Testing A 2022 RAM 3500 With My 14k Fifth Wheel || Don't Buy A Dually??? Let Me Explain!
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- čas přidán 26. 12. 2021
- Check out this 2022 RAM 3500 Laramie Dually! I had a chance to hook my fifth wheel up to it and show some of the futures along with how the suspension handles over 2800#'s of pin weight. I also respond to a video I did saying, "Don't buy a dually". || Like || Subscribe || Share ||
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Truck: 2022 RAM 3500 Laramie Cummins
Trailer: 2019 Keystone Cougar 368MBI Fifth Wheel
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I'm an RV transporter. For the 5th wheels, you need the dually for the pin weight. For the bumper pulls, you WANT the dually for the added stability, particularly in wind.
Even for lighter bumper pulls. The dually just makes the camper much more comfortable to pull. Much more stable, especially in wind. Take it from someone who's pulled coast to coast with SRW and DRW.
Also - Make sure your bumper pull is putting enough weight on the hitch. Number one thing that causes sway is too much weight at the rear of the trailer.
If your tow vehicle squats when the bumper pull is hooked up and you've got ~2200 hitch weight, sure you can "fix" it with an expensive weight distribution hitch. But you're really masking the fact that your tow vehicle's suspension isn't up to the task.
You definitely don't always need a dually for a fifth wheel. Plenty of SRW trucks that can handle the pin weight of most 5th wheels. Yes, it will handle better but not a must.
@@krisshyne4358 What's the average pin weight of the 5th wheels you've been hauling? The ones I pull these days have hydraulic levelers. Very common to have them weigh in at 14500-16500 actual dry weight. Which is around 3k pin minimum.
That pushes the limit on cargo capacity for most srw 1 tons.
Really what should determine dually or non dually is gvw. If you are pulling a 14 K trailer that only leaves you with 12 K on the tow rig. Gross combo weight of 26,001 or higher requires a Class a that doesn’t need air endorsement. All 50 states no one‘s exempt. My single wheel 1 ton ram is 11900k so I can haul a 14 K trailer without a CDL even though I have one if it was a dually it would most likely be a higher gvw. Also does not matter what it’s registered for it just matters what is on the Vin tag for weight
@@ryanselleck6035 What determines whether you should use drw vs. srw is mainly pin weight. You need enough RAWR to cover it and your fuel and cargo. An srw truck is going to be limited there.
If DOT scales you, the axle weight ratings are what matters. You can't exceed any axle weight rating whether CDL or non CDL.
In addition, if you are non CDL, then the GVWRs of your truck and trailer added together can't exceed 26000.
@@ryanselleck6035 Not true legally. If your GVWR for your truck is 14K & your truck weighs 11900 then that leaves 2900 lbs you can add to actual weight of truck. So if a trailer weighs 14000 lbs then this will add 2800 lbs if nothing is in the trailer. If you put anything else or anyone else in the truck then you are illegal. Also if pulling legally without a CDL you have to go by the actual GVWR of both the truck & trailer combined. You cannot go by weight. I also haul travel trailers for a living. Many guys have gotten ticketed & shut down for this without a CDL. Example your truck GVWR is 14,000 lbs. So this means a trailers GVWR cannot exceed 11,999 lbs. Your 14K weight trailer is probably around 16K gvwr.
My 3500 dually is great pulling a 12000lb travel trailer 39 ft long gives me great stability and I use it as a daily driver
Watched many of your videos JB, now I'm moving into the 5th wheel realm and I've learned so much from you, thank you so much, keep it up!
JB, I keep watching all your videos while waiting on my 2022 Ram 3500 Crew Cab 4x4 Limited SRW w/air suspension to come in. You just keep letting me know I got the right truck every time I click and watch, lol. Keep it up with the videos; you definitely helped me make my decision on this new ride easier. Now for the wait... it's built and waiting to ship as we speak. 🙂
That’s awesome Lawrence! Good luck and hope it ships soon! You could have dealer call the business center to hot tag it so it gets there quicker 👍🏾
Hey JB, wrote you months ago. Originally built a 22 3500 mega with max tow package back in July. It never got here in time so I ditched my build and found a 3500 dually limited crew cab max tow with HO instead. Picking it up this week and really glad I didn't go with the mega cab! More payload and better pin weight load. Thank you for being such a great Ram spokesperson. You really tell it like it is and we appreciate it! Looking forward to getting my new truck home! One thing though....will miss my ramboxes they have been awesome!
Hey Laurie, sorry about that, I’m getting so many comments I can’t keep up like I used to. I think you made a great choice for sure and the good news is that long bed will really come in handy. Thanks for the comment and I hope you enjoy your new rig 😃. Send me your email so I can get a picture to post on my community page 👍🏾
Love this video, those numbers on the spreadsheet help so much.
Thanks Ray 👍🏾
Another great video. Good information. Good explanation. Thanks for your time.
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You really do a great job on your videos. Very informative.
Thanks Gary 👍🏾
In my 2022 manual under the Instrument Cluster Display Message section it mentions this:
Pushing the Alternate Trailer Height (ATH) button
once while at Normal Ride Height (NRH), will lower
the vehicle to Alternate Trailer Height (ATH) and will
illuminate the LED.
The button it is referring to is located to the left of the Tow/Haul button.
I bought my 3500 dually in April 2019, brand new. It's my daily driver and I love it. Now as for trailer pin weight calculations. I've said it before and I will say it again. I wish people would stop using the dry pin weight ratio, because it is terribly misleading. You see your camper has a 17% ratio. However, the bulk of your cargo storage (and I'm talking heavy storage) is ahead of the axles on your camper. The further ahead of those trailer axles the weight is located, the higher the percentage of weight that is going on the pin. For example, let's say you put 800lbs in the front storage, I bet 600 of that goes on the truck, and 200 on the camper. So you have just increased your pin weight a lot compared to the amount of weight the camper has increased. So now your ratio is all off. I'm glad you showed the correct pin weight, but I have seen videos where people try and justify a maxed out setup by using those dry weight ratios. And it's terribly misleading. Keep up the great work, and hope you guys had a merry Christmas!
He used 21 % as he explained in the calculations section of the video.
Yea dry weights are misleading for sure especially when you add front air conditioner, generator, and washer/dryer 👍🏾
@@supporterofsanity yes, if you read my entire post, I said I am glad he used the proper pin weight, but there are a lot of misleading videos out there where they try to justify a maxed out setup by using too light of a pin weight ratio. BTBRV recommends 20% GVWR for 5th wheels and 10% for travel trailers. And that is very close to what I have seen in the past. JB is the man and tells it like it is. I wasn't saying anything bad about his video, as he did it correct!
Hey JB, I enjoy your reviews very much, lots of good info.
Can you link to the spread sheet you used? The one that's up there didn't work for me.
I appreciate you. Happy New Year to you and your family.
Good review, I found your review because I just bought the same exact truck tonight except mines white and I love it, it’s an incredible truck, the nice thing about it it doesn’t feel like a big truck it doesn’t feel like a Dooley or a long bed I had a 2016 1 ton single wheel and this thing feels easier to drive, and it’s comfortable, congratulations enjoy your truck it’s beautiful
Thanks and congrats on your purchase!
I measure the rear axel and front axel. I have a 2021 single rear wheel ram 3500 4x4. When I put my 9075 lb fifth wheel trailer on the hitch it lowers the rear of the truck 3/4 of an inch . It also raises the front of the truck 3/4 of an inch. This will give you the weight transfer on the truck.
Great information !!
Thanks 😃
Good Video, I ordered a Ford Lariat SRW F350 with payload of 3800 lbs, Gas 7.3 (Godzilla), which is plenty for me. I wanted to stay with gas as I could not justify the extra 10K for a diesel. But I will say Ram does do a excellent job with there trucks also, I am coming out of a 2019 Ram 1500 myself which was a good truck, (not enough payload naturally). Nice job by you doing all your homework on what you needed.... Best of luck to you with your new rig and happy camping.
Great review JB! If a guy has the $$$$ the RAM 3500 Dually (w/air ride) will tow just about any 5th wheel made and tow it safely through those mountain peaks out west!
My favorite part of towing with a dually is how well it bucks side winds.
I agree w you, but as an aside, I hauled my Creek to Topeka In, and the only way I knew it was windy, 15-20 mph w gusts to 30 or so, was when I stopped at a rest area and got out and the winds were very strong.
It’s a SRW and I was towing about 14000 lbs. no issues.
We always love to see others, we just posted our video last week of our 2022 dually on our channel. So far we are loving it but we also put 10k in upgrades on it 😀
I agree with you 100% on the truck and trailer combination. You need the right size of truck to handle the trailer that you have or plan to get. Some people try to tow a elephant with a mouse, that’s a disaster waiting to happen. 👍👍👍on the video, have a blessed day today, God Bless y’all & keep’m coming
Thanks James, blessings to you and yours 👍🏾
When you measure the rear axel also measure the front axel .on my 2021 single rear wheel 3500 ram when I set m
Thanks JB for the great Video and would like to see the numbers on your 2500 as comparison. The number 1 thing is safety as you have stressed in previous videos. How much is the Laramie going to set me back?
Appreciate the comment, I plan to get my 3500 weighed within the next couple of weeks or so. It’s funny, I went back to go do a video on this truck and it sold… that’s why I never reviewed the pricing 👍🏾
I drive an Lbz Dually as a daily and there is one rule that any big truck must follow,
“ if the mirrors fit then the back will”
But always make sure to leave enough room to open your door without hitting anything.
I have a 22 limited dually, its has a 8inch lift and it's on 37s, I will never tow with it, bit I got it because I like how it looks, so u should get whatever u want for whatever u want it for
That’s awesome! I see heavily modified duallies every blue moon and man do they look amazing 👍🏾
I'm looking at a dually, and I very well, may never use it to its capabilities. But man, they have a distinguished look to them that sets them aside, and I'm willing to deal with the day to day set backs.
Same here, dually's have a shmexy look to em haha
You get one?
Open the four screws on the Bed mounted RV plug and clock it 180 it’ll line up perfectly and give you clear sight
Hey man, big fan of the channel love your videos! I have a random question. Do the 5th gen laramies come standard with the steering directed headlights?
You would have to go to a Limited Longhorn or Limited to get the directional headlights. Thanks 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork thank you so much! I have a 22 laramie on order and just couldn't remember if those came with them.
Awesome job very helpful! Them hips tho💪🇺🇸
Thanks bro! 😂
My daily driver is a Ford f450 and the only issue is some parking garages. Even take it through most drive ups at fast food places. Few issues overall.
I prefer a dually, I haul for a living & my dually I bought in September of 2012 just surpassed 1 Million miles. We run into lots of bad weather & the stability of a dually makes a big difference especially in wind.
JB, As a 2020 Ram 2500 owner why is a single rear wheel 3500 difficult to live with day to day?
Before diesel went over 2 dollars a gallon my 91.5 Dodge dually was my daily driver. To be fair it's a single cab 8 foot bed not a man van so it's easier to manage
Now a days the dully has the same capacity as a single. But states like Washington will give none dully guys a hard time with fifthwheels.
I'll be getting one of these when I start my hot shot business, except it's the ram 3500 dually chassis without the bed
After one year. Would you buy this truck? How much did you paid a year ago?
saw you recently pulling out of a truckstop in Louisiana..i think you were recording and took a shot of my 2022 ram dually
🤣🤣 too funny! Morning time?
LOVE MY Dually would not be without,
Nice review. Dually’s are where it’s at. I love them but agree with you and don’t want to drive one everyday.
Yup, I’m sure if I go any bigger than my fifth wheel, I will have to consider one or lesser trim level 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork if I had the place to park one I’d buy us a camper. I’d love to take one to like the beach. Basically use it for a hotel lol. But I really don’t have anywhere to park one now. I’ll never say never though. I probably still would stay with a bumper pull but I do have enough capacity for a decent fiver.
You could negotiate storage with the dealer for a year, that’s what we did and it was perfect because every time we had an issue, we were dropping it off and setting an appointment.
You have the same amount of capacity my truck has lol
@@JB_WhoWork interesting. I didn’t know that was an option.
It’s close lol. I didn’t get the factory puck system but I said if I ever do get a fiver I’ll just do the turnover ball system. I do like that goose box you have. My friends B&W companion fifth wheel that’s made for the puck system is definitely a two man job for taking in and out of the bed!
You shouldn't turn off those sensors, you were lucky this time, but you just narrowly avoided damaging your tailgate, and trailer, when you backed up too far before stopping to check your trailer height.
So how much does your Rv weigh? And that dually has to be 10k, so you have a cdl?
I have a srw 3500 and I put a pallet of concrete in it the other day and it did not flinch I think like you said if your gonna work your truck get a 3500 not a 2500 but as far as the dually goes that's a nother level of work and that's when you get bags and a CDL.
I sat a pallet of concrete in my 3500 dually limited with factory rear air bags, just leveled out.
@@chrism2042 right! That's what I'm saying 3500 are the way to go.
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I’m looking to order a 2022 reg cab bighorn 3500 HO from the factory soon. How frequently mileage do the 20/21 trucks go into regen? Does it affect the drivability in anyway?
It will never go in regen mode if you do a lot of Hwy driving. If you plan on doing a lot of idling, city driving, and stop/go, it will regen pretty frequently within a 100 miles or so 👍🏾
If you get one, be sure to get the optional air bags. I have a 2017 Ram Laramie 3500 Dually and it came with the Auto Leveling Air Ride.
Why
@@volkodavwolfcrusherlv7133 No Sag, helps keep the trailer level.
@@w4gle1963 copy, I understand that, but I am wondering if they changed the leaf springs for 2022, we just got a new one and the payload to pur trailer is 3,400 lbs and it drops maybe a inch max 2 in
@@volkodavwolfcrusherlv7133 Air bags come in handy for hitching and unhitching. My 2500 Ram has them and they get used all the time.
We just got a tradesman and we put a wireless airlift suspension in ours. We absolutely love our truck. We put a video of ours up on our channel
I believe the standard output dually with 68RFe can roughly tow around 20k lbs. A definite payload beast but IMO it’s very hard to justify purchasing a dually nowadays with that small amount of towing . I think it’s more of the transmission than the engine. What do you think? I believe that would be a great video for you to explain the differences of the two ram duallys. HO and standard output. Great content again!
Thanks Spengler, I did a video similar to this last year but probably should redo it soon 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork I've seen Dodge Ram trucks hauling trailera.with other Dodge Ram trucks, as many as 4 duallies!😳
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Yes, you are correct. Though, if you get 4:10 gears with the standard output it gets you up in the 22 to 24k range. In my opinion, unless you are getting into a massive 5th wheel, a 20k setup is more than enough, and the standard output with 68RFE has way better throttle response and all around drive ability as a daily driver. My 2019 is not HO, but it hauls our 41 foot Gold Rush with a 15,500lb GVW no problem. We do have almost 5500lbs of cargo capacity, and that is the crucial thing. If you're going to be hauling big loads every day, then go for the max tow 34K, but you need a big 5th wheel to get into the 20k range. My brother just bought a massive Cedar Creek, 42 ft long Champaign full body paint etc. The GVW of it is 18k. I've been driving my truck for almost 3 years no, as a daily driver and camper hauler, and I love it!
I have a 2022 3500 with the standard output. SRW. I have a 4118 payload, and 20118 tow rating. GCWR is 28,300.
No Dually needed.
Is a 3500 srw diesel like the 2022 Ford F-350 srw tremor lariat with a payload capacity of 3,028lbs with 21,500 lbs of gooseneck towing be good for towing 12,700lb fifth wheel with around 2,090lbs of pin weight
It would be close if that is dry/empty weights. My trailer advertised 1980#’s and I’m almost a 1000#’s heavier on the pin at around 14k 👍🏾
I have a 2018 Ram 2500 373 gears and it pulls my camper fine with the engine and gears that I have. I do feel when a semi is at the back of the camper bc it pulls the truck into the semi lane. I have a crew cab and short bed. Camper is 2017 sunset trail grand reserve 33 BD. I wonder if a good sway hitch would help me or if I need a different truck. Great videos I watch them all I am a huge Ram fan.
Depending on how long your rig is, it may benefit from a WDH. Sometimes upgrading the rv suspension helps a bunch so check out the road armor equalizer kit. A Hensley Arrow WDH is expensive but I’ve heard it eliminates sway 👍🏾
🙏 thank you. Much appreciated. I will check into those.
I just bought a ram 3500 HO Cummins with the 4.10 Laramie night edition (also has the air) love it so far. I got plans to buy a big fifth wheel soon
You bought the right truck 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork love it! My wife got me a motorcycle class I’m taking now in joppatowne lol now I’m going back and forth between camper and motorcycle 😂 I’d probably still go with the camper it’s more for the family
@@JB_WhoWork also I bought my first camper from Beckley’s a couple years back, it wasn’t a good educated decision and ending up selling it . I ended up dealing with a gentleman there named “Paul the air force guy” super nice knowledgeable guy
That’s awesome! Nothing wrong with having a toy all to yourself lol! Keep in mind, RV’s are a PITA and require more TLC…
I’ve heard of him but never met him, I always but my rigs from Justin Shanholtzer
@@JB_WhoWork I know especially Where I live now (Garrett county) I would have to store it in a place near me in a nice facility the weather is way to rough. I’ve been checking out the grand designs
The thing that sucks is that in Texas, if your vehicle and 5th wheel combined are over 26,000 lbs, you have to get a Class A Exempt Driver's License, which is another headache. I am having such a hard time trying to find a 5th wheel that I like and a truck that is hefty enough to tow it, without going over the 26,000 lbs. So frustrating. They go by the listed GVWR of both the truck and trailer. It doesn't matter if you never plan on maxing out the cargo carrying capacity of the trailer, they still go by that. Ugh.
I’m purchasing a 21k pound 5th wheel should I go for this truck? I might pull more double towing a pontoon boat that might put it near 25k total. I was wondering if a srw truck exists for pulling 20k+ pounds.
You need a dually may even need to step up into a 450
Hey JB, just picked up my custom ordered 2022 2500 Longhorn Limited Mega cab on Dec 23. Traded in my 2014 2500 Longhorn (great truck). I love my new 2022 (Air ride, MegaCab, Android Auto 12" Uconnect, etc). Definitely a rougher ride from my 3" Carli lifted 2014. I miss that. Other thing better in my 2014 was the Alpine Stereo. The Harmon Kardon Audio does not sound or kick as nice as the Alpine. All my Ford, GM buddy's were jealous of the Alpine stereo. Not anymore with the HarmonKardon. My friend owns an exotic/luxury car dealership and claims the Alpine audio in the 4th Gen trucks is the best factory audio system ever put in a vehicle.
That’s awesome congrats! I agree that the Alpine had better lows/mids but the Harmon is a killer in the highs! I think once you let it break in, the sound will get better 👍🏾
Open the drivers door and look at the sticker that tells you the cargo capacity of your truck. It will say something like "Do not exceed XXXX pounds of cargo". Your going to shocked how low it is. My friend has a 2019 2500 Ram mega cab diesel 4x4 and it has less than 2000 pounds cargo capacity. Pitiful!!!
That's OK, the most cargo I will have is around 2000 lbs. Sled deck, 2 sleds, gear, 2 riders. Going to order a 2023 when I can, rumor is there could be a new cab design, HO engine in all platforms, and 10 speed Allison transmission.
I've seen car haulers using Dodge Ram duallies, 3500 to 5500. I've seen 5500 hauling 7 car trailers!😳 But the trucks definately squat with that kind of weight.
Yup, crazy to see a 5500# car right above the bed of a truck 💪🏾💪🏾
That is what I drive as a everyday truck and there are no draw backs I can park my 4 door long bed dually anywhere you can park a half ton truck
I don't find a Dually any harder to live with than a single.
Carli design suspension is the way to go , much better ride quality .
Is it really because my biggest fear is having an uncomfortable ride as I have to use it as a daily when not towing such as kids drop off, grocery getting renovating, ect..
What did you pay for your truck ?
Would like to talk with you. Great video, should get exact truck anytime, full 5th wheelers here.
What I’ve been told several times, was if your rv is double axle , you can use a 2500. If your rv is a triple axle , you’ll need a dually. Not sure how correct that is, but it makes sense to me.
Not correct at all. Ram 2500 have a payload of 2200lbs. So if you subtract yourself and family and dogs and 5th wheel hitch. You could be left with 1200 to 1500 lbs payload. Thats nothing. And a long bed srw has a payload of 4100 to 4350ish lbs. With my family and gear that left us with 300 lbs lefto over with our 5th wheel
JB can you please do a payload review with the Cyclone 4006 and the 2022 Chevy Silverado 3500 dually High Country and see if the 3500 can carry/pull the Cyclone? Love your channel. So helpful and informative. Keep pushing the videos brother!
Let me see if I can find one, the dually GM trucks are really hard to find 👍🏾
Gorgeous set-up. HO Inline 6 > v8 diesels in terms of durability, reliability and fuel economy.
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What kind of mileage would you get? I get 11.5 loaded with my 21 F350. Most dodge owners I talk to on the road say 7 - 8 mpg? I get 18 unloaded.
If only the dually would fit in my garage with the other cars!
I have a SRW 2019 3500 HO Limited and pull a 15,000 41’ 5th wheel. The truck pulls it beautifully but in the beginning it only squatted about 2.5”. The truck now has 19,000 miles, the majority of those towing, and now the truck squats 3.5” with the 5th wheel. Apparently the springs must flatten out over time. Time for air bags I guess.
Interesting, I may need to measure my truck again 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork let us know what you find out! 3.5” is too much squat.
It depends on what you need. dually or not! people are not dump.
I want a long bed, i just hate the look of a long bed 😅
Did you put a fifth wheel to goose converter?
Yes
Payload should be around 4k so wouldn't think it would squat much
In the process of buying a reflection 150 series 268bh to tow with my 3/4 ton diesel. I did a lot of research and it’s the only fifth wheel I feel safe to tow with it. I also added timbres ses to help with squat and handling to. We are just weekend warriors and do one week long trip on top of those every summer. I asked on some forums and they said most of them are getting pretty light pin weights. This my personal choice and don’t hate on me for it. Good videos though!
I towed a 39 foot 3 axel 16000 lb 4 slidouts with a 03 dually ram 🐏 truck 🚚. Single rear wheel truck 🚚 is good for up to 9000lbs . Anything larger will make the rear end of the truck sway. Even when tires are fully inflated .that's was my experience. Keep up the excellent videos.
Duallys are great at hauling heavy loads, other than that they are a PITA. I live about 100 miles north of you, in the winter your dually better be a 4WD, they wont go anywhere in 2WD on slick roads.
Very true, I drove a 450 on some ice and it was going sideways
@@JB_WhoWork This comment this morning was so ironic. I went to work today and had to pull a contractor out of the yard with the backhoe. He had a F450 with a utility bed on it, and it was 4WD also. They are worthless when not on blacktop. I cant believe some guys plow snow with them.
Are you sure that was an additional leaf? It looked more like a sway bar.
Looks like to help with axle roll
You should step up to a F-450!!!! I've driven duallies for 15+ years and I don't have any problems daily driving them over any HD truck. The dual doesn't make it much worse at all. A long bed is worse than a short in parking lots, the wide track front axle on a 450 makes up for that, but the duals fit just about everywhere and I live it the DC/Baltimore area. I was towing a open trailer a couple weeks ago with a Ram 3500 SRW and it took so much more attention than a bigger enclosed with any of the DRW trucks I've had. If you're going to tow long distance much at all and can swing it get a dually!!!
Good stuff, I do agree there is definitely some huge advantages to a dually if you plan to tow long distance 👍🏾
My wife just turns her nose up and says she wouldn't drive a dually. Seems like a good reason to buy one to me, Lol!
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Jb ,broski,...I should do a job montage of buy a dually,don't buy a dually..ok I'm gonna let you explain brother
🤣🤣🤣! My bad on the clown face 😅
Bruh, my 100 lbs japanese wife drives a 2023 3500 ho dually like its nothing lol it aint that serious yo
Yea this kinda like saying I'm going to the club. And no I'm not taking rubbers. If ya going to tow alot get dually if you just trying to look cool save the bs get a yota
The people say don't buy a dually is the people don't have money to buy a dually 😊😊😊😊
Never trust someone with no experience.
I wish the state of PA and other states (Texas, NC, etc...) didn't use the GVWR of the truck and trailer to determine if you need a non commercial class A license. For example on your spreadsheet you showed the trucks GVWR as 14000 pounds, and your trailers GVWR as 13980 pounds. The total of those two 27980. That puts you over the 26000 pound mark. So if you were to register this truck and trailer in PA, you would need a class A non commercial license to drive it legally. I have talked to PA State Police and the have said if you were stopped in PA and you are a resident of PA you wouldn't like the fine you would get. PA has class A, and B license non commercial and the class A and B commercial license. They don't even have to weigh your truck and trailer. They just have to look at both registrations and if the GVWR of each add up over 26000, and you don't have a non commercial Class A, your are ticketed.
NC is the same except with a RV. I talked to the NC highway patrol prior to towing my Mother-in-laws camper, he said I could tow the fifth wheel with the 16K registration I had on the truck at the time with no issues. They are not allowed to write tickets on combined GVWR for truck and RV. But truck and any other trailer, they are all over it. I live at the NC coast, see 1/2 and 3/4 ton trucks towing large campers all of the time, clearly overloaded and fighting to keep them on the road.
Great info 👍🏾
@@chrism2042 in PA there is no difference between a RV or any other trailer. I know a few years back a large wood chipper came loose and killed 3 people. I have even seen local police using portable scales. PA has weight class stickers on trucks. If you are pulled over and you are towing anything and the GCVW is more than what your weight sticker states, you will be fined for being overweight. I have a weight class 8 on my truck. Cost me $545 a year to register my Ram 3500. But, I don't have to worry about being stopped for being overweight. Lol
@@RAM-on8xb - In NC, our registration states the weight. I keep mine at 26k on Ram 3500 which still limits me to a 12k trailer without commercial license and increasing tag weight.
The GCVW should be considered on RV's here also. I asked the state trooper about seeing so many small trucks towing campers where the truck is obviously overloaded, he said they see it all of the time but their hands are tied due to State laws, unless they see something that is very unsafe. Big thing around here this past summer was seeing mid-size SUV's and Jeep gladiators towing very large campers, truck extremely overloaded with hitch 6" off the road.
You are correct, I'm from PA. I dug deep to find an someone that would answer that exact question of how PA polices weights on small trucks. I was told by DMV right now I won't be weighed. But that is only one accident away from being changed. In PA if you are towing an empty trailer with a GVWR over what your truck is rated for, you are illegal even if it is legal while the trailer is empty. They won't even weigh you. It's a political money maker. The last few years they have been hitting farmers and livestock trailers hard.
Is that granite crystal metallic?
Billet Silver
@@JB_WhoWork it looks good , I ended up with granite , selection is next to none and I pick it up next week, die hard ford guy here but my fords haven’t impressed me in the last few years.
That’s awesome, congrats! They are all great trucks, I commend you for trying something different 👍🏾
My 2020 Ram 3500 has 7500lbs of payload. Your's probably is somewhere about the same. You'll need a lot more weight to make that thing really squat
Oh wow, you must have a stripper down gasser lol! This truck had around 5200#’s
Let some air out outer tires 70 psi not
85 / inner wheels 60 psi / softer ride.
There is so many factors involved in choosing the right truck. I had a bad ass 2018 ram dually with the 3.73 gearing. It was great on my first 5thwheel, but I upgraded my trailer to a 25000 lb toyhauler and I had to get a bigger truck with different gearing.
As far as suspension I ordered my truck with NO factory auto bags. They don't work great with really heavy loads. I cut all the suspension off and installed kelderman 4link air suspension. Expensive, but worth every penny.
Long trailers, your blind spot monitoring is deactivated, it only works on shorter trailers.
Also, it's WAY CHEAPER, to buy a used semi rig and remove the commercial hitch and install a haulerbed and 5thwheel hitch. I almost went that route but I Ultimately decided to stick with the Ram.
If Ford or Chevy had the Cummins there would be no Ram.
Did you ever mention fuel mileage? This set-up with bankrupt a family.
You should use a gas dually and compare to diesel.
Payload
I found a gas dually but it was presold.. probably looking at 1200#’s of payload 👍🏾
Word to the wise those goose neck adapters are the worst thing you can put on your fifth wheel camper your frame will crack I don’t care what recess I don’t care what Lippert says fifth wheel campers are not designed to be towed like that it’s a totally different stress level that I put on the camper I guarantee you your frame is cracked in a few spots
Who Work???
RAM 💪🏾💪🏾
Makes me want one just because you say not to buy one
Just admit you didnt know what you were talking about when you said don't buy a dually. The excuses are pathetic.
I've driven duallies for 20 years. It no problem except for morons. The benefits far outweigh the bad.
That's 403/8 btw not 9/16 lmao
It was 9/16, it was at a bad angle
Maybe you should read the book
A 250 will pull that trailer just fine this guy is a newbie
You didn't understand what you meant lol