Why We Can NEVER Forget Sir Alex Ferguson & Arsene Wenger
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- čas přidán 30. 03. 2023
- True Geordie reacts to some of Sir Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger's best interviews and moments, as the Premier League officially induct both legendary managers into their Hall of Fame.
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Fergie is the greatest of all time, Wenger changed football and is the reason the Prem is what it is today. Two pioneers and they defo deserve to be first.
My next nominees would be Sir Bobby Robson, Sir Kenny Dalgleish and Jose Mourinho.
Spot on. The early 90’s football was changing and both of them were at the spear tip of that change. Different approaches but they made the PL exciting and fun to watch where as before it was the most boring league. Serie A was the premier league for football and produced so many legends. But the PL took that to another level with the work of men like Sir Alex and Arsene Wenger.
Did United go a season unbeaten no wenger is clear
@@bilboswaggings0 put Wenger UCL in the table
@@bilboswaggings0 awful tale
@@bilboswaggings0 awful take not one person alive genuinely believes wenger was better than sir Alex
We needed this. Thanks true geordie for paying homage to these 2 managers and 2 teams
Wenger was a perfectionist in style of play and consistency (hence the beautiful football and longest unbeaten run. But arguably his own downfall, as he didn't adapt enough), with Sir Alex, he was an absolute winner. That was his focus. He knew how to rebuild teams and when to let players go. His ruthlessness, was his winning instinct.
Fergie levels above Wenger
Yeh it’s actually disrespectful to have them both in the same conversation . You could argue Pep has overtaken Wenger already
@@lexdemerindol320 Its not disrespectful. They had a great rivalry, not seen since in the PL. Plus Wenger was very influential on shaping what the pl is today. Worthy of the hall of fame for sure.
@@gooner_duke2756 of course Wenger worthy of hall of fame, but he isnt in the same level as Fergie.
@@KaitoMinato I've not heard anyone claim otherwise. Its obvious
tbf we can't ever forget Marc Albrighton and Lionel Messi for their amazing 7 Ballon d'Ors between them. True legends of the sport
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Bro I’m an Arsenal fan and this comment is so damn funny all I can do is laugh… point taken and yeah fergie is out of sight I agree
Ronaldo is better than both of them combined tbh.
Quaresma instead of Albrighton would be a better analogy.
Very well done
Your right Brian the way Leon Edwards out pointed Kamaru Usman can never be forgotten
Geordie, love this mate. These 2 are huge parts of the Premier League era ❤
For me, the biggest success that can be highlighted for Fergie is how nobody could pin him down and finish him off. He built success and then won it back from the likes of Wenger, Jose and City. He always managed to have the last laugh before he chose to retire on top
Love you Brian. Keep building back.
They really did shape the Premier League into what it is today. Their rivalry, their personalities, the players in their teams etc. And now there's a great degree of respect between them.
Love hearing you wax poetic about the game. Made me, an American who didn’t grow up seeing that era of football, really get an a deeper appreciation for two figureheads of the English game and an turn the worldwide game.
Nice to see kick off still flying and being entertaining. Brian is a good lad.
Glad he still is carrying on after the snakes left
People who disrespect wenger need their head checking he absolutely shaffed by the board at arsenal in his later years, constantly losing his best players to rivals and not getting them replaced, p.s I’m a United fan
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Absolute legends of the football. Both are the purest definitions and examples of what Prem League managers should be and what many current Prem managers strive to be. They laid the foundation for the what the Prem League is today.
Really enjoying the recent format of football content Brian! 🔥
Loved this positivity Brian. Would love for you to do more videos like this. You are great at critiquing people/topics/systems. This whole video had a real good feel-good factor going through it and put me in a better mood. Whereas, the critique vids tend to make me frustrated as you are bringing my awareness to all the bullshit in the world! Spread the love mate.
Grew up supporting Man Utd back when we were always just nearly men except for FA cups and I was actually upset when Ron Atkinson was sacked but the way Fergie turned that club into winners was something to behold, when we won our first league it wasn't even the 26 year wait that made it special for me it was that Bryan Robson (another geordie) got to list the trophy after all he had done for the club.
I will always have the memories of that era. Thankyou Sir Alex and Wenger was an amazing foe
I’m never not frustrated by people suggesting that Arsene Wenger was hounded out of Arsenal. The fact is he left Arsenal a few years too late into his Arsenal career, and wanting to move on and grow from the incredible foundations that Wenger set for us was not only right, but absolutely necessary at that point.
And STILL the moment Wenger’s departure was announced my heart completely sank. There’s only two heroes of mine that I literally love, and that’s Wenger and Muhammad Ali.
There are idiots in every fan base, stop painting us all with the same brush. Two things can be true .. it was true that it was right for Wenger to leave, and it is true that we will never have another manager like Arsene.
Considering he brought about the most success in a condensed period within Arsenal's history, on top of a golden premier league trophy and established them as part of the Liverpool and Manchester United dominant trio in British football, you would think he would get more respect towards the end. Sure it was time for him to part ways with Arsenal after underachieving (debatably) with his team for two seasons (coming second just two seasons prior.) But the banners around the stadium, the chants about him needing to go, AFTV throwing abuse at him almost every video, you would think he was not only some random manager only there for a few seasons at most, but underachieving beyond belief. He was still playing attractive football on a shoe string budget and maintained top 4 for essentially 20 seasons. Emery and Arteta both struggled to get anywhere near top 4 after spending loads more. Not exactly just a few fans that threw abuse and forced him out
He was hounded out of arsenal mate, as a fan myself since 1983 I still feel shame in how we treated him towards the end.
@@danielmarsh1376 Arsene Wenger revealed he was leaving Arsenal at the tail end of the season and received standing ovations, chants and whatever else in his final games before a great sendoff. He most certainly was not treated like just any other manager in that regard.
You also can’t spin the prolonged slump Arsenal were under with Wenger either. FA cups papered over the cracks, but you know that the season we finished second we never actually entered the title race, we just pipped Spurs to second after they collapsed. Arsenal hadn’t put up a sustained effort to win the premier for over a decade under Wenger, and it was compounded by his last two seasons where we now couldn’t even achieve champions league, and all the more frequent occasions where Arsenal would be embarrassed 4-0, 5-0, 6-0, 8-2 by teams who we used to be able to compete with, and ultimately Unai Emery was left with a terrible squad to work with the following season.
Even Wenger himself said he stayed too long.
As for AFTV, I genuinely don’t give a damn about them, but I also don’t put any blame on them for Arsenals failures over that time period .. because if you do, then the only logical conclusion is that you must give AFTV credit for the way this season is panning out right? No? I don’t think AFTV deserve any credit for the success this season either.
@@danielmarsh1376 you say this as if Liverpool and City fans wouldn’t treat Klopp and Guardiola any worse when they eventually dry up at their clubs.
@@yessir6947 his departure was met with a classy article on the website, a statue, a farewell tour where he got standing ovations at every ground he went to, guards of honour, he was gifted Arsenals historic golden premier league invincibles trophy and he got to address the fans and players after his final game.
It was his time to leave, the frustration was real, it was justified, some fans went too far (every set of fans have idiots), but there is no man more loved or respected at Arsenal the Wenger.
Really enjoy this type of content.
Going one season undefeated is impressive but ... the zipper on Arsene's coat went undefeated season after season! True greatness!
Dennis Bergkamp was the absolute best man
I would pretty much watch Arsenal games bc of him
He was just truly amazing the finesse the class seemingly effortless like therapeutic football.
Zidane was similar man those were the days
Love this style of content! Class video
Great video. It's good to look back at the legends.
Great video!!! Spitting pure facts.
Great video Brian! Great to see the stream of content coming back to the norm, but mixing it up with more random topics! Keep it up bro :)
The fact that SAF won the league title with Cleverly in the midfield put him as the goat. No debate.
Class vid as always Brian. Much better now all the barking seals have jumped ship.
Measured, information, passionate, knowledgeable, honest
Quality content. From a pool fan
Brilliant video, Geordie!
loved this brian great video
The fact that it’s a topic ppll forget how great these 2 managers were is so funny. Ppll have very short memories in football wow.
Great content,Recommend everyone that started following the premier league past 2005
i have so much love for Arsenal & Arsene Wenger ♥️ that 2 nil Wembley win vs Newcastle in 99 was were it started for me.
Brilliant video 👏🏻
Brilliant. I'm a Utd fan and I'm not really interested in who was better than who but that rivalry was box office in the 90s. If you weren't old enough go and look it up as it was top draw. It's good to see now they are good friends. Whilst money has always been a factor in the Premier League this was just before oil rich countries became a factor. Excellent Post True Geordie.
Simply the best
Loved this
Props to geordie for how he is moving lately, keep grinding sir.
Loved the intro Brian would be good if you can always let us know the streams your doing. 👍😃
Loved the vid Brian! I share your passion and appreciation for these two legends. Thierry Henry is only 6’2”, bro - tall but not a man mountain
Only 6'2 😭😂
Great video!
We've had some of the best players and Manager's in Keane and Ferguson which was a dream combination
I think I agree with your points man. Fergie is a football genius, won more trophies and is the greatest ever but you could argue, as you damn well did, that Wenger had just as much influence on the rise of PL through the diet, training, sports science, and style of play. They both changed the game and changed it by levels. I’m glad they go in together. Well done, and well said
First learnt about that unbeaten Arsenal side on an old manager pc game, could never beat them, took me a few years of growing up to realise why
Well said Brian
Class video bro nice one
Wenger changed English football forever. The whole of the premier league now looks a little bit like that Arsenal team he created.
Fergie was the original mentality monster, the highland general.
Great video
Unbelievable video Brian! We are all very fortunate fans watching contents like this. Keep up the great work!
I really hate that Hall of Fame because they’re not being genuine. John Terry and Ryan Giggs would be in the first five inductees if it wasn’t for controversy which has nothing to do with how good they were as players
I mean, reputation is important. You get some leeway but those two had criminal investigations into their actions - that's not to mention shagging their brother's and team mates wives.
But has everything to do as role models which people also say footballers should be
100% deserved for their longevity, Jose should be next and I wouldn’t say Jose even has much less trophies in England than Wenger and Mourinho never finished behind Wenger as far as I know too, he might have at United though
Brian has definitely made the channel different now 💪
Quality video 👊🏻 loved that
Wenger is the best ❤😂🎉😢😮😅
Great video. I just subbed 😊 but SAF should have been inducted on his own, then Wenger after as they were miles apart, but Wenger was a brilliant coach, and challenger. In my opinion, of course 👊🏾
Good video . I had same feeling towards fergie hated the fact he wasnt at my club i was sick of seeing man utd lift everything . Fergie abd wenger legends
Arsene Wenger was an absolute sensation. The only reason he doesn't have the longevity is because of money! Guy was fighting against open cheque book billionaires with a few spare change that he found at the bottom of the sofa. If football was a level playing field Wenger would not only win everything but he would do it with style. No other manager is ever building a team with 2million unknown Pires from marseille or a 3.7m Vieria career going nowhere at Milan or a 500k for the likes of Kolo Toure and Anelka. Guy was so good, shame football became all about the money rather than pure managerial talent. Fergie was immense too but spent the most money pretty much everytime breaking transfer records with 30m rio, 30m rooney, 30m berbatov, 25m veron etc which is why I rate Wenger so high that he was able to even compete and outclass united at times.
Lol enough with this narrative already, Fergie DOMINATED 90's English football with only the 7th highest net spend from the beginning of EPL till the end of the decade.
Oh yeah, he also carry Aberdeen to a European title beating the likes of Munich and Madrid on the way to do that. He doesnt need money to won what Arsene Wenger never won and that's a fact.
@@KaitoMinato Man Utd were the financial monster ahead of everyone let’s be honest. Even know they’ve spent even more than City. It’s fine man doesn’t take away his trophies but let’s not act like United didn’t constantly break transfer records under him
@@HT008 Like i said United have the 7th highest net spend in 90's when Fergie DOMINATED English football. GTFO with your agenda, Fergie can and did win A LOT without much money. There's level to this and Wenger isnt on SAF level.
@@KaitoMinato yes because of money 😂😂😂
That was brilliant to watch really enjoyed it 👍🏿
For me Wenger.s best achievement was selling best players every year, o money, buying youngsters and getting top 4 consistently, challenging on a few occasions
Wenger is still the only manager who turned virtually unknowns into world class players like Anelka, Petit, Silvinho, Ljunberg, Sir Alex Ferguson on the other hand instill the winning mentality that is still missing in the current Man Utd squad. He made teams like Inter (with CR9 and Vieri in attack), Juventus (Zidane, Del Piero, Davids in it) look average. He made Man Utd a terrifying club not just in England but the entire Europe, winning 2 UCLs in the process
Anelka wasn't unknown, neither was Petit or Silvinho. They were all internationals.
Too many bashing Wenger saying he isn’t in the same bracket. Let’s add context. Fergie was able to regularly break transfer records whilst Wenger made the club self sufficient and paid off stadium at the same time. Had he taken his offers from Real or whatever you’d all be saying differently about him. He kept us in the UCL spots with the likes of Chamakh and Bendtner for example, many players well over performed. If he accepted those offers you’d see him differently. One can only imagine the force he would’ve created with similar financial backing.
Should of mentioned the Keane and viera rivalry. That was epic and nothing compares to it. Hate arsenal from them days and even still United beating arsenal is more joyful than Liverpool or city personally
Bergkamp joined Arsenal before Wenger did btw, that aside the amount of players Wenger introduced to the Premier League is top tier, especially the fees, incredible. People think of the likes of Brighton recently and Leicester with the of Kante and Mahrez picking up relatively unknown players that turned out to be top players but Wenger was doing this with full squads before technology was so advanced with scouting etc. Ofc there was a few duds along the way but even players within that time like a Ramsey cost 5mil, Holding who's still playing in the squad for a similar fee, Adebayor was under that fee. Even players who were laughed at mostly like a Bendtner, he was getting close to/sometimes double figures within a season, went on to have an incredible international career.. he cost around 100k.
Their maybe managers who will win more trophies then them hard to get past Fergie but still but these two and Mourinho is what made premier league iconic for me as managers
Did I just here this guy giving praise to united
Wenger tied himself legally to the new stadium and was thinking long term with arsenal. His legacy was tied to it. Arsenal fans disgusted everyone I think when they couldn't be satisfied with a financially recovering club finishing top four and winning cups with a bang average squad. Short term thinking can ruin an institution.
As a kid , sometimes I thought arsenal is actually owned by arsene Wenger becoz of well his name arsene
Had to double take. The pic of Fergie in the thumbnail looked like Ian Hislop
First to comment😅
Good to see Geordie 🙌
Damn, Paul Scholes had a nearly 3d brain that's mad
You can disrespect Bruce's managerial careerr all you want. But he was a brilliant defender, captained United to early success under Fergie scored loads of goals from CB .... put some respect on his name
I’m a similar age to Brian and also a Newcastle fan, yep fergie ruined my childhood 😅.
Everybody needs someone to hate to drive them on to challenge them Fergie had arsen Wenger and Wenger hard Fergie they needed each other to challenge themselves
Definitely. In an interview with T. Henry. He said the utd/arsenal rivalry, pushed both clubs to extraordinary levels, never repeated: utd's 99' treble and our 49 unbeaten run. Competition is definitely a good thing.
Two game changing managers but let's be honest, 3 to 13 titles is quite a contrast.
It's more like 3 to 7 titles because fergie won like 6 titles before Wenger showed up in England. Also, you cannot discount the fact that arsenal had severe financial constraints for most of wengers second half in pl. United were setting transfer records all the time back then.
Why does it feel like this is the 5th 6th time Newcastle have played Man u this season
Bruce Rioch signed Bergkamp, not Wenger.
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Hold up, do we all have 2D brains?
Saddens me that Wenger couldnt adapt to the modern game/spending, he held on to the old way of building a club until the very end, gave me my best years as a supporter though so no hate only love, enjoy retirement mate, COYGssss
Sir Alex Ferguson is the Best ever after Mourinho
Somehow found a way to call Steve Bruce fat in here 😅😊
I love Brian
SAF being the GOAT isn’t an opinion brain but fact, 13 premier league title 3 European cups. Like come on find me a greater manger.
sad how the kick off fell away
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Wenger is an EPL great but let's stop with this BS he was hounded out of Arsenal. The guy had more than enough time to turn the club around but was only taking it backwards. It took Arteta years to clean up his mess. I love the guy but that doesn't mean I'm gonna forget what the reality is.
He was kept there, it’s not his fault. He should’ve been sacked.
He was hounded out of Arsenal? Banners around the ground, chants begging him to leave, AFTV throwing abuse and attacking him almost every video. That sounds like hounding to me. Maybe it was time to leave, but to treat their best ever asset like they did getting them a golden trophy, top four for essentially for 20 seasons and did that with almost 0 investment.
@@danielmarsh1376 Those banners only came out the last season. He'd been given 10 years to turn it around by that point. And money ain't everything, Wenger laid his fair share of eggs in the transfer market. I don't think you'll find any other club that would show more patience to a manager and that's precisely because he was so revered.
Brian with the Steve Bruce again 🙄 a man the captained United to PL titles have some respect for the man as a footballer
Edwards usman ?
They are not on the same level SAF is a tier above
Ugh the way he pronounced Wenger ran through me and I'm a utd fan.
I think adding these at the same time is an insult to Sir Alex. The man is levels above Wenger. Do not get me wrong, he deserves the accolade, but doing it at the same time is like giving a lifetime achievement to Muhammed Ali and Lennox Lewis the same day. Both great..... but not the same
Oh cmon
Telekinisik 😂
Thumbnail looks ai
Who forgets anyway?
Hall of fame is an American thing,is sad that a lot of futbol fans are selling their souls for likes
Wenger clear of fergie
Brilliant
Comparing any of these new managers to wenger and fergie is ridiculous. Fergie and wenger didn’t inherit the teams pep has, and sustained success better than pep and klopp with less money. And they actually played enjoyable football instead of playing percentage ball.
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Man Utd spent a lot of money in the 90s and early 00s. Inflation makes it seem like that’s not the case but it was. In todays money they certainly spent more than klopp at Liverpool.
Who do you think should be inducted next
I’m a United fan and Fergie and Wenger are the goats, but come on. Pep Guardiola changed football and is a huge pioneer in why football is so attacking nowadays, Klopp isn’t there yet but his talent for management is obvious. To do what he did with the team he had shows his greatness
Ferguson yes but Wenger for me was a failure after his first ten seasons..
He spent 22 seasons to get three league wins and NOTHING in Europe. Despite having some of the best players of that era in Henry, Bergkamp, Vieira, Pires, van Persie, Ljungberg, Cole and a million others.
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Well done
I agree with alot of was said. But I'm still to say, Carrick is the most overatted , sideways passer , no energy and lifeless footballer I've seen
Sorry did I hear Michael Carrick a 'good' player... just a good player? Has this guy only just started watching football or something
Don't worry that's not the only bad take I've heard. Rants N Bants said KDB only has a few qualities and is very average, which is nonsense, he is a very complete midfielder and world class
As good as wenger was fergie is way ahead of him. 13 titles to 3 and wenger never retained a title