How This Gacha Game Shut Down in Just 6 Hours

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  • čas přidán 18. 05. 2024
  • What's the worst possible gacha game you've played? There are some that shut down within a year, or even within 6 months of the game's launch, but what if I told you that the gacha game we'll cover in this video shut down in just 6 hours after the launch date? Join me today, as we explore the bizarre case of the shortest shutdown a gacha has had, and see what Immortals: Muv Luv Alternative did wrong to deserve such a terrible fate.
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    Timestamps:
    0:00 - Intro
    0:54 - What is a Muv Luv?
    3:03 - Muv Luv Extra/Unlimited
    7:32 - Muv Luv Alternative
    9:33 - Immortals: Muv Luv Alternative
    10:50 - The downfall
    16:14 - The aftermath
    18:37 - Final thoughts
    Music used:
    pastebin.com/qBR3QGsT
    Outro music:
    • 06- Option Theme『 EZ2O...
    References:
    Immortals Gameplay Footage:
    • 『イモータルズ:マブラヴ オルタネイティヴ』...
    Immortals Gameplay footage 2:
    • BETA Exterminator Reim...
    Isayama's Inspiration clip from Muv Luv:
    • Beginner’s Guide to Mu...
    Immortals launch breakdown post:
    / muv_luv_immortals_laun...
    Muv Luv 2021 roadmap video:
    • 【2021年3月】今後のマブラヴの展望について
    Immortals Apology Stream:
    • 『イモータルズ:マブラヴ オルタネイティヴ』...
    Dimensions success announcement tweet:
    / muv_luv_going_all_in_o...
    Dimensions gameplay footage:
    • MUV-LUV DIMENSIONS - O...
    #gacha #muvluv
    v1.0
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Komentáře • 968

  • @Pseychie_NIKKE
    @Pseychie_NIKKE  Před měsícem +1020

    If you’re wondering why there’s a cursor in the visual novel footage, it’s because I used an AI upscaling tool to make the window above 480P, since the visual novel is ancient, and the cursor is a side effect that I can’t get rid of, unfortunately.
    Also, I made a Discord server! You can join it here: discord.gg/c9wz9yJcA7

    • @IdOnThAvEaUsE69
      @IdOnThAvEaUsE69 Před měsícem +25

      What a side effect lmao. Adding cursors into the video.
      Also... It's got that old-school Code Geass artstyle...

    • @upeo12
      @upeo12 Před měsícem +8

      ​@@IdOnThAvEaUsE69 Code Geass and Muv Luv, my two favorite franchises, still, I don't think the artstyle is nearly similar lol

    • @IdOnThAvEaUsE69
      @IdOnThAvEaUsE69 Před měsícem +3

      @@upeo12 Think so? I think they've got the same old-school artstyle going for both of them. Both have the big eyes and other exaggerated features.
      I'm not complaining tho, it's just not my cup of tea.

    • @upeo12
      @upeo12 Před měsícem +19

      @@IdOnThAvEaUsE69 nah cuz remember Code Geass got them stickman proportions for the characters lol

    • @destroyer68175
      @destroyer68175 Před 28 dny

      Oh, btw the Project Mikhail game leaves early access on the 26-27th this month according to an update, and its getting (all?) its online stuff removed and turned into an offline only game.

  • @VigilanteAgumon
    @VigilanteAgumon Před měsícem +4801

    They didn't even get a Persona 5 collab

    • @victrollin
      @victrollin Před měsícem +521

      I-impossible! Everyone got a Persona 5 and/or NieR collab!

    • @eleternauta2640
      @eleternauta2640 Před 28 dny +187

      Or even Nier Automata: 2B collaboration!

    • @CruelestChris
      @CruelestChris Před 28 dny +149

      ​@@victrollin
      Nikke even has collabs it _didn't_ get, such as not-Fischl and not-an-Azur-lane-character!

    • @Demonskunk
      @Demonskunk Před 28 dny +156

      I heard they were going to announce it during their 7 hour anniversary.

    • @the13thjoker
      @the13thjoker Před 28 dny +7

      They need to put Ryu in the game !

  • @adenanf
    @adenanf Před 28 dny +2730

    >Immortal
    >6 Hours lifespan

    • @RayShadow278
      @RayShadow278 Před 27 dny +73

      Very fitting, if you consider the life-span of TSF Pilots in-universe lmao

    • @WasntYourFaultYouHaveToLetMeGo
      @WasntYourFaultYouHaveToLetMeGo Před 26 dny +11

      What did they mean by this?

    • @aynejager7497
      @aynejager7497 Před 26 dny +46

      Because in universe, due to casualties, there is a superstition of 8 minutes of death that newbie pilots have to expect
      If they survive it, only then are they considered real pilots

    • @humand0969
      @humand0969 Před 20 dny +1

      close enough

    • @lanceknightmare
      @lanceknightmare Před 19 dny

      Immortals can live indefinitely. They are not invincible. You also have an extended life group like Nicolas Flamel, Billy the Kid, etc. Who were mortal, though were granted an extended life through some means. For Nicolas Flamel, it was the Sorcerers Stone.

  • @themarky2714
    @themarky2714 Před měsícem +4033

    Love Live had the gall to release an EN gacha AND ANNOUNCE THE SHUTDOWN DATE IN A SINGLE TWEET.

    • @MrBangijal
      @MrBangijal Před 28 dny +371

      To be fair, they have to do it since the JP version is shutting down as well

    • @therranolleo468
      @therranolleo468 Před 28 dny +631

      They wanted to rake in as much from their localization work as possible, imagine giving birth to a child and telling that kid when exactly they're gonna die

    • @PipimiOden
      @PipimiOden Před 28 dny +266

      ​@@MrBangijalIt's a weirdly hilarious story to me, even WITH context

    • @lanceolson5988
      @lanceolson5988 Před 28 dny +123

      Imagine if it raked in a shit-ton of money from the ultimate FOMO and games only being online for a very short window of time became the norm.
      *shudders*

    • @mizamelon
      @mizamelon Před 27 dny +185

      It gets even worse when you remember that the eng and jp servers were supposed to release simultaneously... only for the eng server to get delayed up until the jp server was getting shut down... and for the eng server to only be up for 2 months...

  • @ZontarDow
    @ZontarDow Před 29 dny +3555

    Muv Luv fan: "Oh boy, a Muv Luv gatcha, I can't wait to play it after my shift ends"

    • @kc5946
      @kc5946 Před 24 dny +163

      This made me lol because there was someone in that position for sure

    • @ZontarDow
      @ZontarDow Před 24 dny +125

      @@kc5946 The pain of a Muv Luv gatcha shutting down so fast is completely on brand for Muv Luv.

    • @shiranuii
      @shiranuii Před 21 dnem +12

      @@ZontarDow chomp chomp

    • @CID-Tanya
      @CID-Tanya Před 18 dny +18

      ....I did said that bruh....I been muv luv fan since kid...and I just can't believe it got shut down while I was away for a bit like bruh

    • @TheZackofSpades
      @TheZackofSpades Před 11 dny

      💀

  • @The-seele-simp
    @The-seele-simp Před měsícem +4546

    Ok but shutting down in just 6 hours is crazy. That’s the duration of my school hours.

    • @IdOnThAvEaUsE69
      @IdOnThAvEaUsE69 Před měsícem +146

      Mine goes to 8 and higher...

    • @nemuiexe
      @nemuiexe Před měsícem +195

      yall americans dont go to school at 8 and go back home at 17 pm!!?!?!

    • @lucastlsuen6287
      @lucastlsuen6287 Před měsícem +8

      yeah

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one Před měsícem +116

      You could have spotted the game in the morning and be unable to play when you got home!
      XD

    • @patriciavidaamor
      @patriciavidaamor Před měsícem +9

      Mine was just 4 hours 7:30 to 11:30

  • @yeastarly4268
    @yeastarly4268 Před 29 dny +1249

    What's worse, shutting down in 6 hours or announcing EOS before the game even dropped (Love Live School Idol Festival 2 💀)

    • @ogrim0
      @ogrim0 Před 28 dny +11

      What

    • @Darkriders100
      @Darkriders100 Před 28 dny +245

      @@ogrim0 Love Live School Idol Festival 2 global server is announced that the game will eos at the same time as they announced the game itself. The reason is due to JP server is already eos before global version is finished developed I believe.

    • @MeltedGeneral
      @MeltedGeneral Před 22 dny +18

      @@Darkriders100 JP server was still active at the time. In fact before the Global version start/termination date was announced, they announced the JP server was going to be EOS.

    • @MrInsiipid
      @MrInsiipid Před 16 dny

      @@MeltedGeneral Thats.. what they said, fam.

  • @victrollin
    @victrollin Před měsícem +737

    ... spill bro, you just wanted to talk about muvluv

    • @Reydriel
      @Reydriel Před 26 dny +46

      I'm glad tho, I've heard the talk about this years ago when I was still interested in reading VNs (before I stopped having time for that) so him giving an overview of it all without spoiling too much was great

    • @izutonura810
      @izutonura810 Před 18 dny +15

      And I respect him for it. Despite glowing reviews, it's still very much an underrated series still.

    • @Markm8
      @Markm8 Před 16 dny +5

      Hey i have context for a-lot of memes now so i am happy

  • @enemy3508
    @enemy3508 Před měsícem +1474

    I didn't expect to hear muv luv again after nearly 20 years

    • @ohama4272
      @ohama4272 Před měsícem +74

      INTERGRADE WILL COME THIS YEAR, TRUST THE PLAN

    • @jongwastaken
      @jongwastaken Před měsícem +22

      @@ohama4272 honestly at this point i am more excited about resonative, TDA was a lot better than i expected

    • @upeo12
      @upeo12 Před měsícem +6

      ​@@jongwastaken so many weird codenames, what the heck is resonative and intergrade 🥺

    • @jongwastaken
      @jongwastaken Před měsícem +23

      @@upeo12 So basically TDA stands for "The Day After" which is a direct sequel to Muv-Luv Unlimited. It shows the aftermath of the "Alternative V" plan. Despite being a sequel, this should not be read before Muv-Luv Alternative.
      TDA was released in an episodic manner, and currently there are four of these episodes released. The final episode was kinda in limbo for a while, until they re-announced it under the name "Muv-Luv Resonative".
      Integrade on the other hand is a sequel to Muv-Luv Alternative, though not many details are known about its plot. We basically only have concept art of it at this point (in the form of a trailer), and a release date has not been announced yet.
      Hope this clears it up :)

    • @upeo12
      @upeo12 Před měsícem +3

      @@jongwastaken it does! Thank you, nice to meet a fellow MLA fan too

  • @ShebaFr
    @ShebaFr Před měsícem +1823

    In an alternate timeline, it is Muv Luv Alternative that spawn dozens of light novels, mangas, video game spin off, billions of dollars earning gacha, anime done with care and love that can join the pantheon of mecha greats such as Gundam, Macross and Evangelion.
    While Fate would be the one struggling to stay relevant and is drowned in the ocean of products on the theme of "historical legendary and mythical figures as cute girls".

    • @shutup1037
      @shutup1037 Před měsícem +40

      Cope

    • @nicolaitakahashi9520
      @nicolaitakahashi9520 Před měsícem +366

      ​@@shutup1037different timeline different expectations I suppose

    • @gokillyourselfgoogle
      @gokillyourselfgoogle Před měsícem

      I mean it is decently known in the vn sphere has had several anime and fairly well received manga and some videogames.
      Theres a mech game on steam and even the mobile game hes talking about isnt actually gone they just took a few months to fix its issues before relaunching it under a different name and its been up for almost a year now.
      Its not fate but its definitely not some obscure indie franchise.

    • @Eisakou
      @Eisakou Před 29 dny +9

      Oh, haha I get it.

    • @dieptrieu6564
      @dieptrieu6564 Před 28 dny +73

      That will never happen if we have the same audiences. Mecha is always a niche genre even the all time great franchise like gundam isn't that big. Whereas selling sexy girl and historical figure is a way more relatable story than giant robot

  • @vietcongarmy1483
    @vietcongarmy1483 Před měsícem +911

    The only thing I know about MuvLuv is that one meme about "If you scream, I will choke you with my breast"

  • @kingbash6466
    @kingbash6466 Před měsícem +637

    No matter how bad Genshin and Fate fans think they got it, at least they aren't Muv Luv fans.

    • @TheRedJadex
      @TheRedJadex Před měsícem +46

      What if you're a fan of all 3?

    • @kingbash6466
      @kingbash6466 Před měsícem +248

      @@TheRedJadex I'm sorry for your loss.

    • @enderdudebruh8270
      @enderdudebruh8270 Před 28 dny

      ​@@TheRedJadexwe gotta put you down. look at the bunny for me

    • @snoopyodig1137
      @snoopyodig1137 Před 27 dny +15

      Genshin fans are much worse 💀💀💀💀

    • @zeroyuki92
      @zeroyuki92 Před 27 dny +6

      ​@@kingbash6466 Dang that was me, although all of them are in the different stage of life (OG FSN VN fan, years later loving MLA, and then now casually playing Genshin).
      Thankfully Genshin is the only one of those three where I play it as a gacha game, and even for Genshin I can already say that I'm playing it mostly just for music and story.

  • @rankor572
    @rankor572 Před měsícem +276

    I thought this was going to be about the Love Live spinoff that announced its end of service date before it even launched. But even that got two months of live time.

    • @therranolleo468
      @therranolleo468 Před 28 dny +32

      It afforded that 2 months life time due to over a decade of name recognition and build up from a very popular franchise, Muv Luv can afford no such luxery coming from a niche genre in an even nicher medium of visual novels

  • @valsione38
    @valsione38 Před měsícem +628

    The muv luv VNs are masterpieces imo and after that they were unable to keep the franchise afloat, even the devs said if the gacha failed that was the end of the franchise (this was because they invested on NFTs and failed lol), personally I prefer to treasure the memories the franchise gave me instead of seeing it being desecrated.

    • @user-wg1fp4zn6s
      @user-wg1fp4zn6s Před měsícem +11

      Lol

    • @KazeMemaryu
      @KazeMemaryu Před měsícem +136

      Oh god, so they're really just selling out. That's disappointing.

    • @Jame-zz4tu
      @Jame-zz4tu Před měsícem +45

      The thing is they invest too much on anime industry rather than make another thing or focus on gacha game.

    • @sayn2125
      @sayn2125 Před 28 dny +12

      I mean the keycards sold well and didn't even end up being NFTs.

    • @ultimate.25
      @ultimate.25 Před 27 dny +10

      Ofc it's nfts.....

  • @demometalico8074
    @demometalico8074 Před měsícem +541

    Ye they tried to be FGO 💀 I still cannot process how a modern gacha game tries to have a 1% drop rate for SSR in 2023

    • @zenithdex3181
      @zenithdex3181 Před měsícem +95

      This reminded me of how Blazeblue tried to be fgo and failed in like under a year.

    • @Estheriam
      @Estheriam Před měsícem +90

      >Genshin and HSR at .6% base rates

    • @KinghtofZero00
      @KinghtofZero00 Před měsícem +181

      ​@@Estheriamyes but they also have a pity system

    • @federicofilippini6780
      @federicofilippini6780 Před měsícem +69

      And? The pity is also a really bullshit one with only a 50 percent chance to get the pity and if u fail the first u need to pity again let me tell ya it’s fucking put there just to drain ya of money as any other.

    • @demometalico8074
      @demometalico8074 Před měsícem

      @@federicofilippini6780 fgo pity would like to visit your wallet soon 🥰

  • @Inkfy
    @Inkfy Před 28 dny +189

    It's kind of sad to see where Muv-Luv is now. From what I've read, the series deserved its praise. It's a shame that instead of the company investing in a standard video game, LNs, or other media, they chose a gacha game with no pity system post Genshin launch. It was doomed to fail. There's just way too nuch competiton and the bugs definitely didn't help. Its just sad to see.

    • @TheFeri
      @TheFeri Před 27 dny +2

      still isn't as bad as baldr got...

    • @grgspunk
      @grgspunk Před 9 dny +4

      It's poetic justice as far as I'm concerned. After Age restructured to form aNCHOR, they took the western publishing rights to Extra and Alternative away from Sekai Project/Denpasoft, instead opting to self-publishing the western releases themselves. While that isn't bad on its own, Denpasoft offered R-18 patches for both games prior to aNCHOR's takeover. Once aNCHOR took over, they forced Denpasoft to take both patches down and refused to sell them themselves.
      They deserved to suffer for that.

  • @CrystalOatz
    @CrystalOatz Před měsícem +509

    13:47 LIMBUS COMPANY MENTIONED!!!!!!!

  • @FinalKey
    @FinalKey Před měsícem +68

    muv-luv girls got them geometric hairs.

  • @kingsuperbobboy
    @kingsuperbobboy Před měsícem +316

    13:47 PROJECT MOON MENTIONED

  • @masterco4335
    @masterco4335 Před měsícem +179

    God that currency issue is probably one of the second funniest ones I have heard. Only thing weirder for me was the one I personally experienced in one piece treasure cruise. And that happened twice in that game's history...

    • @masterco4335
      @masterco4335 Před měsícem +13

      Like seriously the two times they messed up were big.

    • @aegisScale
      @aegisScale Před měsícem +43

      Yeah the moment I heard the game had an infinite money glitch everything made sense. I could just imagine the dev's faces upon learning about the exploit💀💀💀

    • @WindyWooshes
      @WindyWooshes Před 25 dny +2

      What happened with TC?

  • @AveryLovesGlitchcore
    @AveryLovesGlitchcore Před 28 dny +460

    Everytime people say visual novels are a dying game genre my mind always just thinks of ddlc and how hard it popped off

    • @therranolleo468
      @therranolleo468 Před 28 dny +152

      DDLC was a lightning in a bottle, a flash that's but a moment in the internet history

    • @AveryLovesGlitchcore
      @AveryLovesGlitchcore Před 28 dny +64

      @@therranolleo468 a really bright flash at that

    • @Koel_Hellion
      @Koel_Hellion Před 27 dny +11

      More luck than anything else tbh

    • @Ratio429
      @Ratio429 Před 27 dny +39

      ​@@therranolleo468 Then there's Danganrampa.

    • @user-us9yg5wq6i
      @user-us9yg5wq6i Před 27 dny +3

      That's like one game......

  • @Leoyagami96
    @Leoyagami96 Před 28 dny +73

    This... This was Muv Luv's last chance or so i heard... So most likely we won't get the chronicles animated or the last chapter of day after... So sad to see my favourite franchise sink and die so horrible.

    • @Catheur
      @Catheur Před 28 dny +6

      It hurts.

    • @tictok8208
      @tictok8208 Před 28 dny +2

      lol all they care about now is nft and ai.

    • @AoiUsagiOtoko
      @AoiUsagiOtoko Před 12 dny +2

      it's almost fitting in a meta way, that this series ends in such a heartbreaking manner :') it hurts, man

    • @aguskan5827
      @aguskan5827 Před 6 dny

      Gacha is open rn and making money lol

  • @Notllamalord
    @Notllamalord Před 26 dny +26

    seeing the UN blue helmets in a early 2000s visual novel was a jumpscare

  • @ISeeYa
    @ISeeYa Před 28 dny +70

    “VN crazed during highschool”, you and me both. Aha….I played a bit too much secretly during comp.sci., intermedia art, music tech., and basically any class that has access to a PC during free time. Had pretty much all the popular VN on a flash drive. Got caught playing Saya no Uta, luckily on the non-spicy moment and especially not on some of the other titles.

    • @punchy99
      @punchy99 Před 26 dny +6

      if i got caught playing saya no uta that would pretty much be the end for me

    • @Hetsu..
      @Hetsu.. Před 26 dny +6

      @@punchy99 id be cooked

  • @AngeVNs
    @AngeVNs Před měsícem +108

    As a VN fan who doesn't give a crap about Gachas It was nice to hear someone talk about the Muv Luv gacha, And one of many failed attempts for a vn company To go for the gachas money banks
    But was also nice to hear songs from stuff like Subahibi and Kara no Shoujo, I can tell you were once a big story VN fan
    That said while VNs are "technically" becoming less popular. There are still good stuff coming out with the last several years. In particular, we've been getting a lot of official translations of good stuff

    • @superspicysoysauce8231
      @superspicysoysauce8231 Před 28 dny +3

      Had to wait 20 years for Dies Irae and Muramasa translation.
      And such comedic timing that mtl starting to get good enough around the same time that indies VN/rpgmaker game can get translation less than few months.

    • @fg009letyrds8
      @fg009letyrds8 Před 27 dny +4

      Muv Luv definitely can branch out of its VN Roots and diversify, like bruh there's still so much to explore in Alternative. Muv Luv failed solely because AGE is utterly incompetent.
      Imagine waiting for more than a decade before creating an Anime Adaptation of Muv Luv, and then skipping Extra and Unlimited and just going straight to Alternative. Too little to late, too greedy too despite their incompetence.

    • @greenlitlleman
      @greenlitlleman Před 16 dny

      @@superspicysoysauce8231 GPT 4 truly raised MTL to another level entirely, it's hard to even notice that it's not an actual translation unless you play for a while. With some editing, you can get a decent translation in a week.

  • @WhyvernReinforcements
    @WhyvernReinforcements Před měsícem +73

    To add to the insanity of video the head dev for the first iteration of immortals was a literal who that kouki yoshimune (og creator and writer for muv luv) picked up from like a twitter thread after he said ¨yeah Id make a baller game instead of your last failure lol¨ and then proceeded to eat a horse meat ramen on releae date with the uma musume hashtag, this absolute failure was so full of himself he thought he had an uma killer in his hands.

    • @zeroyuki92
      @zeroyuki92 Před 27 dny +14

      I think Kouki by now is cursed to have anything he produced to be mediocre at best at first iteration, and only went better at the next iterations.
      OG Trilogy of Muv Luv simply succeeded because his first iteration (Extra + Unlimited) actually sold pretty well and he used his entire fortune to finish the second iteration (MLA)

    • @Masitu0031
      @Masitu0031 Před 23 dny

      English is not my first language but I want to reiterate your claim.
      So, Mr. Kouki (muv luv gacha head dev guy) ate horse meat ramen and dissed uma musume on Twitter?

    • @sakurakaslana8716
      @sakurakaslana8716 Před 17 dny +5

      @@Masitu0031 , nope. Mr Kouki is the original creator of Muv Luv series.
      The one that diss Uma Musume is the head dev of the EOS-ed Immortals

    • @Masitu0031
      @Masitu0031 Před 17 dny

      @@sakurakaslana8716 that clarifies it. Thank you.

  • @deltase7en717
    @deltase7en717 Před měsícem +111

    You know this guy is a true fan when he can actually pronounce âge correctly.
    Just a few corrections, this isnt the first gacha from the muv-luv franchise, there was another one years ago called Muv-Luv Alternative: Strike Frontier, which was set in an alternative reality were a important "unit" is different, was a really cool game, had a chibi artstyle for the in game models and a FGO style of gacha.
    About Immortals, i was there playing it because i'm a massive fan of the franchise, the idea of the game was fine until you played it, it was kind of miserable, and actually make sense to be like that, Immortals was basically done by one person that had never done a full project before as far as i remember, thats why it took a year and a half to come back because a proper studio called Next Ninja came in the project to redo the whole game, it was kinda ugly, there was a video of the producer of the franchise and the developer apologizing that was really somber, i think its still up in the muv-luv japanese youtube channel.
    The game right now is fine, they implemented the whole visual novel now in the game but it still feels like a cash grab, the story as far as i readed was not good, it was just disappointing, there were a lot of projects that rubbed the fans the wrong way in this period of time, like the NFT project as well as this gacha, and for some, the anime, but if that is the price to get Resonative, Integrate and Eurofront i would be fine.
    I would have said that this was the last place that i would have thought that i see something muv-luv related, but i would be lying, it wouldnt even be on my mind, goated video.

    • @Unbelievablyunfunny
      @Unbelievablyunfunny Před měsícem +9

      Next Ninja actually worked on another lesser known gacha game called "Touhou lostword" which is a non canon spinoff of the touhou games that's....fine I guess?? There's better non canon licensed touhou gacha game spinoffs that are even MORE obscure (genso eclipse, that one rhythm game that shutdown and turned into a steam game) also the touhou community heavily despises touhou lostword because the writers of the visual novel parts thought heavily putting fanon into the game and marketing it as a "game where people who want to learn about touhou can play!" was a great idea but idk

    • @Pseychie_NIKKE
      @Pseychie_NIKKE  Před měsícem +22

      Thanks for the clarification! I didn’t read anything other than the original trilogy, and I didn’t even know they tried an NFT project

    • @jenkips9026
      @jenkips9026 Před měsícem +9

      ​@@Pseychie_NIKKE, I would definitely recommend giving the spin-offs a try. Especially the three main ones: The Day After, Total Eclipse and Schwarzesmarken (when (if) it get translated in English). They not quite stood up to the masterpiece that the original trilogy is, but they still great on its own.

    • @IlyaCatWithABrush
      @IlyaCatWithABrush Před 28 dny +3

      Feels pretty nice to know a fellow âge fan remember Strike Frontier. And then there's also Next Answer before that.😂

    • @Catheur
      @Catheur Před 28 dny

      We don't talk about next answer or strike frontier lol.

  • @Eliryee
    @Eliryee Před měsícem +40

    Unbelievable!! But this pretty much sums how is the current state of the gacha games, is not the first company to put all the eggs on the gacha genre basket, risking to lose it all in case of failure.
    In any case, I never heard about the muv-luv franchise, and now I'm very interested in playing/reading the firsts VN.

  • @ImaginaryAlchemist
    @ImaginaryAlchemist Před 25 dny +27

    I think this story shows that not everything needs to be a massive, expansive franchise. Sometimes just telling a story and leaving it at that is the best way to go. It’s better to end things on a high note than to drag it on and leave fans disappointed and frustrated.
    I do feel for the devs though, it must have been hell going through the effort of developing a game like that just for it to shut down in six hours. At least they were able to relaunch it

  • @jongwastaken
    @jongwastaken Před měsícem +34

    You gained my sub simply by mentioning Chaos;Child, Baldr Sky and Muv Luv lol. Awesome video

  • @niksoncutts
    @niksoncutts Před měsícem +18

    This was a fantastic video. I really enjoyed how you broke down the franchise as the start in a really digestible manner, BEFORE delving into the game itself. That kind of context is really important!

  • @KazeMemaryu
    @KazeMemaryu Před měsícem +28

    Sounds to me like Age was flying way too close to the sun. Instead of tryingto break into an already oversaturated market with very little experience, they should've gone for crossovers. As a mix of Dating Sim and Mecha Battles, Muv-Luv could've fit in a wide variety of current gachas, including Nikke, Granblue, Honkai, and many more.
    I dunno if they really had a well-laid plan on continuing a story that from how I understand, is long concluded, or if this was a desperate attempt at staying relevant and making money, but yeah - the franchise is basically done for, regardless. It's either gacha hell or death, as some of the comments you showed put it.

  • @ethangnasher3848
    @ethangnasher3848 Před 28 dny +22

    Muv Luv alternative is not only a banger visual novel, but also has one hell of a banger song.

  • @wlm174
    @wlm174 Před měsícem +36

    "I don't think there's been a gacha game directly appealing to the mecha genre"
    Iron Saga look on in dissaproval, its a love letter to the mecha genre.
    There's also the SRW Gacha too, I guess.

    • @Darkoriax17
      @Darkoriax17 Před měsícem +2

      Super Robot Wars DD and X-Omega are/were amazing.

    • @charlotteshenkenberger345
      @charlotteshenkenberger345 Před 28 dny

      Isn't Azur Lane effectively a mecha-ish game? I mean, you collected anthromorptized (I think that's the right word) WW2 ships.

    • @wlm174
      @wlm174 Před 28 dny +7

      @@charlotteshenkenberger345 Nah, shipgirls aren't mecha. That said, some of the AL girls (mostly Ironblood) get pretty Kaiju like with their riggings, which is hilarious.

  • @skyMcWeeds
    @skyMcWeeds Před měsícem +19

    took speedrunning to a whole new level 😂

  • @aikawa-kun9871
    @aikawa-kun9871 Před 28 dny +20

    You read the Muv-Luv trilogy? I will follow you forever my man. 🤴

  • @WhyvernReinforcements
    @WhyvernReinforcements Před měsícem +9

    OH MAN, A GLIMSE AT THE PAIN THAT NEVER STOPS FOR THE MUV LUV FAN

  • @Keirnoth
    @Keirnoth Před 27 dny +6

    Holy cow, considering how rocky Nikke's launch was, I can't imagine trying to play a game near the beginning of the day and coming back after work or school and learning it's dead.
    I am so happy Nikke is where it is now. I just hope it sticks around for a long time.

    • @vanzeralltheway8638
      @vanzeralltheway8638 Před 13 dny

      Man.. How i wish i can also play nikke because i downloaded it early only to realize my phone's screen size isnt enouh for it...

  • @Kastienburg
    @Kastienburg Před měsícem +24

    I frickin waited for Takt op. since the anime ended just to burned all my gacha currency and not get Cosette because the pity system frinkin sucks 😭😭

    • @ghoulchan7525
      @ghoulchan7525 Před 28 dny

      Was the story any decent?

    • @kosmosXcannon
      @kosmosXcannon Před 28 dny

      ​@@ghoulchan7525story was decent. What was horrible was the UI and all the miniloading.

    • @ghoulchan7525
      @ghoulchan7525 Před 28 dny

      @@kosmosXcannon oof.

    • @kosmosXcannon
      @kosmosXcannon Před 28 dny

      @@ghoulchan7525 you know how navigate back and forth in menus? Imagine having it load between all the menus, where you haven't really changed anything to warrent the miniloading.

  • @rami5801
    @rami5801 Před měsícem +12

    5:00
    Guy reads visual novels and when you listen to the BGM around here, you hear the one from SubaHibi. Absolute Legend.

  • @Esitaro3670
    @Esitaro3670 Před 24 dny +4

    Not gonna lie, i got so intrigued with the visual novel story of how it went from typical rom-com visual novel and then went full into sci-fi that i forgot this was a video about a failed gacha game

  • @allentayoto7387
    @allentayoto7387 Před 28 dny +10

    Takt. Op was just... Sad... The anime was good, the world building is interesting and the characters are likeable. But it took so long for the game to release that all that hype from the anime was just gone. Even though I liked the anime, I couldn't be bothered to play the game cause I'm just not that interested w/ it anymore. I've already moved on from the hype that I felt from the anime.

  • @boeingnz
    @boeingnz Před 27 dny +7

    For being in the apocolypse their hair look great, spotless fair skin and their cloths were perfect.
    We don't have that in a normal running world.

  • @ashquink5413
    @ashquink5413 Před 22 dny +3

    7:39 No way, Oberon's battle theme???? Dude has a good taste B)

  • @bitfrosteseigeheim5605
    @bitfrosteseigeheim5605 Před 28 dny +5

    One of the Muv Luv immortal player, already progressed a lot within 3 hours after it's release, just to be logged in once again with infinite maintenance works. 😅

  • @Daitrombe
    @Daitrombe Před 26 dny +4

    And you didnt mention the mess with the N-F-T-s. Fantastic video, its been a while since I read the VN but its nice that the series is still going

  • @redretro7102
    @redretro7102 Před měsícem +24

    Wow this was a great video! Thank you for introducing me to the Muv-Luv!

    • @upeo12
      @upeo12 Před měsícem +2

      Read the trilogy my dude, it's awesome

  • @YoshimiMySunshine
    @YoshimiMySunshine Před 26 dny +3

    Did not expect a section dedicated to Muv Luv VN but it is a surprise I am all for! Nice to see some surprise VN content, since I myself is a fan.

  • @user-xj1cs4sf1e
    @user-xj1cs4sf1e Před 28 dny +4

    When I first saw Total eclipce it was definetelly new expirience in anime, I had never seen seemingly main characters cast to die almost entierly in a span of 5 minutes in most horrible ways possible

  • @CCYami
    @CCYami Před 28 dny +18

    Well at least this Gacha got actually released even for only 6 hours.
    Company light tried to make a Gacha based on their Shinza Banshou Series (Paradise Lost, Dies Irae, KKK) called Dies Irae -Pantheon- and actually ended up cancelling the thing as their parent company went under.
    Well at least Dies Irae got translated to english but still.
    Screw Gacha games.

  • @CalebMorea
    @CalebMorea Před měsícem +4

    A really enjoyable video. Love
    Muv luv

  • @JannieDaMannie
    @JannieDaMannie Před 28 dny +10

    Wasn't there a gacha game way back when, where it had this time loop mechanic thing? And it repeats the story but with different outcomes? It was the most unique thing I saw in a gacha game. Then the devs suddenly threw the game under the bus and ran away with the money or something like that. Gacha rates we're horrible too. 😅😅

    • @Obs13ver
      @Obs13ver Před 15 dny

      I remember playing a Gacha game that resets every 7 in game days

    • @leroyjenkins2030
      @leroyjenkins2030 Před 12 dny

      That's Eternal City AKA Forever 7 Days. Man that was such a cool concept that got ruined

    • @JannieDaMannie
      @JannieDaMannie Před 12 dny

      @@leroyjenkins2030 I remember how grindy that game was and how if you don't have the good characters, you're stuck in that loop lol.

  • @miniscooter
    @miniscooter Před 28 dny +4

    Reading it was a trip back then. The many sprites they made make it look like it's an anime. The only thing I'll say about Muv-Luv Alternative is that it's a regressor story, and it's great.

  • @OscDaBoss
    @OscDaBoss Před 26 dny +1

    I love how you've just expanded out to talk about Gacha games in general now

  • @darianstarfrog
    @darianstarfrog Před 28 dny

    Thankyou..leave the dive into what it was, and how it happened..will check out Muv Luv now too!

  • @lucastlsuen6287
    @lucastlsuen6287 Před měsícem +6

    They shut down as fast as Denmark surrender in ww2 which is crazy

  • @shidonai9977
    @shidonai9977 Před měsícem +23

    A video series on obscure/forgotten gacha games would be good

    • @therranolleo468
      @therranolleo468 Před 28 dny

      You can make seasons and seasons of it just by talking about anime adaptation gacha games, seasonal anime that got adapted from manga/LN only to launch their own gacha mobile game not long after

  • @jesteredGesture
    @jesteredGesture Před měsícem +186

    I feel baited since this was only "technically a shut down" case

  • @alaozarmg459
    @alaozarmg459 Před 18 dny

    Im halfway through the vid and i had to pause just to metion the incredible quality and detail in this production. Damn, dude

  • @sakurasaku2251
    @sakurasaku2251 Před 27 dny +1

    9:34 hearing the outer wilds ost so suddenly made me emotional... Great video btw!

  • @supsup335
    @supsup335 Před 28 dny +4

    Too bad. I actually like the alternative Timeline

  • @hassanico9999
    @hassanico9999 Před 29 dny +14

    What an insane story.
    Nice use of Oberon and Outer Wilds music btw 👍

  • @Alexandragon1
    @Alexandragon1 Před 18 dny

    Thx for the video!

  • @calrndown
    @calrndown Před 18 dny

    I've never read a single visual novel before, but I really enjoyed listening to your passionate narration. Thank you.

  • @AytchZero
    @AytchZero Před měsícem +3

    Interesting! Iron Saga is another mobile gacha. It's quite old at this point and not very popular I don't think, but it has its charm (and lots of collabs)!

  • @sparhawk2195
    @sparhawk2195 Před měsícem +4

    Well I never knew Muv LuV had a gacha. Not unexpected it would die fast. The railroaded story in alternative fucked things so badly that not even Alterd fable could fix the damage. Kinda stumbled along afterwards. So a gacha game wasn't going to fix anything.
    Another horrible "gacha" would be Breath of Fire 6. That was so bad it got boycotted by fans and shutdown fast. It's really sad to see old loved series get a mobile sequal just for the sole purpose burning to the ground.

  • @niyo919
    @niyo919 Před 20 dny

    Dude, the overview of a highly regarded series within a niche genre was really cool. I had heard the name Muvluv before but I knew nothing about it. Great vid bro.

  • @Edeeeen01
    @Edeeeen01 Před 27 dny +1

    MLA with all my gripes with the story, was such a great read. This video brought back alot of good memories of when I first read it. Visual novels are so underrated.

  • @somedude8303
    @somedude8303 Před 29 dny +4

    Just found your channel, interesting and cool videos to be honest. It’d be really cool if you reviewed Arknights, personally my most favourite gacha game.

  • @jellifygirl
    @jellifygirl Před 28 dny +4

    If only the games I like would get revived like this... Cocktail Prince got their whole IP discarded, like it never existed, and Valkyrie Crusade is... well... with a gacha system like that in the modern day, it wouldn't make sense to come back . The rates were so low and pulls were so expensive that you were either a full-blown giga-whale, or you only got event cards/free-pull-ticket cards and spent all your gems on refreshes so you could rank in the events and timer resets for building. Kakupuri had more generous pulling income and better rates (especially when EoS was announced. you could basically infinitely pull and get all the cards you missed out on), but got killed because of Apple's changes to their store (the thing that got rid of 32 bit games. I'll never forgive them.)

    • @spinosaurus2001
      @spinosaurus2001 Před 26 dny +1

      COCKTAIL PRINCE MENTIONED OUGGHH

    • @jellifygirl
      @jellifygirl Před 26 dny +1

      @@spinosaurus2001 OH MY GOD NO WAY... THERE'S OTHERS LEFT!? WHERES YOUR SETTLEMENT??? WHO IS YOUR LEADER??!?!? DO YOU HAVE THE APP STILL??!?!?!?!????

  • @JohnPeacekeeper
    @JohnPeacekeeper Před 27 dny +2

    Honestly, I think age should try getting back to their roots with classic VNs with good writing

  • @muratticugaratti1571
    @muratticugaratti1571 Před 21 dnem +2

    You are goated for using Oberon's OST

    • @cameraredeye3115
      @cameraredeye3115 Před 18 dny

      IKR I recognized that OST immediately when the violins picked up.

  • @CyberMonkey03
    @CyberMonkey03 Před 28 dny +3

    Muv Luv being mentioned at least let’s go 😭

  • @potatosandwitch
    @potatosandwitch Před měsícem +3

    With a name like Beta they seems oddlly overpowered.

  • @subparsentient2653
    @subparsentient2653 Před měsícem +2

    Never think I don't see ya there with the Let It Die elevator music. I see you there. Good shit.

  • @Lyfe
    @Lyfe Před měsícem

    Great video!

  • @RenzoCarter-ye4jb
    @RenzoCarter-ye4jb Před měsícem +7

    It’s sad to have efforts put in and just thrown out the window. Hoping all these new gachas become successful and go big.

  • @MrBloodomer
    @MrBloodomer Před 29 dny +3

    - VN
    - Japan
    - compare to Fate series
    It's P0rn isn't it?

  • @AoiLucine
    @AoiLucine Před 27 dny +2

    Enjoyed the Oberon battle theme music, nice choice.

  • @7highstraight
    @7highstraight Před 26 dny +2

    By the 10 minute mark I had completely forgotten this was about a gacha game. I was just enjoying the visual novel review.

  • @ornerylurker8296
    @ornerylurker8296 Před 28 dny +15

    “Why did this bug get through? Because there was no testing.” What you mean to say is they were just like every other scumbag devs who couldn’t be assed to do the bare minimum to makes sure they had a viable product because they just wanted to shovel it out to start raking in money. Ain’t no ambiguity about it.

  • @colinbent743
    @colinbent743 Před 28 dny +15

    A critique: nothing you said in the plot summary of the original trilogy really affected the explanation of how the Gacha flopped (except for the "beta" joke). It would have been sufficient to bring up how it was incredibly popular and that it was mecha genre.

  • @John_Alter
    @John_Alter Před měsícem +2

    Man, I remember this game. I actually was able to play it since I follow a lot of gacha channels on CZcams that promotes new mobile games.
    Although, I didn't understand Japanese, I did enjoy the gameplay and the art. I had no idea it was shutdown indefinitely since I could no longer login the next day.

  • @KeroKaminaX
    @KeroKaminaX Před 19 dny +1

    10:43 Gundam has had multiple gacha games over the years, the last one before Engage was one based off the Gundam Breakers series

  • @loumona76
    @loumona76 Před 26 dny +3

    Did you say trap ?
    Like... The word that's used very widely against trans peoples ? No...

    • @spinosaurus2001
      @spinosaurus2001 Před 26 dny +3

      Genuinely could've described the character in any other way but weebs would rather die than respect trans ppl lol

    • @Ebony___
      @Ebony___ Před 24 dny +2

      ​@@spinosaurus2001true this lol. also hearing loli gave me whiplash

  • @evilcaden
    @evilcaden Před 14 dny +3

    4:13 dont call people traps. wtf.

    • @HorseDe-luxe
      @HorseDe-luxe Před 11 dny +1

      I imagine it's gonna be a long time before anime fans drop this word out of their vocabulary, it's very disappointing, I just stopped watching after he said it. Cue someone replying something about me being a snowflake...

  • @cartoonvideos5
    @cartoonvideos5 Před 23 dny +1

    Waiting on that Crown review!

  • @anggarakarana4118
    @anggarakarana4118 Před 27 dny +1

    The whole trilogy is literally my core memory. One of my first if not the only series where i dedicate my time and emotion to play it. I went in blind and it took me a week to actually digest Alternative. I had to stop playing like 3 times in the middle of it because of Jinguji- Sensei, Sumika, and Meiya... Like dude i'm 16 at the time, that almost scars me for life.
    Well, maybe it did when i think about it knowing how different i am after that game.

  • @SilverAranda
    @SilverAranda Před měsícem +6

    Dam what a shame, Muv Luv is one franchise that deserve to be bigger.
    The abine wasn't that bad ... Well at least the side stories...

  • @trostfoxy
    @trostfoxy Před 15 dny +3

    I'm sorry but, everything good until you used the t slur. Probably going to get hate comments here, but its still very inappropriate and harmful to say.
    I hope you have a good day.

  • @Ypsilion
    @Ypsilion Před 26 dny +1

    As a UIUX designer in the game industry, I yelled when I saw the UI. It's copy pasted from Arknights, and you can tell which parts they had no clue how to make because they look outdated and not polished. The game as it is now, the design is also very outdated.

  • @shikniwho7215
    @shikniwho7215 Před 28 dny

    remember see the news for it way back but after i saw the character's design without the iconic's suit, i don't feel like try it out and forgot about it

  • @DaleTwokey
    @DaleTwokey Před měsícem +3

    Muv-Luv being talked about in 2024 in the context of a failed gacha game retrospect is a bit wild, but I'll still take it.
    If any of you actually decide to pick the VNs after this video, I salute you, enjoy the ride. First you Muv, then you Luv.

  • @loversickoo
    @loversickoo Před 18 dny +5

    4:12 guys it's 2024, "trap" isn't funny anymore, it's just transphobic.

    • @kanrakucheese
      @kanrakucheese Před 7 dny +1

      The anime archetype predates your exploitation by the psychology industry and is completely unrelated. No matter how much you try to repeating your nonsense, it doesn't become true.

  • @angazdimotel8488
    @angazdimotel8488 Před 28 dny +1

    I noticed that Let it Die music, good taste brother

  • @SubstituteRealitiesChannel
    @SubstituteRealitiesChannel Před měsícem +1

    Didn't even know they have a Muv Luv gacha game until now lol. But that guest account bug was hilarious lol.

  • @Elijah_Kujo
    @Elijah_Kujo Před 25 dny +3

    Trap is usually used as a slur or insult. Please use the terms femboy, gender non comforming man, or others depending on what the situation is.

    • @SifGuguk
      @SifGuguk Před 24 dny

      what???

    • @kanrakucheese
      @kanrakucheese Před 7 dny

      No it's not. It's an anime archetype that's unrelated to you and predates you. Quit trying to hijack everything you see in hopes of finding validation after your life has been destroyed by a corrupt industry that is now being legislated out of existence in even the most far gone countries.

    • @mirzapramudya1580
      @mirzapramudya1580 Před 3 dny

      Hey look! The trap I set up caught a big deer!

  • @fableagain
    @fableagain Před 15 dny +3

    'Trap' is a slur, why are you using it...

    • @kanrakucheese
      @kanrakucheese Před 7 dny +1

      Because it's not. It predates your exploitation by the psychology industry and the comedy characters have nothing to do with you. No refunds.

  • @TsunogaiDanshaku
    @TsunogaiDanshaku Před 14 dny +1

    Before watching this video, I only knew of Muv-Luv through mecha and model-building circles, and the impression I got of it was that it was a very grim, downbeat series with a depressing setting and a lot of character death. I had NO IDEA it was a VN, and everything about its style and presentation was a huge surprise to me. Basically, I got the mood whiplash in reverse to everyone else.

  • @Nian91131
    @Nian91131 Před 28 dny

    I remember watching the fastest ending service, i dont remember its this one or other game that have same problem. But the thing that i remember is "Not preparing beta test before the game release" is the reason. Thats why alot of game taking their time for mulitple beta test to prevent something bad happening on the release