Avoid My Mistakes! Buyer's Guide for RAM 3500 Ultimate Special Order Fifth Wheel Towing Truck
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
- If I had known what I know today in 2022 about trucks back 10 years ago, then I probably would have owned 2-3 fewer trucks over the last decade and saved myself a lot of time and $$$! Today I'm going to share the inside scoop on a custom/special order 2021 RAM 3500 1 ton dually that I spec'd to be the ultimate fifth wheel towing truck out there. With a max payload just north of 5,000 lbs and a max towing capacity of just over 34,000 lbs, this RAM 3500 is no slouch. It is a rare build with a combination of unique options that aren't typically found in the same package. From the exterior's Granite Crystal Metallic paint job featuring the Night Edition package (blacked out) to the interior's rare bench seat configuration and 8.4-inch Uconnect (vs more popular 12-inch) to the business end's high output in-line 6 cylinder Cummins 6.7L diesel engine with air suspension...this truck is truly one of a kind and purpose built to be the ultimate fifth wheel towing truck. I painstakingly mulled over the configuration and options for months till I settled on this unique build presented in today's video. I've owned it almost a year now, and I have absolutely no regrets whatsoever on it!
At the end of the video I'll share what I've learned over the last decade by recommending which type of truck you should buy depending on what type of weight you plan to tow. I'll cover everything from 1/2 ton gasser trucks to 3/4 ton SRW trucks to 1 ton diesel DRW trucks, applying to all makes and models from Ford, GM, Chevrolet, and RAM. My hope is these tips will save you money if you're looking to buy or order a new 2022 truck, or even purchase a secondhand 2021 model year or older. Yet, in the end it is all just my own personal opinions based on my experiences. Let me know if you agree or disagree with my recommendations in the comments below.
00:00 Intro
02:03 Window Sticker
19:49 Options I Skipped
23:17 Mistakes I Made
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1. The SO engine is not a ZF, it’s a RAM brand transmission. 2. The air suspension is not manual, you can’t let all of the air out. It has several settings, for normal ride, level ride, and lowering to hook up a trailer. 3. Cummins do not have glow plugs. They have a heated intake and use the exhaust brake for additional warm up. 4. The larger screen can be split for dual applications. Love the truck. I have the same in pearl white.
We found the detailed critic everyone loves to hate lol! Don’t worry, I know because I’m normally “that guy”. I noticed he didn’t mention the exhaust brake, I suppose because they’re standard equipment on all new diesel trucks but any conversation on towing warrants discussing exhaust brakes, esp. if comparing gas trucks.
You’re 100% correct on Cummins using grid heaters instead of glow plugs and I’m betting you know, but some readers may misunderstand, the exhaust brake is not a cold starting aid as pre-heaters and ether injection systems are. Once the engine has started and is running then the exhaust brake can be used to help the engine reach operating temperature faster.
@@preachers4135 the exhaust brake is definitely nice to warm the engine up faster but I'm pretty my neighbors hate me on those cold mornings. My truck is deleted with a 4 inch straight pipe.
Wow cool information Jeff next time keep it to yourself
It's not a zf trans. Its aisin (Toyota) zf is the trans in the ram 1500s
@@vincentfortinmunoz3150?
I own a 2021 ram 3500 limited drw night edition with the HO Cummins. I love this truck. It feels like it has no limits on what it can tow. Congrats on the new rig.
Thank you! Love mine too.
Everything has limits and that little truck can find it really quick that’s just a camper pulling truck or maybe some light weight hotshot loads but I got to say they have raised the weight from when I owned mine I have seen some with 550 pulling some weight with them tho
What Gear? What are you getting mpg when driving empty? Does mpg improve as the engine and trans breaks in?
wow this guy just nailed it. he is absolutely correct on every thing he says.
As a truck driver hearing you complain about five hours to drive is stressing and tiring. it makes me laugh since I drive upto 11 hrs a day. as well as the 50 gallons of diesel fuel. I carry 300 gallons of fuel, haha. but I know for your typical Joe on the street who has never towed before. the information you speak of is very amusing and new and it's scary to them. what I like about your videos, is you take your time to explain everything. The way you ordered your truck should be the industry standard in today's world.
Wow, and I thought 8 hrs was a lot for a single day! 300 gallons is huge! Thanks for watching.
Our tow rig is a 2008 lariat f350 manual transmission with a 24v cummins swapped into it, I've got 84 gallons of on board fuel and towing our travel trailer I can get about 1100-1200 miles before needing fuel, I love all the gadgets the new trucks have but I'm extremely happy with this old truck. She's a beast!
Wow! That is so cool! Is that pre-emissions/no DEF too?
@@AdventureRocks the original engine was a 6.4 powerstroke which had the egr/dpf systems, but no DEF. The current engine is out of a 1999 dodge ram that I've added 100hp injectors, headstuds, built the turbo with a wicked wheel and tuned the engine. It runs beautifully. If I had to guess it's probably 400-450 hp. So now I have no emissions to worry about, just get in and cruise!
@@farmingforfun9534 very nice!
Way more informative than my last dealership visit. Thank you
😂 you ain’t lying 😢
Built my rig September of 21 was told it would be ready April of 22. Came in the first week of January freaked a lil but was a blessing got the dealer to give so much on my 17 srw ram that I'm in good. All to start my hotshot bussiness so far love the truck but do have simple things I will be upping on next years truck
This was such great info. I wish I had this info 2 years ago. Live and learn.
Very nice truck! I agree with your reasoning and options you chose. Hope it gives you and your family many miles and good memories.
Thank you!
you did a awesome job on this video, I just got a 3500 limited, and your video has explained a lot of functions for me. Thanks..
Thank you. Glad to hear it. I hope all goes smoothly on your delivery with the new truck. I love the grill on the limited. Really sharp.
One of the greatest voices I've seen.
Very interested & great information
Great Job
Thank you!
Definitely you helped me narrow downs some options. Tyvm
Nice rig. My 2018 3500 and I also went 40/20/40 special order as well. One option that is extremely rare. Many new awesome options.
We did a factory build on our 2019 3500hd and also our 2021 AT4 hd. Definitely recommend doing this to get every option out want. We always spec the dual alternators, extra safety stuff always, and did high idle In the 2019 but it can’t be used on remote start for faster warmup so it’s useless. Nice work
Very helpful video, thanks for sharing!!
Great Video!
Fantastic overview (especially the b roll)!
Been a dealer for 30 years and i have ordered thousands of Rams...you nailed it on the 40/20/40 seats which are only available in the Laramie, once you go to Long Horn or Limited you have to get the console and anyone who is taller than 6 feet will love the extra leg room instead of banging your knee on the console. The black out edition is a rip off for just black wheels and a black grill. The factory mopar floor liners are way, way, way nicer than the husky's or the weathertechs - bad call there. The Alpine sound is good but the Harmon Kardon is worth every penny of the extra cost. All and all a very nice build. Congrats
Agree!
Wow. Excellent video. You helped me with my special order.
Glad to help. Thank you!
Beautiful rig man! Good choice. Aisin is an awesome transmission.
Really good information Thank you!!
Thank you!
Great video! My wife and I love watching your video's!!
Thank you!
Yes Yes Yes! Love it!
The overlapping numbers at the end of the video regarding truck-trailer weight combos is a good way of looking at matchups. If you’re camping in the mountains frequently, then a 7,000 lb travel trailer will do really nicely paired with a diesel; in contrast, if you do a lot of flatlands camping you can totally get away with a gasser up 12,000 lbs without many issues.
People like hard cutoffs and thresholds but the reality is: towing solutions are a weird mashup of personal preferences and the legal payload maximums set for a given truck. That feels unsatisfactory, but it’s a lot like other situations: you can “get away with” whatever your risk (comfortability) tolerance is, with the caveat that certain situations will require certain solutions (e.g., mega heavy campers need DRW TVs).
Anyways, nice video and gorgeous truck. That paint color / blackout combination is really lovely.
Thank you! 100% agree!
You make more sense than all of the other reviews on these types of trucks combined. Great job. 👍👍👍
Thank you, very much!
By the way you now have a new subscriber. 👍
@@MangoMike316 Thank you! Appreciate that!
Great video. I really liked the fact you added your recommendations on truck size/engine combo. People forget how important those payload numbers are as well. Whenever I ask someone about their payload numbers, they always say "It'll tow....".
Thank you!
The fact is they all will tow. But will it stop and not roast the brakes off doing so. I have towed super heavy with a 2500 ram 5.9 49k verified by a scale smart likely not doable very much so. And I have driven commercial trucks for a very long time so I do know how to do so safely regaurdless of the numbers. Just always keep in mind it may towit fine. But can it stop that load. Most modern trailer brake system take into account some overstretch. On the brakes but not near as much as you need for towing this heavy. Even in a semi the reason there are three or four units towing it's not because of the weight it to counter the braking needed to stop plus control the load. Have fun all mostly be safe.
Good info for Beginners for shure and a refresher for old timers! My 2015 HO 6.7 Laramie Limited Haules the mail in luxury!
We were pretty Lucky enough that my wife found the truck I wanted was in town at local dealer. They accepted 3 vehicles in trade. My wifes 2011 Hemi Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland, My 2000 5.9 Cummins 6spd 4x4 quad cab, and the passed mother in laws 2006 Pt Cruiser in trade. WE made the deal then put down our employer discount at the last minute! pissed the off! got a 95K Truck paid at delivery!
I can tell you though! Never get the Sunroof, I have had to seal it off! Otherwise this one beast of a truck! 4.10 gears limited slip "seems Posi" , Aisin 6speed, 4x4, it will spin the tires with my 5th wheel or 36' enclosed trailer with 69 383 barracuda inside!
Great build great review🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Rear air bags option on my 2016 limited was worth every penny. I have overloaded and absolutely abused it for almost 6 years never failed.
Glad to hear it!
Absolutely appreciate your video and knowledge! Thanks
Thank you
Just bought one new! Love it
Great info, I'll be in the market for a work/personal heavy duty truck here shortly, and my cousin bought one of these a few months ago, but her price was 60k, not as many option packages as this truck but enough to satisfy, so yeah this was a great break down and very detailed and informative, thanks👍🏾
Thank you. Hope the new purchase goes smoothly.
Nice job!! I agree with all your choices! Thanks for sharing your information!
Thank you, appreciate the feedback
Thank you for you input! That helps me out tremendously in my decision making down the road. Adrian
Thank you! Glad to help!
Thank you, great video this helped me quite a bit because I am currently looking at upgrading from my f-150 to a 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck so I can buy my first RV and your take on a 3/4 ton gasser helped clarify some things.
Thank you. Glad to help! Here's another perspective on the 3/4 gasser + fifth wheel in case you haven't seen it:
czcams.com/video/NnxSGeYULmA/video.html
I’m hearing good feedback from owners of the new Ford 7.3L gas engine, a lot of them previous diesel owners / operators. Comparing cost of ownership factoring in initial purchase being more for a diesel, regular maintenance is more and now the very expensive emissions system failures it makes a lot of sense to consider a properly set up gas truck. Think of it in terms of dollar / mile over the life of the truck and how you will use the truck, ie tow 12,000lbs 30% of the time vs 14,000lbs 90% of the time including terrain- flat land vs mountains etc.
At work we use a mix of chassis for heavy industrial mobile mechanic and welding applications. We have a few F-250s & F-350s but mostly F-550s and Peterbuilt. One colleague recently went from a Chevy 3500 6.0 gas truck to a F-450 7.3 and is happy with it. I’m also hearing the possibility of us trying some F-600s since it’s so easy for us to overload a 550 with only 19,500 lbs GVWR.
Doing a little soul searching after my Ford F350 needs to have engine work done... again. Good content. I appreciate it!
Thank you, hope it all works out.
Yep! Been there, done that! My first trailer was maxing out the payload capacity of my 1 ton SRW (diesel) with a pin weight of 3600#. I've since upgraded the truck (DRW)....and got a bigger trailer. Your message is so important and I see a lot of 3/4 ton diesels at campgrounds pulling big and heavy. Know your payload capacity and keep it safe.
I see people All the time with dangerous setups lifted 1/2 ton pulling 15k + units they think all the mods made it very?! Some flying past me doing 70-90 mph down the highway? If people don't start caring or learning how this all works more laws are sure to come,. There's Times you may have to move something a short distance a few miles with a underated truck I've used my GMC Yukon to move an old 38' Gulfstream (10000 max 8800 Dry) 5-6 miles to a new RV park because my 3/4 was in the shop, but I had a good brake controller and the Yukon was In perfect condition. Kept it under 40 mph.
I see it all the time, too. For RVs, it doesn’t help that all the common RV brands have been pushing “half-ton towable!” at dealers, and naming a bunch if their units “ultra lite” (which just means they put even less quality and effort into building it) for the last decade. But I’d have to say that I see the weight mismatches most often with 3/4-ton trucks, and nearly always the diesel ones. Crew cab mid-options 3/4-ton with a family of 4 and a packed 42’ 3-axle toy hauler…yeeaaahh. I think a lot of those owners assume that as long as they have the diesel, they’re able to do as much as any truck that isn’t a dually, damn the GVWR. The law won’t allow them that if they uh, mess up en route and cause a serious accident. I’ve even seen some egregious overloads of full-option 1-ton SRWs. As in, “Aw no, my rig can totally handle my brand new 45’ DRV!”
Your truck is very close to what I ordered. I’m still waiting to get mine, but I love your truck! I like to hear why people optioned things and why they didn’t. Nice video!
Thank you! It'll be worth waiting for. Hopefully you'll get it sooner than later.
No wonder ram won truck of the year 3 years in a row. They are killing the competition with trucks like this
The only thing they're killing is their dealerships techs with the overwhelming amounts of warranty claims these rolling dumpsters produce.
Great truck! I have the same one except a 2020, Delmonico, and went with the dual 220 amp. Good call on the steps which also adds some protection for the cab. I added an aftermarket bumper with winch and lights so the added amps for me is a plus. I don’t go off roading but do drive on dirt/mud with loads. In fact, I was towing with a load of DG, got stuck and destroyed my steel cable and snatch block. So now switched to synthetic everything. Agreed on the smaller screen, HO, 4.10, drw, 50 GAL!, except color. Travel safely!
Very nice. That red color is gorgeous!
Great info thanks
Ordered my 1Ton dually in January. Still waiting! Actually I’m going to wait a few more months. Ram is the way to go! I didn’t order the backup mirror, now I wish I had. Did order the big screen and the retractable steps. Love the color you ordered, same as mine. Thanks for the tips, you earned a follower. 🙂
Thank you! It'll be worth the wait.
What an absolute BEAST. This truck costs more than my first HOME! 40/20/40 front seat is an AWESOME feature.
Thank you!
I have a 2019 Ram 2500, 3/4 ton Gas engine. My trailer is a 5th wheel, 11,900 pound. I love my truck....God-bless. Keep up the great work 👍
Great combo!
This is 💯 my dream truck! All the way down to the bench seat up front. I HATE trying to figure out who’s drink is who’s with the popular 2 cup holders over by the passenger side in the built in consoles! I have a lot of mobility issues, with most of my spine “welded” together, so the more cameras and blind spot mirrors, the better! Awesome truck, and awesome video explaining everything!
I bought a 2019 Ram 3500 HO Limited with SRW. I almost screwed up and bought a 2500 Limited, in fact I had the deal done and was just waiting for the dealership to clear a recall before I could take delivery, when I realized the payload was just over 1800 lbs! That would have been a serious mistake since my new 5th wheel toy hauler has a 2800 lb pin weight! The Ram 2500 with the coil springs really has limited payload, especially in the diesel configuration. Even though the 3500 is still maxed out on payload with tge 41’ trailer and other cargo, the HO Ram tows it like a dream!
Very nice! Glad to hear it.
Get involved in a serious accident with that 2500 and a huge 5th wheel and see what kind of crap you fell into. Pay attention to the manufacturers gvwr on these trucks. If not, you could find yourself in a world of S#%$!!
Gorgeous looking truck
Thank you, very blessed.
Beautiful truck. I pull my 38 foot Jayco Eagle 317RLOK with my 21 Ford F-350 dually longbed, 6.7L Powerstroke. Best towing vehicle I have ever owned. It has a 48 gallon fuel tank. The cargo capacity is 5,660 and I added heavy duty air bags and AMP Research electric steps. I like the steps to disappear when I drive. I have the trailer backing system, but I don’t use it. I’ve never driven the Ram dually, but I’ve heard the engine brake works great.
Very nice!
Great informative video ! I own a 2019, 3500 limited srw short box with the Ho motor and the ainsi transmission and 4.10 rear diff. I haul a 2021 Pinnacle 32rlts with ease. Really enjoying the vehicle!
Nice!
Wow you did an awesome job and your homework I want a truck exactly like yours good job brother
Thank you, appreciate that. Hope your build goes smoothly.
Thank you very, very much! 👍 😁 🍀
Beautiful truck !
Great info!
Perfect truck!
Great info. Beautiful truck.
Thank you!
thank you excellent review
Thank you
Wholeheartedly agree with your comment about diesel 3/4.
I have 2021 ram Laramie dually, night edition as well. Almost the same exact truck. Was also the first vehicle I ordered with the options I wanted and didn’t want. Definitely the way to go! I absolutely love it! Came from a 2003 Ram 3500 SRW thar had s little work done to it. Towing my toy hauler loaded down is so much nicer and less stress!
Thank you. 100% agree!
Very helpful video
Awesome rig! 👌 I am with you on the jump seats and it is so hard to find that configuration on a high trim truck in all makes but definitely prefer with friends and family tagging along.
Thank you!
I love the utility of the extra seat, but I need something to rest my leg on. Especially on a long road trip. That right leg is gonna be tired.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you get the bench seat option your rear AC vents are now on the ground as opposed to higher up on the back side of the console that comes with the bucket seat. That's not good if you have gear back there which would cover them up. Any comments?
@@chris...2468 Only a couple inches lower, but still elevated off ground. The outlets are on the ground. Plus vents are directional so can aim where needed. No issues, at least for me hauling kiddos.
Gorgeous truck!
Auto air is a must. I love it on my truck.
I wish I had known all this a year ago! I bought a 2020 2500 with the Diesel engine thinking it could tow anything I would ever throw at it. What an Achilles heel with the payload! Now that I am lookin at trailers for road trips I’m pretty much limited to 10,000 lbs or lower bumper pull trailers. I do love the smooth ride of the coil springs but the limitations suck.
I made same mistake. I agree the coils on the 2500 are probably best ride out there.
Very good advice , I've made those mistakes not knowing and it only took me 61 years lol ..I love your Ram one ton . I had one in 2000 but now I'm driving a 1500 Ram 5.7 off road package 📦😎 .. my travel trailer is only a 25 footer and dry weight is 4,195 .
Very nice! :) Thank you!
Hello Sir. Excellent Video and very detailed. I appreciate you taking the time to explain your recommendation as I am considering a fifth wheel so wasnt sure if I should keep my megacab.. I like your reasoning on the 8ft bed. Over all excellent job
Thank you!
Very useful info
I thought I was the only one buying all the bench seat trucks lol. The sole reason it takes me so long to find the perfect truck
you did a great job picking out your truck......
The blackout & grey combo is sharp
Beautiful rig! I too have spent months tinkering with the build sheet and have an appointment today to seal the order for a 2022 Ram 3500 SRW Mega cab 4x4 Laramie 2 Night edition with the bench seat (I have 4 grandkids that camp and ride ATV's), 8.4" Uconnect NAV, standard output 6.7l w/5th wheel prep/bed group and camera's out the wazoo with the Safety Group B. I had come to the exact same conclusions about what I need to tow a 13,000lb GVWR toy hauler trailer and glad to see that my thought process mirrors about 98% of what you chose. BTW: Went with the standard output b/c I only tow occasionally in the summer and the H/O w/Aisin tranny is more geared towards the really heavy stuff with more road time trailering and from what my research garnered...the 68RFE is smoother for daily driving.
Nice! I hope your new build goes smoothly.
Great job 👏 👍 👌
Thank you!
Agree totally about special ordering. I took delivery of my 22 Ram 2500 in December. This was my 2nd time doing it.Thanks for the video.
How long did it take after ordering?
I ordered it September 29th and drove it home December 23rd
@Jtwes thats pretty good honestly
I just posted a video on a 2015 I ordered and it was 5 weeks from ordering to driving it home.
Man I love your dully awesome truck 💪🏾
Thank you!
Gorgeous rig and nice breakdown. I factory ordered my Ram 1500 and got it exactly to my spec. Worth the wait. One thing to note is with Apple car play it seems they figured out how to use the entire screen. At least in my ‘22 it is.
Thank you. Yes, it sems in the 22's with Uconnect 5 they finally have full screen for Apple CarPlay. Still waiting on Android Auto though, at least that's what I hear so far. Glad they got it full screen for Car Play finally.
Very nice truck there. I've got a Ram 3500HD/dually/crew/long bed but a "Tradesman" edition I HAD TO buy while on the road while towing a 5th wheel on our move out of state when my 11 single rear wheel same truck blew a head gasket and more on the move with Dodge quoting me $26K to repair so I picked up this 2014 at a local "hole in the wall" dealer.
Good truck. It was built with a "couple" options when new. The Aisen trans is a relief oppose to the disposable 68RE that tends to fault at around 150,k miles.
I did the Delete on it recently after "someone" I live with here didn't think about it NOT being her Tundra and put around 23gallons of 87octane in the tank that pretty well took out the exhaust system, quoted at $12,000 PARTS ONLY to repair BUT the DEF was faulting as well!
Delete was a good option for me at this time! (Yeah, it makes a "bit of " a difference in a "few" things... Mileage is up 3-10MPG depending on my foot, the power increase is pretty extreme as well. Which keeps my foot from behaving. I have no clue what the increase is on power. I got the "tow" program for the AutoCal tune. I know there's a "sport/race" (maybe not those words exactly) that makes these rear tires smoke for quite a while but this tow tune doesn't exactly NOT spin them quite easily. She's obnoxiously loud now though while full throttle.
Like I mentioned to Darrin here and his Allison trans.... Wouldn't 'it be a nice match to have that Allison with the Cummins... I know it's possible though quite pricey to do. I would like to see my Rs less than the 2000rpm at 72MPG is all. Are you pullling around that same in your newer truck?
Okay... take this mic away from me. Have great adventures and be safe gentlemen.
Very nice! I bet your truck sounds pretty nice too! The Cummins + 10sp Allison could be a killer combo!
Great video. Super helpful since I will be needing to upgrade my 2020 Ram 3500 SRW Gas to a dually. We pick up our new 5th wheel next week and it’s 15k dry. One thing you didn’t point out is that if you select the mega cab, not only do you have to have the short bed but you also can’t add the 50 gallon fuel tank. That’s a huge negative. I look forward to more videos and would love to see one on the factory air leveling.
Thank you! Great point. I completely forgot about the lack of 50 gal on the Mega Cab. 100% agree.
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Thanks for creating this! I have a '12 2500 Laramie Cummins now and researching which options I want for the 3500 I will eventually order which will be very similar to yours, except with chrome😁 My 12 is great but I now have a lite weight fifth wheel that is probably a little heavier than the truck is rated for.
Thank you, glad to hear! I went back and forth on the chrome vs black and still do almost a year later. Can't go wrong with either. Definitely worth ordering to get it just the way you want it.
Good review!
Thank you
@@AdventureRocks in England the roads are too small to drive these types of trucks. Would love one nonetheless. I enjoyed the fact you highlighted the pros and cons in relation to your requirements. Thanks
Cool vid
Man you and & I think the exact same! Perfect build. Only thing I would change on my order would be running boards to length to rear tires that way you you got a step for front of bed reaching in getting tie downs etc in front of bed. Olive green for truck color. Other than that you hit the head of the nail with this purchase. Perfect truck.
Thank you! Great tip!
I purchased a 22 Ram 3500 SRW special ordered. I got it with the Lane Assist/Adaptive Cruise Control package. Lane assist is really nice to have and the ACC allows for hypermiling behind semis, so will pay for itself over time. 8-10mph while towing my 14-15k 5th wheel and 15-17mpg while following a semi.
I cannot imagine driving a DRW and have not encountered any of the issues I have seen mentioned about SRW from people who swear by DRW. I'm no speed demon though. Maybe those comments about SRWs cornering are from people driving around turns way too fast.
I'd only go DRW if I needed the extra payload, which I do not with my Grand Design 310GK.
Did the build online almost exact same specs...came out to 91K for a 2022. Yikes! Absolutely love it in the Delmonico Red. Beautiful truck.
Wow, that's crazy how much higher it is now. Love that Delmonico red... It was on my short list.
I went from a 2007 3/4 Mega cab gasser to a 2021 3/4 tradesman gassr I have a lot more payload and towing capacity over the mega. My tradesman has 3200 payload an 14.900 towing capacity. I did get tow technology and snow prep and 5th wheel prep. The front camera is awesome when plow snow with those driveway markers sticks . Lol
I was surprised with the 6.4 gas mileage 17 mpg empty and 12mpg towing a 7400 rv. The mega 5.7 I got 14 empty and 8 pulling the same rv.
Great video, your right lot of people only look at the luxury items and not what they need to haul or tow.
Thank you. I love your 3/4 gasser...such a versatile truck with so much capability!
I agree with your opinion on 3/4ton diesels. Depending on your options, it makes your payload so low that you're basically driving a glorified half ton. Heck, on forums I've even seen quite a few people say that 1. If you're doing diesel, go straight to the 1-ton. And 2. Manufacturers almost might as well get rid of the 3/4-ton diesel option.
100% agree. Great points.
Absolutely. Just get a 1-ton SRW for medium trailers, and a dually 1-ton for anything over 13k lbs.
IMO the brands should engineer 3/4-tons to guarantee a payload amount appreciably above a base half-ton’s max, WHILE HAVING lots of options. Of course, that would mean GVWRs skyrocket, but otherwise a fully loaded 3/4-ton diesel is for looks and bragging rights. It’s function is neutered by the engine unless the goal is to do an average half-ton’s payload with twice the confidence. But 3/4-ton diesels weigh the same as 1-ton diesels, basically, so you don’t even get a partial MPG benefit.
@@PaulAngileri great points!
Great video beutiful truck
I recently traded a 2018 2500 ram with the Cummins for a 22 ram 2500 with the 6.4 hemi I only tow a 9000 lb travel trailer and towing through the mountains of north ga I surprisingly didn’t miss the diesel the gas engine with the new 8 speed transmission did a fantastic job and he is absolutely correct my payload with the gas engine is 1500lbs more than the old truck! I was surprised when I looked at the numbers. Now like I said my travel trailer is only 9000lbs. Thanks for the video and nice truck!
Thank you! 100% agree!
You are right with 1 ton diesels towing instead of 3/4 ton, but where the 3/4 ton diesels rule is in overlanding. They have coils in the rear and are better off road. I have a 18 ram dually and went with high output, asian trans, 4:10 gears. I pull 29 k everyday.
Equipped about perfect for my taste.
That is one beautiful truck, I love the rams I bought a 2020 3500 CCLB Laramie with the SO engine, I really didn't have anything for me to get a dually but I came close on getting one, I have the Dometic Red in the Night Edition I love it. I might think about getting one for my next truck but with our 5th wheel is only about 13,000lbs, buy anyway nice info.
Thank you. I love that red color you've got! I bet it's a sharp looking truck!
Totally agree 👍
Sweet truck.
It's funny how one year, you can order a truck if you want to. To this year, you HAVE TO order your truck if you want one at all! Very nice rig. I really like the blackouts on the lights and grill. But I am also looking at the dually, and I'm not sure if I like the blackout on the dually wheels. I am looking at the same truck as yours, options wise. I'm still not sure if I'm going F350 or Ram 3500. However, for my needs (17.5k max), I am going to option the standard output 6.7l. It will save some money, and still have the same HP and Torque rating as the 4500 series trucks. That's more than adequate for me. Again, georgious truck and good information. Nice video.
Thank you! Hope your new purchase goes smoothly. It's amazing how far the capabilities of these trucks have evolved over the last few years. They all have so much to offer.
A 3/4 ton diesel while serverly lacking payload does have the same towing capability as a 1 ton diesel. The 3/4 ton is a bit more comfortable on the roads with out any weight in it. Perhaps that along with dealer ignorance is why so many 3/4 ton diesels were on lots. If you spend a few years traveling, it is amazing how many 3/4 ton pickups you see pulling behemoth sized fifth-wheel RVs.
When I was looking for a tow vehicle for a new fifth wheel, Montana 3790RD, I couldn't find a 1 ton on a dealer's lot. It worked out well, like you, I had the opperturinity to get the vehicle configured how I wanted it. I stayed with a single rear wheel axle and a standard output Cummins. I'm pushing my payload numbers but the truck handles perfectly. I also opted for the fifth-wheel prep group and the rear air leveling system, that in itself make RAM the best solution for fifth-wheel pulling. I highly advise the SRW if you plan on traveling to many popular sight seeing venues, the SRW fits easier in these parking areas and down narrow roads to the area of interest.
Good points. The towing capacity is related to payload though, so ultimately the 3/4 ton ends up in reality having less functional towing capacity compared to 1 ton SRW. That's something dealers and folks often neglect to discuss. Oftentimes a 3/4 ton will advertise a towing capacity of 20K, but a payload of only 2.2K. A typical fifth wheel of 16K lbs will have a pin weight of 3.2K, so in reality that same 3/4 ton really is limited to closer to 10K towing a fifth wheel with a pin weight of 2K. Plus, we often forget to add in weight of passengers, cargo, etc. A lot of folks point to suspension being the biggest difference between 3/4 ton and 1 ton SRW, but in the end suspension does impact ride, handling, and safety while towing. Plus, not to mention GVWR is different between the two. I only wish I had known all that years ago as it would have saved me a lot of $$.
@@AdventureRocks The 3/4 ton, I think, is more purpose built for towing bumper pulls. For example, take a 16 foot dump that typically has a 12K GVWR, that would put about 1,000 or so pounds of payload on the tow vehicle. Since bumper pulls transfer typically around 7 to 12 percent compared to the 20 to 30 percent of a gooseneck or fifth-wheel, the 3/4 ton fits in here. Adding a weight distribution hitch allows higher trailer GVWR without increasing the payload on the tow vehicle so having the additional tow capacity of a 3/4 ton diesel comes in handy.
The real problem are salespeople at both vehicle dealerships and RV dealerships lack any knowledge or accountability of payload and tow capacities. I remember my RV dealer asking me what kind of vehicle I had, I told him a RAM 3500 Cummins. He said, you can tow anything I got on the lot. Well, that was a far from true statement. I'm glad I took the time and effort to research this topic and I'm thankful folks like you put up these videos.
@@InLineDiesel6 100% agree. All good points.
I like your video man it’s pretty cool I have the 21 sports package, really good truck not sure how many miles you have on it or plan on putting on it or use mine for my transport business. Word of advice at 60,000 miles get your EGR cleaned out and your EGR cooler, transmission at 70,000 rear differential and do not use anything unless Mopar I have gone a D rated mode because of clogged fuel filters. Oh, and also only number two diesel don’t use biodiesel.
Great video.
One little nit, RAM uses a grid heater, not glow plugs.
Also, as you're likely aware since you made the video, the 2022+ trucks can be had with a single digital rear view camera that shows in the DRVM. 2021 trucks can be DIY retrofitted with the 2022 DRVM and wiring and camera. Unfortunately, the pre 21 truck BCM's will not support the DRVM.
The bench seat is good for dogs and girlfriends. I'm a big fan! ;)
I've wanted a new truck but since they don't offer it in a manual I will stick with my 08 2500 with dual disk clutch. I've personally pulled 15k no issue at all. 6th gear up a 6% grade on tow tune
Not sure if anyone else said this, I love my rear view camera. It shows up on the rear view mirror and is constant. I have a furrion as well, totally different and much better camera view overall.
If you get the 12" screen, there is a Nav option that WILL fill all 12" of the screen. It requires UCoonect5 with Nav but it's awesome.
Great point. I like the convenience of Google maps being updated and current without paying for updated maps in future, so I primarily use Google maps for navigation. Thus, the built-in nav didn't really appeal to me much, although I got it as a backup still.
Awesome info. Only thing I would say differently on the SRW/DRW is if it is a Toy Hauler over 14k go with the DRW period. It is Pin heavy compared to the conventional 5th wheel. Also, as KYD says pick out the rig first, then match the truck to it. Unless you already have the truck then reverse it or upgrade the truck. Most pin weights I have seen in manufacture documentation take in account GVWR of the trailer properly loaded.
Dealers aren't interested in safety they are interested in sales and will say "for sure that 1500/150 can tow that 14k trailer". But the big thing is do your own research and know your numbers. I also think we need to get away from the 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton, 1 ton on these classes of truck. My 2015 Ram 3500 SRW short bed has a payload of 4070 lbs, which is technically a 2 ton truck.
😂ok, let’s go with that.