames knew that, they'd be slapping 'Comes with NXE!' on the sale page and charging more for it.
Bruh. They send you the wrong power supply 💀 I mean it is cheaper than DKOldies, but that's a L for Lukie Games.
If they had got the correct power supply this would be miles better than dkoldies. At least we can call this refurbished
Those dirt streaks you saw on the inside of the bottom shell probably aren't from cleaning solution dripping into the chassis, but from the fluid blown out of Air Duster cans.
I am shocked if they would use duster instead of a vacuum/blower on an industrial scale. That would get expensive and create a lot of trash. Maybe tho.
It's still amusing how EASY it was to play music while gaming on the 360. Something no console has been able to do as easily since
Spotify?
Bro has never used Spotify on the new consoles 💀
@@PupusaJrYT What's a spotify? Can't be easier than, oh I don't know...hitting play?
@@missedgames so instead of installing an app you load up all your music which could possible take more time
I bought a 360, 15 games, 3 original controllers with rechargeable batteries ( 1 halo reach edition), turtle beach wireless headset with receiver, all cables,wifi dongle, 60GB external hard drive and fiber optic cable for 50$ off craiglist.
I managed to get an Xbox 360 Slim 250GB in box basically still brand new from CeX in the UK for only £80. And when I say basically brand new, I mean BRAND NEW, there was not even a spec of dust on it and it runs like a dream.
@@TheFallofTheEleventh I miss CeX. We used to have one here in Boston but they shut down operations here in US.
@@danielsongomes8367 yeah they mainly operate in the UK now I think. Sometimes they have some products that are a little expensive (like maybe $50 more) but you still get them in the Box and they’re essentially still New, but should I ever have a problem it comes with a 2 year warranty where they’ll easily fix OR replace the order without any hassle.
Had to take off an X-clamp with my Modern Warfare 3 designed Xbox 360 S, as I replaced the thermal paste myself. Bought from Cex (the UK's GameStop lol) and the amount of gunk was unreal💀 But it sounds quieter and runs smoother since I did it. It's a wonder how it makes so much difference
I made the mistake of ordering tons of NES games from them in 05 or 06 and before buying I talked to them and confirmed they understood I wanted decent condition games, etc. I got crappy label games and was missing some too. So frustrating when I go the extra mile to talk to them in advance and had it worked out with them.
Any console sold used and refurbished should have an accurate and complete description. Sending you a non HDMI (even though it might have the Falcon based Opus board) console is crap without outlining it and including the wrong PSU is even worse, what if you don't have component on your TV? I will say that I experienced the same lack of fan ramping with my Falcon after a re-paste. That poor thing has been abused, but still works, knocked a resistor off when removing the x-clamps to preemptively bolt mod it which I've since removed, then pulling up a trace when trying to jtag it when drinking.
*Bro single handedly saved the Lukie from bankruptcy....*
Nice bot
+1🤪🤣 i love the amount of money this guys pay for nostalgia.)
If $600 is keeping them in business, they’re in trouble 😳
Also that thermal paste is pretty fresh for this model of 360
I would imagine any company selling used 360's tries to get rid of the super-early ones that still work as quickly as possible.
The X-Clamps are easier to remove with the special tools. That thermal paste HAS been replaced before, but hard to tell how old, but looks recent. Overall a lot cleaner than 360's I've taken apart and repaired.
I’ve taken off lots of X-clamps, best and easiest method I’ve found is using angled tweezers and squeezing in the end indented area while moving upward and it pops right out. A little hard to explain without showing but it’s a great method!
I had the same issue with the power supply in the UK, the shop I bought it from told me to dremel the plastic out so it would fit.
Yikes, big red flag lol
The Skyrim strategy guide is a masterpiece I wish they still did them
i have one sitting next to me
That NXE dashboard is the second best dash after the blades. Every dash after was unnecessarily slow and clunky.
This definitely brings back memories I bought a 360 when it came out. That dashboard was amazing for the time. I remember playing a game and all of a sudden red ring of death very annoying.
Off topic but I really wanna know how did you get thoose ds consoles all in like a bundle I want to get some but I don't know how you got a bunch of em
10:17 Data rot. Awesome video
I thought I knew a bit about retro stuff, but never knew about the power supply on different 360s. So thank you. You've educated me.
I love the look and feel of the OG Xbox 360 much more than the slims. Plus it is super nostalgic for me as I was 12 in 2006 when I got one. I bought a brand new/factory sealed Xenon Xbox 360 last year for $300 to add to my game room. Date of production is April 2006. Unboxing it was amazing, a brand new original 360 with a brand new headset/controller/cords in 2022. Replaced the thermal paste on both chips and added the extra fans. Doing that plus not running it for more than 1-2 hours at a time will prevent RROD. The prolonged heat is what would cause the chips to unsolder themselves from the board. So I am keeping mine as cool as possible with the best thermal pate, extra fans, and timed use at 60 - 90 minutes.
13:03 you could tell right here that the boltmod was not performed. If it was, those eight screws in the middle would not be there. I did the boltmod on many 360s, and became a master at taking them apart without even scratching the plastics.
Lukie fails though. NO Xbox should be shipped without an HDMI port, and every controller should be OEM. Not to mention they couldn't even include the correct AC adapter.
I was not a fan of the Hitachi drives. The LiteOn drives were my fave but were a PITA to flash.
I am in no way advocating for Luke games but the only time I ever bought from them was back in 2010. I bought a jungle green N64 and it was super clean. The controller matches and the stick felt brand new.
Granted this was 13 years ago so…
Oh my god the fact they sent a falcon supply for a xenon is horrible
That crack on the disc made it passed the stacking ring, which is causing the 2 poly layers of the disc to separate which is called delamination and that's why you see that distortion. It is exactly where the data layer is and its surprising the game even starts
Agreed, we see games with this issue all the time and they usually don't boot. It's shocking to see them work at all and we certainly wouldn't sell a game with a disc like that to a customer at full price, if at all. When a disc looks like this it's very much an issue of when the disc will fail, not if imo.
i'd say its better than dkoldies but them forgetting what power supply is used for it is a bit of a disapointment but they are easy to fine anywhere else they probably don't pay attention to the specific one for each revision and the ps3 you got from before i'm really starting to think that any place like lukie games or dkoldies don't wanna bother with the original ps3's since they are too tedious to deal with but in the end i would say this is much better than dkoldies or the ps3 you got from lukie as well i will always like lukie games also getting a xb360 with the NXE is a bonus
The official 360 wired controller and the Gamecube controller (not the Wavebird) are the GOATs OAT. They just don't fail until they are fully worn out, my first 360 wired I bought for my PS3 (huge upgrade from the crap Sony provided) but then instantly replaced all my 360 wireless controllers plus became my PC controller. I wore out the potentiometer on my 360 wired ctrler after 11 years of constant use, my new old stock which I use on my PC should last about a thousand years compared to the usage of the first one.
You should get a dreamcast or two (one from DKoldies too) since dreamcast troubleshooting is a PAIN when it’s not a simple issue (I.E spring replacement) plus there’s the question of modchips
distorted joey face is like 99% of the reason i watch your content. we need more of it
idk i could have so much on my mind but one thing I would never forget is checking problems like this with consoles etc before I would ship it.
Awesome video… slightly poor choice in hoodie/ mic placement lol
It's almost like they saw the first video and instead of ignoring the criticisms attempted to do better.
14:42 Who signed the chip board. Top left?
I didn’t even notice that. I have no idea. Maybe Lukie games does that if they actually open the console? Idk lol
I got my first 360 off of eBay for parts or not working, turned out to be a rehashed Gamestop piece of junk, but it was a Jasper model (last good version before the Slim). Taking it apart to clean, I noticed a redundant "fix", where they ran the 12V rail directly to the fans, so it sounded like a jet engine all the time, so after fixing the disc drive (needed a belt replacement), I took out the "fix" and let it sit for 36 hours as a burn in test. It passed, and has been a useful console since.
At least the strategy guide is in great condition.
I remember ordering from lukie games and I didn't have the best experience my I got av cables my TV doesn't support av cables only hdmi the power supply didn't work so I ordered a new one I had to wait a week to find out that the console didn't read games I still have the console should I throw it off a overpass or use it as a door stop
I bought GTA IV PS3 from Lukiegames. I ordered a complete copy and they sent me one missing the manual and map.
I emailed them and they said that they cannot guarantee that they will come with a manual and that they don’t separate them from the ones with a manual and ones without the manual. Same thing with the “greatest hits” version or “player’s choice” version etc.
So apparently even if it’s missing a manual its still “complete” according to Lukiegames.
Lol what in the world
Blades is super nostalgic and I loved the way I could customize the colors, but NXE is by far the cleanest one. Looks very premium and stylish. They went overboard with the simplicity in the new one and honestly looks extremely low res now that you look at it closely. The low res text is so much more apparent with the solid black on solid white, ultra simplistic look they have with the newest dashboard. I h*te it
Bro censored the word hate💀💀💀
@@JacobGamingStudios cant risk getting pushed down by the algorith 😤
You got the Xenon, Zypher, Falcon and Jasper. And indeed the Jasper where the best!!!
I just received a game today I bought from LukieGames, the listing was a stock photo with no description so I was mainly just expecting the disc.. they sent the collectors edition of the game, happy customer here 😊
I got a xenon 360 late in life having been a PS3 user. Got it CIB from my grandad who got it cheap from somewhere and it also had the wrong PSU, same situation. I ended up searching for parts to fix this unit and it was cheaper to buy the whole bundle than to just buy a psu and the hdd. (i was missing the drive and the sled for it).
so I now have 1.5 functioning og 360s lol
This makes me feel better about my Xbox One S that I bought today for $90 lol. Seeing that dashboard brings back some old memories!
looks pretty clean to me, minus that power cable
The first Xbox 360 I removed the X-clamps on, I almost sliced the tip of my thumb clean off. It hurt like hell and I bled so much I almost passed out. I’ve got a scar from it. You’ve definitely got to be careful with them because the edges are sharp.
Not quite sure on electronic stuff right now, but what is the danger of underpowering components? Oerpowering I get because you can fry stuff on the board, but with underpowering it just doesn't have enough power to run? Would love if anyone could clear this up for me.
If underpowered, a machine would not boot or shut down unexpectedly.
IMO these are mistakes that should not be overlooked.
There's no way they've even tested that system.
It's possible for them to have tested it, but when the packaged it the put in the wrong power brick. But still, putting the wrong power brick is wild.
Those square stickers under the 20gb hard drive are an indicator that they were once refurbished from Gamestop. Their QA team uses those. So this console might have been refurbished TWICE lol
I bought some carts from them b4. Good labels, but oh man. I cleaned them, and I pulled off so much dust and dirt off. Ik nes games are notorious for not reading, but it took several cleans to get them to work. And 2 of the games I got were on sale. Those 2 games were in trash condition. Since it was on sale, they felt like giving me the worst copies ig.
Just because it’s only av doesn’t mean it’s a xenon. Could be a opus. But since it’s 06 it’s definitely xenon.
I mean even if it was opus, it’s not much better
@@jrob0021 opus is a lot better. Opus is just a falcon without HDMI. Opus and falcons came out after they fixed the RROD issue. I’ve rarely seen these fail while working on these consoles if you take care of them. Jaspers are obviously the most reliable. Opus and Falcons are good though.
I'm impressed a Xenon is still alive with the original heatsinks. If it had been sent back to Microsoft it would have had its CPU heatsink replaced the extended heatpipe. It's definitely been cleaned and refurbished surprisingly. I wouldn't be wanting to pay $140 for an old 2006 non HDMI xbox. I bought my slim for like $50 equivalent with custom Firmware on it.
I miss that dashboard!! That other than "Blades," is my favorite Xbox 360+ dashboard! I always hated the Windows 10 themed dashboard, even to this day! I'd give anything to go back to that dashboard even on my Xbox Series X!
How do these companies keep getting away with this?
I removed an x clamp last night in fact. xbox one. clean out, re paste and topped off with an SSD upgrade, what a 500gb drive left the 'box with with all it's settings on was abysmal. it was left with like 360gb that was almost full, like 99% no joke, SSD has left it with about twice the space now
the x clamp wasn't that hard to deal with seeing a few videos on how other people did it. most tedious part though was putting it back together, the outer case wasn't sitting right and the front panel ribbon loves to stay out of sight when you almost have it
The goodwill in my town does this 10x better. they have all of them marked as either hdmi or non hdmi and then also have the powerbricks actually sorted properly so you know which ones to get
giving you the wrong power brick is one thing but for $140 that's ridiculous because I bought my 360 for $50 3 years ago and mine came with an aftermarket wired rock candy green controller and a 20gb hard drive and it still works and was also made in 2009
Lukie is hit or miss. I used them to complete my wiiu collection, mostly the dime a dozen shovelware trash. I was very confused to learn that they consider CIB just having the case and disc, they do not guarantee a manual. I shop elsewhere for my games unless they are the only option. I will say that their prices were decent.
Bought a GBA sp from Lukie a while back, idk if it was cleaned inside or advertised as refurbished, but it was definitely repainted, and came with an oem charger. No complaints
Except for the price which is far over market value, literally scammers
Just replaced the thermal paste of the Xbox360 Elite that I bought used about a year ago and cut my finger trying to remove those x clamps 😅
But it was worth it since it didn't crash again since (the one time it did before was probably due to overheating)...
But oh well, I only paid less than 30€ for the console so the time investment and the x clamp suffering was more than worthwhile ^^
Edit to say that I enjoyed the video as always, keep it up :)
Ay. They refurbished the console! That's good! Oh that console has an old dashboard! Cool! But wrong power supply... 🙁
i just thought about something
did they possibly know you made a video on one of their PS3's and saw it wasn't refurbished and when you bought the 360 do you think they could've actually refurbish the console expecting you to reveal it on video?
cause I do remember hearing people say dkoldies refurbishes the consoles they expect you to make a video upload about could Lukie Games possibly have done the same thing? or was the 360 bought with a different address or something.
That looks like new thermal paste to me. I took apart my Jasper 360 to replace the drive belt and thermal paste. Most difficult console I’ve done for some reason. I’d take apart 10 og PS3’s before a 360.
I've had Aura for a while now and I had no idea I could enter my GT!!! I just added it 😁 thank you for the information
I bought a bunch of SNES games from them and the packaging was so inefficient that my copy of Starfox was completely destroyed. They sent another one but it took 20 days to arrive.
I had a red ring of death on a Xbox I found at good will for 10$. Turns out it just needed a cleaning and new thermal paste. Pretty much was in perfect condition too
GameStop did the same thing to me years ago with the power cable
companies make sure to differentiate the chargers or any item for that matter just to avoid customer confusion and the confusion still happens... now imagine how the world would be if all the plugs were the same and you had to actually *Read* labels ... because reading is hard...
good transition to sponsor. good vid
I bought like 90% of my ps2 games from lukie games come in nice condition and I wanted to buy a ps3 and everything came yeah a 3rd party controller no worries but it didn't come with a charging cable I was like uh okay weird I guess I gotta buy one myself but I checked inside not too scary or dusty like dkoldies but hey it was cheaper than dk and it still runs like a champ a year later
9:57 Danny over here is confused on why it sounds like huge gusts of wind or tornados.
I would love to use Aura.... If it was available in Canada or anywhere outside the states....
I just got one off my local marketplace… OG xbox 360 120GB, Kinect sensor bar and an adapter to use on old console, 37 games, 2 Controllers, 4 Recharge battery packs with the recharger, Guitar hero guitar, 2 Rockband guitars, Rockband Drums and it cost 200$… always look local people
8:10 MiniBlades!
How do you check your gamer tag on aura
I assume you check with the email you used to sign up for xbox live.
Use a large screwdriver for the x clamps. Put it in flat at the end you want uncapped then turn it to pop it out. Super easy this way
Great way to destroy traces if it slips out. They sell a tool for it for a few bucks
Do you think Lukie actually refurbished it? Or did they just receive an already refurbished console that they sold
What scares me is loosing them huge thermal pads on the back ... What size are they even. I best get my err tool out to measure it next time as I'm sure I need new ones tho f X-clamps lol
Even Cex in the UK specifies whether they are selling a HDMI or No HDMI console, it's a shame that you're getting shafted by companies not specifying what their console is.
I am surprised functional Xenons are still out there. I had 2 and they both RROD. Stopped playing xbox at that point and got a ps3 instead. Eventually did pick up an xbox360 slim which still works great (though admittedly it’s only seen occasional use.)
You said earlier in the video, "It is, what it is."
Well, that's what Big Business says, as they send you the wrong part! 🙄🤣👍
I'm still trusting my local retro game store
at this point what do you expect? Also, the Lukie games and DKoldies sites look and price way too similarly in my opinion to not be in cahoots. Lukie started out as legit competition for DKO and they priced like it, now the prices seem fixed high between the 2 companies. It is unsurprising to me that they operate almost the exact same...
I don’t know what to expect, because they mess up something different each time. This one was literally refurbished 😂 but they messed up so much else
@@jrob0021 thanks for responding, It was supposed to be rhetorical, but you still got me laughing bc you are right, the only constant is that at least SOMETHING will be wrong.
You gotta get yourself an X Clamp removal tool. It makes it SO much easier and safer. They're only like 7 bucks or so.
Be honest, you have the console, what would you sell that system, saying you did supply the correct cords, and did the exact same refurbishment?
6 years ago GameStop were literally giving these away for free on black Friday. It even came with the OG controller and brand new batteries!
So Lukie is 1 to 1 and DKOldies is 0 to 3 now?
Wrong power brick, sending out RROD prone pre-HDMI console and 3rd party controller still so I'd only give Lukie half a point here and that's pretty generous. Better than DKoldies but that's a low bar to clear.
Well they showed the exact controller in the photo so they were more clear but no ones honestly gonna go out of there way to make sure it's oem
I would much rather receive the wrong brick than a console caked with dust. Its a mistake that shouldnt happen but one i think people should get over it especially if you've had a 360 console. Since i was a PS3 guy that generation I wouldnt have a power brick laying around and i more than likely would just get over it.
It isn't really a mystery. An employee is lazy, while another does their job.
You dont even need to open it up. When you tell me you feel scalding hot heat from the back, you know you have recent thermal paste. ALL of these systems blow cold air when they have the void warranty sticker not popped. So if it has not been opened, most likely it will overheat. Not only do these red ring but they used that commercial use white thermal paste on these and it does not last long and will dry and crack even when not being used, just over time.
I really hope to find a Xbox 360 with a nxe dashboard that's what I had with my first 360 slim in 2012 and I'm nostalgic for. The metro dashboard is or boring I'll just avoid newer games that will update the dashboard and play them on something else
Just as well they sent the correct lead for the console; shame it was the wrong power supply though! The game could have been damaged in transit, maybe? Either way it's a shame that the disc was damaged! (Hint for company would be to check things first, take on board feedback from the customer and rectify the issues raised. Just saying!).
I'm gonna guess it was damaged in transit because while anecdotal I've bought approximately 47 disc based games from them no problem 40 of those being PS2 games and the other 7 being 360 games
I got an NES from Lukie Games' eBay page and it was really clean. The 72 pin was replaced and the cartridge slo was really clean. Overall, it worked great! Must've got lucky I guess.
Imo from what we can see they really did a great job cleaning the console. It's a bit pricy but it's super clean and they didn't forget to change the thermal paste. I think they need to focus on finding something else to blow air though... That liquid is going to break machines at some point. Also, they need to double-check components, plug everything in and test before sending. I'm sure they did at some point but giving the wrong power cable is unacceptable. Still impressed by the great job they did inside.
I’m sure the only reason this thing was repaired is because it came to them with red rings. This version of the console is notorious to say the least
Another great video dude keep them coming 😊
Microsoft and Sony need to start making their consoles backwards compatible. A big problem that I run into with these PS3 generation consoles (I forget if it's fifth generation or sixth) is that they weren't built to last.
It's possible that some of these refurbished console's were refurbished to some degree before the store took ownership of it
For example dkoldies won't pay out or ship back anything they refuse to take so if I were to sell them a console I'd open and give it a quick clean out before shipping it to them so that I stand the best chance of them actually paying me for it but then the next person to buy it may think the store refurbished it and give them a pass when the store did nothing but wipe it over with a damp cloth