An Open letter - This is Dangerous (ft. Dr. Shantanu Abhyankar) | Pseudoscience Police
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- An open letter recently made a video on homeopathy. Props to this man for how carefully he chose his words to conclude in its favour despite overwhelming evidence against it. This is a criticism against that.
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
01:36 - What is bad about homeopathy
05:15 - An open letter’s video
10:23 - Criticisms of Homeopathy
14:58 - The studies he cites
17:25 - Call with Dr. Shantanu Abhyankar
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Hi Science is Dope,
Thanks for making your reaction to our video. Really appreciate all your criticisms on our work. Here are a few comments from our end, which we think would be helpful for the viewers who may not have watched the original video -
1. You called our conclusion in the video in support of the homeopathy, but that is not how we see it. Here is our actual conclusion from the video for your reference -
‘Homeopathy has its own benefits along with very serious criticism. Homeopaths need to work on the criticism just the way allopathy worked on it and went from blood letting to its modern form. The term allopathy itself was originated as contempt and stuck on, but they did not care and focused on improving the practice. That is what homeopaths also must do. We also quoted Dr Shantanu where he had mentioned that alternative medicines need scrutiny and criticism so that we can adopt their best practices for betterment of humanity. In your video, where you showed your conversation with Dr. Shantanu, he also agrees that homeopathy needs to be scrutinised. So, both of the statements seem in sync.
Our last line of the video is verbatim here for your reference - The need of the hour is scrutiny and questioning, not the blind belief.
However, its sad to see that without ever showing our conclusion in full, you chose to call it dangerous and ‘in support of homeopathy’
2. You have drawn conclusions from the structure of the video and claimed that the information regarding existence of AYUSH ministry, size of homeopathy market are there to show that its very good. This is not the case. Here is how we have structured the video -
a) Giving introduction about the homeopathy in its current adoption to showcase that while many of us moved on from this and probably never come across this, its still very popular. The intent of this section was to showcase that its not some obscure topic that we are talking about
b) Right after this, we give a historical account of allopathy and how its shortcomings gave birth to homeopathy. We mentioned that things like germ theory and bloodpressure machines were not available back then. You have interpreted this as a criticism against allopathy since we did not include the same for homeopathy. Here our intention was to showcase the times we are talking about and reason behind allopathy being so painful back then. If anything, our point was to showcase that it was a very different times that gave birth to resentment against allopathy back then and now we have come a long way in modern medicines. We give a call back to this exact point to underscore our point to the very end of the video. So, we believe your interpretation of our statement here is selective and flawed. In this section, we also gave a very detailed account of how homeopathy started, its basic concepts. We even called these concepts very ‘shocking’ and ‘controversial’ in our video.
c) Then we showcase that large adoption of homeopathy (established under point a) primarily comes from the reasons of royals and riches backing it, being popular among people with low scientific temperament and disillusionment with modern medicines among people who believe in ‘big pharma conspiracy’. We are still wondering how all of these points can be interpreted as being supportive of homeopathy.
d) The very next section of our video goes in details of most of the popular criticism against the very basic principles of homeopathy. This entire section is spent steelmaning the strongest arguments against homeopathy. We have made to sure talk about all the criticism in a manner that everyone understands it correctly. You also seem to agree to these criticisms. You claim that we just move on from criticism to the next section. However, you selectively did not show in your video that towards the end of our video, we give call back to these criticism and pose a question to homeopaths, who now have to research and pose a counter to these criticisms. We also appreciate modern medicines in terms of the way they take criticism and improved upon their shortcomings. We are still wondering why you chose to not include all of this context in your video and chose to give conclusion that this was all done to support homeopathy
e) After talking about criticism of homeopathy, we talk about why homeopathy works. Under this section we have presented the case of critiques of homeopathy by talking about how homeopathy medicines may not be the exact reason of their effects, in reality, the actual benefits may be due to ‘lifestyle changes’ and ‘placebo’ effects. This entire section also has a pov of critiques and does not sing praises for homeopathy medicines, as you seem to interpret and present in your reaction. This is also strange for us that you chose to ignore the fact that this section is also a critique’s pov.
f) Between points a to e., we have covered nearly 85% of the video duration. At the end, in our conclusion we talk about our conclusion of the entire video. Here we talk about homeopathy working in some specific cases - upper respiratory tract infection, artherities etc. We also mentioned that in some of these cases a mixture of homeopathy and modern medicine is given. We also mentioned that thorough consultations and homeopathy having low side effects in kids are some of the good things about homeopathy, however, in the same breath we mention that homeopathy does have very serious criticisms for which homeopaths need to do a lot more research. Please refer to point 1 for verbatim conclusion of our video, which you have decided to not include in your video for some reason.
I hope that this gives you our perspective on how we see our video and your response on the same.
Just like homeopathy, our video also needs a lot more criticisms and we fully welcome them. We really liked some of your criticism/suggestions -
Adding sources to description is a good idea, however, so many links in description section makes it very cluttered. We will try to find a better way to do that.
Towards the end of our video, when we mention two studies for about 10 seconds, about homeopathy working, we should have added the context that these studies are done by homeopaths.
Thanks a lot for reading our such a lengthy response. If possible, please pin this under your video for the reference of your audience.
For anyone who is interested in watching the original video to verify these points, here is a link for your reference - czcams.com/video/0pcylasFLp4/video.html
Ohh Mahh Gaawd You watched this video🦁
Well good that you are open for rational debate. May be the last point you mentioned about not explicitly mentioning the background about the studies can lead to the confusion that you supported homeopathy in the end and yeah also not providing the links. These things are not too small to ignore specially in these times when many channels/people are paid by govt to spread their agenda. Hope you have mentioned these facts in description along with sources of the studies now. Have a good rest of your day!✌️
@@Unknown-hi2dr We have showed all the sources visually on screen, with the screenshots of all the relevant portions being referred in the video :) We refer to sooo many sources throughout the video that its like adding a barrage of links in description/comments which become difficult for audience to sort through. We are thinking maybe a google doc or google sheet can be added with all the sections of video along with links neatly categorised. What do you think about this idea? We will finalize any of these methods for future videos. Although from anecdotal feedback, people only prefer to watch the relevant parts of the sources on screen as screenshot (that we do) and hardly anyone goes to description and clicks on the links. Anyone curious enough goes to google and read further on the topic.
Science is dope has completely rejected homeopathy based on it's effectiveness...ur good points of homeopathy are not factual at all...only criticisms are valid so indeed homeopathy is a scam/pseudoscience.....u say it is works for children and then u say it has criticism....so in ur opinion should children take homeopathy?...because it has good points
Liquid homeopathy medicine can be harmful as it contains between 50% to90% alcohol by volume.
I have a (nit-picky) criticism of your video, Pranav. Instead of calling it "Modern medicine", I would call it "Evidence-based medicine". To a culture that equates ancient as better, "Modern medicine" would just be counter-intuitive, whereas the monicker "Evidence-based" is self-explanatory in a holistic way.
Right, evidence based medicine is the best term.
Many times modern medicines also been given without proper evidence. There so many examples available. There is no study which tell bypass surgery works better than heart medicines but still doctors do surgery.
Sahi pakde.
Absolutely
That's dope! I'll definitely be aware of that from now on
As a doctor and an opposer of alternative medicine, people and even relatives send me videos supporting alternative medicine and bizzare claims. Previously i used to talk them out of it, now i just send them your videos.
@@mahanirvaantantra apparently the profile pic doesnt look like his face.
By the way, he has his own youtube channel "The liver doc" .
My father said his prostate enlargement cured by homeopathic medicines... but when he took me to same doctor for my allergies, they got worse and i still cant get out the mild brain fog. These things are a total hit or miss. I know some people who benefitted, but others who got worse. Who knows whats up with our bodies?
@@archiem654 some relatively smart homeopaths understand that going by the generic principles of homeopathy do nothing and add steroids and all kinds of potentially bad stuff without diluting. And because there's virtually no regulation, they can put in as much as they like to, which could do a lot of serious harm.
Alternate medicine also wrks
Haha! I’m glad I could be of help!
Man, literally no medical aspirant has BAMS/BHMS their priority. They chose it due to bad rank in NEET-UG. I don't know why Government is not closing this bloody Ayush Department and converting all BAMS/BHMS seats to MBBS.
if they close AYUSH then Bindus will not vote saying that "You think our culture is flawed? I will not vote for you"
@@pranjaltiwari1663 Take name with respect would you get some migraine if take the name Hindu properly?
+1 Manik Mehta
@@pranjaltiwari1663 Religious indoctrination overcomes logical reasoning , people associate their religion with their identity to such an extent that it becomes toxic and criticizing their dogmas , beliefs and in this case "Ayurveda" will land you in trouble as our current Hindu nationalist government wouldn't want to acknowledge these issues......
@@vibhutisrivastava2789 @manik see! Some one is already offended🤣
Open letter to little too right leaning on topics while trying to be centrist
Because for most right wingers, if you don't agree with them, you're an anti-national atheist asshole liberal.
I guess to appease 70% of his audience he has to lean a little.
Idc if he's right leaning or left. Just need that he speak truth, and be rational.
Used to watch his videos way back and always found them to be under researched and have half baked analysis.
Yes, I used to follow this channel but very soon I realised the hidden right wing agenda behind it
@@yumeko1993 Rational lol.
The Channel 'An Open Letter' is the epitome of enlightened centrism. Not everything needs centrism and neutrality. Some shit deserves to be opposed with full force. In those cases, If you're not vehemently opposing it, you fall on the side of it by default, which is, indeed, like you said......Dangerous.
yes some channels has mastered the art of bothsideism.
They have wrong kind of centerist approach. Politics, economics isn't always black and white and depends on too many factors, so centerist approach is the best. But homeopathy is bogus no matter what.
Exactly 😮💨
Beautifully said @sumit kumar
@Nihilistic Atheist so India is ina resission?
While watching The Open Letter's video, I knew this was going to happen.
Same lol
@MORPHINE There's nothing false in what he said. Can you give me a few examples on the false things he said?
@MORPHINE Good on you that you accepted your mistake. I will repeat my question. Can you give me a few examples on the misleading things he said? I would appreciate if you could answer my question to the point because I'm not here to get into arguments I'm here just to learn new stuff.
@MORPHINE I asked because I saw An Open Letter video and this video as well. To be frank the conclusions that Pranav drew in his video are contrived and biased. Atleast that is what I felt. An Open Letter's video had proper structure and facts and didn't show anything which might lead to one saying that he is a 'homeopathy apologist' like Pranav has repeatedly claimed here. I asked you the question not because what I asked is redundant and already answered in this video but because I asked your opinion. I have already said I'm here only to learn. However it's seems you yourself don't value your opinion. Good day to you bye.
@MORPHINE Also to be clear, I am vehemently against Homeopathy or any of its derivations. The arguments that people using Homeo put forward in favour are mostly nonsense. I have been in full blown arguments with my own family members against Homeopathy. Now if a person like me hasn't found anything wrong in Open Letter's video and his conclusions and Pranav here comes up with new arguments against that video as well I will obviously be intrigued. And after seeing them, I found them to be quite unfounded and bit taking Open Letter's video out of context. My point is not even to oppose or support a channel, I see both regularly. My point is to question why or how one reached a different conclusion from me. Isn't that the whole point of rational discussions and debates?
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I feel he is a propogandist
@@praveenjkhe has problem with the people who try to follow their culture
@@praveenjkthat word has lost all meaning at this point
@@kishalaykumar627ok source ?
When that guy from the channel An Open Letter basically ignores the criticisms of homeopathy, it was like how someone would ignore smoking causes cancer and suggests smoking is an alternative to exercise or something.
@Rupendra Sharma Ayurveda is mostly like supplement. It's better to take Ayurveda medicine than homeopathy.
Or Worse, thinks a flat-earther or an astrologer contributed to the moon missions or james webb.
You haven't even watched that guy's video have you?
@@MohitKumar-jf8lz ayurveda has bloodletting raktamokshana
I presume you would rather trust non fssai food certified 'supplements'
@@epicmusic9029 bloodletting was fine for its time. But where is ur contention Ayurveda is infinitely better than homeopathy. Don't u think Ayurveda medicine are condensed form of its original matter like whey protein.
When something is factually and objectively wrong and someone says 'hey let's agree on the middle ground', they're also on the side of wrong by default.
I was actually searching for this exact comment.
Om swami is self realised vidhi !
How many of you haven't watched Open Letter's video but here watching Pranav debunking him?
Don’t even know who/what this open letter is
I actually have in the past
I don't know what he is debunking.. they are both on the same side..
I actually don't care about An Open Letter videos. He's a proxy.
An open letter is another CZcamsr who pushes the idea that india is the best nation and has no problem what so ever.
can we lump him in the same basket with Abhi and Niyu, Abhijit Chavda and Praveen Mohan?
Just watch abhi and niu.
They potray India as a highly developed Nordic country.
Open letter is hypernationalist and we all know what hypernationalism does to a person
@@NordicPolestar
No he seems ok
Dhruv and Open letter both have their biases,but seem genuine.
@@NordicPolestar what about rana ayub?
I was waiting at a clinic reception to get tested for covid. The guy at the reception got a call and what I could make out of the conversation was that a middle age lady who got bitten by a street dog THREE DAYS AGO was taking homeopathy medicine for the dog bite. The guy did tsk tsk and made a disappointed face. Whereas I was shocked.
Tsk tsk😂👍
An open letter is just trying not to criticise in the way it doesn't hurt the ppl who use it...i dont think he isn't aware of all that..views grabbing without backlash
Which is opportunism and greed and bad.... But we'll said
@@jeshminhaxarika5479opportunist h Puri duniya... Especially CZcams...everyone fosters a certain community and creators usually don't want to offend them at all and purposefully act the way their audience would want them to..it's a feedback loop.
@@jeshminhaxarika5479 I also think SID was right in making the video bcz AOL's comments support homeopathy and think of pathys as different methods rather than pseudo methods
This person is a lier, homeopathy is effective in tea, it adds sweetness to it😂
Love your videos Sir. My teacher and I were discussing about this yesterday and he told me that homeopathy and ayurveda are better than modern medicine. I disagreed and he began telling me that I am young so I know nothing about it and eventually I will start believeing in him and change my mind. I giggled at his response and presented my facts. He was triggered and asked me to shut up
A piece of advice.. avoid arguing with such people. They won't change. Saves our time and energy
a piece of advice , anything on social media , i m repeating "anything " in social media dont take it as Truth .. Neither you have studied Ayurveda nor i have studied .. its better if someone who has expertise on that field should come and talk about it ..
@@sampar0301 i m agree with you but you shouldnt have address Akshara in such a rude way ... its the exact problem we are in currently right now , if you want to make point , do that respectfully ..
@@sampar0301 If any such experience was there, then Ayurveda market would've overtaken modern medicine. Market proves you wrong even on the basis of life experience. Everyone runs towards hospitals not ayurveda even you hypocrite.
Honestly speaking,you just made a FOOL out of yourself.
At one point you agree that "YOU ARE YOUNG and DON'T KNOW MUCH"...yet made a MOCKERY out of someone WHO IS YEARS AHEAD of you.
Glad to see that WITH ALL THESE PRETENTIOUS CLAIMS of INTELLECTUALISM you didn't got the simple fact that
INTELLECT and EXPERIENCE are different and YT are NOT SOURCE of education.
Funny is that the basis of your claims is some random YT video over your teacher's experience.
I think you are bit harsh on open letter..you have bit misunderstood his facts and tone(probably due to language difference)..in entire video he clearly states that homeopathy seems more like pseudoscience and working principle of homeopathy largely seems to depend on placebo effect and long comsultation time..he has no where supported homeopathy except in last part where he quotes that it works better on children and is more effective in arthritis...
Your arguments against him are not valid..you say that why he has not told other criticism of homeopathy..I mean missing 1-2 points cant be taken as being biased..his conclusion is also fair..he has tried to give a balanced opinion with tilt toward the fact that homeopathy is pseudoscience..it would have been better if you would have made a separate video on why homeopathy is pseudoscience..there was no need for making a video,criticizing a relatively unbiased video..
That a trick ... If I have to pass on a fake 500 RS note... The most effective way is to put d fake note in a bundle of real 500rs note... Similarly 1 lie among 3-4 truth is still a lie.... But to a listerner it's creates smoke screen and dilemma. It's a intelligent way and more dangerous than out right hate monger or liers
I feel like I'm in an echo chamber because I hear about these pseudoacientific videos only when you diss them. I tried convincing a few friends that homeopathy is quack science, but it's very difficult to change their minds. I think trashing all quackeries during our formative years is very important because changing an adults mind about their childhood beliefs is very hard!
You are right. The problem in India is that the extensive push to pseudoscience by government is making adults teach pseudoscience to their kids too. I feel sad for our future.
Indeed
I just can't believe that God doesn't exist even if I try but sometimes I say those words
Damn brainwashing is very dangerous as kids
True its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled
True
But you are trapped in Scientific superstition because you can’t see thousands of people getting benefit from Homeopathy. There must be something but your limited Science or cult don’t allow you to understand how it works which itself is against the whole concept of science. Sorry but homeopathy has worked for me many times and Ayurvedic medicine has cured me filaria after many years of taking so called evidence based allopathy failed. I live in Dhanbad,Jharkhand and late Dr. Hembram in Ranchi had given me those natural ayurvedic medicine. If you have any doubt you can visit Ranchi and check whether there is Dr. Hembram or not. Sorry but this Science channel has nothing to do with science and you are trapped. Denying is not science but exploring and finding facts is science. Believe me we have a doctor who gives natural medicine for Jaundice here in Govindpur area of Dhanbad dist. who gives only two doses of medicine to fully cure jaundice. You have to accept results and admire them.
“Ninety-five per cent of the syllabus of MBBS and BHMS (Bachelor of Homeopathy, Medicine and Surgery) is the same,” .Pharmacology is the only MBBS course that is not touched in BHMS. Do you think only the artificial chemical work.. there are some natural occurring chemical component as well which are anti pyretic. Anti diabetic .. reducing bp etc .
All other animals except humans are their own doctors.. if they get sick they know how to treat .. some carnivorous even eat some plants to cure..
What??
@@justasapien2620in schools from 5th till 10th std all children should be taught basic medical evaluation based on their symptoms and treat their disease without going to doctors.
Everybody should become their own doctors .. only for operation or other medical intervention external help required.
@a all human should be taught about basic diagnosis and it's treatment without doctors..
@a i am not a bhms doctor..But I have my friends who are MD in Bhms.. i know their syllabus and mbbs syllabus as well..Pharmacology is the only subject which is different.
That climax was unexpected and awesome. Discussion with Dr. Shantanu 😂
You rock 👍👏
Hey! about not being able to make a video in Hindi, 19:24 Do you want someone who can give a Hindi Voiceover or translate your script to Hindi for subtitles ? I can help if you want.
Please do email me
yaay!! I hope everything works out and we get Pranav's videos dubbed in Hindi! :) Hope there are volunteers for other languages too.
Like String channel
@@scienceisdope waiting eagerly for Hindi translated videos....
Pranav bhai huge fan. Thanks for adding some meaning into our lives.Your videos are insightful and quite clear when it comes to debunking many science myths.
Hey Pranav Sir.. I am your regular viewer and have a lot of Faith in modern scinece.. my brother is a NEET aspirant.. and he was getting enough marks to get a college which has BAMS or BHMS course. he told that he was going to get into one of them.. but once I showed few of your videos to him.. he has now successfully taken a drop year and will study hard enough to get a seat in MBBS. Thanks for reigniting his fire. Wishing you sucess and many more subscribers in the future.
Good wishes for your brother.
Kudos to you too for making your brother for making your brother aware about it.
Good. You saved his life from getting stuck with a swindling profession
We wish him all the best, I hope another hardworking lad who aspire to become a doctor doesn't have to end up doing bhms/bams and defend what he never believed in first place. And kudos to you too.
@@neetphodovideos9687 Thanks a lot dear 🙏
@@doctoraby5409 Thanks a lot Doctor sir!
Hey, i just want to know is unani medicine is ok like i am using their oil for pain and it works and i have also used hamdard Shafi for pimples and it was very effective
Hey what works for you works for you use it. It may be useful it might be placebo but just don't recommend it to anybody without research
How interesting it is Homeopathy was introduced some 200 years ago, then also there were criticism and today also its the same,but Homeopathy on the hind side just like before is curing and benefiting the general masses despite being the pseudoscience, how interesting is that why don' t you research the other way that how many sources or researches are there in favor of Homeopathy. Reading google articles and articles being funded by the pharma world doesn't make you intelligent about something which is already being question after its discovery.
hope you never use Homeopathy, as its Placebo effect and contains Steroids, which can kill you eventually. Stay safe and stay healthy.
he has deleted many of his older videos in his other channel
Why?
Bringing in Dr Abhyankar was the best to debunk pseudoscience
Open letter aka surplus IT cell funds parking account
I would avoid using the word “stupid” in your videos it may trigger sensible people. Instead use “likely little bit biased” or “likely little bit scientifically uneducated in graduate level statistics and scientific methodology” or “he oversimplified a complex subject that only PhD holders in pharmacovigilance master correctly”…. etc. Just an idea and my personal subjective opinion. And try to recommend at least three of five graduate or postgraduate textbooks at the end of the videos for people who want to go deeper into the subject.
Thank you for putting things in perspective 👍🏻👌☺️
Thank you Dr. Shantanu!
Thank you Dr. Shantanu for coming up.
This clearly shows how words can be taken out of context and interpreted in a biased way.
Hi, Is this video also made in some of the Indian languages (like kannada or Hindi)? This could be a really good information to share in family groups 😃.
What is placebo effect and how to measure the effect? What are the parameters taken to test Placebo effect?
Really underrated youtuber!!These videos need views in millions. The hard work he puts in every video is truly worthpraising.
You are Wong about one thing in homeopathy the liquid medicine in not full water it contains alcohol between 50% to 90% by volume.
Yes, and then people drink the no side effect tincture and it fries their liver.
Sir I have many videos of my patients cured of homeopathy, even the case of alcoholism! where can I share ?
Is tooth brace good or bad? Does it lead to tooth loss? what r your views on it.
Consult doctor
Hi Pranav this may be off topic but I have to say don't regret making videos in English. You are reaching wider audience in the long run and english is pretty common everywhere nowadays. Heck I'm from south India and I'm glad you make videos in english.
I feel a war going to happen 💀
Depends on open letter ki usko kitni mirchi lagti hai, rt now this video is second to his onsearch results 😆
Do the kids below two year also believe that they will be ok if they take medicine. How they get well. A kid took an allopathic medicine for a disease and not cured. But after taking homeopathy he got well. Is it possible due to placebo effect. Please give insight.
why you asking from him...he is not a doctor....he is just a youtuber....you should ask from a homeopathic doctor
@@seeker7090 Brother he is arguing against it so we should ask him, what is the point in asking a homeopathy doctor, he will definitely say that homeopathy works, and there is a false propaganda of placebo effect, because his bread and butter is homeopathy. Let this guy answer this because, he is arguing that homeopathy don't work, so we can get a suitable reply from this guy only.
I am taking homeopathy for years for various diseases. They're working good on me. I never prefer allopathy.
People call me mad when I preach about this in my town. Purvanchal area of up is the hub of homeopathy
They are correct
You destroyed his claims mercilessly with 17:26 🤣
It can be effective for renal calculi
Background: Urinary stones measuring less than 5 spontaneously with urine but only 50% of stones measuring so. Stones measuring more than 7 mm generally need some like shock wave lithotripsy and/or surgery for removal. Aims: To examine if renal stones of all sizes can be successfully expelled through homeopathic remedies without surgical intervention. Materials and methods: Homeopathic remedies were selected symptoms” according to “similia principle” and by repertory of Kent. Patients were screened for symptoms renal calculi and advised USG test. Selected homeopathic change of symptoms periodically monitored. Results: All 9 patients (5 male and 4 female) detected with renal calculi measuring between 5 and 7 mm expelled their stones through urine after homeopathic treatment as confirmed by USG. Similarly, 4 out of 5 patients with stones measuring more than 7 mm also expelled their stones successfully with homeopathic remedies; one patient with the largest stone (16 mm) was greatly ameliorated with the stone size reduced (9 mm). Conclusion: Homeopathic treatment can remove renal stones without surgery and can provide an alternative option for non-invasive treatment.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32610348/
There can be exceptions..
@@Nikita-cb7pf i personally know surgeons who suggested homeopathy for renal calculi in india.. it works.
I watched an open letter's Video and it had a lot in common with Kurzgesagt's homeopathy video, and I don't think he supported Homeopathy in the end, he instead points out what modern medicine that can learn from Homeopathy and he did criticize the core principles of homeopathy which means he did criticise homeopathy.
Nah bro. An open letter is a right winged analyst who acts like an unbiased analyst
@@youreright3802 ha isme bhi politics gusado why his political views to do with this dude if you support science that means you are leftist ? and you support homepath you are conservative wtf bro then who is dhruv rathee and i recomend to go through facts why idealogy matters even in political videos
@@anonymous-wp2hc you got me wrong. When you watch Dhruv rathee videos on politics you notice a left leaning point of view on news but when you watch people like Prashant dhawan (world affairs) you clearly see the right leaning focus on news. When it comes to centrist opinions there's barely any on youtube with consistency (that the algorithm has shown me)
Now that same essence is what is seen with an open letter's narrative, IMHO, with the narrative he portrays and the topics he chooses to talk about or ignore (like any other politically charged youtube account left or right)
However When it comes to Pranav (this channel) you see that he tries to stay away from the political angle and focuses more on the reality of abstract scientific and pseudoscience perspective as it is a politically neutral topic (For the most part)
Also I'm a centrist. Hence I engage in conversation before assuming things. I would like to know what you think about it, however I'm doubtful of your insights.
I just watched Open Letter's video and it is a very fair criticism of Homeopathy in all respects. I wonder how you ended up with the conclusion that he is a subtle 'homeopathy apologist'. Like literally 90% of his video is spent establishing that Homeopathy is BS and is baseless. A few points that he mentions about Homeopathy in positive light (not approving of Homeopathy as a whole) are extensive consultation by doctor before prescribing any medicine and lack of side effects. While we obviously know why homeopathy medicine lack side effects, the extensive holistic consultation is something that modern medicine can certainly do better in. If a person is repeatedly suffering frequent fractures, I'm quite sure the doctor treating him would just treat the factures and not worry about why the person is suffering from frequent fractures quite simply because as you pointed out there aren't that many medical professionals going around to treat all of us that way. While getting holistic treatment is not something patented or introduced by homeopathy, his video simply pointed out how modern medicine can learn from that method of treatment. How is this being a 'homeopathy apologist'??
Yes but Open letter’s conclusion is similar to saying smoking and exercise both make you happy, hence smoking is an alternative to exercise after listing out side effects of each
To everyone supporting homoeopathy - If you can prove that homoeopathy works, you can go ahead and claim the Nobel prize in Physics next year. :)
@EliteGuy why
Hey, bro I've seen ur short try to upload it as it premiered and ur thumbnail will be visible right now there r not
Next target of this guy is dhruv rathe, deshbhakat, world affair , AKTK
THIS GUY NOT GOING TO STOP😂
Wow, check mate to this open letter guy 👏🏽. Actually brought the doctor on the video instead of using a clip😂💯
Guys share this video as much as you can ✊✊
@Doctor aby has not responded to many of my comments yet. Was the video links shared by me too hard on your "scientific temper"?
Sir... Please make a video on subconscious mind.. Actually I'm a little bit confused about that topic. I tried to do research about that. But I didn't get satisfactory result. So could you please help me out...!!😅😅😬
Just came back to watch your latest video and found this. my mom has been suggesting me to take these sugar pills for the last 3 days as I was suffering from cold and fever. what a coincidence.
Climax was not expected! 🤣
Hey pranav,
I would like to know if there are any disadvantages of taking homeopathy medicines? Let's say we have a situation of a guy who is sick and consulted many doctors and consumed modern medicine as prescribed by doctors but he didn't felt better and by someone's recommendation he took homeopathy medicines and got well so is it good for him to take homeopathy medicines? Placebo effect will happen with every medicine but the set of people getting affected by it may differ. So after trying every kind of medicine if someone is feeling better from homeopathy only then is it bad for him to consume it because compared to modern medicine they have very few and mild side effects.
Although homeopathy medicine doesn't have any effect and can't be relied on but is getting treated by placebo harmful?
I'm just giving my opinion here, but at that point where the problem wasn't that serious and he got better because of Placebo effect, there is no problem with that itself. But when he starts believing in it whole heartedly. Then get seriously ill. Then at that point he may actually believe that homeopathy will heal him. But it would be like leaving the disease untreated. Which could be fatal in some cases, saying this one from experience.
@@priyamsharma6336 i got your point but i just want to know is taking homeopathy medicines in itself harmful or not i am not talking about curing disease
@@amannimje4219 It's may vary care to case but mostly from what I've seen they don't directly harm the patient. Since these meds may actually trigger something else like a allergy or something which definitely could cause harm,(also from experience) .But this generally sends a wrong or I should say a misleading signal, that such meds are effective. Which could then be harmful in turn or even fatal, as it happened to a person I knew.
I watched the video of an open letter before this and personally the conclusion that I drew from that video is summed up in the last sentence of his video "the need of the our is scrutiny and questioning not blind belief"
There are just two words in pranav's Dictionary "Logic" and "evidance"
Bro trust me I'm all for it.
Keep on doing
Please make a video
on myths of yoga
🚨🚨🚨 psedoscience police
do you think yoga is a myth??
@@vamsiakula9860 bro I mean to say myths spreaded by people like Yoga can treat diabetes, heart attack ,Asthama
I didn't said yoga is myth it is good Exercise even buddhist People have similar kind of thing like vippsana but just exercise Can't treat your health problem therefore these claims need to be Address
Myths of Yoga?
Don't become such a free thinker that even your brain slips out
Lol "myths of yoga"
You should do yoga "everyday" And then tell us myths of yoga
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@@mriduldubey1883 Bro, Pranav's followers are rigid brains which can only look at life through the filter of logic. I pity on them. 😂
I had first watched Science is dope's rebuttal to Homeopathy and then when I saw Open letter taking a soft stance on the same I really wanted a rebuttal.
Hey mate you're going ruffle a lot of feathers with videos like these. Stay safe. A lot of religious as well as nationalist people would want to cause you harm for debunking pseudoscience in their religion or for discrediting India's glorious past.
Non -existent?? Can you list some events
@@denken7764 onus is on the claimant to list the events. I don't believe in our glorious past. Innovations of our ancestors were consistent with technology and knowledge available at the time.
Don't worry, nationalists r not going to do Sar tan se juda...
If he makes video on ur Prophet sahab, then he can't step out of house, can't even live at his home.
If a people is truely nationalist then in favour of nation he has to accept rationality and reject pseudoscience
I’m a new subscriber. Loving your content. Keep up the great work! 👍🏽
@Pesu Englishkara Pesu of course everyone should condemn it. Can you also condemn it
@Pesu Englishkara Pesu Islamic studies ka expert tu hi toh h 🤣🤣 ghochu chaddi
@Pesu Englishkara Pesu Can you condemn Sambhu Nath Raigar. Thought not. Its funny how you bhakts jump at people with names from a certain community and bombard them with irrelevant topics. Ironic when you lot call them keedas when its you lot acting like one against everyone who dont align be it muslims, commies, dalits, Christians, even hindus(Im bharadwaj btw)
@Virat hope you watched double see, sadguru
all the psedoscientist on youtube :-Are baap re ,ye to dhoti khol rha hai😂😂
Your intentions seem genuine but the way you lay out your arguments can be somewhat weak as it seems to be in several of your videos. I like that you provide evidence-based info and sources to check for the same.
But you often come across as a person you're trying to argue against. for e.g when you talked about post hoc fallacy, you assume that the outcome wasn't the result of the action taken before. It may be true, but since even you haven't proven it otherwise possibly both the cases remain open and it's not necessarily a post hoc.
Most of your arguments are literature based which doesn't take into account personal experiences or a case study for the same. You can throw all the theoretical data but it becomes difficult for a person to be convinced if their own experience has been effective and positive.
Like in this case with homeopathy, my personal experience has resulted in a visible change for myself. And I am someone who was a skeptic and non-believer in it but I cannot refute the evidence of my own experience even if I want to.
Also, you avoid having a first-hand experience of something in a situation where it's possible for you to achieve it. In this video, you took a sleeping pill for 1 day and claimed it to be ineffective. That's not a genuine way to test something. You didn't even go through any consultation or any such thing or went through the actual process. If you had then you would have made a very compelling argument to change ppl's mind.
He is not a researcher , he is a teacher , he just studies research and teach , question why researcher finds homeopathy useless
Some people have "experienced" gods flying sphaggetis and shit. Do you want that to be in science?
See his video on "Why scientists tend to be atheist?" to get a clarity on how and what actually becomes scientific.
@@danishdubey Scientists aren't always atheists. And what does whatever you said has to do with m comment .
@@hemangasarma5700 well whe you study someone else's research, that's your research for your project (be it an educational video) . He has already tried to act as a researcher by consuming the tablets to eventually conclude that he had no effects by the end of the video. And that's the part I am telling him about where he is insincere.
@@JustGotALife it's the name of a video, go search that.
And I'm saying science cannot be based on "experiences" but predictions and experimentation
Bro, by any chance have you worked in any e-learning platforms???? I was learning physics and suddenly a guy just like you came and his name was pranav too😲
Proud of you. Great work! I feel as if you are the voice of the very few people who realize the remarkable contribution of science to where we have reached as humanity. Science teaches humilty, willingness to accept failures on the face, learn from it and move forward.
But .. the stupids are cocksure.. if u probe them, they will get angry loseminds and playvictim card
Most of the BHMS doctors practice Allopathy / modern medicine
Yes. That's why they don't allow you to take prescription home because it's called cross pathy and every bams/bhms practitioner who have his own clinic does this. They could end up in jail.
I also remember watching that video and getting disappointed in the end. Glad you made a response.
Keep up the good work. From a M.D [GENERAL MEDICINE] getting headache on a regular basis from patients who come to a modern medicine practitioner but argue on Ayurvedic & Homeopathy framework. I don't even understand why they come to me if they trust those fields of medicine.
And I agree that most who believe are even if educated & rich, they are not rational or scientifically tempered and you can see the same in their talk and behaviour in non-medical issues like their opinions on other people, how they carry out their businesses etc.
I am a subscriber of Open Letter. I find that guy's opinions a bit centric. I'm really happy that you made a video on him. Constructive critisism is really needed on CZcams. The thing that makes me even more happier is that you two guys are not atleast fighting on CZcams just becoz of critisism.
Can you also make a video on Johnsons and Johnsons case ?
You are doing public good. I wish your channels gets explosive growth.
you know what , actually you are my teacher, who takes care of students by giving them the clear vision of the topic and not misleading them.
Right on money. Hardly struck. Fingers crossed for the Ayush department video!
Next : Science is dope exposes Jordan Peterson
He's all fluff, not too much pseudoscience.
Watch one of the recent video by the channel "Some more news". He makes some good arguments.
Jordan bhaiya ne kya kar diya?
That will be more regarding logical fallicious arguments than science
On what?
When I was a kid I use to have throat infection thru out the year. I use to take allopathic medicine. My dose had increased so much that even the medical store people use to be like is the medicine for kid. Then I took homeopathic , it took six months but ever since I rarely face the problem.
Far away from this type of Peoples these are planted by rothschild
Are u sure that it weren't your natural immune system, change in climate, surroundings n habits, but homeopathy?
U just showed "Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc" fallacy, which pranav talked about.
+ Point: anectods doesn't count.
Bruh , it took 6 months for your confirmation bias
@@glkglkglkglk9193 yes it took time but atlast it got cured. I was suffering for 5 yrs. Alopathy was nt able to build immunity.
@@yumeko1993 🤣🤣🤣 idiot..
Can you make a hindi version of your channel?
Pranav
This is Dr Prashant Kumar a homoeopathy practitioner past 24 yrs
What made you do this video on Homoeopathy at this juncture?
Is it because it is gaining popularity in past 20 yrs or are you being hired or funded by the Allopathy (so called modern medicine) fraternity or the medicine manufacturer's lobby .You have got your basics wrong on Homoeopathy.When a system is gaining popularity it is because of the results they produce,it's stupidity on your side to put a statement that the time spent with the patients is the reason.Its only the results which speaks.Homoeopathy is a pure , complete science based on pure scientific principles.Science cannot change with time.Drugs of the past have been dumped today as causing major health disorders especially Carcinomas(cancer).Is this what you call science or evidence based medicine?.
First change your mind set regarding the system, Homoeopathy is a system which has medicines for 90 percentage of the existing human disorders.It has got medicines for all the medical departments available.The remaining 10 percent is for accident cases and cancer.First and foremost let the allopaths only practice modern medicine,not the people of other systems like Ayurveda Unani and Siddha.
Homoeopathy doctores should practice only Homoeopathy system.You try bringing it to the notice of the government.Thats the best job which you can do now.You should update your knowledge regarding Homoeopathy.
If you have any questions please do mail me I will convince you as to what this system is and what are the benefits of this wonderful system.Iam not against Allopathy (modern medicine).We have to coexist and work for the betterment of the human race
Either provide evidence for your system's legitimacy, or be ready to be labled as a scammer :)
Just because it's gaining popularity doesn't mean it's right. Astrology is quite popular in India, does that make it right ? The very foundation of homeopathy - similia similibus curentur - is non sense.
@@arunshankars8398 Astrology is science as yoga is. Till the 1940s, yoga was also ridiculed by the west now west is doing more yoga than Indians. The day west will accept it most people in India will also accept it. Having said that, unfortunately, there are a lot of scammers in the field of astrology. Also, no-one currently pursues astrology full time like other courses. Also, like any other field it needs its own research and correction but it's not pseudoscience. We humans are impacted by planetary positions in different capacities and hence astrology if researched further could definitely guide us.
I have seen many videos of open letters. I think he mostly does not reach to final conclusion of a discussion to avoid any criticism. He only explains thing from different perspective.
Once you put 10 points against a particular thought and 1 or 2 points for it, its evident what you are trying to say. Same with Open Letter, he may not have given his final conclusion but it is pretty much evident.
Uska dikh kar aata hai bias.... But theek hai, he still is better than strings waala sasta Dhanush 😂😂💸
@@AP-eb8hd i have watched his homeopathy video. I think it was good and informative. And after watching that i still think homeopathy is placebo and not good.
@@sunitsundarpradhan1016 It is placebo only... What do you mean not good? Another important thing to know.. How will you actually explain Placebo in scientific term?
@@garnetgun Usko to sound effects jyada pasand he...kou statement baka aur pishkoo🤣🤣🤣
Keep debunking more pseudoscience pranav!
Hey Can you please a video on does ghost exist or not please or you can tell about the difference between possession and multiple personality syndrome
Awesome video as always! I am curious about your educational background if you want to tell
I think he has a LinkedIn profile. Try there.
Indian govt. is a hub of pseudoscience🤣, man you just triggerd the bhakts now.
I just came across this channel and got to know that every famous youtuber is doing some wrong according to him
And after watching his video is prooves nothing … just says something more related to topic
Nothing wrong. Watch till you understand. Slow learners take time. Non learners find nothing in anything
Good to see that we have well educated people capable of critical thinking in this country.
I really don't understand why these ppl act like all pathys are different and have there own scopes and limitation and hence shouldn't be disregarded. That's not true. A problem if solved thru an acceptable solution is a solution. If i invent a new math where I can easily prove things using a pseudo method, my solutions to all those problems will be WRONG. Again, science and maths are ever evolving subjects we don't use the same methods we did in physics... Right? Once they were proven false? And no body argues that they shud be used. I don't understand why they don't treat medicine the same way. Why is it acceptable for falsifiable claims to be used as valid and taught to sooo many students in india. How? Like I'm genuinely curious pls someone enlighten me on this.
Sir, what r the steps to identify true facts from fake facts? What r the method used by scientists to identify truth? And how can common people adopt that?
check out his video titled: 'How to spot a bad claim | Beerbiceps as an example'.
He has a playlist the scientific method
I watched Open Letter's video and what I felt was when he talked about Placebo effect and dilution I understood what Open letter is trying to do here is point out that Homeopathy is stupid. #MyOpinion
Beautifully made bro. Can you please make a video on Kangen water? I want to better equip myself when I discard it's effectiveness infront of my circles..
but is it safe to give a patient placebo what if the condition or disease worsens?
Can't wait, this is gonna be lit
Beautifully explained Why Homoeopathic Medicine don't work and its just a Placebo effect. I have some questions Regarding this .Let me list out some.
1 If Homoepathy is Clearly treating a patient on Placebo effect and is Curing then Why don't every Doctor ( MBBS, BDS,BAMS) try the same as it is evident that it can treat the patient only from placebo effect also .
2 Refering to my question no 1 . Have anyone conducted an experiment or test where one patient is tried by giving only placebo ( Not homeopathy Medicine) and see upto how extent the patient Heals and on the other hand If the patient does not get better from the placebo given then try the result again after taking Homeopathic Medicines ?.
3 Can Medicine be Made only using the formula and Principles Modern medicine follows as you said in the video about Germ Theory etc or If the things works (Test Medicine) and treats a patient Completely but doesn't follow the principles and regulations like that of modern Medicine Will that be Called a medicine or that too a placebo ?
Do you know what placebo is?
Hello @Science Is Dope I would like to request you to make a video on Dr. Biswaroop Roy Chaudhary and talk about his Dip diet, Postural medicine and on his views on "Corona and vaccine is a Scam".
Okay so people genuinely believe in homeopathy and pay a lot for ir but when I try to sell skittles as medicines for much cheaper no one believes me.
You just put my thoughts to words dude!
A request : Please make a video on how unscientific claims are made to justify women not being able to worship inside a temple, when their menstruation cycle is on. People need to be educated on this. It's high timeee
It'll get him cancelled bro, right wingers won't take it lightly
@@youreright3802 Sure they'll try, but I don't think they'll be able to. He has good support :)
Generally women feel sick during those days. So it's a suggestion to them not to a rituals and house works and others. later on it became a superstition but just think in normal way.... it's giving freedom to a women not to do anthing on those days .
@@vamsiakula9860 Some give this reasoning, when in actuality the period blood is deemed ' dirty ' by the people opposing women entry. In today's times, the people are conveniently forgetting not letting women do household chores as they're sick, but do remember to not let them do pooja or even visit a temple. I have legit seen a Tedx talk talking about how temples are built in places of high energy and women undergo low vibrations during their menstrual cycle, so this is the reason why they aren't allowed. Like which high energy exists there, & if it really is there, we should definitely tap into it to generate electricity or somethin'
According to science, God does not exist, so going to the temple itself is an unscientific thing.
Brother , also make a video on pseudo- history and pseudo- arcalogy. 👍
Hello neet aspirant
Councelling is about to start.
Please don't select BAMS/BHMS/BUMS.
If have got any doubt please read charak samhita by PV Sharma.
Your videos are so refreshing, subscribed! Science IS dope!
'An open letter' is a that type of guy who can give negative as well as POSITIVE points of worshipping 'Goddess Corona'. 🤡
Reference:-Some people in UP worshipped Corona virus🦠😷as goddess to prevent infection. 🤣That too by gathering people from neighbour without any social distancing.
czcams.com/video/DEyD8PTb250/video.html
Prophet corona*
I have seen alternative medicine doctors say that modern medicine doctors are not giving full information to patients about how to stay healthy because they want to fill their pockets. (And not in a plain sentence. They would tell a story.) But I have never seen a modern medicine doctor not doing it. Apart from prescribing medicines, they also say what to do and what not to do in daily life to get better soon.
True, modern medicine doctors are just filling pockets. Nothing else. I got typhoid, they didn't ask to change my food even
how about adding Hindi captions to all your videos?
Why stop at Hindi, why not Bengali, Odia, Sindhi, Marathi etc?
Could you make a detailed video on drugs like minoxidil, finestaride etc ? Male pattern baldness, greying of hair etc is a big issue imo. For me atleast. How do we cure it? If it's not genetic that is. Balayam/ diet/ fixing sleep schedule hasn't helped me yet imo.
@a are you bald?