Luke Miani I’m guessing you went with the 10 Core i9, 8GB of Ram (upgraded yourself to 40GB), highest end 16GB graphics, 1TB SSD and the Nano Texture Glass.
So pretty hilarious, I placed an order a couple weeks ago for a new iMac 27” but several times had to cancel the order because I realized I made a mistake with the spec like not getting the SSD or Vega 48 and also not getting 8 GB of RAM so I can upgrade later. Well I must’ve freaked the system out because I had to wait for it to reset due to me using the education store and since placing my current order July 30th, I saw today my order was on hold and contacted support. To my surprise I found that my build has been upgraded to the new 10 core processor, Radeon Pro 5700, and my at the time upgraded 512 TB SSD is now standard so my order price actually goes down. I must have an iMac guardian angel or something 😅
@@KelvinKMS it still wouldn’t look as good as an iPhone camera - desktop webcams use a usb connection, including the iMac, and the cameras on an iPhone have a direct connection. 4K webcams are generally overkill for that reason - you generally lose a lot of detail due to compression
I'm looking to get a pretty higher end 27 inch iMac for my studio this month. I don't "really" care about Apple silicone. I'm running a mid-year 2010 Mac Pro. It's time to upgrade.
@mrFluorocarb while I agree with you on how something being expensive is relative, but you saying that adults with "grown up jobs" find 3400 for a PC cheap is the biggest nonsense I have ever heard of. If you find that price range cheap, you are the exception and nobody else.
Is that an external hard drive on top of your speakers' subwoofer? Because you know, vibrations and HDD are not the best combination. Plus there might be a strong magnetic field too. Love your vids by the way!
I plan on keeping my 27" iMac (late 2009) running Snow Leopard for Final Cut Pro 7. I hate to lose that amazing display, but I need an upgrade for everything else. Can you please do a side-by-side with the 2020 iMac base model and the M1 Mac Mini?
I’ve got the 2019 iMac. So I think I’ll wait until they update the design of the box + add the Apple silicon, before I update. But I’m happy to see they finally caught up with 2020 and made SSD standard... Finally! Lol
Same here 2012 27 inch iMac. I was hoping to upgrade this year, but there's no way I'm doing so with Apple Silicon in the wings. I might just get two monitors and hook up my 2019 Macbook Pro instead.
Same. Just did an external SSD hard drive clone update, which has given new life to my 2012 iMac. I’m not dropping real money until a) something unrepairable happens or b) the New new iMac comes out.
@@moniqueissac7416 I've had SSD from the start but I maxed out my ram to 32GB and that made a great difference a year ago. Like you, I'll hold out for the new ARM iMac as long as I can.
Thanks for the heads up! I was going to buy the 27" for my video editing. So I better stick with my current i5 8GB for a while and wait for a brand new product in near future.
Alien Frequency yes you can shop online. as long as your billing address is in a state that offers tax free weekend it will be honored. At checkout taxes may appear but once the charge is applied to your card, it should reflect the total without tax. That’s been my experience.
I don't know about everyone else, but this update was definitely exciting for me. 24 hours ago I was looking at an 8th gen processor and a trashy fusion drive. Now I was able to get a current gen chip, and an SSD, without even giving my config any sort of spec-up. And since I was looking to spend extra for an SSD anyway, I was able to comfortably upgrade to a 1TB SSD with no worries. All things considered, I'd call this exactly the kind of last hurrah the iMac line needed before Apple silicon makes it's debut. I'd expect these iMacs should comfortably last people through to when Intel support is fully dropped in a few years. Regardless, I'm super excited for mine to arrive in a couple weeks!
Apple just replaced my 4 times broken butterfly keyboard and 2 times broken retina display of my MBP 13" 2017 to the newest 2020 MBP. I shall stay here for the next few years - thank you ;-)
Not many people have picked up on this but 10th Gen Processors all support Hyperthreading, even the i5, in the previous generations you had to get i7 or above to access this technology.
The ONE thing I'm really worried about is thermal issues (throttling/overheating), especially with the new 10-core CPU. Interesting that they now added the T2 chip. This indicates to me that the iMac Pro will probably not see a refresh and that the 27" iMac is now the standard workhorse for mainstream professionals, including for video editing (now improved with the T2 chip). Another thing I'm curious about is how many external 5k monitors you can drive with the 27" iMac with the maxed GPU. I was favoring the iMac Pro because of the dual Thunderbolt controllers, allowing for two external 5k monitors. Turns out the tech spec page is clear on this: it will run two ProXDR monitors, but only one external 5K monitors. It will run two external 4K monitors, which I might resort back to, at a smaller size, to retain a similar resolution.
@@zero131056 After reading the tech spec page it turns out that you can only run one external 5k monitor, but you can run 2 ProXDRs. So like I thought, it has just a single Thunderbolt controller. You can run two 4k monitors, which I might resort to, and downsize the external monitors to 21" or something, to keep a similar retina resolution.
6:20 Does this mean they potentially soldered the storage to the motherboard this year? (I actually don’t know if they’re already soldered, but I’m assuming not because they kept spinning rust until last year)
When there are how think apple does design yes its soldered ssd like in the macbooks. So E-Waste by design, and with how slim the Apple displays are and there use the same design for the new iMacs with apple silicon then there is the soldered ram and ssd are not out of reach for them. My last hope there are not soldered down... like in any other redesigneed mac in the last years
they used hard drives and ssds before so they weren't soldered because you can solder a hard drive to the board. Now they likely will be soldered since they have no reason not to. But no one has gotten one and taken them apart yet so we don't know.
PpVolto They’ve actually behaved on the other desktop Macs. Yes the Mac Mini has a soldered SSD, but it had ram slots, I’m assuming the SSD was soldered for that cunt of a co-processor T2, and the Mac Pro has removable, and expandable storage, with expandable RAM. You can still have hope, plus with something like the iMac where there are more configurations, it might be cheaper for them to have ram slots
Base 27” model haven’t even got a SSD upgrade option... and then we have the costs. Max upgrade on the other models costs more than the entire computer. That’s just ridiculous. Strangely enough the CPU upgrade is decent.
when I saw the re-design rumours, I regretted buying a 32" monitor, and a Mac mini in May. With the lack of a re-design, this justifies my recent refresh. I last had an iMac in 2017, and have been holding back getting another, due to boredom with the 2010 design.
I *have* a 5K 2017 bought in desperation 2018 when my 2014 was going into the shop and the core-i9 model was tardy, and I'm buying the new 2020 5K with a core-i9, a Radeon Pro 5700 XT, 4 TB SSD, and 10gb ethernet. First off, I go up from 8 to 20 threads and from a Radeon Pro 580 8GB to a 5700 XT 16 GB and a 3 TB fusion drive to 4 TB SSD. (The 10 gb ethernet is just for future proofing). This is going to be a _massive_ increase in performance, and I expect my 7-10 hour transcode sessions to drop dramatically - and it puts a H.265 workflow into the range of possibility. The 2017 was pretty anemic, and I can see how if you have the 2019 you might want to hold off, but consider that if you game at all, you still have Windows (either virtual or boot camp) available. On the Mac side, AAA game titles have been pretty anemic, and Catalina bumped off a _lot_ of Mac gaming titles by dropping 32 bit mode - leaving Windows pretty much the only game in town. This machine gets you the fastest consumer Mac ever made, and the last capable of boot camp. I plan to use this machine until Apple silicon Macs become sufficiently compelling, and either AAA game developers start taking an interest in Apple silicon systems or virtual Windows becomes fast enough. Or if that never happens, and Apple silicon iMac and a cheap windows gaming machine. IIRC, the 2017 was purchased as top-of-the-line - the 2017 SSD topped out at 2 TB and was ludicrously expensive - so the big difference is how much top-of-the-line has changed.
The SSD Switch was long overdue. I checked it immediately. You can choose between a 256gb ssd or an 1TB Fusion Drive for the same price. I am owner of the entry model iMac with the 2,3Ghz i5. I am running MacOs from an external 1TB Samsung Evo SSD via Thunderbolt. This makes the computer much more usable. This machine is really sufficient for my basic needs. I am happy with it.
Luke, I 100% agree with you about these new 27" iMac models. This is good to see Apple staying true to what they said about Apple PCs staying with Intel for at least two years. I do wonder how well that 10 core chip will do inside that chassis? Did you get yours with the 16GB 5700XT? (:
I was able to purchase the mid tier pre-config for 50 bucks more than the base model. So for $1849 USD, I'm a Happy Camper! Great vid and thanks for sharing!
@@nathanc2k9 my condolences, I feel you. Have you heard of the workaround from stackexchange? Or the more rolled-up-sleeves variation by dosdude1? I was able to revive my 2011 15" MBP using the former method for a couple of months -then from one day to the next it wouldn't work anymore for no apparent reason. I felt like it could only throw the laptop in the dumpster, however using Linux (Manjaro in my case but any distro will do, really) my machine is up and running again. And fine, too! Only booting up is somewhat rough as the Mac is always trying to boot with the shot dedicated GPU (which is what caused the problem in the first place). So if you are a bit tech-savvy and not afraid of using another OS at least until you can afford a newer mac and really depend on that computer, I can point you to what you have to do.
Makes sense about the larger pro models coming later, That democratic is also the least likely to jump head first into a complete new platform. They need the stability of their work flow more than anything else.
Or you need to do actual work on it and may also need Windows. First Apple Silicon is a totally unknown from apps and compatibility view points, never mind any transition is painful. Plus no Windows....
@@MichaelGGarry Thanks for your viewpoint. I'm currently in urgent need to replace my Windows PC and planning of getting an Intel iMac. I don't think I can wait until October as my current PC has been behaving very weird lately like it's about to breakdown and die. At least my existing printer/scanner and other peripherals will still be compatible when I buy a new Intel iMac.
I think you went for the... ...Nanotexturegalss ... best 3,6 GHz 10 core i9 I think you'll upgrade the ram to 128 GB yourself ...Radeon Pro 5500 XT with 16 GB vRAM .. 10 Gigabit ethernet ... the magic mouse because for some bizarre reason you don't use a trackpad
@@RFLCPTR lemme rephrase that I wasn't expecting it to come out this soon, but it's honestly it's whatever as long as blender and Adobe apps works I'm fine
Not sure if that rational of upgrading the smaller version while keeping the larger makes sense. I'd say that size is often proportional to the performance one can get. More performance often also means more "premium". Hence, giving the iMac 27" the old face while redesigning the smaller ones doesn't make much sense. I'd actually think that they will update the iMac Pro with the new design and maybe introduce a 23" iMac Pro. That would be in keeping with the "Pro" theme of having smaller bezels.
You make good points. I went back and forth for several weeks. Do I pull the trigger or wait for Silicon? In the end, I decided 1) My 2015 iMac simply was not cutting it any more, 2) I really don't want 1st Gen Silicon, and 3) I'm anticipating at least 2-3 years (factoring in waiting for at least 2nd gen Silicon) before I'm ready for a new iMac, so I went ahead and bought 10 core with 5700xt GPU and 2tb storage and bought 128 gb ram from OWC. I think I'll be fine waiting a couple of years for Silicon -- at least I hope so! 😉
I have an older 2013 macbook and need an iMac for editing video. I almost purchased the 2019 iMac 27" and now I'm glad I didn't. I can't, however wait a year or two for the new chip. So I guess you answered my question of whether I should buy now or not. I definitely need a computer.
My guess. TOP line. 1TB SSD Edited as soon as I posted it, 10-core CPU. I thought the base was also 10 core. 8GB RAM normal glass screen. top GPU. Gigabit ethernet. Looking forwards to your next video. Thanks for the news.
will definitely stick with my 2017 27" iMac, especially now that i have 64gb of ram. what's it gonna take for them to give the entire line a complete design overhaul?
It stands to reason they’re working their way from the low-end up. Their experience with processors comes from phones and tablets, it makes sense they’d start from what’s closest to that.
I'm surprised Luke didn't report on that monumental 1080p webcam upgrade for the first time in the regular iMac line thanks to the new T2 Chip & you get True Tone too. Nifty. This could bring some big improvements to video production for Luke.
If you were going to max it out you might as well get the Pro and have ECC RAM, Xeon CPU and the improved thermals/cooling. The mid range option with the 10 core CPU seems the sweet spot though for decent performance and half the price of a Pro model (if you upgrade the RAM later).
I will admit, I'm actually in the market to buy a iMac for the first time since I primarily need a good system for works, personal usage, graphic illustrations, and maintaining my personal website (I've been working on MacBooks for a long time). Since I do not have that much of a budget I think the new 2020 27in iMac with 512gb of SSD storage will be more than enough for me both in budget wise and operations. Also I personally feel that I won't need the Silicon ARM base chip iMac since I think that may be overboard for my range of usage. Furthermore, with it's affordable price range I actually may have more funds to built a decent gaming pc as well.
1. As someone who bought an iMac during the last great chip transition(IBM to intel), I think it’s funny to advise someone with an older machine to upgrade to the spec bumped intel iMac. My first iMac was a graphite Special Edition G3… imagine if someone told me in early 2006 to go ahead & get the newest G5 iMac, only to see the 1st intel iMac debute a few months later. For the record, I’m glad I waited to get the late 2006 intel iMac as the G5 quickly fell by the wayside. 2. Do you think the chinless, shrunken bezel 23” iMac w/ Apple SoC will actually be more appealing than the 27” spec bumped intel iMac?
I recently picked up a mint 2017 27” for about $1100 and for my workflow (and the fact that InDesign is stupid and only uses 1 core) I don’t think I missed out much on that purchase over waiting for this iteration. Sure the processor is a bit faster, the GPU is a bit better, and an SSD would be nice, but with 40GB of RAM my new to me workstation hums along pretty well. This feels like it’s meant to be a stopgap until ARM-powered iMacs are released as opposed to any kind of radical leap forward (even if the new matte screen is nifty, albeit stupid expensive.)
Developers using iMac with boot camp for Windows or Linux or virtual machines for Intel based OSes may need to get this last iMac so they can have the most power for as long as possible.
for $3000 they should have included 16GB ram, they have been 8GB since 2010 considering the iMac design hasn't really changed since 2008 it is getting very old looking with the big bezels.
Luke what is the likelihood Apple will not allow users to add RAM to future BIG iMac's like the 27" ARM successor? Its another thing to consider between getting this iMac or the redesign in 6-12 months.
Why wouldn’t they come out with a Mac mini with Apple silicone since that is the model that developers can get for development of code for new processors?
You maxed everything except the ram and the SSD because you really want a look at that new nano glass. The only thing I’m not certain of is the Ethernet because I don’t know if your network supports it - but I’m thinking maxed for future proofing. 🧐. I’m definitely waiting for the first 12-14” AS MacBook as long as it launches with Big Sur. Hopefully AS plays nice with a 2011 iMac in Target Display mode...
For me this is a great upgrade. I’m coming from a 3rd gen i7 in a 2013 pc laptop and could barely get any of my photo editing done. Took hours. I went with a base i5 2020 iMac and I have 24gb of ram total between onboard and expansion cards.
I had the last generation of iBook G4, that still works to this day, but they obsoleted it when they discontinued Universal Binary. When Mavericks came out, it was the end. I'll wait till Apple silicon before spending any money on a new system.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you purchased the same one you spec'd out with the standard glass, 10 core i9, self RAM upgrade, 1TB SSD, and 5700XT.
I think you'll get the 8 core i7 model with 8gb of ram (which you'll upgrade later), 512gb storage and 5700 (not the XT) radeon pro graphics. With the nano texture glass, cause you probably wanna try it out. Also, without 10gb ethernet. Should be good enough.
You got a 27" Inch iMac, Standard Glass, 3.6 GHz 10-core i9, 8GB RAM, Radeon Pro 5700 XT with 16GB Memory GPU, 2 TB SSD. Which is what I would get if I were to buy one. :D
The release of Silicon will not be around for a while I believe because DEVs are so far behind on compatibility. Could be wrong but history shows it to be true.
People will be rushing to get this Imac only because it's got upgradeable RAM on the back and it works well with Bootcamp. I can guarantee you that the new Imac 27 or 32" will not be memory upgradeable.
I'm on iMac pro (base model). The Nano-texture glass and 'upgradeable' ram are very tempting, especially when I would only pay about $500 out of pocket to get the new iMac. Yay or nay?
For anyone who uses a lot of RAM, this is it. AS iMacs will have soldered RAM for sure. 64-128 GB RAM will cost you a fortune. Intel based Macs still has better native app support.
We have a late 2012 21.5" iMac. which still functions well on its Mojave 10.14.6 update. Catalina and this computer did not like each other!! The new 2020 27" iMac looks like quite an improvement over ours, but knowing a new design is on the horizon, and that ours still works well, I'm having second thoughts. We don't play games on the iMac, and are not in need of the features on the top tier computer. We use it for photos, word processing, email, and research primarily. The 2020 midrange 27" iMac is the one we were considering. Any thoughts or buying advice?
Hey Luke, I'm curious is the SSD soldered to the logic board? So what happens if the drive goes bad?? Can that be replaced? Or something only Apple can fix until your warranty is up. I'm just curious because I usually tend to keep my iMacs for a long time and this would be a bit of a game changer in my overall decision. Pretty sure this is going to be standard operating procedures for Apple and all their new iMacs/ computers coming down the pipeline. Curious on your thoughts! Was waiting for this one because I was a bit worried that the new silicon ones would not have removable storage like this one (RAM). But Apple's lack of putting in another fan or setting it up like the iMac Pro's cooling system has left a bitter taste in my mouth. There is a ton of room in that 2020 27" iMac they could have used to add this stuff. Makes me feel like they are more interested in making 3 trillion then taking care of their loyal customers!! Feels like they just through this one together with parts they had around the shop! Love to hear your thoughts.
I'm in absolute need of an iMac right now, and I'm not spending $3K on something that looks exactly the same as what I currently have. Other companies have way better designs, way better monitors than Apple. If I wanted something with a big fat bezel I would buy a CRT.
You want a matte display like you have in any 200$ monitor? Sure, fork over another 500! At least, it'll make the 200 needed to up to 16GB look like nothing...
Be sure to get subscribed with notifications on so you can catch my coverage when my 2020 iMac arrives! What specs do you think I went for?
definitely not the 21.5” i know that
lol! u fast ma dude!! just saw u tweet, now u already uploaded here and its 360p
luke....360p ????????????
My guess: 27", nano glass, 10-core, 8GB RAM (to be upgraded yourself), 2TB SSD, 10GB Ethernet.
Luke Miani I’m guessing you went with the 10 Core i9, 8GB of Ram (upgraded yourself to 40GB), highest end 16GB graphics, 1TB SSD and the Nano Texture Glass.
So pretty hilarious, I placed an order a couple weeks ago for a new iMac 27” but several times had to cancel the order because I realized I made a mistake with the spec like not getting the SSD or Vega 48 and also not getting 8 GB of RAM so I can upgrade later. Well I must’ve freaked the system out because I had to wait for it to reset due to me using the education store and since placing my current order July 30th, I saw today my order was on hold and contacted support. To my surprise I found that my build has been upgraded to the new 10 core processor, Radeon Pro 5700, and my at the time upgraded 512 TB SSD is now standard so my order price actually goes down. I must have an iMac guardian angel or something 😅
512 TB SSD?????hahhah
I meant GB 😂 or maybe I’m from the future 👀
@@MercMan if you are future ....did trump die?????
Unpopular Opinion I cannot say, butterfly effect and all that
Unpopular Opinion He will eventually die, just like the rest of us.
Two videos in one day? HECK YEAH!!!
Let’s hope that 1080p web cams (at least) are included in all MacBooks moving forwards...
I expect 4K webcam. In 2020, everything should be 4K !!!
Kelvin KMS 4K is so overkill for a webcam. Most people don’t even have a 4K display.
@@cobydog456 iMac is a retina display 21 inches is 4K. 27 inches is 5K. so it is definitely no problem at all !!
@@cobydog456 iPhone has 4K quality front facing camera too. so why iMac don't follow ? at least give us an option to choose 1080P or 4K webcam.
@@KelvinKMS it still wouldn’t look as good as an iPhone camera - desktop webcams use a usb connection, including the iMac, and the cameras on an iPhone have a direct connection. 4K webcams are generally overkill for that reason - you generally lose a lot of detail due to compression
I'm looking to get a pretty higher end 27 inch iMac for my studio this month. I don't "really" care about Apple silicone. I'm running a mid-year 2010 Mac Pro. It's time to upgrade.
wow, i'm so early its still in 360p! Haven't seen that in years!
Me too.
I was so confused why I couldn't view it in 1080p.
ikr
mE tOo
same
"We're looking at $3400 which is honestly not that bad"
Luke, love your videos but that is the most ridiculous statement I've heard in my life
nah
octorox true
@@octorox_animation if the imac 5k has target display mode it would be nice, but we both know what would happen.
@mrFluorocarb dude that's bullshit. You and me both know that 3400 for a PC is very expensive. Mine cost 1000 and has better specs. Stop it man
@mrFluorocarb while I agree with you on how something being expensive is relative, but you saying that adults with "grown up jobs" find 3400 for a PC cheap is the biggest nonsense I have ever heard of. If you find that price range cheap, you are the exception and nobody else.
Is that an external hard drive on top of your speakers' subwoofer? Because you know, vibrations and HDD are not the best combination. Plus there might be a strong magnetic field too. Love your vids by the way!
LUKE! What is this upload schedule?! Is this 2 uploads in 1 day?
(haha imac 2in1 = 2 upload one day ok i’ll leave)
why not intel iris pro 580?
DedoGamingONE UHD sounds better then Eyes amigo 😎
@@307skylake7 IRIS PRO sounds better than UHD
DedoGamingONE *_for you_*
man , i see u everywhere i go
I plan on keeping my 27" iMac (late 2009) running Snow Leopard for Final Cut Pro 7. I hate to lose that amazing display, but I need an upgrade for everything else. Can you please do a side-by-side with the 2020 iMac base model and the M1 Mac Mini?
Do a video on the last PowerPC iMac vs the last Intel iMac ^_^
I’ve got the 2019 iMac. So I think I’ll wait until they update the design of the box + add the Apple silicon, before I update. But I’m happy to see they finally caught up with 2020 and made SSD standard... Finally! Lol
I still want to wait and see on ARM stuff. Earlier 2019 stuff still holds up.
Brad DL mid 2012 too...
You will be fine since these modern chips are definitely powerful.
@@taylordarion3477 My late 2009 working splendidly as well.
2015 still flys
im on imac 2012, i want a god damn redesign 😂
Same here 2012 27 inch iMac. I was hoping to upgrade this year, but there's no way I'm doing so with Apple Silicon in the wings. I might just get two monitors and hook up my 2019 Macbook Pro instead.
Same. Just did an external SSD hard drive clone update, which has given new life to my 2012 iMac. I’m not dropping real money until a) something unrepairable happens or b) the New new iMac comes out.
@@moniqueissac7416 I've had SSD from the start but I maxed out my ram to 32GB and that made a great difference a year ago. Like you, I'll hold out for the new ARM iMac as long as I can.
@@paulholstein9448 team late 2012 here as well. I'm running an external nvme ssd and maxed out ram. I can wait another couple years.
8GB ram as standard is great. It means RAM can be swapped in from an existing iMac or a Mac mini without having to buy it all again.
You can’t add Ram to this iMac
mrtn Did you watch Luke’s video? RAM door at the back is clearly visible...
mrtn he said you can in the video.
mrtn Yeah you can, my gf has an iMac and you can pop open a door on the back and lever out the RAM sticks. Quite a nice design actually 👌🏻
Wow Looks So Different Than The Old One And The One Before It And The Other One Before It And It Goes On.......🤦🏻
Yup, lol!
Thanks for the heads up! I was going to buy the 27" for my video editing. So I better stick with my current i5 8GB for a while and wait for a brand new product in near future.
My 27in iMac is from 2009... I think I’m going to go ahead and buy this 2020 iMac on this coming tax free weekend in my state. 😕😕😕
That computer should last you several years as well. Congratulations on getting so many years out of your PC.
Does Apple's website honor tax-free weekends, or is that only in-store? All the Apple stores near me are closed, because of the 'rona.
@@AlienFrequency They Should, seeing as they request location for tax calculation at checkout
@@spencerrr9878 hmm... interesting... thanks for the info.
Alien Frequency yes you can shop online. as long as your billing address is in a state that offers tax free weekend it will be honored. At checkout taxes may appear but once the charge is applied to your card, it should reflect the total without tax. That’s been my experience.
I don't know about everyone else, but this update was definitely exciting for me. 24 hours ago I was looking at an 8th gen processor and a trashy fusion drive. Now I was able to get a current gen chip, and an SSD, without even giving my config any sort of spec-up. And since I was looking to spend extra for an SSD anyway, I was able to comfortably upgrade to a 1TB SSD with no worries.
All things considered, I'd call this exactly the kind of last hurrah the iMac line needed before Apple silicon makes it's debut. I'd expect these iMacs should comfortably last people through to when Intel support is fully dropped in a few years.
Regardless, I'm super excited for mine to arrive in a couple weeks!
Apple just replaced my 4 times broken butterfly keyboard and 2 times broken retina display of my MBP 13" 2017 to the newest 2020 MBP. I shall stay here for the next few years - thank you ;-)
I was so early that there was only a 360p option
u know you're early when it's still 360p bruh
Epic Pro huh?
You purchased the base model just to try it I think so
21.5" iMac got an update too. It finally doesn't come standard with a spinning hard drive/fusion drives and flash SSD standard across the 21.5" line.
Accordion to a study you read the first word wrong 😂😂😉
Good info. When you get a new 2020 iMac, please demonstrate how well it performs when editing 4k video using premiere pro. Thanks
2020 Specs
2010 Bezels
😂😂😂
😆👏 just what I was thinking!
I like them.
2007
@@fredvima9916 2009 actually, when it came with an unibody case for the first time
@@peteparker6879 still bad tho
360p anyone! Have been so early before! :) Luke your videos are amazing thank you for the great content :)
Not many people have picked up on this but 10th Gen Processors all support Hyperthreading, even the i5, in the previous generations you had to get i7 or above to access this technology.
The ONE thing I'm really worried about is thermal issues (throttling/overheating), especially with the new 10-core CPU. Interesting that they now added the T2 chip. This indicates to me that the iMac Pro will probably not see a refresh and that the 27" iMac is now the standard workhorse for mainstream professionals, including for video editing (now improved with the T2 chip).
Another thing I'm curious about is how many external 5k monitors you can drive with the 27" iMac with the maxed GPU. I was favoring the iMac Pro because of the dual Thunderbolt controllers, allowing for two external 5k monitors. Turns out the tech spec page is clear on this: it will run two ProXDR monitors, but only one external 5K monitors. It will run two external 4K monitors, which I might resort back to, at a smaller size, to retain a similar resolution.
The new iMac can support 2x 6K displays, including the Pro XDR.
@@zero131056 After reading the tech spec page it turns out that you can only run one external 5k monitor, but you can run 2 ProXDRs. So like I thought, it has just a single Thunderbolt controller. You can run two 4k monitors, which I might resort to, and downsize the external monitors to 21" or something, to keep a similar retina resolution.
An ARM iMac Pro is gonna be amazing
nano texture, 10 core i9, 8gb ram, 1tb ssd, 1gb ethernet, 16gb graphics.
8gb ram is a fucking joke, maybe good enough for apple watch.
@@llothar68 yea 32 gb is good
Lothar Scholz you can upgrade yourself
yeah someone else commented with only 8GB of RAM to an i9 - very strange and so unbalanced
6:20 Does this mean they potentially soldered the storage to the motherboard this year? (I actually don’t know if they’re already soldered, but I’m assuming not because they kept spinning rust until last year)
When there are how think apple does design yes its soldered ssd like in the macbooks. So E-Waste by design, and with how slim the Apple displays are and there use the same design for the new iMacs with apple silicon then there is the soldered ram and ssd are not out of reach for them. My last hope there are not soldered down... like in any other redesigneed mac in the last years
they used hard drives and ssds before so they weren't soldered because you can solder a hard drive to the board. Now they likely will be soldered since they have no reason not to. But no one has gotten one and taken them apart yet so we don't know.
PpVolto They’ve actually behaved on the other desktop Macs. Yes the Mac Mini has a soldered SSD, but it had ram slots, I’m assuming the SSD was soldered for that cunt of a co-processor T2, and the Mac Pro has removable, and expandable storage, with expandable RAM. You can still have hope, plus with something like the iMac where there are more configurations, it might be cheaper for them to have ram slots
Base 27” model haven’t even got a SSD upgrade option... and then we have the costs. Max upgrade on the other models costs more than the entire computer. That’s just ridiculous. Strangely enough the CPU upgrade is decent.
when I saw the re-design rumours, I regretted buying a 32" monitor, and a Mac mini in May. With the lack of a re-design, this justifies my recent refresh. I last had an iMac in 2017, and have been holding back getting another, due to boredom with the 2010 design.
I *have* a 5K 2017 bought in desperation 2018 when my 2014 was going into the shop and the core-i9 model was tardy, and I'm buying the new 2020 5K with a core-i9, a Radeon Pro 5700 XT, 4 TB SSD, and 10gb ethernet.
First off, I go up from 8 to 20 threads and from a Radeon Pro 580 8GB to a 5700 XT 16 GB and a 3 TB fusion drive to 4 TB SSD. (The 10 gb ethernet is just for future proofing).
This is going to be a _massive_ increase in performance, and I expect my 7-10 hour transcode sessions to drop dramatically - and it puts a H.265 workflow into the range of possibility.
The 2017 was pretty anemic, and I can see how if you have the 2019 you might want to hold off, but consider that if you game at all, you still have Windows (either virtual or boot camp) available.
On the Mac side, AAA game titles have been pretty anemic, and Catalina bumped off a _lot_ of Mac gaming titles by dropping 32 bit mode - leaving Windows pretty much the only game in town.
This machine gets you the fastest consumer Mac ever made, and the last capable of boot camp.
I plan to use this machine until Apple silicon Macs become sufficiently compelling, and either AAA game developers start taking an interest in Apple silicon systems or virtual Windows becomes fast enough. Or if that never happens, and Apple silicon iMac and a cheap windows gaming machine.
IIRC, the 2017 was purchased as top-of-the-line - the 2017 SSD topped out at 2 TB and was ludicrously expensive - so the big difference is how much top-of-the-line has changed.
The SSD Switch was long overdue. I checked it immediately. You can choose between a 256gb ssd or an 1TB Fusion Drive for the same price. I am owner of the entry model iMac with the 2,3Ghz i5. I am running MacOs from an external 1TB Samsung Evo SSD via Thunderbolt. This makes the computer much more usable. This machine is really sufficient for my basic needs. I am happy with it.
Luke, I 100% agree with you about these new 27" iMac models. This is good to see Apple staying true to what they said about Apple PCs staying with Intel for at least two years.
I do wonder how well that 10 core chip will do inside that chassis? Did you get yours with the 16GB 5700XT? (:
It baffles me that it took until 2020 for apple to make SSD storage standard on iMacs.
I was able to purchase the mid tier pre-config for 50 bucks more than the base model. So for $1849 USD, I'm a Happy Camper!
Great vid and thanks for sharing!
But.......... will ARM Macs have soldered on RAM to reduce size? could be the last chance to add ram yourself lol.
Still on maxed out 2011 27", i think i'm gonna wait for the redesign
2011 iMac user here, the early 2010s were truly when Apple products were good
Same here but OS can no longer be upgraded and some of my applications will also no longer update due to the older OS being used.
@@GregShaw honestly since most of my apps would be unsupported on Catalina anyway I'm ok with High Sierra
@@nathanc2k9 my condolences, I feel you. Have you heard of the workaround from stackexchange? Or the more rolled-up-sleeves variation by dosdude1? I was able to revive my 2011 15" MBP using the former method for a couple of months -then from one day to the next it wouldn't work anymore for no apparent reason. I felt like it could only throw the laptop in the dumpster, however using Linux (Manjaro in my case but any distro will do, really) my machine is up and running again. And fine, too!
Only booting up is somewhat rough as the Mac is always trying to boot with the shot dedicated GPU (which is what caused the problem in the first place).
So if you are a bit tech-savvy and not afraid of using another OS at least until you can afford a newer mac and really depend on that computer, I can point you to what you have to do.
How's the fan? On a lot?
Makes sense about the larger pro models coming later, That democratic is also the least likely to jump head first into a complete new platform. They need the stability of their work flow more than anything else.
One spec difference is the T2 chip, which can be a massive difference for video editing
Q should you buy last Intel iMac?
A if you run a museum ..
Or you need to do actual work on it and may also need Windows. First Apple Silicon is a totally unknown from apps and compatibility view points, never mind any transition is painful. Plus no Windows....
@@MichaelGGarry Thanks for your viewpoint. I'm currently in urgent need to replace my Windows PC and planning of getting an Intel iMac. I don't think I can wait until October as my current PC has been behaving very weird lately like it's about to breakdown and die. At least my existing printer/scanner and other peripherals will still be compatible when I buy a new Intel iMac.
Or if you are a serious professional/developer
Saw your comment on talosive tech!
I see you are scouting the competition
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I think you went for the...
...Nanotexturegalss
... best 3,6 GHz 10 core i9
I think you'll upgrade the ram to 128 GB yourself
...Radeon Pro 5500 XT with 16 GB vRAM
.. 10 Gigabit ethernet
... the magic mouse because for some bizarre reason you don't use a trackpad
ahh conveniently released just 2 weeks after I bought my 2019 iMac, at least I got a good deal on it.
I was nearly in that same position 😅
You could have done some research.
@@RFLCPTR I did I wasn't expecting a newer Intel iMac to be released though.
@@kylemorrell7138 I think it has been a stated fact since the WWDC
@@RFLCPTR lemme rephrase that I wasn't expecting it to come out this soon, but it's honestly it's whatever as long as blender and Adobe apps works I'm fine
I love how these iMacs probably just exist as legacy devices so they don't have to support the Fusion Drives anymore lmao
Lol
Why doesn't this have 4 USB-C like even lower computers such as the Mac Mini have had for years now?
Not sure if that rational of upgrading the smaller version while keeping the larger makes sense. I'd say that size is often proportional to the performance one can get. More performance often also means more "premium". Hence, giving the iMac 27" the old face while redesigning the smaller ones doesn't make much sense. I'd actually think that they will update the iMac Pro with the new design and maybe introduce a 23" iMac Pro. That would be in keeping with the "Pro" theme of having smaller bezels.
You make good points. I went back and forth for several weeks. Do I pull the trigger or wait for Silicon? In the end, I decided 1) My 2015 iMac simply was not cutting it any more, 2) I really don't want 1st Gen Silicon, and 3) I'm anticipating at least 2-3 years (factoring in waiting for at least 2nd gen Silicon) before I'm ready for a new iMac, so I went ahead and bought 10 core with 5700xt GPU and 2tb storage and bought 128 gb ram from OWC. I think I'll be fine waiting a couple of years for Silicon -- at least I hope so! 😉
I have an older 2013 macbook and need an iMac for editing video. I almost purchased the 2019 iMac 27" and now I'm glad I didn't. I can't, however wait a year or two for the new chip. So I guess you answered my question of whether I should buy now or not. I definitely need a computer.
My guess.
TOP line.
1TB SSD
Edited as soon as I posted it, 10-core CPU. I thought the base was also 10 core.
8GB RAM
normal glass screen.
top GPU.
Gigabit ethernet.
Looking forwards to your next video.
Thanks for the news.
you got the 10-core i9, the base 8GB of ram, the 5700 XT, the 1TB SSD, the standard 1gig ethernet and the nano textured glass
will definitely stick with my 2017 27" iMac, especially now that i have 64gb of ram. what's it gonna take for them to give the entire line a complete design overhaul?
The same here have a imac 27 2017 buy in 2018 with I7 4,2 ghz , 16 G ram and 512 SSD,.......i wait more 2 years for the all line up silicon
+The bearded Seeker when people stop buying the old model
I've been holding off getting a new iMac because I'm waiting for the redesign. Looks like I'm waiting another year!
I already went to the site. Thought this was talking about an iMac not looking at the site. Oh well
It stands to reason they’re working their way from the low-end up. Their experience with processors comes from phones and tablets, it makes sense they’d start from what’s closest to that.
I'm surprised Luke didn't report on that monumental 1080p webcam upgrade for the first time in the regular iMac line thanks to the new T2 Chip & you get True Tone too. Nifty. This could bring some big improvements to video production for Luke.
can you run Mojave on it? why don't you make a video about the many issues Catalina introduced for people with 3rd part external HD?
No HDDs available now for Intel iMacs. 21.5-in has either a 256 GB SSD or 1 TB Fusion drive. 27-in has SSD-only, no HDDs or Fusion drives. Good.
I'm surprised they haven't released any AMD Macs. Are they still doing this or was the idea dropped?
You beautifully covered all the bases. Succinctly!
If you were going to max it out you might as well get the Pro and have ECC RAM, Xeon CPU and the improved thermals/cooling. The mid range option with the 10 core CPU seems the sweet spot though for decent performance and half the price of a Pro model (if you upgrade the RAM later).
why 360p??
I will admit, I'm actually in the market to buy a iMac for the first time since I primarily need a good system for works, personal usage, graphic illustrations, and maintaining my personal website (I've been working on MacBooks for a long time). Since I do not have that much of a budget I think the new 2020 27in iMac with 512gb of SSD storage will be more than enough for me both in budget wise and operations. Also I personally feel that I won't need the Silicon ARM base chip iMac since I think that may be overboard for my range of usage. Furthermore, with it's affordable price range I actually may have more funds to built a decent gaming pc as well.
1. As someone who bought an iMac during the last great chip transition(IBM to intel), I think it’s funny to advise someone with an older machine to upgrade to the spec bumped intel iMac.
My first iMac was a graphite Special Edition G3… imagine if someone told me in early 2006 to go ahead & get the newest G5 iMac, only to see the 1st intel iMac debute a few months later.
For the record, I’m glad I waited to get the late 2006 intel iMac as the G5 quickly fell by the wayside.
2. Do you think the chinless, shrunken bezel 23” iMac w/ Apple SoC will actually be more appealing than the 27” spec bumped intel iMac?
I recently picked up a mint 2017 27” for about $1100 and for my workflow (and the fact that InDesign is stupid and only uses 1 core) I don’t think I missed out much on that purchase over waiting for this iteration. Sure the processor is a bit faster, the GPU is a bit better, and an SSD would be nice, but with 40GB of RAM my new to me workstation hums along pretty well. This feels like it’s meant to be a stopgap until ARM-powered iMacs are released as opposed to any kind of radical leap forward (even if the new matte screen is nifty, albeit stupid expensive.)
Developers using iMac with boot camp for Windows or Linux or virtual machines for Intel based OSes may need to get this last iMac so they can have the most power for as long as possible.
for $3000 they should have included 16GB ram, they have been 8GB since 2010 considering the iMac design hasn't really changed since 2008 it is getting very old looking with the big bezels.
I’m still rocking 2012 , 27inch iMac. 16Gb 1TB HD and an internal 1TB SSD. GarageBand and iMovie perfect.
Biggest disappointment is that we didn't got Space Grey for the iMac....
Luke what is the likelihood Apple will not allow users to add RAM to future BIG iMac's like the 27" ARM successor? Its another thing to consider between getting this iMac or the redesign in 6-12 months.
Why wouldn’t they come out with a Mac mini with Apple silicone since that is the model that developers can get for development of code for new processors?
Please suggest me 1 imac
Purpose.. Wedding video editing.
Please tell me the which configuration is best of me
It'll be interesting to see what the next generation iMacs are like. Presumably that will be the last generation of iMacs with Intel processors?
You maxed everything except the ram and the SSD because you really want a look at that new nano glass. The only thing I’m not certain of is the Ethernet because I don’t know if your network supports it - but I’m thinking maxed for future proofing. 🧐.
I’m definitely waiting for the first 12-14” AS MacBook as long as it launches with Big Sur. Hopefully AS plays nice with a 2011 iMac in Target Display mode...
For me this is a great upgrade. I’m coming from a 3rd gen i7 in a 2013 pc laptop and could barely get any of my photo editing done. Took hours. I went with a base i5 2020 iMac and I have 24gb of ram total between onboard and expansion cards.
I am assuming the 27" will still have the RAM access door? It is only $100 to get the 10GB Ethernet. That would future proof it some.
I had the last generation of iBook G4, that still works to this day, but they obsoleted it when they discontinued Universal Binary. When Mavericks came out, it was the end.
I'll wait till Apple silicon before spending any money on a new system.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you purchased the same one you spec'd out with the standard glass, 10 core i9, self RAM upgrade, 1TB SSD, and 5700XT.
I think you'll get the 8 core i7 model with 8gb of ram (which you'll upgrade later), 512gb storage and 5700 (not the XT) radeon pro graphics. With the nano texture glass, cause you probably wanna try it out. Also, without 10gb ethernet. Should be good enough.
You got a 27" Inch iMac, Standard Glass, 3.6 GHz 10-core i9, 8GB RAM, Radeon Pro 5700 XT with 16GB Memory GPU, 2 TB SSD. Which is what I would get if I were to buy one. :D
The release of Silicon will not be around for a while I believe because DEVs are so far behind on compatibility. Could be wrong but history shows it to be true.
The 21.5 inch model DID CHANGE. It now comes with a 256GB SSD in the base model!
Unbelievable these bezels are STILL MASSIVE in 2020
Good advice at the end, Luke.
People will be rushing to get this Imac only because it's got upgradeable RAM on the back and it works well with Bootcamp. I can guarantee you that the new Imac 27 or 32" will not be memory upgradeable.
I'm on a late 2015 5K right now. I'm not sure what to do honestly. I'm guessing, try to wait it out.
I'm on iMac pro (base model). The Nano-texture glass and 'upgradeable' ram are very tempting, especially when I would only pay about $500 out of pocket to get the new iMac. Yay or nay?
360p gang
For anyone who uses a lot of RAM, this is it. AS iMacs will have soldered RAM for sure. 64-128 GB RAM will cost you a fortune. Intel based Macs still has better native app support.
We have a late 2012 21.5" iMac. which still functions well on its Mojave 10.14.6 update.
Catalina and this computer did not like each other!!
The new 2020 27" iMac looks like quite an improvement over ours,
but knowing a new design is on the horizon, and that ours still works well, I'm having second thoughts.
We don't play games on the iMac, and are not in need of the features on the top tier computer.
We use it for photos, word processing, email, and research primarily. The 2020 midrange 27" iMac is the one we were considering.
Any thoughts or buying advice?
Hey Luke, I'm curious is the SSD soldered to the logic board? So what happens if the drive goes bad?? Can that be replaced? Or something only Apple can fix until your warranty is up. I'm just curious because I usually tend to keep my iMacs for a long time and this would be a bit of a game changer in my overall decision. Pretty sure this is going to be standard operating procedures for Apple and all their new iMacs/ computers coming down the pipeline. Curious on your thoughts! Was waiting for this one because I was a bit worried that the new silicon ones would not have removable storage like this one (RAM). But Apple's lack of putting in another fan or setting it up like the iMac Pro's cooling system has left a bitter taste in my mouth. There is a ton of room in that 2020 27" iMac they could have used to add this stuff. Makes me feel like they are more interested in making 3 trillion then taking care of their loyal customers!! Feels like they just through this one together with parts they had around the shop! Love to hear your thoughts.
I will definitely watch your unboxing of the spec bump update of the 2020 iMac.
I'm in absolute need of an iMac right now, and I'm not spending $3K on something that looks exactly the same as what I currently have. Other companies have way better designs, way better monitors than Apple. If I wanted something with a big fat bezel I would buy a CRT.
Could you recommend which brand RAM is good for iMac? Thank you so much!
When u so early u can only see the video at 360p
An iMac Pro-like for almost half the price? I think it's a solid buy.
You want a matte display like you have in any 200$ monitor? Sure, fork over another 500!
At least, it'll make the 200 needed to up to 16GB look like nothing...