Majora's True Identity? - Zelda Theory
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- Nintendo may not want us to know what's inside that mask, but can it be figured out anyway? Time to theorize.
If you liked this one, there's a followup you can see right here about the Fierce Deity:
• The Fierce Deity's Ide...
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If you were wondering where I've been for the last month or however long it's been, I was working on this on-and-off the whole time (and Spore is broken again). It started getting rough by the end since my computer remains average at best to this day and loading the entire project every time I wanted to work on it started to get difficult. It eventually got to the point where I could only work on it for about ten minutes before the editor crashed. I wish I could have gone into even more detail on some of these things and touched on a couple other topics during this, but it was getting pretty bogged down and lengthy as is. I really underestimated how difficult this particular topic would be to cover.
A sort of elephant in the room here is that this one actually contradicts my Cia video. I considered trying to fit the two together so they both make sense, but that wound up being a road block in the idea. Part of the fun of theories is that they don't have to work together, and as long as they're not too implausible, it can be interesting to look at things from a different perspective. In fact, being able to look at the game in different ways is part of why I like it so much. Regardless though, just remember that this was all for fun. I'm not pretending this is fact or anything, just a new way to look at things. Hopefully, you enjoy. - Hry
If you were about to comment about the manga being the explanation, I would like to address that first. While they were made by Nintendo, they were made after the fact and elements from them do not affect the main series. There are numerous instances where they directly contradict the games, and should be viewed as their own, separate canon. There are minor things, like Majora giving Link the Fierce Deity mask for no real reason, but also major things like an iteration of Link carving the mask himself; while that's an interesting plot point, it doesn't really make sense in reference to the games since there isn't enough information given, meaning you could assume pretty much anything and it most likely wouldn't have any more evidence than any other theory. As important elements like era, world rules and detailed origins are missing, as well as the overall presentation of the Majora chapter being very vague, I would argue that backstory took inspiration from old myths and is meant to be more of a legend. Sure, assumptions could be made, but it's difficult to quantify something like that when many important details are left unclear.
While the manga should be viewed as its own canon, that doesn't make it worthless information. It might be possible to theorize about on its own, and it still stands as an interesting reinterpretation, but things presented in it do not apply to the games.
That does make sense, though didn't Hyrule Historia count them as canon? So, which is the real canon? Could it be possible that the manga explanation is his own destroyed psyche?
The events depicted in the game and manga don't really add up in a way that would make sense, and I mean that beyond things like inconsistencies between games. If Majora was a dragon of some kind, I'd imagine that would have played into the game somehow. While the manga was written later, it could have been retconned with the 3DS port, as they updated a number of other things with it. I do like the idea of the manga being more of an artistic representation, as you suggested, since that would nicely clean up the discrepancy issue between the two stories by making one more symbolic than literal.
True, true. To be honest I haven't read the manga in quite some time nor have I done nearly as much research as you have so I do believe your theory has more validity in game canon than the manga's representation
I mean this guy knows his stuff. So I dunno. Hyrule historia seems to lead you to believe the manga are canon, but certain things just don't add up as he says. This is going into the OOT manga but for example one glaring difference, among many others not only in the OOT but also MM manga, is that Link fights his shadow in Kakariko village, and his shadow is the entity in the well. So whether the book wants you to believe it's canon or not, it just doesn't add up to me
i need not say more about it. thou i shall, it is stated in the Game that Majora's mask belonged to an ancient tribe that used it in rituals and such. But how many time has passed since what happend in the Manga? The manga origin of the Mask, can be AND should be viewed as a legend or myth about how it was created. What happend to the mask after it's creation? tribe's used it, until they sealed it away fearing it's power and then yeaaars later the happy mask salesman finds it going throu quote ''terrible lengths'' to obtain that mask. And BTW anyone who reads manga and watches anime/plays games knows Manga/game/Anime always diverts from the original source material, but not in a way that it changes everything.
Everyone asks "Who is Majora?" but nobody asks "How is Majora?".
Majora doesnt feel so good, Link
Insane and lonely
Or where is Majora?
Why is Majora?
dead
I still hate that out of all the great things in Majora's Mask, the ONLY thing that was carried over into other games was Tingle.
and Link ヽ( ͡°╭͜ʖ╮͡° )ﾉ
And Anju.....she's in Minish Cap.....really, no joke.
Birbddha But she originated in OOT, so it dosen't count
Tingle, Tingle, Kooloo Limpah!!!
skull kid was in oot
Majora's real identity was actually the friends we made along the way.
Excuse me?
Do you have any evidence for that claim?
Majora ok
Bold of you to assume I made friends
@@ferretrevelvent6793 lol, I would have been a dick
I'm so down for this, even the creepy way Ghirahim moves around is like Majora - honestly adored this so much
Thanks for spoiling the video before I even watched it top comment smh
@@sorenpinelli5479 watch the video before going to comments noob
@@sorenpinelli5479 i know im late to the picture to comment lmao. but perhaps you should watch the video b4 reading the comments?
@@MrSimenGrymy he commented on how it was ghirahim and the video is about how he thinks he could be majora
@@sorenpinelli5479 dont read the comment section b4 watrching an entire video.
"where is Majora?"
"I'll do you one better; who is Majora?"
"I'll do you one better; why is Majora?"
I'll do you one better, falling Majora
"But no one ever asked "How is Majora?""
@@blackflamelvl2007 damn you. That was my comment.
Well I guess the scene where Thanos breaks apart a moon and rains down meteors make sense now.
I’ll do you one better. When is Majora?
Imagine if Ganondorf used Majora's Mask, and with that theory correct, imagine the boost the mask would give him by noticing he was Demise's reincarnation. Holy shit.
Nintendo should listen to this and make the most horrifying, awesome enemy
Luis Ernesto Osuna Rosales how the freak will link beat him
@@jaymyster7262 with the combined power of the Fierce Deity and the Triforce
Bruno Frazão holy crap yes
or the fierce deity
Everybody gangsta til the triforce puts on majora’s mask.
Lmfao!!!!
Isn't that game haunted
shhhhhhhhhhhhh***********************************t!!!!!!
**Game cartridge pops out the console**
The "Shekia" theory is now even stronger thanks to the "Yiga" in Breath of the Wild and how some of them are evil
Megan Chandler Sheikah*
@@0oh_no :(
Though that wouldn't be possible since it is established that majora was created before the timeline split and even though the sheikah were exiled 10,000 years before botw it's still likely that it happened at the end of all timelines
As you were implying Skyward Sword, my brain was going "If I spent 20 freaking minutes just for you to say the legendary Majora's Mask is Groose I'll eat my own hat"
Majora's Mask needs a sequel... seriously.
I agree. MM is too much of a masterpiece of a game to be left alone. It NEEDS a sequel. And you know what? Knowing Nintendo, and hearing that Happy Mask Salesman could appear in another Zelda game in the future, I have no doubt in my mind they might do that someday. :)
Until then, let's bother Nintendo about it! XD
Probably that new Zelda game coming out has him.
Maybe. I just hope it's not an needless cameo...it probably might be, but hey, I guess it's better than nothing. Still, a sequel with a bigger Termina(like BotW), along with a creative origin of what Majora and HMS could be would be pretty awesome. :)
Jaiso I'm just waiting for Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask to get remade for the WII U.
the idea of a sequel gets me aroused
“We’ve never seen Hyrule do anything... immoral.” How about the banishing of
The Gerudo to the desert, and hoarding a beautiful and vast country for itself?
“I coveted that wind, I suppose.” ~Gannondorf, (LoZ) Wind Waker
Don't forget what the Shiekah did in Oot with the bottom of the Well and the Shadow temple, there is blood and torture devices all over the place.
@@Darkmirror7 Watch the video again boi
There’s no evidence to suggest that the Gerudo were banished to the desert.
Commander Blox A lack of them being around is not evidence that they were thrown out.
Commander Blox No it’s not. That’s like going to a friend’s house, finding out they’re not home and assuming this means they were evicted. It’s nothing more than a possibility. No more likely than any of the others. It’s just as possible they moved a little deeper in the desert. Or they adopted a more clandestine method of living after the war. All that is made evident in Twilight Princess is that we don’t see them in the desert. That’s not evidence of anything beyond the fact that we don’t see them.
15:30 “majoras mask would make Ganondorf impossible to stop.” Bruh in LTTP he had the entire Triforce and got beat by some kid
It's possible Majora is more powerful than the full triforce
The mask is likely more powerful than the fill Triforce. And with both, Ganon would've been basically a god.
The hero of time isnt just a kid
Annie Tool I was talking about link to the past but ok
@@pinkballs1228 ino, but hes still the hero of time in both games
Majora is a cucco from ocarina of time that wants revenge
Better than a dragon who was so bored he wanted to die to a long song.
What if the ancant tribe was a bunch of cuccos
The fact that it makes chicken noises during it's boss battle makes this a scarily possible theory. Evidence is evidence.
Majoras mask loses its power at the end of the game
P L O T
T W I S T
Creates one of the most interesting bloodstained kingdoms in a Zelda universe. Only transfers Tingle.
Actually Tingle was in OoT :p
@@demonphysician What? No he isn't, you sure you aren't confusing for Oracle of Ages?
@@himeoftwili Not sure honestly, extremely tired writing that :p
Because he was wrong!!!! Tingle is the true identity of the Mask. He couldn't defeat us fair and square, now haunts our games as a last F U!!!!
CatholicGamer Squad he calls Link a fairy.
There should definitely be another game that involves Majoras mask. There’s just so much mystery behind it.
Imagine Ganon dies in botw 2 and at the end of the maybe dlc it shows majora for a split second showing text saying "ok... my turn, ready for round 2"
More importantly whats inside the mask??
Mermaid man: Eviiiiiiiillll!!
Eveeiiiiillll!
Eviiieeeeelll
Eviiiiiiilllllll!! (On a water fountain)
Pure depression and a hint of rage...
I like how people are still making theories about a game that came out like 18 years ago. It just shows how great this game is. How did nintendo make this in only 1 year?
Who knew it was 2018 because i didnt
Fuji Rinkles its not its 2017
BOIII
what
Most of the assets are reused from Ocarina of Time, I'd imagine that would save them quite a bit of time and make it a lot easier.
When you create an original piece of art and it gets possessed by a demon
It's so hard being an artist these days.
Haha!
Canyon Crossing Never confirmed it was a demon or anything.
JC 1000 sorry I didn’t go into depth enough. But majora isn’t necessarily a demon it is technically a god. As mentioned in the game.
The Little Ghost Happens all the time for me
I literally found the loz Majora's mask manga in my school library
A *SCHOOL* library
Damn, I wish xD
My school library was where I first read it. Now it’s my favorite book.
This man has been blessed by the goddess, everyone respect him
That's culture
My school library is worthless books are bad and soo little books
As a child playing Majora's mask, I always believed that Majora's mask had come from some sort of indigenous like tribe; jungle like people with dark powerful magic. I would even picture the tribe wearing colorful feathers on their garments, in a jungle like setting, doing magical rituals during the night around a fire. 😂
man im tellin ya it was the zonai
CLOUD B. Me too lol
Which leads me to believe that the zonai could be the ones that created the mask. I’m hoping that the sequel explores more of the ancient tribe.
Donkey Kongs people
You were not the only one... Rest assured...
" Is it even possible...? This whole time... could Majora be..."
Me: GROOSE
Jesus christ yes I know what the meaning of life is
I read groose as goose (and thought specifically the one from the untitled goose game) and I don't know which one I prefer
I am so glad I wasn't the only one who literally shouted that at my monitor.
Untitled Groose Game
@@chainbladeallience Me to I yelled GROOSE at the middle of the night
Intro
"What exactly is behind that mask?"
The person who wears it
★ Cuddlepuff ★ XD
★ Cuddlepuff ★ no the mask controls a skull kid you didn't understand the thing is who made it and who had it
I wish I could tell this guy that!
Brandon Bevill I know
★ Cuddlepuff ★ XD lol
Okay, all memes aside, this is one of the best made theories I have ever seen. It takes lore from a lot of places, debunks some popular theories, and has a twist that I didn’t see coming but still makes 100% sense with the lore. Nicely done, man, you just earned yourself a subscriber.
Actually, my theory is that Termina exists across the timelines, which could explain the mask in LBW. In WW, Phantom Ganon has text that references the two blacksmiths from the Mountain Smithy. Termina could be the secret to how BotW exists in “all timelines” as well
Termina has no Hero, no Princess and no Demon King. It already doesn't make sense as to *where* Termina exists. Inside a tree stump and there are clocks when you are falling? And Skull Kid can leave at any time? What is that!
Termina exists outside of time and would be a pocket dimension in the void, hence Majora's powers. He's the opposite of the three Goddesses who created Hyrule, a being of nothingness and destruction not bound by anything except it's own reality it plays with. And ALTTP Link having the mask would only work if it came directly from Termina, as that is the failed timeline where link dies from Ganon, and this happens after that split in time. I would also believe that the Shadow realm would be akin to Termina as both have similar sources of power, involve dark magic, transformations, and cursed spirits or the dead.
Why am I watching Zelda theories at 2 am
Dragonshy lmao same 😂
2:10am here lmao
4:12, amateur.
🤣🤣🤣 childhood questions need answers! AT ANY HOUR!
2:26 here
''the sheikah have always served the royal family without betrayal.''
BOTW: am i a joke to you?
Aren't those the Yiga?
BladeOfLight16 the yiga and the sheikah are the same people
@@hraa344 I thought they were an off shoot, while the main tribe remained loyal: zelda.gamepedia.com/Sheikah#Breath_of_the_Wild
@@hraa344 no they aren't, Yigas are just Sheikah ripoff
@@hraa344 if a group splits from its origins and claims a different name and goal they are no longer the same. Race yes, but they no longer align with the sheikah.
Legend of Zelda: Majora's Origins sounds like a good game title.
The Legend Of Zelda: Terrible Fate
@@pixipads terrible fate sounds like the end of a story, instead of origin. We already know the "terrible fate" of Majora.
Majorigins, the knock off series of majora mask
The Legend of Zelda: Cursed Image
Lmao
Grant Carr The legend of Zelda:blursed comments
Can we get a game where Ganon gets Majora's Mask and Link gets the Fierce Deity's Mask please?
I feel like that would be a hyrule warriors game
Manga Majora: I wish I could time could start and I could die
Random hero: Then p e r i s h . *starts playing music*
Ari Bar *plays Saria's Song*
Plays song of time 🤣
What if, the song, no, he never would have, did he...
Rick Roll the dragon!?!?!?!?
Link used Perish Song, all Pokemon who hear the song will faint in 3 turns.
Ari Bar basically DnD as a bard
Impa could be the empty part of the triforce. A empty (shadow) that still helps make balance among the power, wisdom, and courage.
bruh
and so do i :/
Majora's the sith Lord we've been looking for
wait.. impossible.. no it couldn't be... *GROOSE*
Uh, no.
You have cracked the case you could make millions😂
I know it
It all makes sense now
T H E G R O O S E I S L O O S E
"But most importantly what's inside it"
Me: wood
That's literally me.
WOAH I GOT 144 LIKES HOLY CRAP
Dude Swagmaster cringe
Tubba blubba’s heart
Dude Swagmaster and dark magic.
"I don't think the interlopers created the mask, their aesthetic is all about lines, light, and stone...it was the Sheikah instead"
BotW Sheikah technology: Am I a joke to you?
Just a youtube commenter Yeah, but BotW is so scuffed in the timeline...
It’s at the end
Fishyfishyfishy500 AKA BS Yeah, but if you check, Nintendo said that “This combines the Timelines.” Which makes no sense.
There is a theory that Hyrule Warriors had actually combined the timelines due to its timeline hopping, and that BoTW takes place after HW. However Nintendo says that HW isnt canon so it could all be scuffed. Nintendos own timeline doesnt work so its impossible to really say
@@pzb1017 The way I think of it isnt three separate times becoming one, but more of a "no matter what road you take, the destination is the same" sort of thing, so no matter the timeline, BOTW is inevitable
So, weird thought: Lorule and Hyrule are like weird reflections of each other, Lorule having a darker twist to things.
What if the Interlopers/Twili originally came from Lorule with Demise (separate theory, that), bringing the Fused Shadow with them. Meanwhile, the Hyrulean version, Majora's Mask, was found to be too powerful, and annoyingly sentient, and locked away.
Here’s a hot take:
So, the war that created the Twili. People from Hyrule were sealed away in the Twilight Realm and became the Twili over time-in game these people are only referred to as interlopers.
Interloper can be defined as someone who is in a situation or setting that they don’t belong in.
Consider this, then: a group of Sheikah betrays the King and joins up with the people who were, in the time period around OoT, loyal to Ganondorf-the Gerudo. This is somewhere where they don’t belong, working together with a different tribe.
They try to take the Triforce, and together, the Gerudo and Sheikah who participated in the war are sealed away in the Twilight Realm.
Then, over time, they’re physically and mentally changed, as well as having children together, resulting in a new life form all together, with its own traditions, architecture, and art style.
Perhaps, many of them even forget being anything other than Twili.
(This could even be the source of the Yiga clan. We know in BotW that the Yiga have been around for at least 10,000 years, maybe even longer, so it could have been formed by the traitors who managed to remain in hiding after the war. This isn’t a statement on timeline placement.)
So, while the Twili are very different than the Sheikah...is it that much of a stretch to say that the war happened because a faction of the Sheikah defected, they were sealed away, and over a long period of time they were changed, they evolved, due to the harsh, dark environment of the Twilight realm? I mean, we’ve seen fish turn into birds, and children turn into...tree...people...
With that being said I agree with the rest of this theory as a whole. We also don’t know exactly when the Fused Shadow was created, only that it’s Twili related, and the Interlopers had it BEFORE they were sealed away. To the Twili, it’s ancient, and unlike anything they themselves have created in the Twilight Realm.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
When Link see Majora's Mask:
''Why not pick it up and hang it on my wall''
Zelda Fans:
''So all the time Link has been Majora's true owner?
good vid btw :)
ERROR EROR ERRRRRRRROOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
8:50-9:17
Damn. And I thought the FNaF Timeline was confusing.
Teeth
I laughed at that part.like its confusing
HAHAH The mask of '87, when Ganondorf Afton was opening Hyrule's 5th sister location, the Lost Rooms
I always assumed that "Majora" was the name of the tribe that originally created the mask, and that the malice and insanity that resides within the mask (along with its power) was the collective of the tribe that created it.
1) If you REALLY want to know what Majora's Mask is, take a closer look at it. Do you see it? It's a HEART with spikes coming out of it, it's a symbol of pain / despair.
2) Skull Kid is a foil for Link. Skull Kid is so depressed over his giant friends ignoring him, that he's going to throw it all away despite Tatl & Tael being there for him. This is a reflection of how of Link is so depressed over Navi leaving him, that he's practically throwing it all away, despite all the friends he's leaving behind (not just child Zelda, but every friend he made in Ocarina of Time).
3) The Happy Mask Salesman is based on Shigeru Miyamoto, kind of like how Stan Lee created J. Jonah Jameson as how everybody else in the office saw Stan Lee as, and Jack Kirby was worried about new owners devouring Marvel that he created Galactus who was a character that literally devoured worlds.
...also, not only is Tingle supposed to be the Termina version of Link, he is also a reflection of the player (a 35 year old who wants to pretend he's a boy dressed in green running around having adventures)
imgur.com/a/pKRk552
Also, if you take a closer look, the Fierce Diety Mask, Majora's Mask, and Odalwa's Mask are all from the same "set" it seems. They've all got two curves below the eyes, and a weird curving shape above the area between the eyes.
The Twili are descended from a sect of the Sheikah, so they could definitely be responsible for the creation of the mask.
TheMadMadman I need a monster to clober that dang Kirby..
TheMadMadman, who said they are?
It's a decently supported theory. The biggest piece of evidence being an altered Shiekah eye on some pretty important Twili artifacts, including the Fused Shadow and Zant's throne.
TheMadMadman The sheika has a big part to play in breath of the wild,so this guy predicted breath of the wild
Jo•No I got ur back. That reference deserved praise. Even though a year has passed lol
For the limited concrete info we actually have on Majora, you really managed to connect a lot of dots (speculative dots, but still). Most theories are so far out there I can't get passed the first couple minutes. This was very well thought out theory that seems perfectly plausible to me. We may never know for sure, but this is so poetic it actually makes me love my favorite Zelda game even more than I already did.
"My research" = Played Majora's Mask
Doesn't even know sheik was Zelda.....
I'm confused, he clearly knows about the timeline and the manga (while he did admit is wasn't "canon")
@A Ghost. He knows Sheik is Zelda. His theory is that Impa trained Zelda to become Sheik to provide an emergency successor as well as to protect her identity.
The trick-ity tick frick was up with that jump scare at the end?? I almost dropped my croissant
Are you going to finish that croissant ?
XD
Just a suggestion: Don't eat pastries while watching scary videos.
@@Wolffman109 Lol!
But that ending tho right? :P
Honestly I don't want Nintendo to reveal who Majora is. All these mysterious and theories make the character who it is.
That's weak af
No, I think it’s a good point.
I think it should remain a mystery until they decide to completely end Zelda. And even then it should be something you REEEEEAAAALLY have to look for
They should only reveal it if it appears one last time.
myamotos last words will be:
''majoras is .....''
Thos is pretty interesting. Honestly back when I was a kid playing it on the N64, long before I ever thought about timelines and what not, I always assumed it was someone that was sacrificed by the unnamed tribe and sealed within the mask in the name of power. I assumed a kid or teen because he acts and thinks like a bratty child that has likely been abused. They were sealed inside the mask so the wearer could temp gain their powers to use in those hexing rituals that were mentioned in MM.
Being, a ritual sacrifice gave the child immense power. Eventually as it was used, they became more and more aware, leading to them realizing just how much more powerful than their captors were. Angry about being betrayed by friends and family and only given attention when being used, it started to get angry. As the anger grew it started use it's new awareness to try and rebel in an attempt to break free. Fearing the worst they locked it away for who knows how long (cent I assumed,) which made it longer and more angry. Eventually being locked away with nothing but it's own mind as company, it thought and thought about it's state, leading it to go bat shit eating insane. Everything became irreparably warped as their original moral compass was already skewed due to being a child/teen. As for the similarities in the moon, I didnt think that it cared about the skull kid as much as it used his problems as a way to explain its feelings as it didnt know how to say it itself and it gave a way to express it (it used the images of things it had encountered recently to base things off of sort of like how a brain needs a visual history to create a dream. It may no longer remember the faces or exactly what happened to it due to the isolation. Such things can cause distorted memories. ) it wanted to play becaus it was a child and it wants to make friends but at the same time is mad at everyone because they'll just leave anyways (like an angsty but super psychotic, teen.)
Or at least that is what I assumed when I was a kid. If you cant tell I loved to make up overly complicated stories when I was little. Lol you're theory I think is do much better. Haha
Majora being Gman himself is a theory I adore now, he’s my favorite Zelda char
Wait
But the manga makes sense now that i think about it. A hero that came and sang the song (link singing song of TIME) and killed him. The feirce deity mask (the warrior that sang the song in the manga) is given to link and cannot lose to Majora
Its a nice story but its not canon
🤯🤪
Man, when you said "childish mind," I was totally expecting Groose.
Honesty I was going for Zant
What the f*** is Groose?
This was by far one of the most well thought out explanation and I absolutely love it. Thank you for all the work you put into this!!!
I would love for Majora to reprise its evil role as the boss for an upcoming title. I've had the idea of Ganon looking for this mask for his own gain and realizing that Majora is stronger than he, loses his autonomy and Majora completely possesses him, becoming stronger than before.
Majoras Mask; im the creepiest loz game and give zelda fans nightmares
BOTW 2; hold my switch
We don't know yet if BOTW 2 is entirely creepy
Phantomias "The new Breath of the Wild or the sequel to it, it’s not necessarily going to be related to Majora’s mask or inspired by it... What we showed you currently is a little darker," Aonuma said. I could be interpreting this incorrectly, but I believe the implication is that the the new game will be darker then Majora’s Mask. He could also be saying darker then BOTW. I don’t have the full quote to definitively come to a conclusion on it.
@@marcusnavarro8144 i honestly think it isnt going to be darker, i mean come on we saw a clip of a skeltonized ganondorf and suddenly its darker than MM a game where some of the people are prepared to accept there fate at the hands of the falling moon? I dont see why people think its darker just because of that
@@rustaholic2546 Dead neck snapping Ganon, inverted game over theme, whispering in the audio, the facts that the video was designed to give you goosebumps the very second it opened and Nintendo's comment on the game is enough to predict its going to be intense. Not just spoopy ganon.
Majora's mask; *SCREECHES*
BOTW 2; nevermind
just a little info
the kids in majoras mask which wear the masks, they look like kid version of the mask man
super117knight, maybe they are his long lost bastards whom he abandoned and never paid child support to. and being said, it is a wonder why he never turned stalfos
You only become a Stalfos if you get lost.
Flarecrow stalfos are adults who get lost in the woods. Skull kids are children who get lost in worlds.
I know that, I'm talking about the mask salesman you idiot.
0:47 credit to original creator of the footage. Good.
Mind blown I've been trying to figure out who the hell he was the whole time I was playing Skyward Sword. You can see who everyone else is in the timeline except for him. My mind has been blown. That is an awesome realization
You did mention the fact that Majora seemed to have the absorb the intelligence/desires/wishes of those it ate.
Perhaps the mask absorbed some of Skull Kid's loneliness...?
I dunno, Zelda theories make me hurt, but I love them.
One could say the effect of the mask is to infuse the owners with insanity, seeing as Skull Kid progressively goes insane and his loneliness is amplified
President P. Porygon Maybe it’s like a dark magic parasite. In exchange for great magic power it feeds off the negative feelings of its host.
They make you hurt? You know zelda is really basic in terms of depth of lore compared to the Elder Scrolls or something? This is kid level stuff for the most part.
NIgHTMaReFortyTwo I prefer a hidden lore scattered through little clues all around a game than a fuckfest of lore I will never care about.
I tend to think Skull Kid saw the Mask as its only friend. Idk why, lol
I think that the adventurer in the manga is the soul behind the fierce deity mask
because it is
But the adventurer wasn’t looked at as the bad guy by majora in the end
But why would he do that, if he thought that the power would be trapped inside Majora's Mask? Perhaps he wanted to serve as a guardian, in case something bad happened.
Majura 374 It is
That was absolutely amazing. Thank you for all of the things you put together to create something worth watching and listening to
"Powers it definitely does have: teleportation," I wouldn't say definitely, because it was on skull-kid and skull-kids can disappear like frikken ghosts. They could do it in ocarina of time too. "Telekinesis" But the moon is an entity, face and everything, so I was under the impression all the mask did was turn it malevolent, like how it turned the dungeons by awakening other things as malevolent. "Matter and life out of nothing" grey area. Rest of the stuff I can agree with easily enough.
Then it's called Majoras mask but that doesn't mean Majora is in it. They use the sages seals to stop Ganon but they don't rename them to the Ganon seals. They also establish in Skyward sword that the link style heroes and Ganon style champions will rise in every era to face each other. After Majora/kid robs link, takes a special pleasure in mockingly playing his ocarina and after clearly escaping waits to curse link further before leaving. Also since all the different Ganons seek the power of the goddesses, the triforce power and in OOT he gets one third, since Majora seemingly has all three powers, could be one of the versions had the full triforce when they were sealed away. Would explain the power leaking out through the seal simply by way of the mask being handled.
But isn't the idea that Ganondorf has been consistently the same guy. It's not reincarnation just a series of sealing and unsealing?
@@ToonGrin In some of the games yes, In others no. I remember incinuation that wind waker Ganon was OoT Ganon escaped from the sages power.
OoT in game lore says one male Gerudo is born per generation and is made King of all Gerudo, so King Ganon was born.
I wasn't strictly saying it was Ganon in the mask, but more positing ideas, since a lot of the video said things like, FACT FACT FACT, when I was seeing greys and maybes.
Given the first lines at the beginning of majoras mask, Link is "looking for an old friend," suggesting he went to find Navi who flies away at the end of OoT, establishing this is the same link and same timeline, so if the powers were Ganons, it would be one from a different time.
So maybe, maybe not.
Razanak:what is really behind that mask
Me:hopefully not another mask
I'll leave now
Tom's book of random Majora's Majora's Mask
Not sure if this was a Naruto reference or not
*slow clap* 👏🏾
I acknowledge and respect that
Behind the mask is the unstoppable soup ladle. Dum dum dummmmmm..............
Godamn it, Jhin.
Just to add to possible evidence that Majora is Ghirahim; Majora gives Link the Fierce Deity Mask, turning him into what looks to just be an older, albeit slightly colour-altered, version of Link. It also allows Link to fire sword beams en masse. The Link that fights Demise and Ghirahim is an older Link, who is capable of firing sword beams. The Fierce Deity wasn't a real entity, it's what Majora thinks the original Link was. A monstrous villain, clearly godlike in his power, who couldn't be stopped and wouldn't rest until his opponent was destroyed.
I dunno , that's not what Ghirahim thinks of Link , he just thinks Link's a jerk who keeps getting in his way...
That's an interesting idea. It may seem unlikely at first glance, considering Ghirahim seeing anyone other than Demise as godlike doesn't make much sense... but his arrogance explains it. He sees Demise as an ultimate being that would claim the world, so it makes sense that he would eventually demonize Link into this mighty being that's equally godlike; after all, from his perspective, Link would have to be that powerful to have won.
... There might be a video here.
awesomely said, couldn't agree with you more 😄
Fierce Deity seems to be a mix of Link and the shiekah. The two "villains" stopping him.
- Links hair, face and gender. Sheikah hair colour, and face painting
But don't you need someone to be dead and the mask to have the dead persons should to transform into him?
he has returned in breath of the wild and he literally just makes it so monsters cant see you
First of all, cud oust to you for your research, And excellent work my friend. This storyline is WONDERFUL. And whether you’re right on the money or wrong from all angles. The ending still has a beautiful conclusion. I love what you’ve done. Thank you. And Great Job.
The thing about majoras mask not bearing much resemblance to other twili technology other than the eye
The eye, and the fact that it's a mask, would indicate that the fused shadow is a later creation, using majoras mask as a prototype. Throughout twilight princess, you learn through both the light spirit and midna, that while the twili were dangerous at first, they became peaceful over time in the twilight realm. It's possible that the twili's ancestors created the mask a great deal of time ago. They feared it's power and sealed it away, and over the course of tens or hundreds or even thousands of years, their technology grew and adapted, while the mask had been lost, stolen away by adventurers, or the mask salesman. Eventually they tried to create a new weapon to fuel their ambitions, the fused shadow, utilizing both new technology, and ancient techniques that had produced majoras mask. As a result, the fused shadow was a bit of the best of both worlds. While powerful, it wasn't nearly as destructive or chaotic. Either the proper techniques and resources were lost to time and they _couldn't_ produce an equally powerful tool, or they had learned from their mistake and intentionally made a weapon on a scale they could control. Or possibly both: perhaps the technique to create the mask was abandoned and made taboo because of it's destructive nature
Smart. This comment needs more likes.
I was thinking the same thing. Since he brought up the fact that the mask was colorful and didn’t fit with what we saw in Twilight Princess, it could also be argued that the mask was made before they were banished. Therefore they still lived in the world of light so their creations would have had color and, once they were banished, over time their clothes, art, etc. became more subdued in color. What we saw in that game is the results of a culture that evolved to the realm that they were banished to. It also makes sense that the mask was made by them as they are the only race that’s actually banished. The Shika are the guardians of the royal family so clearly they’re not banished. The Twili also seem to be the only race powerful enough that the goddesses feared.
Just a thought on the first thing you said, the ancestors of the twill some of the first generations to be stuck in the twilight realm could have created it for the purpose of Revenge. They later became peaceful people but at first they could be sour and would want to have the people that got them stuck to pay for what they have done to them, creating the mask and some how sending it back to the light world to cause havoc.. hence the eye and the ancient look like you said... also the feeling of loneliness that it has would resemble some one being left behind or traps in a timeless place like the twilight realm probably felt like(at first at least)
Hey, if you watch NintendoBlackCrisis' video about this as well, you can all be right.
The Shika learned there magic from the Twili. They mention it in the game. Well Impa does.
How did he dance for three days if there is no time?
As he danced, time was being created because of the power it had. But it doesn't matter, it's not canon.
Dayboss 557 presumably, the act of simply “having something to do” started the concept of time within that little pocket dimension.
I know, it makes little sense, considering he had confronted previous adventurers, but it’s essentially a symbolic myth.
Well, technically, how could they even talk if there was no time? Everything should have been frozen.
I think it's a little figurative, but my thought is that when the Hero started playing the drum, that created a rhythm, and with it, time. Music and rhythm can't exist without time, so time (or the concept/awareness of time) was created along with the music.
He danced 3 times to infinity
Yeah
I know it's been a couple of years but I just discovered this video I loved how you put emotion into the video especially when it seems like you realize that Majora might just be Garahim (not sure if I spelled that right) instant subscription from me keep up the good work!
This video is well reasoned and well executed. Your end result is very compelling.
Whats behond the mask?
*ITS DIO*
I Reject my humanity, Jojo!
Why did we need a JoJo reference?
Jojo references are always a good thing.
But the real question is,
DO THEY HAVE STAND ARROWS IN AREA 51!?!?
@@braindead8269 No, now there are the corpse pieces of Jesus Christ collected from the Devil's Palm
I have foundeth a fellow weeb
"We've only seen one [Sheika] (idk if i spelt it correctly) so far."
Just wait until BotW.
Botw got all the damn Shiekah🤣 although somebody stated they're not full blooded Shiekah so idk🤷♀️
Impa,Purah,and Robbie are all Sheikah. also, the inhabitants of Kakariko are Sheikah like Lasli,Cado,Dorian,Paya, and crazy plum tree lady
@@petargrific484 so are all of the monks
I always thought the spirit of Majora who possessed the mask was just some kind of interdimensional or extraterrestrial entity or demon. I never considered that it could have had a traumatic backstory. Very interesting!
This was amazing, then end gave me chills, MM is my favorite LoZ game and I've been hoping for a continuation ever since it came out.
I've been waiting for a continuation too. Sadly, we probably will never see it happen
Nice theory but I have one complaint.
If Ghirahim is indeed sealed in the Mask, then why could he became stronger than is former master?
You said it yourself:
Ganondorf + Majora's Mask = nearly unstoppable
but
Demise + Ghirahim (Sword Form) was beaten by Link?
There are also two other tribes who vanished long ago in Termina, the Garo and the Ikana and we don't know to much about them beside the great war.
In my theorie Termina was cursed by the three goddesses during the great war, as the Ikana tried to reach the sacred realm through the stone tower to obtain the triforce. After "flipping" their world upside down and transforming Termina into a parallel world, the Ikana reached the deepest of "Hell" instead of the sacred realm where they find the mask.
They used its power to win the war, but the mask became stronger for every soul it took and destroyed both tribes.
The goddesses have to made sure, that Majora couldn't break the seal and came Hyrule, so they made the four giants, one of each species, a Zora, a Goron, a Deku and a Human. These 4 were friends with skullkid but had to leave cause of their duty.
Well and the rest is nearly history, I guess... :D
Nice theory! I like it! :D
I also have some theories posted in this comment section, two of them to be exact, one of Majora and the other of the plot of BotW. Would you like to read them and tell me what you think? :)
Honestly this is a hunch but... Ganondorf and other beings have shown before that they can grow in power after long periods of time. These time periods are spent years upon years later generations even. These beings become too powerful for their containment and that is how they are able to escape or communicate with the outside world. Look at Ganondorf in Twilight Princess as he was able to grow strong enough from his containment to were he is able to appear as an astral being only an aura in the shape of his head is able to make it through when at other times like not long after he is first contained he is nowhere to be seen. What if Ghirahim who is literally Demises right hand man could have possibly had the same traits.
Didn't he say that the mask would grow stronger with time
Breath of the wild didn’t exist at this time, but the Yiga clan is a strong candidate. ( Shiekah that broke away and helped ganon)
Considering the yiga only exist because the Hylians distrusted the sheikah tech and forced them to abandon it, and that tech was only created during or a little before the first calamity, no, they are not a candidate.
Yiga didn't exist yet
I think what he was trying to say is even Shiekah can be evil. Not technically saying that the Yiga made it.
@@citizenvulpes4562 This never made much sense. How do a bunch of guys with swords force people with War Robots and laser guns to abandon their laser guns?
This would be like an army of African cow herders forces the US Military to bury all of their technology.
@@darthsonic4135 the sheikah are loyal to the hylians, they just kind of followed what the kingdom wanted them to do.
When ever Razanak said "could majora be..." youtube crashed
Probably one of the greatest discussion videos I've ever watched, thank you.
I would love to see the next zelda game about ganondorf trying to gain majoras mask
Sherbert Sheep that would be bad ass and imagine if he has the triforce also. He will be too strong and possibly can't die.
Maybe it was to help put his soul to rest..? Hmm
The legend of Zelda Majoras past
He would look gorgeous wearing it
Hell yes this would be the sickest game ever.
15:08 you remembered to include the most important impa in the Zelda timeline
YES, YES, YES, YES,
YES!
(Cdi games are most important part in Zelda history)
Nicely F*ing done! The research and creativity in this, man! I loved that game and I don't know about all the back story and lore but I enjoyed this and found all your theories, plausible and satisfying, as you mentioned. Good work man
Agree with it or not... This was a great freaking video. And the thought that went into it was great. I never thought of this, and it's things like this why I love Zelda so much, they leave so much to the imagination.
What if.....get this......the mask created itself
The mask is judeo Christian god!
Uh wat?
Dumbsparce Well it belongs to Majora so it couldn't have been created itself
Alejandro Rodriguez that’s the joke
r/whooosh
5:18 he’s probably trying to send a hidden message that he is lonely. I think
Really happy a channel other than game theory is making a theory on a Zelda game. You earned a subscriber!
one shudders to imagine what inhuman thoughts lie behind that mask
what dreams of chronic and sustained cruelty
I fear no man.
But that thing...
It *scares* me.
Bish Imma fuckin revive Ghirahim and give a hug cause he fucking needs one
Rerorerorerorerorerorerorero
I just think of revenge on the person who took my chocolate and locked me in the mask
*plays Do You Believe In Magic*
Majora's Mask is literally a mask, no specific entity lives within it it besides itself. But it came to life anyway, likely in a way similar to Teddie from Persona 4, but instead of already being alive before meeting humans, it came to life through the interactions it had with humans, the hexing rituals. It probably even enjoyed being used by people to hex other people, but perhaps this tribe freaked out when the mask started acting on its own. This caused some bitterness within the mask, to be rejected by the people that had once before been it's friends. Or at least, if the mask didn't know what friendship was then, it had learned what rejection was.
Another part of this is the nature of what a mask is. What makes a person who they are? It's obviously more than superficial appearance, but our appearance is still a way we communicate to others about what we are, and what our intentions are. Our face shifts to reflect our mood, and we adorn the rest of our body and our surroundings with items as an extension of our face. But our mood is not always the same, and neither is our face. We choose different decorations, feel different emotions. Are we then a different person after such a change? I would say no, but the idea of a mask arises from such a conundrum. A mask can be used to conceal who we are, but it can also be used to reveal our thoughts and intentions in ways we otherwise could not. Whether our goal is to simply use the mask as a temporary tool, or as a means of escapism, a mask that becomes a lived-in identity.
Majora's Mask was crafted to hex people, and was made with an ominous appearance suitable for such a task. But it stopped being a mere tool when it came to life, and now it is an identity that lives-in itself. It came to life purely through the intentions it was used for, and the feelings of malice that its user bore within themselves. Nevertheless it was still a child, and it expressed itself in ways that an unchanging, static face could not. It was then sealed away by "the bad guys", the people it had thought were its playmates.
I agree here. I think it is what it is. The mask doesn't need some grand overarching identity theory. This isn't a game of thrones theory.
Wow...that’s fantastic. Probably what Nintendo would most likely agree with
Totes agree here cause Ghi being the mask makes like no sense. It's good research but, it really doesn't make any sense to take a metal sword and turn it into a wooden mask.
1. It's never explicitly stated that the hexing rituals the mask was used in were targeting people, could have easily been anything else, keeping certain spirits at bay, etc.
2. How is a mask spontaneously attaining sentience, somehow thinking the people using it in rituals are its friends, and feeling a human sense of abandonment, more plausible than a powerful individual being sealed within an object like a mask, a process which is already well-established canon?
Right on. Yeah I figured the mask housed a young lonely spirit of a child who's ego didn't develop passed he id. That's why it latched onto skull kid so well. It's like It wasn't exactly evil but a being too powerful for it's own good playing 'games' with people. it's in pain. something like that yo.
thanks for telling me about this three years later, youtube.
I like this theory. However, that's only because I like Ghirahim.
Dude, he looks like a fucking psycho
Ah- ...fair enough. That's my reason too.
Anyone notice how the ''Moon child'' wearing majora's mask has the same haircut and color as the happy mask salesman
So glad you see that too, I've been noticing that since day one!
All of the moon children do so that's not exactly a mindblowing thing
@@tanandalynch9441 that just makes it worse, I'm telling you man he is one of them!
12:37 - "Most disturbing location in Hyrule?" I... I'd put the Forest Temple, Lost Woods, and Kokiri forest above the Shadow Temple. Darkness and Death are fine, there are no mysteries there, but that damn forest... there's something *wrong* with it... What the hell was the Forest Temple originally? Why is there a room with what looks like a pool of blood with a torch sconce in the center? Why are there twisting hallways? Fiendish hands dropping from the ceiling? A creepy basement? (Also... whatever happened to that phantom ganon? Did it ever reappear?) Why do people who enter the lost woods turn into stalfos? What about the skull kids? And why the hell is that one kid so nonchalant about people turning into undead skeletons (the Kokiri who gives you the saw in exchange for the potion in the quest to get the biggoran sword). If the forest is so "sacred" and in need of protection, why do terrible things happen to innocent people who venture into it unless they're Link? And why, especially if this theory is anything to go on, is there a giant nearly bottomless pit tree that one can fall into to reach Termina?!?
The shadow temple had dead hand.... no more said
Phantom ganon was resummoned in windwaker and I guess you could say breath of the wild as well. I'd love to know who made some of these temples. Places were fucked up lol
In Ocarina of Time, Ganondorf tells you that he has no use for such a weak ghost and banishes the phantom to a place between dimensions.
We really need Majora sequels! Great video! I love that theory quite a lot!
God your content is so good, from editing to your explanations, I wish you uploaded more
bro that sudden jump at the beginning just made me spit my food out thanks
Ever notice how fierce deity looks like Girahim? What if his weird childish dark side was transferred to majoras mask, and his fabulous side was transferred to the fierce deity mask?
F I E R C E
fucking what
I think that the f deity mask is the image of what girihim thinks a villain to be. A tall, muscular man with a big sword. That shoots electric slashes. Like the super lightning skyward strikes that destroyed his master.
Hence why f deity looks like a scary version of link
but they look pretty different, and Fierce Deity's Mask also contains Dark Power possibly similar to Majora's but executed differently.
The Twili came from the Sheikah they were changed by the twilight realm. The Sheikah are the only tribe we know about that deal with magical masks (mask of truth).
This theory actually really makes sense because we never see Ghirahim in any game other than Skyward Sword, his fate is more or less a mystery. He's basically Demise's Master Sword but we never see Ganondorf or any of Demise's other reincarnations even mention the name Ghirahim or have a sword anywhere similar to that of the Master Sword.
The only other things I'd've mentioned would have been the 3 golden triangles on the "eyebrows" of the mask & The correspondence to the 3 goddess's colors on the spikes at the bottom. Red Green Blue
I think it's safe to say you have a solid theory but I can't help thinking it's missing something.
In regards to the Mask of Truth, [13:33] "A bit odd for any kind of righteous group to curse the wearer to turn into a mutated spider monster..."
The MASK did not curse the man. When he went to look [in the cave], he was cursed by the Golden Skulltulas (via Spider's Curse), likely due to his GREED. He still wore the mask because he couldn't remove it due to having spider legs.
Otherwise, I love this video and the theories you are presenting.
This was so well put together.. Nintendo should hire you. Thank you for this interesting content! Definitely subbed!
Never stop doing what you do! Keep em coming!
ive only played snipits of the zelda games and im working my way through a link in the past right now. while i dont know much about the game, this video was fucking awesome for a theory and it makes sense to me for it to fit. its really nice to consider. nice work man. subscribed!