The Atrocious Gacha Review | Limbus Company
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- This is the true game for masochists. Project Moon's Limbus Company has got to be one of the most creative and intriguing gacha games I've played. Being pioneers of indie game development, Limbus is both stylistic and addictive in its nature to hook you with with the gameplay. While the initial barrier of entry is quite high, getting past it will lead you to a pleasant experience with the story and characters. This is the second volume of the Atrocious Gacha Review. Let me know which game you would like to see next!
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:36 - Game overview & past works
5:18 - Gameplay explained
16:42 - Progression
20:24 - Gacha & Monetization
24:18 - Presentation
26:40- Late Game Content
33:37 - FOMO Elements
35:25 - Variety & Content Frequency
36:42 - Final rating & Thoughts
Music used:
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Outro music:
• 06- Option Theme『 EZ2O...
Special thanks to the staff of LimbusDotGG for helping with account progression. You can find their articles of the game here:
limbus.gg/
#gacha #limbuscompany
v1.0 - Hry
Hello! I've been going through your comments for the past day, and I've decided I'll likely silently keep my account going while chipping away at the main story. I know a lot of you Limbussers really emphasize it, so I'll likely find some time to finish Library of Ruina then try to do Canto 5/6.
I probably won't be doing much Mirror Dungeon, but it's good to know that if you reach the later stages, there is a hard mode for it that grants more rewards. One month is not enough for most gacha games to know the total ins and outs, so I definitely admit there were some details I've missed. Don't let my dislike for grind stop you from enjoying the game.
If you were wondering how I progressed so fast, I had a member of the dotGG site for Limbus give me some tips. You can check out their articles at limbus.gg/
Since I didn't see a lot of comments suggesting the next game, I've already picked it: Path to Nowhere will be the next atrocious gacha review.
Oh path to Nowhere.
I love that game.
The end content is kinda hard but the gameplay is really fun and enjoyable.
I also like how some of the lower rarity ones are still meta in the game
path to nowhere essentially gives you one of the strongest character in the game for free if you managed to finish the new player missions
Also i suggest to skip pulling for the current character banner in path to nowhere since the next event is 1.5 and there's limited meta characters coming and they are strong.
The one you should pull for in the 1.5 event is deren
yeah like we say MD HARD is like ALL THE WEEKLIES in 1(+hard mode bonuses) run rather than 3 runs
We limbussiers got to gaslight you for real (like a certain character in canto 5)
I think the monetisation of Limbus Company can be summed up by a specific Steam review:
"A gacha game made by a company that has no idea what the fuck a gacha game is. No wonder it's the best of its kind."
"alright guys, it's just meant to make us money for our next games no need to-"
The writers: ✒️✒️🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@LocalArchangel
the director is the writer
@@LocalArchangelim gonna Overclock if i find out the writers also have fanfics in their profiles
@@HopelessAura756 too bad he throwning his chair at monzo everytime he fuck up coting and we didnt lag behind story for 3 year unlike fgo who abbondant story due coding problem while raking billion at this point
@@duyanhbui5386
what?
"this is the game for masochists"'
May I introduce you to Lobotomy Corporation?
A management game so intense it has a breakcore track.
And Library of Ruina “the difficulty spikes are vertical”
I only played Limbus Company because I came from Lobotomy Corp.
@@raijinwolf2248play Library of ruina if you haven’t lmao
@@FailedLobotomyPatientThat shit is a WALL
Limbus Company is an interesting gacha game because the studio outright said they're using it to generate revenue so they can make more games. Which makes the decision to make it not whale friendly even more unique as they totally could've just tried to make bank but they value their players so much (too much even) that it's become such a low spender friendly game.
We dont deserve project moon.
They are too good for the gaming space, i hope they always stay consumer first.
@@qaztim11
The day PM goes corrupt is the same day millions shall distort
If you consider that PM is an indie company where half of the staff doesn't even work in games and instead operate HamHam PangPang (a restaurant/merch store) then they are making money, even if this feels nothing compared to other gacha's inside revenue. So yeah, is refreshing to see a game company that wants to make money but doesn't want to dry up the wallets of their players
How I like to describe Limbus Company is “let’s see how many horrible game mechanics we can add, and then make them fair” Gatcha system? Let’s add a proper pity system to allow everyone to get everything no matter failure. Battle pass? Add all pass content into the general pool and make it pityable next season for those who missed it, mitigating content loss alongsides adding very generous rewards. Literal coin flip luck? Add a sanity system which allows for luck to be as close to eliminated as possible while also supporting strategy.
I literally bought the pass to show my support.
Limbus Company doesnt have fan service - me seeing carmens eyes for 1 frame and having a mental breakdown
the fanservice is stored in the random noises Sinclair always makes each Canto
Fanservice is a glimpse of a minor character from the previous games mentioned/returned(Kim, who's not even in a main reseption).
Molar Ishmael💀
You won't be getting any fan service here... *Unless you're into guro...*
I really like how Limbus' fanservice is nostalgia bait instead of... what other gachas do.
I don't think I've ever seen a game review where "I don't have to play 100% efficiently to progress" is listed as a downside before. Gacha addicts are a different breed fr
Here is some insight from a launch player
This game is absolutely targeted for low spenders. It almost a subscription based service for how much the battle pass gives you. The ability to shard anything in the gacha is ridiculous and is ridiculously easy. I have played since launch and only pay for the battle pass and I have almost every ego and ID with most of them maxed out. It can be brutal for FTPs to max out their accounts, if they really care about that since the story content is quite easily clearable(especially for LOR players). There is a sizable chunk of players that only come back to the game when story content is released and winrate through all the content and leave.
So lunacy ends up not being that useful on many accounts, including mine which is absolutely insane for a gacha game.
How many Limbus players do dailies including myself is that we pay to get 1-2 energy refills via lunacy and convert them into modules. We skip thread luxcavation twice, then speedrun 1 thread luxcavation, usually testing out new combos and comps(at least I do). Then do 1 exp luxcavation. Skipping is actually beneficial here even with the only 1.5x multiplier of rewards since we get threads faster so it increases the rate of our account progression and it makes better use of the daily bonus.
It takes about ~5 mins to do dailies which is very low for a gacha game. Weeklies for end game players is basically 1 hard mirror dungeon which takes around ~1 hour. The shards that I get from this basically allows me to shard everything in the season. Grinding mirror dungeons is completely optional and you don't really have modules for it anyway so im not sure what you mean by grindy. I am quite busy person in real life and I feel that this game mostly respects my time, they don't randomly add dailies and weeklies to bloat my daily playtime and they improve the mirror dungeons so much to the point its almost a different game each season to make it more fun. Dailies are so streamlined too(same goes with upgrading, etc), compared to other gachas where you have to click a million buttons to finish dailies and have a million upgrade mats and different ways to upgrade your character.
Also, one funny observation I noticed is that you spent 1 month playing the game but only finished canto 3.5. Many players finished Canto 3(including me) on launch day and probably could have finished 3.5 too.
i replayed limbus company because i have nothing better to do and i reached canto 6 within 3 days
@@Ishmaelsquid Damn, I guess you liked the game man, or else you are distorting right now
@@IshmaelsquidI'm glad my experience with the game mechanics help people understand limbus company.
@@Ishmaelsquidmadlad how did you even had high lv units to keep up with canto 5
I’m baffled that it took him an entire month to get that far and complaining about the grind even though he is just out of tutorial and at the launch it was way grindier remember when you had to do mirror dungeon to get exp tickets?
6:17 He definitely wanted 5 Ishmaels in his party
And to be fair, can we blame him? Multiple ids of one sinner mode would be kinda fun.
QUICK SUPRESSION
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@@a-red_digit6644fastest supression this side of the city
@@a-red_digit6644old infinite skill glitch be like
@@blowbow5561 That should be the next April Fool's.
You get the ability to have multiple of the same sinner in battle.
Imagine a full team comprised of only Don Quixote.
Fun fact! Gloom is not just a "replacement" for greed decided on a whim, some versions of the seven sins that go back to the Middle Ages, if I recall correctly, consider greed and gluttony as one and list the last sin, you guessed it, as gloom~
I find it unfortunate that you you decided to drop limbus, limbus company story is one of the most interesting and i guarantee you that 90% of players play just for the story. A lot of players just max out one op team which consists out of meta units and just clear story with this team and after finishing the story they proceed to forget about the game till new story content. But i enjoy the fact that limbus made you interested in trying out library of ruina and maybe you will continue playing limbus at some point, because i generally think that limbus is one of the best in gacha genre
Correct. While you can 100% all the game's content with a pinch of dedication and own all ID's and EGO's, you can simply just acquire 1 ID for each Sinner that just clashes the best and you will succeed.
Story is sooo good
@@lizardmanz basically: r heath, w ryoshu,TT/kumo honglu and any other of your best ID and you can clear the entire game by pressing win rate
His explanation for why he dropped it did make sense, though. This is a CZcamsr whose job is to review other gatcha games, which can be massive timesinks in and of themselves. He seems to enjoy more traditional gatcha systems, for better or for worse, and Limbus isn't friendly at all to the types of players used to those systems. That, and he seemed to recognize the amount of commitment it takes to fully appreciate a game like this, especially for someone who likes optimization and maximum time efficiency. Nothing wrong with deciding that's not one's thing, I'd say.
Not everyone has the same likes as you! The game is a big time sink and he got other gacha games to play and review! 😅
Just to clarify about the Mirror Dungeons, once you unlock Hard Mode you have the option to consume all 3 Weekly Bonuses if you finish just 1 time. This means you can just do 1 Hard Mode run for the week instead of 3 Normal runs.
Additionally the "Refraction Railways" often have a ton of rewards for beating, and you still get partial rewards for trying. If you complete a Railway it can rival a completed battlepass in terms of rewards.
And pm gives tons of rewards every week and bugs and glitches are celebrated and cheered at afterwards because more resources given and if you beat or used something pre fix you got bragging rights of the glitch or big made it harder and if was easier you can do it again for intended way
as a note, the cosmetic reward for refraction railway is only for tryharding it (beating it in X turns) while all of the tangible rewards are from just beating it which is doable for basically anyone at that point.
And if you unlock enough starlight gifts, you can cheese through normal dungeon in 15 minutes
@@LongNguyen-cz5ty I have no idea how to do it like that but I can just spam P then enter for pretty much auto also you existed for the update tonight for the I
Final third of canto 6 story and Maid ryoshu reveal trailer on 2 days
@@soothsayingProfit To add, the base sinners are able to complete refraction railway. Esogoo (a limbussy youtuber) completed refraction railway 2 and 3 (there is only 3 so far) with the worst team comp possible (using IDs worst than base sinners in the fight + having useless/detriment support passives). So there is 0 reason to complain that refraction railway is p2w. Its a skill issue and git gud.
You forgot to talk about the music.
There are some amazing tracks especially the mili song
CZcams Copyright © Rules,
Don't want Risking Your Channel Getting Strikes.
@@bimoprasetyo6862 kinda sure i no one get a copyright strike by playing mili songs, beleive me i seen a lot of limbus or library of ruina youtubers using said songs.
I'll be honest, i feel like it's harder to answer what gacha DOESN'T have good music
@@user-zw7zp3jg5f None that's kinda much it, all kinds of gacha music based on preference do a certain niche that a whole majority of people will enjoy and be slightly fond of so there really isn't a bad song a gacha game can have.
Ch 6 A2 as good as Ch2 C1. And Ch4 has the best ost. Change my mind
Am I the only person who had a stroke every time he called Gregor Gregory? It's small, but for some reason it just slaughters my brain every time he calls him Gregory.
So I’m not the only one…
or “Ver-gill-ius”
as a season 2 and since player, also having completed library of ruina 5 times and lobcorp twice,
projmoon tried to make a gacha. ended up making an actual game. never change, projmoon.
You truly have become outistic, rotter of brain
I don't know what kind of brain damage you have to clear the absolute slog of lobcorp twice.
I hope it wasn't a full reset.
@@realhumanbean7915 Lob corp is actually amazing what the hell are you on about.
@@realhumanbean7915 full reset rest assured
Bruh the willpower to complete lobotomy corporation twice, I wasn't even able to finish it
Blud chose the genuinely worst time to quit this game. Canto III is alright, Canto IV is great but the midgame is excessively long, just combat encounter after combat encounter making you wait for the next story bit. And that's where you stopped, ouch. You're missing the Canto IV ending, Canto V, and the currently developing Canto VI. These aren't just exceptional "for a gacha game", they are exceptional media in general. There's a reason why the ending to Canto V filled the PM space with "peak fiction" memes for a good month, it's because it IS peak fiction. You genuinely are missing out.
Personally I'm a very low energy player, I can only play on the weekends at the moment. I buy the passes and I do one mirror dungeon hard playthrough per week. You didn't get to it, but MDH is not only a lot more engaging, but it only has one booster instead of three per week and rewards so massive that I, a low energy low spending player, can easily max out my favourite characters and get almost all the new content.
Your comments on being inefficient seemed almost alien to me. These aren't your dailies, because if you treat them as dailies then you will literally run out of things to spend your resources on. At least if you do have the pass, which is just pocket change per month.
yeah he didnt get to the true late game unfortunately, the game is way more of a single player than a gacha.
The thing is that canto 1-3 are introductions are more a very long tutorial with 3 being the closest to a real canto, yet still unfinish buisness
So he basicly finishghe tutorial and play 1 more level, but it was also 1 month of playing so is kinda fair.
"Gacha reviewers quit just about as they hit BIG" meme
@@ericquiabazza2608I know I'm late, but, if getting out of the tutorial or introductory phase of your game takes a whole month then that's a good reason to quit or not play it imo, it's the equivalent to the One Piece meme of "it gets good at chapter 1000" lmao
@@_black_bird You're wasting your time talking to project moon/limbus fans. They usually refuse to see flaws within their games.
Overall Well made review although I do have some comments.
1. Skipping a daily is inefficient, BUT, it also allows you to earn resources faster than you normally would have.
Most/all people only do the thread dungeon when there is the daily bonus, by skipping you get 50% more daily than what you would get by doing it normally. It's not there solely to punish inconvenience, it's just another gameplay decision for players to make.
2. A daily mirror dungeon run isn't part of the game actual dailes/weeklies and shouldn't be represented as such, it's something that you personally felt you should do, not something incentivized by the game itself due to only 3 bonuses per week. In fact, since you said you must do things efficiently, wouldn't doing mirror dungeon without the bonus be considered inefficient? There's a difference in speed and efficiency as displayed in point 1.
You don't consider killing every single mob spawn in HSR everyday for the mats a daily because it's not, it might be the most "efficient/optimal", but it's not a daily and shouldn't be considered a daily, same with mirror dungeon.
3. The weekly mirror dungeon bonus only needs to be done ONCE a week not three. Upon unlocking MD3H, you can do it once a week and claim all the rewards.
4. The fact that you state "This review are what the game let's me to accomplish in one month" and only finishing canto 3. Is a misrepresentation of the game itself, the only time gating in limbus is your stamina generation, no other version of time gating exist. Stamina resets every level up. You would have more than enough stamina to complete minimally until canto 4, more than likely until canto 5 and beyond.
You only managed to reach partially into canto 4 isn't because the game time gated you. You just simply didn't play all that much. 25 hours in a month averages to less than an hour a day.
Indeed i feel that the stamina system is the most drawback for new players, as one can easily run out of modules or even lunacy and boxes trying to speed that
This in itself is also good because it foeces people to not expend hours upon hours on it, whih is the original intent of stamina, to not make player play every hour.
So it make the game more a long time comitment.
You could also just use lunacy refill once a day or even twice every day of the week for more efficient energy gain.
Think about it, 1050 (without bugs) lunacy a week that can be converted into energy. Energy can be comverted into modules. Module can be made into xp, thread, or even yellow concretes from the mirror dungeon by fueling the lv120+ bonus, yellow crates allow you to unlock more ids and ego.
Math time! This is based off of an energy cap of 120.
Let’s say you replenish your energy with lunacy twice a day for every day of the week and convert that, alongside all of your naturally generated energy into modules. You’d then get 24 a day and or 168 a week.
If a hard dungeon run costs 18 modules and normal costs 5, you can do 30 normal runs a week alongside one hard dungeon.
Do you know what this means? A hard run is worth 225 pass xp and a normal run with no bonus is 30. Added all up you can get 1125 pass xp or *a hundred and twelve and a half pass levels in a week* which equates to 112.5 yellow crates (337.5 for those who bought the pass) ego crates a fucking week.
For free to play players, that equates to a 000 id every two weeks and triple that for pass buyers. (Working with the average of 2 shards per crate as they can make 1-3 randomly)
For pass buyers, it is possible to generate thousands of excess crates and literally never be able to not obtain something through sheer grinding force. This is even more true for launch players, and even more so for those who have already grinded for everything.
Do you now realize the true magnatude of the sheer bullshit levels of insanity grinding can allow limbus players to do? Being capable of literally running the game dry and creating a stock of resources so grand they can’t EVER be depleted? Ofc crates and shards get cut in half at the end of every season but that’s just more thread for uptying/threadspinning.
I refill twice a day, sometimes even 3 but very rarely, and I've gotten every character. Only a few of them are not lvl 40 uptime 4. With all my ego at uptime 2.
Spending less then 1 pulls worth of lunacy to get more modules to farm thread / exp tickets is a must
On G, I was able to beat canto 4 in 2-3 weeks. Ricardo made it take 4-5 weeks to beat canto 5 in the TOTAL time
Grinding section of this video was really really stupid along with 1 month of play to just get to 3.5 when you look at other players or streamers who joined later they got there in less than a week
If he thinks limbus is grindy he must be absurdly casual like disgusting levels of it
"No fanservice"
I have just one word: Leviathan.
It is fanservice, different type, but fanservice.
Fanservice can either serve ones sexual pleasure or ones mind
The red gaze would agree to this
Also the walpurgisnacht stuff
Danteh in the thumbnail... it so peak..
ITS SO PEAK!
What's PEAK is the Seth pfp. I tip my hat, one Egyptian boy-enjoyer to another.
Wtf gay projectmoon fans unite!!!
Wtf Newas???
Surprisingly enough the battlepass of limbus is the best battlepass there is in any gacha game and it's the only gacha game where i spend my money because it's totally worth it
the fact that you only need to pull a SSR once to get it's full power is absolutely generous compared to Genshin, whose SSR character's game mechanics are locked behind both pulling the same SSR character 5 or 6 more times and pulling for their custom-made SSR weapon.
@@jonnysilia5740 man just say 000
Yes sir, GLORY TO PROJECT MOON 💪
@@jonnysilia5740*cough* FGO *cough*
It's worth it not just in the rewards it gives, but also feels good to support the development with what they cooked in the story but also with their non-predatory practices. It's a simple way to give back that also gives back to yourself.
The PM sleeper agent fans have been activated
The thing is the world of limbus company is dark yes but the stories are always about becoming better people
"Always" that's a massive exaggeration
That's nowhere near true, and I've not even played through it yet, just talked about it and watched videos so far.
@@Ryzard sorry but if you play the game even project moon's previous games.
What I'm saying is true
Your stance on maxing out grinding really resonates with me personally. The feeling of losing out clashes with time constraints making it feel like a burden that one has to commit to with insufficient returns.
Yet, I'd say that you gave this game too little of a chance. Exp tickets and Threadspin materials devalue rapidly. As you said, it's not like relics, where you can't have enough. It does not matter if I get 200% or 150% if I never get to use it... they just pile up.
You also let, let's call them “hyper enthusiastic” players' takes influence your view on the Mirror dungeon. The satisfaction of getting the 3 weekly bonus rewards +1 hard bonus (after unlocking it) in a single go just feels good. Every subsequent run after that becomes minuscule in comparison. Instead of making me feel like I was losing out not running it daily, I felt like every subsequent run a week was a comparative waste!
I feel good about the game because the dailies feel like the fastest thing just get the stamina resource twice and skip through the Battle Pass dailies in a few minutes. Pair it with 1 Mirror dungeon run (per week) and let the Battle Pass accumulate to get free characters that in other games would get pay and or time walled.
TLDR: rush Limbus = crappy experience
The only time to ever rush limbus is to unlock normal mirror dungeon but outside of that you aren’t missing anything by not being caught up or being in late game
Honestly I rushed it and had quite a bit of fun. I was under leveled for most fights until the wall in Canto 4, at which point I learned how to use supports. I now also do quite a few MD normal runs a week for the extra battle pass levels. I am already at 110 this season.
@@bestaround3323 out of curiosity how long did it took you to get there?
@LTDLetsPlays I mean 15 MD runs, and doing all my dailies. The 2 weekly MDH runs are a part of the 15. I should be at least 130 by the time part 3 drops. So I guess maybe a total of 18-20 hours over threeish weeks
i wont even lie, i love MD as end game content since i can have fun with the different ids and play runs for the fun of it. they definitely optimized MD3 for long term fun with ego gifts and the new starlight skill tree giving options for builds and character runs and see big numbers whilst going through the weekly content. MDs lack of attention needed aswell once you build good teams allows me to just play it while doing other things in the background, i have more fun doing MD than alot of other weekly systems like arknights imho.
Honestly extremely surprised you didn't even get to chapter 4 in an entire month. Most people had chapter 3 beat, or close to it, before the end of the first week of the game's launch. I'd expect someone who just started now to be able to get to at least canto 4 or 5 by the second week, even needing more levels for your sinner. Doing the exp luxcavations, even only once a day, should have been enough to get you a decent way through the older content, especially since you started during the anniversary.
And, to be honest, I know Limbus is a gacha game and has a stamina system, but when you mentioned it felt like a single player game with gacha tacked on... that's basically what it is. Playing it like a normal gacha game isn't going to do it any favors. It's one of those games that, if you have the time and enkephalin, you can just power through as if it was a normal game. The lead dev of the game has said he likes gacha games but wishes they weren't so money hungry and p2w and he just wanted to make a good one.
this dude actually used lob corp legacy footage i cant 😭
That was a great video. You gave a very fair critique of the game. I wish you stuck around to unlocking hard mode as that makes the grind considerably easier. But i can understand why you are out with the game. Ive been playing the game since day one and have been impressed with how much project moon improves with each season. Hopefully you will enjoy ruina when you get around to playing it!
Yeah I can understand the grind can be somewhat tedious
@@stuckerfan2563I disagree this grind unless you are trying to Farm crates is barely there
@@LTDLetsPlaysand even if you need to grind crates it is good enough to do 1-2 1 hour runs per day if you have 5 semis decent teams for starlight cycles
@@stuckerfan2563 until unlocking hard mode mirror dungeons it's understandable, after that there is absolutely no grind 😂
@@stuckerfan2563 Honestly what grind? I do one weekly mirror dungeon no dailes nothing else other than converting capsules. Am doing just fine missing just 3 identities with a bunch at u4 level 40.
I'm sorry but calling Gregor "Gregory" was the funniest thing ever
Ahh.. Limbus... the only gacha game that punish u for rushing, and whaling..... Ngl, once u get MDH... the grind becomes non existent tbh.... unless u want mountains upon mountains of boxes, Lmao.... Also, battle pass 100% worth the money
Hi Hug!
I mean box farm is better than trying your luck on lunacy since you can just buy whatever I'd or ego you want.
even tho i've been playing since season 2, how does Limbus punish whaling again? I genuinely forgor
@@tps_sp Cuz you dont get stronger units by getting copies... like Genshin, and other gachas... U just get one and thats all...the only whale friendly thing in Limbus that I can think of is Walpurgist night. I need Roland announcer... please... god... I will whale for it...
@@JannetFenix Wassup ;)
Only one mistake in the story summary I’m quite impressed but honestly, it’s better that you said it incorrectly that way you don’t spoil the true ending of lobotomy corporation
Still, most fall back to the initial pitch of "SCP energy company" and "employee are disposable"
@@ericquiabazza2608 we can change anything intensifies
I don't want to be this seeting fan that is like "Nooo you see, it gets good once [...]"
But I don't fully agree with you with the grinding problem
You can do story without problem if you just do some spending modules on luxcavations and get some good IDs
I can see that clearing 3 Mirror Dungeons a week is extremaly tiring, but once you actually clear the story, you can caim those 3 bonus rewards at once, making it only being 1 clear a week
Only harder content, like Refraction Railway or Mirror Dungeon Hard require you to actually lock in and have fully leveled up team
I would say that grind in this game is NOTHING comparable to Genshin or Fate
It respects your time unlike the two I mentioned
There is no time limit on getting resources like the daily resources in Genshin or Weekly bosses
And absolutely no artifact RNG
I was kinda dissapointed at your final conclusion, because I would love to hear your opinions about later parts of story/game mechanics and see your reaction
And like I said at the beginning I don't want this comment to be seen as mad seething fan cuz his game is not for everyone
Im glad you even gave Limbus a try!! I may not fully agree with what you said but I respect your time and opinion
This company is really good at making games sadly their games are not as popular
Also one thing they do that order gachas don’t have is that they only have 12 characters
And I love how interesting they are.
They aren't your typical gacha game group where they are all nice.
No they are a bunched of flawed and fucked up individuals with their own mistakes and baggage
I personally think it's a clever idea to limit the gacha to 12 characters through making the gacha system effectively a loadout gimmick.
It allows the players to get to know each character personally rather then most gachas that dump dozens of characters upon you and hope you'll find a favorite, but that favorite will only have a small amount of screentime and character development, and slowly becoming a static NPC because the gacha needs to throw another 100 new characters for you to gamble money on.
Games should rlly do that method of unit creation more. It's really nice if every character can get the chance to develop and grow like a person instead of being surface level. Kinda sad how honkai drove away from this since I genuinely loved the chapter 1 characters and their stories
It's because they are not going to far with the story, it has an end in mind, and when they get to that end, that will be it, which is very good
Many gacha don't have ends, they just go adding up more story, like fgo
Honkai Impact 3rd is actually the exact same way. The cast eventually slowly got bigger, mostly when they introduced the previous generation of characters a few years into the game so I think it's up to like ~25 now, but it's still way more focused for the benefit of the story than anything else. One of my biggest gripes with Genshin is that they abandoned that design :(
I'm one of the weird people who play mirror dungeons for fun. Sometimes I just don't feel like it and only do the weekly hard mirror dungeons, other times I'm sitting there playing them for hours each day
as a free to play player I think my long grinds for telepole heathcliff and Blade Lineage Meur have something to do with my affinity for the MD, I only did normal mode runs because I was too cowardly to try hard mode and now I do MD runs for fun when I get bored, send help
@@catsoffleece838 honestly same, i DO NOT have confidance with my current skills and after trying MD3H ONCE.... while yes i won big somehow, i gotten the ptsd too
so i stick to normal MD's to see my lil goobers bonk enemies in funny ways lel
You are not weird. MDs let's you try out ID's that you didn't lvl up yet or try combinations you would usually avoid not to waste energy. MD is a sandbox to try all your new toys.
This is probably the best limbus review I've seen out there, so I'll take the chance to add some things missing about progression as well as talking a bit about Refraction Railway since there is more to it than the cosmetics.
There is a Support feature, meaning you can borrow Identities from your friends with whichever EGO they have asigned on to it, so if you got that one friend who has all the goodies you can use their stuff for Story content, Luxes and Railway.
A thing to note about luxcavations, specifically thread is that they have 3 daily attempts to get thread for doing them. If you can skip them, you will end up getting way more than doing the battles manually as while you are getting x1.5 rewards for skipping, you still get more for attempts. For EXP tickets sadly this is not the case and it kinda is inefficient to skip but for Thread is quite recommendable that you skip either 1 or 2 times to get more thread daily.
The mirror dungeon topic is also kinda finicky, since I agree that grinding it to oblivion can get extremely exhausting, but after you unlock hard mode, doing 1 hard dungeon and 1 normal a week nets you 25.5 pass levels and 750 lunacy per week, with even more if you decide to do more normal dungeons (without weekly bonuses normal and hard dungeons give the same rewards, the only difference being hard takes longer to beat) which can significally speed up progress. A tip that can help you stack on both modules and save lunacy is to do 1 daily refill of enkephalin with lunacy since you still generate more with the weeklies so you can save the lunacy and stack up on resources.
If anyone wants a somewhat good daily cycle to literally just play the game for only 2-3 minutes a day, my current set up is just generating modules 2 times, one with a lunacy refill, then doing 1 EXP lux manually and skipping 1 Thread lux. This is enough to fill up the daily section of the battle pass, meaning 1 pass level, and a positive module gain. If you have a lot of modules, you can skip more Thread luxcavations for more thread. Some days if I feel like it I'll do a mirror dungeon, however it's not really a needed daily obligation.
A thing to note is that my enkephalin capacity is of 140 as I'm manager level 72, so if anyone plans on following this, you might wanna do thread manually for some time and then whenever you can gain 5-6 enk. modules per full bar you can start doing this cycle.
Now, the thing about the Railway from someone that has been able to participate and kinda tryharded the last 2 railways done, the cosmetic rewards are just offered for tryharding the mode, which in this case is trying to complete it with a total turn count as low as possible. Outside of that, the mode offers quite a lot of rewards for beating each fight, ranging from exp tickets and thread to 10 pull tickets and a special season specific 000 10 pull ticket that guarantees you will get at least one 000 identity from the specific season the ticket belongs to. However, these rewards are first time only, so most people can just do the specific railway once, get the rewards that actually matter and then never touch the mode again until the next railway.
Also, sorry if my english sucks, it's not my first language so if you see something written like shit, my bad sorry ^^'
WITH THIS SACRED BRAINROT, I SUMMON!
Lunacy, roll, and coin coin.
Eight-Status Handling, Brainrotting Sila, Divine Sleeper Agents...
Project Moon fandom.
_Apocalypse Bird Scream_
@@LocalArchangel [third thrumpet starts playing]
@@YourOnlyBong item asylum cronoid spotted
what is the group you fight mainly in canto 2, the unloving?
@@gneuisisn’t third trumpet a actual Lob Corp Ost with Too Many Trumpets being the IA version
@@Sky_darts it was a misconception sorry chat
give me the ukelele
"In library of ruina, you play as roland" 😬
The important part is that you CAN beat all chapter bosses with just base identity characters (but that's really hard and skill required)
You should be careful when making PM content, even if you just mention it you will get our people to flood the comment section trying to pull everyone who comes across it into this (R-Corp) rabbit hole XD
Anyways, great video, as a launch player I feel like youve explained most of the stuff really on point.
2 things to note though, first, mirror dungeons: once you unlock mirror dungeon hard you will find that while it is one floor longer and indeed harder than its normal counterpart, claiming its rewards will consume all 3 normal mode bonuses as well, meaning you only need to do one MDH run per week for 22.5 BP levels. Ofc you can do additional runs for 3 lvls each but that’s just… not efficient.
Once you are at this point it also doesn’t take long to finish the battle pass and get that sweet 69 crates every week from the MD alone, meaning with dailies you can buy an ID of your choice roughly every 3 weeks.
That’s the reason why players who have played for a certain amount of time mostly just print IDs and save the lunacy for the walpurgisnacht event, where one cannot print the IDs
Secondly the dailies and skip mechanic: while what you said holds true for exp luxcavation and you get 0.75 rewards per module, if you skip thread luxcavation for however often your remaining daily limit is (so 3 or below), you get the same amount of rewards than if you played it 6 times (since after you claimed all daily bonus you only get half rewards). So my and many players go to daily routine is fight the exp lux and skip thread lux 3 times. That way you also get all daily BP quests done.
"you get all daily quests done"
That one mermaid who decides to self-destruct and leaves me at 9/10 even though I specifically ran a team without passive damage: 😈🙏
in this game, you literally can not roll for characters, but complete everything with base characters (including md3h)
Wait what? Chapter 3.5 helps u understand chapter 4 way better, ain’t no way any person interested in the story would skip chapter 3.5😂
Not really, it isn't connected or require you to play it to understand the plot of chapter 4. There is whoever an introduction of a distortion for first time player in which you can just explain it via dialogue. It's a filler episode that I don't mind playing because we are fighting funny chicken head man.
My favorite part is when dante says sinners assemble then vergilius says it's imbussing time
I hope that you'll continue doing the main story even if not for the sake of an another video. For me Limbus really became something I could recommend to someone after experiencing the final part of the 4th chapter as that is when the story becomes absolutely amazing.
The mirror dungeon grind does become less of a hassle as a veteran player because you just have to play through the hard mirror dungeon once a week to sweep about 22 pass levels at once.
I will recomend a playtrought watch, will skip the unecesary grind and hook people more.
Especially as enkhephaline generation is the mayor limiting factor.
I used to play a ton of gachas, and I quit all minus limbus, the reason being the much lower time consumption and grind that limbus requires compared to the other gachas.
So you saying that limbus is a grindy game is so astonishing
But I'm gonna be real, the term grindy here is better put in the aspect of accessing the main content, think about it, you can't rush the main story if your IDs is slightly underleveled and you don't have the patient to make a good team composition. It is grindy, yes, when we talk about accessing the main content that is, not in term of grindy that it makes you waste your time away.
Limbus is basically a full blown strategy game, with the gacha almost being left in the corner I mean if you have enough character shards you can just pick a character Id or ego you want well most of them, the amount of times I needed to rethink how to approach fights were tons, you really need to think about your teams and which ones are the right ones for certain fights, you can’t grind to be so stupidly overpowered, the only way you can be overpowered in way is if you have different teams to counter the different enemies and bosses, as a steam review has said limbus company is a gacha game where the developers have no idea what a gacha game is, and that’s honestly what makes it the best, and to add to it the story is amazing keep in mind that the first three cantos are basically the beginning of the game and basically let’s you experiment and learn the game after that everything steps up, the difficulty becomes much harder, and the story keeps becoming better and better pm can’t stop one upping themselves when it comes with the story.
The thing is once you maxed out the battle pass.
The each level will give you ego shard boxes which you can use to get specific character Shards.
And it gives a load of them.
That's why most people just do the weekly mirror dungeon when they maxed out the battlepass.
i think me and some other people dont quite understand the "coping with the grind" argument at the end. I mean hey you got your own time, but if you wanna finish your daily then it usually takes between 5-10 mins of your day while mirror dungeons you just need to set your pace. The dungeons are not timed for one day and you can start and stop whenever as long as you get what YOU want within a week. IS that too much time out of your day ?(Cuz I've seen worse and more time consuming gacha games with little reward) You are right about sticking around will reward you as you eventually accumulate resources to easily get what you want. In fact, there is a hard mode for mirror dungeons that will accelerate your grind by completing 3 Weekly Bonuses in one run saving more "grind" time.
Yeah I don’t get it
@@LTDLetsPlays what dont you get?
@@darkindragon Pretty sure he's agreeing with OP that he doesn't get why people are complaining about the grind when it is completely optional and out of self violation. If a job only requires 8 hours a day and you work 16 hours because you want overtime bonus, the company isn't considered overworking you, it's your own choice.
"If youre walking in expecting fanservice, youre not gonna get any of it."
Excuse me but being a don quixote fan alone has given me all the fanservice i could possibly need.
Im not just in the red mist don waiting room. I am the pallid whale that absorbed that waiting room.
As ishmael fan, I'm eating so good 😌
I've followed you since the Dead Cells days and I don't watch the gacha stuff because I don't play NIKKE, but now that you have touched Limbus Company, all I have to say is that PLEASE finish and play until Canto 6. It is INSANE as to how ambitious Project Moon is, as both an indie game studio and as a gacha game. I assure you, it is absolutely worth it. Godspeed and good luck with your future endeavors.
Great video. I've been playing Limbus on and off, but recently have been playing it daily again.
On times where I wasn't playing actively, I could just open it up, convert all my energy into boxes and close the game. Sure it was far from efficient, but when I am playing the game again I have a stockpile. For me, this isn't a game I feel like I need to build a perfect account, but I am invested in the story, so when a new chapter comes out this sort of investment works out well.
Side note; once you unlock hard mode for mirror dungeons you can just burn all your bonus weekly rewards at once with one hard mode run.
Exactly, the energy box conversing is smart choice that it makes the dev actually respecting player's time.
34:10 Even though you're forced to play the interlude episodes from past events between main chapters, they tend to be critical to fully understand the story of the following main chapter.
blud chose to stop when we was gonna reach peak project moon
Project moon sleeper agents about to be activated
We already here
The game is friendly to low spenders while generating enough revenue to stay afloat and to save for future projects.
Looks like the studio is fine with having enough instead of trying to mik each last cent from their playerbase.
About the grind, i literally only craft my modules twice a day, skip a exp and thread luxcavation, do a hard dungeon a week and its all there is to it. This approach was enough for me to have all my EGO and IDs at least at uptie 3 and several of them at uptie 4 and keeping almost all of my relevant IDs at the level cap.
One last thing, about the efficiency, sounds like your brain is oretty hard wired by other gachas, you are punished by not min maxing? Technically, yes, but the game is so generous that you dont need to min max, i played since launch, and bought 3 battle pass so far, and despite not min maxing, not finishing all my daily missions and "wasting resources", i got what i said above and almost all IDs and EGOs, you 100% dont need to min max in this game. I would say that the only necessary thing for a satisfatory progression is buying the battle pass and using your mirror dungeon weekly bonus (3 times a normal dungeon or 1 time a hard dungeon)
As rather fresh limbus company player and a fan of project moon games. I enjoyed watching the review. If you are a player that wants to enjoy gacha without having to spend a hefty amount of cash, this is your option. If you're an enjoyer of story and lore instead of fan service, it’s your pick. And lastly, if you're a person looking for a challange and a test of your gameplay comprehension capabilities, look no further than this.
Also upon observation on the grind, I will agree that at first it may seem rather problematic with the skip battle option, but later on you learn that it's pretty easy with you needing to simply use winrate as the enemies don't pose much of a threat when you reach equal level to luxcavation. On top of that, thread luxacavation daily bonus can stack with skip battle bonus making it 2x for 2x, teaching you that you don't need to grind too much and do it as daily checklist.
17:30 They recently did something new to level cap. Your unit levels is capped at level 40 until you reach the current chapter, then your cap will raise to level 45. This is probably done to limit how much you can steamroll the early content with overleveled units.
Sometimes the time is more valuable, I go back and forth between skipping some days and just mashing "win rate" until the boss falls while I pay attention to something else. I'll also say that it's only 25% inefficient as opposed to 50% like you said, and the time saved is ultimately the more valuable thing. It's a bit of an adult choice and I don't think either option is bad. The mirror dungeon grind is very much a real thing though. I don't do it every day, but it can be a bit time consuming, even on a second monitor.
Still, glad you liked the game despite the hurdles.
PM has zero clue how to make a gacha game so they made a fucking masterpiece instead. Thats what happens when your company is solely dedicated to world building and story development
As a prolific gacha gamer, Limbus Company has to be the only gacha game I'd ever recommend to someone who doesn't play gacha games, cause I don't like recommending gambling to people
LETS GOOO LIMBUS COMPANY MENTIONED!!!!
I’m ten minutes in so far and all the explanations are really easy to digest!!
Loving the video!!!!
Bro dropped the game before even getting to the end pf canto 4 💀
Surely not an ideal time to quit
he will never fly with his perfect wings 😞
Just so you know once you unlock Hard version of Mirror dungeon the MD grind becomes much easier, you get an extra bonus and can exhaust all 3 weekly bonuses after just one run, it's harder than base Mirror dungeon but it drastically cuts the MD grind
29:06 It say you get additional 50% not a 0.5 times of a reward.
You are one us now.
PM fans cant read.
This game is sooo generous and low-spender friendly. For me, the gacha aspects are already gone, I just have everything unlocked by just getting the BP and monthly packs, with tons of resources to spare - at this point I'm just getting those monthly packs to support the devs. Really feels more like "subscribe to unlock everything" kind of game.
The game encourages whaling not in the pay to win aspect but through the sheer quality of the game, story, music and company. Project Moon respects their players and community and because of that they created one of the most tight-knit communities I have ever had the pleasure of being apart of. You whale on the game not because ya want all the shineys but because you actually want to support PM or atleast thats how i see it. The later chapters are hands down some of the best story telling in fiction and idc how baised I am but you are REALLY missing out on some of the best story telling period. Project Moon enthralled me into their world with Lobotomy corporation and I have only dug myself deeper with each game and I will proudly stay a Moon Zealot for as long as they stay around. If you do stay with the game I hope you become a fan but if not then thank you anyways for taking a look at our lovely rabbit hole
With how good the story is I wish I can buy the game instead of playing it for free
Been playing since a little beyond launch.
My grind is the daily thread and tickets, and then one Mirror Dungeon Hard every week. Excluding new events/content I'd say I spend about two and a half hours total weekly. I do the EXP daily manually, and then auto the thread since it's a better value, and that takes me like 5 minutes. And the MDH takes a while, but it uses all of my mirror dungeon runs and gives me the rewards from all of them.
Granted, I already have the units to make all of that easier, but once you have a good "ol' reliable" team, you then start playing around with other units and teams, and you get to the point where you're looking forward to trying out dungeon runs with different combinations and team strategies.
Not saying you're wrong or right, but that's just my experience as a player. Oh, and I hope you love Ruina! And if you change your mind and come back to Limbus, then you won't have to worry about FOMO, so...
The title made me think you were dissing on limbus. You get to keep your kneecaps.
Tbh the grind is expected from a PM game, no spoilers for Lobo or Ruina but those have some grindy elements as well and the playerbase knows it. The grind however is always rewarded regardless of which game you're playing as the story, voice acting,artstyle and graphics always tell intresting and immersive stories and you can safely invest in any character and expect a satisfying payback. I've yet to play the game as I really wanted to finish Library before going into Limbus which from what I can tell I'm not too far from completing.
Anyway, thanks for the review and as a PM fan I know I'd 100% buy stuff in Limbus both to support PM and because I know I'll be satisfied with what I get.
The great thing about the Dispensary is that it's both good for new and old players
-New Players: They're able to pick and choose from the large pool of units that they actually want once they get the Egoshards for it from dupes
-Old Players: Except for one specific case, if they already have everything, when something new comes out, they can just dispense it with Egoshards they can easily grind up on instead of spending their lunacy on pulls (Walpurgisnacht is the ONLY banner which you can't do this, so invested players now save their lunacy specifically for this banner)
Edit: Once you unlock Hard Mirror Dungeon you can run this once a week as opposed to doing 3+ mirror dungeon runs, as it lets you redeem all your weekly mirror dungeon bonuses at once, on top of the (minor) hard bonus, which gets you 20+ levels on the BP at once.
29:32 I think you misread it, using skip gives you 50% plus rewards, so for example: instead of getting like, 6 tickets, you get 9, being an additional half of the full base drop into the skipped one
I think he meant, based on efficiency's sake, in which case he would be right since it requires double the modules to do a sweep for an extra50% reward which is a fairly significant hit on efficiency. I don't exactly blame his view on this point since yes, the game technically punishes you for sweeping over manual completion.
@@personno.6.9billionth70 i see, you're right. my apologies as i misunderstood that segment
Ahh limbus, a "gacha" game that is actually a single player game made by passionate devs solely to deliver stories. I highly recommend this game if you're into story games and very much dont recommend it at all if you're just gonna skip the story (because literally everything, including the currencies, gacha, identities, mirror dungeons, are very much canon to the lore)
Obligatory "Day 1 Player here"
Can I try to convince you to finish Canto 4.5?
If no, then I guess it was a good review, although some parts are a little misrepresented... I hope you change your mind someday
If yes then go to the bathroom, grab a snack and hear me out, because I like to write a lot (I have a problem with that XD)...
the grind is not as heavy as you think, and the skip mechanic is not as punishing as it seems
Limbus is as you said, a single player game disguised as a Gacha, and fundamentally, is a game of progression and development
very much like the Sinners, you start in a rough spot: only 1 ID (Shi association Ishmael), without the ability to level up your characters without endlessly repeating the story stages, no easy way to get Lunacy for pulls.... but as you progress, more and more options open up
that is to say: unlocking the Luxcavations and the Mirror is just the tip of the iceberg, the bare minimum... have you wondered why the Mirror locks your IDs at level 40? or why it has a Constellation filled with buffs, not for the characters, but for the Mirror itself?
let’s tackle the Luxcavations and the skip function first, since that is an easy but long answer.
In theory, you only need to do 1 of each luxcavation a day to fill out the dailies for the Battle pass, but as you said there are 3 daily bonuses for the THREAD luxcavation specifically, and not seeing it consumed triggers a sort of OCD... I'm here to tell you, thread is almost meant to be skipped
"but the x0.75 rewards..." no, that doesn't apply in a completionist context... many others already told you in the comments, but because how the daily bonus works, each skip is equivalent to doing a luxcavation twice: once with the bonus active, and once without it, exactly the amount of modules you are paying
this is, at least as of now, encouraged by the game progression, further EXP luxcavations increase the module cost, and with it, the skip cost... but further thread luxcavations do not
at the end skipping thread luxcavations is a matter of cost efficiency rather than time... you can truly maximize the thread you get by running the luxcavation 3 times per day, but the difference is marginal, specially since in theory, the amount of thread you need is WAY less than the amount of EXP tickets you need
regarding the EXP luxcavation, this one really needs only 1 run per day, doing more is almost pointless unless you are grossly underlevel, so the question is why the skip still gives you a 0.25 reward penalty?
Honestly, I don't think it is a "punishing you for taking the easy way out" situation, but more of an "encouraging to DO the EXP lux" and this is needs a bit of context.
originally both Luxcavations had the daily bonus system and no way to skip it BUT ALSO, the EXP lux gave way less in base, with the bonus giving more than what you now can get... after a couple thousand people asked PM to tweak that (grinding the EXP Lux was costly for the rewards it gave, absolutely not worth to do) they added the Skip functionality but also removed the bonus from the EXP lux, increasing the base amount of tickets it gave out. This was during the 1st and 2nd season period, where the level cap was 30-35 respectively and the max Uptie tier was 3...
at this point skipping with the same cost is an option, but then why would you ever play the stage? skipping for a higher cost? why would you ever skip? that is directly punishing... how about skip with high cost BUT equivalent reward? same as the first case... why would you ever even consider playing the stage?? doing a x2 cost, 150% reward is a compromise where skipping gives you comparatively more than the original amount of tickets (pre skip), but also encourages you to actually play the stage... in both cases you are winning because prior to skipping, going ballistic with the grind, expending a high amount of modules gave you a lot less than what you can get now... it fell into the downward spiral of dependency a lot of games in the genre prey upon. It simply felt bad on the long run...
That said, I don't blame ANYONE for believing the skip function is punishing... as I said, the changes on the Luxcavation system happened pretty early on, and a new player only see the downsides of today because they lack the context of the upsides given yesterday.
ok... that was looooong
I went a bit on a tangent there writing the context behind the efficiency... but in short skipping is mostly time efficient and running the EXP lux is mostly cost efficient compared to olden days
Now to tackle the Mirror which is a shorter answer....
It is meant to be done ONCE per week... remember the initial questions I posed? why lvl 40, and why the constellation buffs interact with the Mirror itself?
Because again, Limbus is at it's core, a game of progression
you initially unlock the Mirror at the end of Canto 2, the way it handles rewards (you only pay if you claim) and the fact that levels you up HIGH is because it is a training ground of sorts more than anything. You familiarize yourself with different IDs, try loadouts with gifts that make even the hardest archetype to run, something trivial, and slowly build up your own knowledge of the game as well as the constellation, you grow with the ever present "Hard Mirror" looking at you, waiting...
If you manage to master the Mirror, each run in the base mode can be completed in 20-30 minutes, put them all together and doing the 3 runs each week is about 2 hours of your time.... but that is a lot, no? that is because, the mirror doesn't prepare you to speedrun the base Mirror... the Mirror prepares you for it's Hard version. There, it stops helping you learn, it assumes you already know enough, so it uses your real ID levels, doesn't let you plan in advance what route you go (in exchange makes the shops and rest stops fixed...) and the enemy buffs become a true challenge by Floor 5
The reward? you can only get its rewards once a week, it burns all your remaining weekly bonuses giving you a base of 15 battle pass levels, plus 250 lunacy and 2 and a half extra BP levels per burnt bonus, for a total of 22.5 BP levels and 750 lunacy, all in just one mirror run, no more need to do the Mirror more than once a week once you conquer the hard version... and as you unlock more stars in the constellation, the runs become easier
A full constellation, fully optimized run of the hard mirror should take around 30-45 minutes, which you can cut into bite-size pieces, doing for example just 1 floor everyday or something
My point is... the grind progresses with you: at the beginning you struggle because of the initial tedium, but over time the game itself gives you the tools you need to make things easier and easier
And you could refute me saying the Mirror changes every season, and the starlight buffs are lost, making everything a pain again...
and to that I say... at that point new players will still be learning their part with the base Mirror... and if you have already beaten the Hard Mirror, you should be in a position where it is not really difficult to do it just once a week... the hard mirror even gives you more starlight than the base one, so getting the stars should be easier and faster than your first time with the system
and that is all I have to say about the grind in this game... I could speak about other aspects of it, but well... you see the length
I ask you to play until Canto 4.5: S.E.A. because Canto 4 unlocks the hard mirror, it has a STUNNING dungeon (at the cost of some pacing issues in the normal levels... let's say, fighting an entire terrorist organization means a lot of nobodies along the way) and Canto 4.5 is the last one that uses the same artstyle for the CGs (shit happened, I beg you don't look further onto why is that the case), so you can treat it as a closure of sorts
Sorry for the absolute bible by the way, I just thought I should at least try to explain things and try to convince you to continue with the game.
regardless... thanks for reading if you got here :3
(edit: grammar)
As someone that started around the same time as you, I must say that I had a complete different story with the grind. I found the game so accessible that by the month playing landmark I was almost up to date with the content and I was able to complete refraction railway a little later. Within that same month I maxxed the pass only having to get grindy the last day because I needed 10 levels lol.
I really love how the game is so accessible for new players and easy to enjoy the story with a good challenge
OMG PM MENTIONED LETS GOOOOOO. Glad you took a look at this one man.
Just something to note at 10:17 the buff mentioned is likely due to the characters offence level being higher then the enemy with offence level being the characters level plus or minus a number based on the specific id(the name for alternative versions of the characters) this can range between plus 5 and minus 5 (I think) although I believe for player id’s the lowest it goes is minus 3. The important part is that for every 3 offence levels one target has over the other they get plus 1 class power this is added onto your number after you coins are flipped and only affect clashing not the actual attack after the clash I believe that it also makes you deal more damage but I’m not sure about exact numbers for that anyway hope this small thing might just help and new managers this video might bring in because my gosh these characters and world are amazing library of ruina is easily my favourite game ever and I would highly recommend that to anyone looking for a fun challenge (especially since it’s being released on switch and PS4) so if your interested in a slightly more complex and much tougher version of limbus without Gacha (even lots of fun mods for tons of extra content) I cannot recommend library of ruina enough 11/10 game although I do still recommend limbus too since it is free to play so why not give it a try right (also I’m curious so I’m just gonna leave this here K270714019)
Due to it not really being explained well, you never even noticed the friend systerm and being able to borrow their leveled up characters which can remove the leveling grind
To mention, that's the way you can complete a lot of stages just by running that one friend's op character, like Nclair for Canto 3 that's completely obliterating everyone even when the whole team can't win anything.
It's not even "not really being explained well", it's basically completely unexplained, hell the game doesn't even tell you about the friends/company system
Nclair carried me through canto 5 lmaooo
39:50 all content is permanently available in Limbus as well? There has been absolutely nothing exclusive besides banners since the games launch. All units and E.G.O are available at all times, announcers can be bought with real money if you wish, former Battle Pass items can be sharded completely for free, and no story has ever been time gated. What is your point here?
I just wanted to write this comment to say that it's nice that you enjoyed your time playing Limbus. The main reason I stuck with Limbus is due to the story. Project Moon has been my obsession for the past year and a half, with me jumping into Lobotomy Corporation (and quitting) and Library of Ruina (and almost finishing it) at the beginning launch of Limbus. And the fact you're interested in the story of The City and playing LoR? It makes me happy more people are becoming Project Moon fans!
By the way, here's a nice meme you'll get when you get to the mid-game of LoR:
✨👧❤🔫🔫
I respect the fact that you put the rating in the thumbnail of the video.
“I don’t like the grind in limbus”
Don’t worry man… the pain from library of just as bad.
But I’ve been playing the game for a few months, got around 300-400 hours(?), and need about, 15 ids, and 30-40 EGOs. I’ve spent a good bit of money, and honestly, I love the grind. It’s tons of fun, I love the mirror dungeon grinding and absolutely steam rolling through some bosses, as well as sometimes soloing or duoing bosses. It’s all really fun, but I get not having enough time, it’s entirely fair.
I hope you find your book within the Library though.
@@Niko-os2lq NIKO ONESHOT PLAYS LIMBUS COMPANY???
@@iridescentvermillion everyone plays limbus…
@@Niko-os2lq yes sir glory to limbus company
LIMBUSSY MENTIONED!!!
Anyways, on the topic of the grind. You can only consider it grindy becuz the game lets you grind the hell out of it. The game is nowhere near the lvl of time commitement compared to other gacha games
Dailies only take 15 mins maybe even just 1 mins if you refill and skip(like me). Weeklies only takes 1 hour after you unlock MD hard mode and you dont even need to do it in one sitting
The game has a interesting world and I wouldnt say theres a rush to reach lategame, while every event so far except two required the player to have practically finished the story they dont gatekeep you out of their content with recent events being able to be completed without even playing the event (through MDs)
lads calm down, he wrote this review before canto 6 part 3.
He didn’t even beat Canto IV
Imagine if he finished canto 4, he would never play another gacha game the same again 🗿
The best way to explain how long a single mirror dungeon takes is about 40 minutes atleast when your speeding through it. Use the mirror dungeon to experiment teams and gaining the grinds for more rewards. The game gets harder for players who haven't played early like the moment it was released, I started playing around when season 1 was almost over was out and missing lots of rewards during first season leaving me behind for a bit and didn't complete the first side story. So grinding is really important in experimenting, especially in events. Some ways to get by is to have a friend list. You can use one unit they specifically own and replace one of your ids this helps out and also let's you try out these units almost indefinitely. But yeah for me the fastest I can do a single mirror dungeon is around 40 Minutes, I also just use the skip for exp and thread simply because it's faster and I get 50% extra resources but the cost is so expensive for the exps. Anyway limbus company is free to play friendly but with skill invole, I managed to beat the first 3 chapters with all default sinners no problem, with a bit of grinding sadly didn't finish the first season. GL yall and also love the review.
For the love of god, at least do keep up with the story. I don't care in what form.
And that's because the story is not about tragedies of sinners past. If you look into it, Limbus - and other games from Pmoon - really deliver to you the weight of things that happen on the mind. Stories of characters seemingly drawn from books, end up reflecting certain unnamed feelings that might be stiring, restless, in your heart. Perhaps you relate to feeling of being flaunted as progidy child, only made to accomplish someone else's ambitions, so you find yourself lacking ability to hold any on your own? Maybe you cling to something you know is not right, but you're afraid of having to start from scratch, finding no port on your horizon.
Those are complex, mature tales that you won't find in gacha often, as the gacha domain was made *precisely* for escapism. And i think this exactly is why the game is SO highly regarded, even if it's hard to put its "grim yet uplofting" charm into words.
I have *tried* to play other gacha, precisely after canto 4, when the break between chapters was very long. I did try to enjoy them. I could not.
When what's conidered the "least liked" chapter broke my soul into pieces, showing me one, whose life fell into everlasting lethargy, marasmic from loss and fear, complacent with passiveness and rot, spending days staring into a colourful, glass screen.
And then the screen looked back - at me.
And then i went to play Star Rail, where anime cardboard cutouts of typical archetypes, differenciated nearly solely by colours, squeaked some generic friendship fantasy melodrama. I looked back at PMoon, which very charm lies in reaching out to you, showing you the spine in your heart and saying: "I know. I acknowledge it. But you can face it." Ah, be wary, for this game will flush your heart clean.
This needs to be pinned, this is the one reason I'll never leave the game, the thematic writing in the story is what and will always makes me stay.
And might be the only thing that differs limbus from other gacha game.
Thank you for playing limbus and investing yourself into the universe. As a launch player its nice to see the insights of a player starting a year in. You are right in that the game rewards you for staying with it, as it’s easy to see only a mountain of stuff you don’t have and don’t ever think you can all get when starting not at launch. I know this as I started a second account on steam during season 2 and wow is it easy to see how there is so much you’ve missed out on. As everyone says with time you can obtain everything the longer the game goes on the more time one needs to invest to actually get everything. To me the best change they can make is making season pass ego available from extracting it. At least to my knowledge, pass ego is not obtainable from extraction, which I see as a problem due to ego such as Fluid Sac Faust being so incredibly game changing that it’s almost insulting to lock it behind just ego shards.
When it comes to the grind, once you unlock hard mode and the fusion ego gifts from the dungeon upgrades in only about an hour and a half to two hours you can do only a single run for the entire week and need to do nothing more as hard mode runs consume all remaining weekly bonuses.
One final thing I’d like to note on specifically the grind is that limbus has been consistently improving its grinding aspects, especially its mirror dungeon grind as on launch it was both easy yet boring and you needed to do it like 7 times a week. Then Mirror Dungeon 2, Mirror of Mirrors was revealed and it introduced shops for ego and rest stops and finally hard mode for it which at the cost of difficulty made grinding a lot less grindy and more like actual gameplay. The limbus grind in my opinion, isn’t a grind due to how genuinely fun it is. The stages have meaning and purpose and aren’t just slog fests of the same boring thing.
As a final note in general, time investment and enjoyment are linear. The more time you spend, the more stuff you unlock and the more stuff you unlock the more possibilities for team compositions open up allowing you to make experiment and do more stuff which means more fun. A good example is getting the full blade lineage team going in mirror dungeon hard with all the poise gifts possible. They rip and tear. You got no idea how satisfying having blade lineage Sinclair popping a 300 on the final boss is. Or running a full rupture team on a hard boss and having them just melt once you got your rupture stack going.
Once more, thank you so much for playing limbus and publishing this review of it on CZcams, it’s so wonderful seeing different eyes on this game alongside Project Moon’s other creations. I hope you have a wonderful time with Library of Ruina, as it’s not any easier than limbus.
It's worth noting that for thread luxcivation, because of the daily bonus being multiplied by the 1.5 for skipping, it is more efficient to skip those battles in a thread per module sense.
Legit the best Gacha I’ve ever played and while it is also one of the more harder games out there I would much rather work out a team solution and team comp rather than needing to grind for stupid shit to help me win. Limbus is power to the players but also will fuck you over if you don’t pay attention but there’s nothing better than overcoming the harder fights in this game while I play another Gacha and I can do stuff almost easily or taking time off my life.
You understand Gregor's name is not Gregory, right?
I think it rolls off the tongue pretty nice tho
@@JannetFenix it really doesn't, ymmv
@@motymurm not if you played FNAF: Security breach too much
I have been playing the game since Season 1. N Faust was the latest banner...
I now have irreparable brain damage
Omg you were there for the "I'm dropping this game" post... an ancient soul who knows horrors once privy only to gods, till revealed in a steam game review...
About mirror dungeons. Completion of the hard mode uses up all the weekly bonus of normal mode aswell as +90 battle pass exp, giving you a total of 225 battle pass exp. It is longer and more manual, but it becomes a much more sustainable way to get rewards. Grinding is still optimal after that for boxes, though.
As a gacha game hater I started limbus in the first week after having played Library of Ruina since I loved that game so much, just to see what PM would do. Now I have every ID and EGO and I've been absolutely loving the story, and I only play 1 hard mirror dungeon a week with maybe a few dailies here and there. While I prefer the combat mechanics of Ruina, I was still extremely impressed with limbus and I've been playing since release.
I can see it being hard to catch up on the 3 season's worth of EGO (or more in the future) and the grind can be a bit much until you unlock mirror dungeon hard mode or better dailies that you get later in the story progression. It definetely feels that as long as you are playing once in a while for a couple seasons you will pretty much have everything you want, though. You explained everything pretty well in the video!
37:58 If there is one thing i learned about this game. It's this.
Patience is key. There is no need to be super efficient or to
max out your possible thread/lunacy/module outcome.
Sure it pays out to grind in order to gain access to everything quicker.
But let's be serious.. The story uprades every 4-5 months, while giving
us a couple event storys and boss challanges. So in that regard..
Why do you need to rush so much? Why all that stress?
This constant rush for more lore, more characters and more power is
the reason why most Gacha games have such a strong whale system.
They wanna spent their time wisely with the best meta team and route.
Most end up looking up an guide before leaving the first tutorial town..
Some even delete and reroll their account before they even start out..
Because they heard.. their beginner account is worse than others..
*Sigh* Let me stop here before i start ranting. Anyways what i wanna point
out is that everything in this game is possible with pretty much any setup.
There is DPS checker that blocks your progress until you wait months or
open up your wallet to overcome it. Some battles can be tough.. and...
sometimes your team makes the battle even more difficult.. but as you
said in your video through knowledge it's possible to overcome even that!
(This game is all about your ability to play against or with Luck)
So pls.. Give this game another chance without a 1 month time limit.
I'm sure you will enjoy it a lot more once you do so~ :)
Holy shit its Rhei!
@@makarymetzger2627 Hello~ xD
A great and fair video. I love the game, but I do understand your critiques about the grind. I do hope you’ll look at it again someday when they rectify that issue. PM is really good about responding to feedback; and have shown they aren’t shy about making drastic changes (especially considering the recent UI changes and upcoming mirror dungeon updates).
My other comment got long so instead of adding more I’m just gonna say it here but I absolutely love the sharding feature as even the battle pass ego can be extracted with shards next season ( also for season specific ids they can be sharded after the next season so season 1 and 2 ids can be sharded in season 4 and s3 ids can be shared in season 5) so even if your just joining now it’s not like any ids or ego are inaccessible to players the closest thing are Walpurgisnacht ids and egos which can only be sharded during future Walpurgisnachts but even then if you save some shards for that character then yeah they can be sharded like any other Id/ego. Also mirror dungeon hard only needs to be done 1 a week for full rewards so even if it wasn’t fun it’s is optimal so ye
One of the reason I think the grind is not as bad as people portray it is that you can see the end of it. There's no infinitely scaling RNG equipment or anything of the sort.
Also some details you forgot to mention:
* you can BORROW characters from people in your Friend List. If you're having trouble catching up to the later chapters, borrow a maxed out ID that'll let you power thru the earlier chapters faster. It also serves as a "preview" feature to test characters you don't currently have.
* the Mirror Dungeon grind automatically SCALES your characters to the level cap, only the uptie level matters there, at least in Normal Mode. In Hard Mode, however, it does reflect your current character level.
He lives in my walls. I started limbus company yesterday, and here is a review.
How do you like it so far? PM is an indie company, but as soon as they figure out something is not working, they fix it next.
I came from limbus company and started watching your videos for nikke and this is a crossover i wasnt excepcting but really appreciate
i recognized the soundtrack you used in the intro because i'm literally playing it right now
I don't know how you only got that far in a month. Its fairly simple to start Canto 4 in 5 days or Canto 6 with 1 team in 2 weeks.
Good review otherwise. Even if you don't understand the game yet. It's always good to hear a newcomer's perspective.
300+ hour first month player here
When it comes to weekly patches, PM gives players 300 lunacy, and more for any major issues that require subsequent updates. Each daily lunacy refresh is 26 lunacy at first, and doing this once per day will only cost 182 lunacy. For resource grinding, it is absolutely worth it. You're still in the green, even just from lunacy you didn't work to get. I personally do my dailies in just a few minutes, with a couple thread skips, and 1 exp lux. Its a shame the grind turns off so many people, as canto 5 genuinely has had a deep impact on me, and limbus' story is something I think absolutely no one should miss out on. This review earns my deepest respect.
Best way to describe Limbussy is "The gacha game where the devs pay YOU to use the gacha.". No joke, I used to hate gachas and wasn't a fan of the fact that this game will be one... I still hate gachas, but Limbus is the exception lmao.
Limbus company ruined the word hag for me
Outism strikes again.
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H.H. (Hot Hag)