Aggressive Horse Goes After Owner!
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- čas přidán 13. 08. 2023
- In this video I help a horse that has been going after people.
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You're pretty good, congratulations on Clinton Anderson method, I never could quite get it, my technique is a little different, save as many as you can
Thank you. Learning so much.
Ya right .
I really feel sorry for the poor horse.
You don’t need tools. They just make things faster so you can avoid truly connecting with the animals.
I had an Arabian mare sent to me for training that showed aggression in the round pen and after we had the vet palpate her we found out she had a large cyst on her ovary and needed surgery. After the surgery she was a different horse to train.
I bought a mustang gelding years ago. He had been in the Extreme Makeover but had a year off. He was great handling and riding, but he did not like to be caught in the pasture. One day I went to get him and he trotted off. The other horses ignored him. He tried to come back to the herd, but I wouldn't let him. Finally he got pissed and charged me. Well, I was mad too, so I ran straight at him yelling and waving the halter. He stopped, looked at me like I was crazy, and let me catch him. He never charged anybody again, but he still likes to play catch-me games!
😂I was picturing that in my head in vivid detail lol. I got a mare last year that needed a little work. She kept yanking the lunge line from my hands so I decided to work with her in the round pen with no rope. She charged at me once and unfortunately, it scared the piss outta me! I ran to the fence like an idiot-essentially rewarding her. Ever since that day, I’ve had this bit of nervousness with her. 😢
@@krystaldaniels7940if you don't have a Lunge whip or flag-stick, grab a broom or a rake to carry with you just in case they charge you. Don't hit them, just wave it around like you mean it and they'll behave.
I see far too many people doing everything nicey nicey and then they get run over or hurt some other way and they don't understand why. Any horse will be cooperative as long as you're doing something that THEY want to do. As a farrier I see horses act very badly with me and the owners say they never act that way. Then I ask them if they ever ask their horse to do anything. Usually the answer is no. The horse sits in a field and gets treats. Then I come along and dare to ask them to pick up a foot? Uh-huh...I just "ruined" their day. 🙄
Fair point
If only every kid had a parent with these skills.
society would be in incredible shape, it will be that way one day :)
What a beautiful mare. Thank you both so very much for giving this horse a second chance.
Anyone who watches and thinks you’re mean is a straight up moron. You have such kindness, patience and a gentle demeanor. It’s obvious you do what you do because you love horses. I’m 54, have been around horses much of my life. Being 54 means I’ve seen horses injured by old school “training”. Hobbling, running them to death, tied up short in a stall for days - absolute heart breaking cruelty. What you do helps people and horses. A gentle, well trained horse isn’t passed around. Get a clue, people.
Anyone watching thinking he's mean has never met a trainer that truly is mean. I've seen a bunch. Watched a man go after a horse for something HE did and put the horse in peril. Horse took off in a crowd of people with kids in strollers. I caught the poor animal at the playground where we just chilled out until he got calm and blew out realizing I was a safe bet. At liberty once he calmed and cooled down he followed me and my son back to the trailer where the idiot proceeded to curse out the horse until he saw my very young son and shut his mouth. Told me the good for nothing horse wouldn't trailer and had backed into him. I asked what the hell he was doing behind him and then proceeded to ask the horse to load. Horse loaded fine. Idiot stood dumbfounded. I smiled and said, "it's all in the human learning". Got the horse secure then patted him and left. Idiot stood there catching flies. My son STILL tells people that I rescued a wild horse! LOL.
I’ve worked with an equine vet and seen unspeakable cruelty to horses. I’ve seen it at barns with PBR ropers and “old school cowboys” and Mexican vaqueros. Ryan is not even close to “cruel.” He’s the total opposite. Sometimes over sensitive, uneducated people get offended by things they know nothing about and think they have solutions. There are times when a horse needs help for his own safety and future and a lot of people can’t see the big picture.
@@Cwgrlup yeah, I'm no expert on horses, but the same debates take place in the dog world. People who are helping dogs that no one else knew how to help get hated for the smallest amount of sternness by those who are afraid even to use the word 'no.'
Great video, anytime a 1200lb animal thinks they are in charge things get dangerous quickly, thanks for not sugarcoating things
Outstanding horse training, got to love saving a horse that would otherwise be put down.
Very rewarding work
More like...sold at auction to be slaughtered in Mexico or Canada and then eaten by some god-forsaken Europeans or Asians.
Nice! Dickhead Yeah mankind abuses & puts animals down. Assholes . I'll choose any animal over man any time.
@@bareSnarewhat do you mean
Ryan, I believe that anyone that critizes your approach with horses is a "do gooder" with zero experience with horses. What you do works...and the people and horses you help have all gained a tremendous step forward in their understanding of how to read a horse and how to approach their individual problems. There are a lot of misunderstood and abused horses out there, too. I, for one, thank you for what you do!
Leider denken sogar viele Pferdebesitzer so... es ist so wichtig, dass wir alle die Psyche des PFERDES richtig verstehen,
und nicht immer von uns aus gehen.
Ich bin wirklich ein "softiger" Mensch und mag wie so viele andere gerne "lieb" zu Pferden sein.
An Ryans Art finde selbst ich nichts, was grob ist. Danke für deine guten Erklärungen zu allem Ryan,
ich wünschte, deine Videos würden jene Leute in meiner Umgebung in Deutschland anschauen.
Hier ist tatsächlich immer noch zu wenig "good horsemanship" eingetroffen
There is plenty of learned behaviors from ineffective owners that leave the horse in peril. Happy to see a young man with good sense and timing.
Yes, I agree
Agreed been doing his program on patron for about 3 months, and I am amazed at the progress I have made with him. And finely understanding horse psychology better then I have in hundred of hours of in person lessons. And thousands of dollars later.
Thanks for your help Ryan.
He uses a lot of great techniques, but he got defensive about criticism when he was popping that horse in the face with the brass bolt/swivel snap because he knows it hurts the horse. There’s a video online somewhere of parelli’s wife hitting a horse hard in the face like that, definitely in an abusive fashion where the animal is obviously confused and in pain. I would think using a pain-inducing technique like that when just asking for a backup would make the horse more likely to attack a handler, not less. It’s obviously a way to punish or dominate a horse. I wonder if he uses that technique with feral horses or stallions. I’m not saying there’s never a need to hit a horse, I’ve been bit and charged and I use a hefty 4ft long piece of oak to help gentle feral horses, I wrap it in old jean legs like a sleeve and pull an old glove onto the end of it for touching all over initially. A stick like that is also handy for getting a horse to follow a lead rope at a safe distance from the person holding it. I respect Ryan Rose’s work but there are other really good trainers that I follow or emulate; Monty Roberts is one of the original mass-marketing clinicians with great techniques. Craig Cameron might be the sage right now. Chris Cox is amazing. Warwick Schiller! No one is perfect but the best seem to have a lot of “heart”
The stomping of feet and shoulder or withers muscles constantly twitching can also be an indication of chronic pain. A chiropractor may help..
I agree completely! It would probably help her a lot
I think she’s doing that because of bugs.. looks like it’s pretty warm and buggy. She keeps swishing her tail and nipping at her side.
Nah, 100% flies. You can even see them flying off her shoulder at one point after she twitches. She also lifts her hind leg to remove from her belly. No sign of pain in this horse.
I think she said that this mare was with a vet for a month before coming to her so I’d assume she was already thoroughly checked for any medical issues
I love that..."I'm the big bad cowboy being mean, wiggling my rope at her"😂. People NEED TO HEAR the consequences of being "nice" to a 1000lb horse can include the end of their life due to being dangerous😞. Thank you for that. I am 61 and although I've round penned and trained horses from the ground up including, barrel horses, for over 30 years; I still can learn new and better ways to do it. Thank you for that as well. I spent a lot of time retraining horses who had people problems. 🙄
Interesting video. Wanted to watch the whole video but the man'splaining was sooo interrupting. He spoke every second NH
Isn't he a fantastic trainer/teacher/behavioralist? Love this man's great insight and attitude of kindness with firm, direct intentions for the betterment of horse and rider.....so important
@@Ap-jx4tethe “man splaining” is the reason this little mare won’t go down the slaughter pipeline. If you knew anything about horses and the horse industry, you’d appreciate the importance of the information Ryan is sharing. You are probably one of those people who would ruin a 1300 pound horse and it would end up in the kill pen because you were too ignorant to learn.
@@Cwgrlup Ap-jx4te was _wilfully_ ignorant - regular ignorance is just not knowing something, but still being willing to learn. Wilful ignorance is when they refuse to learn. This was a case of refusing to learn, not just not knowing something. The distinction between wilful and non-wilful is important, because those who aren't being wilful about it require a different approach than those who are wilful if you want anything even resembling positive results.
@@Ap-jx4teBye 👋
I think it doesn't matter if it's a new horse or not, it's still an animal that needs to know who is the leader. Anyone who said he was mean, he was not he spoke in a clear but soft voice there was no screaming at the horse or anything like that, he just went in and took his space and showed the horse what was right and wrong. Nice job sir.
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I agree he's doing good ryan😊
I love you letting the horse have a win. People need to be more willing to do what you did at the end where she trotted off and didn't even make a circle before you said "that's good and we're done". Letting the horse have small wins will build a pathway to big wins
Ryan dont even worry about the" you're big bad cowboy"!!! you are a respectable trainer! if they do not respect that they need to watch some others, oh my!
Only half cowboy😂where are his western boots 😅
@@loriwarmuth2539lmao, boots/ clothes DO NOT make anyone a cowboy or Cowgirl.
@jonavantour9856 you mean clothes,????? ,, not cloths
@@allisonconley6339 lol, thanks I fixed it, just a silly typo.
@jonavantour9856 who cares if he's a cowboy or not this is about the horse.
I first saw this "claiming space" technique from a European trainer and it makes so much sense! Ive been doing this with my dog as well.
I couldn’t help but cry watching this whole video. I feel like I was watching my own mare recently rescued. I spent too much time on the draw. Thank you so much for sharing. The information you freely share is a gift to so many. And huge kudos to the owner for reaching out and being open and vulnerable. As Ryan says it’s more of a journey than a destination.
You are so correct to say you're the last stop. People thinking this is mean or whatever need to stop the romance. Tom Davis is the canine last stop trainer and thank God for both of you. And thank you for your very clear explanations for what you're doing and why.
Genau die beiden mag ich auch sehr gerne. Ryan ist großartig
In Deutschland gibt es gefühlt bisher noch nicht viele echte Pferdemenschen, was das ganze Theme horsemanship
so angeht. Abgeschaut und nachgemacht ja, aber selten so wie Ryan aus dem tiefen Inneren heraus
@@kleineportugiesin9784😊
I call the people who attack this kind of training toxicily "positive"
This was excellent.
So many people don't realize we earn their trust as they earn ours. Assuming every animal is going to instantaneously be pure light and love is assuming they aren't sentient individuals. Assuming they'll always do anything they're asked nicely is assuming they had a great start with humans And they're dumb, with no interests of their own. If I'm eating lunch and the boss runs in, "Emergency!" I get up and follow. If the guy whose always got some problem walks over while I'm eating and says, "hey, can you look at this?" I'm gonna tell him I'll check it right after lunch.
Thanks
About the flies:
Horses react differently to having something (like fly spray) sprayed over their body. Green or mistreated horses need to have gradual introduction to fly spray.
If a horse like this one is aggressive, she’s not going to allow fly spray put on. Over time, especially when she’s more relaxed, she’ll be be much happier with the fly spray.
Knowing when to quit is part of creating a winner. Tnx for teaching folks to give peace as soon as they find the right answer in small things. Horses crave a leader so they can relax.
When i did this on your advise with my young mare it worked wonders. Fantastic, easy and safe training exercise
I wish all horses were trained with you kind firm manor
I can see a very sweet horse, but with very worried eyes. It looks like this horse got bad memories from humans. Maybe it was bad treatment who made this horse not wanting any good relationship with humans? She didn´t looked spoiled, with no respect, she just looked worried. Thank you for helping her, understanding her, working with her in a language she understands. Only then she will be able to trust people again, will not have to fight with them. I wonder how many horses have been put down of the same reason? Just because nobody understood them and the horses couldn´t talk and tell them the reason.Thank you again Ryan for helping this horse and other horses who struggles with wrong relationship to humans. I hope this horse will not be put down. As far as I can see she understood your language very quick, was very quick to do what you wanted her to do. It didn´t take much time before she cooperated. Best regards from Norway.
"Who is in charge of whose feet"? The burning question in all horse's minds.
The mares body language before the session with Ryan vs after is night and day!!!! Fantastic job
I don't own a horse, but found this fascinating! She's si beautiful!
Awesome stuff! I love to your videos, now if I just had a horse lol. 🍎❤️🍎🇨🇦
Next paycheck I'm definitely getting on your patreon. I really wish this better understanding of horses would take off where I live, we have far too much old school "snub them to a post and sack them out" going on here and not enough care for what the horse needs. I love what you clarified about being the last stop for this horse so it "has" to work.
Thanks for helping her have another chance!
After Ryan, this lucky horse will find an adoption and a great life!
Thank you for being CLEAR in your explanations about what you were doing and why. Most people are not. Also - very importantly - thank you for using a horse with a problem. Most training videos show a lovely, calm horse, so the problem is not even part of the video. I appreciate your style, and it will help me with my dominant, difficult filly.
Watching your videos, it is eerie how much it aligns with herding dogs. Especially using the stick for both animals (intent vs. energy).
Thank you for saving her. She is a absolutely beautiful 😍.
When my dad grew up on a farm/ranch in Saskatchewan, Canada he was known as the "Horse Whisperer." I never had the opportunity to see him do any of that kind of work, but it makes me appreciate what you do even more. Thankyou.
you are a miracle worker, thank you for the horses you've saved! I am a patreon, but for some reason can't log in at work. can't wait to share the success i have had with my gaited horse, Josie, since i messaged you a couple weeks ago...it one session, and we have continued to progress!!!!
You are suppose to be working at work, right?
Probably on their break time 🙄
@@doannad.1518 this is why we are patreon members: so we can message Ryan without extraneous judgement and uninformed responses.
Thanks for sharing 🙏 God Bless Ya'll and Jesus Christ be with y'all 💯✝️🎚️🙏🛐
Equal parts yields and confidence is such a good lesson!!!
I've been enjoying your videos for months. I don't have a horse and never will. Just have enjoyed watching you work. Today is the first time I really understood what you're doing with the moving of the feet. It was fascinating to watch the horse do the same thing to the woman. You totally demonstrated that what you are doing is horse language. Everything makes a lot more sense now. Good explanation buddy!
Same philosophy can be Pplied to dog training. Unfortunately too many owners only want to be a friend
I’m not sure I’m following the logic in training a natural predator animal the same way as you’d train a natural prey animal…My 74lbs boxer IS my best friend and she is also well behaved and knows I’m the boss❤
@krystaldaniels7940 respecting an animal for what it is and not treating it like a human. You can love your pet and respect your pet without treating it like a surrogate child, partner etc. That goes for any animal you keep as a pet
I really appreciated the young woman reaching out. Sending big hearts ❤ from Canada.
A wonderful instructional video for veterinary students and veterinary practitioners thank you Richard Colletti DVM
Great training video. Thank you Ryan. I think she could use some fly spray too. ❤❤
Ryan's understanding of horses and training is only surpassed by his ability to explain it to us. 👍
Ryan honestly you are such a good trainer. Thanks so much for this video you make it look so easy. You know horses so well. Kudos. 👍
I've enjoyed watching this. I see many, many badly ridden horses here in the UK people seem to think they have the right to do anything on the roads and its the driver at fault. 9 times out of 10 it's the rider and a badly trained horse. Thank you for sharing your advice I hope people over the pond will take note of what you say
This is beautiful. I love that the horse learning to understand which leads to better behavior but also a more relaxed & less frustrated horse. It's not her fault that she doesn't understand & her previous owner may have unknowingly, conditioned her yo be that way. It's truly amazing to witness the mental & behavioral changes, as they happen. And in such a short amount of time. I imagine this will lead to a very healthy relationship & a strong bond between horse & owner. Very well done. I love it!
Thank you Ryan for explaining the balance between Confidence and Yielding. It makes so much sense the way you describe a horse looking at the water hole. always a balance between being cautious and trusting. As you said, working with horses is not about pets and cookies, it's about building a respectful bond with your horse.
So glad i found you ! Completely agree with what you are doing . Many people miss the fundamentals like this . This mare now has a chance to become a safe horse
This man is so right. Any animal needs a leader and if you can communicate leadership you can save the animal.
You have amazing ability to relieve the horse of the anxieties that it has without the owners realizing that actually they’re the ones that are getting the training. Quite a skill !
This is why I get scared when kids go near horses by themselves but rather accompany by adults. For that reason parents should be really careful. ❤❤❤
Harder to concentrate when didtracted by all the flies. I would think. Great video.
My mum was expert horsman she always said show who is boss!
I couldn't question your training and reasoning. You do so much for horses and their humans and it's all about the journey. Loved watching the progress in this video.
This is such a good exercise!! Thanks for all you do to help horses!
Everything you did & said made so much sense & with results. You're really great. Thanks!
Thank you
A clinical psychologist for adolescence and children and a great longtime horse person. You have a wonderful mix of the assertiveness kindness and just the right energy and you sent the horses very very well. I really like your channel. I think you’re gonna have a really good career well done.
Yes this! I found with my horse i want him out of my space. Someone did to much join up and he was thinking about charging me has zero respect of my space. I like your advise of just claiming the space n not keep driving. Thank you
I am not a horse owner nor rider~ it's very interesting watching you work with her. It's as if she wants to learn~
Another excellent video, Ryan. I love your patreon page. It is such a gold mine of information. You are such an awesome teacher, and finely slice n dice things which makes concepts so easy to learn. The patreon is such a good deal. Keep on keeping on 😊
Love this true conversation with this horse. Thank you!
(Valerie is doing a good job too! )
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I look at this horse and I see so much misery and trauma. Chances are she used to run free in the canyons with her family and herd. She's lost everything that meant anything to her. Being on the kill floor had to be absolutely devastating. Now she's alone, desperately wanting to be with her family and this person is trying to force her to do things that are unnatural to a wild horse. The whole thing is unbelievably sad. Nothing against this wonderful person who rescued her, I just feel bad for all horses they are running down with helicopters and removing from their natural lives. Makes me want to cry.
@@applekarma everyone has a way of seeing things.
Horses are not native to the usa to begin with. I’m not a fan of ‘hunting’ horses with helicopters. But for them to die from starvation because of the places that they are in does not feel good, since that also is because of how people live.
I feel really deeply for a way of living together with them. Close to nature as I personally do. And then it is very important that there are people teaching about horses in Their language instead of breaking them and forcing them with pain. Since people are always gonna wanna be around them. Teach them a better way and thing ‘ll be less hurtful. Teach them not to and they are going to do it anyways in most likely a harmful way.
Let’s have a conversation, instead of a conviction…
Awesome Amazing Job Well Done !! Two Thumbs Up 👍👍🐎🤠😎🤟
You can usually tell who’s in control by which way the leed rope runs through the hand
Just an fyi that are horses in similar situations, there was one going to be put down/ (euthanized) and was very aggressive which snapped barged kicked but they found out the horse was IN PAIN making it extremely grumpy, once they sorted out two arrears of pain mainly stemming from its hooves and back that was corrected. It was a different horse not grumpy no aggressiveness "now a happy and healthy horse!" This is not always the case but it is something that is overlooked please keep in mind pain can make a horse grumpy and aggressive just as it does with people. Please use fly repellent this horses is very uncomfortable getting severely bitten affecting the horses concentration with no escape from the Flies flight bands and fly sheet would help and spray allowing the horse to have better concentration when being worked with!
Spot on! Great video and commentary!
Whenever I have a problem and need some ideas or understand my mistakes or what i have missed while training my horses I go to Ryan's videos and there is always an answer or a better explanation to a behaviour i didn't understand. Totally best person to follow, so calm, so analytical and observant with a huge knowledge and experience. Many thanks for sharing it.
Thank you 🙏
This is so fascinating and educational thank you for sharing
Nice video. I'm really glad that you brought up the fact that training is mandatory, and that is because there is an unfortunate alternative.
People that don't know that a "dangerous " horse is usually put down pretty quick.
I have seen horses that were deemed to be untraceable and dangerous, usually by people that don't really know how to train. I've seen a few that someone like you was there and ask for a chance with the horse, and proved in a few moments that they did not have a dangerous horse, but an animal that needed a better trainer.
Thank you for all you do and all the knowledge you give folks. Ya'll are good people. If I manage to get a horse again I will be on your pateon page for certain.
My mare has absolutely no respect or care for beginners--she will get aggressive with them-- know what you are doing and she is a sweetheart..... so unfair to judge a horse by the ignorance of the people around them :(
so respectful of her training God Bless
Great episode! Cute horse and owner, cool trainer teaching a basic, but life saving lesson.
Another great video Ryan!
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Top training again! 👍 I've learned all this many years ago....since then knowledge has been washed down the drain in many different ways and disciplines....on the continent I can only think of KF Hempfling....for all the others is mostly about winning (useless) trophies at any cost.
Something is wrong with her shoulder
2 mins in, you can see she's super stressed from the flies. Her lips are pressed tight together and drawn back too. She's not comfortable at all, but she is being good and not pulling away etc.
I have been retired from working around 🐎 since the death of my husband. I do remember that before I left Oregon there was a gentleman that was in his eighty + years old and still rode dressage. I like to watch working with horses 🐎 🎉
PERFECT WAY TO THINK OF IT, WHEN YOU LEAD THE HORSE, YOU ARE THE LEAD MARE. WHEN YOUR DRIVING THE HORSE YOU ARE THE STALLION. Susan
First time watching you and you explain it so well. Just makes so much sense what you are saying
OMG, this guy's Good, excellent explanations of how horses Think / React.
God bless you. I love animal rescue.
I’m not a horse trainer, but it’s obvious to me the horse trusts you and you know exactly what you’re doing. Horses a strong dominant animals but they also want to be led. Great job cowboy. Thanks for saving this beautiful animal…
I'm not a cowboy but love what I've learned just watching this video.
Horses are bad ass so this is good what you do like you said the options are not good get better or die .
She seems to be responding well to your leadership. Great video
The moment at 19:29, such a beautiful moment. To get that so quickly, you know you have training skills. I hope this horse finds a human with those kinds of skills.
Law before Grace. Respect before Love.
She is absolutely beautiful and she is going to do great. Also when training her when she does good reward her by petting her and talking to her tell her she's a good girl and it wouldn't hurt to give her an apple once in awhile. She is going to be a very good horse and she's so gorgeous you are blessed to have her and I have no doubt that you two will bond❤😊😊
I am a firm Believer in oral communication as an Easy thing to do that Helps SO MUCH!! SHE'S GORGEOUS!!
First of all you have a very impressive voice that the horse responds too ….You are gentle ,but at the same time command respect…..and I believe the horse feels your presence and is comfortable …Keep up the wonderful work you do …😁😍
I love Ryan’s work! I have learned so much.
I spent a lot of time at ranches and farms when I was young. I worked with all types of animals and Thoroughbred horses which can be very temperamental!! To say it short some animals need to be handled firmly!! Horses are pretty large and can hurt you very badly and be quick about it!!
Horses love you! I love watching you with them. You teach them from the heart, ty
Can't watch this without feeling stressed, that horse is stressed from all the flies biting, maybe just me!
Wonderful video. Not a horse person, but have had at least one German Shepherd for the past 30 years. Your philosophy is not so dissimilar to dog training. Animals need confidence in their handler and you’re doing a wonderful service to both this horse and their human. Hopefully, this horse will have a content and enjoyable life ahead.
Beautiful work by Ryan Rose 👌
Great video! Thank you Ryan!
Lovely horse, great job Ryan.
Another great lesson. Thank you.
Excellent video, thanks!
Love this, thank you.
Great video, as usual.
Just love your videos , have learnt so much , thank you