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  • @devindykstra
    @devindykstra Před 3 lety +3105

    It's been a while since I've heard Linus compliment a webcam

  • @jimitSoni
    @jimitSoni Před 3 lety +1155

    " Costs an ARM and a leg"
    Never been so accurate

    • @doxydoxdelamanca9902
      @doxydoxdelamanca9902 Před 3 lety +5

      Intel Xeon powered iMac: hold my pins.

    • @fred-youtube
      @fred-youtube Před 3 lety

      The Raspberry Pi has an ARM but it doesnt cost an ARM and a leg

    • @isaacbenson1631
      @isaacbenson1631 Před 3 lety +6

      TheLightSilent apparently the arm iMacs are going to be quite powerful it’s not your average arm cpu like that in a raspberry pi it’s a completely different format the developer kit using the cpu from the iPad Pro is supposedly more powerful then most current intel macs

    • @blaynestaleypro
      @blaynestaleypro Před 3 lety +8

      @@thelightsilent you think Apple is going to use what they've been using? They're going to create the world's first desktop class ARM processor. First yet again. And to be as powerful as an x86 you need basically half the clock speed more or less. x86 are inefficient trash that should have been thrown out to the curb years ago.

    • @Sup_D
      @Sup_D Před 3 lety +3

      @@fred-youtube Raspberry Pi and Apple are two different Companies. You can't compare there business policies.
      So, its sure that Apple's ARM based system would cost more than what an Intel based system would have costed.

  • @gentoouser4361
    @gentoouser4361 Před 3 lety +1431

    My school: "I'll take your entire stock"

    • @rubiconnn
      @rubiconnn Před 3 lety +215

      School: Cuts funding for every activity except sports, cuts teacher salaries, serves shitty cheap Aramark food.
      Also schoo: Buys a ton of new overpriced iMacs.

    • @realazee
      @realazee Před 3 lety +53

      Rubiconnn schools purchase iMacs at a HUGE discount, usually around ~400-600 per machine

    • @DeeSnow97
      @DeeSnow97 Před 3 lety +67

      @@realazee that still prices it higher than a reasonable PC at equivalent specs (but on a mainstream CPU instead of a Xeon for no reason), plus non-apple PCs tend to not expire in two years

    • @aronseptianto8142
      @aronseptianto8142 Před 3 lety +44

      i seriously question the working of the school executive
      what will they get buying overpriced computer?
      they're schools, what do you expect your student to do on school PC
      is this a marketing point for them? that their school is too snobbish to buy entry level PC with an SSD and an APU in it?
      and just for the americans out there, why do y'all seems to have a problem with wages, y'all sounded like a third world country runned by oligarch at this point

    • @gam3rmom3nt3
      @gam3rmom3nt3 Před 3 lety

      @@aronseptianto8142 the only point would be cad

  • @MaddieFrankX
    @MaddieFrankX Před 3 lety +417

    "Finally the webcam and microphone have been upraged!"
    How bad was it to call this an upgrade?!

    • @robertp457
      @robertp457 Před 3 lety +61

      Especially on a premium priced product.

    • @ridwan9610
      @ridwan9610 Před 3 lety +23

      @@robertp457 yeah, we can buy a custom equivalant pc and also get a dslr for webcam with the same price

    • @TheRealBOBlibob
      @TheRealBOBlibob Před 3 lety +6

      It was really bad. You can see a huge difference in the comparison Jonathan Morrison made on his channel

    • @svpracer98
      @svpracer98 Před 3 lety +1

      720p...

    • @FlyboyHelosim
      @FlyboyHelosim Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah it still looked, and certainly sounded, shit.

  • @AbhirupTapadar
    @AbhirupTapadar Před 3 lety +1415

    "The experience of buying a brand new machine that's dead on arrival. And I think that's really special. Just like I think our sponsor, Ridge, is special!" Yeah Linus, I don't think Ridge is going to be too happy about that segue... 😅

    • @maxpoweroverdrive
      @maxpoweroverdrive Před 3 lety +27

      Ya, I don't like Ridge wallets!

    • @iyousef46
      @iyousef46 Před 3 lety +17

      It's technically the truth 😂

    • @mynxeram
      @mynxeram Před 3 lety +105

      $110 for a wallet is as special as apples pricing model

    • @Mart-E12
      @Mart-E12 Před 3 lety +1

      Can wallets be dead

    • @maxpoweroverdrive
      @maxpoweroverdrive Před 3 lety +16

      @@idot2963 I'm not saying the price is to high, but the experience and "wellbeing of the cards" after using it for 2years, taught me, my old leather wallet is much better, cheaper.

  • @ryana391
    @ryana391 Před 3 lety +586

    I like how his hairstyle randomly changed once the intro ended lol

  • @xHadesStamps
    @xHadesStamps Před 3 lety +74

    "How much better does this look and sound?" Uh...You were using a professional camera and microphone preceding and succeeding that clip, so...a lot worse.

    • @utubekullanicisi
      @utubekullanicisi Před 3 lety +3

      Lol yeah. But the webcam upgrade is still pretty decent. It has an improved 1080p webcam over the last 720p one and it uses Apple’s image processing for the front camera for the iPhone 7.

  • @stalman
    @stalman Před 3 lety +414

    I can see you guys have been stepping up the lighting and camera work lately, looks great! If your DP sees this comment I'd love to know which diffusion you're using there 😅

    • @harizone
      @harizone Před 3 lety +6

      Eyy, didn't expect you to see here! 😁

    • @Ben.N
      @Ben.N Před 3 lety +31

      Double penetration?!

    • @stalman
      @stalman Před 3 lety +42

      @@Ben.N expand your horizons

    • @stalman
      @stalman Před 3 lety +10

      @@harizone 👋🏼

    • @legendaryblaze817
      @legendaryblaze817 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Ben.N Exactly.

  • @henrywaters
    @henrywaters Před 3 lety +1845

    “Dead on arrival, just like I think of our sponsor, Ridge wallet.”

    • @ramathiam6592
      @ramathiam6592 Před 3 lety +30

      Lmao

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem Před 3 lety +9

      Ray Zhao
      The Fresh books app, you have clients?
      why you need linus?

    • @benfoley6472
      @benfoley6472 Před 3 lety +4

      thats what i thought too lmfao

    • @nics129
      @nics129 Před 3 lety +15

      I scrolled down to the comment as soon as I heard that haha

    • @pspcow
      @pspcow Před 3 lety +22

      A cheap generic leather wallet is better than a metal clip

  • @3Black.1Red
    @3Black.1Red Před 3 lety +401

    Old video title: "The best iMac yet is the worst Mac to buy
    "
    Seems fine to me. why the change?

    • @oldman0
      @oldman0 Před 3 lety +14

      they always change the title

    • @oorjitmishra8521
      @oorjitmishra8521 Před 3 lety +122

      They create good video titles for subscribers then change them to clickbait for YT trending and stuff.

    • @xirma377
      @xirma377 Před 3 lety +3

      @@oorjitmishra8521 Interesting.

    • @jlu
      @jlu Před 3 lety +9

      Ikr seems like passive gaslighting

    • @glasscube
      @glasscube Před 3 lety +54

      @@jlu Don't blame the players blame the game, this is the kind of stuff you have to do to beat the google algos

  • @GavinAnderegg
    @GavinAnderegg Před 3 lety +101

    I guess I get where Linus is going here... but basically his theme is: upgrade to the new platform immediately, or you'll be left behind. My issue with this is that there's a lot of software that isn't going to be ARM native for a while. Getting an x86 machine now means compatibility with *existing* software for a while. This is important for some folks. I bought a PowerMac G5 at the beginning of the Intel transition, and I was happy with it for 5 years. I think it'll be similar this time around as well.

    • @DerDudelino
      @DerDudelino Před 3 lety +6

      Yeah just look at Microsoft. They failed to run ARM Windows for years. I am sure Apples own apps will run beautifully but Adobe and the others will have a tough time adapting. Plus: No more Bootcamp Windows on iMac.

    • @LyricsFred
      @LyricsFred Před 3 lety +4

      The world is very very different now, like linus said, the new mac's will be able to run ipad and iphone apps, for developers that means that they only have to make one app that will run in 3 different OS's what's the incentive to keep x86 apps for too long.

    • @DerDudelino
      @DerDudelino Před 3 lety +10

      @@LyricsFred They are just iOS apps, so dumbed down versions. Photoshop for iOS is far away from the professional product.

    • @acehindiephoto
      @acehindiephoto Před 3 lety +7

      @@LyricsFred what's important about x86 ? All full versions of professional apps for the moment only works on x86 that's why Microsoft surface pro x failed.

    • @jwillis35
      @jwillis35 Před 3 lety +3

      The new iMac is a seriously good machine and is a good buy for those who want one. It will be supported for at least 3 to 4 years, and who cares if you use it longer. If it works, it works.

  • @jozh7138
    @jozh7138 Před 3 lety +6

    I really like the level of quality linus's videos have become lately

  • @aditjindal
    @aditjindal Před 3 lety +105

    "Costs an ARM and leg."
    LMAO

    • @CricketEngland
      @CricketEngland Před 3 lety +1

      Yea well Apple have been ripping off its customers since the late 70’s 😀😅

  • @Revolve-Studios
    @Revolve-Studios Před 3 lety +420

    That bezel tho.. straight outta 2010

    • @MHWGamer
      @MHWGamer Před 3 lety +38

      even in 2014 or so I thought that the bezels are just too ugly and big. As apple (and their users) always say that they care for the look, I have never got why people buy the imac

    • @ThinkCleverAndSmart
      @ThinkCleverAndSmart Před 3 lety +6

      Actually even 2009 lol. Let's see what the ARM iMac will look like

    • @squeakers27
      @squeakers27 Před 3 lety

      I agree with you on that, it's ashame they are still using the old design but didn't make the bezels smaller as they look quite thick.

    • @chudthug
      @chudthug Před 3 lety +5

      My fucking school chromebook has smaller bezels

    • @ThinkCleverAndSmart
      @ThinkCleverAndSmart Před 3 lety +6

      @@chudthug A lot of CRT TVs have thinner bezels lol

  • @user-gb4iv7yd5i
    @user-gb4iv7yd5i Před 3 lety

    0:39 I watched the full thing in one sitting. Very informative, straight to the point, conversational. Thank you.

  • @usptact
    @usptact Před 3 lety +4

    Upgrading from iMac 27” 2017 to 2020 iMac 27” was a great speed up in code builds and running all those hefty Docker containers.

  • @adili9427
    @adili9427 Před 3 lety +48

    Whenever you show a webcam's prowess, show an alternative so we can see a comparison. We're just looking at it straight after your 8K Reds.

  • @abelbrites9592
    @abelbrites9592 Před 3 lety +364

    Linus: rat nest hair and socks with sandals
    Every girl's dream: . . .

    • @theshadowman1398
      @theshadowman1398 Před 3 lety +70

      His bank account is every girl’s dream.

    • @NetMan_PL
      @NetMan_PL Před 3 lety +2

      me meanwhile: czcams.com/video/PayvWj2piKg/video.html

    • @wilduu
      @wilduu Před 3 lety +2

      @Johnnys Tech Tips you're lying that's a legit link. everyone should click on it.

    • @ThirstysURL
      @ThirstysURL Před 3 lety +3

      He isn't allowed anything anyway His wife would scowl at him forever and make his life not worth living.
      The best part about being a man is freedom.

    • @anarchyantz1564
      @anarchyantz1564 Před 3 lety +2

      You forgot to mention bulging wallet with a net worth so far about 25 Million Canadian shekels and about 3.8 million a year just from YT advertising. Its enough to make anyone, male or female wet......

  • @boomish69
    @boomish69 Před 3 lety +2

    Best review I’ve seen for ages , this is exactly why I’m not planning on upgrading anytime soon..

  • @nicolfilm
    @nicolfilm Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks Linus for the great memories of buying a G5 right before Intel in 2005. Changed to windows after and not looked back.

  • @rayyanshaikh5591
    @rayyanshaikh5591 Před 3 lety +330

    Linus: "webcam is FINALLY good!"
    Webcam: *4 fps*

    • @keco185
      @keco185 Před 3 lety +19

      It's a 30 fps webcam

    • @Wahinies
      @Wahinies Před 3 lety +7

      I hate to see what his idea of a bad webcam is

    • @blacbraun
      @blacbraun Před 3 lety +17

      @@Wahinies 480p on the old 12 inch Macbook is a good example of bad webcam for sure.

    • @jpxyUA
      @jpxyUA Před 3 lety +18

      funny how we can deepfake faceswap and it looks more real than a 30fps webcam footage on a 2020 device

    • @xx-----------xx873
      @xx-----------xx873 Před 3 lety +11

      It’s just that we are looking from RED 8k downsampled to a 1080p camera.

  • @KeeperOfKale222
    @KeeperOfKale222 Před 3 lety +345

    LTT: “The worst Mac to buy”
    Me: *Cries in 2010 iMac*

    • @Prodzick
      @Prodzick Před 3 lety +11

      Your patience will be rewarded.

    • @BenchClips
      @BenchClips Před 3 lety +6

      Me cries with “broken” pc with only i3 7100 no gpu

    • @BenchClips
      @BenchClips Před 3 lety +2

      Which I bought for £600 2-3 years ago

    • @PackardKotch
      @PackardKotch Před 3 lety +3

      2010 macbook white over here

    • @Ravenousjoe
      @Ravenousjoe Před 3 lety +7

      You got 10 years out of it, clearly a pretty god little machine. I just sold a 2008 MBP with just a ram and ssd upgrade, and using it (never owned a Mac before) was actually kinda nice. I liked the little system, but I have no need for a dual core laptop in my home, so it found itself an apple fan to take care of it.

  • @septic_eye_revolution7603

    iMac 27' with the Retina 5K-display is truly the great workstation for the professional Python/Swift/Java developers or even for editing the 4K or the 8K-resolution videos, the Photoshop, The 3D Graphics, the VR experience and all the other apps! Thanks for the great video, Linus! Apple will give a great example to the other Tech companies if they actually decide to support their Intel-based Macs for year to come just like the announced M1-processor computers on the Special Event!

  • @starfall5093
    @starfall5093 Před 3 lety

    I'm always watching your videos and it gives me knowledge about computers even though I don't have my own. But still Its mportant to be knowledgeable about new technologies

  • @lebaguette7392
    @lebaguette7392 Před 3 lety +404

    Linus goes silent for a second
    Everyone: he's going to talk about the sponsor and isn't he
    Linus: BUY THE RIDGE WALLET

  • @BrokenHeart000
    @BrokenHeart000 Před 3 lety +166

    *“Costs an ARM and a leg”* is the Intro Title of this video.

    • @aadisahni
      @aadisahni Před 3 lety +5

      Oh wow, you can see. Damn, I can't see anything

    • @xx-----------xx873
      @xx-----------xx873 Před 3 lety +1

      Nope, I reckon it would be better than the current intel offerings. They have complete and utter control over it, with no ME to worry about.

  • @alexanderorlins641
    @alexanderorlins641 Před 3 lety +2

    Just bought the 2020 27in 10-core iMac. I'll get back to you in a couple years!

  • @himher9073
    @himher9073 Před 3 lety +1

    A thought worth considering is to use a card board, yes cardboard mod to solve the heating issues.
    Back in the old old old days of the 512k Mac / Mac Plus a genuine genius came up with a cardboard top hat that effectively quadrupled airflow, and thus cooling absolutely silently. And yes it looked just like a top hat chimney.
    Add in some exterior mounted heat sinks within the airflow envelope and the problem may end up becoming too much cooling.

  • @joejoe324
    @joejoe324 Před 3 lety +249

    "You will get about 2 years of enjoyable experience give or take a year" So one year.

    • @TheLongIslanderYT
      @TheLongIslanderYT Před 3 lety +13

      1 - 3 years

    • @jimitSoni
      @jimitSoni Před 3 lety +9

      6 months
      Take it or leave it

    • @dawfurby
      @dawfurby Před 3 lety +2

      Not true, more like 6-7. It’s for as long as Apple supports the 2020 iMac.

    • @ned_filip6728
      @ned_filip6728 Před 3 lety +14

      @@dawfurby its about usability, not for how long its supported

    • @Henry_Jr_Watsson
      @Henry_Jr_Watsson Před 3 lety +13

      @@dawfurby Apple did only for 3 years when they switched from PowerPC to Intel. So, their track-record is concerning.

  • @enzdude
    @enzdude Před 3 lety +16

    Love it or hate it, the fact that the iMac kept the same general design for 13 years is pretty impressive.

  • @tempts7270
    @tempts7270 Před 3 lety +62

    My school: something’s right, I can feel it

    • @ampere7220
      @ampere7220 Před 3 lety +1

      Mine is still using Cinema Displays and old Mac Pro..

    • @EpicB
      @EpicB Před 3 lety +1

      My school was still using Windows XP until 2015 or 2016. I know the art teacher had an iMac but I don't know whose money that was on. We certainly didn't hand out MacBooks too all the students though.

    • @engineergaming4295
      @engineergaming4295 Před 3 lety

      In my school we just use shitty base model chomebooks, while the teachers use 2010 MacBook pros

  • @fourdee4d
    @fourdee4d Před 3 lety

    Linus and Ant. Thank you Sir's. Welcome back.
    We need it.

  • @navneethramesh7422
    @navneethramesh7422 Před 3 lety +118

    2:40
    Wait
    Di-Di Did Linus just compliment a we- we- webcam.
    "Woah that's something I did not see coming in the video"

  • @Mitch_tr
    @Mitch_tr Před 3 lety +12

    All was looking forward for the new vids every day! Every one is amazing. Thank you for the tech tips I am able to build my own system

  • @chugalingus4642
    @chugalingus4642 Před 3 lety +1

    I hope chad linus never goes away, looking at old videos im surprised he didnt do this sooner

  • @mrmaddoxp
    @mrmaddoxp Před 3 lety +1

    I plan on using my 2008 unibody Mac as long as possible. I love that thing.

  • @Afterlifesinner
    @Afterlifesinner Před 3 lety +58

    4:19, the arrows make no sense.
    it should be [Apple Silicon -/-> Intel CPU] when the prior statement [Intel App --> Apple Silicon] is true.

    • @danb3785
      @danb3785 Před 3 lety +3

      Rosetta 2 allows you to run an Intel binary on Apple Silicon through instruction translation. It doesn’t work the other way, but also it doesn’t need to as it’s just there to support legacy binaries.

    • @dish9849
      @dish9849 Před 3 lety +4

      @@lightningcat6382 is apple cpu can read intel apps but Intel CPU can't read apple apps

    • @danb3785
      @danb3785 Před 3 lety

      Lightning Cat I see what you mean. I was confused because the OP left out “App”. The banned arrow is pointing the wrong way.

  • @true8325
    @true8325 Před 3 lety +23

    2:42 Well, there's the teleprompter.

    • @ofecto
      @ofecto Před 3 lety +3

      6:13 funny how he pronounced chamfered “Camfered”. Typo on the tele or Linus can’t read good ?

  • @sergioguerrero7613
    @sergioguerrero7613 Před 3 lety +1

    So.... is it a good idea to buy this iMac (the base one) or better wait for 2021 version

  • @ngthav
    @ngthav Před 3 lety

    alway love ltt review because they al way talk about pro&con not just pro

  • @Hidskb
    @Hidskb Před 3 lety +173

    WAIT HE CHANGED THE TITLE!!
    It used to be: the worst iMac to buy is the best one
    But now it’s: the WORST iMac to buy

    • @jimitSoni
      @jimitSoni Před 3 lety +2

      Nope. He didn't

    • @jmporkbob
      @jmporkbob Před 3 lety +2

      it got changed back to the original title. so it changed twice lol.

    • @toasty648
      @toasty648 Před 3 lety

      jmporkbob and back again

    • @berengerchristy6256
      @berengerchristy6256 Před 3 lety +1

      Algorithm shenanigans. I believe in one of their explanations they use a more provocative title to get some people and then change it so something more informative for their regular viewers

    • @somewhatBoring
      @somewhatBoring Před 3 lety +2

      @@jmporkbob changex 3 times

  • @antan2329
    @antan2329 Před 3 lety +26

    I have like a 6 year old one. Playing games is a nightmare. Just waiting to see if they do ROG rig reboot this year

    • @luigi6835
      @luigi6835 Před 3 lety

      Most likely no, covid is the problem

    • @realhuman7911
      @realhuman7911 Před 3 lety

      I have a good video idea for the reboot

    • @tommegg8486
      @tommegg8486 Před 3 lety

      @METhOdhowtoKilLnoObS better yet Linux, it's super competitive nowadays.

  • @retrotech2020
    @retrotech2020 Před 3 lety

    Watching this and literally the first advert up was for the Samsung S21. Brilliant.

  • @luiscardenas8816
    @luiscardenas8816 Před 3 lety +4

    Remember when Linus read mean comments and someone said something about his hair and his defense was that he had no idea what to do with it? I believe him.

  • @Novit_
    @Novit_ Před 3 lety +86

    Nobody:
    Apple: *u wanna buy a monitor and a stand 1500$ each??*

    • @lebryantjohnson7306
      @lebryantjohnson7306 Před 3 lety +3

      lmao I didnt get that. Sure its free advertisement but like cmon doesn't that add to the negative expensive greedy stigma surrounding apple?

    • @eclpse9314
      @eclpse9314 Před 3 lety +1

      old meme, still funny

    • @BeastMode070subscribe
      @BeastMode070subscribe Před 3 lety

      Bruh atleast watch the whole video

    • @clickbaitpro
      @clickbaitpro Před 3 lety +1

      @Gravity Yup, my 10 years old PC still works

    • @godnessy
      @godnessy Před 3 lety +2

      millions of morons: pls please! can you make it more expensive while lagging behind the innovation industry by years and telling me its cutting edge???

  • @solomioist
    @solomioist Před 3 lety +11

    2:42 LTT you disappoint me. There should be some jokes on the teleprompter.

  • @markflo8412
    @markflo8412 Před 3 lety +12

    Just got one and love it!

  • @jesga0
    @jesga0 Před 3 lety +4

    "-It just works!"
    *_-Linus Howard, 2020_*

  • @hareeshs86
    @hareeshs86 Před 3 lety +104

    I've never heard Linus so tired/uninterested in a device. Might just be a rough day, but nevertheless, damn.

    • @night1wind
      @night1wind Před 3 lety +11

      Exactly what I thought! Something was off the whole video!!

    • @em8824
      @em8824 Před 3 lety +14

      He seemed ill.

    • @UserTenNumbers
      @UserTenNumbers Před 3 lety +2

      Get well soon bud.

    • @larsvegas1505
      @larsvegas1505 Před 3 lety +36

      well its a apple product.. its hard to get exited about those.. its a decent package.. but nothing new.. and then u got the price..

    • @hareeshs86
      @hareeshs86 Před 3 lety

      @@larsvegas1505 yeah but then he'd be visibly frustrated, not tired? That, or he's just given up Apple to make something he'd like, and we're looking at a defeated Linus 😂

  • @ksrtckingmaga
    @ksrtckingmaga Před 3 lety +71

    4:18 the arrows both show intel to arm linus.

    • @ahmadhalabiah3714
      @ahmadhalabiah3714 Před 3 lety +1

      6⃣ 9⃣ OMG

    • @Dornacgove
      @Dornacgove Před 3 lety +2

      But one is from intel CPU and other from intel compatible APPs

    • @ksrtckingmaga
      @ksrtckingmaga Před 3 lety +1

      @@Dornacgove He said "rosetta 2 only goes one way". only intel to arm, not the other way

    • @FOGoticus
      @FOGoticus Před 3 lety +1

      I'm glad I was not the only one. I was so confused.

    • @SteveGamesOnline
      @SteveGamesOnline Před 3 lety +3

      @@ksrtckingmaga He said you can run an Intel application on an arm based processor, but you can't run an arm application on an intel based processor. Please read it more carefully.

  • @anch95
    @anch95 Před 3 lety +4

    0:38
    I'm not too sure Ridgewallet would be happy with that segway.

  • @robbret
    @robbret Před 3 lety +5

    God dammit, I've been putting off replacing my aging late 2013 iMac for years. And now this.

    • @Viper-dn8ix
      @Viper-dn8ix Před 3 lety

      Hey don't go after the 2013 iMac's like that. They're beastly machines for being eight years old!
      Well... If you don't do professional work I guess. I didn't think of that, my bad!!

  • @martonwapper
    @martonwapper Před 3 lety +8

    1:01 My google assistant came on! lol 😂

  • @keco185
    @keco185 Před 3 lety +5

    9:30 to be fair, that was during a time when there were significant year-over-year processor improvements that meant the older Macs might not have had the processing power to run the newer OS in the manner apple intended.

    • @brrebrresen1367
      @brrebrresen1367 Před 3 lety

      well... the G4 macbooks maybe, but the dual cpu desktop G5's where not that outdated just 3 years later, though they still had the same problem as when they launched... the G5 costed to much and where just to noisy.
      though at least did they know that the heat-sink maybe should have contact with the cpu back then, something Apple suddenly have forgotten on the last year...
      but when it comes to future support, forget it. Apple have never been much future proof with exception of iphone 6, but that have more been down to iOS require less and that they had to have an cheaper option for customers that could not pay put 800++£ on an phone every year.
      OSX 10.5, the last one supporting PPC and released in 2009 is today in fact in many cases more limited in more up to date software than Windows ME\98SE is...
      (example: last browser for 10.5 is from 2014 with Chrome 25 or Opera 26, Safari updates was cut in 2011 just 2 years after launch. Opera 28 was last for Windows 9x launched in 2015 and will work even on an Windows 95! PC)

    • @johngaltline9933
      @johngaltline9933 Před 3 lety

      The issue was never being able to run new stuff on old Macs for most power PC users. It was that all your old software ceased to function in 2009. I still run a machine on 10.6 so that I can use programs that I can't otherwise use.

  • @Zoolookuk
    @Zoolookuk Před 3 lety

    One thing to bear in mind, is that although Snow Leopard was Intel Only (offering performance increases and other benefits) the previous OS, Leopard got most of the same updates (like the new Safari). Also Leopard received security updates right up until 2013. So Apple didn't "drop support" for PowerPC 3 years after the first Intel Macs, it was 7 years later, and that was with a much smaller userbase that they have now.

  • @omergulcu
    @omergulcu Před 3 lety

    Your new style rocks.

  • @La8ghost
    @La8ghost Před 3 lety +97

    0:00 So Apple sponsored Linus to tell his viewers to buy Macs
    0:36 Oh wait nevermind.

  • @TangoTim4
    @TangoTim4 Před 3 lety +5

    I remember the whole powerPC move ... cost me about 5k in software I had to re-buy (around 10k at today's prices of that software) .... because the wonderful folks didn't let you update/upgrade & some just didn't offer one & then there were several companies that just didn't exist by then so SOL to you.

    • @jyoungbr549
      @jyoungbr549 Před 3 lety

      My guess is that you will have to do it again when their new processors hit the market since they are dropping intel and switching to ARM architecture in the next gen macs.

  • @agenericaccount3935
    @agenericaccount3935 Před 3 lety +4

    This review reminds me of every middle management compliment sandwich laden employment review ever. "Hey great job on the Manchester account but you need to stop taking dumps in the lunchroom garbage can. Also, your attendance is spotless"

  • @AlvaroQF
    @AlvaroQF Před 3 lety

    I have had a MBP Late 2008 until now and it still works great, I’ll wait a couple of years more, i mean, if it does not break, which i doubt that will happen.

  • @calebkrauter4027
    @calebkrauter4027 Před 3 lety +3

    Loved the intro Linus! XD

  • @johnj8639
    @johnj8639 Před 3 lety +89

    Finally a real review, all the apple tubers basically said to just buy it, even dave2d, which was a little of a surprise.

    • @robertp457
      @robertp457 Před 3 lety +22

      So many Apple enthusiasts can't see the terrible pricing.

    • @tanmayjaiswal5935
      @tanmayjaiswal5935 Před 3 lety +29

      I was extremely extremely disappointed when Dave dropped that nonsensical review that said it doesn't matter, just buy this now. That was such shit. I'm glad at least someone significant is highlighting the shit that apple is trying to pull with this iMac.

    • @CorporateShill66
      @CorporateShill66 Před 3 lety +1

      @@tanmayjaiswal5935 Oh yea buy it even if you bought one last year, because a computer doesn't last more than a year these days XD

    • @pirojfmifhghek566
      @pirojfmifhghek566 Před 3 lety +5

      @@robertp457 I think it's safe to say that all Apple enthusiasts have their head in the sand to some degree. You'd think that some of them would do a little research into the devices they worship. The build quality just gets worse and worse. The thermals are horrendous. Close your eyes and click on any Louis Rossmann video and in five minutes anyone would become unreasonably angry about how poorly soldered and engineered these things are.
      I can't think of any type of consumer who has a real need for a mac. Having a tablet + keyboard does almost all of the same stuff that people use their computers for daily. For anyone who wants a desktop in the mid-range, spending ten minutes clicking around on pcpartpicker will save them at least two grand. Professionals who need bigass beefcake computers can get an insane amount of mileage out of a simple threadripper build and probably save ten grand. They wouldn't have to worry about this legacy software nightmare either. It's not like switching from Intel to AMD makes Windows stop working in a traditional setup.
      Any studio sitting on $100k+ of Apple computers must have so much poop in their pants now. Half the programs their employees use every day will no longer receive updates until they replace the whole fleet. And after they buy those new ARM Macs... well, now half the third party software that their employees rely on are completely broken until they provide an update, if those developers are even working on a port. What an expensive logistical nightmare.
      Anytime I see Apple products being sold I feel like I'm watching someone getting beaten and mugged in an alley.

    • @exod4
      @exod4 Před 3 lety +1

      Your first mistake was watching an "apple tuber"

  • @GEOSynths
    @GEOSynths Před 3 lety

    I've just bought the 10 Core 2020 iMac and have fully thought about the updated versions coming up, however I got it to replace my 2017 3.5ghz i5 which has been fine, just not been able to handle Live Streaming with Guests. In Wirecast and having Logic open as well as Browser Tabs, I was hitting 90%+ CPU with my 2017 and only 720p, but the same with my 10 Core is about 9% with streaming at 1080p. So, it's the real world benefits, right now is what matters to me. As for how it looks, I couldn't give a Monkeys, it just replaces the space the old one was, same connections and migrated over. Back up and running in a day.

  • @angelagould1290
    @angelagould1290 Před 3 lety

    Very knowledgeable

  • @lomelyo
    @lomelyo Před 3 lety +3

    iOS apps have run natively on Mac for years thanks to XCode. This is the case for Mac apps too, with a few API exceptions. I honestly doubt that things will change a lot. XCode is in a much different state than when PowerPc was launched.

  • @aguyyoudontknow7090
    @aguyyoudontknow7090 Před 3 lety +73

    The experience of wasting a lot of money

  • @MoiFidodido1966
    @MoiFidodido1966 Před 3 lety

    Hey Linus got a general question for you. I'm about to build a desktop PC with the following components: Asus ROG Strix B450-F MB, MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8GB GDRR6 256-Bit GC, AMD Ryzen 7 2700X CPU and Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3200 (PC4-25600) C16 Desktop Memory. If I want to run optimal gaming config while having no intention whatsoever of doing any overclocking., do you believe that the stock cpu fan coming with the cpu will do the job or I should strongly consider buying an aftermarket CPU Air Cooler? And also is the pre-applied thermal paste ok to use?

  • @rajzkhadgi7308
    @rajzkhadgi7308 Před 3 lety

    At the beginning of the video I got an ad from Pulseway which had Linus in it and it took me a while to realize it wasn't the video

  • @crogongrey4549
    @crogongrey4549 Před 3 lety +8

    10:55 'Hey you, random underling! Keep track of my beard!' 'OK boss.' ;-P

  • @Turkey_Fart
    @Turkey_Fart Před 3 lety +5

    I really love Linus with the shaggy hair and beard. It's a good look for him, ironically

  • @hugogrotius9964
    @hugogrotius9964 Před 3 lety +3

    The 2012 IMac looks allmost exactly the same... Mad.

  • @Marck1o
    @Marck1o Před 3 lety +1

    I'm still stuck with my iMac late 2009. Was a good buy at it's time.

  • @xorinzor
    @xorinzor Před 3 lety +27

    "just like our sponsor, ridge" - Fair enough, that's also an ad that's dead on arrival, given how I always skip them 🤷‍♂️

  • @nathantagg2691
    @nathantagg2691 Před 3 lety +26

    4:17 the visual is incorrect. It says that it can go from intel to apple silicon but not from intel to apple silicon

    • @antonioballesteros5520
      @antonioballesteros5520 Před 3 lety +8

      That’s not what it says it says that an intel app can run on Apple silicon cpu but an intel cpu cannot run an Apple silicon app

    • @nijelly12345
      @nijelly12345 Před 3 lety +3

      Antonio Ballesteros you’re correct but it’s still really confusing especially given how little time there is to read it

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 Před 3 lety

      nijelly12345 I watch CZcams on TiVo so I can rewind to parts I missed and skip forward past the ads.

    • @JonnyPowell
      @JonnyPowell Před 3 lety +1

      yep just like 1+1=2 is incorrect if you read it as 1+1=5

    • @lorinh2947
      @lorinh2947 Před 3 lety +1

      @Antonio Ballesteros, That's not what is says. They pointlessly flipped the second arrow.
      An exact statement of what the graph represents minus the crossed out symbol:
      A x86 Application can run on ARM hardware
      A x86 hardware can run on ARM Application -- This doesn't even make sense
      What they wanted to say probably was:
      A x86 Application can run on ARM hardware
      A ARM Application can't run on x86 Hardware
      *ARM is the technology Apple Silicon is based on. x86 is what (most) intel CPUs are based on

  • @jhinfex7368
    @jhinfex7368 Před 3 lety

    There is a prompter, but Linus is just to smooth :))

  • @shahnoorrakin5747
    @shahnoorrakin5747 Před 3 lety +2

    Watching a linus ad(pulse way) on linus' video !
    🤣

  • @Kifdy
    @Kifdy Před 3 lety +11

    "ahhh clearly worth more than pe grade" said swag goose 2020

  • @strangedotmachine9281
    @strangedotmachine9281 Před 3 lety +10

    Linus, I love your take on this. The Apple press wasn’t as honest about this. This is bad investment. Wait if you need a new Mac. The picture will become clearer toward the end of the year.

    • @ReedHarston
      @ReedHarston Před 3 lety +1

      Did you listen to his final take on this? I just bought one of these because as a Mac developer I want something I can develop on (big screen, lots of cores and RAM (that I upgraded myself)) while supporting the Intel version of my apps for as long as possible. I wanted this Mac for good reason, along with many others like me, so calling it a bad investment outright for everyone is shortsighted.
      I plan on getting an Apple Silicon laptop when they come out so I can test my apps on it (and because the benefits of moving to Apple Silicon/Arm will be much more obvious in a battery powered device), but this iMac will be my development machine for years to come.

    • @michaelottesen6143
      @michaelottesen6143 Před 3 lety

      @@ReedHarston Sorry Reed, but MOST people are NOT apple developers, so the other 99% of us will probably wait for everything to shake out.

    • @ReedHarston
      @ReedHarston Před 3 lety +1

      @@michaelottesen6143 That is fine. My point isn't that this makes sense for everybody, but that it does make sense for somebody.

  • @heygem
    @heygem Před 3 lety

    Hopefully there will be new ARM Mac Minis too.

  • @perdomot
    @perdomot Před 3 lety +1

    Anthony combed Linus' hair after the intro. LOL

    • @parv13
      @parv13 Před 3 lety

      He's been messing with his hair nowadays. Very annoying.

  • @leonthesleepy
    @leonthesleepy Před 3 lety +5

    iJustine: "whattttttttt"

  • @amicloud_yt
    @amicloud_yt Před 3 lety +8

    I love how whenever he says 'again' he goes full Canadian

    • @andrewb6241
      @andrewb6241 Před 3 lety +1

      He does the same when he says against.

  • @Mainyehc
    @Mainyehc Před 3 lety

    To be fair, there's a technique which allows to stuff a lot of Unix exectuables for different ISAs and resources into an .app package and have it run as a UB, even with notarization. So, in fact, you can have a 5-way UB (32 and 64-bit PowerPC, 32 and 64-bit x86, and 64-bit ARM) and have it run on anything from really old versions of Mac OS X to macOS Big Sur.
    The only thing that Apple took away was the nifty checkbox from XCode and whatever APIs that were deprecated, but you can still develop all those separate binaries in different versions of XCode and stitch everything together after the fact. And Rosetta, of course, but it's not like more technologically-inclined users can't get a Snow Leopard VM going. ;) About the crappiest thing about those is really the lack of Retina/Hi-DPI support and assets, something you absolutely can't fix.

  • @hwy9nightkid
    @hwy9nightkid Před 3 lety

    Linus, love the channel.. for us in music.. we are unsure if the ARM mac will even run our old VSTs, DAWs, etc... so I am quite happy to snap up my 2020 mac mini maxed out, which will hopefully let me dodge this question until 2025 and beyond

  • @give_me_my_nick_back
    @give_me_my_nick_back Před 3 lety +8

    I hope 2nd hand macs will once again become the cheaper alternative to PCs just like when they ditched ppc but then perhaps they won't lose much value as they can run Windows this time

  • @Darthquackius
    @Darthquackius Před 3 lety +55

    "You'll get about 2 years of compatability"
    So twice the amount most Apple costumers need?

    • @dankspain
      @dankspain Před 3 lety +9

      That is why you still see iPhones 6 and 6s in the wild...

    • @ChopperGunnerNL
      @ChopperGunnerNL Před 3 lety +2

      @@dankspain Proud 6s user here.

    • @hellodumplings8564
      @hellodumplings8564 Před 3 lety +2

      rogerwilco99 Bro, you’re like 1 case in many. And probably because of wrong “charging habits”. I’ve had an iPhone 6 since launch and had absolutely no issues cause I do know how to take care of my stuff.

    • @dankspain
      @dankspain Před 3 lety

      rogerwilco99 Fucking hell buddy, how did you manage to write all of that in under an hour? lol. The iPhone 6s had battery issues, I did suffer them but I had apple replace my battery at no cost. Then I gave it to my dad and he still uses it in 2020, 5 years later. He changed the battery again because the capacity left wasn’t great but never had swelling issues.

  • @jhuny
    @jhuny Před 3 lety

    2:43 Linus's transformation into the Hacksmith is coming along nicely... 😁😍

    • @jhuny
      @jhuny Před 3 lety

      11:00 NOOOOOOO!!!!! 😭

  • @ryant2568
    @ryant2568 Před 3 lety

    The problem is at the end of the day support for the older X86 architecture is going to sit with the app developers so that would mean anyone writing a program for Mac would need to effectively write 2 programs, 1 for the new ARM silicon and 1 for the old X86 and keep both of those programs updated and that is just not going to happen.

  • @joshgeurink2131
    @joshgeurink2131 Před 3 lety +5

    8:02 Straight Facts 😂

  • @chrisperry380
    @chrisperry380 Před 3 lety +4

    I needed a new Mac now, and I have to say I am beyond happy with my purchase of the 10 core i9 w/5700 xt 16gb. It's fast AF for video editing and 3d rendering. The big difference for me is I am not a tech repair guy and being on a pc setup for over 20 years wore me out. I had issues daily and I don't want to work on my computer like a car. I love that I can sit down and work and not worry about anything.

    • @yyouthcanoee
      @yyouthcanoee Před 11 měsíci

      Yep I have the same one and it blows me away. WIll keep it for years and years

  • @danielesterman440
    @danielesterman440 Před 3 lety +1

    I’ve been weighing this up as want an all in one with a great screen for photo editing. Any alternatives as currently base model is within budget at £1649

  • @joekenorer
    @joekenorer Před 3 lety

    Love the Jobs intro, well played.

  • @andymiller1597
    @andymiller1597 Před 3 lety +6

    watching this on the new 2020 imac lol

  • @suspence7207
    @suspence7207 Před 3 lety +3

    0:35 No Linus, you're special

  • @nattankress
    @nattankress Před 3 lety

    As someone who got a PowerBook G4 on 2005... I would probably wait to see how the compatibilities play out.

  • @eng-khalil
    @eng-khalil Před 3 lety +1

    Linus, your sandals are very nice. If it can survive all those episodes it's a big deal. Can you please point out where can I buy them?

  • @smoketinytom
    @smoketinytom Před 3 lety +7

    Last time I was this Early, Apple still cared about their customer base!

    • @gotioify
      @gotioify Před 3 lety +1

      @@obamasphere9950 beat me to it!

  • @slightcurve98
    @slightcurve98 Před 3 lety +10

    In the words of Bennet Foddy “Starting again is worse than starting up”

  • @snelinternet4654
    @snelinternet4654 Před 3 lety

    2:46 Autocue: "BURN TO THE IMAC"

  • @dirtdirtdirtiest9607
    @dirtdirtdirtiest9607 Před 3 lety

    I have a 2012 Macbook pro I put a 1tb SSD in and medium res photo editing and getting me through college... and it was perfect. Got a 6 core Mac Mini as a graduation present (2 months before they even announced their silicon and I NEEDED an upgrade for professional work) and the performance is [currently] more than I could've hoped for (high res content across Adobe suite, mainly)
    If it gets gimped in two years... man... that'll hurt 😢