"The Apple Studio Display is a Bad Deal"
Vložit
- čas přidán 27. 04. 2024
- Apple's Studio Display is quite an oddball in 2022...
That shirt! shop.MKBHD.com
Tech I'm using right now: www.amazon.com/shop/MKBHD
Intro Track: Jordyn Edmonds smarturl.it/jordynedmonds
Playlist of MKBHD Intro music: goo.gl/B3AWV5
Monitor provided by Apple for review.
~
/ mkbhd
/ mkbhd
/ mkbhd - Věda a technologie
Apple went out of the way to engineer the power cord to not be user removable and also engineered a special tool to remove it.
That's what Apple does best
Classic Apple.
Apple; The best company at sucking every penny out of their customers. And I'm one of them
@@user-mz3ni8yu4v same - were idiots
@@user-mz3ni8yu4v u love their products so much u dont mind they treat their customers like crap?
I love how he's avoiding "It's not a good deal" so hard and I was almost angry that he's so diplomatic, just to end the video with "No, it's not a good deal.". :D
This irritates me too when he reviews terrible products. Come on man, just say it sucks
@@SF-li9kh It doesn't suck, it's just not worth the money
"by specs of the panel is clear it's a not a good deal"
@@SF-li9kh I mean, it's in the title already
Yeah I was so irritated by the lengths he was going to to make excuses for Apple. Like you can make those same excuses about any terrible product... But then he finally admitted at the end that it's not a good deal.
The fact that Apple wants 400$ for a standard "upgrade" feature that even my old 100$ monitor had is astounding. This company is just giving every consumer the middle finger. Holy crap.
And people still defend them
@@elroxmusic blindly? he just gave you 2 reasons and left out tens of avoidable stuff apple does to make a quick buck and give the middle finger to customers, its not blind is it
My cheap Kia has more function than Ferrari F8, it doesn't even have a central display.
How the fuck is a product like this even aimed at “every consumer?” If you don’t like it then don’t buy it. I’m glad your $100 monitor fulfills your needs and you should be too. Imagine NEEDING a product like this and then being angry that an unnecessary luxury is priced appropriately.
What's your $100 monitor made of?
I think Apple fixed all of what they consider mistakes from the last display. Removable cable, removable stand, vesa mounting, any user repairability or customizability that might have snuck through
what do you mean, there is a VESA option that - unlike the PRO XDR - does not cost extra
Yet they've added it to their user repair program.......hmmm
@@reginaldbowls7180 their user repair program is as good as banging your head against the wall, this has been proven by pro repair technicians over and over again
Well, they should've soldered the power cable so that it's definitely not removable. Also, it shouldn't work with a Windows PC.
@@Chopper153 No. If it didn't work with Windows, then they should be sued.
I'm surprised they didn't offer a 'Studio stand' with cutouts allowing you to place the Mac Studio on the base of the stand and thread all the cables through it... for $399 extra dollars
Why Not $999🤔
"Sir, you're hired."
why any power cable at all? why not go beyond, and let it be powered by the thunderbold/usbc and no need for power cable at all.
@@sebastianjuppscharwachter9022
$999.99 + California tax, so that'd be around $1240.99 for a stand..
Don't give these ass-hats at Apple anymore ideas.
@@KermitOfWar That's the funny thing. That's what apple did with their prior stands a few years ago lol
The nonremovable power cable is absolutely absurd. They actually went out of their way, and spent R&D money, to design a new, worse cable when they already had multiple options for something good.
@@sys-administrator Just like iMac? an already working design? Or like literally every other monitor in the past decade? I can't remember any monitor other than old CRTs having non removable cable
@@sys-administrator This comment screams "I don't know anything about tech other than what's shoveled directly to me as true".
@@sys-administrator The option to remove and - if need be - replace it without having to take the entire monitor to an Apple store which around here requires an appointment and a couple hours of my valuable time. How would I have designed it? I would not have too. Because it has already been done. In fact Apple has done it. They actually went out of their way to make it harder on their customers. Wow. Design can have value..... Poor design can destroy it.
they definitely just want more people signing up for apple care. somehow just using a proprietary connector that allows the monitor to be extra thin wasn't enough because that would mean people could just buy a new or used cable and not have to pay apple to swap it out.
@@sys-administrator 6:55 question's literally already answered in the video.
As a professional photographer & filmmaker considering this product for my production team, this definitely helped me make the decision to NOT move forward on picking this "studio" monitor up yet. You made great points on the features that you'd expect in 2022 for the price range....and Apple has delivered an underwhelming product on this one. If you have a bunch of cash to burn, this might be a fun purchase. Otherwise, you can move the needle for you and your business a lot more by investing the same money towards something else.
What monitor are you considering that has the same color accuracy for a lower price point?
I'm running windows. I ordered the Asus PA32UCR-K and should have it by the end of this week. Its essentially the cheaper version of the UCX. I couldn't find any reviews of it, so will see how it goes. I just hope the quality is great all around. The specs looked great given that I won't be doing much gaming. Mini led, HDR1000, almost 100% coverage of the core gamuts (sRGB, Adobe RGB, DCI-P3), very accurate, etc. Hopefully the lack of reviews mean everyone is busy being productive with it.
@@johnolin are you joking? There are tons? The Huawei Mateview does the same and it’s a 10 bit panel lol
Get a 4K Eizo, never look back.
@@the_irav The only Eizo I could find that was close to having equivalent specifications as the Studio Display is the Eizo CG2700X. It's 4k instead of 5k and maximum brightness is a little lower, but it does have built-in hardware calibration and that hood would be useful. However, it is twice the price of Apple's Studio Display. The Eizo would look good on my desk, but work wouldn't pay for it 😕
You got my thumb’s up on the last sentence. 😂 Great review.
The fact that the M1 iMac 24in with a 4.5k display exist for $1,300, which is a full computer makes this a terrible deal. I was at an apple store and my sister said "So this display is more than that computer? That makes no sense".
Exactly, and the iMac 24 really is very capable!
Don’t worry, Apple will fix this problem…By raising the base price of an imac to 2000$
hey i am not that into tech but why would people buy a 5k lcd monitorsfor this much price instead of 4k oled as in general oled has way better colours
@@mac.fk14 just to flex. and say look at me I have a apple product I’m rich 🤑
@@mac.fk14 OLEDs and desktop computers don't mix well because of all of the static elements and because of OLED smearing
Apple marketing logic:
"We don't send chargers with the iPhones anymore, because of environmental reasons."
"If your power cable breaks, you have to send in the whole thing!"
(I would even consider myself a fan boy. But some stuff they do makes me puke. It's just greedy.)
Maybe it's the green agenda that resulted in this decision. Thoughts go like this: Because previously they said power cables were not included due to waste concerns, this monitor they made it permanently attached in case someone tried to call them out for including a power cable. "But it's permanently attached, we had to include it!" 🤦
I have a 10 year old Thunderbolt Display on my desk, the power cable is in perfect condition (as are the other cables, which are known to crack). I've never had to disconnect it from the back of the monitor, even when moving the monitor between office and home and back.
@@fmarinosfromafar9512 ok
Yes it is after all consider your a new Mac user in the U.K. and you purchases the top of the range Mac Studio for example for £3999 and get it home only to find that all you get in the bus is the computer and a power cable.
You them go back to the apple store and to get a screen, stand, trackpad, keyboard, mouse and of course they then force you into purchasing the apple care, so that’s another £2065 (for the basic screen and stand) you have to pay and nearly £3000 if you want top of the range.
What a rip off…
Lol du hier xD
Love your commentaries. Thank you
Great presentation and I agree with the fails on no mini-led, no ProMotion, power cord not removable, stand not upgradable, poor quality web cam, and no Face ID given it has a A13 chip even if it was used for 2FA. I also think they missed an opportunity to have multiple monitors work in tandem with audio and possibly even the web cam. This is the company that comes up with great useful features, although neglects a lot of them, and this crazy expensive monitor really only has some trivial additions. It's like the team that designed the Studio Display was designing the old MBP which took away man things Pros, and frankly even general users, wanted while not long ago a different team created the new MBP with things Pros do want and the Studio Display team ignored it all. This display is the victim of the same thing that gave us the Touch Bar. i.e. Apple ignored it, then had to come up with something to say they weren't ignoring the Mac, look the new MBP, it's all the things that no one asked for or wanted in a MBP. Yes I'm aware that had some exaggeration. However, I equate these things to the one button mouse desuional logic which is like a virus Apple can't cure, it always pops up somewhere. Frankly $400 for a single not uncommon function is where Apple shows itself as a greedy corporation like that $19 display cleaning cloth or the $1000 stand. Yes people pay for elegant designs, but there is a point when you're just milking customers because you can. If the stand had more of the functionality of RA-HS3111, which lets you control the position of a monitor in 3 dimensions independently, but they gave it Apple style and the one thing missing, fine tune height adjustment, I'd be OK with $400 - $550. There is actually another thing missing from the RA-HS3111, a quick release at the VESA connection to the monitor, but I've given up on Apple making monitors or AIOs with removal stands.
Thanks for the sanity MKBHD!
and i wounder why?
the display could cost 1k more and the same audience would buy it.
maybe even more if it came with all the premium stuff people with this money expect of their products...
Unremovable cable is ridiculous, it's almost like apple wants right to repair regulation to come into law. It truly serves no purpose
They literally engineered the most satisfying power connector I have ever used in the M1 iMac, and they decide to not use it
I think sometimes they just intentionally make some aspect of their product design completely ridiculous just to get free exposure and coverage. Because the monitor is otherwise so unremarkable, it has ended up being the most talked about aspect of the device.
@@diverman1023 not only did they decide not to use it, they went out and spent money to develop, test and build a completely different (bad) solution.
This didn‘t save them money, it cost them money, that is the insane part.
@@liamness I'm convinced this is the case, same as the $1000 stand (any serious user would just get the VESA mount, but the publicity is priceless)
Apple neede to be fined for this
It seems like Apple is testing what people are willing to pay for at this point… the fact that it costs nearly the same as an iMac 5k did is laughable.
at this point?
i thought they were doing it on purpose like 3-4 years back…
The Kanye West business model
At this point? This is what they always do, the sheeps are still buying, so no problem for then
People want an apple with a bite out of it and are willing to pay 5x the price for one
@@shathaan1763 Apple is a company. They both release amazing products and bad ones. They are killing it with most of their product offerings.
Thank you CZcams algorithm for sending me Marques. Your reviews seem to be truly unbiased, sharing the good and bad in a very clear, concise way that I really enjoy. Well done sir!
thanks for such a honest review! I keep my late 2013 imac for now..great colors and experience even if its not even a retina....(but costs only 10%)
that ending was actually hilarious when he looks us straight in the eye and says "yea.....its not a good deal" LOL
I cannot believe people actually call him an Apple fanboy. He is objective. He doesn't tell you to buy it, he just tells his experience.
Love it
Absolutely correct. I can see why people think he's one but if you look through the past, Marques has had a OnePlus and a Pixel as his daily driver before they went insane and buggy respectively. He also criticised the macbooks until the M1 line-up showed up. I have never owned any apple products myself but i can see Marques is just looking for a good experience and boy apple is good at it.
He's still an apple fanboy..... He's just not part of the isheep crowd. Just because he's not scared to criticize Apple, doesn't make him less a fanboy. Just means he's realistic in his expectations and about his experiences with their products.
@@aaronthomas6155 Exactly. Just because I'm a avid fan of a certain football team doesn't mean I'm not going to yell at the TV when they do something stupid. Lol
@@aaronthomas6155 So how is he a fanboy?
@@aaronthomas6155 I mean that isn’t the term for it just fairly reviewing stuff doesn’t make him a fanboy also he uses the products because he likes them and are good so really he is just an apple user
The old 27" iMac retailed for $1799 and had the same identical panel (just a 500 nits instead of 600) as the Studio display which costs $1599. For an extra $200 you got an entire computer plus keyboard and mouse. The price of the Studio display is ridiculous, shouldn't be more than $1000.
Yep, Apple has dramatically increased the price of getting an equivalent machine as the now discontinued 27" iMac.
The thing is, there’s an entire Apple silicon computer in there. It just can’t compute
exactly, you know they're making even more money off of this than the iMac FOR SURE and they're hoping their fans just eat it up. And honestly? A lot of them are. I've seen way too many "this is such a good monitor oh my god" videos considering just how bad this monitor actually is. They usually have really weird conditions about what is good and what is bad like plastic makes a monitor unusable, if it's not 5k instead of 4k it looks pixelated lol. It takes a real weirdo to really prefer this monitor above other options
@@EricLS They really should've given it like...Apple TV capabilities or something. For it to have an A13 and 64GB of storage onboard and not be able to do that standalone is ridiculous
or get $700 wheels
Thank you for this Video @MKBHD because I was on the fence and didn't know which way to go!!!
I have one of these, mainly because apple colour on the screen is really accurate if you work in print like I do. I wish they would have given us just 2 more inches though, it does feel smaller compared to my old iMac 27 because that was taller. Great review, thanks
do your customers look at the screen while you work and tell you exactly what color they want?
lets face it, you fix common file issues and then print proof on some inkjet, send it to the customer and they say yes.
you are a smart person, you could do just fine without the studio display
Missed opportunity: Apple could have priced this at $2500 and sold the exact same number of units. Anyone crazy enough to spend $1600 would be crazy enough to spend $2500.
I would even say that some people would buy this at 3000
It has an Apple logo on it....price is irrelevant for some people. All that matters is the Apple logo.
KA-CHING!
Nah, a lot of newer, smaller studios need to count every dollar. Who knows, maybe the $900 extra really is a dealbreaker for somebody
It’s 2500$ here in Canada
Fun fact: the Studio Display can detect which orientation it’s in and switch the content to portrait automatically, but neither of the stands let you rotate it
I mean, a vesa-mount option will allow you to attach it to a rotateable arm, so...
@@andreirachko but i thought the stand was not user upgradable.
@@SuperSeigerman that's another option, you have to choose it while purchasing. . Can't Upgrade after purchase
@@siddharthn.3839 yeah but you either buy it with the bad stand or good stand. There’s no option for no stand is there?
@@olivert.7192 Nope. it's the normal, the height adjustable one or the vesa adapter. Interestingly, the normal and the vesa adapter cost the same here in UK and the if you go for Vesa, you'll have to get another stand to attach it. .
Thanks for this video! You did a great job dumbing it down and keeping it engaging! Are there other monitors with similar specs that have built-in speakers? I have a weird desk setup and the thought of adding more cable clutter to it with speakers is enough to make me go with the studio display.
No display speaker is as good as a real speaker. Unless you don't care about sound quality.
I like mine. I agree about the power cord - don't know why they couldn't have used the same design they did with the new iMacs - with a magnetic closure. But it works great with my Mac Mini, I like the additional USB-C ports and it's worked out great for me.
LTT summarized the Apple Studio Display pretty nicely - "an LG Ultra Fine 5k Display Expensive Edition". 😆
ok
and also "less practical"
Haha, fully agree, the Pro Display XDR I would say is actually worth the money but I can't keep the same statement for the new studio display.
The LG is literally only $300 cheaper and it’s built way more on the cheap with it being fully plastic with no metal or glass. Plus, when you watch videos side by side, the Studio Display has way better color accuracy and contrast.
So yeah, it’s the same thing for $300, and that extra $300 is used to make an inherently better display and experience.
Without the removable Power Cord
On the verge of QD-OLED and considering the utterly insane stand vs VESA mount stuff Apple does, this monitor is just an absolute joke. I feel like you should have been much more angry about the attached power cable too. It's just completely unacceptable.
Not only is it a bad deal, but Apple making this, sends a message to the industry that this is acceptable. IT IS NOT.
THIS IS EXPENSIVE E-JUNK.
so true, specially when you realize this will probably be on sale for 5 years lmao
Qd-oled won't be for monitors
“unacceptable” This is the first time people cared about a semi detachable cable, it seems like
@@psp785 it is, I bought one a few hours ago.
Great review as usual, Marques. This has been as always helpful. Still sticking with iMac for now.
After 1 year of owning two of these displays, I have to say they are the best displays I ever owned. In our office I am the only one with this display, others all have an HP panorama display that‘s about as expensive. Funny thing: Whenever I‘m in my HomeOffice my colleagues use my Apple display instead of their larger HP. I don’t know wether it’s because of the higher resolution (despite being smaller) or the better colors or the uniform lighting without light speckles or the joy of using a display that doesn’t wiggle whenever you touch the table. A solid aluminum display with an excellent screen seems to be worth something.
But HP's panoramic display is, you know, a panoramic display, it's an ultra-wide monitor, and Apple's one is not. And if you really have problems with monitor stability, you can try using a desk/wall mount, it will cost less than $400 and will allow you a wider range of position adjustment.
@@randomrandom7208 Our whole office is full of panoramic HP displays. And still… my coworkers prefer to use my smaller display. And my desk ist standing in the middle of the room, no way to use a mount.
@@HalixCH I wasn't trying to convince you that a panoramic display is better, I was just pointing out that it's an expensive feature (even if you don't really need it), so a direct comparison isn't entirely fair. And yes, no matter how good the desktop mount is, it is not a solution for all cases.
😂😂 Best ending ever.
Absolutely! The last line made my day!
Here to say it
Was gonna say the same thing. I laughed pretty good
I completely agree. Your closing of this episode was absolutely brilliant!
Hah, this. The intro was a good setup on its own. Circling back with all the points made? Yeah, that was a clutch way to drive the point home.
If you take into account the $400 stand option for height and tilt adjust, you find yourself comparing a $1999 monitor with a $1299 and $589 option.
I got a 27" IPS, 144hz display (with a stand!) for fucking 130€. I don't care how well Marques argues for 12 minutes, people who buy Apple products are getting robbed hard, and consenting through the whole thing.
Agreed. I run two Dell 27 inch curved monitors, both height adjustable, tiltable and easy to remove stand for a VESA mount. Both cost a combined $450. I get it, people who need color accuracy for their work cannot use what I'm running but Apple charging a premium for basic QoL features is robbery.
@@manthe3711 you need to compare black levels and colors tho, 100% dci p3 color space isn't cheap
@@manthe3711 FHD is junk these days.
I have a Dell 27” Ultrasharp connected to my Mac Mini. Great quality and only $450. Oh it doesn’t have a webcam but a $70 webcam will fix that and honestly be the same quality.
Bro your reviews are always spot on! you special with this.
WOW. I am a fool for thinking that the adjustable factor came with the display..only for you to say its a $400 upgrade fee associated to have it do that..I'm floored lol. I highkey was thinking of getting this to add to my apple eco-system lol, but after watching this, I am definitely going to be thinking this over for a while. THANK YOU for your honest review!
I was really impressed with this monitor but I can't get past how much of a horrible deal this is now.
I'd be impressed if it had impressive features...
Chromebook has a lot better cammers
Dude just for height adjustment extra $400 smh.
@@OHOE1 😂😂
you're paying for the logo brand name not how good the monitor is.
This video perfectly shows my main BIG problem with this monitor (and some other decisions apple made in the last years). Everything that stands out as particularly "great/good" are things that don't actually matter for the monitor as a monitor. Build quality, feel, a build in UI with a good chip, good speakers... all nice, but everything that matters for the actual product as a MONITOR is just not good enough for the price (and the add-on prices) Apple is asking for. Yes it feels good, but i almost never touch my monitor, yes it sounds good, but for a desktop i always use external speakers or headphones, yes it's well made (except the cable), but i never had a monitor breaking because it's plastic... what i actually want in a high standard productivity monitor is amazing peak brightness, a higher refresh rate for more pleasant reading and scrolling (let's be honest, gaming is not what apple is focussing on), an amazing panel with accurate colors and close to the best blacks and maybe some comfort features like tilt, swivel, height adjust and rotation if you don't put it on an arm... and none of that is what this monitor stands out for.
It honestly feels like Apple spend tons of time and money to develope a shiny new product with lots of features, but failed to develope the core feature set to a point that actually feels well done. It's like a bog standard monitor with with some Apple-Glitter slapped on it.
I don't even think Apple spent too much time on this one, given that users have already reported problems with their web cams.
Thanks for writing, so I don’t have to do it again - 100% with you on this one, the power Cable, yeah I get the point, but I never broke on, and if you buy 1600 worth of display pets should not be allowed in the room or trained well anyway. - Most likely it’ll be a work space. Bazels are something I might add. To bis for these days, and the hole display is do much, because of all the features I don’t wont. iPhone 11 had a small footprint, for being a phone, better cameras and a okay-ish speaker. Why the hell is that display so thick when the stuffed a whole computer in the iMac 27” and even less into the 24” inch?
cool, good for you. build quality isn’t important for everyone, just because it’s not for you doesn’t mean it’s not a good product. I’d prefer to have a better built product that lasts longer! ♻️
@@calebjankola8728 Great how you managed to completely misinterprete my comment... congratulations.
I never said, and never will say that build quality isn't important. It definetly is, very much so. But this is not "better quality", it's more material waste without any other purpose than to "look good". It's a "good-enough" monitor for money you pay for a "very good" one, because it's shiny and cool. There are tons of monitors with less features and "worse" materials, which still have amazing lifespans, don't break, have replaceable stands and cables AND are much better monitors... and without a mediocre webcam, storage and a chip, a fixed cable and "good-enough" speakers that will end in a landfill once the monitor is dead. "♻" (if you honestly believe this product has to do anything with the environment and cycle lifespans you are dumb as bread, sorry)
My complete comment was about Apple setting the wrong focus for too much money. I didn't say anything about quality or that i don't like the superb machining, but it's a dumb monitor. It failed to be the core product it's supposed to be, for materials and features that don't really matter.
I disagree. There is no other 5k monitor with the built in features at this price point.
I always enjoy your reviews.
Fantastic job.
Cool video Marques! Would love to hear you more on resolution scaling
I love the brutal honesty in this one! 👊🏻 Without ProMotion and mini LED, it’s a hard pass. And that’s a shame, because the monitor itself is beautifully designed. It’s a very “Apple” product, I suppose.
4K pro motion option with mini-LED would make more sense for a $1600 display to me but maybe that's asking too much? Spending $1000+ on a display in 2022 and seeing that terrible contrast rubs me the wrong way
With those two things alone, the money wouldn’t be able to fly out of my wallet fast enough. Seriously. I would pay the $1999 for the height adjustment ability and all.
they always left out something purposely so it can be an upgrade for the next model
@@NuggetsXInfinite the LG 4K 144hz display is the same brightness as this, has way higher frame rate, is similar in color accuracy, and does have support for hdr 600 and has local dimming. All for 800. This is a horrible deal in all but it being 5k and pretty looking.
Hate to disagree, but it’s an easy pass. So easy I’m not even thinking about it I’m just buying it. Yes you could buy the LG 5K monitor… But as I said in another comment, if you sneeze too hard it’ll shake rattle and roll. It’s built like crap. But if you can recommend a monitor to me that is way better than this monitor that isn’t made out of plastic crap… Please let me know so I can consider it.
8:13 lol, i see what you did there 😂😂
I have been passively watching your content for years and something about your delivery in this video finally prompted me to subscribe. Thanks.
Great review. Love your style and the points you make. You opened my eyes!
Amazing what Apple can get away with sometimes. They make some great products, but some others represent a clear abuse of brand loyalty lol.
Not for long, people will notice. For example. I am considering Linux, although I am a vivid Apple user from 2008 till now. Design is certainly nice, but the there are so manny other things I do not like.
@@aronbijl4109 The moment Adobe has Lightroom and PS for Linux I would be there in a heartbeat. MS and Apple have just become a basket of bad apples. :S
@@booradley3146 Indeed, Apple, MS became a basket of bad apples. I use an alternative to Adobe almost as good and way cheaper: Affinity Designer, Affinity Photo and Affinity Publisher
Not brand loyalty... Just plain cruelty
@Xavier Breath I agree 100%
Waiting for apple to make speakers with a non removable lightning cable and you will have to buy lightning to 3.5 mm jack or XLRs for additional 200 dollars.
Simply don't buy crap
It's coming 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The original homepod had the same cable situation -- you CAN pull the power cord out, but you SHOULDN'T.
I wish it HAD a lightning cable or any wired way to get sound into the thing.
Yeah they do, its called the Homepod mini, they have a non removable USB C cable, bit of an annoyance if the cable gets damaged for whatever reason.
Your videos are a pleasure to watch, thank you.
This is actually the only option if you want a glossy desktop monitor, which in itself is pretty mind blowing.
Why aren’t other manufacturers filling this gap in the market?!!
You’re preaching to the choir brother. I would easily pay $3k for a mini LED 120 Hz 5K glossy monitor. That ticks all the boxes I’d want for a monitor.
@@bren.r Thunderbolt 4 lacks the bandwidth for 5K/120hz, but perhaps TB5 will make a display like that possible someday.
@@tronam No it doesn't. TB4 can handle 5k120. DSC is a thing you know.
@@bren.r TB4 does not support resolutions above 4K at 120Hz.
@@tronam yes it does. Read the specification.
Imagine paying $1600 for a monitor without High Refresh Rate or HDR.
Would gotta be trippin
Apple users: instant buy.
And it’s not OLED or mini LED either. IPS isn’t terrible, but hasn’t been the best for a while
@@martinqizeaq Am Apple user. Instant buy for me. Literally as soon as they announced it I went to the app and preordered it and now staring at it while I type this comment. Best purchase, no regrets.
@@waterbiscuit9222 mini Led displays still show some teething issues (aside from its low yield), and mainstream OLED screens still suffer from ghosting and burn-ins specially for studio setups like this. I’m not sold on the Studio Display, but for this price range I’d say IPS would be the best choice.
The $1000 stand still ranks as one of the most “wtf” things apple has ever done. Unless the engineering on that thing rivals NASA’s tech, i don’t get it.
It probably does. But did it need to? No.
Or the $700 wheels
Wow wow wow... lets not forget about the 700 dollar wheels 🤣
ok
And don’t forget the slaves who earned $0.0 for this
Good review. It would great to see a comparison review with competitors.
Oh, I was so close to buying one of these. I am so glad that you're review popped up in my feed between the power cord that crappy WebCam and honestly the price especially if you want to go for an adjustable up and stand I gotta start looking for something else if anybody has a suggestion, please let me know.
I can’t agree more. You can get an iMac 24” with the same display technology with less money. *AND ITS A WHOLE COMPUTER WITH PROCESSOR KEYBOARD MOUSE AND STUFF*
But then you can’t plug your “modular” Mac studio into it because iMacs don’t have display in 🙃
The Studio Display also has an Processor :DDDD
Apple really loves to fuck their customers over
@@randomizednamme Feel like older ones did.
Dude, it’s only 24”. The 27” is barely large enough.
This guy gets invited to apple events, gets exclusive interviews with people from apple and still has what it takes to give out genuine impressions about products like these!!! That is why he is my number 1 source for all tech related things!!
are you new here bro?
@@firstsoldier4257 got to be
What are you talking about? This is a overpriced piece of crap and he is sugar coating all the negatives. This is blatantly huge rip off.
@@Anonymous-pm7jf facts
Yes, Marques Brownlee is a Straight Shooter! He's World Class @ His Craft.....😝👻👻👽
I bought mine in February and now in early August, it has bricked itself and requires a complete logic board replacement. The techs are pretty sure the logic board is fine, but they have no means of reflashing the OS. So, totally bizarre; if you buy this, be aware that it's able to brick itself during software updates. This is a very expensive replacement, and it seems likely to be able to occur out of warranty.
How the hell does a bloody monitor brick itself with updates
@@tydshiin5783 no one seems to know. Mine still hasn’t been repaired, though Apple has committed to replacing mine. Almost 50 days to get to this point, though. Buyer beware.
Amazing review. Literally I don't need to do any more research now. I won't get it for now because I need the money to pack all the juice I can into the mac studio. Funny how the Dell alternative you listed only cost around 100 bucks more than the stand upgrade for the studio monitor. So that killed it for me. I'm a big fan of the apple design functionality and I couldn't have put it better my self when your describing apples combination of unique features on products. But for this piece of kit that price is too high right now to pay for lovely apple niceness with the design functionality and also the power cable is absurd but ultimately I could get over that.
This has been my fundamental problem with Apple's design philosophy through the dark ages (butterfly keyboard era). They're intentionally choosing to under-design a product that _could_ be insanely competitive despite the fact that they'd still be able to line their pockets if they just made something better. Every power user is just going to be resentful of the limitations here despite them being the very demographic they're targeting. They finally made Macbook Pros a legitimately compelling product again, and this feels like a huge step backwards.
How are they selling an _entire_ Macbook Pro with better screen tech for $2k and then turning around and selling this monitor for $1600? Their pricing/spec philosophy is conflicting with itself. Sure, it's a "nice" monitor overall, but the design decisions to get it here are clearly shady and minimally competitive. Ultimately, I hope this product fails so that Apple does better next time. $400 for a few inches of height adjustment? Get the absolute fuck outta here. Just _make a great monitor_ and charge the typical Apple price for it.
Issue is that they got halo product that are there to make lot of money, like the mentioned MacBook. Then they got this display that they know will not sell a lot and is just there to say that it exist, that use repurposed components from their others device. Like the 1000$ stand or wheels, this is a design statement and if some dumb rich minimalist buy it then that's an added bonus. We are there comparing price, they are just waiting for that one guy that only know one store, the apple store.
@Male Sensitivity the entire M1 lineup (at least the M1 macbook air and pro) have all been shockingly good value, or at least worth their price if used to their extent. This monitor simply does not meet expectations for a studio monitor in 2022 as Marques states. It fails to produce a display beyond the basics (60hz LCD IPS) excluding its 5k resolution.
@Male Sensitivity The stand(s) and power cable are blatant shortcomings that very clearly have profit-driven motives behind their design. They're 100% anti-consumer and sacrifice actual usability/flexibility in favor of predatory pricing and repair practices. You could argue that for almost any of their products to some degree, but the last few years have generally been an upswing for the value of their lineup. The new MBPs and iPad Air have been actual showstoppers, which makes this monitor feel that much more egregious by comparison.
Yeah Apple has a serious problem beliving it is a Botique design company. When it is a tech company that focues on making tech for non tech people. How ever it doesn't necerly wants to limit it's profit to the 1% it also wants their prices to be low enough for meanstream or even the poor in 1st world contries to buy them.... Basicly Apple has no real audence on paper yet it has Apple fans and are 1 of the reachest companies dispite their lack of focus.
For one all in one devices are always cheaper than getting separate devices (MacBook vs a display)
The studio display is larger, brighter (600 vs 500) and pushing more pixels (5k vs 3k)
The studio display isn't the new pro display. Hence why it doesn't have mini led.
For this to be a good deal, I think it'd need to be 120 Hz (or higher), have height adjustment in the base model, a better camera (not necessarily an excellent one, but something better than that), and of course a removable power cord. Considering Apple's done all of this before I don't think that's a huge ask, it just needs to be put in one device
That’ll be for the next iteration of screens. That’s how companies work.
@@rodrigojds that’s how Apple operates. Churn out half finished hobbled garbage, next year the S version gets another essential feature that the competition had 5 years previously.
you Nailed it. Couldn't have said it better myself
So basically replace everything "special " about it 😂😂😂. Might aswell cancel this product. it doesn't need to be 120hz , it either needs to be a better panel (brighter with better contrast) , and has to have basic vesa mount & cable not magsafe just a removable cable and stand . Every monitor I know of has a mounting mechanism , especially recent ones . Same with cables . They were better of powering this monitor with 5 lighting cables lol
Then make that perfect display and sell it at the same price, let’s see what you can do
I love how honest this guy is
that sigh of frustration at 3:25 made my day.
$399 for a stand? Wow! Looks like a GREAT deal😂
400 bucks for a stand? WHAT A STEAL🤑
Hey, it's less than half the price of the Pro Display XDR stand right? So it must be a bargain
The stand is free, you don’t have to buy the height adjustable one
@@geogmz8277 still a terrible deal
@@DariusCarv But the non-adjustable is too low
As someone who owned an Apple Thunderbolt Display with an unremovable cable, it gives anxiety to know such an expensive display also has one. The cable on mine deteriorated over time for no reason to a point where the display would constantly lose signal. Had to throw it away since it was out of warranty and the amount Apple was asking to fix it could be used to buy a non-Apple display brand new.
LOOL and Apple wants to reduce e waste. 😂😂 They only do things that benefits them
My Thunderbolt Display is still in great condition. I look after my stuff.
Wouldn't signal loss come from a display cable though? I feel like the power cable can't really have much to do with that
Cue the superiority complex driven comments.
@@luca_sbll i believe he was talking about non removable display cable on that Thunderbolt Display.
Really good review!
My interest in the studio display and apples studio computer was for photography, as I thought it would be colour calibrated the best . I’ve also wondered about how text looks, as we can only see the screen saver at our local Staples in my area
12:11 killed it!! ROFL that was hilarious!
Lol that was brutal.
Yep! Along with that outro. He nailed it.
😭😭😭
Great breakdown of why it’s not for you and why it might be for some people. It really makes me want to skip them though for my setup
hey,Marques
Can I get that wallpaper's link 😅
Idk how it would be a thing for other people tho, the person could just make a faux metal finish frame for a display instead of buying the Apple studio display and I don’t think any Apple user could complain about not having 5k over 4K considering they would go for mini leds instead.
@@epicmusic9029 We absolutely would complain about not having 5K over 4K. We don't have ClearType like on Windows. MacOS doesn't scale well bellow 200% like Windows does. Text on a 4K screen looks much worse than it would on Windows.
@@thatdesiindian CZcams won't let me paste the full link. MKBHD stores wallpaper in that Google Drive folder
0B_wmPHe0B1PFV0dWUEEycm9DT2M
@@guim817where can I find the Google drive link?
Great review. You are a star!! Hard working man and so honest. I just love this guy
I decided to go for the EIZO CS2740. For me the colours (100%-ish adobe rgb) and especially the bit depth (true 10) is most important.
The biggest thing for me was the 60hz refresh rate. For $1600 you can get a G9 which is 240hz and way bigger
There is no excuse at this price that this monitor doesn’t have at minimum 120Hz
G9 lmao!
@@MansaBC glmao 9
and HDR, and variable refresh, and local dimming.
@@richmahogany1710 and poorly reviewed.
Even when critical I love how honest and objective you are, it’s not over the top, it is what it is, no fluff or fake clickbait. It’s so refreshing
Right? I don’t understand why people have to be so emotionally invested in objects. Like, if you want it, get it. Otherwise, move along.
Having said that, i feel like someone is going to tell me how wrong i am.
@@HoldFastFilms stupid ass money is also a thing. For thousands of dollars you are giving us 480p shitcam. It's a joke. Your philosophy works for rich kids. Just want it get it lol. Rich kids are stupid don't know when you can get a lot better deal in less money. They just want to show off
His review seems so "people-pleaser-not-to-hurt-any-sentiments" kinda...it's annoying and honestly just not up to par..only the video quality keeps increasing
@@m_jade3602 yeah. It's annoying. If a product is bad just say it's shit. Why u gotta stretch it. I get it he's interviewed That Apple guy and will again in future that's why he talks carefully. But a person like him says it's trash then apple even might consider things
@@3xP90 I just came to watch how he’s gonna paint this shitty apple product into something people should pay money for and… he doesn’t disappoint ;)
I have this monitor for a few months now and it’s been great so far. Amazing colors, the brightness is really strong, good sound from the speakers. I do graphic design and it’s a very powerful tool.
Which version, fixed or height adjustable? 👍🏻🤔
@@AbstractMan23 Height and Tilt adjustable.
I'm considering it, i can't find anything comparable in the market other than Huawei Mateview(weird ratio), LG price range isn't that far off apple display , plus it's a plastic case which is really ugly design.
I agree, I got this monitor 2 months ago over the LG Ultrafine 5K (which cost more in my country because it’s harder to find) and I love the colours so much
Does it have deeper blacks than the 24” m1 iMacs or is it the same?
I think that apple should make speakers too, but I think the intention of them is to include good speakers into their everyday devices like iPad, iPhone and so on, in order to not have to bring an extra speaker if you wanted to listen to high quality music.
I don't even want to talk about how sad it is that Apple is ripping customers off just for simple features like an adjustable stand.
When you can get OLED monitors for less than half the base price, anyone would have to be mad to buy this.
The like to dislike ratio on this video is the worst one i have seen on a mkbhd video
@@sarthakjain1824 How are you seeing the dislikes? CZcams Vanced?
And the built-in camera, which was supposed to be a key extra feature, doesn't even look good.
@@sarthakjain1824 youre seeing a fake like/dislike ratio btw.
I have a half dozen coworkers who jizzed in their pants and ordered it the moment the store reopened. Their only justification: omg camera so good. KEK all reviews say it is trash.
It's a monitor for Apple fans. If you open your options to non-Apple displays, there are so many capable options to choose from. Non-removable cable is not a thumbs down, it's silly.
I’m an Apple fanboy. I’m not buying this, I’m buying a used Apple Thunderbolt Display on eBay
Every other monitor other than Pro Display and Huawei Mateview are ugly and plastic.
No, it's not. Most Apple fans hate this monitor because it represents everything those who make fun of Apple, think Apple is. It just adds fuel to the fire.
Are there any options that use glass in the front? That’s a huge deal for me when I’m looking at text all day
@@ahappycoder2925 It's macOS, not Windows. There is no ClearType. That 1440p display's gonna look horrible on post-Mojave macOS.
Love your channel bro! Do you happen to have recommendations for color accurate monitors ?
4:13 that bloom on the MiniLED tho!
The ONLY negative thing I have to say about my 16" MBP display
The power cable doesn't come out the back... and the LG version has a removable power cable (standard IEC). I'd say the LG Ultra Fine is worth it for that alone.
it does come out*
*if you pull _really_ hard, of course
Anything under $500 is better than this crap
While I think it’s dumb that it doesn’t come out, why does anyone care? It’s a desktop monitor that you’re not going to move. Why does it matter if it’s removable?
The power cable does apparently come out. Linus demonstrated it on a stream. Keep in mind he had to wrap it around his hand and they could feel the monitor housing bending but it did come out. It was a proprietary connector.... apparently Apple doesn't want you to remove them for some reason though.
@@ChickenOfMajesty Same reason why your desktop tower has a removable cable. Why do you think it is removable?
Imagine you have a iPad, iPhone and MacBook 120hz and than a studio display with 60hz….for that price
My guess is if you have enough for the rest..... stop complaining? lol
nobody needs 120Hz, thats useless luxury on a monitor.
that will be a thing for the premium version, this is the cheap model.
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl „Cheap“ 😂😂😂
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl For productivity it's still nice for scrolling and animations on my 165Hz monitor but not a dealbreaker. For gaming it's HUGE and there is no going back.
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl I think the point he's making is that there IS a premium end model, but it still has 60hz.
got me thinking today when i watched your mac mini review, you should do 'the best apple monitor alternatives' piece :)
Excellent video and that is SUPER WEIRD about the power cable being non-removable.
man, the QUALITY of this kind of videos, solid 11/10 for me.
also, imagine paying almost 2 grand for 60Hz in 2022. hurts.
You mean it hertz? :)
@@TikTokToo1 oof
@@TikTokToo1 get out.
Yeah, Marques really does have the best reviews.
@@Scorpiove Absolutely! Straight talk, common sense, sly humor...and hedoesn'ttalksodamnfastthatyoucan'tunderstandhim!
60hz LCD for that price is an absolute joke. Apple laughing all the way to the bank
That’s barely relevant for the target market of this display
they got my money lmao! love this display
@@arandomhumanbeing2464 target market of who? Apple fanboys?
@@nongmaithemavinash3977 professional creators, of course. No ordinary user or “Apple sheep” will buy this
@@arandomhumanbeing2464 there are way better deal with similar specs for professionals. And again if you are an artist, this ain't even touchscreen. For that price it's still a terrible deal for professionals.
Thank you. I was on the fence about buying a Mac Studio and watched several "middle of the road" reviews. This was wholly accurate, backed with receipts. Sorry Apple - I'll wait.
Happy to watch your video and keep myself away from a bad choice.. thx a lot and greetings from Germany!
Honestly I loved this video, the only thing I find difficult to swallow is the lack of VESA mention. Getting a VESA at the store should be the default choice for anybody practical or even not experienced with IT. Monitor that charges money for a height adjustable mount in a world, where we fill landfills with Dell height-adjustable VESA stands.
The worst thing is that you cannot just buy a third party adaptator after the fact.
You have to bring it back to a store for them to make you pay a premium to put the Vesa stand. But then you will not be able to put it yourself on the original stand. So you have to bring it back to.... Yeah well...
$2K for 60HZ LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Great video. It’s the build quality that makes it difficult for me to bother upgrading my display which is Apple’s LED Thunderbolt 27” display. That’s built the same way, all metal . . . built in speakers, camera, etc. Oh and I can remove the power cable. LOL
It's worth noting that you can control screen brightness from your keyboard which is something most other non-mac monitors don't support. If you work in a bright environment during the day and then use the same screen at night it's nice to be able to tone down the display.
I'm thinking that's not a big deal. If you are doing color critical work then you may take extra steps to control the ambient light.
You can control screen brightness with keyboard, i have functional addressable keys for my PC and it's not a mac
So I should get that vs oled for cheaper cuz kf brightness?
You can do it on windows.
it’s a big deal for me. i’m so used to the feature on my imac, also being able to put the display asleep
For that extra $400, I can buy a extremely superior arm mount with more actuation action...this whole monitor, even from a monitor buying stand-point, IS AN AWFUL DEAL.
Exactly...
You could literally buy an oled TV and mount it to a monitor arm for that kind of price
Yes you could-- but then you will not have a stand if you ever want to sell it or use it in a different way so they save on material and cost and you still pay the same. They should just make all the monitors cheaper and make a vesa style stand for 199 which is sold spectrum. Like the Eve spectrum
You almost had me on the first half with that closing argument about whether it is a good deal 😂
That’s how you end a review, honesty above all!
This is the best review I have seen of this monitor and I agree with all points. Thanks a lot!
I just bought a 48" LG C3 as my monitor and I wall mounted it and I am truly obsessed with it.
The display never seemed worth it… it’s way too expensive. You could get way more for the money you pay for it
ok
True
It literally has the A13 Bionic chip in it
The same processor on the iPhone 11, 11 pro, SE 2 and iPad 9
@@daniyalkhizar not worth the money only does certain stuff, it isn't fully utilised
@@daniyalkhizar But why it has that?
For me, the 400$ stand convinced me to buy another monitor. Such a basic feature that's actually mandatory if you don't wanna develop health problems, should be included in the base version.
Buying another, I discovered other monitors look like shit on Apple unless you trick the computer to think it's an Apple display through software. Nice.
Exactly the reason why I am “stuck” with Apple monitor. You really can’t go with other monitors (except the one approved by Apple, and even then it’s not the same crisp).
How do you trick the computer?
I might have actually been interested if that stand was included, even though it sounds contradictory to say that I'd probably rather have an updated and improved iMac 27" anyway (which is non-adjustable, height-wise). And that's partly because the all-in-one system is something of a statement piece, a bit of furniture almost, but mainly because it just looks neater. On that note, I think it's horrible the way you can see cables with the Studio Display if it has been lifted-up a little; couldn't they have supplied some kind-of clip that goes into that slot, to force the cables to route through the gap as high-up as possible?
I've never heard of people having to get apple displays with the monitor.
I brought the 28 inch bezeless Samsung (no idea of the name) and it looks clean as fuck on my mac. I have just had to send it away because the ports in the back have become lose... typical Samsung cheap shit - but quality wise I wouldn't plug it into a mac vs pc and thing it looks worse. Never heard that one before
@@puffpuffpuff I did a few google searches and could not find any articles that would explain how to do this.
11 Months later, the ending is still HILARIOUS.
That basketball star comparison was hilarious! Great video
Just a disclaimer, the webcam that Marques was promoting, he's a shareholder in that company.
But I agree, the built-in webcam quality isn't what I expect it to be. I'm not in the market for this type monitor anyway, I cant afford it. I can't afford the LG too. They're just not for me. The Dell, maybe.
Gotta say, not a huge fan of tech relevant undisclosed financial positions for tech reviewers.
Do you have a link showing he's a shareholder? Couldn't find one myself but would like to see what's it there.
@@dawsongooch4194 he mentioned it in a previous video
@@dawsongooch4194 he disclosed it once in a video called “My everyday tech: 2022” at minute 3:10. I agree I think it’s very important to disclose these things upfront so you know the possible motives behind the recommendations and claims.
@@kas4751 I think that it's fair to demand from him that he discoses it every time he mentions it and talks about competitors. The viewer doesn't need to know the entire catalogue of videos of a tech *reviewer* when it comes to a video for a tech *review* and needs to know where his biases lands. he should be more upfront about it because he would benefict from it the most: as a reviewer his credibility it's why people come to his reviews, undermining it this way feel kinda dumb
The advantage of the Studio Display is that it has an A13 chip and 64GB storage so can be improved on with updates. Apple has already confirmed an update is coming for the camera.
I thinkApple know the market position of this display is not meant to sell good , it is there to boost the sales of current iMac 🖥 and the next 27 iMac 🤣
Not good for apple is some million units
They’ve discontinued the 27” mac.
It's there for people going to the apple site to buy a display.
Many businesses and people will love it because it looks fancy.
And it's quite functional. With 5k, 600nit, speakers, webcam.
So it's for people who don't care about money looking for a nice display.
Why would they sell another $1800 27" iMac when they can squeeze $3600 out of you for the Mac Studio + Studio Display? Apple keeps yelling the scam at their customers and they keep responding "OMG I NEED IT"...
@@ChirdXtreme now you can also buy 2 monitors instead of 1
You styles of presentation is fun to watch. I’m still using the LR display that I got from Apple that dates back to something like 2016 or so. Works great as far as I can tell.
Great review; thanks for the info and depth of assessment.
When I heard "Studio Display" for the very first time, I was hoping that maybe they did something like the Surface Studio, but with the only touch input being an Apple Pencil. I feel like that would make sense for design studios and such, but I guess touchscreens and Macs don't mix
Which is weird because macOS is more like iOS than it's ever been. A surface studio type Mac display with apple pencil would sell like crazy, even if they charge 2k or more.
Totally agree! They NEED to have Pencil support to macOS… not touch screen (there are trackpads that work way better for that) but support pencil… and it would make sense as they brought keyboard and trackpad to the iPad… so why not the other way round?
They just need to put MacOS on the iPad. They have literally no excuse now because both the iPad Pro and iPad Air have the exact same chip as all of the non-professional Macs.
They’ll do it in 10 years after people forget about the Surface Studio and then claim to be the first.
it's because they cant bump the price 500%, they'll prob do it in about 5 years, when the tech is even cheaper so they can overprice it even more.
I'd love to know Apple's justification for having the power cable hard-wired into the monitor. It's such a terrible compromise, and as Marques points out, if you have a problem with the cable you have to send THE WHOLE THING off to be fixed. I'm sure Steve Jobs wouldn't have signed off on something like this ...
Why would a cable break on a display? It’s build in a place mostly against a wall… At that price point that wall often would be of a work space… Also its strong enough… So what are you on about, yes it would have been the better option to take the supply, the 24” has. But well okay, move on.
@@TheKontraRecords Just because it's unlikely to break doesn't make Apples idea any less stupid.
@@TheKontraRecords You would be surprised..
I've seen monitor cables break because of the chair from the person infront.. pets.. kids.. and not so long ago a speaker fell and damaged the ethernet port of an all in one computer.. which now has to be used wirelessly.. if that were the power port.. the whole PC inside the monitor would be useless.
@@TheKontraRecords Quit being such a fanboy, you Apple fanboy. Why would a cable break on a display? Because not all workstations are up against a wall. But sometimes you set up or break down a workstation, you might accidentally trip on a wire and it's preferably to have the wire simply pull out from its sock than to rip or break the hardware. Are you Apple fanboys this dense? If Apple has taken you or your family hostage and are forcing you to defend them, blink three times and we'll rescue you.
@@TheKontraRecords They made it hard to remove because they know that some people will break the cable, they just made it hard enough so the user has to send it in to be fixed. If cables never broke it would be actually hardwired.
I love the way you presented this! You stick to the facts. Thank you
They used to make a speaker. It was like a boombox/iPad dock with auxiliary port that could run off of like 6 D batteries or be plugged in. I had it. It was loud enough, supper heavy; I liked it.