DEBATE: is True Geordie OVERRATING Alexander Isak? đ€Ż
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 27. 04. 2023
- True Geordie makes a bold statement and compares Newcastle's Alexander Isak to Premier League legend Thierry Henry. Do you agree, and will he go on to be one of the Premier Leagues greatest ever?
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This wouldâve been even worse from me if it was recorded after the run against Everton đ
lol.
This needs revisiting then mateđ
Marvin is salty cos Arsenal were meant to sign him but didn't.
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Think people get confused and think people are saying he is as good as Henry and not has similar qualities to his game
Anybody see that insane run that he had against Everton? It was Henry like for sure. Heâs 23 and he will improve.
look at the defenders though, remember firminos goal against arsenal a few years ago where he just dribbled between the 2 centre backs, it was more bad defending than a good run cus the defenders just dived in and left a gap for them to run in
It's Everton though, that's like playing women
You mean the run that has been replayed literally all day? Yes, we saw it.
@@shaurya890 Careful mate that is kinda harsh on women! If you ignore the obs physical diffs then the average positioning of top women players when defending along with the timing of challenges is actually better than the men's game on average.
@@TwoBlokesOneBall still would back them over the Men if they had even speed/strength....
Ive seen the insane potential of isak since 2018 he just needed that jump to another team and everyone is seeing his crazy potential
Isak is class, I think Marvin's just a bit upset because of Arsenal
man is full of sht, no clue about football, Isak is unreal.
yea understandable lol
Isak was also linked with Arsenal lad year and they couldnât get him
He's an Arsnal fan, so of course he is mentally deficient. I mean, you ever seen 5 seconds of AFTV?
@@sumgai443 100% facts!
He left Everton defence in a mess, that insane run to get the assist was phenomenal.
yeah but anybody can leave everton defence in a mess..... Dyche, Lampard, Benitez
If he'd have got the assist .....
@@dannyb9209 assist in everything but name. He birthed that goal.
@@judyhopps9380 I know mate...I'm just a bitter fpl player who had isak in his team đ
@@dannyb9209 *hug* that would sting then
Not even a newcastle fan, but marvyn blatantly has only just seen isak for the first time, immense talent.
Marv has to get some better takes. Heâs embarrassing to listen to sometimes. Shutting down the argument because youâre too fragile to understand that Isak, Henry and even Zlatan all have the same playing style is PATHETIC.
Heâs not a very knowledgeable fan, donât pay too much attention⊠Iâd have Isak over Jesus in my Arsenal first 11.
Henry and Zlatan do not have the same playing style?
You guys only have a problem because he's black.
@@werewolf1803 what an idiotic comment
@@werewolf1803 The fuck you talking about? Liking your own comment on a very bad take.
I have also followed his career all the way back from his AIK Stockholm debut, and in those first few games for AIK it was pretty clear that he would become something very special. One of the things that always impressed me with Isak is his absolute calmness, it seems like he never gets flustered or overly excited. He seems calm, cool, and collected at all times.
At the end of the Poland vs Sweden was the only time
"One of the things that always impressed me with Isak is his absolute calmness, it seems like he never gets flustered or overly excited."
This. Has also followed him since his AIK days, and my thoughts exactly.
The arrogance of that one Arsenal fan đ One lofty comparison given with intelligent caveats and backed up with facts⊠and heâs all âHow dare you?â Get over yourself, dude. You deserve to bottle trophies for decades if your fan base has that kinda mentality
Laughing too, bro said "win something first"...
He was right tbf. Isak is decent but you canât say a player with 15 games in the prem is better than Toney/Mitrovic. Heâs saying heâs gonna be world class based off of a great run of form
@@bobf1267 Watched both of these guys at Newcastle, Isak is clear of them both. Just watch Isak, drop your ego about your comment and make a neutral comment about how good Isak is.
@@bobf1267 As Brian stated multiple times whilst that salty man child was shouting, his goals to game ratio is second only to Haaland. Itâs his first season. Heâs getting delivery out wide from Murphy. Heâs been injured. You donât know football essentially.
@@tomcowley772 I watch all 3 and am a Liverpool fan so pretty neutral.
As a Swede, it makes me happy hearing englishmen speaking about Alexander Isak and Erling Haaland in such a good manner. Feels nice knowing people from our part of Europe can dominate at the very top of the gameđžđȘđłđŽ
Its mad than the best swedish players, arent actually swedish.
@@lukamarinsek3699 Isak is born in Sweden, has a Swedish citizenship, grew up in Sweden and have gone through the Swedish football system. Heâs definitely Swedish although his ethnicity isnât.
@@danielhakansson1911 I know I know. Its Just funny that IbrahimoviÄ, Larsson and Isak, all have non-swedish roots. All brilliant strikers aswell.
@@lukamarinsek3699 yeah Sweden is more similar to the UK now days in that we have citizens from a wither range of ethnicities
Larssonâs mother is Swedish tho
As an Englishman I absolutely adore Scandinavian culture and natural beauty, I'd love to live out there as I think in general your countries are ran really well and you're well looked after I'd actually say its the best place in the world to live and probably the safest too
Alexander Isak will be a great player, that's no question. As long as Newcastle gets some good playmakers in the summer, he can easily get to 25+ goals in the prem next season.
The Arsenal fan canât accept that heâs better than Jesus and Nketiah!
â@@craig3613 we don't aside from trippier and bruno
If Newcastle can get Maddison who's statistically one of the best play-makers in the prem over the last few seasons he'll provide tons of gilt-edged chances for Isak.
@@DarkArterialGore I'm just not sure where he fits in, we'd have to change the system but I have faith Eddie can adapt.
He can create chances himself as well. No need to get playmakers as a no 10 next to him. Let him drop a bit deeper and watch him cook.
Who is here after he cooked Everton?đ
The video was uploaded 7 hours ago, so everyone is here after the Everton game
As a Madrid fan I have to agree. This guy terrorised us for a couple years. He was very inconsistent for Real but when he was playing at his top level he was one of the best strikers in the league. Cold blooded finisher he never looks stressed or anxious.
WTF? Really? We never been told about this in the Swedish football news. They only cared when he scored.
@@Marcusianery he scored a hattrick to knock Madrid out the cup if I remembered correctly. Won the game on his own and basically scored every shot he took
@@davidbarriuso4707 That is pretty crazy!
Laliga fans can testify to this. Even Barcelona will remember the troubles he caused. He scores from any angle
Gabriel Jesus has got 9 goals in 21 lol
Best comment of them all. The whole debate is whether he would walk into Arsenal's team, and this is the competition.
Jesus provides assists aswell, which Isak has 0 right? Very good player but I think we can make this argument after a full season
@@connor9287 Jesus has 5 assist, isaak was injured most of the season, Darwin Nunez has 3 assist, if your playing striker we will judge you on goals first and assists after and after yesterday he can clearly assist donât be silly
@@connor9287 I think the point is that the argument is valid to debate, whether agreed with or not. It is understandable to disagree, but to actually laugh at the thought like the Arsenal fan does smacks of delusion.
Isak has at least 2 that I can think of and they came in the last 2 games.
Isak is absolutely amazing......I don't know what this guys don't see....this kid is the future......how can a tall player move like that? Madness
He's just jealous you know. He knows he's better than Jesus
Modern day Kanu
Cause heâs skinny
As a barca fan who has been following laliga for quite a few years believe me when I say it he is the real deal.
Yes he really good just the injuries problems
@@tjkong6096 what injuries? He never got injured at Real Sociedad. This season was the first time he had a serious injury.
I do not think he is overrated I watched him a few times at Real Sociedad and I think he is quality that assist against Everton was phenomenal it was henry esque not saying he is on his level I am not dumb but Newcastle have a gem
I have been watching footie for 60 years all over Europe and believe you me this man has got it he will score and he will assist many many times
I can't understand why the Arsenal guy is so annoyed about Isak, don't they were for him in the summers đđđ
I love Isak. I was singing this guys praises almost 3 years ago. He is world class
Ow tf is he world class
If saka odegaard is world class, isak is. I think neither can be considered world class yet.
@@hellohi1445 agree but saka is the closest and with the highest celing
@@samosamocajbe4228 yeh of course but thatâs irrelevant. He Isnât world class yet.
â@@samosamocajbe4228 Isak has a way higher ceiling don't be absurd. Saka is playing to a higher standard this season but there is no way on gods green earth Saka can do some of the things Isak can do. Literally no way.
The great Thierry Henry is my goat, he's the reason I now love this game. What I saw Isak do v Everton on the touch line, I saw the flash of Titi. Nobody is saying he'll be Thierry Henry, but his skillset shows bits of his game. He does wear 14 doesn't he.....
As a swede Iâve been following him for years. Itâs not only form, this is the kind of player he is. I remember when he played here in Sweden, on his 17th birthday he came on against his city rivals and scored two goals in a 3-0 win. He was brilliant on his loan spell at Willem II in the Eredivisie.
As eritrean i agree wiz u bro
Isak is potentially the best player in the world in years to come
First time watching your show, loved it! Going to continue watching. Ps. Looking forward to hearing you discuss that Isak assist against Everton last night. O M G
Everyone will be saying this after next season đŻ
The only reason someone at this point could be doubting Isak is because they simply haven't seen enough of him.
Isak has the potential to be a world class player. He is only 23 years old. Heâs still learning his trade and he already looks breathtakingly brilliant.
That college analogy sent me! @7:04 hahaha
Hope he can stay healthy next season, want to see where Newcastle will be next season with him plus a few more signing, so far most of their signings turn out pretty good
Not a Newcastle big fan, but Guimaraes is world class too
Personally, I canât consider isak world class from an injury ridiculed season. However next season if heâs fit, 20 goals minimum. Thatâs when everyone will call him world class.
And with Bruno thereâs no debate, heâs world class.
Well isak seems definitely better than Jesus and nketia
Declan rice and james ward-prowse would be exceptional signings for Newcastle, guys with the right attitude and improve depth and the first xi.
Love this was recorded before he bent Everton's defence over đ
As an Arsenal fan I see the Thierry Henry in Isak since the Euro 2020. It felt like we really missed an opportunity to sign him in January 2022.
After the everton game, not overrating đ
He cooked Everton and probably sent them to relegation
He did it against a relegation threatened team who have been terrible most of the season heâs a good player but I think people are getting a bit carried away when he played against a team organised like Villa he was non existent.
@@GuitarJammerJohnoh, youâd prefer he did it against a team in the European spots like Spurs? Liverpool? Oh, wait.
@@rossbyrnes1597 Youâve literally named two of the most inconsistent teams Spurs have been awful since Conte left and Liverpool one day are great the next they are awful. Even if they were in the best form having 10 or 11 good games isnât enough he hasnât started half the games this season wait until heâs actually played a whole season before deciding.
@@GuitarJammerJohn yes but by your logic, heâs no good because he didnât do it in one match where Newcastle didnât fire. Short of him pulling Man City apart Iâm not sure what else would be good enough for you.
This fucking vintage Brian, such a throwback vid, I fucking love it đđđđđ
I wanted isak at Liverpool before we got Nunez and gakpo. He suits salah and Diaz way more and can finish which is what Liverpool are lacking!
I love seeing Brian this happy to talk about Newcastle. I was watching when Sunderland beat Newcastle in like six or seven consecutive matches. đđđ
Oh god I worked in Sunderland at that time. Those were dark days.
Guy in yellow just chucking cliches out without any substance. Comes across like he doesnât watch any team other than Arsenal
Yeah he ruined the conversation for me ,clueless prick
West ham fan, Iâve been saying if rice leaves he should go to Newcastle. Play every minute, be a leader and make a big impact (if Newcastle make CL)
I would literally piss myself with excitement if we were to sign rice. Even though we are money mags we don't really spend insane amounts on a single player although for rice I hope they would make an exception.
One thing that impressed me about isak is he never looked stressed
Brian gives this passionate case for Isak and then he goes and creates one of the best asssists i have ever seen
Isak walks into the Arsenal team, remembering they wanted to sign himđ
Exactly bruno too. Sewer grapes that all.
@@bryanscott9686 I wouldn't put him in a already working arsenal side. as the saying goes if the team ain't broken don't fix it. I think bruno would be a great fit though because I think they need some depth in midfield and defence.
as you can see against city. they clearly needed saliba.
@@matthewlaunchbury265 Won 1 out of last 5, Arsenal is very good, but there are cracks, imagine if arsenal had Isak when Jesus was injured
True, I think holding was an awful cb against city. I think when saliba is back they may invest in a new cb and get a new midfielder in too.
As a Swede who watched him every game since Willem II he is a brilliant player and will be class for years to come but i donât think he has 30+ every season potential. He donât have that mindset which Haaland or Lewa has. In Sociedad he also played extremely well for 5 games and then didnât score for a few games.
Yet again Marvin chatting rubbish! :')
i agree with geordie, isak passes the eye test with absolute flying colours. idk about generational + i question if heâs gonna put the numbers in but my goodness what an absolute baller
Iâd love to see Marvinâs reaction to Isak slicing through Evertonâs entire defence like a fucking melon with football genius.
For me the one player who stands out every single time is Bruno I absolutely love him and Willock is a must for the next England squad
Arsenal fans really canât take any criticism
They also can't take points at the Etihad
wasn't even criticism, just comparing couple of aspects of Isak's game to Henry's which regardless of how good Isak is, you can't deny his playing style emulates Henry. Much like say Chris Wood has similar traits to Alan Shearer, can't deny it, doesn't mean anyone is comparing them ability wise.
I Take it This Was Filmed before he tore Everton a New one Especially THAT ASSIST for Murphys Goal Marvin now Bow Down to Isacs Feet
Marvin doesnât know ball
i remember saying the same about jota when he joined liverpool, the fact heâs struggled with injury already is a worry
To be fair he only really had one injury that had a set back, hasn't had many injuries previously, hoping he's not injury prone.
@@dddgtsd ye idk what his injury record is like but itâs rare someone gets injured for a long time then isnât injury prone afterwards, even if itâs just little knocks here and there for a couple weeks at a time
@@timmy5876 his injury record is normal if not better than normal, before NUFC he was never out for more than a month. The thigh injury was a weird one this season, I think he was rushed back a bit, he went away with Sweden and it reoccured I think, so they left him to recover longer than usual what with the previous reoccurence and the WC allowing a nice long break. Nothing to suggest he has a general issue with injuries but you can never tell, any player can pick up a reoccuring issue at some point, his rangey elastic physique must help him avoid injury, he has no muscle on him to injure so it's only his bones we need to worry about ;)
This arsenal fan hasnt got a clue
If someone like Zlatan Ibrahimovic rates Aleksandra Isak highly, than who the heck is Marvin to say otherwise. You have to bare in mind the guy is 23, came into a new country, new culture, new league, at a high fee and got injured which put him out for months yet he came in and banged 10 goals. Give him a proper season with pre-season and then you will see what he is capable off.
As a Liverpool fan I think he has potential to be very very good can't lie đ
Was dissapointed Dortmund didn't negotiate a buy-back clause after we sold him, but in reality he would have likely become our 1st choice ST if not for Haaland and now Moukoko should be heir apparent anyhow. He showed so many flashes of quality, and I'm excited to see him show out in the Prem.
Heâs the future of the premier league
I would 100% put Isak ahead of Jesus. Without a doubt! Ever since Jesus came back it's ruined our flow... I agree with Geordie here.
As an Arsenal fan, Marv is starting to piss me right off... He is so lame, can't kick a ball and also doesn't know ball, clearly...
origi always had a great goals per game ratio for liverpool, that didnât mean he was better than firmino or mane itâs just he went through veins of form where heâd score a lot of goals in a short period
As if youâve compared him to Origi đđđ
@@Kristian-wj9up obviously heâll be a lot better than origi but if u look at all of origis performance the last 2 years at liverpool there was about 15 appearances and 10 goals which is very similar to isak, so where was i wrong?
@@timmy5876 because Isak didnât start 15 games, Heâs had 11 starts and 10 goals. So itâs much better.
@@timmy5876 Origi has 22 goals in 107 games for Liverpool. In his last 2 years at Liverpool, he got 7 goals in 35 appearances, Isak has scored more in the past 2 months for Newcastle than Origi did in his last 2 years at Liverpool.
@@Kristian-wj9up notice i said appearances not starts
Its not just what isak is doing its the way hes doing it
Isak is Amaziiinng- straight up magicđȘ
I have followed Isak since he left AIK and watched as many games as i could with him in Willem, Sociedad and now Newcastle.
Anyways, i think you guys are in for a treat. What you've seen him do in the PL yet is just bits of the genius he has.
he is a freaking looking player..very much like Zlatan..like 6 ft 4 but amazing footwork....Zlatan scored rediculous goals...not a typical tall centre forward...Izak is the same....Henry was the same...very tall but the skills of a smaller player...its strange and amazing to watch....you expect players that tall to be players you cross to to head the ball in but hes not...he takes on like the whole Everton defence in a five yard radious to assist a goal !!
You can't overate Isak, especially considering his age.
Alvarez and Haaland are both younger than him. And better.
@@TP-pq9xx Haaland obs Alvarez NO. Alvarez is a very good young player but Isak has far more variation to his game (especially going forward) I think it's fair to say that Isak has the potential to be like a Zlatan or Henry as a player and I can see him scoring over 30 goals a season while Alvarez might be more like a Jesus as a dynamic attacker with maybe better pressing/defensive workrate.
â@@charliebrett2432 Variation? Alvarez has already played 5 different roles for City this season. He can fit into midfield or as a second or lone striker, or on either wing. Jesus is about as good as Alvarez defensively but Alvarez is many levels above him in finishing. He's got 7 goals in 7 starts, and could also easily score 30 in a season if he was City's main striker.
@@TP-pq9xx easily score 30? What while even Aguero didnât do that? Behave đ
@@TP-pq9xx I meant the variation in goals that Isak can score compared to Alvarez. E.g arial ability etc
I've followed Isak since his AIK days in Stockholm and have always believed he has what it takes to be a big player. I'll go further than Brian and say I believe he'll be a Balon d'Or winner eventually.
When sir Bobby had us in the champions league we played people like Aaron Hughes and Andy o Brian in the team haha
Marvin doesnât know anything about football. Isak is a more gifted football than Jesus is. Dubbed as a wonderkid since he signed with Dortmund many years ago. Obviously injuries had set him back bout a few years, but letâs be real without those setbacks heâd be one of the best strikers in Europe. He is on his way there right now and I fully agree with Geordie.
brian you didn't invent the Henry comparison. it's clear to anyone who watches him. I share the hype. He is next level.
Good to see your not getting carried away
Isak easily gets into Arsenal's team at this moment. Don't see it happening but would love for United to go all out and sign him over the rumored transfers of Kane and Osimhen.
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Ashley has long gone. Money mags don't require man u money. They have more than all the premier league owners combined. Newcastles days of selling their best players are long gone. Think before you embarrass yourself with comments like that one.
@@v4vendetta237 isn't embarrassing at all. That's why I said go all out for him. Never said go get a steal. Talent like Isak is worth spending on. Everybody has a price anyways. Sure he'd rather play for a big club than to stay playing alongside Anthony Gordon.
@@v4vendetta237 I'm neutral here, but I'd honestly rather see him at a top club. I don't trust Newcastle to build around him and get the right players to surround him with to realize his full potential. They will mismanage and waste his career just like Spurs did with Kane.
in your dreams. Listen, I don't think you have any idea when folk say we're the richest club in the world, exactly what that means mate. Put it this way, one set of our part owners, the Reuben Brothers is worth ÂŁ19 Billion which would, alone, make us the richest club in the PL (Europe even) . We were regularly in Europe under the Halls, only 14 years of our match day revenue being pocketed by the fat controller took our potential away, now we're back &, once these players get the taste of being backed by such passionate , 100%, supporters, they don't want to go anywhere else. You manure fans will learn respect, the hard way !
Not over bigging Isak. Honestly, Isak's goals are a treat to watch with what we have in NUFC. No disrespect our midfields but if Isak has KDB, Silva etc lol...But Wilock has a few sublime assists so far.
Papis cisse ball was just hitting him and going in are you sure you watching the right players because I can remember him scoring the best goal I've ever seen still to this day
Cisse was scoring wonder goals but everything he hit turned to gold, his all round game wasn't amazing and whilst we all knew he was a potential goal machine, he never showed the all around attributes Isak has. Once teams worked Cisse out he struggled, bloke could not stay onside lol!
I remember watching him when he was linked with arsenal and thinking he reminded me of kanu
Isak has massive potential itâs not the first time heâs done a run like that against Everton clear talent for a big lad with his feet and decent strike on him think under right management heâll reach top level
3:57 Iâm a Newcastle fan but putting Phillips on that list is just wrong. Heâs one of 10 players to get 30 PL goals in a season and he did that playing for Sunderland. He didnât quite hit 100 PL goals but only 34 player have done that. Just for balance I hate Kevin Phillips broke my heart in the rain.
Toon fan here who has a guilty love for Phillips, as a kid I used to think he looked so bloody cool and it pissed me off he was so good and playing for the Mackems.
Isak to Newcastle has to be the most mind blowing transfer of all time. After his performance in the 2020 euros everyone wanted to sign the guy, heâs been linked to every squad and Newcastle managed to pinched that signing. Heâs had injuries but without them heâd have insane figures
Yeah got heaps of potential and even now looks amazing consistency over a long period required please
From this day I'm formaly a True Geordie fan, after this preach about Isak, đđ€
quality timing just after his performance last night
whey not after last night
Imagine if we go and get thuram on a free, milinkovic savic from lazio for the quoted 40m and some better options at cb and lb as well as a winger like diaby, realitically we could get those signings and i think it would set us up well for next season if we pull of champions league football, what a time to be a toon fan, isak is a baller
Isak is going to world class
Sorry but don't blame Marvin for his delusions, his Arsenal have just lost the title and it's already hurting đ
Newcastle will be fine. Eddie Howe used to control games and play high possession football at Bournemouth. Why won't he able to replicate it at Newcastle where he can get a few better technical players allowing him to fluidly switch between high pressing quick football and slow possession football if he just makes the right signings. A Milinkovic-Savic would be good or a Alexis MacAllister? Maybe Gundogan or Busquets for a season while investing a lot in the academy breeding another talent in a few years
The most impressive thing to me is on top of the talent Isak works so fuckin hard. This is what will drive him on to be truely world class!
my favourite thing about him is how cool and calm he is, nothing phases him. That sort of attitude is great for strikers cos you just know when he misses he isn't worrying. Wilson has that arrogance too so it's good to see them both on form.
@@dddgtsd Speaking of arrogance, knowing Ibrahimovic has bigged him up in the past you kinda know he must have something about him!
Brian decided to wake up and speak straight FACTS, he is class!
Marvin doesnât know much about football unfortunately, heâs a guy who uses statistics to fill in that huge gap. Alexander Isak is unbelievable!
Marv is actually clueless
Bro I agree with you on Isak but allow doing my guy P Cisse like that his first 14 games were diffrent level and got merked by Pardew and a Casino but was Class
As an arsenal fan Alexander Isak is the real deal whoever that brother is in the yellow shirt is clueless
It was clear Marvin's ball knowledge is lacking when he said we should sign JWP.
Arsenal fan annoyed arsenal didnât sign isak who they were linked to for 6 months
Marv was unbearable in this episode was the negative odd one out when it came to anything non arsenal
The answer to the question is no, Isak is really that guy, arsenal shouldâve triggered that release clause when we had the chance đą
Isak is the truth. Only 23 and has already dunked on Real Madrid (twice), Barcelona (twice), Athletico Madrid, Liverpool, Ajax and SpursâŠ
He's right though and it's funny, the media is unaware of how good he is, he's going to shock alot of people.
If Isak gets injury resistant he can compete with Haaland in coming seasons.
Zzz no need for that
That Marv guy has clearly never even watched Isak
Isak is absolutely amazing I know him so I'm following you keep up bro
Isak is so clearly 3rd best striker in the prem this season obv not numbers due to injury
Missed a 1v1 Vs Palace at SJP when he tried to chip the keeper haha but other than that heâs been sensational. Loving the energy from Brian đ
Only the mighty Vicente Guaita who drinks Paella could deny this monstrosity đŽđ”đŠ
No overreaction.
Isak is just a sick footballer, he showed it on his debut when VAR robbed him of a perfectly good winning goal.
Canât have a cartel club lose at home.
And thatâs such a lazy reply to âWhatâs wrong with Isak?â Everything? Is that guy blind