Ford 8.8 LS Spider Gear, Clutch Pack Re-Installaion
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- čas přidán 23. 04. 2017
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I am surprised that after going in so deep, you did not replace the clutch packs. Thanks for the video.
Good job man. Great to see the younger generation out laying on the ground working on their cars instead of sitting on the couch w a remote in the paw. Dont ever let anyone tell you you cant do it. Good job.
Your video has by far been the most informative... Thank you!
one of the best filmed vids ive seen on yt for the 8.8 reassembly, well done sir
I've been working on my own vehicles for 35 years and after watching the first few minutes of this video I didn't have much confidence in your abilities to complete this project. I stuck it out and watched the whole video and I have to admit I actually learned a few things. Keep up the good work, thanks for posting it!
Glad it helped! I wish I had been more professional about filming and explaining this project, but this is something in which I wasn't sure if I was going to film, and then I decided to film halfway through the project. Oh well, maybe I'll be doing this again after the next 150,000 miles =)
ME TOO. This kid is wise past his years.
Thanks
Good job. Video is informative. Answered a few questions I had without taking the cover off my own differential. Am going to put a mini spool in mine. Thanks for doing this video. Pete
Excellent video and job! So informative to actually see a Mechanic "work the problem" and overcome installation difficulties! OUTSTANDING!
NOT like the HIGHLY edited "TV Car Shows" that only show how to do the job, when EVERYTHING GOES PERFECTLY, every part slips right into place( which almost NEVER happens)!! I believe those Car Shows, simplify everything, to sell the SPONSERS PARTS AND ACCESSORIES.
Great video. My Explorer differential will go together tomorrow. You gave me good insight about checking the pin wear and putting the spider gears back in. I never gave a second thought about the pin wear, but now I'll check.
Glad this helped! Let me know how it went
Great job, and even better video. Watching this gives me hope for the future ! The world needs more young people like you. Thanks for posting this. Be safe !!😇 Guy Speight
Bro...Bro!! Dude, you saved my sanity at 2am last night! I rotated a wheel by accident without my pin in and this video helped me get my spider gears back in. Thank you so much for the video!
Glad my video helped!
Just happened to me, found this video looks pretty straight forward..(I Hope)
This helped me alot especially the reinstall. Thank you.
Thanks alot. This is a great help. Also I enjoy your commentary. I subscribed immediately
Thanks for the sub Leo, Glad the video helped
your video inspires others to take on this challenging task when the spider gears fall out . the s spring must be tapped out through the hole with a hammer, then the planetary gears easily spin into place. the vice grips are only needed to lock compression long enough to wrap the spring with two large zip ties which will easily hold tension. after the s spring is partially tapped in place , snip and remove the zip ties , then tap the spring to the correct position with a hammer. this is safer and easy way to reset the spring with no pliers in the way
Crazy informative, thank you!
Good job showing thanks
Thanks for this video it helped me out alot...
Thank you, my dad spent 2 days trying to install the spider gears in his Explorer before we saw your video .
Thanks for video man. Rebuilding mine right now left planetary gear was completely stripped away with Metal shards every where clutch packs were all chewed up and missing the little ears or wings what ever they are called freaking cleaning was a pain in the efin ass 😂. got quotes of $2,800 to replace entire differential??!! I guess many mechanics don’t like to rebuild? Idk the shady ass shop i went to told me to rebuild would be double the price then to just replace with used reman diff that’s what brought me here.
you are awesome....great reference..i didn't need to remove brakes...i still don't know how i got that damn spring in....if i had a doubt or question, i used your video....wish you had the teardown video to this...my 8.8, 31 spline is in a Commanche Jeep...appreciate ya
I also have a comanche and wanna do an 8.8 swap what all did u have to do to make it fit?
Nice job
Yea also make sure you get the correct set many different gearing parts 28 spline 31 and 34 spline i have alot of play in my gearing, Also the 8.8 pinion shaft seal is 3604 part # i got the wrong one.
hey just wondering, have heard that preload must be done without gears installed? just changing my seal
i subscribe to all... Great Work Man... keep kicking ass🏅
I’m currently working on my rear end just waiting on parts to get in. I have an 08 f150 stx 4x4 and after watching your video I realize that my differential did not have the spring in it when I took it apart. Is it supposed to have it or do some have it and some don’t ????
good job
EXCELLENT
Back to school young man.learn as ya go .it cost more but you'll have a reason to not forget..
Maybe its a good idea to pop out the axle before you put in the satilite gears?
After u put the springs in can u manually spin the gears? I cant after I installed the spring
Where can I find one of the differential kits for a 95 Ford ranger 4 x 4 rear end like yours I can’t find them
Wish I saw this 4 hours ago... I tried to put mine back together in the order it came apart, got everything back together but couldnt get the satellites to rotate in with the spring in the way.
Now I have to pull that stupid spring back out.
I picked up a OEM 8.8 trac lok carrier and I'm in the process of rebuilding it. Picked up a new clutch pack set and got the packs to .640" and upto .655" and I cannot spin the spider gears back into place no matter what I do. Not sure what the deal is, no shims or steels left in the carrier. The old clutch packs measured .550" and of course the spider gears fell right out and spun back in no issues. Driving me nuts because all the videos I see of people installing them with .650" clutch packs they just spin right in. Not mine, the thrust washer on the spider gears contact the carrier and won't turn into their spots.
Hi my name is glen I was checking ur CZcams video on the Ford 8.8 LS Spider gear , Clutch . I just want to know which vehicles your working on and what was the part number of the spider gear and if vehicle was a Ford Explorer what was the vin plate axle code.Thanking in advance I will be waiting for ur reply
Where did u get ur ford f150 diff kit to buy
Why would my c clip fall out and I have a quarter inch play back and fourth?
Sorry for the rookie question, this Axle that you're showing on your video is a limited slip differential right? So that means both of the tires have the same amount of equal force when spinning (say one tire is on water and the other is in dry floor ) i'm asking this question because I have the same axle on my jeep wrangler 1993, it has the same set up as your differential that you're showing here, but for some reason I feel like mine is not A limited slip differential, even though it's the same as yours including the S spring,
Yes, it's a limited slip, that's what the stack of plates behind the spiders gears is for
And, YES, because these are clutch-type limited slips - they rely on friction between the clutch plates/steels(the aforementioned 'stack of plates behind the spider gears') - it's extremely common for them to no longer limit slip(lol) due to being worn out after 75,000-100,000 miles. Which is why there's a bunch of rebuild guides like this all over the web for them
You don't have a problem, it's all good, the clutches are just wore out and need replaced. Being a clutch-type, they are most definitely maintenance/wear items, so this isn't uncommon by any means. Now, since you have an 8.8-swapped Jeep, presumably with larger tires(33s? 35s?), I would suggest considering the upgraded carbon fiber clutch pack kit, which is literally what it sounds like. Also, you can look around the web(especially off road & drag racing sites) and find guides for alternative clutch pack stacks(different arrangements of the clutches & steels) that will tighten it up and make it more effective, especially with larger off road tires(and drag tires for that matter). Now, there's no 'free lunch' of course - if you use these guides to tighten up your clutch packs, that will increase the friction between the clutches/steels, causing them to wear quite a bit faster than the stock arrangement, necessitating a rebuild sooner. Like 20,000 miles or so, depending on how the vehicle is driven, so still pretty reasonable given the performance gain.
Solid video bro. Only question is how did you remove the c clips from the axle? Were the easy to push off with just the finger? It seemed that way
C clips are easy to remove. Once you have the planetary gears removed, the shaft, and the s spring, push the axle on the hub, the axle will slide an inch or two towards the center of the truck. Then you can pull off the c clips (usually by hand).
On that 8mm locking bolt for the pin, looks like it had red thread lock on it when you took it out. Maybe it should have it on when it's reinstalled? Just wondering.
Yes, the small bolt that holds the main carrier shaft in place does have thread locker on it. I purchased a new carrier shaft, and included in the kit was a new small bolt with thread locker preinstalled on the threads. If you reuse the pin you should use some type of thread locker
never put red thread lock on this bolt always use thread lock but not red because this bolt is next to impossible to drill if broken
also just pull carrier out to do this on a bench instead on under car just 4 bolts and some locktite defiantly locktite spider gear axel pin bolt
Hey man quick ? Will does worn out clutch packs cause the axle shaft to have about 3/16 of play , if u pull the axle in and out.
To me, sounds like a possible worn out carrier pin, worn spider gears, bad thrust washers, could be any of those or something else. Only way to find out is to take the diff apart.
I have my planetary gears in, but I can not get the spider gears to sit properly for them to be able to rotate all around. Also I can't get my housing to rotate without manually spinning the drive shaft with my hands. Any thoughts?
Double check and make sure you didn't leave an old cutch pack friction disk or steel in the carrier. My first go, I left a steel from the old clutch pack. Took me 2 days to figure it out. Make sure the spider gears are directly across from one another. This will take a couple try
Thanks for this, had to rebuild the inside of my own 8.8 trac lock yesterday, broken spiders, your vise grip tip was perfect for getting that freaking spring back in, it reallllllly helps to have a second pair of hands to turn the axles for walking the spiders into the carrier.
Glad to hear this video helped! I really wish I filmed this from the start and had my thoughts a bit more organized. This was kind of a half way through the project "let me grab my camera" type video. I hope that spring didn't backfire at you! I can't stress enough to anyone who attempts this job to wear a face shield, gloves and long sleeves at the least for that spring. Bastard shot back at me and gave me a good gash
Where did you order your differential track lock carrier gear kit? I'm having issues trying to find a track lock specific carrier gear kit
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Is it absolutely necessary to place the S spring. I heard in forums it only benefits when its extremely slippery like mud or rain. Is this true, what would happen if I leave it out. Thnks
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Great job however you should re lock tight the pin bolt
If I remember correctly, the locking bolt for the pin came with pre applied lock tight
What noises was your differential making before repair? Is it quiet now? Thanks.
This was a while ago, but the truck would vibrate when making tight turns at very low speeds. Classic sign of bad LS clutch packs
Do you know if this is the same as 2002 Grand Marquis?
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I wish my spider gears where as bad as yours, removed the cover to replace an axle and it looks like someone gave my spider gears a shit ton of meth, but no indication (noise or binding). Why would they go bad? Car has 160k and a weeping pinion seal that i add fluid too once in awhile. Only noise i hear is a bad wheel bearing (from bent axle flange).
I would have been throwing wrenches that's a hard enough task with the rear end on a stand not still in the vehicle and you persevered thru it props my boy props for sure you are the shit lol I've done a few gm 12 bolts years ago but it's been a good long tIME WE JUST pulled one out of a f150 that was run low on oil and the spiders were much worse than those the clutch packs do not look very good either due to heat so I would need a complete kit the ring and pinion surprisingly are in. Good shape still and before I unbolted the carrier I checked the back
Ash expecting 20 thou or better it was close only 14 thou so I know it's just out of spec but I really don't want to change the shims and it did not ,make any bad whine or anything before this self destructing so where do I get the whole kit to rebuild the whole carrier .and I'm going to wing it and see where it takes me besides possibly to the looney bin or the hospital lol thanks
Good luck, You will do fine!
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do all these differencials have a spring and clutch like that ? i didnt see one on my 150 van
Not al differentials have clutch packs. This is one style of a "limited slip" Differential. Limited slip means if one tire starts to spin, the clutch packs will grab, causing the other tire to start to spin as well. If you do not have clutch packs, it is possible you have a differential with no "limited slip". Generally there is a tag bolted onto the cover of the differential with the specific model of your diff. That would be the best to use for locating information on your trucks diff.
I didn't have one either on my 1997 F-150
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close - ring & pinion. :-)
Thanks =)
Guess which one is which lol
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Does the pinion has a preloaded bearing ?
dela rosguay the piñon has “ preload” established by a sleeve that crushes
Ring and pinion, rack and pinion is steering
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I am trying to find out what the part # for the kit you have
Roy Warmbold did you ever find the right kit
I would like the kit number and name
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Lol that S spring install tho
Whats the spring for
It engages the clutch pack depending on the terrain you’re on.
How the hell did you get all the washers in there and not have the tabs slip out like it was so fucking easy??? Dude I am struggling on my 3.55 I can't get this in to save my life without the clips slipping out
good vid but not a planetary gear set up its a spider gear set
Lol that’s a pinion gear not a rack and pinion haha
Ring and pinion*
I quit watching when you rack and pinion gear.
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