Here’s why YOU should buy this INTEL Mac!

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  • čas přidán 9. 07. 2022
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    With Apple Silicon stealing the spotlight in the tech world these days, I think it's time to highlight a hidden gem in the Apple lineup of yore. Specifically, it's been my primary machine for nearly 3 years, my 18 core iMac Pro! Prices on these machines have plummeted ever since the Mac Studio with M1 Max and M1 Ultra launched in March, and now they've become some of the best deals on used Apple Macs you can find! Maybe your next high end Mac could be a loaded iMac Pro instead of a Mac Studio and Studio Display, who knows!
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  • @lukemiani
    @lukemiani  Před rokem +58

    It might not be the latest and greatest, but I think the iMac Pro is low-key the best Intel Mac ever made. Do you agree? Also, thanks to Omaze for sponsoring! Enter now at www.omaze.com/lukemiani

    • @sergiodominguez1584
      @sergiodominguez1584 Před rokem +1

      True

    • @bhavkaran4347
      @bhavkaran4347 Před rokem

      Yes

    • @armingeiss1281
      @armingeiss1281 Před rokem

      Yes

    • @oscarcharliezulu
      @oscarcharliezulu Před rokem +2

      I bought a used one year old 2020 10 core 5700xt model for half the price the owner paid and it’s fantastic. It’s faster than the 8 core iMac Pro and the gpu is a lot faster. With dual boot I can also play windows games. Lastly the display is incredible. I don’t do video editing so M1’s advantages aren’t super relevant to me

    • @TheMetalMag
      @TheMetalMag Před rokem +1

      u did it again..selling intel...

  • @theartistchair_
    @theartistchair_ Před rokem +247

    Nothing beats the space gray colour and the Xeon’s and Vega 64 graphics in these things are still bananas fast compared to some M1 family chips… that’s incredible that prices are going down!

    • @arturoehr
      @arturoehr Před rokem +20

      IMO this looks better on desk than the studio display + Mac studio

    • @FlopFan69
      @FlopFan69 Před rokem

      Color*

    • @Yzyenthusiast
      @Yzyenthusiast Před rokem +2

      @@arturoehr LOLLLLL

    • @f7m001
      @f7m001 Před rokem +6

      @@FlopFan69 bro?

    • @FlopFan69
      @FlopFan69 Před rokem

      @@f7m001 color is the correct spelling, if color isn’t the correct spelling, then gray isn’t either. I don’t think any country says colour and gray.

  • @andrewm6716
    @andrewm6716 Před rokem +52

    Every time I see the space grey and black accessories it makes me wish Apple brought them back. Hopefully they do so with the 202X iMac Pro.

    • @bigbubba0439
      @bigbubba0439 Před rokem +3

      Apple killed off the iMac Pro with the Studio Display and Mac Studio, unfortunately

    • @Riffcat
      @Riffcat Před rokem

      @@bigbubba0439 Do you know that for sure?

    • @bigbubba0439
      @bigbubba0439 Před rokem +1

      @@Riffcat Well, they removed it from the Apple website, and it was the only computer they wouldn't transition to Apple Silicon that they had offered - besides the 27-inch iMac (and they explicitly said that the Mac Pro would be transitioned and that they are still working on it, though it is still intel at the moment).

  • @Epicgamer_Mac
    @Epicgamer_Mac Před rokem +5

    100% love your take here Luke. Can’t believe how good of value this is when you really break it down like you did in this video. And the speakers in this thing might just be one of the most impressive I’ve ever heard in a computer, aside from the new MacBook Pros (simply bc of their size-to-speaker volume/quality ratio). Thanks for taking the time to make this vid instead of just up and selling the iMac Pro.

  • @krunge
    @krunge Před rokem +4

    I bought an iMac Pro base model 1,5 year ago but after about six months I noticed that the fans started spinning up a lot more (=more noise) and temperatures rising. First I thought it was because of recent MacOs updates but some months later just for fun I tried blowing condensed air into the vents and exhausts on the back and holy moly a ton of dust came out of it alongside big chunks of fluff. After that "cleaning" the temperature and noise has gone down a lot so I highly recommend this procedure if you like me don't have the skills to open it up completely.
    Also another thing I really like about this Intel based iMac Pro is that I can still use boot camp for gaming 😀

  • @RicardoDawson
    @RicardoDawson Před rokem +105

    Hmmm, i would say that the 2020 iMac 27" 5K is the better deal as it outperforms the base iMac Pro in most tests while being cheaper. I bought one yesterday to upgrade my (similar) 2015 model.

    • @scholardeville
      @scholardeville Před rokem +18

      it wont get updates for as long as the pro, simply because the pro has been mass bought by industrial and enterprise clients en masse, the trashcan got updates for 10 years, well beyond any 2014 or 15 model

    • @Miguel-fm8xh
      @Miguel-fm8xh Před rokem

      @@scholardeville But that’s 3 years and not 2

    • @smittyst0ic
      @smittyst0ic Před rokem +3

      @Ramp Good point on why the Mac Pro 2013 (trashcan) was likely supported longer. Even though you can run Monterey on the trashcan, its missing arguably the coolest feature in Big Sur "universal control" although you can just install Barrier to replace it (mostly). The trashcan will find it way into OpenCore legacy patcher soon enough though to keep it alive longer.
      I will say each MacOS release, post High Sierra (which fixed alot of hardware support) has had diminishing returns IMO so Apple dropping iMac Pro potentially in MacOS 14 won't be the end of the world (again maybe OpenCore legacy patcher keeps is going longer, if Intel is still supported).

    • @operabrotha5208
      @operabrotha5208 Před rokem +1

      iMacs have loud fan noise, while the water cooled iMac Pro does not.

    • @shalomrutere2649
      @shalomrutere2649 Před rokem +7

      @@scholardeville
      Updates have some importance but honestly speaking, even if Intel Macs receive MacOS Ventura as the last update, it won't be a disaster. Some people are still on MacOS Sierra and High Sierra till today and they do their work pretty well. On the Windows side, some people won't leave Windows 7 and others still work on Vista(I don't know why!!).
      The updates and feature of MacOS Monterey are more than enough to run all tasks for years to come.

  • @MaxTechOfficial
    @MaxTechOfficial Před rokem +44

    Completely agree! You can score some killer deals on these (better than 2020 iMacs) so as long as you don't need really fast single-core performance these can do a great job. We just sold ours to a photographer for $2000 and it's going to do a great job for lightroom classic.

    • @yannisgk
      @yannisgk Před rokem +2

      but whatabout energy consumption and temperature???

    • @Epicgamer_Mac
      @Epicgamer_Mac Před rokem +1

      Hey Max and Vadim! So glad to see you here! 😁
      Just wanted to let you know I agree with Luke and you 100% and I may just buy an iMac Pro now

    • @2728Alexis
      @2728Alexis Před 3 měsíci

      Having said that, the 2017 Xeon is still pretty much as fast as the 2015 i7 at single core.

  • @deltah6537
    @deltah6537 Před rokem +7

    Hi Luke, thanks for this fantastic video. I just recently bought an Imac Pro 8C with 64GB Ram, 2TB SSD and the Vega 58 for €2100 here in Hamburg, Germany. I am super happy with it, I mounted it to the wall behind my desk and I love the space grey colour of it. It still has enough power to run Battlefield V at 1440p, Anno1800 and even X-Plane 11 at decent settings via Bootcamp. The display is phenomenal and the webcam is fantastic. I wanted to replace my 16" macbook pro (2019) with it but sadly noone wants to buy that laptop for more than €1300. For that little money I will keep it, since that also is a very good machine. Keep up your very good work. Always looking forward to looking new videos. Best regards, Dominik.

  • @Mumble8988
    @Mumble8988 Před rokem +4

    Unfortunately $3000 to $4000 is Still way too high for me to afford. I'm like dirt poor.

  • @transitengineer
    @transitengineer Před rokem +6

    This is an outstanding post! When Apple, Inc. discontinued the 27-inch iMac Pro and their prices started to drop, I was saying to others ow appears to be the time to buy. Then after Apple, Inc. discontinued the last version of the 27-inch iMac and the prices of the iMac Pro's continued to drop, I said time to jog not walk and pick-up a used model. But, after the introduction of the new Mac Studio and Studio Display and the prices of the iMac Pro's kept dropping, I said from the "hill tops" ...time to buy a used iMac Pro. A few months ago, I had to decide between a $2,200 base 8-core 27-inch iMac Pro and a 2014, $1,200 trash can size 6-core D-700 Mac Pro. Only picked-up the 2014, Mac Pro because, I all ready had an Apple 27-inch Cinema LED (none thunderbolt) display. However, within the next three (3)-year's, I will be added for sure the 27-inch iMac Pro to my desktop collection (smile...smile).

  • @aelaan12
    @aelaan12 Před rokem +61

    The microphone on the iMac Pro is WAY better. Amazing!! It is actually something I am keeping my eye out for one of these. The only thing is the newest ones are now already 2-3 years young, how long will Apple keep supporting the Intel platform.... These are big unknowns. At some point they will optimize the OS to no longer have support for X86.

    • @scholardeville
      @scholardeville Před rokem +5

      due to the fact the imac pro is an enterprise/industrial product they will likely HAVE to support it for somewhere alonglike 10 years, happened to the trashcan too

    • @gergelyh
      @gergelyh Před rokem

      Not just iMac Pro but the 10k+ Mac Pro

    • @markm7411
      @markm7411 Před rokem +2

      I think apple will drop all Intels in max 3 years. even the Mac Pro from 2019, if we look how many devices went vintage with Ventura, MacBook Pro from 2016 all gone, I would not buy a computer with this price which going vintage in so little years, apple wants all devices now with there silicon, you also miss so many features which will come next years with the M lines, for example iPad Pro from 2020 don't got most important feature and this device haves super good apple silicon already, there you can see the path apple going, a pro device which is vintage after 2 years, so why should they stay longer with intel and M silicons, im 100% sure that this iMac will be vintage in 1-2 years. buy a max they so good so fast so responsive.

    • @Sergei__v
      @Sergei__v Před rokem +3

      @@markm7411 Vintage means nothing for people who actually do work on their computers. I personally buy the machine that jives well with the camera I use. It took 8 years for me to finally buy a more powerful iMac Pro to deal with bigger loads and newer cameras.2013 specked iMac was a workhorse is still working well.

    • @markm7411
      @markm7411 Před rokem

      @@Sergei__v That's Great that it works well for you : )) yess they are great machines totally true, but the thing I mean is like if you spend that much money 3-4k on a computer which soon don't get updates anymore its sad, I was just trying to warn that its better not to count on long updates because apple is killing intel super fast now, apple giving a lot of nice features to the M1 also, but most important thing is that companies very soon stop making apps for intel, one thing is like before when computer got to vintage but was still same architectures, now its different, you before where still able to download newest photoshop for example but this will stop because totally different architectures, then you also need to use an old app, which can get you in big trouble.
      with the same money you can buy a MacBook Pro max which will probably give you 8-10 years of updates plus its faster then any iMac which exist. I can tell since I have my Max I winning almost an hour per day, all the small things count : ))

  • @php4u
    @php4u Před rokem +13

    Luke, great video as usual. I am thinking of upgrading my 64GB 8-core trashcan for an iMac Pro with a Vega 64. For single core performance, is the 8-core better than the 10 core? I found one on eBay for $1400.

    • @aninditabasak7694
      @aninditabasak7694 Před rokem +3

      Mac Studio is better.

    • @php4u
      @php4u Před rokem

      @@aninditabasak7694 After sleeping on it, I agree. I have 2 LG Ultrafine displays, Keyboard and mouse, and when I trade-in a MBP my total expense for a Mac Studio will be $1600. While purchasing an iMac Pro for $2k is very appealing, it would not be practical for my situation.

    • @yannisgk
      @yannisgk Před rokem

      buy a supercomputer and getout of hea, suit bollock!!!

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto Před rokem +16

    I am not surprised this computer is still decent. These high end Macs do last a long time. I was shocked how many years I was able to get out of my 2010 Mac Pro. Good video Luke and see you at the next one.

    • @jamilgotcher5456
      @jamilgotcher5456 Před rokem

      How many years did you get out of it?

    • @nqanqanqa
      @nqanqanqa Před 9 měsíci

      @@jamilgotcher5456 I am still using my 2010 imac 27" ^^ And I am living i a country with very humid weather

  • @alfredalcala8916
    @alfredalcala8916 Před rokem

    Very informative video, Luke! Always enjoy the videos

  • @armingeiss1281
    @armingeiss1281 Před rokem

    Hi Luke, great video and overview about difference between apple silicon and this last high power intel machine. Since 3 years i have moved from windows based Thinkpad workstation to an Macbook pro 15" both are using Intel technology, but MACOS is much efficiently and the windows 10 bootcamp was used less and less. Can you tell which wallpaper to you use at you PC comparison ?

  • @richardharrell8365
    @richardharrell8365 Před rokem +7

    Backward compatibility is a concern. Ventura has dropped the highly valued pre-butterfly Macs. I lived through the PowerPC to Intel (PowerBook to MacBook / black polymer to aluminum) transition. That was jarring and yet it had better backward compatibility than we are seeing now. At least that is how I remember it.

  • @guyjordan8201
    @guyjordan8201 Před rokem +2

    Comparing at price also gets us a better comparison at performance. However, how does your iMac Pro compare to a buffed up m1 iMac?

  • @KyleProhaska
    @KyleProhaska Před rokem +9

    I have the 18c iMac Pro w/128GB RAM, 4TB, Vega 64, etc. and I've thought of selling it, but I go back/forth on it often. The biggest reason has been fear of not selling it before something going wrong with it becomes a bigger possibility, but that's just me being jittery I think. It'll likely be just fine for a long time, I just have to be willing to possibly sell for parts when/if something does fail on it. It's a risk, but is it a huge risk? Not really. For now, it's still a beast.

    • @user-hq9iu7uj8c
      @user-hq9iu7uj8c Před 9 měsíci

      my 2015 5k i7 iMac is still BLAZING fast and works great (other than it doesn't get latest os updates now) but i just recently bought an iMac pro .. 10core with vega 64 for 1000$ :)

  • @DeTechTive
    @DeTechTive Před rokem +2

    Craziest part is that they're even cheaper in Belgium. I bought one with the same specs for 1675 euros (1704 dollars) and there are many of them for sale.

  • @evantrenholm3043
    @evantrenholm3043 Před rokem +7

    Not Luke trying to advertise for the iMac Pro he’s about to list on eBay😂😂😂 jkjk

  • @brock985
    @brock985 Před rokem +29

    Best deal is still modding the 2017 iMac so it can be used as an external display (around $550 refurbished), can plug anything into it and will never have to worry about it losing update support (since it’s just a display at that point) yet it has almost the exact same specs as the $1600 studio display. Pair that with apple silicon and you’re set for years.

    • @garrykanter5773
      @garrykanter5773 Před rokem +1

      I've seen the Luna, but not mods.
      Is it complex?

    • @OlexandrIgnatov
      @OlexandrIgnatov Před rokem

      How can you do that, can you share?

    • @Miguel-fm8xh
      @Miguel-fm8xh Před rokem +1

      @@OlexandrIgnatov you can remove the internals and insert a display controller board, then stick the screen back on that housing. You can look up on youtube: „diy iMac display“

    • @warhero4545
      @warhero4545 Před rokem +2

      @@Miguel-fm8xh Did that just a few months ago on the 2015 5k iMac. Paired with my M1 MB Air for productivity and PC for 5k gaming, best of both worlds!

    • @OlexandrIgnatov
      @OlexandrIgnatov Před rokem +2

      @@Miguel-fm8xh thanks. No sense for me to remove iMac Pro internals 😃 may be a good idea for regular iMacs though!

  • @detailsmove
    @detailsmove Před rokem +3

    I'm debating whether I should get an M2 Macbook Air with 16gb ram and 512gb hd for $1690 or a base M1 Macbook Pro with 16gb ram and 512gb hd for $1978. Any recommendations?

  • @jacksonhorton1217
    @jacksonhorton1217 Před rokem

    Hey luke you make the best vids Keep it up! Quick question do you think I should buy a 2018 15-inch MacBook pro because the price has gone wayyy down

  • @jippalippa
    @jippalippa Před rokem +4

    I can only see this as a viable option if you desperately need to replace your old mac (perhaps it's broken) but you use one of the few program that still don't play well on apple silicon.
    Of course this wouldn't be a long term investmebt but it could save you in a pinch.

  • @nioxic77
    @nioxic77 Před rokem +7

    how about.. a base model macbook pro, for 2000 dollars (maybe with the memory upgrade if needed)
    then for the rest of the money saved (1700) you could get a great display as well.
    and you'd be able to travel with it
    you'd have a built in trackpad and keyboard
    and you wouldn't have wasted your money on some 5 year old intel system that is essentially being phased out... (losing out of upcoming macOS updates, would also suck)

  • @snuffles7314
    @snuffles7314 Před rokem

    Hey Luke, do you think it would make sense to go with a refurbished imac pro vs M1 mac mini? I can get a imac pro with better specs at a better price once the monitor is included, but I wanted to ask your opinion.

  • @leonardrillig626
    @leonardrillig626 Před rokem +2

    The iMac pro is a wonderful package. Right now, there's nothing like it. Sure there is the smaller M1 iMac but I really prefer the luxury, throwing any peripherals I like. 4x USB-A's + 4 USB-C's + Card Reader + Headphone Jack on the back and all that with a beautiful 5K display. That alone makes it an absolute work horse. Performance wise it's more than enough for most 'PRO' use cases.

  • @CFC.NobarR
    @CFC.NobarR Před rokem +2

    How long do you think this will get MacOS software support for?

  • @bigbubba0439
    @bigbubba0439 Před rokem +2

    2:12 Indeed, Luke. I'm watching this whilst playing modded Minecraft with 84 mods on my 2009 8-core, 14 gigs of ram Mac Pro. The machine is quite capable of gaming despite being close to a decade and a half old

  • @zgold1118
    @zgold1118 Před rokem +2

    I'm a freelance video editor and colorist, so I mainly work in Adobe and Davinci Resolve. I have a 16 inch MacBook Pro, the 8 core i9 version with 64 gb of ram and 8gb of video ram. Works well for a mobile machine. But my desktop was getting pretty weak, its just a normal 5k iMac from 2017, quad core i7 with 32 gb of ram and the graphics isnt too bad with the radeon 580 also with 8gb of video ram. I was considering the Mac studio and getting a separate monitor. But ultimately for various reasons and the price, I felt it best to skip it for now. I had considered the iMac Pro, as it felt like a solid middle ground between the Mac Pro and what I have now, especially with the machine I needed basically being the holdover until my next big upgrade. But admittedly with iMacs, I don't like buying used. Never know how well someone cared for it, mainly in regards to utilizing fan speed apps to keep the cpu as cool as possible (apple allows CPU temps to get way too high), and also dust build up. I thought about refurbished from apple, but it was still very expensive. So I did some digging, and OWC is selling refurbished iMac Pros right now, for less than half the price. Some of the specifics confuse me, but OWC is obviously very reliable so I trusted them, and I don't regret it. What it seems is that I got refurbished unit, sealed by apple, but then upgraded by OWC, so it's as close to a new machine as possible. All of these refurbished models come with the 10 core xeon(my personal favorite since it has the highest turbo boost and still above 3ghz base clock) and the radeon Vega 56 graphics card, and 1tb of storage. This tells me these are base model machines from 2019 when apple cut off the 8 core model. The nice part however is OWC will open the machine up and upgrade the ram for you. So I put in 128gb of ram. Buying this exact model from apple wouldve cost nearly $7000, I got it for $2500. It runs very well, installing a fan speed app and setting it to max speed when it begins to heat up keeps temps below 75C under load, and ultimately it just works great for what I do👍🔥

  • @hollowtrance
    @hollowtrance Před rokem +3

    I bought my iMac Pro 14 core with 64gb ram vega 64x and 1 tb ssd for $2800 total after taxes in September of 2021 off ebay. fantastic deal. Its a juggernaut. Theyre even cheaper now, so i should have waited a little longer but theyre great computers.

  • @charlierivera5725
    @charlierivera5725 Před 7 měsíci

    Great video wow. Can you list the hardware you use on this iMac so I can look at prices? Please. I have one and is running slow so I would like to update mine. I love the screen size and is 5k so not sure I’ll get used to anything else 😊
    Thank you very much

  • @jasonwilliams7752
    @jasonwilliams7752 Před rokem +2

    Still using my 2016 iMac With 32gb RAM and a 3tb Hard Drive, it's a fantastic machine

  • @MichaelBordenaro
    @MichaelBordenaro Před rokem +2

    It still sure is a powerful machine. My concern would be dropping 3 grand on a computer that won’t get macOS updates in about a year from now

  • @donmcdaniel1717
    @donmcdaniel1717 Před rokem

    Yes. Thanks I’ll look into one.

  • @DVDvision
    @DVDvision Před rokem +1

    I would get the same configuration as yours in a hearbeat. Great specs for the used price. And the look is phenomenal. It certainly looks better than both Apple Pro displays.

  • @furrylovebear6844
    @furrylovebear6844 Před rokem

    Is it possible this will increase in price (or hold persistently) since it's going to be nearly the best/performant way to keep a Mac while still being able to dual boot Windows?

  • @freduah4253
    @freduah4253 Před rokem

    I like this Channel exactly for that, Luke takes time to talk about all the products not only the high hand and most expensive one ! Like it Thanks

  • @e2U
    @e2U Před rokem

    where can you find this iMac pro, and what year to purchase?

  • @arkitekto323
    @arkitekto323 Před rokem

    I just bought a Mac Studio, but for a architect that works in 3D. There’s no support as far as render software. Does this make better sense?

  • @pianodrew
    @pianodrew Před 2 měsíci

    I’ve been looking at buying a refurbished iMac Pro. It’s a 64GB RAM, 1TB SSD, AMD Radeon Pro Vega 56. It’s the exact same price as the current brand new M3 iMac base model. I’m looking at doing some audio recording in Logic, some video editing either in Final Cut or DaVinci. Any advice on which would be best? Thanks.

  • @BeaglefreilaufKalkar
    @BeaglefreilaufKalkar Před rokem +14

    I own a i9 vega 48 27" iMac with 128 GB RAM, works perfectly and is more than capable to run the SW I use. Since Apple does not sell an 27" Apple Silicon iMac, I do not see a reason to get rid of my iMac, the display is much more important to me than the processor speed.
    The 27" iMac was always a really great deal, because of that display.
    The studio display sells for 1.749,00 € here, thats 1781 Dollar (including Tax).
    You can buy an Retina 5K iMac with an i7 and an Radeon Pro 5500 XT 8 GB for 1.423,00 Euro on ebay
    So, I a good display is important to you, like for photo editing, this is a killer deal.

    • @Videx19
      @Videx19 Před rokem

      I would buy the 18 core if MSFS 2020 would run better than on my 2020 iMac 27.”

  • @sbarneaionut
    @sbarneaionut Před rokem +1

    I did buy a 2020 imac from refurbished store in 2022😁, last month actually and it is a beast, super fast, any game works perfect, the display is just bananas, best overall package for 2k. Specs are i7 8 core with 32GB of ram (88 quid off amazon) 1TB apple ssd and xt5700 with 16GB of memory. I Do believe that I will need nothing more for at least next 4 years👍

  • @cosmicpapa
    @cosmicpapa Před měsícem

    Would it be possible to use the iMac Pro as a display for iMac mini m2 pro eventually some time in future ? Kind of an investment protection when upgrading to a second hand Mac mini avoiding to buy a separate display

  • @Roy_v_D
    @Roy_v_D Před 5 měsíci +2

    This week I had the harddisk exchanged for a 1TB SSD in my 2017 27" iMac. Great, feels like a new iMac.

    • @pedroblancou
      @pedroblancou Před 3 měsíci

      Do you cancel the fusion? Only using a NVMv SSD?

    • @Roy_v_D
      @Roy_v_D Před 3 měsíci

      I exchanged the HD for a SSD. Now only using the SSD! @@pedroblancou

  • @ericstromquist9458
    @ericstromquist9458 Před rokem

    I'm not a video editor and own a 2017 iMac Pro 10 core, Vega 56, 32GB, 2TB where the most demanding applications I use are Lightroom and Mathematica. The day the studio display was announced, I immediately checked whether Apple still sold the VESA mount conversion kit for the iMac pro. They did, and now I have the iMac pro and studio display both hanging over my desk on a 2-arm mount working great as a two 27" screen system. This cost me about $1,800. An equivalent Mac studio Max and two studio displays and a VESA mount would have cost me $6,100. It's a little lopsided with the iMac chin on one screen, but I'm very happy with this setup.

  • @RobloxianX
    @RobloxianX Před 6 měsíci +1

    Something I found out is that the 2020 Intel iMac with the i9 and 5700 xt is actually faster than the maxed out imac pro for stuff like 3d rendering, gaming, video editing. So now the question is, can the maxed out 2020 imac beat the maxed out m3 imac?

  • @joshmorgan3750
    @joshmorgan3750 Před rokem +1

    Hey @lukemiani is there a chance you could do the iMac Pro vs Mac Studio editing video but concentrate on timeline smoothness and how they both handle effects etc. I’ve been super curious how both the iMac Pro or Mac Studio handle real world edits full of effects and different speed ramps or noise reduction.
    Keep Up the solid work 🤙

  • @justthebeginning.
    @justthebeginning. Před rokem

    I have one of these Mac Pro’s. What do I need to make it run smoothly when using Logic Pro?

  • @STATIONNEWS-uk3yd
    @STATIONNEWS-uk3yd Před rokem +1

    I thought about this very thing myself but felt that the studio with ultra was better in the long run. I did talk to Apple about using my old imac as a monitor and they did seem to indicated that this was possible. So buying a iMac pro with a Studio would be a great idea if it actually works. Maybe you should test that.

  • @iRedMCYT
    @iRedMCYT Před 11 měsíci

    I’d make pretty much the exact same arguments for the last i9 MacBook Pro, I started using one after I returned my 14” MacBook Pro and my 16” M1 Pro MacBook Pro and I always came back to the machine that did everything I needed it to… except battery life. To be fair though I drained an almost brand new 16” M1 Pro MacBook Pro battery in like 2 hours, so it’s only about double the battery life and I don’t think I could give up x86_64 compat and Windows 10 compat for that.

  • @stever1514
    @stever1514 Před rokem +2

    I rewatched your video from last year of how you edited videos on the new 24" iMac and found it faster in many ways and I'm a bit confused now. I've had 27" iMacs since 2013 and despite the value proposition of a used 2020 5k or 2017 iMac Pro model for close to the price of an M1, I still think I would go for an Apple Silicon model as right now i need it for 4k multicam video editing and some light photo work. If I was doing music production with orchestral soft synths i definitely would go with an iMac that supports far more Ram, 64gigs or more would be better suited for that task and far more affordable than a comparably equipped Mac Studio or MB Pro.

  • @peterkohlmetzmoller
    @peterkohlmetzmoller Před rokem +2

    Just bought the base model for 1200$, amazing deal!

  • @menjivarTv
    @menjivarTv Před rokem +3

    This video is proof that we still need a new 27 iMac. I want a big screen to play some casual games or play movies. I don’t need the performance of a Mac studio.

  • @TechTipsUSA
    @TechTipsUSA Před rokem +3

    10:53 it says m2?

  • @ohyea2723
    @ohyea2723 Před rokem

    I just brought a iMac 27” retails at 1700$ at Best Buy’s open box for 649$. I hope when I pick it up it’s definitely not in shambles. I can’t see Best Buy’s selling it if there’s something really wrong with it. Any advice would be greatly appreciated

  • @arnemarco
    @arnemarco Před rokem

    Hi Luke, Apple does not sell refurbished Apples in Norway. Their website has only the new iMac. But now I found an authorized reseller who has an iMac 5K MXWV2 with 8 Gb Ram, iCore 7 3.8 GHz, 512 GB SSD, Radeon Pro 5500 XT. OWC offers up to 128 Gb RAM for this model. The cost: NOK 27.500.- ($ 2.700.-), the Studio Display alone costs NOK 19.000.- ($ 1.860). I am mostly working with Photos in LightRoom. Today I have a Mac Pro 5.1 from 2010. Could it be a better deal than a new Mac Studio? For any advice many thanks!

  • @thesisko3715
    @thesisko3715 Před rokem +3

    I hope Apple will do one of two things:
    Release the next 24” iMac with M2 and higher RAM options (32gb minimum-64 to 128 preferably) and higher storage options (4TB minimum, 6-8 preferably).
    Release a new iMac Pro with M2/3/whatever and lots of customization options (doubtful since it will eat into Studio Display sales)

  • @pussypussypussypussypussy

    I’d totally get one of these purely because of the Space Grey design

  • @WanderingAroundAZ
    @WanderingAroundAZ Před rokem +1

    How well does an iMac Pro run Windows? I have plenty of M1 Macs, but need a new Windows machine.

  • @chasestrange8694
    @chasestrange8694 Před rokem +6

    I am seriously considering getting the iMac Pro as my first desktop computer. I have been using Mac computers since college and have enjoyed them ever since. I also prefer the x86 architecture over the ARM architecture, just because I run Windows 10 on my Mac. So I just like how I’m getting the best of both worlds in a single machine.

    • @chasestrange8694
      @chasestrange8694 Před rokem +1

      I just got my iMac Pro and I am in love with it!

    • @E38vip
      @E38vip Před rokem +1

      @@chasestrange8694 good to hear I have 12 inch MacBook I’ll get the arm hardware when the price is right but I got my eye on these iMac Pros in the mean time. How do you like yours?

  • @GeorgeKringas
    @GeorgeKringas Před 11 měsíci +1

    just picked one up for $940!!! very capable and fast machine also with a beautiful 27in 5k

  • @grafxdesigner93
    @grafxdesigner93 Před rokem

    I have the iMac of the same year model as the iMac Pro but it is a CTO model with a 4.2Ghz Quad i7. I love it.

  • @braxtonbisceglia5195
    @braxtonbisceglia5195 Před rokem +5

    I really agree with what you said that something doesn’t have to be the latest and greatest to be great. I found a 27” Cinema Display at a thrift store for 15$ and it’s a great pair for my M1 MBP a 2k monitor, webcam and speakers? Yes please and it’s $1,585 cheaper? Yep I’ll take that

  • @stevenwaldstein2249
    @stevenwaldstein2249 Před rokem

    Also please provide written copy exact model spec for what what you are comparing for you iMac Pro please

  • @simpromovie
    @simpromovie Před rokem +2

    I miss the 27" iMacs so much....In the summer I move to my terrace with my iMac and that is really a pain with a Mac Studio and all the additional components. A MacBook or even the 24" iMac is no alternative for me because I need the screen size...

  • @ChristianGiegerich
    @ChristianGiegerich Před rokem +12

    Good points you made. But one thing needs to be considered: Apple´s Update policy. Since Apple announces that the new OS is already no more available for anything older than some Late 2016 models, it s a question of time since all INTEL Macs won t get the MacOS ...and what this means you can count on one hand. You have to stick with what you have....esp. when it comes to Adobe products, that s a critical point.

    • @willm5032
      @willm5032 Před rokem

      Though, if you're willing to learn some basic computing you can go the opencore route and get OS support for later versions of OSX. you can get Big Sur onto 2008 machines if they've got metal capab;e graphics cards

    • @elfedorausado
      @elfedorausado Před rokem +1

      @@willm5032 I don't think most people buying old apple tech do so because they are tech-savvy 😂

    • @willm5032
      @willm5032 Před rokem +1

      @@elfedorausado you're not wrong hahah but it Is possible!! I have an old Mac Pro I've been running for years

    • @elfedorausado
      @elfedorausado Před rokem +1

      @@willm5032 that's great. I'm a fan of keeping "old" tech usable for as long as possible.

    • @willm5032
      @willm5032 Před rokem

      @@elfedorausado same! I should really replace it but it does the job for my use requirements so I'll keep it going for now! Plus I'll eventually retire it as a data storage machine so it'll be with me for a good while yet, hopefully

  • @rmunozarancibia
    @rmunozarancibia Před 17 dny

    Hi Luck, what do you think? An imac pro 10 cores $1600 or imac 5k 2020 3,1 ghz and 256gb ($1000) plus ssd external drive for windows bootcamp ? May I install windows internally on 256GB ssd and osx on 1TB external ssd? I need run windows on my imac, i must work on MS PowerBi ocasionally. Please answer me.

  • @zacharietg
    @zacharietg Před rokem +1

    Hello, I think that can be interessting to compare with a full option M1 Mac Mini.

  • @shxdow112
    @shxdow112 Před rokem

    i just finished watching one of your vids and it was really interesting keep up the good work

  • @dolyha
    @dolyha Před rokem

    I love the 27 inch retina display on the apple imac 5k, but apple doesn't sell the 27 inch imac m1, can you make a video on how to mod an old 5k imac into a 5k m1 imac. because the 5k screen is awesome

  • @Baluchishair
    @Baluchishair Před rokem

    Hey Luke, this is Hanif Ali Baluch a hack of your videos consumer. So, after watching a tens of your trusty iMac buyer guides (may they are) and upgrade procedures I've decided to go get an iMac for my personal use but since I live in a far far east village where not everything you told us are available. Some of them do exist, what do you recommend me to go for when it comes to photo editing right now but may be DaVinci resolve will be the next app I'll be using in it. I can't get a late 2012 because of its high price and I don't thing a core2duo would work these jobs. Would a corei5 2011 with 8 GB ram dose the job right?

  • @saulsproject7416
    @saulsproject7416 Před rokem

    I guess the camera on the studio display is worst due to the ultra wide camera and the center stage processing rather than the iMac Pro that doesn’t add that “zoom” to the image

  • @JKNProductions
    @JKNProductions Před rokem

    One benefit of getting the Mac Studio and the Studio display is that the Studio Display can be easily used as a secondary monitor or you can switch out the computer that is attached to it. The iMac display is not as easily converted

  • @the_giant01
    @the_giant01 Před rokem

    but what do you think about the lasting ?

  • @jrbling25
    @jrbling25 Před rokem +1

    I am still very much considering this now in jan 2023 honestly - the recent release of m2 pro mini though is enticing, and part of me wants to hold out to what the m2 or m3 version of this larger imac will be. But i've been using a late 2013 imac for photo work, so im certainly not as 'needy' as many creators and anything will be an upgrade

    • @RealtyWebDesigners
      @RealtyWebDesigners Před 9 měsíci

      Get an iMac Pro - They're super cheap now and you won't regret it.

  • @Mr.AIFella
    @Mr.AIFella Před rokem

    I'm wrongdoing where did you get this table that under the iMac pro?

  • @robbristow
    @robbristow Před rokem

    Love my 27" 2019 iMac 8 core i9 with 2TB storage. My 2010 iMac is still going well but has problems with video creation! Currently being used to digitise all my old VHS videos.

  • @johnmotsinger2077
    @johnmotsinger2077 Před rokem +2

    Just snagged a 8 core, 1 TB, 64gb, and Vega 64 for under $1500. I am happy to have this as my last intel mac.

  • @maclock101
    @maclock101 Před rokem

    Yes, you are right. But - if you rendering or gaming on your iMac Pro you have a "Jet-Fan-Plane" on the desk.
    And if anyone buy a used iMac Pro jet, what is in the next year when the m2 and m3 released.
    Next point is energy consumption, what is getting more importent.

  • @tomscott88
    @tomscott88 Před rokem

    What about the 2020 imac instead? The 10 core can be had for about £1800 and is faster in quite a few areas than the 8 and 10 core iMac Pro’s

  • @liquidlogic7426
    @liquidlogic7426 Před rokem

    I think a key selling point is the universal compatibility with apps that have not yet been adapted to Apple Silicon which makes it very good for developers or people who still want to work on cyber security and other stuff

  • @tjmbv8680
    @tjmbv8680 Před rokem

    The studio display's mic sounds more compressed compared to the iMac Pro.

  • @jadenamber8378
    @jadenamber8378 Před 22 dny

    I think the 2019 27" i9 iMac was an insane deal. Fastest single-core performance at the time. Eight cores. Vega 48 8GB, 64GB Ram, etc. and can be had for $1200. Not too shabby.

  • @solartribal7273
    @solartribal7273 Před 10 měsíci

    Good day, all. I would like to share my experience with "high-end iMac". I bought a 27'' ( regular iMac ) in October 2021 just a few months before they stop selling it and before they introduced mac studio with m1max. The spec of my iMac was, intel i7, 64 gigs of RAM and that fancy Radeon card with 16 gigs of VRAM. Just 6 months after purchase, Apple changes my display because of heating vapour marks on it. One year after, the replaced display started to show those marks again. I went back to Apple and they gave me a mac studio with m2 max as a replacement. All I was doing with that iMac when it comes to graphics is playing Xplane 11 on average details. IMac could not cool properly and all that heat damaged both displays.

  • @baconfister
    @baconfister Před rokem

    I did in fact purchase one a month ago. 3.2GHz 8-core with 64GB of RAM, 2TB SSD, and Radeon Vega 64 Pro 16GB graphics card. This was a much needed upgrade from my long-in-the-tooth late 2012 3.2GHz 4-core Mac Pro with an added 8GB Radeon RX-580 and 16GB of RAM. Did what I could with that machine to speed it up, but I have been seen exponential performance gains from the 2017 iMac Pro. Very happy with this purchase, of which I believe I paid $3,100 for on eBay. I added an external PCIe breakout box with 500W powersupply and a non-pro version of the Radeon Vega 64 8GB graphics card. This thing smokes through the heaviest Photoshop workloads as well as video editing and rendering. Worthy investment. Grab yours today before the prices go up again (because hoarders- toilet paper, US minted coins, etc.).

  • @RMX.Studio
    @RMX.Studio Před rokem +1

    the other big plus for iMac Pro is upgradability, of course it's a quite finicky process, but it's worth the effort.. up to 512GB memory+8tb internal storage+18core cpu👀..

  • @pearelectronics3083
    @pearelectronics3083 Před rokem +2

    Weather you like it or not x86 intel macs are compelling for a lot of people even in the upper midrange to high end, we are still waiting for duel m1 ultra Mac pros apple

  • @mikaelbiilmann6826
    @mikaelbiilmann6826 Před rokem

    Those bezels are amazing! They're even bigger (or seem like it because of the smaller screen) on my 21.5" iMac. 😁

  • @happybackchiropractic

    Yes I would. And this type of video is classic Luke Miani; Providing a valuable resource to his subscribers to become better educated and informed shoppers for their Apple products 😎

  • @symlexbrn5396
    @symlexbrn5396 Před rokem

    I use a CAD software for 3D modeling on a 2017 iMac 3.0 GHz Quad core with dedicated graphics with no problem, I bought it cheap on ebay before swapping for an SSD, it runs very well.

  • @dsmith5940
    @dsmith5940 Před rokem +1

    I upgraded my 2019 i5 based 27inch iMac (non-Pro) to a 9900K, 128Gb RAM and a sick NVMe SSD; Windows 10 on another SSD in a TB3 external enclosure; and a Radeon 6800XT as an eGPU. It smashes more or less anything - awesome

    • @pedroblancou
      @pedroblancou Před 3 měsíci

      HI, how you upgraded the GPU?

    • @bigshoe84
      @bigshoe84 Před 20 dny

      @@pedroblancouit’s in an external enclosure

  • @CannedFunkMusic
    @CannedFunkMusic Před rokem

    The mic and speakers on the iMac Pro is way fuller than on the studio display. It’s probably because of the thinness. I’m able to hear the difference from my iPad Air 5.

  • @Applecompuser
    @Applecompuser Před rokem

    Love these videos. Thanks for making them. You are in the real world and are conscious of value like me.

  • @sfagan65
    @sfagan65 Před 5 měsíci

    Got two iMac pros on eBay each less than $1000. These things rock. Duel boot, and a 5K monitor with plenty of horsepower. It don’t get no better.

  • @OlexandrIgnatov
    @OlexandrIgnatov Před rokem

    I’m still owning the iMac Pro 2017 and now added the MacBook Pro M1 Pro to the family! The iMac Pro is a monster of a machine to these days!

  • @gvgnumber1
    @gvgnumber1 Před rokem

    I bought a refurbished iMac Pro w/ Vega 56 & 10-core three months ago from some IT guys out of a school near me. The speakers sound bad and even have a delay, but I paid $1350 for it and can spend that saved money on speakers if I cared. Best machine you can have from Apple that runs Bootcamp.

  • @TechGently
    @TechGently Před měsícem

    I still love mine, it's the only AIO Apple with 27". and it does anything a Mac can do, and it works well.

  • @oscarhernandezjr4012
    @oscarhernandezjr4012 Před rokem

    From my perspective, the microphone definitely sounded better on the 5 year old iMac Pro. I'm on my iPhone, perhaps that's why idk...
    Thx for all your great videos.

  • @Waldron-Yr1578
    @Waldron-Yr1578 Před měsícem

    Audiofrom the camera, Sounded much better than the studio + the speakersalso sound great