My Official Vote For The 2023 NBA MVP | JJ Redick
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- čas přidán 9. 04. 2023
- It's official. JJ Redick has turned in his 2022-23 NBA Awards ballot. That's right, an MVP has been selected. All three guys are 100% deserving of the award but JJ could only pick one. It was tough to pick an MVP between Nikola Jokic (The Denver Nuggets), Joel Embiid (The Philadelphia 76ers) and Giannis Antetokounmpo (The Milwaukee Bucks) but JJ explains why he selected who he did and much more.
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This was so difficult. All three of these guys deserve MVP. If you'd like to know how the rest of the ballot looks, click here: music.amazon.com/podcasts/850aec38-7571-4652-92ec-56eaff427759/episodes/fdc5848f-a468-47a9-a3f5-8a9f55c169e8/the-old-man-and-the-three-with-jj-redick-and-tommy-alter-jj-reveals-his-2023-nba-awards-ballot-and-his-official-vote-for-mvp-the-old-man-and-the-three-things-episode-24
From Milwaukee but think it should b Emiid ginnias missed 2 many games and bucks we’re winning without him
@@Messikobe1024 He missed like 5 more games than Embiid. Just stop and he put up staggering numbers while missing his all star teammate. Embiid isn't even good. He just seems good because he is on a mediocre team.
Giannis is the MVP. He has proven it all season.
@@Messikobe1024 Agree, seems a bit weird to put so much into "best team/best record" and then give it to the one that missed the most games...
@jj. Got a question if you read this, why do we value the end of season more over the beginning of the season. One can trend down 📉 and still be overall at the top over another one who is trending up 📈. Hope i make sense in what i am trying to say.
Thank God JJ straight out said it. "I don't care about the Narative."
100% only Sensors and Feelers care about the narrative. JJ is clearly an XNTX. like this comment if you understand lol
This is a flake safe pick….. doesn’t want to vote either of the favorites so he chose Giannis knowing he’s not winning.
Scared white guy maintaining the status quo by not picking Jokic. Jokic is MVP and it's really not even close. If he didn't win the last 2 it would be a no brainer.
@@jamesonedwardsii4943 even tho its the internet and nobody gaf.. i have to say, i really think your wrong about that. He seems to be genuine and just looking at this for what it is, no hidden agenda
Forget the narrative the people set. Look at Joel's season. Just look at the basketball. He deserves it
I'm shocked at how many people counted Giannis out. He's the best player in the world on the best team. The man deserves the MVP but unfortunately the media wasn't giving him his credit this season.
he in so not even close to embiid .. Joel destroys him any time .. Giannis is not even top 5 in the NBA .. is Embiid , KD , Lebron , Harden , Luka , Curry , giannis
@@Donschningo lmaoo
@@Donschningo Congratulations on destroying all credibility you had 🎉
@@Donschningoharden lmao
@@Donschningo that’s 7
"Giannis is the MVP, he's my MVP" - JJ 🙌💯
Good thing JJ only counts as ONE vote because Giannis ain't it chief...You can't win MVP when your on a team that would still easily be a 5th or 6th seed without you bruh. His numbers are good, but they're not jump off the page great this year. So relax on the Giannis hype, plus he's even missed more games than Embiid!
@@moneymarr that’s a L take, ion why he shouldn’t win. But tell me who you have winning and why.. they’re all deserving
@@moneymarr Ah so the moment anyone has a good team, they’re disqualified from MVP talks? The Bucks finished #1 overall. What more could Giannis have done? I don’t get this argument.
@@moneymarr Your claim is simply not true. The Milwaukee Bucks had a 57% winrate this season without giannis playing and a 75% winrate with giannis playing. This means that giannis contributed to his team's winrate by +28%. On the other hand Philly had a 68% winrate without embiid and a 65% winrate with Embiid. This means embiid seems to have a negative effect on his own team by having an impact of -3% on his teams winrate. (Feel free to fact check me) This does not mean that Embiid is a bad player by any means, but it completely flips your argument and showcases exactly how great of an impact Giannis makes. As for the games missed, as JJ mentioned, there is no great difference between the three superstars. I really do not understand all the Giannis hate out there... not only should he win the MVP but DPOY as well
@@moneymarr GIANNIS SHOOT 50% FROM THOSE 30 PTS 25 ARE DUNKS ?? WILT SHOOT 65% FROM FADEAWAYS. JJ I KNOW U MAD 76ERS RELEASED U AFTER U CHOKE VS KAWHI LEONARD AND RAPTORS
Need more people like JJ, who does not care about "the narrative"
Why? narrative should matter. It's crazy to not take narratives into account when all three players are deserving.
When it's this close, I think head-to-head matchups should be a factor or tie-breaker.
@@jordanw9216 Because the NBA and media sway the narrative a certain way to make certain players shine more.
@@ZekeKR right and there is nothing wrong with that unless it makes someone undeserving get the award.
@@jordanw9216 There is something wrong with it because it gives an edge to a certain player just because of the simple fact they like them better.
JJ has all the answers. 100% agree on the Giannis pick. Playing historically great while leading his team to the best record in the league. Imagine how many more games the Bucks would've won had Giannis not missed as many games as he did.
How many more would they have won if Middleton wasn't out for the amount of games that he was.
Giannis sat 19 games and played 32 MPG hes not the MVP.
@@futurefox635 yet he has essentially the same stats as Embiid which means he is more efficient when he plays. Embiid only leads in points. Giannis has more assists and more rebounds in less time meaning he is doing more for his team. He only played three less games than Embiid and 6 less than Jokic.
@@TheBlackSage7
Imagine how many more games Jokic would win with THREE ALL STARS as teammates...
Imagine Jokic with the NETS' ALL TIME LEADING SCORER...
@@hemantjain6679 did you know if Embiid wins he will be the first MVP in sports history to have a worse winning percentage when he plays than when he sits?
That's a damning stat, the MVP can't make you lose at a higher rate.
JJ and Joel are good friends. Respect to JJ for liking at this award as a true voter and not being biased.
They are not jj is a fake friend. He has been bitter ever since he left the 76ers he just keeps it lowkey. I would say embiid and butler are actually friends
@@dominiquebrown2890 Oh you know so much about the relationship between NBA stars, you must be close to them, you're so lucky
@@dominiquebrown2890you’ve talked to them in person right
@@dominiquebrown2890 bro thinks he knows everything in celebrities lifes
@Oscar Martel I've been following the team for years and have heard jj reddick throw little shots for years since he left the 76ers
Finally someone with a rational thoughtprocess about the MVP.
Except the absolute fact that Embiid beats Giannis In every category besides rebounds and assists…….
Giannis: FG percentage, Rebounds and assists
Embiid: Points, 3pt percentage, free throw percentage, blocks, steals, less TOs
It’s funny how much people actually hate Embiid because he’s been the better player this year and it shouldn’t even be a thought
@@jamesonedwardsii4943 Maybe you should rewatch. He said really clearly that Embiid deserves to win it and most likely he is going to... But Giannis had a season unlike any other player IN THE HISTORY OF THE NBA and the best record, while having a much higher winning percentage than Embiid as JJ said...
@@kapers5772 maybe you should rewatch he said Giannis had a season unlike any other except Wilt the thing is the EXACT same can be said for Embiid since the only centers to score at this rate are Wilt and Kareem for one season……
@@jamesonedwardsii4943 I'm sure 90% of GMs in the league would rather have Giannis in their team than Emfraud 😂 People also forget that Giannis is easily the best LEADER out of all three candidates which is something that is just as valuable as points, assists, rebounds and whatnot.
Giannis sat 19 games and played 32 MPG hes not the MVP.
JJ picking Giannis over his former teammate, says a lot about his professionalism and objective analysis.
Giannis sat 19 games and played 32 MPG hes not the MVP.
@@futurefox635 He averaged 31 10 and 5 on 32 mpg. He's the MVP.
@@futurefox635 Yet they got the 1st seed. He did all he needed to do while not putting unnecessary strain on his body. He's also the best player of the three, any team would swap their best player with him if they could, and their team would be better off.
@@Kfarm2711 games missed should matter tho bc they did last year bc embiid woulda won but everyone said he missed too many games even tho he missed 6 more games than jokic. but now that giannis misses 6 more games than jokic this season for some reason it doesn’t matter? also let’s not forget nuggets were in 6th place and jokic still won it even when sixers had the better record, the criteria for mvp is just too inconsistent and it seems to me everyone changes the criteria whenever embiid is the favorite
@@edwingarcia4436 Did Embiid average 31-12-6 on 55fg% and 32 mpg while having the best record in the NBA?
JJ, happy to hear you chose Giannis as MVP even though he Probabaly won’t win. It’s not about who needs one for their resume it’s all about who earned it. Embiid is a great great player and if he finally gets his I’ll be happy for him but some people will feel like it was a pity pick. Don’t let the mainstream media dictate how you believe the vote should be in a vacuum. Looking forward to your playoff analysis!
It shouldn’t be a pity pick. The award is for the best player that led their team all the way and Embiid did just that anybody that thinks other wise should just stop watching basketball or sports in general. My pick is MVPIID 💯
@@phillyjackson45 I feel u, but did Giannis not do that as well? The Bucks r the best team in the NBA granted that they have a deep squad in comparison 2 Philly.
@@MBN03 I feel like the games played affects Giannis chance and Giannis has the best team when compared to the other guys.
@@MBN03 There have been players that led their team to the best record but still didn’t win MVP. This shouldn’t be any different. With that said Giannis deserves MVP too since he’s a monster and name alone but this has been one of if not Embiid’s best season.
@@MBN03 bucks won 16 straight without their arguably #2 best player. Giannis is a DPOY candidate. These things get left out to try and convince voters a new MVP should be crowned. If Embiid had a better record in the same confrence I wouldn’t care as much but as of rn, I don’t get how anyone can lean Joel over Giannis
Gianni’s is my choice too. It’s odd his name has been such an afterthought in this discussion as he’s had such an amazing season. Great job breaking down your rational.
There's no story around Giannis meaning there's no reason to give him a push for the mvp even if he is deserving. All 3 guys are deserving but it definitely feels like Embiid is getting the sympathy push largely in part because the voters gave the mvp to a 6th seed last year.
He's just so good that his excellence has become an expectation.
It's my pick ok ya great rationale
Giannis was missing Kris Middleton half the season and he still only had to play 32 minutes per game. He dominated the game so hard when he was in he barely had to play and the team became the 1 seed.
Remember when Embiid was missing Ben Simmons and carrying the Sixers with Seth Curry as his best teammate? No one seemed to care then
That’s also a testament to the great depth the Bucks have
@@stevescott3735 but we’re talking about the 2023 MVP
@@stevescott3735 also they didn't finish with the best record in the league
@@spencerweiss6337 right…and no one used that argument for Embiids case so I don’t wanna hear about it now
JJ I couldn’t agree more with your honesty. Genuine analysis
GIANNIS SHOOT 50% FROM THOSE 30 PTS 25 ARE DUNKS ?? WILT SHOOT 65% FROM FADEAWAYS. JJ I KNOW U MAD 76ERS RELEASED U AFTER U CHOKE VS KAWHI LEONARD AND RAPTORS
REALLY DERANGED SO WHY LOPEZ IS DPOY AND HOLIDAY BEST PERMETER DEFENSE ??
@@PIP...33harden is leading the league in assists🤧 joel has 2 20ppg scorers Giannis has 0 cry harder
@@PIP...33 what the hell are you on about 😂😂
What he saying is this is a let’s give it to the black dudes because we feel sorry for them mvp
Giannis is first, second, and twentieth in points, rebounds, and assists per 48, respectively, is top 3 in PER and top 5 in the DPOY race and is the best player on the team with the best record in the league. I firmly believe that if Giannis played in one of the NBA's largest markets instead of one of its smallest, he would be a shoo-in for MVP
This dude is ridiculous and despite all the nba schedule flexing i feel like people don’t get to watch him enough to really understand it. Like imo Joel
Is going to win MVP but any non casual will tell you Giannis the best player in the world
@@marcusjackson8084 man on the best team too lol
If that team won't so loaded will they record be like that
Giannis is by far the MVP...
You firmly believe if he played for a large market he would win an award he’s already won twice in a small market?
Thank you for actually being objective, and realizing Giannis deserves the MVP this season
how is he being objective?
Agreed! We have to get away from the narrative-based awards, and "voter fatigue". We have too many players not placed appropriately in a historical context because of voting narratives. Jordan was the best player in the NBA for the majority of his career. Kobe was arguably the best player a large part of his career. Shaq, lebron, etc, but their MVPs speak against that notion. Giannis is scoring a career high, about the same efficiency, about the same defense, for the overall #1 seed, who missed their 2nd best player for 60% of the season, HOW IS HE NOT MVP?!
Stats have absolutely no meaning without narratives and context. It is just numbers and we are not robots.
I'm absolutely convinced that Magic won 2 MVPs over Jordan because of voter fatigue.
'kobe was arguably the best player a large part of his career' - which part? the part where shaq was the best player in the league (pre-2004) or the part where lebron was the best player (post-2008)?
Not sure Kobe was a consensus best player in the league for more than maybe 2-3 years. Wasn't even the best player on his team for 3 of his rings.
@hannibot Bot so being the best player only means the best player on a championship team? Shaq is widely considered the most dominant modern player, yet he won 1 MVP, and was largely a decoy on his Miami championship, then a journeyman.
they finna give embiid the "here nigga damn" mvp
Crzy people say that when he leads the league in scoring back to back
@@GOKUKAMEHAMHA1 points don't mean everything
Lol this is funny. How’d you think of this
@@GOKUKAMEHAMHA1 Okay Shaq. The only metric he uses for MVP too.
@@maxwell_lus obviously but to diminish his deservedness to a “here nigga damn” award like he hasn’t been deserving of it for 3 straight years is disrespectful.
Clicked this video faster than Rudy ran after swinging at Anderson
Rudy Gobert for MVP 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
it was the walk away which was faster
Same same
@@august6281 he backed up pretty quick aye 😅
Regardless of who wins it, what a time it is for the revitalization of dominant big men. We have the greatest playmaker ever seen over 6'9", a Hakeem-like dominant scorer with a nearly unstoppable midrange game and the most physically fearsome player since LeBron all playing in the same era. Threes are worth more than twos but when you have dominant bigs who demand so much attention inside, it makes those open threes that much more frequent.
Greatest playmaker over 6'9.... Honestly, Jokic is a playmaker goat candidate. Teammates get so many layups its ridiculus. Needs to do it for a bunch more seasons but Jokic is right there.
Kevin Love
"Since LeBron" and Bron still playin. What a time to be alive!
@@ReservoirPunk what???? Love isn't even in the same ballpark playmaking wise as Jokic. He's very, very good but Jokic is just next level.
JORDAN Fabry was the best player to ever play the sport
I love everything JJ said. Denver fan, wanted Jokic to win, but agreed that end of the season was horrible, and he doesn't deserve to win. Giannas has just improved again. Even when you think, he can't get any better, he does.
It's sad the media started attacking him when he averaged a triple double as a center, goes to show many basketball fans don't watch games they just listen to talking heads.
Didn’t even deserve to win the past 2 years either. MVP award is given to one of the best players in the league, yet how can you be one of the best players & not make a deep playoff run? Idc about & I actually despise the “it’s a regular season award” argument. Every team in this entire league is playing with one main goal at the end of the day: WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP. Not get the most wins throughout the year. Given that idea it doesn’t make sense that the player who supposably adds the most wins should be given the award. If that’s the case why can’t Steph Curry be MVP in 21’. Or Kobe in the post Shaq era or even Sabonis this year? All teams listed would’ve lost significantly more games without them, yet they weren’t in serious MVP conversations. Dude even Mitchell & the Jazz in the early 20s. They were the 1 seed, yet neither Gobert or Mitchell were actually considered for the award. You know why? Because the truth is the real MVP & his team should be valid contenders. Every single one of those teams listed were not. It’s that simple. Despite their success we all know the Nuggets aren’t even going to make the finals so same rules should apply. Dude didn’t even make it to the conference finals his supposed MVP years & we’re supposed to praise his play? Get a grip. Tatum & Giannis should be the only answers ANYONE has. Seriously. One of those two teams is 100% winning a chip this year, or AT LEAST heavily favorited to. West is up for grabs, East not so much.
Nuggets are 1000% pretenders & no one on that team deserves an award now or even back then. If he does we all should really consider Perks point on privilege in this league…
@@larrycrumbs9219 nonsense
@@larrycrumbs9219 Is Embiid not one of the best players then? He hasn't even made it as far as Jokic.
@@larrycrumbs9219 wow.. there's no way you actually believe this...
JJ is a legend for picking giannis.
He did it to be cool. Giannis sat 19 games and played 32 MPG hes not the MVP.
@@futurefox635 but jokic and embiid both played more minutes a game than giannis? And Embiid sat 16 games?
@@mruberlicious2853 more durable and reliable, i agree
@@futurefox635 sooooo…he and the team shoulda played worse so that he had to play more minutes? What a joke of an argument ya clown
@@futurefox635 he did it so he wouldn't have to pick a side in the jokic embiid debate
I’ve been saying Giannis for months now, thank you JJ!
You're so wise
Wow you should get a vote next season
@@Dirt578 thanks man!
Giannis sat 19 games and played 32 MPG hes not the MVP.
@@futurefox635 32 minutes 31 10 and 5 if he played 36 it would be 35 11 5
JJ a legend for this
Y'all just throw around that word.
More like trash ,he just took the dumb narrative with jokic when he’s by far the mvp 🤣people don’t like stats but cried about Lebron being robbed or whoever and he lead in all these stats as well ..jokic complete robbery
He’s just picking Giannis for views 😂 that’s what JJ does
@@rickybobby5141 Joel would bring in more views you a dumbass he is a true voter who doesn’t bring bias or narrative into the argument
@Ricky Bobby for views? You gotta click on the video before you know he picks Giannis buddy
in a world full of fakes and phonies, having journalistic integrity and sticking to your beliefs even if they differ from everyone else’s is so rare and refreshing. so tired of here the same takes on twitter, reiterated on tv by “experts.”
not to mention the biggest dunks and nasty plays hes created on film, its truely an art, just look at the assists/passes hes done, hes done some crazy passes.
My respect for jj 📈📈📈📈📈
Yup same here
I don't respect voters, who don't care who they vote for.
Everytime I watch the Bucks, they absolutely dominate. I keep thinking "who the hell can beat these lot over 7 games? So I absolutely agree with this pick.
Celtics have habitually put the bucks down as well as anybody in the eastern conference since 2018… how many times have Giannas beat the Celtics…
They dominate but get beat by 40😂😂
like JJ said “i dont care” on referencing the past to make an argument for this year.. buttt ill play devils advocate 2018-now bucks got a championship celtics dont :)
@@austintripp9297 That was a low stakes game, bucks didn't have much reason to play hard.
@@austintripp9297 they messed up not resting players against the Pacers the night before. It was a road game and they were very clearly not at 100%.
It's crazy that the Bucks could have the MVP, the DPOY, and the 6MOTY this year
The crazy part is that Giannis is going to finish 2nd or 3rd. Brook is going to finish 2nd or 3rd. And Portis may finish 3rd or 4th.
@@heartbreak25 and coach bud is gonna finish 3rd or 4th. crazy how the best team in the league is gonna have nobody win a major award
and the wont win one of these .. because MVP and DPOY is EMbiid no debate !!
I don’t see Brogdon not winning 6MOTY
@@TheFatcake24 bobby
Love you, JJ! Giannis is the man! So much respect for his game! ❤
Congratulations on earning a vote this year.
Thank you for voting for the actual mvp as demonstrated by his per minute stats, seeding, versatility, leadership, mentality, defensive stats, resilience through team and personal injuries etc.
PS: Embiid played 66, not 68. 😉
I hope u acknowledge how much we all respect you JJ. Thank you for being transparent about your Voting process, you make the NBA a better place!
Totally agree with you JJ, great pick !! Hope Giannis wins MVP and another ring too 🔥🏀🙌🏻
A Real Mvp and a Real Champion unlike jokic.
SUNS IN 4
@@swish1457 who didn't have his 2nd or 3rd best players last year? Ok, so you don't watch basketball?😂
The best analyst in the game right now 🔥
I have soo much more respect for Jj now. I thought, he was going to vote like a media person but I am actually surprised
I’m a Joker guy, but I can’t hate on you for choosing Giannis. That man is a beast
Thank you JJ🙏🏾💯 Love the honesty
Giannis sat 19 games and played 32 MPG hes not the MVP.
How do you know JJ is being honest?
Giannis should be the MVP and I don’t get the Embiid narrative at all. If you’re the best player that season you should win it regardless of if you’ve already won it, otherwise it’s just a pity MVP. 31/12/6 on better efficiency, with a better record and better defense yet Joel deserves it? Why?
The argument is that the excellence Joel has played with this year is ridiculous, plenty to be the clear cut MVP if it happened in many other previous seasons. The issue is.. It didn't. Giannis had a better season than him and Jokic had a better one than either. #1 in Value over replacement, both offensive AND defensive box plus/minus, offensive win shares, win shares/48, and the only of the 3 to be top 20 in both offensive (#5) AND defensive (#12) rating. Substantially higher shooting percentages and still lead his team to #1 in his conference.
The fact his value over replacement is 33% above 2nd best in the league is pretty eye-opening
I'd vote for Giannis too (and I'm a white Slav! So Perks knows what's up!). I was disappointed when I felt that Jokić didn't care at all, he let that tripple-double average slip and ignored the end of the season. I felt similar about Embiid when he ducked the game in Denver. I felt these guys didn't care, didn't give us their best and all. Meanwhile Giannis never cheated us. He played the whole season, didn't skip a beat, has the best record, dominates on both ends. He's my MVP.
Thank you JJ…!! Giannis is truly the MVP. He plays for the Team & to Win Games, thats what an MVP should do. Giannis had so many games where he went out at like 36 in the 4th quader, because the game was won, he could easly go back in and go out with a 50Bomb just for the highlights, but he dont care!!
Thats an MVP.
Again watch the games. Joel has done that countless times this season as well.
@@mjtingle1 Bro there is literally a clip where the timer is 15sec. they are winning by 10 Points and Joel is begging Harden to give him the Ball so he can Score a 3pt to get 40points -.-
w/e we are all fans & have our favorites, lets enjoy the games and hope to have an awesome playoff, have a nice day my friend
@@Lunacyofficial there isn’t but keep making stuff up my man.
@@mjtingle1 looks like you have to watch some games man. Ask yourself if you would make a own team, would you rather have Embiid or Giannis in it?
A player that is unstoppable and needs 3 player to make a wall, & is a fantastic Team leader & a clutch player & dominates on both ends of the court.. well.. most nba player are saying that he is the best player in the league. I‘m just saying what everyone already knows.
@@Lunacyofficial do I want the guy who over the last two years is averaging more points, blocks, and steals while getting to the line just as often and shooting at 87%. Many nba players say the same damn thing about Joel so that point is dumb as well. Building a team be hard to pick. I’d lean Joel but it is way way closer than you are acting like it is.
Giannis should have been MVP the last 3-4 years. No one is is as consistent as Giannis in winning and scoring,rebounding and defense
I've been saying the same thing. For the past five years Giannis has put up the same exact numbers he did when he won back-to-back MVP
Giannis shouldn't have been MVP the last 2 seasons
@@nife6515 he should. Because this game is not just offense. He is by far the best of the three when you take into account both ends of the court.
so happy too hear you grade mvps like this, no narrative or voters fatigue taken into account; just wish this is how the voting always was
Giannis is 100% the mvp love that JJ didn't get swept up in media narratives, happy he has vote no matter who he voted for
Didn't "get swept" up in media narratives, unlike all other MVP-voters, throughout the history of the league. Narratives have been an important part of MVP-voting. And, JJ being too lazy of taking narratives into account, makes him look like the novice voter, that he literally is.
@@penkima4923 narratives shouldn't be taken into consideration THAT much, maybe a little bit, but it's about play and importance of the player to the team, win percentage and simply who the heck was the best player of the year not "OH man Joel needs one, or Jokic doesn't loose when he gets a triple double he's so great blah blah"
But he’s at home now huh?
@@inthebooks3947 he is but it is a regular season award and he was the best during the season
Finally people take a step back and realize that it's about the whole season and Giannis is the best two way player on the best team. People don't say he is the best in the world for nothing
love this. thanks for keeping it real, jj.
As a Cavs fan hearing you say Donovan at 5 warms my heart.
Respect to JJ for being unbiased and not allowing narrative and media to influence his vote.
best team in the league while giannis averages 30 without an jumpshot is truly remarkable
brook lopez is incredibly underrated tbh. hes essential to making that team work on both ends, his rim protection on the defensive side lets giannis be a roamer and offensively having a center who can launch threes like him is unbelievably important for a player like giannis. if you had a traditional center who cant shoot teams could just easily pack the paint
Truly remarkable is giving multiple awards for playing BASKETBALL to the guy who cant shoot and just run and dunk.
@@marekkotarba7574 cant shoot only run and dunk but every team knows this and is literally putting 3 on him during the break and still cant stop even in an playoff environment where the game slows down
What a fun/crazy MVP race this season, I think that if we put narratives aside, Giannis wins. But if I had to put money on someone I'd go with Embiid, but who knows, this has been a super exciting season.
Narratives aside Giannis wins? Embiids numbers are better everywhere but assists and rebounds. Yes defense metrics favors Embiid
@@jamesonedwardsii4943 I don't disagree that Embiid has a strong case for the MVP. It's just Giannis has the best win percentage on the best team. He's putting up numbers that haven't been put up since Wilt
@@scottjohnson315 Joel had a bad start and in the end, didn't play against Jokic. The personal thing for me is that I don't like Joel.Giannis is consistent and has the best mentality. Also, best player all around
@@tzvonarhis not best all around. He has the squad built around him. Joel shared the franchise player spot with Ben Simmons. So the comparison is biaised. Plus hes the only 7ft defensive option on his team. Embiid also leads his team both on scoring and rim protection.
People overate Giannis defense. On his own team Lopez has more blocks, steals, less fouls than him. Even in 2020 Lopez and AD had z better defensive season than him but he landed the DPOY. Narrative is on his side.
He recruited holiday to handle perimeter defense. So with holiday at the perimeter and Lopez at the rim protection, what does Gianni's actually have to do on defense so that people put him in top 5 defense of the season. Based on which metrics? Rebounds? Really?
@@danyn.a.350 Giannis is a beast in defense. He has quick hands and fast footwork. Onl thing that goes agains Giannis is Jrue and Brook. They were so good that it makes his job easy. But this is where Jokic gets extra points. Murray and Porter are so inconsistent that Gordon was the closest player to all star this year. And Joel has Harden. 1st in assist and makes Embiids life easier. Also Jokic i by definition MVP because he is the most valuable player to his team. As much as I don't like Joel, I don't qant to bash him because he has great season. Any of this players deserves to be MVP and at the end of the day, the most important award comes at the end of the season
JJ is my favorite NBA Analyst BY FARRRRRRR! take emotions and narratives out of things like this.
Respect JJ for being honest
Jo is never going to let you forget this
When Embiid wins it’s not gonna matter
Embiid earned this douche so much money
I love JJ’s podcasts. He’s knowledgeable and explains things well.
I completely agree with JJ. The Bucks were the best team in the league the entire season, despite the fact that the second best player on the team (Middleton) only played 33 games. Meanwhile, the second best players on the Nuggets (Murray) and Sixers (Harden) played 65 and 58 games, respectively.
I love how JJ just flat out said that he doesn't care about the narrative or previous seasons
Great pick, clearly the MVP. Giannis really getting that lebron treatment. Why do we not give the MVP to the best player?
Because it isn’t “the best player” award is it
@@joshharrison619 but what is the difference between the MVP and ‘the best player’. IMO they’re pretty much the same thing.
@@joshharrison619 the best player would be the most valuable dumbass
@@joshharrison619 Might as well rename the MVP the best story award
I don't see how Giannis deserves MVP this year if he is setting a record for most missed games on a team that doesn't even need him to sit at first seed.
AGREED! Best player in the league on the best team..What is the debate?!
Best player?
@@williamgray5491 Is there someone more dominant on both ends of the floor that translates to wins for their team I'm not thinking of? Love him, but don't say Embid.
mvp is most valuable... so it's relative to each team, not the best and that's all, that's a lazy take
Jokic with best PER, solidly #1 in value over replacement, offensive win shares, offensive bpm, defensive bpm, and win shares/48 minutes. Only one of the 3 in the top 20 offensive rating (#5) and defensive rating (#12), and lead his team to the best record in his conference. That's a lot of reasons for debate
Mad respect JJ. Great take. Love the honesty and common sense. 👏 🎉
Common sense?
Lack of sense. Embiid has been deserving of the MVP for three years, now. Giving the award to anyone else is really denying it from Embiid.
Honesty?
This is actually interesting. Wonder if it's a trade, to get the vote.
@@penkima4923 Sorry I can't hear you down there at 6th seed.
@@CampaignerSC But, you answered, so you're a liar.
Really impressed by JJ choice here, even more when I remember that he is a friend of Joel's and left Giannis out of his list when talking with Joel about the best players in an earlier episode. Giannis really is the best player in the best team and did it in a historic manner, with the whole Wilt numbers with an ever better percentage. When people look back to this era of the NBA, it will be impossible to talk about it without starting with the Freak. And to be honest, if he doesn't win this year (I would bet in Joel because of the narrative), we might look to 2023 in a few years in the same light we look into some Lebron or Kobe years: "wtf this guy only have X's MVPs?".
JJ is in bed with Ben Simmons…they’re no friends. Dude left for the Pelicans out of left field bc they offered the most money and left Embiid high and dry
This is why I like JJ he gives respect where it's deserved. Giannis had a historical year. He's the MVP.
I remember when JJ had Embiid on his podcast and he said Embiid is one of three of the best players in the NBA - KD,Embiid,Jokic and he out Giannis in the “next group”. Also you mentioned Embiid struggling in last years play offs , for someone who credits him self as a basketball watcher like your self , you should know Embiid had a thorn thumb ligament and a orbital fracture. The hypocrisy is hilarious 😂😂
JJ by far the best NBA journalist/reporter you name it! Keep grinding and much love from germany!
Well said I totally agree 😊
Jokic hands down. 70.2% TS% leads the league. That type of insane efficiency is just getting ignored, and it is ridiculous. Efficiency gods like Steph, KD, and Harden have NEVER even had a season above 68%. Giannis and Embiid have never had a season above 65%. Jokic is 10% above Giannis this season. Jokic is on another level that no one else can compare to when it comes to volume scoring at insane efficiency. And he's averaging 12 rebounds, 10 assists to boot. There's no case for anyone but Jokic.
And Jokic never gets credit for his defense. He's actually pretty good. Giannis has been DPOY, Embiid has been DPOY finalist. Nobody even mentions Jokic and defense together. Yet this year in defensive win shares Embiid 3.9, Jokic 3.8, Giannis 3.7. They're all basically tied
ye that along side his assist numbers put joker at most valueable in the league imo. But giannis is a better all around player but on a much better team. Joker is definately the mvp, Embiid is not on either players level yet.
I love the facts u stand by your MVP and he is my MVP according to the Definition of that Award period ❤
The definition of the award has always included narrative. Voting Giannis does the opposite.
Love the way you made your point clear. It is about this regular season only. Amazing content
Agreed on the Nuggets. They have been on cruise control as of late. I don't like how that feels rolling into that playoffs when you are going to get a scrappy team coming in ready to roll and peaking at the right time.
I can't fault you on the nuggets take sadly. After they beat Memphis they got lazy including Jokic. It's what ended up having me decide if I had a vote (I don't) it would go to embiid. At this point I dunno if the nuggets can reclaim their good habits in time now that games matter
Hell yeah dude! I was so blown away how Giannis was barely talked about before. I'm glad his name popped up at the end of the season and that you acknowledge such greatness! 🫡 Snapshot of the season is the perfect way of approaching MVP
In a messed up way, I'm actually really happy that Tommy kept pushing narratives and past seasons for JJ to really hammer home the point that past seasons shouldn't be indicative of a player's current performance and standing in the current MVP race. JJ stayed honest and true to his word 👏
I love the fact that JJ Redick went straight to the point on what truly matters; all the narrative BS. To imagine 30-10-5 , best player on the best team, best winning percentage and best points per minute yet we are having a debate? Something has got to change about the entire voting system and all the sub-stories being imposed on fans by the media. Giannis is my MVP!!!
The integrity of JJ Redick is unmatched
Giannis deserves it. Its voter fatigue. They dont want giannis to have more mvps than bron.
People say best player on best team. But he missed time and the team didn’t miss a beat
No, its Jokic by a mile. But yes, voters fatigue will give it to Joel even though I would take both Jokic and Giannis over him, Joel has been whining for an MVP for so long now they'll give him a pity one 100%.
@@GOKUKAMEHAMHA1 I mean he didn’t miss that much games than Joel and jokic. I think they all deserve it
@@FieldEmperor if you want to say jokic that’s cool but it’s not by a mile
You definitely get my subscribe for being truly honest without picking side 👍
I agree with Giannis by default. I say default because you can tell Jokic was turned off by striving and winning the trophy when he was labeled a "stat padder" and the racial aspect was brought into the MVP conversation. It was his to lose, 100%, until Denver started declining as soon as the MVP conversation became ridiculous. It's like Jokic took his foot off the gas on purpose so he could fade away from the top of this list Giannis has been the best player in the league for the past 3-4 years, is on the best overall team and has unfairly been given the LeBron/MJ MVP treatment the last two years. So him winning his 3rd makes complete sense.
well said by jj. one of the good analysts among former nba players
Him being an analyst is questionable, and doesn't represent former players.
JJ aussaulted Tommy in this one hahahaha. He's absolutely right tho and he's keeping it real
It's so bizarre that Giannis is having such a historic season and it's being ignored to the point of people not knowing about it. Like a few days ago when the TNT guys were discussing the MVP race, Kenny made an offhand remark that Giannis is averaging about 27 (?!) points per game. He's literally the second player since Wilt Chamberlain to average these sorts of numbers (30, 10 and 5) and there seems to be a collective effort by the media to just ignore it.
Mvp should be season specific. Not career. Joel deserves one but it's unfortunate he's also playing on a season where Giannis and Jokic are dominating.
Embiid is also dominating too remember 47pt 18reb 6ast on jokic head. 52point 13reb on boston celtics
You have to factor in doing it all without their second best player for half the season, and ramping up the second half. Best player on the best team. Best win percentage, and did better with him on the court. All that without his number two guy, just shows he's the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER on the best team
he right. mvp should go to the greek. these narratives... shouldn't influence people's votes cuz you can make the same case for giannis. he's been the most VALUABLE player this season. giving the mvp to embiid just because he hasn't gotten one yet and is deserving of it is bs.
I think about it and it's like, best player on the best team, most dominant player by far on most ends, and without a doubt impossible to convince yourself that anyone besides Giannis would go 1st in an NBA redraft. It's tough since all 3 had legendary seasons but one clearly stood above the rest when everything comes together.
Really great points JJ. What keeps Sabonis outside your top 5? Just win percentage?
Might be the first time in history I agree with JJ Redick. Don't feel good about that, but he's correct. Giannis is the MVP and he will not win it. There is no argument for Joel. His numbers are very similar to Giannis but he's on a worse team. A couple points higher in average, but worse in rebounds and assists. To be on the worse team, Joel needs to have had a significantly better season and it didn't happen. This is how it's worked throughout history. Magic Johnson won an mvp going 22/9 on the best team while Jordan went 33/8/8 on a worse team and didn't get it. That year Jordan did have the significantly better season and still didn't get it. This year, they are too close in numbers to give it to the player on the worse team. They are supposed to reward the better record. Hopefully they keep that trend going this season. Feels like Joel and his people have been basically begging for the mvp for a couple years now, so he might end up with it, but it should be Giannis
Thank you JJ! League is down giving Giannis these mvp awards mans is getting the Lebron treatment
Please don't put Giannis in the same category as LeRoid because he's in a class by himself
Some guys are just more valuable to their team's success than others:
- PHI w/o Embiid: 11-4
- MIL w/o Giannis: 10-9
- DEN w/o Jokic: 5-8
Giannis has the best record - but he has a better supporting cast than the other guys.
Embiid has the league's top assist guy on his team and one of the top 20 players in the league (still!) in Harden.
Jokic is the only one of these guys that doesn't have an all-star teammate. He's doing the most with the least.
Congrats for your vote JJ. Totally agree with it
I could not agree more with your pick!
glad someone sees giannis, he deserves it
JJ, you can’t say you don’t care about the narrative of the previous seasons. When James Harden in 2019 single handedly led the Rockets, averaging 36ppg, went on a run of 32 games of 30+ points with CP3 injured, the narrative was that Giannis deserved to win his first MVP and that’s what the voters did.
All round game all year long? Giannis has been the best.
I LOVE JJs take on this.
Giannis's been scoring like Embiid, rebounding like Jokic, delivering more assists then Embiid, defending like only Giannis does. The disrespect is crazy.
Great take JJ. I agree with you, Giannis would have my vote too, but ultimately Joel will probably due to narrative. Nonetheless, the 3 finalists have had insane seasons.
For me Embiid is my top choice I think he had the best individual season and led his team to great success. Giannis is my second pick since he's a top 3 player and on the best team in the league. I think they're the closest to each other. Jokic is my third since he statistically had the best season and has the best team in the west. Why I think it shouldn't go to Jokic over the other two is because the east is far more competitive this season and I really value defense. No hate to any of the three tho they all had a phenomenal season and played at an MVP level without a doubt
They had a better record when he didn’t play
3rd place bro
@@ConnectFork no clue which one you talking bout. Embiid?
@@dinkyb2000 again no clue what you talking bout
@Volrion not for long they start to lose
With friends like JJ, who needs enemies? Joel EMVPIID
I don't always agree with your takes, but I appreciate that you seem to have looked at things from every angle you can
I love the case for Giannis; I just respect and appreciate what Embiid is doing as big man. The versatility, the skill, and the narrative.
Can only hope the other MVP-voters care who they vote for. And, put some more time and effort coming up with the decision, than JJ.
my guy really said "narrative" I don't understand why people put so much worth on narrative, I agree with JJ. All love for Embiid though
This is a really touchy subject for JJ lol. Nonetheless, I agree with his pov. It's a look at this season independent from any other season. Doesn't matter what guys did in the past, what they're projected to do in the future or how where they rank overall compared to other players. It's all about this year's 82 games.
More NBA veterans like JJ should have an MVP vote. At least we'd know that more voters *actually* knew what they were doing.
JJ is 100%. Everything he said. One thing I would add is that MIL’s #2 option (Khris) missed 60% of the season, including MIL’s first 20 games where MIL still went 15-5.
The beauty of this season is the fact that either of 3 can win and all have a legitimate claim.
i think this is why the narrative for joel comes into play. its basically a three way tie so honor the guy who has come in 2nd multiple years in a row instead of giving one of the other guys a 3rd. i dont see anything wrong with that tbh
@@joejoe5156 Realizing this, and voting for anyone else but Embiid, doesn't make sense.