More Baby Horse Imprinting Gone Wrong - Foals & Moms Bonding Should Trump Human Wants
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- čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
- #thinklikeahorse #ItIsNeverTheHorsesFault This video shows a poor baby horse not knowing how to bond or be with mom in the open, because stupid humans want to IMPRINT the baby by locking it up in a barn and hand feeding it apple juice.
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To all you folks watching this video, don't despair. Rick has 109,000 subscribers and if only half believe he is right, that's 50,000 viewers who will understand and spread the word to stop this stupidity. Before too long, Rick will have enlightened a whole lot more. Love your horses, but overall, understand them and let them be what they are. Thank you Rick for all you do for the most magnificent creatures.
Hugh Martell unfortunately a lie will travel round the world before the truth has even got its pants on. I hope that we can spread the message of horsemanship and horses can be horses instead of robots.
I feel desperately sorry for the mare, trying to do the best she can for her foal. Stupid people getting too involved where they shouldn't, destroying the bond between mother and baby.
The more understanding of the horse and the owners, it's getting harder and harder to watch..... bless their horsey hearts 🐻🐴🐎
"A bad horse is never born,they are made by stupid humans."
~Rick
I agrees with you i also feel that when it comes Bully dog breeds to
It gives ME anxiety seeing the foal not follow and hug up to its mother. I can’t imagine how the poor mare feels.
Poor mama, she must’ve been so stressed
It's so weird to see a foal not follow it's mom around.
I can just imagine the stressed winneys this mom is giving
lilkittyanime I was thinking the same thing, she's gotta be screaming for her baby... watching this poor mom try an try made me feel so hopeless for her, because you know they're not learning anything by watching her do this.. They're probably like "oh look how good WE did! I can't wait till next season when we can breed her again and I really can't wait to lock her up! horses are stupid so what would they ever do without us!?" it's so sad but so many horses are doomed because of people like this that don't get it...
Oh this was SO hard to watch...!!! I cannot wrap my head around the selfishness and stupidity you'd have to have to have a baby LOCKED INSIDE for four days and feeding it freaking apple sauce?!? It's Mama is the only thing it needs. I wasn't familiar with imprinting until recently and another idiot shortcut to ruin horses in the equine world.
Heres a true story~ I worked for an equestrian college for girls in Ohio. I took care of the horses. They had broodmares to teach the students (most of the girls were spoiled and well off) about horse breeding. One mare was more protective of her foals than the others and the barn managers believed this to be bad as the mare was just "mean". They called a bunch of students to watch her as she delivered her foal and then within hours of the birth people were filing into the stall and making her uncomfortable. When she became agitated they called her mean. They divided the stall (can't remember how) to separate the two so the foal could nurse but not stand next to his mother. They forced the separation and obviously the mare became agitated. She was loudly repremanded. It made me sick. They intruded upon all of the mare/foal bonding like this. It seemed stupid and cruel and was being done by people who thought they were "horsemen" but were really just wannabe's.
Somebody should ask them how they would feel if when they had their baby the baby was allowed to nurse but they couldn’t hold the baby or touch the baby at all. People are so damn stupid. And to have that been taught at a school is just insane.
I hate spoiled wannabe horse trainers like that! I’ve had to many experiences like that, especially in “Celtic Cross Equestrian Center.” It’s a place Norman and such a damn stupid place, a complete joke!
Just terrible!!!! 😡
Beautiful mare! I hate breeders, this is the reason why. I MUCH prefer when a mama can have her baby to herself... SHE'S the one that carried it for 11 months. That's like some guy man-handling your baby right after you have it and not letting you have it back, except to feed it.
I'm surprised baby doesn't have a blanket wrapped tight on its back.
Barb Love... me either and a halter, ahhh makes me so mad 😡
The amount of facepalms I gave myself might have resulted in a black eye. Lol.
Poor baby. And poor Mom! Just let nature do what nature does best! 🤬
Why can’t humans do more observing and less interfering?
Tina Eighton Because humans are stupid and want to always get their noses into the animals business
Extremely frustrating, especially when in the later years the idiot humans are crying wondering why their horse is so out of control and dangerous. Horses NEED to be horses from the start. Best teacher for a horse, is it's mother.
Everything you said was totally necessary. No words were excessive. Why do humans think we are smarter than nature 😢
I will never get why people insist on doing stuff like this. Mares have been raising their babies just fine on their own for tens of thousands of years. Why the hell would they need our help now? Just let horses be horses.
Yes, correct. Pay attention people and heed Lisa's advice.
For those of us that can rub two brain cells together, sorry Rick, imagine giving birth and not being able to see and nurse your newborn for four days.
Peter K I'd go crazy XD
I'd probably cry 24/7
This imprinting will cause the foal mental damage. The foal will depend on the human to much, then be sold and won't have the attention, and the baby won't know how to act around other horses. It will become resentful and then of course end up abused by humans. A sad situation right here.
Apple juice! APPLE JUICE!! That’s for human babies! Little horses need the mother milk (mare) to get strong and normal!
I just don't understand why people can't just leave foals alone until they're weaned.... I remember getting in trouble by my mom for trying to go mess with foals... so it's pretty much been drilled into my head even though back then I didn't know why, etc.
And like someone else mentioned, if the foal needs a vet, then I understand but otherwise leave them alone!!!
Yeah. Like Clinton Anderson.. I agree with a lot of his training methods and how he deals with horses. He’s pretty smart and understands herd dynamics. But one thing he does that makes me super mad is messing with foals. “Touch and Rub,” “Turn And Go,” essentially he’s imprinting the foals and teaching them training exercises they shouldn’t be learning yet. Save that extra stuff for later; let baby bond with Mom and learn to be a horse.
Keep up your informative reviews, this is the only way to improve mistakes and stop harm to these beautiful horses
That poor baby!! Only 4 days old and it just now gets to go outside... SICK!
This mom tried her best... So sad...
They should be put in the pasture, grazing, baby running around kicking and pouncing, she should be nursing, nuzzling mom. It should be a graceful, calm, and loving process... yet they make it stressful, confusing, and just sad. Some people should not have animals. Momma horses have been doing this way longer than we’ve “tamed” horses. They know wtf they’re doing. Just sad to watch.
Just by the way this guy is holding the foal, and having a halter on the mare as well? It explains everything just by looking at that.
Apple juice to a newborn? Absolutely brilliant (sarcasm).
I have never seen a foal act that way. Those people must have spent a large amount of time with it away from Mom. What the F* is wrong with these people?😡
It happens all too often.
Then couple years later have an out of control horse and wonder why it's so difficult. 😑 The equine world is filled with idiots putting self emotions onto animals and expecting a human response.
Mare knows best how to raise baby. Horses have been doing it for 1,000s of years. Plus, why are they feeding it Apple juice?! Baby needs mom's milk for the protein, fats, & antibodies essential for it's health & development. Also I'd imagine baby would develop gastrointestinal problems. This is dreadful. Anyone who does this to a foal should be arrested & fined for assholism!
If big name trainers are teaching this crap.... I am concerned for the next generation of horses that come through. Sad video. Poor baby was so confused.
Well you SHOULD put the link and YES! those assholes do need people to call them out on their shit and you are preventing that from happening and by doing so you are actually FAVORING these dumbasses who deserved to be put in their place!!!!! so SHARE THE LINK!
What kind of frigging idiot thinks apple juice is an appropriate food for a newborn foal? It's not even appropriate for baby humans, FFS! And I'm 110% certain that it was store-bought pasteurized apple juice for humans, too. Un-freaking-believable!
Poor baby. I hope his mama is able to overcome their owners' stupidity and they can have a good life together.
I'm surprised mom's tail wasn't braided.
And the halter isn't pink or purple, either! 😜
it was guys talking and doing the handling, but I am sure that has nothing to with it.
I dunno, the halter looks kinda faded pink, lol
For me as a goat keeper, I agree completely that imprinting on this level is super bad. When I have nannies kid, they have their own maternity pens so other nannies can’t interfere/hurt but the kids can all slip out and interact with other goat kids. Maternity pens for me are a necessity because our winters are super brutal. I always make sure to leave nanny and kids alone for at least a few days before I get the kids use to me. Even if I need to help with the kidding, I interfere as little as possible.
Only time I had to full imprint on kids is in the event of rejected or orphaned kids. Even then, I make sure they get proper social time with other goats and kids. Now a pair of twin bottle babies, they have other goat friends and hang out with their maternal grandmother and aunts, even if they’re bonded to me, they can still function as goats. 🐐
I never saw a foal not walking on the site of its mum on a pasture when they are on it for the first time. But I also do not know people who came on the idea to feed a baby horse applesauce ever.
In fact a friend of mine got a really hard lesson from a horse owner when she tried to touch a two days old foal on pasture when we were kids. He was not amused to say it friendly. So we learned never messing with a baby and its mum the first five to seven days of its life.
They do this crap with dogs and cats.I think most people take puppies and kittens away from their mother too early imho
Liadara I agree, I had to rescue a kitten because someone dumped her on the road when she was only 2 weeks old
When we had kittens I would just leave them with their mom till she got sick of them.
I agree, they need to leave all animals alone until the mother thinks it's ready to be independent, cats and dogs are a little different at the same time though. I would say until they don't need to nurse anymore and have good control over motor functions. I. E. Like puppies at 10-12 weeks not 8 or less
If I had a baby and someone took them from me for 3 days I'd be devastated. People don't do this with other animals, why horses? Disgusting. This is so heartbreaking as a woman to watch.
"Rice paper feelings"😂😂😂😂
But seriously this was frustrating and sad to watch. They totally interfered with what should have happened.
So sad to watch, I can feel the Mom’s stress.
Keep preaching it Rick, I hope everyone see this! So sad that this happens all the time.
This is so sad.
I’m having such a hard time getting decent advice on caring for my horse because there are so many dumbasses in the horse world.
I hear you... My thing is cats and people don't know anything about them, or any animal either anymore.
For all her faults my mom at least knew good basics about baby's and how to treat them and she taught all of it to me, it gave me a great start to learn even more later in life. My cats always have unique personalities and people don't understand why? Its because I know how to let them be cats!
Love this guy.. straight to the point and so very right...
Yea hes a cool dude. A total a-hole. But also a great guy who loves animals and is a huge inspiration to me. Im stuck working in an abusive sport and he shows me its possible to make a difference. (i work in dog sled racing)
@@macthompson9750 didn’t even know that’s a thing
Straight up truth. No sugar coating.
Watched a series from Parelli about imprinting in a passive way. Mare gave birth in the field just as she should. He spent quality time with the mare after the birth of the foal in the field to indirectly teach the foal that the human was trustworthy. I think that was an ok way to be involved.
What makes me sadder is I realized this video was from 2012. So this poor mare has probably had to do this with every foal she's had for another 5 years after this one. After the already 3 she's had to do it with. That baby should've been sticking to her side like glue, especially in a strange environment, and strange horses. Sad.
Also can't wait to see that Buddy and Mr. T vid, Rick!
If you want to make friends with the babies and earn their trust, ripping them away from their mother is not the way to do it. Make friends with them in pasture without separating them from mom. If the mare trusts you she'll probably introduce you to her baby when she's ready to start interacting with the herd again. People are so fucking dumb. All they're doing is terrifying both mom and the baby.
Best friendliest foals I've met were born in a paddock, raised in a paddock and all the human interaction it got, came through the mother first. If mum didn't want us seeing bub, we didn't. If bub didn't want to see us, then they'd use mum as a barrier. Now I'm not going to say we ignored the foals because we absolutely wanted them to trust us... But babies bond with mother was always the priority, and if we chased the foal around its Mum, either mum would get pissed at us, or baby would stop seeing mum as safety. While we'd offer hands for bub to sniff and use language that invited approach, if baby didn't want to interact we never forced it.
Every foal on that property doesn't need to be caught. They come to people willingly. They follow without the need for rope and halters. The foals grow up to be friendly but respectful horses who know how to be a horse, and know how to interact with people.
I never understood why people felt the need to start interfering at such an early stage, when we have wild mustangs as evidence that even adult horses can become friendly and connected with people.
Mare: Darn humans broke my foal! Now I gotta fix it!
This is just SAD. A young young baby usually sticks right beside the mum at all times.. this is so sad
You never ever take a colt from its mother. NEVER! One of mine had her colt out in the field , it was her first . But she did just fine I didn't interfere at all.What could I do she couldn't , nothing. She was wonderful. They know what their doing . Yes there are some who are bad mothers but that's due I believe because of people like this.
This is whole story is sad. Poor mama, just trying to do the right thing.
Poor mother horse so sad...it’s pure selfishness on the human part!!! It almost endangers the foal!!
Did you see all the other babies in the background? Seems like this is a baby farm? It's so clear by the mom she was literally screaming follow me. Anyone who can read body language can see that. (Thank you Rick for your previous videos about body language) The baby still seems confused as to whom to go to. I'm not perfect, I have only been around 2 babies, but I know that any animal (dogs included) needs to imprint on their mom first. You don't see a monkey steal a human baby from it's mom..... oh wait you might, but we would put it down for being an aggressive animal wouldn't we. Good video Rick!
our latest foal was born 2 days earlier so we missed the birth. The mother did everything, even within the herd (she's the lead mare). Next day no horse could approch them but she saw us and came to present the foal. We brought them inside and I pressed record when I got in the stall to see her reaction. She was happy to let me touch and play with him without any problems. The foal is the nicest foal to date. He gives in to pressure, he gives his feet and could be lead in halter as soon as 1month old ! No human imprinting and NO PROBLEMS
Baby factory, have a baby just to get it ripped away from you? Bad bad bad not cool at all!!!
Mama mare can teach that baby far better than any human!!
Of course.
I feel so sorry for them horses too! That is so unfair to the mama that is trying to teach this foal lessons! I hope this person sees your channel and learn something!
I'm thankful that I was taught from childhood that when my mare was due to foal, I was not to look after the foal! In saying that, I was taught my responsibilities were to the mare, & mare was responsible for the foal.
Unless a medical emergency occurred, I was not allowed to interact with the foal until my mare allowed it.
Took me a bit to get it, but I did...made things a heap load easier for me as well. It's not hard to do.
Simple, if I focus on taking the same good care of the mare as I'd always done, she'll take care of the foal.
Nature did things perfectly, for millions of years until humans came along. God what a mess some of us make of things. I ponder at how this will effect horses in a 100 generations. I can envision future horses not knowing how to be horses. I agree with you. People are taking the horse out of horses however, nature has ways of fighting back.
So sad at the beginning, poor mare, poor foal. It`s a sin.
So sad to see this.Don`t understand how these breeders can think this is ok. Mum`s the only one who can teach that baby what he needs. Arogant, selfish idiots, ,,as for leaving a halter on, surely even the walmart school of horsemanship teaches you not to do that!!!
I never owned, took care of, or trained a a horse. I grew up in the big city. But I thought horses were caught with ropes, if they were too contrary to leave the pasture and come up to the owner on command. Rick has pointed out so many common sense reasons to NOT keep a halter on a horse, I can't understand why other owners do this. The example in this video of the mom wanting to nuzzle her baby, and the human-smelling halter getting in the way, is heart-breaking. Heck the whole video is heart-breaking. I wish the people who were doing this "imprinting" crap to this mom and baby would see this video and feel embarrassed enough to leave these two horses alone. You're fighting the good fight, Rick. Horses have a great champion in you.
agwbcfjc2 ... yes! Same thing from this city girl, wanna be a country girl. I've learned so much from Rick's videos. He's amazing. Such common sense. Sad we have to be taught common sense.
ah the birth of another "pocket pony" that grows up to walk all over people that think it's cute
Ima Peepinen --or ruined for life, this reminds me of the video Rick did of the ‘Buck’ movie with the female with 18 stallions and Buck tells her ‘You’ve made a prey animal into a predator’......
Since when did humans give birth to foals?
Rick I love the way your telling this. Your right on soooo many levels. These people think they know horses because, why, they own some, please. This is just so wrong. Keep up the great work. And thank you.
Poor Momma can't get her babies attention, much less nuzzle her foal. It just looks uncomfortable. What's the point of apple juice? They are "foal nappers!" I just don't understand people? How can they not know how cruel that is? How selfish?
Apple juice? Stupid humans! Foals, as all babies, needs its mother's colostrum-rich milk with antibodies. to protect the foal from disease. No, Rick, I'm not calling you stupid. I'm agreeing with you.
Sad. People need to stop this crap!
This is a sad contrast to Rick's videos of mares and babies in pasture.
They do this kind a crap to every animal.
Rick, I watch your videos constantly. Now, I openly admit that I have never had a 🏇 and am not even a amutuer 🏇 person. Yet, I feel compelled to comment on this video. First off, I have a question for you. Is apple juice healthy for a foal? All of my common sense says: "Heck no!!!" My comment is that this foal seems utterly confused. It doesn't know what to do!! Now, If I can see this shouldn't a 'knowledgeable 🏇 person' see this as well?
Before ending I would like to say that I find your sense of humor/sarcasm hilarious!!!!! I don't know why other women have an issue with you.
Finally, thanks for the lessons!!
Maria Kennison people tend to “imprint” a foal so the foal seeks comfort from the human, not mom. It’s more convenient for the human to disturb nature and have nature cater to them than to work for the baby’s trust and respect. They also fed this foal apple juice because it’s sweet, causing the foal to also believe his only source of food *doesn’t come from Mom. It’s most likely unhealthy at this age because all the baby should be consuming is grass/hay, milk, and water, yet the humans are giving it apple juice.
Apple juice is loaded with sugar and has little nutritional value.
Pediatricians regularly tell human parents NOT to give their babies apple juice because it will rot out their teeth. Not to mention its just not good for them. I can't imagine it being any different for a foal.
sab speaking of paediatricians, I know a person who gives their two yr old child chocolate milk all the time. They have since 6mo. They sent the child to the aunt’s house for babysitting for the first time and got instructions to give only chocolate milk. Of course auntie can’t do that! She is a mother herself and knows it’s wrong. Tried giving white milk; nope. Tried water; nope. Nothing. Child won’t drink anything except chocolate milk. A few months later the child went to the dentist and had 8 teeth removed because they were ROTTEN.
Now, tying this into the video. Can this harm the foal? Yes. Can this cause an addiction? Yes. Rots the teeth, gives a sugar rush, causes the baby to “need” the flavour..
I saw this video I think 2 years ago and I found it so disgusting. I'm glad you're finally doing a video on it Rick
I found it cause it came up in my recommendations. I admit at first I thought it was just like the title said, newborn foal, mom making sure he follows after he gets up. Then I was disgusted to hear it had been continually locked up for 4 days, and fed apple juice.
This is heart breaking for so many reasons... I don't know how Rick does it, especially for as long as he has... It's stuff like this that makes me ashamed to be the same species as these insacure applesauce waving idiots lol the enternet and world are bursting at the seems with this kind of stuff, it's rediculous and gives me a very helpless feeling for horses in general as well as people who are doing right by them because they're so far and few between...
That’s the thing, you’re the one of few people from this generation that will be able to teach the younger generation better- if only we could reproduce as fast as most of the idiots is the thing lmao 😂
I've been watching your videos for a long time and I must say how thrilled I am that you showed this. I was a foaling manager at a large racehorse farm (50-75 foals per year) for 10 years so I know some about mares and foals. I used to bring the mare in the stall as her water was breaking (only because many didn't like stalls and they didn't fuss in this stage of the game). I would take the halter off immediately then stand in a corner, be as still as I could, only to watch if there was a problem. Once the baby was out and the sac was broken I would get out of the stall and stay outside the stall quietly watching until the foal was up, nursed, and meconium had passed. They would stay in the stall for the night and the next morning would be put in a small paddock by themselves. Again no halter ever for mare or foal except on mare only when moving. After a day they would be turned out into a large pasture with other mares and new foals. We never lost a foal this way and the foals would only be handled if something was wrong and halters usually weren't put on until weaning. No horses ever had halters kept on, something I really had to fight for because the daily workers liked them on because it was easier for them. I've never heard of anyone giving apple juice to a foal and this seems not only stupid but dangerous. Even if we lost a mare we would get the foals off bottle feeding as fast as we could. The learned fast to drink out of a bucket. I am so glad that you have shown this video so people can see how they are harming foals...so thank you for sharing this!
debra turnbull Thanks for sharing your experience.
I have 2 new babies coming in March.. QH race babies.. Been a while.. wish I had you next door!
Thank you, I was trying to figure out the proper way to do this
People do such stupid things
Let Mother Nature do her thing horse are quiet capable of caring for their baby
You are so right that foal could be injured
People are stupid! Poor Mom and baby...
It makes me so mad when people rob a baby of milk. Yes I know he can still nurse but if his belly is always getting filled up with apple juice he isn't going to be nursing much. He needs milk and nothing else; it is so crucial to his growth and development of a healthy immune system. Instead they are filling him up with sugary, nutritionally void junk.
Its also really very sad to see a special bond between mom and baby ruined.
Damn it, leave the baby alone, let the mare and foal bond. It should have foaled in a clean pasture. This makes me sick. Take the damn halter off. This is a horrible and sad video. Imprinting is stupid, its natural instincts are gone.
I know what's going to happen, the foal won't listen to the mom properly and won't learn how to behave, then the horse will be dominant and the stupid human will say: "oh! That horse is dangerous! He needs to be put down or send to slaughter." Or something. Ugh, I've seen it happen before and I hate it! -_- (sorry for bad English)
What happened to the natural order, natural chain, how long has horses survived without humans? Let nature be nature and stop confusing animals, abusing animals. Do doctors not say even in humans that the very first days, months is the most important part for a baby to be able to bond with the mother, doctors also say how destructive it is for the baby not getting the bonding process. The stupid human should have gone completely away. Yes it should be with mom. Stupid people piss me off. Mom is doing great, man it's a shame you can't fix stupid. You go mom.
Sugar is bad for horses, ESPECIALLY manufactured sugar. Not to mention that it's not its natural food :/
Poor mom and baby. People need to stop screwing with things they shouldn't. Poor horses
Hey ! Trainer ,,,, leave us Foals alone,,,,
Why, just why? What is the supposed reason why people separate a mamma and baby horse??? We don't do this to kittens, puppies, so why is this a thing with horses? I don't have a horse so maybe I just don't understand but it seems so wrong.
To be honest I know people who do this to kittens& puppies as well. They want something small and cute to depend on them, while the animals are paying the price. Just pure IGNORANCE!
Yeah, and not really just that. The horse world has a lot of normalised idiocy in it. There’s this idea that you’ve got to imprint on foals, it’s not true. It’s just an unspoken thing the equestrian community has.
So basically the mamma horse feeds and cares for the baby some don't but most do so when there like 5 to 6 months they get what is called weaned off there mamma so they don't get too attached because if they do ever get sold separately then the horse will feel depressed,scared but like me I have a 1 year old gelding was so friendly when I got him at 6 months he had just been weaned he got the care he needed from his mumma and was a happy baby some people take baby's off of mammas in the most horrible way ever and it's awful but most foals get the best life there treated so kindly and personally I think humans shouldn't interfere with the mamma and foal until there like 1 month because how do you think they survive in the wild horses know what there doing but touching and doing stuff with the baby when it's just born is wrong because the mamma is gonna be stressed with different cent and it will stress the mamma out and that causes them to leave them but my foal and many other foals were done properly and are gonna make great horses with the right owners but personally every single horse on this planet is amazing in there own ways no horse should be treated so horribly like if your against horse abuse and torcher it's awful and cruel and I wouldn't wish it upon any animal it horrible thank you for reading I hope one day the people on this world will grow up and start acting responsible thank you if you read the whole thing 💙
Ever adopted a puppy? We do the same with dogs and kittens. We separate them early on, it's disgusting.
uwu bebs but NOT too young. A dog puppy needs to be at least 3months old. So he can learn dog language and social skills. Dogs who are taken too early, become aggressive to other dogs. And often have other mental health issues and aggression problems too
I mean how would human moms feel if they did not get their time with their baby, or if a strange person that had nothing to do with the baby tried to make the baby like this random person better than the mother? If someone rubbed their baby with plastic bags and did all these other weird shit. The human mom (just like the horse) would be stressed out, and the human moms would probably be furious as they understand wth is going on.
But nvm because they are "just" horses and apparently they should not be allowed to have a good bond with their baby or the baby have a good bond with it's mother...because all animals (including humans) turn out so damn well when they do not have a good relationship with their mom.
Maze I don't know much about horses and I don't have any, but I am curious how this unnatural practice would ruin the baby? Also, if this was the mothers first baby and not the third, would she still know what to do by instinct? Especially if she was imprinted when born?
Maze, that level of interference was standard human obstetric practice for most of the XX century.
Sh*t----------the stupid humans do not want the horse bonding with the mare. They want the foal bonding with them. Selfish, abusive sacks of sh*t.
@Think LikeA Horse my uncles mares had a large box stall for delievery only and no one was allowed there except for him and a vet if necessary , they were left alone except for feeding and stall cleaning for 3 days and then the mare had a private pasture for mom and baby so they could bond properly . and the mare was allowed to decide when she and baby went out to the pasture ,my uncle is alot like you lol
So nice to hear..
It's good to know there's still " normal" people in this world....
I saw this one a few months ago and I thought to myself. How would a human mother feel if this was done to her? Mother's don't like others getting in between them and their baby and the shocking thing is that a LOT of women do this 'imprinting' crap - I would have thought females would understand the mothering instinct better than anyone.
It really irritates me.
I love your videos! They have taught me a lot of common sense, and the way they taught this filly is horrible.
Appreciate your straight forward common sense, 👍
This is enough to piss off about anybody. What you're saying is SO OBVIOUSLY TRUE, 🤔
Why would you give a foal apple juice?! Their video was sickening. I don't care if that foal was valued at a million dollars, you couldn't give it to me. Not the foal's fault, idiots fault. They will continue to interfere with learning until the time it is sold. Whoever buys one of their horses will have a damned fool to deal with. Oh, but they have a beautiful barn and look at their videos and how many foals they raise - they must be experts! NOT! Grrrr
That poor mama and baby. The baby needs to bond with it's mother. People are so stupid, and how wrong this is. Poor mama is so frustrated. Shouldn't the baby be drinking it's mother milk. Why would these people give this baby apple juice.
So upsetting!! Wtf is wrong with people?
In my decades of working at many different horse operations, I have noticed there seems to be a correlation to how "fancy" a horse property looks (to humans) and the amount of ignorance involved about horses. The fancier a barn looks alone, should raise tons of red flags, about how well the horses are actually taken care of.
I'm sure there are exceptions, but in my personal observations I have concluded, that the more money that has been spent on appearances, such as box stall barns, arenas, 4 board fencing, manicured lawns, etc. the "nicer" it looks to a human's perspective, often times indicates a massive lack of horse knowledge --- to provide horses with what a horse actually needs, physically and mentally.
And this video shows that fancy barn ignorance --- perfectly!
This mom and foal were both born already knowing how to be horses. They are both paying a heavy price now, due to the ignorance of people.
It is sad to see, how many people are suckered into believing horses have the best care, based solely on the appearance of the horse facility. Someone will likely be suckered into paying thousands of dollars to buy this foal, start riding it at 2 or 3 years old, all the while, when it never had the chance in those first critical days of life to start it's bone formation correctly to begin with, and this foal will end up with chronic lameness issues as a result of all of these things combined.
As Rick says frequently "Critical Thinking" --- Learn it! And use It!
Pissy Pony you should check out The Willing Equine here on CZcams! Look up the video called Barn Tour or Property Tour (one of those lol). Her property is so nice! They spent lots of time making high quality fencing with multiple pastures so if one gets eaten down, then there are still other pastures to go to while that one grows back. She also does clicker training and positive reinforcement. If you’re interested in those, her CZcams and website have lots of information on those.
I can second that. The barn that I ride at has five pastures, some trails, and a round pen. No need for any of that fancy crap. The horses have shelter (though they never use it), food, water, and space to run. They’re happier than any of the horses I’ve seen in high-end barns that are made to live in tiny stalls.
M Chom:
Sounds like something I will enjoy watching, and learning from.
Thank you for sharing about them.
Why did those people interfere with the natural process? What a shame. People are dumb.
Correct.
God damn. I've never seen a foal wanting to be with a human so much. Apple juice can't be good for a baby. I thought in Russia we trained horses in the shity way. What you know, are mama and babies are left alone. It was very frustrating as a child wanting to pet a kid baby and trainers always saying leave them alone. In fact every single horse stalls we have for the most part have nice big pastures where horses go during the day. They are stalled a away nights though. In the place where I live gone to they lock them up with the sundown what always released at 4 in the morning. But babies are not mess with and certainly not put a stupid halter on. Sad to know but mama's did have their on
I get everything you are saying i dont know a lot about horses but you are 100% so right, humans are really stupid.
My mare just last month had her first foal, it was unexpected and two months early(our estimation was wrong) and we don't have any stalls so she and baby have been in a large area near an open shed near the house. We didn't interfere with mom or baby. They have been left alone with our gelding and dad has been separated due to mom coming into season, which we never thought would happen, hence the foal being unexpected(in the beginning). Mom is very good and foal follows and plays away from mom, but she calls and he comes running. Been trying to get him used to us but he is a stubborn little cutie and so fluffy. takes after his friesian dad. With all our previous foal years ago, we never enclosed mom and baby in our once stable unless it was necessary. We are only now really trying to bond with him, it is a bit harder to do with mom being near blind in 1 eye from being kicked as she does get antsy when she can't see him. it will take some time, so i am confident it will happen in the next couple of months.
This was real eye opener. Glad I watched it, especially since I have a mare about to foal and was planning on imprinting. Good video.
just enjoy the baby it will come to you out of curiosity then blow softly at its nose it will smell you :)
Only good thing I see out of this is that the mother has had to do this two other times because of stupid humans, so she didn’t give up. Breaks my heart. People do this with puppies too. “Ooh! Newborns! Let’s pick up and desensitize it and love on it so it loves humans!” NO! Let the mamas be mamas. Stay out of it! Grr!
Even then, some mama dogs will get aggressive with humans if they touch their puppies.
and mama cats, too.
Just horrible. LET HORSE BE MORE NATURAL!!!
I understand how frustrated you. I’ve been learning my skills from you and a person who is just like you who lives in my area and even before I knew all the things I do now I would’ve known how detrimental it is like you can’t take that bond away. It’s the same with humans except a human would’ve been taken buy a human. I don’t know rick it seems it’s hopeless for a lot of humans but at least we’ve got people like you
Rick I will SHARE this every place I can. A very important lesson to anyone having a foal. Don't ruin it let momma teach it. You're not a horse so you can't teach it. Marvelous video that needs to be seen and understood by all. Thank you Rick for the TRUTH to how HUMANS ruin babies
Kimberley Gager share the love of Jesus Christ first help save people souls !
leave nature alone! I think animals know how to take care of their. own, doing it for thousands of years...
Wouldn't this stupid treatment also lessen a colts herd instincts?