Top 7 Worst Beginner Motorcycle Choices! (Must Avoid)
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Ah yes, the "Breeding Blakes" service... It's a huge pain in the butt and makes everyone sad (except Blake of course). But seriously, I'm trading in my ninja 250 tomorrow for a versys 300. I love the little ninja, but it has carbs and I just want a bike that is a bit more reliable. The Versys 300 does everything I want for this stage of my life.
MV Agusta F4 1078 RR. Best beginner bike for anyone that is buying their first bike.
@@Aya_Brea1998 this is a very expensive bike, so why do u think it's the best beginner's bike???
Thank you
@@michaelconner9796 aww owiwow would what questions
"This bike has no character" translation: This bike is a well built machine with competently designed ergonomics , reliable mechanicals And an excellent suspension.
And is about as soulless as it gets and may actually send you back into a car. That being said, the dude has a point about drum brakes.
@@KiyanushKaranjia sorry but to me it's the unreliable project bike from the 70's that's going to send me back to my car!
This "soul" thing has never made any sense to me. It's a goddamn machine, none of them actually have any souls, that's what makes a machine a machine.
What you're really trying to say by "soul" is asthetics (which are subjective) and brand loyalty (which is also pretty subjective). The problem with "soul" is it gives Harley-Davidson an excuse to be lazy and keep making the same outdated boomer-bikes for 50 years at ever increasing prices. This isn't a sustainable recipe for success though. Thankfully Harley-Davidson looks to be headed in the right direction with the Pan America and Sporster S.
@@KiyanushKaranjia Damn I loved my Ninja 400 cause of it's comfy ergos, it's dreamy handling, It's punchy acceleration and it's certified reliability. (Not to mention amazing price)
I didn't realize I was supposed to add arbitrary and pretentious qualifiers that annihilate some of the appeal of motorcycles just to have a more "fun" bike.
That's why I should get a bike that spills oil like a tanker, has back breaking ergonomics, the ear splitting bum loosening death rattle of a Harley, the maintenance costs of a German built Ferrari. Oh, and it has to be some one-off luxury bike too, because the whole community aspect of riding is just fortune cookie nonsense and the REAL bikers are rich executives who ride their bikes once just to show off...
The other way to say this is "clinical". Some people appreciate that, some want deficiencies to make up for. All bikes are fun, the clinical ones are great, but the bikes that create stories are a bittersweet combination of image, fun, and ruin.
I can ride my 600 for hours & not even have that many problems with comfort. I started on a cbr 600 last year & the first bike I rode after the msf course was a brand new mt10 the power was crazy & I was able to manage it no problem, but the fact that it was so upright & heavy made me choose a sport bike. The Inline 4 sound as well is something that makes me always smile. I commute in a city as well & while it isn’t the best on the 600. I wouldn’t trade it for the world when I am on the backroads because nothing compares to it. The power is fun but it’s not too much imo as long as you respect it. I would not recommend someone to not get the bike they want because of someone else’s opinion. Literally the entire world said DONT GET A 600!! They are to fast & it will kill you!!! Put 7k on my CBR in 4 months & didn’t die. I’m also a 22 year old so I am not a old man who is “more wise”. Either way I say go for what you want if you feel that you are mature enough & can respect a lot of power. If you don’t then it might be best to start on a 500 or less.
I love my r6 as my first bike and I never regret not starting with 300s
I started on a CBR 500 R and got the CBR 600 RR after 2 years. It is one hell of a bike but I really wouldn't recommend starting on any serious sportbike. The first ride with it was crazy, I had 0 control and confidence in corners because you have to ride a sportbike with your hole body and not just with your hands. A beginner usually still has to learn many things before being able to controll all that.
@@TheManCraZy12 I guess it’s different for everyone, the only experience i had on a motorcycle was the motorcycle safety course & that was it. I rode a buddies MT-10 after the safety course and that thing wasn’t even that bad for me. Just awkward and heavy but I respected the power and had no issues. My first ride on my CBR was actually to test drive it & I had no issues at all doing that. I consider myself to be a good rider now too so I had no issues starting off and learning on my 600. I am sure it is easier to learn on a smaller bike for almost everyone, but I just didn’t want to have to deal with selling my beginner bike & finding a new one after I was more experienced.
@@Jrhome1999 noob here, thanks for sharing 👍 I'm not totally new to bikes and such, done a little on friends bikes and a fair bit of tooling around on pit bikes, grew up on 4 wheelers and mostly 3 wheelers. I have basic handling, mechanical aspects like a bike type transmission, etc. Also done a lot with fast cars including a mid 6 sec promod with approximately 3000hp. Finally taking the leap and getting a bike. Riding course is scheduled. Im not a small dude, 6'2" and 250ish. The goal was to end up on an MT09 SP because I love anything triple and a naked/upright bike is my style. Definitely not a beginner bike though some have done it. Having ride modes and electronic features makes me want to just get one. I think a 300 is going to be boring pretty fast. Maybe a Duke, MT-07, etc. Not interested in outright speed, just torque and acceleration. Anyway, Definitely still food for thought.
im getting a zx6r next week at 15 years old. I've ridden dirt bikes and Harleys since I was a kid, defiantly the odds one out in my family which is pretty much all cruisers but I'm hyped.
Although I'm not a beginner my riding has been cruisers. My 2011 dyna street bob is making 106hp/122tq so I thought the z900 would be a perfect 2nd bike not really thinking it couldn't be that much faster than my dyna. Needless to say one half throttle 2nd gear pull on the kawi that assumption went away real quick lol!!!
Yeah bro at the end of the day cruisers are heavy and slow compared to any sportbike 600cc and above.
I went from a rebel 250 to a ninja 300 to a 2010 zx6r then finally a 2020 z900. I love having a comfortable bike that has 600 sport bike power with liter bike torque.
Z900 bros unite!
600 level horsepower and liter bike level torque with comfy ergos and good looks seems to be the magic combination when making a bike. That’s why bikes like the z900, xsr900, Ducati monster, and speed twin are so successful
Lmao I know what you mean. I spent 7 years riding only Harley’s. I rode with sport bikes quite a few times and thought well they’re not much faster. I got my MT-09 and opened up 2nd gear on the way home and was like holy shit this isn’t even in the same realm. Then I got to a stop light, and barely giving it any throttle the front wheel came up and I realized I’ve been lying to myself for a very long time about the capabilities of a cruiser.
After I got my license here in The Netherlands I bought a 2019 Z1000 as my first bike. Had absolutely no problems or near death experiences with it. It all depends on your right hand and self control. Don’t listen to other people, you have to listen to yourself. Respect the bike and it will respect you back.
Totally agree, my first street bike was a KTM super duke 990 that I still have . At the end of the day the throttle is in your hand 👌
I have licenses in both US and NL, and I say it comes from how these two countries train riders in completely different ways. For a full Dutch motor license, you go to training on a full powered bike (mine was a 650) and learn parking lot maneuvers on it. This gives you the respect and the actual skill to smoothly operate a powerful bike. The US MSF is a different story, the 125 cc eliminators require 3/4 throttle to reach parking lot speeds, so you would think it's twist it all the way and go... Until its not, and their government still thinks doing basic parking lot things on a 125 gets you prepared for any and all road legal bike money can buy.
I'd say know your limits and the bike's limits, in relation with the road condition and the traffic culture. Do all that, you'd have minimum risk of something going wrong.
@@SprinterFS interesting, its true I got my license when I was 21 and had to do my trials on a 650cc. The AVB trial really gave me the skills to handle the bike. They are very strict with handling out licenses here. Nevertheless I still own my Z1000 and to this day I didn’t make a scratch on it. 👍
I don’t trust myself on a bike like that, yet. Plus insurance etc. But buying a bike like that tells me you’re a bit of an adrenaline junkie yourself. How did you stop yourself from just full sending it?
The reason yamaha doesnt build the 600 for street anymore, is that they didnt pass euro 5 regulation, because it would be too expensive compared to the amount of expected sells.
But of course they want to buy that R1.....
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 i dont know. But not in europe...the one who passed in europe is the cbr 650r. Its a big investment for the manufacturers to pass with 4 zylinders which have less than 1000cc. Suzuki for example cancelled the GSX S750 and come with the lame 950 now..
Its an excuse which I have read several times..
I want a new fz6
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 the compliance laws apply to bikes that are changed after the compliance laws went into effect, essentially when honda wants to update the cbr600rr they will have to weigh whether its worth meeting the compliances or like yamaha wants to sunset it.
Nobody buys them anymore -PERIOD ....Yamaha only offers race-spec versions for privateers, WSBK Supersport ..
Fun Fact for you guys. I am from Germany. Here you are doing your driving school on a 600-700cc Bike. Like the CBR 600 or the MT07, Er6n etc. You get it. And you can only buy 125cc for the 16 year olds. And the next are the 600s and more. No Company sells anything between 125cc And 600cc here. So EVERY Beginner buying at least a 600cc bike with about 70-80hp. Its the smallest you can get. But, to be fair. Driving School in Germany is wayyyy more than in the US. It will Cost you about 2000-2500k to make it and there are about 30hr of driving plus technique Training and about 12hours of Theorie meaning, how to ride. So often I have watched dudes riding a bike on youtube that are from the US thinking...how the hell is he even aloud to be on a streer with a bike 😄
Damn I missed the assignment. My first and current bike is a 2011 GSXR-1000. I've respected the beast that it is and it has been good to me.
What an incel
great video. yup, i was one of those guys that getting back on a bike after 40 years, at age 66, i have driven everything but a tank. i wanted a Honda Fury, 1300 cc chopper style. thank goodness for lousy credit. i ended up getting the Rebel 500. man, i can tell you, it's quick off the line, easily does 80-90 mph. only weighs 416 lbs. easy to control. it's a small looking bike, but i love it. it's fun. fun i tell ya!! i've added bags, and floor boards, and a rear fender carrier, i get a lot of compliments on the look, and other riders give me the wave when riding. me be a happy camper!
Nice choice!
My dad was in the same boat - returning to riding after something like 30 years. My sister and I bought him a Honda VTX and he adores it more than anything. Good on ya for getting back on!
Similar story. Looking for the "right bike" and leaning to V-Strom 650, KLR650, and Versys 650.
Oh, I have driven an HMMWV, Jeep, wrecker, tractor trailer, 4 wheelers, and a tank. But no aircraft.
I’ve never been this early too a Yammie video. Is this what it feels like to be at work early? Lol
in america a beginner bike is a bike that has an engine cc with 3 digits, and the first digit is 3. in europe, a 125cc bike is the max you can get until age 19. then if you do your license steps it'll be 21 at which you can ride unrestricted. honda groms, 125cc cbrs and cbfs, yamaha ybrs and r125s are a very common sight with teenagers.
For real. My first bike was an 07 cbr125, from that I went to a cbr400r and a gs500, and am now riding a 2000 sv650 (passed my test just after the licencing laws changed 😭) but the sv is plenty smart enough for British roads!
@@bassplayer7693 oh definitely, you don't need more than 400ccs on British roads. Won't stop me from getting a Kawasaki H2 and driving that around tho lol
I'm a long-term yammie fan & subscriber, but lately I feel like a lot of the content is just being recycled.
Maybe being a rider for a couple of years makes the content mostly unsuited for me. Idk.
I still love, watch & share.
I agree .
My takeaway from this video: it’s better to start on a R1 or even an H2 than a 600
Hey yammie i bought a 1981 cb900c for 200 bucks from the second owner with a stack of service records drove it 45 miles home. I worked on it for a couple days rebuilding the breaks and fork seals with my dad, who grew up working around multi cyl carbed bikes. I had him break out his old tools and showing me how to use them to tune the carbs and had it riding great i put another 1000 miles on it in a month before the end of the season. My dad and i had a great time doing somethimg as a little father son project, sometimes it is worth it to get the old bikes.
You got lucky, I had an 82 900c and i loved that bike but it had so many issues that I ended up trading it for an 02 shadow 750
100% agreed. Carby bikes are simple and easy to work on once you know what you’re doing. And it’s necessary (and not difficult) to learn the basics of how your bike works.
These guys are at the end of the day pretty uneducated when it comes to anything mechanical. They aren’t car guys who converted. So you can’t really blame them for finding some stupid simple stuff relatively complicated.
Tuning a carb is as simple as turning a screw, tuning anything efi takes computers, dynos, many hours etc. Not saying that one is better than the other, but both have their advantages. These guys just skim over carby’s because they still don’t understand them for some reason…
Don't worry Yam and the gang just have an irrational fear of carbs
@@izzy031096 Speaking as some dude who literally undergo from carb to EFI due to legal concern (Carbs being phased out in 2016 due to emission law, along with 2 stroke) that's a load of horseshit. Especially in the age where most fuel have ethanol mixture in it. And I'm just dealing with a dinky single cylinder. Carbs are for if you actually spend more time in the garage than on the road.
@@victoriazero8869 Not questioning your competence, but if you can't re-jet and set up a single carburetor to deal with alcohol gas, perhaps you should find another hobby.
An old carbed bike, is THE PERFECT starter bike. You can drop it without being sad about it. In the same time, you learn ALOT from diagnosing the problems and fixing them both big and small.
But it's just as likely for it to not have any problems at all. My first 2 bikes were carbed, didn't have to touch the carbs on either of em the entire time I owned them. Was literally, put on choke, start bike, give it a minute on choke, turn off choke ride off. And they weren't singles either. First bike was a Honda CX500, and the second was a suzuki Bandit 600
100%. These guys always harp on about how complicated and difficult carby bikes are. I pulled the carb off my dr350, pulled it apart, cleaned it, put it back together, and reinstalled it, in roughly an hour the first time I ever did it. They really aren’t hard, and the lack of wiring makes them super simple.
@@mrvwbug4423 exactly my point! My first was a gs500 dual carbed
@@izzy031096 Yeah, I used 2 hours on my xv535 virago.. but it was a dual and yamaha in the late 90's were bitches when then were building mc's
As an old bike lover, I disagree. When learning to ride a motorcycle, it's best to just focus on learning how to ride. Learning to be a mechanic at the same time is a mistake. Get an old bike as your 2nd bike.
This explains nothing to me lol, I started out on a brand new 600 absolutely love it, I think the reason why it worked out so well for me tho is because I respected the bike and it’s power knowing that I was on a bike that was meant for experienced riders. I basically defy the video as a 600 was a perfect bike for me.
Ya I ordered mine too and gna do the same all be alright
This is also my experience exactly. Starting on a 600 isn't a bad thing as long as you have common sense and a willingness to learn.
i have an 07 kawasaki ninja 650R as my first bike and honestly it feels really good especially after doing my M2 course on 300s (two days with 16 hours riding overall). the power doesnt feel like more than i can handle and its just super fun to ride.
@@wrench_boi how long have you had yours?
Yea it depends a lot on your previous experience with vehicles in general.
If you are a beginner but you’ve been into vehicles, specifically racing, for a long time you probably know how grip works, gears and clutches, weight transfer, power bands, etc, and you can start out on a fairly powerful motorcycle if you’re smart and careful.
If, like many people, you just want a motorcycle but haven’t really been into cars or motorcycles very much, you may hop on a 600 and hurt yourself as you’re trying to figure out the basics of gear changes and turning.
For me my first motorcycle was a yz250 with a 300cc bore kit, and a bunch of aftermarket parts. The thing was crazy fast, especially for the single track I used it on mostly. However since I had been into cars for quite a while and done a ton of research on bikes I was prepared and able to ride the bike safely. So yea, the first bike I rode ever was a tear-your-arms off old 2 racing stroke and I never got hurt.
8:02 "You'll go full plaid[...]" :D Space balls reference. Nice.
Gotta say groms my first bike and learning on it was so easy, I agree highways are not an option but holy heck it is such an amazing bike to learn on, so nimble and forgiving
I started on an 86 700 interceptor, probably was the best bike for me to learn on. Got used to the weight and power wasn't over bearing but enough to teach me throttle control/respect.
Thank you stomping on the super sport 600 (or larger) !!! I KNEW 4 guys that did this, against my pleading. Sadly, they are now no longer with us. I actually know shops that will not sell them to beginners. They have a conscience. So your suggestions are good, but you mainly look at street bikes. There are plenty of enduros that are fine from 100cc to 400cc. The 300 and 500cc street bikes are best for sure. Good handling, power, and breaks for a beginner and low cost, even new.
I've been riding full time since 1970 with many, many bikes under my belt, so I can speak with some knowledge on this. Find a veteran rider (not a crazy young racer) to shadow and get pointers from. Stay off freeways and real busy places until you are comfortable. Watch wet paint stripes! Danger, Danger! DON'T go fast into corners until you are VERY comfortable with it!
While there is a group of people who isn't suited to start on a larger sport bike, there is also another group who can. Starting on a 600 is a good idea for some people.
I get it and I was warned as well. I still started as a beginner on a liter bike. I respected the shit out of it and definitely don’t exceed the speed of what I’m not confortable with. I’m still here and been riding for 6 months and 2 classes under my belt. Maybe it isn’t the bike but the rider. I recently got it up to 140 but I normally just ride with the flow of traffic
I’m sorry for your losses. I know it isn’t the same for everyone but I have to agree with Liam on this one. I started on a 07 cbr 600rr about 2 years ago with no other experience except the motorcycle safety course. it was the best decision I could have ever made. I am a very proficient rider now & I absolutely fell in love with riding & with that bike. I have put over 13k miles on it since I started.
Thank you to those that replied!
I'm glad you guys are sane people. I hope that you remain safe and enjoy riding. Good job!
I wonder if you time riding would have been more pleasurable on a bike that was designed for our streets, instead of a race track???
@@marksfarmcraft1888 honestly you might be right on that one. I am looking at a second bike actually. One that is just for commuting & enjoying a ride. I love my sport bike but it is hard to ride for long periods of time. I hope to find a cruiser here pretty soon. Do you ride?
Interesting vid, yammie. Actually, what determines a good beginner bike all depends on the specific rider's size, dexterity abilities, and learning capacity. I have taught a lot of new riders learning in all those bikes, and I can safely say not one of them ever came close to having the major accidents you had. Anyway, ride safe, god bless u.
You must be a motorcycle instructor because that is the most insightful thing ive seen on here. It's so true what you say its all on the ability of the rider. I wouldn't put my 60-year-old father who is sedentary and has never ridden a motorcycle on an r6 but my friend's that are athletic have great reaction time and are quick learners with their hands all started on r6s with no issues thanks to the instructors on the track they could feel confident riding an r6 after only 2 days.
@@walkerfharris confidence & skill are two very different things. Having the confidence to do something does not mean you have the skill to pull it off.
@@dcptiv true but twisting a throttle and cornering are simply not that difficult to do as long as you don't ride faster than you can handle you're fine. Just like in a car.
With insane insurance premiums I have no idea how some of these kids afford new motorcycles, even used ones. Back when the FJ1200 came out. I went to buy one, found my premium was $1,500 per year. So much for that dream bike. How anyone can afford a $20K motorcycle, finance it, and carry full coverage insurance on it is just pure nuts, why would you want to. Heck my Daytona 955i cost me $98/year .. My Duc was $125...I will never finance a motorcycle...
@@carlmayer691 you sound like a very honest person; but most insurance business deals with dishonest ppl (when it comes to young age). Most young riders of expensive bikes get their tags and insurances under the names of their older relatives (i.e., older brothers, uncles, fathers, and even mothers or aunts). Gotta love a family that helps each other out. Anyway, ride safe, god bless u.
2005 VTR250. Bought it cheap as the tyres were bald and no registration. Motor ran very well so the rest was fix as I went. Tyres, fork seals, kick stand and grips are where I'm at. Having a good local bike wreckers is great for slightly older bikes
The advice at the end was life changing!!
By 2030 this channel will have made at least 10,000 beginner bike videos
I am just starting out, my M1 license is only like 12 days old. my first bike is a 1983 Honda CM250 custom, the precursor to the Rebel 250. I love it, so far no issues so knock on wood. however it is an old bike, so I see what you mean about #7. but as far as it goes for me, its perfect. I definitely feel like I could handle a bigger bike, but for the purpose of getting me on two wheels and learning how to ride, I love it. thinking about upgrading in a few months after gaining more experience on the road.
I recently purchased a 2021 Cbr600rr, No abs. Honestly I was scared at first, since it is my first bike. But I’ve grown to really love it. I ride it almost everyday, and it brings me so much joy and freedom.
I bought a 1988 CBR 1000F, possibly not something you would recommend. But I am a bit older and quite sensible if a may say so. Futhermore in the Netherlands getting your motorcycle license takes a little bit more than just a course.
Haha me too, liked them when they first came out. 33 years later bought 1 as my first full licence bike. Its been a bit of a challenge but great out on the main roads. Stay safe M8
CBR1000F! Respect!!
Thanks, same with me, I like the old school look of it and that it looks totally different from modern bikes. Just have to be carefull with the throttle. Lucky that Germany is nearby, if i have feel the need for speed. Stay safe aswell!
Started on a 2008 zx6r in wildfire orange and I couldn't imagine a better start.
Do keep in mind that I'm light weight and exactly the right height, so my body wasn't an issue.
They are quite manageable when starting out, as long as you have some self control.
I started on a rebel 500. It's a good bike but it left a lot to be desired. I'm 5'9" and 200 pounds and realized that bike was horribly too small for me. Which in the end played a part in deciding not to upgrade to the rebel 1100 as my next bike. I ended up with the triumph Bonneville speedmaster, which I feel I may have been able to start with anyways.
How long did you have it for??
@@IAmGabe777 I had the rebel 500 for a year.
Don't usually respond to ads, but the I have the Nolan N40.5 and I can very much recommend it, especially if you're doing a lot of relatively lower speed riding (city or up to 50), though with the click on chin piece you can still safely take the highway if needed.
Yesss I desperately needed this video. I'm just about to purchase my first bike in just a couple of weeks. Never been on an actual motorcycle just a 50MPH baja mini bike. I would greatly appreciate any bike suggestions, I just want an affordable and reliable beginner bike that I can learn on
Yammie, i started watching your videos last couple of months as i started my driving course for motorcycles, but that video kinda confuses me even more. Almost every rider i know suggested to get a GSF 600-650cc bandit around 2003-2007 year. I really enjoy your videos, alot of educating for me so any input will be huuge for me :)
Keep up the quality content and more power
Moto guzzi v7 is an italian motorcycle that is easier or just as easy to maintain and arguably just as reliable as the triumph street twin. It's an air cooled engine with a screw and nut type valve adjustment. Just look at the v7's engine and how easy it is to remove the valve covers. Both really nice bikes. I owned the current street twin and the moto guzzi v7 III. Sold the street twin. The guzzi is just so unique and fun.
In India, its just Royal Enfield classic 350 which is Dad approved and if you dare look at a KTM you become the worst drug addict ever (for your Dad that is)
R15 is the best for India kids , ktm Abit too much power for noobs.
Are sports bikes popular in India?
@@shivagoundan8886 the roads are more popular I would say, but honest answer yes there are millions of enthusiasts
@@shauryathakur2683 by roads you mean like royal enfield type bikes right?
@@shivagoundan8886 not essentially but yeah.
You get sport bike
Road bad
Good sport bike can't stretch its legs.
Sport bike sad.
Great advise! Get something small, reliable, and something you are willing to scratch up and not cry about. You'll come out a much better rider.
Absolutely loved the end
Xsr 900 first bike. Amazing. Had alot of dirt/sand experience going into street though.
My first bike was a Suzuki GS 500 E. Two Carburetors, many problems. But the easiest thing to do on this bike is to clean the carburetors and see if it works. The best moment I shared with this bike was, to start it with pushing and running on the sideline of the (german) highway. That means you walk next on cars, who passes you with up to 150 km/h to get the engine started.
Great tips 👍
Thanks, as a newbie I will buy this tomorrow.
My first and only bike is the 2021 Royal Enfield INT 650. New exhaust to drop the weight and a tiny bump in HP (original is 47hp) and it's a great starter, just has a bit of weight to it (original is about 450LB, new pipes bring it closer to 410- 420 I believe). Not expensive, nice look, people ask about it. Parts aren't pricey for maintenance. Almost 6k miles before winter came.
Great job on the vid man
Started on a SV650 last year and put 12K on it. Awesome little ride but just traded her in for a brand new MT-09 and I gotta say, I’m in love.
That was really unexpected to see in 7:50 my hometown - Lviv, Ukraine.
The object in the background is "Arena Lviv" Stadium and the bike painted in the colors of our flag
My first bike is the Honda rebel 1100 can’t wait to go pick it up !
My first bike was a 2000 cbr f4i . Love it .
How many more beginner, 2nd bike lists are we going to see? As many as you pump out! Keep at the great content fellas.
IMO if you are a beginner and you want to learn how to wrench on a motorcycle the perfect type is, small displacement (125-350~400), single cylinder carbureted motorcycles, they are easy to work on, they are kinda torquey for their displacement without arm-ripping top end
if something goes wrong with the carb try to fix it, if you cant you can just buy one carb (and can even cheap out on a chinese one, since your motorcycle isnt that performance heavy to begin with) bolt it on and keep riding.
and if you get the itch to tune it, the sky is the limit, airbox mods, bigger carb, exhaust, big bore kits, nitro, fucking turbo, you will be surprised to how much you can do to one of those single cylinder smaller cc engines and they just keep going (especially if they are Japanese)
Buy a Ducati, you'll learn LOL..seriously after owning a 999 for 8 years, I learned a lot about that testastretta L twin.. It had a dry clutch, which I could tear down completely in about 5 minutes or less. In the beginning I was scared S-less to touch it. R/R radiators, cam belts, swinger, added a DP Pierobon swing arm... Ohlin R/T forks. DU301 shock...it was shockingly easy to work on, maintain and Terblanche made it so. It's just the parts were x 200% more than my Daytona 955i and it took months to get them...
I suggest you guys to get one of the triumphs one as they are literally one of the best beginner bike out there with a lot of power enough for beginners to intermediates get high on highway speedy air. Yeah the electronics may get overwhelming sometimes but you don't need to change those frequently.
I got bored with my daily driver sports cars (500hp 911TT, M3) and went with a ~600cc Yammie here as my first motorcycle after doing all my homework, but not anything sporty -- '21 MT07. First time on the street with a bike was my 3 hour ride home from the dealer. Wanted used but people are asking for more than new MSRP for their years-old motorcycles now, and was able to find a new one for sale at MSRP. So far so good. And yes I've got a full set of sliders on it (T-Rex) and always wear full gear :)
welp, at 18 my first bike was a brand new 2020 ducati monster 821. and i really got to say, i dont regret that one bit. absolute beast of a bike, beauty all the way, rides like a godess and who cares about the prices when you have fun riding it
A lot of good facts here. Definitely need to do your own research tho, especially on the project bikes and carbed bikes. It’s a good way to learn and gain mechanical experience to save you money when riding. Yea if you have no mechanical knowledge, or drive to gain it, don’t get a project bike or a carbureted bike. But starting with a bike where you have to work on it a little will not only save you money, you will be able to learn some mechanics and riding skills at once, and maybe even profit off the bike when you upgrade
I was that guy who did exactly what you said not to do in 2 of the points. My first bike was an ‘80 Honda CM400 that hadn’t run in years that I built into a bobber since it was put away by the previous owner as a project.
I started on an 1100cc!!! Yes it’s a lot but it was a 2000 v star carbureted and didn’t make that much power! Many people don’t understand that displacement doesn’t always mean more power! The thing was that it was really heavy but since it was a cruiser I didn’t care for speed or anything I wanted to cruise and it was perfect for me
Honestly one of my first bikes was a 1992 honda nighthawk 750 and i rode the crap out of that thing they are very reliable bikes and for the age of these bikes they are not hard at all to maintain and keep goin definitely a unique experience
I just bought a 2016 low rider s for my first bike lol I do enjoy it knowing I’m gonna grow into it
“Motorcycle shaped object “ ooooh my man Yammie been getting into blacksmithing huh?
again with the outro XD I love it Yammie gets me everytime.
I've a 1994 Yamaha xj600n. Yes it has 4 carbs and She got just 61HP. But I wrench on my 2 cars myself😅 learned a lot of things about these bikes, Yes it is things that I can't do, like carb sync or proper tuning, I had it apart completly, cleaned it put together.. And set it so it's capable to move(to the service and get it dialed in properly)
It is a 600 but not a gsxr 600srad with 130HP.
The Suzuki S40 was a perfect fit for my 5’ 8” height; low to the ground, enough power for highway but not too much to accidentally give it too much
I definitely did #7 and currently looking for a preferably fuel injected cruiser bc I really don't wanna deal with the dual carb bullshit on my only bike 🙃
My 1st was an '04 Katana 750. Rode it a year and sold it. 11 years later, bought a 2021 GSXR 1000R. Best purchase I've ever made. With a little work, got it over 180 hp to the wheel.
First time ever on a bike was when I drove my r6 home. Ima 6’4 18 year old and I love my bike. Yea it’s not the absolute most comfortable but after hundreds of miles in weeks, I couldn’t be happier w my first choice.
In India most of the beginners start on a 150 cc bike.
The best choice is Yamaha R15 V4.
650 cc are the not that usable in India except for track riding.
I got the R15 last year (here in Chile) and I am really happy with it. Cheap, cute, and with enough hp for a beginning bike
I know you did one already but how about another bike for tall riders list. The first one was great and it would be cool to see more. Keep up the great work 👍
Started on a 05 636 absolutely loved it but unfortunately had some distracted driver take us out on the last ride before winter
I started on a kawasaki eliminator 600, and it's great. No issues with too much power. I had absolutely zero prior experience too
I started on the r6. I’m still alive.
I love the thing but it definitely slowed
My learning curve.
great job sir❤❤❤❤❤❤
First and current bike was\is a ninja 400. No regrets whatsoever. Absolute perfect first bike in my opinion. Looking forward to getting a 1000 next though after riding this for 2 years and learning its ins and outs rather nicely.
Also, you must avoid being upsold a motorcycle that your granddad could help you fix.
Get one with a carburetor, chain, etc...The more sophisticated it is, the more it costs when it breaks.
If you own a newer bike second hand parts are generally unavailabe and finding a mechanic familiar with later models can be awkward if you are remote.
if you REALLY want to develop your skills.
I passed my full test in the UK started on a CBR600, even after watching most of your videos. Cant say ive had a problem apart from wanting a litre bike next. I think starting on a 600 when you have alot of friends that ride helps keep up on long runs out
I started on a CBR 1000RR 08’ new. I was drag racing my riding instructor in class, while another guy kept crashing in the bushes. I say get what you want, just be honest with yourself, skills, and maturity. That last one is why I never got another bike after mine got stolen. I was terrified of getting caught at a red light and getting arrested, not good for work. Also I did get bit by a new tire at about 5mph.
The Grom is one of the best beginner bikes, especially in the UK, it's unintimidating and easy to ride.. the UK has plenty of 125cc options as the licencing laws are much stricter over here.
Have fun not being able to learn proper throttle control
The groms under power does not translate well to a larger bike with more throttle. Someone who is used to choking the groms throttle could yeet themselves lol
Throttle control is piss, I went from a duke 125 to a MT07, we actually need to do a TEST not a course, which teaches us these things. We can't just go do a 30 min course and hop on a H2R. it's a lot easier in the USA.
I’m 6’4, I’d get laughed at less riding my gran to work than a Honda Grom.
@@callumboothroyd3766 It's not exactly piss , it's just that in Europe they teach you how to ride on a bike that is on the level of your license ... I have the A2 license , I learnt to ride on a CB500F . If I were to go for the A license I'd have to learn on a Hornet 600. So we kinda learn how to deal with the throttle , in USA you need to learn this alone .. cause you can take a mini bike , pass the course and then get a savage wheelie monster like a 690 or an MT-09 . If you have enough of a brain to not get something too powerful , the Grom is a fine beginner bike , because it's light, short , efficient, cheap , quick enough to get around town , and it will teach you the fundamentals of riding way better than a scooter. Plus it's extremely fun lol.
Hell I love my 40 year old quad carb suzuki gs 750 but I had an outstanding mechanic helping getting everything sorted out but its starts up with no issues even when cold asf i definitely recommend running ethanol free gas in it though if available but aside from that she runs great rides good and puts a smile on my face, its my second bike and so far my favorite
Yam...while i do agree on the older bikes as a first bike being a bad idea...carbie bikes and the "old school" tech do teach you what you can and cannot do on a bike and you do find the limits of the "old school" tech and lesrn from there
When I was trying to sell my 1985 Vmax a few years ago, I had a couple people ask me if it was a good beginner bike. Told them no but one guy kept bugging me saying he could handle it as it didnt look fast. Well, I still have the bike.
My first bike was a 87 V-max that i bought new from the shop. No problem. 😊
I started on a 790 duke ktm and its perfect i was able to ease into it
Hey... Love the videos.... information..... Experience. Lol you're awesome.
I am a beginner ON THE STREET i was dirt bike racer 30 years ago.
BUT, i want a street bike. Can i pick your brain? Would a honda shadow 750 between 2005 and 2012 be a good first bike for me? I was looking at the new Yamaha Bolt 2022 , but the death wobble BS is stopping me. Then the liquid cooled 😬 rebel 1100... I really prefer an air- cooled bike.
From the MSF... Yea i WANT rear disc brakes 🤭 that 250 i couldn't even stop sometimes.
Hey Noob what would be a good starter bike for me ?
i practice clutch for the first time using HD 48, and my first bike is a MV Agusta Brutale 1090rr 2011, and its all fine AS LONG as you understand what you sat on. first of all, i watch TONS of video regarding bikes and how it works. second, i start it slow and try to feel my bike as much as i can remember, the brake, the clutch, the gas, power, torque, basically everything. my 2nd bike is RSV4, 3Rd is panigale, and then i switch to japanese manufacturer and bought Honda cbr 1000rr sp1 2019 and now i change it for the cbr 1000RRR 2021. Just be responsible and enjoy whatever bikes you want.
The first bike I ever rode was a 650 ninja.. im 105 pounds and it was fun riding but once I tipped it over I definitely told myself it's to big for a beginner.. so I got a 2005 250 Kawasaki its in great shape for the year! .I was going to do a 300 but the trade didn't fall through. I am so much more confident on a smaller bike since I am a beginner! Glad it worked out the way it did and I don't let anyone make me feel I need a bigger bike ! Stay confident and start small!!! Trust this guy lol
My bike needs new forks and back tier but it's ok it gives me motivation to learn how to take care of it 🙃
I just started a couple of years ago on a CBF600sa (600 lol), carbed (lol again). Like it though :)
First bike is a 2021 cbr 600rr. Second bike is going to be a 99 ducati 996. Was a learning curve at first, but love it. Lots of slow maneuvers, and cone courses on my street. The 600 suits me perfect. Size wise and power wise for my defensive style. And for the ducati. It's just a cool bike and I have space and money.
Same here bud. I got a 21 cbr 600rr, no abs, as my first bike. I’m absolutely in love. I kept debating getting a ninja 400 or a cbr650. But I’m glad I chose the 600. Great everyday bike!
@Matthew Taylor it truly is. It's my commuter. Gets better gas mileage than my trucks and cars. It's comfortable. The powerband isn't awful for the commute either. Mostly highway. I live in Central Cal where all year is riding season. Don't need to worry about rain or snow lol. Plus the sound is fabulous.
@@seankerwin5979 couldn’t agree more. She’s my commuter as well. You’re lucky I’m over here in central Orlando. Most days are sunny, but when that rain hits, it’s a mood killer lol
I started on a crate motorcycle and it was in my opinion the perfect started bike not too powerful and not too underpowered. It was a Chinese bike and there were a few things I needed to do to it. But it was all thing that if you have a motorcycle you should know how to do. Everyone gives them a bad rap but I’ve had ZERO issues with it. It came in good shape I ride it hard and it is fine. It was cheap and it feels cheap for sure but that goes along with not being broken hearted if I drop it taking it into the woods.
I’m over here watching videos about which bike to get while also being completely broke and having no credit
My first and only bike so far is a 2007 Kawasaki ZZR600 and I love it.
My beginner bike was (and still is) a Honda Varadero XL1000VA, which probably goes against much of what you say here...?! I was ignorant but lucky, so, it has been the perfect bike for me.
Yayyy!
Watching this planning on starting on a Yamaha mt07 🫣 689cc
Thanks for sharing! please do a 2023 250cc Shootout!!
300 is the current minimum.
As someone who works on bikes, boats and arc for my self and others. the duel carburetors will drive you absolutely insane especially if you have to re-jet them and then re-synchronize them just to find out that it’s still running lean or rich
250cc or 300cc or 321cc here in the Philippines is a happy go lucky jetski rocket for us consider the 2 or 4 lanes of our road here.
I hope sooner I can have an R3 or Mt03 💓
There are plenty of beginner bikes that use carburetors. For example, my Yamaha vstar 250 from 2022. So far, it hasn't given me any problems. I know that one of the main issues with E10 fuel is that if you are not careful, the carburetor will clog very easily after a few weeks without use. But since I use it for commuting, I haven't had that problem yet.
i cant get enough of the NOOB tube!
My frist bike was a 1975 Honda cb200t cafe conversion I got the bike for free and it needed work I got running it was my first time riding a motorcycle and I loved it and I ended up getting a 1978 Honda cb750 scrambler conversion needed a little electrical work and go that running prefectly put 3000 miles on it and sold it and then got a very low mileage 2003 Honda hornet 919 big upgrade from a carb bike for me but I love the bike the more I ride it the more I learn it
Hey yam could you do a video on the gsx 650f it’s an underrated bike and is a pretty good beginner bike as well!
I started our with a Honda transalp 600 from 87 that was given to me by a client about 3years ago in exchange that i "get it off his lawn"
(It had been stranded there for about 4years)
A few maintenance touches, new tires and I was of,
I still own it today and loving it!
While I do agree with the list and all that you are saying i still think that if it feels right then people should swing for the fences and go for it!
You can always spend cash on a bike once you learned a thing or two about riding one!
Started on a 84 honda nighthawk 650, rode it about 2 months before winter hit. Then before i got it out for summer last year, I boughy a KTM 1090 adv R. Its been a blast, scary sometimes but im being responsible with it and knowing my limits.
Do I recommend it to everyone? Not at all.
Dont get yourself killed out there, ride smart, dont be stupid.
I'm starting on a grom. Because it was given to me.😁
But I wouldn't buy it as a beginner bike. I'm stuck on small roads. Which isn't bad to learn on, but still. Hope to buy maybe an XSR700 in the fall and sell the grom in the spring.
"Breeding blakes"., eh? Yup. Totally caught that. 😂
Was looking to see if anyone else caught that lol
One year on and 13 track days later , I moved up from a Ninja 400 to a Gixxer 750. Yes it is blindingly fast if you twist the throttle to exuberant, but no reason why that could not be a learners bike in responsible hands.