Top 10 Motorcycle Myths Busted
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Helmet Vision
0:41 Short Riders
2:09 Lane Splitting
4:40 Loud Pipes
5:33 Loud Power
6:23 Cars Cause Accidents
7:14 Layin' Er Down
8:25 Uncomfortable Gear
9:12 Racing Slicks
10:21 Euro Bikes - Komedie
a full face helmet obstructing my vision was my number one concern when I started riding, then I realized the visibility in a helmet is leagues better than in a car where you can’t see shit from those bar things at the side
You mean the A pillar…?
I agree. Rollover standards have forced thick A-pillars that introduce wide forward blind spots that older cars don't have. Wide enough to easily hide a pedestrian.
@@interestingoldthings4889there's a road in the UK where the bicycle lane perfectly matches where the A-pillar is so a bunch of cyclists got hit and some died. Tom Scott made a video on it
Have you tried riding lidless, to see if your vision and hearing are better when unobstructed?
As much as lane splitting helps to alleviate traffic, I don't do it anymore, 3 different times I've had cagers do everything from swerving in front of me, to try to squish me against the cement divider. Whether it's right or not, it pisses people off in traffic, and when they're mad they don't mind committing murder.
Which country is that? Here it's so common that drivers don't mind at all.
I live in the EU, hungary, and here the drivers even help you by giving you space when you lane split/filter, I haven’t had anyone steer in front of me with the intent to cut me off :/
In Canada lane splitting is illegal, in fact, even passing a huge traffic jam on the right side of the shoulder will even get you a ticket.
@HawgRiderBC Of course it will. It's Canada. That country seems to be doing everything it can to control and suck the lives out of its citizens that it can possibly do.
@@runeluqman u.s.
Full face helmet, open casket. Open helmet closed casket.
"Layin 'er down" is one of the worst strategies you can take to avoid an accident. As long as you have the rubber side down you can BRAKE and STEER. Once you "lay 'er down" you become a bywatcher and you can do abslolutely nothing to minimize the possible impact.
My wife and I ride. When we first started, I met a couple who also rode, and they showed me some of the road rash and scars they have from 2 wrecks. Fully suited and booted since then.
Facts. I've had nearly 10 accidents on street & track. Only one involved anything other than myself and it was a dog. It's fun to listen to noobies talk about how crazy car drivers are only to know if you're experienced and watching the cars you can anticipate their moves 99.9% of the time and avoid it before it ever becomes an issue.
When I first started riding I made some (bad) youtube videos and I had a lot of "stupid people" content. I stopped making videos after a while because genuinely nothing was ever happening to me again, it was so few and far between it wasn't worth making content. You can pick out a green rider content creator instantly based on their reaction to cars.
I always tell people, Ride like you're playing Chess ♞
Other drivers also get pretty manageable once you increase your space cushion to them. Just that rule alone averted a ton of close calls over the last year - plus, it made for a way more relaxed ride.
Riding a motorcycle has made me a more defensive rider and driver.
💯 I’ve been daily riding in traffic for two years. Not one close call. Proper positioning and extra space and you can predict all the cars moves before’s a problem.
Had a new rider tell me he regretted getting a textile jacket because it made him look like a "boy racer". He also told me that I should never use the front brake because it will make you flip end over end.
I guess he thought it was there for trick riding....
A future statistic if ever there was one.
"Front brake makes ya crash" is my favorite...
Some of those voices you just have to tune out. It's akin to stopping some muddy-boot wearer from walking through the door of your home and onto your plush white carpet. Just don't allow that to enter, and complain about how dumb it was.
I've heard the front brakes will make your bike flip myth a bunch as well. I think it comes more from dirt bikes because you can, not exactly flip, but more front wheelie pretty easy if you use aggressive front braking and lean forward while doing so.
I live in the city. My last bike had quiet pipes. My current one has loud pipes. I used to get close to a wreck by an inattentive driver. It almost never happens now. I'm a fan of loud pipes. Otherwise, I agree with all the rest. Good video!
Everyone I know with loud pipes says the same thing, but the haters just can't stop hating. I don't bitch at them for the sewing machine Rev bombs, and 160 mph wheelies, wish they would extend the same courtesy.
@@HawgRiderBC , sewing machine rev bombs. That's funny! I'll borrow that term sometime. :-)
I totally agree. I went from a stock exhaust wr250r to a ktm 500. People no longer try to merge into me.
when you're splitting to avoid distracted drivers, keep in mind they also wander side to side.
6:05 no (four-stroke) engine in the world needs "backpressure".
What it needs is the lower-pressure "trough" at the exhaust valve when it is open, between backpressure pulses, to improve scavenging.
Two-stroke engines do need backpressure to push some of the fuel-air mixture back into the exhaust slit. But that is a different story entirely.
I was going to comment this, MotoIQ did a wonderful video talking about exhaust design and back pressure. There was a comment by another individual that I feel said it best that the myth of "Engines need some back pressure" came from a misunderstanding from using runners, collectors, and exhaust piping that were too large that caused exhaust to lose velocity too quickly thus hindering performance. But because most people would rather parrot the same thing they have heard over and over (In this case, being PapaYam on what 'the old car guys' said), myths that have been disproven are perpetuated. Almost like there was some subject about myths that have been debunked...
@@TheChikyChiky Parroting crap people hear.....a plague in America these days! I am glad you took the time to present the facts. In a very simple explanation....back pressure is the enemy of an air pump. It literally pushes back on the piston. We want better flowing heads, and yadda, yadda to introduce resistance through back pressure negating said bits to make things flow better. Makes no sense to me. Flow charechteristic and velocity is what matters. Now enter the anecdotal evidence purveyors to refute our claims.
YES, YES.....THIS!
You do lose torque with less back pressure. That’s been proven
@@danielbush7914 do you have a link to this?
Most of the slides I've been in have entirely been due to poor braking power management, only three of them were somehow also related to the actions of other motorists. But that's why I'm a big fan of wearing the right gear.
YOU JUST HAD TO LAY ERRR DOWNNNN🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If you have had slides due to other motorist its because youre not doing predictive cautious riding and haven't practiced your progressive braking. Thats where abs comes in handy
If you have had more than 3 slides you belong in a taxi.
Wearing good gear is the last resort. It's like concealing a weapon. You don't use it unless your life absolutely requires it.
For everything else, practice practice practice practice practice practice.
ABS, IMU, traction control, high tech helmets, airbag vests, kevlar blah blah blah. None of that stuff is a ticket to skills. None of that replaces practice. All the doggone excuses in the world, all the money spent on technology and gear. None of it develops correct motor memory. Only practice practice practice practice.
@@exothermal.sprocketgood point. that's why you shouldn't use any gear and shouldn't have any rider aids.
The loud pipes thing may not be true in the states but in the UK any car or bike with a really good exhaust you can hear from far away. You can feel the vibrations in the ground type shit haha so when im sat in traffic in my car on a motorway/bypass (highway for you guys) I can hear the bike tryna lane split before i check my mirrors lol
I second that😂
My bike backfires and pops really loud, and a few idiots in cars who wanted to switch lanes without indicating, immediately swerved back into their lanes
3rd this 👍
I beg to disagree. If I have car windows closed, a/c on and radio on, I don't really hear any vehicle exhaust noises, not even if I'm following something like a Harley with load pipes. In any case, it can be reckless to assume that cagers will see or hear you and give way when they should.
And i will always stand by loud pipes. Not necessarily against cars, but wildlife. I live out in the country. There alot of larger critters out when im riding home at midnight or later. Deer and bears hear the bike and go the opposite way.
It's also a myth that engines need backpressure. The exhaust needs to be tuned to the size, configuration and operating range of the engine, but it has nothing to do with backpressure. It has everything to do with velocity and exhaust pulse tuning.
The pressure is what is used to control velocity and pulsing though.
@@stevec6427 The diameter of the pipe and the length is what's used to control velocity. Smaller diameter pipe will have more velocity but less flow potential so it'll limit power at higher rpms but gain low speed torque. The same applies to the intake side of the engine.
Obviously you have no practical knowledge of 2 strokes.
@@JoeStanek-vu7rl Yeah I'm not talking about 2 strokes. They are different and at this point, pretty niche only being used for hard Enduro these days.
I rode a friend's XR on a trail once and tall seats are a problem on slow trail crawls. That bike required commitment to the line i wasn't ready for. Went back to my little TC90 for the rest of the ride, never dropped it, never struggled.
My friend dropped the XR three times cause that tall seat was hard to stop on with rough ground.
He got a TC90 himself, beginners love em and they can slow roll all day comfortably.
I don’t hear many good arguments for keeping lane filtering/splitting illegal but to be fair there are plenty of motorcyclists who do so recklessly and give a bad name to those who do it responsibly
lots of highly populated areas on the east coast just dont have the lane space, they were built for a horse and buggy, not a full size pickup.
I had drag pipes on my 750 Shadow. It was LOUD! I noticed that Local deer and bicyclists could hear me coming so I suppose there may be something to the loud pipes thing. However, 3 hrs on thing and I was done riding for a while.
Do you wear ear plugs when riding with loud pipes?
Ya, loud pipes won’t get someone’s attention when you are in their blind spot before they turn at you, but loud horn after they turn will. Makes perfect sense!
If you're into bikes and gaming and you haven't played Road Redemption you're doing yourself a disservice.
Really? Most reviews arent great. I did put many hours into the original Road Rash so maybe I'll check it out.
Is it on PlayStation?
@@Win7ermu7eI bought it because I loved playing Road Rash on the genesis but it just doesn’t have the same fun factor that the original has
Always love the facts at the end 🎉
I'm 5'4" and have owned a 2012 R6, 2018 RSV4RR, 2022 RSV4. Never lowered any of those or dropped them due to my height.
I’ve been looking at pc builds all weekend and then you post a pc on a bike channel and it just happens to be a time I get notified you posted, a sign maybe?
Thanks for putting this out there Yammie!! I'm an old man and proud to say I knew all these!!
I've been riding for about a year now and I feel like I can avoid cars well enough to understand that if I crash, it's 99% likely my fault. So, I practice my trail braking and entry speeds and don't ride like an idiot. And now I'm debating swapping my Continental for a Indian scout rogue or a Triumph Tiger. Decisions decisions.
I've been eyeing the Rogue myself too 😁
@SkintSNIPER262 they're nice! A bit jerky on the throttle if you're not used to it. Eyeing the tiger cause they're more upright.
If your bike gets more daily use than your car, 100% get the tiger.
If it’s more of a toy and you don’t cover huge distances, then the scout might be a decent fit.
I love bikes that sacrifice practicality for looks and feel too, but like a bimbo smoke show, living with it is very different than riding it on the weekends.
@someguyontheinternet7165 great suggestion. I put 5-6k miles on my bike this past year. I commute when the weather cooperates and do weekend riding.
@@ajc-ff5cm Hello. if this can help. for this type of program i will go for the tiger any day of the week. a bike that will let you go where you want when you want. easy and comfy for commuting and can run on all type of roads/ surfaces during fun days. Way easier to sell if you get bored and want to switch for the indian later. ; )
In norway, motorcycles are expected to lanesplit. Its teached to us in the riders school
Depending on if filtering or lane splitting is legal in your area.
Im a motorcycle guy who also has a harley, no offense taken. Seriously tho i know what your getting at about em. Love ya pappa yams
The end of this video was great, the right amount of spicy
The only thing to remember while riding a motorcycle is " everyone on the road, including you, is actively trying to kill you." When ride with this in mind. Your focus increases. Your risk taking reduces. And you almost never crash. I learnt this about 4 yrs back. Haven't fallen off since.
lets all be honest, if ya just got leather gear only, riding gets pretty hot and uncomfortable. either way I never leave the house without it, even if I feel like a rotisserie chicken. why? cause road rash feels like a torch is burning you consistently and id rather be slow cooked.
Just wear perforated leathers in summer then....
Oh. My, God, how pleased was I to see the myth busted about short riders not being able to ride taller bikes!
It drives me F**king insane when some comments in review vids say s**t like " I cant own that the seat height it too high, I cant flat foot when I stop"
Where does this come from? Who taught these ppl that you must be able to flat foot when you stop!
In 45 years and 5'7" and 45 plus m/cycles I dont think I have owned one I can flat foot.
If flat footing was a prerequisite to owning a 'bike then the industry would never have sold a single motocrosser EVER!
Learn to ride a 'bike ppl.
I remember sitting at the lights on my Ducati in full touring leathers one hot summers day. It was about 95C. A taxi was next to me. The driver said "aren't you hot wearing all that leather?" I said "Yes, I'm freaking melting in here, but it's better than sliding down 100C tarmac in a t-shirt". I've been riding for 40 years, and only have one patch of tar/gravel under my skin (on my hip), from about 35 years ago when I didn't know any better.
I could be wrong, but on the comment referring to the exhaust specifically what the manufacturer chose I would actually say the biggest concern they had was making the bike pass emissions today
Yeah, That only care about emissions, Your exhaust is not designed to make power.
Yep. Exactamundo.
Thank goodness the EPA hasn't gotten as threatening as the IRS and the ATF...... yet. They've made attempts in recent years but perhaps their appetite was satiated a bit with the billions in payout from Volkswagen Auto Group. Now I see they're going after billions more with Cummins.
Full face helmets do increase the chance of neck injury to a rider, but only because they decrease the chance of death. Kinda how it works. You either get boo boos, or you find yourself paying the ferry man
I have restricted neck movement so a motocross helmet and goggles gives me more vision when looking over my shoulder than a full face + i can hear more .Loud pipes work very well where i live (Wales UK) country roads 60mph then small villages 20mph with cars coming out of side roads and pedestrians walking into the road ,with a pipes that have got some volume people hear you coming and dont step off the curb . I ride in leathers even when its 25 Deg C i have seen what sliding down the road does to skin Uk roads tend to have rough tarmac .Lain splitting what's that LOL i ride round North Wales .
I've always reckoned that the open face helmets that I've used have given me better peripheral vision and hearing than any of my full face lids.
Riding lidless is even better for that of course, but we don't normally expect to get away with that in the UK.
It will be interesting to see if the new 20mph urban limits in Wales lead to lower accident rates or lower rates of serious injuries and death in accidents. At least in my car, I can use cruise control to maintain 30mph but I have to use manual control to keep to 20mph, so I then then have less attention for watching the road.
Yeah I’m gonna have to disagree on the loud pipes thing. I’ve done my own unscientific tests and without fail , when I throw on my stock pipes that make my cruiser sound like a vacuum , I have twice as many people trying to cut me off. When I throw on my loud decat shorty pipe, people know I’m in the area which in turn makes some drivers a bit more conscious of “hey maybe I should pay a little more attention , there is a motorcycle close by” just my 2cents
Totally agree with you. I notice the exact same thing, especially when I switch from my BMW to my Harley.
Yeah, I was immediately like "no" is it SUPER helpful? Nope, Can people at a light hear me and notice a motorcycle is around them? Absolutely.
Thank you. I forgot to mention that in my comment. Loud pipes does save lives and I have been saved because people do know that I'm present.
@gohjohan I can't count the times I've nearly been in accidents with EVs. Even when riding my bicycle, the complete silence of EVs is dangerous! Loud pipes any day, and 🖕 the haters.
At least they aim the right way to keep me from hitting them. 🤣
After 35 years of riding, I got a little different perspective is all. ...Lane splitting being safer is relative to where you ride. Definitely not the best idea everywhere. Loud pipes are called loud because they can be heard from further distance and over other things that are producing sound also.. Thus announcing there is a bike close or coming. Which is safer than not.
Good video. Good discussion. 👍
I've been riding motorcycles for over 45 years, and I KNOW loud pipes save lives.
Especially in tight spaces like mall parking lots where cars may not see you as they back out. Neighborhoods where corner obstructions limit visibility, gas stations, and riding down back roads where animals can hear you and run back into the forest versus jumping out as soon as you get close
Your subjective impression is not definitive evidence. If loud pipes truly saved lives then every vehicle would have them and our environment would be an unlivable cacophony. Incidentally, I have been riding for more than fifty years and what's kept me safe are skill and awareness, not being a loud obnoxious asshole.@@HawgRiderBC
@@GrtSatan Okay Karen...
The cali in you is coming out. Exhaust systems are designed for emissions and some back pressure. You can and will get more efficient performance from a after market exhaust over the stock
I use full face helmet and it does obstruct my view.
Try turning your head. Seeing the edge of your helmet in your peripheral vision does not equal "obstruction".
Try wearing it the right way around.
100% disagree, loud pipes absolutely make you more noticeable to a car. I don’t even understand the logic. Noise draws more attention than silence.
I gotta say, the loud pipes saves lives, I have definitely noticed a difference in drivers noticing me compared to the stock exhaust. (r7 with an m4 exhaust). Might be an interesting video idea
How does that m4 sound on the r7? I have a m4 for my sv650 and love it
4:47 David Freiburger slander will not be tolerated.
idk how my exhaust compares to other motorcycles cuz ive only had one motorcycle which has an exhaust installed by the previous owner. It is not the stock exhaust and is loud and in my 2 years of riding it has already saved me a handful of times. And people overall become more aware that a motorcycle is around because of my exhaust which helps in the safety. To each their own tho :)
I don't trust that anyone in modern car with almost soundproof cabin then 13 speaker sound system blasting is going to hear anything
@@kimfoot7297 most people don't have their sound system blasting tho lol
I thought the "back pressure" myth was put to bed 40 years ago! You will often make less power with a straight pipe or zoomies because the valve overlap was calculated for the draw of the stock exhaust, back pressure is never a good thing on a modern 4-stroke which is why they go to so much trouble to produce huge baffled mufflers with as little restriction as possible.
You did David Freiburger dirty 😆
Haha yes! I see you showed some Bangkok in the lane splitting section. Nice! I have ridden in Thailand and yes sir, it’s fundamental to split lanes in traffic there. I think every rider should try riding in Asia to get some experience. America is much easier to ride in.
Remember the Yammie Noob AI voice?
I have a very powerful horn, but my pipes r even louder...and way more fun 🎉😊
I bought some of the best hot-weather riding gear, and I do wear it, and I still produce copious amounts of gooch juice here in Hawaii during all but 2 weeks a year. .
I am 6'5, 230 pounds. I ride a 2006 Ducati Monster and a 2018 Harley Davidson Road Glide Special. Starting on the Duc definitely helped me get onto the bagger but the Duc, although much smaller than the HD, is still super fun riding at my height. So, if you are tall, don't think you are too tall for a bike like the Monster.
Yam I do believe that an exhaust on a bike lets you be more noticeable, also I think it does a better job of letting wildlife on the twisty roads know that I'm coming and to get tf away from the road
fact: the only motorcyclist I have ever heard camped out in my blind spot before I saw it, was a BMW with factory quiet exhaust. Harleys just blend in with my own engine noise.
The only time I support lane splitting is in stopped traffic for an accident. Primary due to excessive clutching and heat from the engine especially in the summer.
A full face helmet obstructs my ability to sip my beverage as I'm riding my touring bike with the cruise control on. ;)
Not only that, but have you ever tried to smoke a cigar with a full face on??? It can't be done!!!
Building 7 didn't fall on its own. It was "pulled." Just ask the owner, Larry Silverstein. He's video'd saying they had to "pull it."
Nice footage of Thailand. Fun fact in Thailand motos will drive on the side walk and will even use the cross walk light for pedestrians. I remember constantly listening for motos. Thailand also has some of the coolest bikes. I even saw a mercedes 300sl getting gas. It's an awesome place for moto and car wth fan
Do you have a video on recommended hot weather gear?
I went to Switzerland last year. Filtering is not permitted and as I understand it, that rule is subject to very strict enforcement.
Guess what though, I never felt the need to filter. Not even in the "heavy" Zürich traffic. It just flows nicely. Besides, the lanes are too narrow to do that anyway.
Same went for speeding. Never really felt the need to do that. Guess I was too busy enjoying the view.
lane filtering is good, but lane splitting relies too much on other drivers being competant, which breaks rule #1 of defensive driving.
My DuelSport layed oil as I was about to slow down for a right. Could only use my front break and she kept sliding out on me. I "layed her down" so I wouldn't go into a car making a left. My bike stopped about 2 feet from the car....... Oil is like ICE and I'd never recommend it... LMFFFAAAOOO
I want to see documentation about that fact at the end there Yam, because Google seems to be flip flopping on me.
Myth #1 is a fact. My previous motorcycle, Honda VTX 1300S(R) has a tank mounted instrument panel. With the full face helmet, I have to look down at the panel to check my speed and mileage. I need the mileage because after 200km, the bike has to refuel. There is no fuel gauge on that bike, so I rely on the mileage.
The rest of the myth are pretty spot on maybe except for the last one about older European bikes from last century. Don't buy those bikes that are manufactured on Monday, Friday and pay day!
Loud pipes might not save lives, but loud pipes are fun so I like em either way
What about a Honda VFR1200X for a capable, upright sport tourer with a little bit of capability for the rougher roads?
full face actually prevents me from seeing the speedo without tilting my head.
as if you have a reason to actually pay attention to your speedo. Put a helmet on.
Stop making excuses for not wearing a helmet
Full face actually also prevents you from having to eat through a tube if you crash.
@@zeepro_tv the reason I know I can't see the speedo on my bike without tilting my head is because i use the full face helmet most of the time.
just saying that there's other directions than just left and right.
not seeing your hands also makes it harder to drive with a broom in one hand and 20 kilos of cat litter on the tank but i digress.
That Lane-Splitting examples you were showing looked chaotic and rude.
I notice a lot of people say they are a short rider at 5' 6 or 7 and ride tall bikes all the time. However any truly short rider would say "I have a 28" inseam". Inseam is all that matters for being able to touch the ground both sides even if it's just ball of your feet. I know people who are 5 9 but have 29" inseam and also some women who are 5 2 but have 31" inseam.
Height doesn't matter.
Agreed there are methods to riding tall bikes for people with a short inseam but at some point with opposite camber and a suprise stop you will eventually drop it. Ride safe all.
hi yammie. i am new to biking and related stuff, wanted to ask if in a city a duke 390 is better or duke 250, considering traffic is heavy and all of that
my BIG problem with a full face helmet is not vision restriction but hearing restriction and no matter how you rationalize it lane splitting is stupid and dangerous. also it causes car drivers to hate us even more. they think we are arrogant and that we think it's all about us.
I once laid my bike down heading into an intersection. I had my (then future) wife on the back. I had entered the left-hand turn lane and was slowing down anyways because the light was already yellow changing to red. But, I hit a patch of oil or transmission fluid left by some cager and, with the brakes fully engaged, continued to slowly slide forward towards the intersection like the concrete was a sheet of ice. I laid the bike down before we got into the intersection so that we didn’t get t-boned by a car legally entering the intersection. I don’t remember if any cars (or trucks!) entered the intersection after I laid it down because I was too busy making sure we were both okay. That was more than 30 years ago, but I stand by my decision to lay the bike down in this case because of the potential for hugely tragic consequences otherwise. So, there's your reason, Yammie.
Goldwings for a building, hmm. Get on it contractors!
the only spot that gets obstructed when i wear my full face vs my skull cap is looking down at my gauges which are mounted on my gas tank on my 09 harley sotail custom, i can look down without moving my head wearing my skull cap whereas with my full face i have to move my head, the other spot is when backing my motorcycle into a spot to park again looking down is whats blocked and i can barely make out my saddle bags let alone where my rear wheel is i have to take an arm off my handle bars to see a lot better, otherwise while riding my vision is fine in a full face, i just prefer my skull cap most of the time because i like feeling the air on my face especially on my beard lol but i will wear my full face when i know its going to rain or when i know im getting on a busy freeway
" I had to lay her down". That's the best. lolz
That bonus myth was the real tip.
Harley rider here, and while I like a lot of your videos, pretty good training ones as well. I don’t think you’re a real rider unless you respect all on two wheels. The idea of flying down the highway head first seems pretty stupid to me safety-wise, but to each their own. Also, I don’t care what you say you are not going long distance anything on a street bike. I can sit back and relax for 800 miles - can you?
Hahah us Harley riders differ in a lot of habits. Some of us are dumb enough to not understand satire.
Harley’s are classics. But it is silly that Harley Davidson sells us unfinished products that we spend thousands making them something it should already be. From this all the satire stems.
The number one cause of motorcycle accidents (per insurance claims) is “single vehicle loss of control”. Be it excessive speed, alcohol/drugs, inexperience, or mechanical issues. You are likely your own worst enemy. Maintain your bike, ride within your limits, and wear your gear…. Let me say that again… WEAR YOUR GEAR!!!
Dear Yammie! We have a legally allowed lane splitting in Russia. What does it look like? Well, 90 percent at a time it lookse like a brother going +20mph over trafic squizing between you and nearby car just because he can. It is not safe, it does not improve road situation, it causes a lot of negativity towards biker crowd in general. My stance is very simple - lane splittin should be illegal universally, while lane flitering, on the other hand, is just great. It helps with exactly issues you mention - less rear ending, better use of road space, etc.
And again my friend, this is coming from a novice but quite grown up moto enthusiast, who is also a 20 years auto enthusiast. Legal lane splitting promotes terrible and unsafe behavior from those moto bros who are waaay less responsible then you (and me, and other who respect safety above everything else while driving). And there are plenty of those moto bros, trust me. I would vote no lane splitting hands down - and I am biker myself.
Who is that poor guy they kept launching into the wall? Get that man hazard pay
Full face deff is bit more obstruction than no helmet bit its not bad. I can see me out my sides without it not turning head and also see better down but its fine.
i like how they included that donut media guy
4:46 don't disrespect my guy freiburger like that lmao
forgetting the science and talking about practicality some full face helmets do obstruct a part of vision that may or may not be used while riding.
might be due to poor design but it does happen
I've had a 60 mph dirt nap, had about half gear on, no actual riding pants or boots. Im my case, wouldn't have mattered but you should. No rash, i went in the dirt. Broke 8 ribs and a couple nasty contusions. Full face helmet that definitely hit the ground, didn't even have a sore neck after. Torso on the other hand 🤬
Please use filtering instead of splitting. Not sure of other countries, but Australia defines filtering as travelling between lanes in slow moving traffic, and splitting as doing it in traffic doing 30km+. Filtering is generally ok but splitting isn't.
In Asia we lane split and many people here want to be in the fastest lane so they attempt to cross over, so be in a low gear at the right speed and ready with your brakes; stationary traffic safer than moving off traffic; some guys frighten me with the speeds to go down moving traffic!
MSF: lane splitting does not reduce accidents or increase safety. In fact, you are more likly to have an accident where you are found at fault. Why it is illegal in 49 of 50 states.
All I know is, when filtering thru stopped or slow traffic, the pops and bangs make most cars part like the Red Sea.
Loud pipes really save lives.
Here's an interesting fact.
It's safer to ride a motorcycle anywhere in SE Asia, than it is in New Zealand. You may think that crazy, but it's true. Over 50 years under my belt, with more to come. Ps, fully agree with all your points. 😁😜👍🇳🇿
Lane splitting. Given the chance I’ll do it 100% of the time. However, the argument that you should get really close to people who are visibly distracted is less than optimal.
Engines do not 'require backpressure' this has been disproven countless times over decades
You ever do a giveaway of a trike?? ❤❤
Nothing to add, but it was funny to see lane splitting in Germany, because it is almost absolutely illegal here, even when you are stuck in a traffic jam on the Autobahn midsommer. 🤔
I'm sorry, but I will firmly defend the fact that loud pipes save lives.
I ride a BMW S1000XR and also a very loud 2007 Electra Glide Classic with Rinehart racing exhaust system, and the difference between how I'm treated on the 2 different motorcycles shocked me. My exhaust might anger some ppl, but my life is worth more than a little minor anoyment on their part.
At least you didn't try to use the myth that the exhaust would have to face forward to work (sound is omnidirectional, and it bounces off everything).
Unless you've ridden both a Harley and a quiet bike for many, many thousands of miles, you're not qualified to comment.
Worry less about how you are being “treated” and take responsibility for your riding.
Loud pipes are absolutely unnecessary. By everyone’s logic, I should have died a million times over for having a bike that sounds like a sewing machine but here I am.
@@markboucher5776 spoken like a true Karen.
@@HawgRiderBC Aww you got me, boss!
Thanks for making my point.
I stand by my observations that when I'm riding my BMW, I get cut off 3 or 4 times as much as when I ride my Harley. Since the rider and location is the same, and the only difference is that one bike is louder, I stand by my observations. Bring on all the Harley haters. You squids are the ones giving us nice speed limit riding HD owners the bad reputation, not us. My loud pipes aren't endangering anyone's life, riding at 180+ mph and splitting lanes are the ones making us look bad.
@markboucher5776 You're obviously uneducated since you don't even get the lack of logic in your argument. Take a statistics course and maybe one on logic and probability.
Safety gear is nowhere near as cool as shorts and a singlet. Simple fact known by millions of bike riders in the tropics....
I'm guilty of the supercorsa sin. I ride "athletically" on the street sometimes, but I know it's not athletically enough to need a $550 set of rubbers.
SOMETIMES laying her down may actually be better….
I’ve had a bicycle accident three weeks ago where (for still unexplainable reasons) my front wheel just decided that being two feet to the right was way better than going straight
I was coming up on a light post and remember yanking my handlebar to the right to fall to my side faster so that I would slide across the road instead of kissing the light pole
And yes.. time slows down in those moments
It still feels like I was tipping over for a solid 3 seconds when it couldn’t have been more than half a sec….
What was the quote…lane filtering should be legal, lane splitting there’s no excuse?
Let’s be honest tho, nothing quite as free as hitting triple digits in a T-shirt and shorts on a nice summer day
Hey yammie .😊 agree with all your myth busters except for one. 😮😮😮
Short riders myth....
Short riders and leaning the bike at junctions etc. If a rider can't touch the ground with both feet then it's inherently "unsafe". Cambers in the road surface when stopping will catch you out....🤔 ...seen it a few times with short folks getting bikes that are simply too big for them. Inevitable they'll drop it sooner or later.
Ive been biking since 17, now 55. Had a few minor tumbles nothing serious tf. Current ride is zzr1200 coolest bike of all 😂😂😂
Love the channel ❤