Towing with our 2016 Ford Explorer sport
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Towing review of our 2016 Ford Explorer sport. We are pulling our 2021 Coachman Apex Outfitter. The explorer has a 5000lb towing capacity and we are towing our travel trailer that weighs approx. 4600lbs. Watch this video to see how the explorer does on our 170 mile trip! - Auta a dopravní prostředky
This was exactly what I was looking for - thank you!
I have a 2016 ford explorer sport. I towed a 2019 little guy max. The trailer weight is 3010. I did use an equalizer weight distribution hitch with sway control. It made all the difference in the world. I towed the trailer from VA to Central Florida and it felt pretty easy. I used premium gas because I got better mileage, and I used the ECHO Smart bluetooth brake controler. I wouldn't tow in the mountains but it does well on the flats. I found that sway wasn't bad when I wasn't in tow mode even at higher mileage.
I have a '16 Sport and I've towed my snowmobiles in a enclosed trailer adding up to about ~2000lbs. While I understand it's well below the towing capacity, it's unreal how it pulls like there's nothing back there. One of the most pleasant towing experiences I've ever had, extremely laid back and comfortable. Only issue I have is that I haven't bought mirror extensions yet, until then it's a pain to know who's behind me.
May want to check the GVCW.
Thanks for you video. Had similar experience with same setup. 2017 Exp Sport with Coachmen 21CBH w/WD hitch. Seemed to balance out better and let the sway control work better than a single axle Keystone that we rented a year ago.
Yeah our weigh distribution hitch works great!
"Wouldn't want to push it much past 70" then we won't talk about how fast I drove going to Lake Powell with two jetski's behind it haha
Ahh you made a video.... lol. Just posted on the first video asking how is it with the suv
Just found your channel! I am shopping for a travel trailer (well, trying to figure out what I can tow) ... I have a 2020 Ford Explorer Platinum ... I believe the towing cap. is 5600 pounds and the payload cap. is 1217 pounds. I watched your video on your trailer ... really dig it but don't need the bunks ... going to check out this Apex line though and see what floor plans are available ... I want to keep my trailer at 4K pounds max ... Cheers!
So what is everyone’s take on a non factory class III tow hitch on an ‘15 XLT pulling a 19ft camper that weights 3100lbs dry using a wt dist hitch with anti-sway and trailer brake. Plan on pulling dry on mostly flat areas places.
Hey man quick question I just purchased a 2017 sport with 70k on the dash.
I noticed occasionally the car likes to shift pretty firm. Most of the time I can feel the shift and its smooth but other times the shift cruising up to speed is slightly more aggressive.
Have you noticed anything similar with yours>
I was looking for the video in the mountain, but it seems not there.
How was your driving experience in the mountain near lake gorge north New York
2021 Apex Nano 208BHS is GVWR is 6000LHS according to their spec sheet.Specifications
Hitch Weight:
516 lb.
GVWR:
6,000 lb.
UVW
3,948 lb.
CCC
2,052 lb.
Exterior Length:
25' 0"
Exterior Height:
10' 0"
Exterior Width:
90"
Fresh Water:
50.00 gal.
Gray Water:
35.00 gal.
Black Water:
35.00 gal.
Awning Size:
14'
Do you have a weight distribution /anti-sway bar on your trailer hook up?
I have a 2015 XLT with tow package and with 3.5L engine without the Ecoboost. We pulled a 4000 pound RV trailer with weight distribution hitch with sway bars. Pulling was ok no sway, but seemed to labor keeping 65 MPH on highway. Would not shift out of 4th gear aely with or without tow button turned on. I thought that staying pretty much under 5000 lbs would be OK, But now am thinking the Ecoboost engine is needed. Would that be your thinking? Got about 9 MPG for a 100 mile tow.
Yeah I would definitely go with the eco boost...so much more horsepower, ours pulls our camper very easily. The only thing I am doing yet is adding airbags to the rear suspension. They just arrived so I am putting them on hopefully next week. We just took a 200 mile trip to upstate new York going through the mountains and on this trip we actually just averaged 12.2mph so not too bad!
I have a 2016 explorer limited edition really appreciate these videos trying to figure out different trailer options with my explorer
Would not tow anywhere close to 5000 lbs with a limited... sport has twin turbos and tons more torque than your limited.
It's not about the engine. You shouldnt tow anywhere close to 5000lbs in either vehicle. It's your drive train, suspension, and brakes that will suffer the most abuse. In most cases, especially this guy...you will exceed your payload or hitch weight before getting close to 5000lbs. Do the safe thing like 95% of all experts say, do not surpass 80% of your vehicle's tow capability. And, be sure to consider your passengers and equipment as part of your payload.
@@jaybird9988 this guy in the video does not want to hear any advise that goes against his beliefs.
Hense the reason why he does not reply.
No one know more then him about towing.
@@darrinsteven7002 He does reply, but it usually involves him talking about "actual numbers" and "actual facts" saying he was going to make a video showing all of that. To my knowledge...no such video has come out, and he had likely upgraded his SUV, it has broken, or the facts did not support his argument. This is a tragic problem of someone being so convinced they are right, that they dont know how to admit they are wrong. These people are harmless until they get a CZcams channel, then they convince other people who are wrong that they might be right. This is where the real damage is done.
@@jaybird9988 CZcams should come with a warning.
I wonder if he would be liable if his advise and reasurance caused a crash or worse out on the roads.
Thanks for uploading this as I'm trying to see if the ford explorer sport is good to tow the 2021 R pod 202 it's about 4200 pbs empty so I think I am well within the limits .. I'm. I'm Atlanta so I'm gonna be taking the family up through mountains of Ga NC and TN so Its good to know this can seat all 5 of us comfortably while towing the travel trailer .. PLEASE keep uploading I subscribe
Don’t follow this guy’s example. He’s overloaded and towing unsafe. You’re more than likely going to be way over the max payload of your explorer towing 4200lbs with five people in the cabin + food, gear, clothing, fuel, etc. Even if you’re able to somehow keep the load within spec, you really don’t want to be consistently pushing the upper towing limits of your vehicle. You really need something like a half ton pickup this kind of load.
Ya dude, this guy is a moron. Do not tow a trailer that size with an explorer. Especially with 5 passengers. He is well over his hitch weight, and maxed on payload and towing capacity even with a wt distribution hitch and travelling light. Dont put your family's life, and the lives of all the drivers on the road at risk. Most experts say not to exceed 80% of your vehicle's tow capability in order to operate safely. If you plan to haul all your gear and passengers in your tow vehicle...then you really shoudnt do more than 70%.
Dont do it! Get a truck! i did the exact same thing this guy is doing only with a 2015 xlt. trailer was the about the same weight and everything. The max payload and Gross rear axel weight are too low to do this. Also using air bags is just like using band aids after open heart surgery. If you have and accident and the insurance company finds out you are overloaded THEY WILL DROP YOU!!! Dont listen to this guy!!
@@jaybird9988 This SO much!!!
@@jburkett83 Yes I agree. There is way better towing info available on CZcams. Here's a hint, if you think a video you watched had good info, search that persons CZcams channel. If they're showcasing new travel trailers on their channel, my advice would be to look for another channel when it comes to towing advice. ✌
Thanks for your video , can I please have the exactly name of your break control since I have a explorer as well thank you very much
Tekonsha Prodigy P2 brake controller
I’m amazed by your MPG. And confused. We have this same vehicle and year, in platinum trim. Our trailer is 3500 lbs and we average 10mgp on a VERY good day w no wind and hills. The big bummer with the explorers is the small gas tank size which results in limitations of distance needing to fill up. Curious what you and others are seeing. I’m considering charged cold air intake as an upgrade. What are others doing-seeing? We are midwestern based but contemplating a Rocky Mountain push this summer. I’m hesitant. Thanks all! Good stuff here.
I installed the K&N cold air intake kit about 4 years ago on my EX. Didn’t make any difference in fuel economy and is pretty loud. Maybe a little more pep in the peddle but not significant. Just my experience.
Thanks for the video. I have a 2028 Explorer XLT with the 3.5L V6 AWD. It also has the Class III factory installed tow package and they rate this vehicle's tow capacity as 5000 lbs. My travel trailer's dry weight is 2900 lbs and I did not load a lot of stuffs in it, may be 500 lbs. Just three of us in the car weighing about 420 lbs. I noticed that when driving on a flat highway the transmission would not shift to higher gears and the RPM was clocking at ~4000. Did you notice anything like that? Could this be because I used the tow mode to stay on? Do you normally leave the tow mode to stay on? Really looking for some help here. Thanks in advance!
I think it keeps RPMs up to prevent overheating, running the pumps for extra oil cooler etc. That's what I believe I read in the manual but it's been awhile
Hey brother - I have a 2016 Ford Explorer Platinum like you mentioned. We’re pulling a 4000 lb. Rig (2022 r-pod 193) Occasionally I get a burning rubber smell from beneath the hood area. No signs of overheating on the gages and it dissipates quickly after stopping. Did you have that with your Sport. Other than that, it pulls and stops like a dream.
I had that once on a very hot day crossing the plaines. Same exact model and year as your explorer. I pulled into a gas station and sat for an hour to check it all out and could never locate it again. Curious…what’s your MPG when towing your rig?
How did the drive through the mountains go? I just ordered a apex nano 208bhs and am driving an Acura MDX with 5000 lb max capacity and am a bit nervous about my ability to pull this vehicle
With our explorer being and eco boost going uphill was surprisingly easy it stayed under 2000rpms at about 60 with no down shifts. The boost from the turbos helped give the extra power to prevent excessive down shifting. Id say check with your Acura dealer on recommendations and see your RV dealer and ask if you could hook up a travel trailer and test your towing before buying just to see if you feel comfortable towing. Especially if you don't have much prior towing experience. Good Luck and Happy Camping
I had the 2011 full loaded awd . Now I have the 2017 fwd is there and difference in towing because of that even if I have tow mode and sway class three
The 2017 pending motor option can tow 5000lbs, the new 2019+can tow 5600lbs
@@FerreedomOutdoors I have 3.5 liter natural aspirated engine 290 horse
@@wipphalo1573 i would call your local Ford dealer and ask them...the AWD explorers are basically fwd until the real axles kick in for traction issues. My good friend is a master Ford technician and tows alot so he was a great source to confirm my towing capabilities. Us towing or rig with the equilizer E2 system is so stable and tows effortlessly.
The issue here is adding all the weight. Trailer+tongue wt+ hitch wt+cargo+people etc. You will be over 5000 lbs. Also your Explorer wheelbase is not really recommended for that long of a trailer. Be careful.
That happened to me...oh well i wanted a truck anyway
This is a super old comment, but wanted to note people, cargo, etc in the car do not count towards the 5000lb tow limit; instead, those go towards the GVW of the vehicle itself, listed on the door. The 5000lb limit is the weight of the trailer and anything inside it.
In my f150 with a 23ft trailer I never go past 65. Towing a 30ft trailer in an explorer doing 70... damn.
don't recommend 70 we just had to at one point. I was merely using that as a reference on the experience at that speed
@Eric Povish I'm curious if you don't go over 65 because of how your trailer handles above that speed? 🙂
Towing capacity is one thing, how about your vehicles gvwr? The explorer weighs around 4,900lbs, and weighs 6,160lbs. With a hitch weight of 5-600lbs you only have about 600lbs of cargo capacity for the explorer, take away your weight, passengers, luggage, gas, you're pretty close to overloaded if not already. Have you taken it to a cat scale? Also your steering and sway can be ratified with a properly setup weight distribution hitch
We are doing a cat scale in two weeks on our next trip. We do have access to a large scale and have weighed all of our gears and belonging in our camper. We added between 224lbs and 265 depending on what we are packing. We go pretty light on our trips and shop once we get there. We also do run an equalizer E2 for weigh distribution and sway. Our sway is very very good except once you get to 70+. I also think the installation of our air assist for the rear will also work wonders. Fortunately a very good friend on mine is also a ford master mechanic and helps with some very good insights on towing! Although close in weight I believe we have taken all of the proper steps to assure we are safe and keeping our vehicle running at optimum performance. Thanks again for your comments i do appreciate them sharing everyone's knowledge helps eveyone!!! Thanks again!!!
@@FerreedomOutdoors that's all great to know, we have a 2017 Durango RT which has a 7200lb tow capacity. We are looking at very similar travel trailers, but being our first I'm trying to make sure we're doing it all correctly and safely. It's good to know you are within limits and towing it easily, gives me some more confidence as our vehicle is a little higher rated.
Unsafe unsafe unsafe and yet I still want to drive 70+ miles per hour
Boosted Big Inch yes this guy is not towing safely at all. That explorer is beyond its safe zone.
@@BennyBig84 I almost found that out the hard way. I did the exact same thing hes doing with a 2015 XLT and a trailer thats almost the same weight as his. The engine and trasmission can pull the weight just fine its the rest of the car thats the problem.
What is you average rpm? Do you turn of tow mode when vehilce is up to speed? Towing an rpod 176 this friday. Just want to hear your thoughts
Tow mode should always be on. When I towed with this vehicle we would be less than 2k rpm at 60mph
Huh, I didn't think speed as high as 70 mph should be driven with that size trailer. Thank you for sharing.
Correct not condoning 70mph and I tow between 60-65 we were in a situation that we had to pass but we now know our limitation!
What fuel did you use? I'm thinking 91 octane for towing but I usually run 87.
Turbos prefer 91 but 87 is fine.
93 octane
Do you need the brake controller or does the tow button do what the brake controller does?
He has an aftermarket brake controller, that's the Prodigy he mentions.
You need a brake controller
What is the dry weight on the trailer?
around 4100lbs
Please do not take this guys advice on towing! The only thing he ever mentions is dry trailer weight and vehicle tow capacity. He never mentions GCWR, front and rear axle max weight or vehicle payload. There is no way he is not over payload and gross combined weight rating.
Folks should understand, you can't just say I am rated to to 5000 lbs. and the trailer is only 4300 pounds. Please do not think this is okay! Watch videos and learn or find someone who knows and can teach you how to know if you are towing safely.
Lastly, I seriously hope he has upgraded to a proper vehicle for this camper or sold the camper.
I'm not sure what everyone on here watched, but he clearly said 4600 lbs as it sits and noted close to vehicle tow rating multiple times. While closer than some are comfy with, this certainly isn't unsafe, particularly given he is clearly aware he's close to the rating (brake controller adjusted properly, etc.).
Did you have any sight problems without mirror extensions?
no none at all
Some states require them.
@@jamesrichardson8484 James do you know which ones that info would be great for all of us!
@@FerreedomOutdoors As far as i can tell all states have some type of mirrior requirement. Some its only if your trailer is wider than your tow vehicle. All of them say your view from your mirriors cant be obstructed by your trailer.
Did i just seen you in Gettysburg today?
you probably did!!
Be careful using an Explorer to tow a travel trailer. You will run up on your max rear axel weight before you max out its towing capacity. if you buy one of these 3500lbs dry weight travel trailers your explorer will tow it fine empty on the way home. After loading it up for that first trip and seeing sag its way down the road youll be getting a truck. not saying its a bad vehicle( i still love mine) but its not made for towing a loaded twin axel travel trailer. Stick to a pop up or a light weight single axel.
James stay tuned to our new video coming out soon on towing capacity and we use our vehicle with facts and figures, real numbers and great insights on towing with a SUV.. I just towed the travel trailer yesterday 250miles super easy never any issues
I e been towing my 4200lb travel trailer for many year now with no issues!
@@fembot521 I'm happy it's working for you. Believe me I didn't want to pony up for a truck. I think if my wife didn't pack so heavy and we didn't have 2 kids and 2 dogs we might be OK. It is what it is though.
Been towing a 3500lb travel trailer from Alabama to California to Idaho to Oregon, it’s been great.
doesn't the Explorer Sport have brake control already with the class 3 package?
No it doesn't.
@@btsadventures4310 you're right I had to get one...I was surprised it was cheap to buy one and install
the explorer has factory sway control not brake controller
You have to buy one along with an adapter. There is a factory plug underneathe the dash down by the e-brake
You Apex 208 is 25ft overall not 29ft
After you fill the camper with crap you’re probably over capacity
frigging tow police all over the place. funny thing is that everyone says "unsafe" when the entire set up is well within all limits given the data shared in video and comments
You're overloaded lol
He's not. He's at about 90%, which while not as conervative as the "80% crowd", he is not over the limit. He also just reveiwed exactly how it was to tow, so....
@@davidp6839 4600lbs dry so add his 200lbs 4800lbs anything else puts you pretty much over making you overloaded you don't camp empty handed
@@warnerkyle29 Not dry. He said 4600 lbs "as it sits", that's loaded and ready to go.
Keeps saying safety is paramount.
Very unsafe and illegal set up.
Insurance and warranties would be null and void
Well over towing capacity and also cargo capacity.