In this video we review the Panzer Arms BP-12 Bullpup Shotgun! If you're looking for a great, affordable, home defense shotgun, then this is the video for you!
I have mine setup like yours. I have a red laser on the side but I also have a red dot sight with flip up sights that co witness with the red dot. The last thing I did was added a sling. Love it.
@@TheDeltaDefensive I have the Dickinson ranger. Only paid $270 for it. Cheap price but not a cheap gun. I locked the bolt back for 1 month before taking it out to break it in. There was no break in. It just worked.
@@bigbadjohnpesek9894 Same here, I read someone else saying they locked the bolt back & I did it for a month as well w/out having a breaking period! I think that's the key w/the bullpens. I have a panzer gen 2 bullpup & I love it!
Sir best review of this gun ever you should be a sales person because you have just convinced me to buy one with all the rounds you put through it did it have a lot of hiccups or did it run smooth if you have the time can you please do a follow-up video of how reliable it's been
I noticed a couple of improvements you could make if you decide to edit your Video: 1) the overall Length of the BP-12 is 30.7" versus 24" and 2) the Chokes are I, III, and IIIII (1, 3, and 5) which correspond to Full (I), Modified (III), and Cylinder (IIIII). The Cylinder Choke comes installed and will take anything. Some folks state that you can use any of these Chokes unless you are shooting Slugs then avoid the Full Choke; other folks state that any of these Chokes are fine with Slugs. If you modify your Video, you may want to caution folks that the new Gen 2's (which I coin as Gen 2+) come with staking Allen screws/bolts that lock the Barrel/Castle Nut to the Upper Receiver - these must be removed before removing the Barrel/Castle Nut otherwise you'll strip the nut.
Benelli pump with extended tube magazine for HD, I have the BP12 second generation, cool gun, but due to the risk inherent to box fed mags deforming shells over time and causing feed issues, I don't feel trusting it for HD is something I could be comfortable with..
Best video so far on explanations. I have a Hunt Group FD12. the manual for it is non existent so this helped with the high and low velocity gas block mentioning.
Did you know these bullpups fit in tennis racket bags like they were made for it. Plus they have extra pockets for mags or tools or whatever. They make for the perfect bugout bag.
I have one. My only caveat is that it is heavy. Shoots well. I also have 2 ten round mags for mine. You can get a 25 round drum mag for it but I think it would get in the way
Just bought this yesterday and a box of ammo think I got the wrong ammo kinda scared to use it. Mine came with 3 chokes 1,3,5. Ammo I got is 3" 1 1/4 Oz 1515 fps. I am an AR guy I've always hated shot guns till I seen this gun so anything you can tell me please do I prefer to have all the info before I fire this thing.
Great video, however, I was hoping you'd cover disassembly because my Panzer Arms BP-12 is now essentially a "box of parts". It turns out, the box my BP-12 came in indicates it is a Gen 2 but it is not, it is either a Gen 3 prototype or a Gen 2 refurbed/modified. Here's the scoop, I was disassembling the gun following all the directions that I could find on CZcams and in the Owner's Manual. When I got to the 2nd Castle Nut that holds the Upper Receiver and Barrel together, it was very snug/tight but at least one video I watched warned of this. Turns out, the snug/tight fit wasn't because that was normal, it was because Panzer Arms (or somebody in Refurb) added an Allen screw/bolt on the bottom of the Receiver which locked the Castle Nut in-place. I had no idea this was the case because none of the videos, write-ups, or manual ever even hint of this Modification. Not only that, I found there were actually two Allen screws/bolts in the same hole - one must have been broken off and was holding onto the Castle Nut; the 2nd one was screwed in directly behind the broken off Allen screw/bolt. I contacted Palmetto State Armory and asked them to resolve but they stated "All Sales are Final". Their Customer Service Rep (who obviously knows nothing about Firearms) told me that I should not disassemble the gun because that would void the Manufacturer's Warranty. Now what I have is a "box of parts". Not impressed with Palmetto State Armory at all. I sent off an email to Panzer Arms a couple days ago (no phone number available) but haven't heard back from them. I'm so upset that I was shipped a modified/undocumented firearm that is now worthless. PS: I also purchased the Panzer Arms AR-12 and attempted to disassemble it, when I got to the 2nd Castle Nut, I did a thorough inspection to make sure there wasn't any hidden mods like Allen screw/bolt and there wasn't. I then used the supplied Arbors wrench and used a fair amount of pressure trying to get the Castle Nut to break free - instead, the Arbor wrench tooth broke off and the Castle Nut never budged. I'm starting to think they are having problems in this area and have tried everything in their power (Allen screw/bolt & Red loctite) to keep the 2nd Castle Nut in-place. As a result, it is impossible to thoroughly clean the bolt and rails.
I broke down to clean and now I have a piece that I don't see how to put it back in. It has H.V. Imprinted on it. Says it is the gas regulation button but I can't find the spot I took it out from. What am I missing? Thanks
pretty much the same, the egx has a 18.5" barrel, but the egx has a button to go between high and low velocity for the gas system, and it can also be used on the left or right side. oh, and the egx has a QD socket on the back of the stock
Is this a gen 1? I just bought one used and I didn't have a separate piston for high capacity. But I think gen 2 is possibly different. How can I tell?
To be completely honest with you, I only have experience with the Gen2, so I wouldn’t be able to tell you the differences at this time. I do know that the Gen1 looks slightly different from the Gen2, but I will look into it and get back to you tomorrow afternoon though! Since you bought it used it’s possible that the previous owner misplaced the high velocity gas block. To check, if you take the shotgun apart to clean it, if the gas block is the high velocity one, it will have “H.V.” Engraved into it. If not, then it’s your standard velocity gas block
@@TheDeltaDefensive Awesome. When I go to clean it I will check. Yeah I did look around a bunch online and couldn't find the Info so this really helps. 🤜
Bird shot dosent run well out of the box. I have had several of these. It will run heavy loads flawless out of the box, just store it with the bolt open for a month or 2 and it will chew up any 12g ammo.
@c.h.u.d That’s one way of doing it, yep! The springs on these come very tight and sometimes won’t allow the shell to eject fully. So giving it a proper break in by using 300 rounds is one method, or just storing it with an open bolt is another!
MUST BE MADE IN THE SAME FACTORY AS MY ATI. I HAVE THE 20GA. I GOT MINE FOR HOME DEFENSE AS WELL. THE 20GA DOES NOT HAVE MUCH OF A KICK AND IS NOT LOUD. THE RECOIL IS WHY I WENT WITH THE 20GA. I DON'T FEEL I LOSS BUT A NANA SECOND OF SPEED OR POWER VS THE 12GA. I HAVE SHOT SLUG, BUCKSHOT, AND BIRD SHOT THROUGH MINE, NO PROBLEM.
I have mine setup like yours. I have a red laser on the side but I also have a red dot sight with flip up sights that co witness with the red dot. The last thing I did was added a sling. Love it.
I have a bullpup 12 gauge too. Love it. Best home defence gun you can get.
Awesome! Which one do you have?
@@TheDeltaDefensive I have the Dickinson ranger. Only paid $270 for it. Cheap price but not a cheap gun. I locked the bolt back for 1 month before taking it out to break it in. There was no break in. It just worked.
@@bigbadjohnpesek9894 Same here, I read someone else saying they locked the bolt back & I did it for a month as well w/out having a breaking period! I think that's the key w/the bullpens. I have a panzer gen 2 bullpup & I love it!
@@mtboney2283 my wife just bought me a second one for my birthday. She bought the century arms centurion. Got the bolt locked back on it right now.
Good stuff Delta
Great review! I'm new to the semi auto shotgun world, but I love my panzer bp12 gen 2 bullpup! I've got a vertical grip now, it's great!
My son and my wife are getting me a tokarev 12 gauge bullpup for my birthday. I'll have two bullpup.
Sir best review of this gun ever you should be a sales person because you have just convinced me to buy one with all the rounds you put through it did it have a lot of hiccups or did it run smooth if you have the time can you please do a follow-up video of how reliable it's been
I noticed a couple of improvements you could make if you decide to edit your Video: 1) the overall Length of the BP-12 is 30.7" versus 24" and 2) the Chokes are I, III, and IIIII (1, 3, and 5) which correspond to Full (I), Modified (III), and Cylinder (IIIII). The Cylinder Choke comes installed and will take anything. Some folks state that you can use any of these Chokes unless you are shooting Slugs then avoid the Full Choke; other folks state that any of these Chokes are fine with Slugs. If you modify your Video, you may want to caution folks that the new Gen 2's (which I coin as Gen 2+) come with staking Allen screws/bolts that lock the Barrel/Castle Nut to the Upper Receiver - these must be removed before removing the Barrel/Castle Nut otherwise you'll strip the nut.
Benelli pump with extended tube magazine for HD, I have the BP12 second generation, cool gun, but due to the risk inherent to box fed mags deforming shells over time and causing feed issues, I don't feel trusting it for HD is something I could be comfortable with..
I have eg240 and this one you showing love both but heavy but also reliable
Best video so far on explanations. I have a Hunt Group FD12. the manual for it is non existent so this helped with the high and low velocity gas block mentioning.
I’m glad I was able to help a little!
Did you know these bullpups fit in tennis racket bags like they were made for it. Plus they have extra pockets for mags or tools or whatever. They make for the perfect bugout bag.
Great video Alex. Can you include a link or description to the laser and light setup you are running please. Thanks, Alex
I have the bp12 gen 1 and everybody puts bp12 but they don't put G2 on the title, so I start watching and then I realize that's not the G1.
can you make a video on disassembly and cleaning?
I have one. My only caveat is that it is heavy. Shoots well. I also have 2 ten round mags for mine. You can get a 25 round drum mag for it but I think it would get in the way
How heavy you reckon with full clip ? Starting to consider getting one of these someday especially because it's ambidextrous.
Just bought this yesterday and a box of ammo think I got the wrong ammo kinda scared to use it. Mine came with 3 chokes 1,3,5. Ammo I got is 3" 1 1/4 Oz 1515 fps. I am an AR guy I've always hated shot guns till I seen this gun so anything you can tell me please do I prefer to have all the info before I fire this thing.
Which choke are using for the slugs? It comes with three...
Great video, however, I was hoping you'd cover disassembly because my Panzer Arms BP-12 is now essentially a "box of parts". It turns out, the box my BP-12 came in indicates it is a Gen 2 but it is not, it is either a Gen 3 prototype or a Gen 2 refurbed/modified. Here's the scoop, I was disassembling the gun following all the directions that I could find on CZcams and in the Owner's Manual. When I got to the 2nd Castle Nut that holds the Upper Receiver and Barrel together, it was very snug/tight but at least one video I watched warned of this. Turns out, the snug/tight fit wasn't because that was normal, it was because Panzer Arms (or somebody in Refurb) added an Allen screw/bolt on the bottom of the Receiver which locked the Castle Nut in-place. I had no idea this was the case because none of the videos, write-ups, or manual ever even hint of this Modification. Not only that, I found there were actually two Allen screws/bolts in the same hole - one must have been broken off and was holding onto the Castle Nut; the 2nd one was screwed in directly behind the broken off Allen screw/bolt. I contacted Palmetto State Armory and asked them to resolve but they stated "All Sales are Final". Their Customer Service Rep (who obviously knows nothing about Firearms) told me that I should not disassemble the gun because that would void the Manufacturer's Warranty. Now what I have is a "box of parts". Not impressed with Palmetto State Armory at all. I sent off an email to Panzer Arms a couple days ago (no phone number available) but haven't heard back from them. I'm so upset that I was shipped a modified/undocumented firearm that is now worthless. PS: I also purchased the Panzer Arms AR-12 and attempted to disassemble it, when I got to the 2nd Castle Nut, I did a thorough inspection to make sure there wasn't any hidden mods like Allen screw/bolt and there wasn't. I then used the supplied Arbors wrench and used a fair amount of pressure trying to get the Castle Nut to break free - instead, the Arbor wrench tooth broke off and the Castle Nut never budged. I'm starting to think they are having problems in this area and have tried everything in their power (Allen screw/bolt & Red loctite) to keep the 2nd Castle Nut in-place. As a result, it is impossible to thoroughly clean the bolt and rails.
God, Guns & Diapers? Still trying to figure that one out.
Show me a video where it cycles low brass "anything"
I broke down to clean and now I have a piece that I don't see how to put it back in. It has H.V. Imprinted on it. Says it is the gas regulation button but I can't find the spot I took it out from. What am I missing? Thanks
should fit in a port just above the angled foregrip
Do you know if the five slots directly above the charging handle on each side are M-lok? I was thinking of getting some M-lok covers to plug those up
How does this compare to the Panzer EGX500?
pretty much the same, the egx has a 18.5" barrel, but the egx has a button to go between high and low velocity for the gas system, and it can also be used on the left or right side. oh, and the egx has a QD socket on the back of the stock
Is this a gen 1? I just bought one used and I didn't have a separate piston for high capacity. But I think gen 2 is possibly different.
How can I tell?
To be completely honest with you, I only have experience with the Gen2, so I wouldn’t be able to tell you the differences at this time. I do know that the Gen1 looks slightly different from the Gen2, but I will look into it and get back to you tomorrow afternoon though!
Since you bought it used it’s possible that the previous owner misplaced the high velocity gas block. To check, if you take the shotgun apart to clean it, if the gas block is the high velocity one, it will have “H.V.” Engraved into it. If not, then it’s your standard velocity gas block
@@TheDeltaDefensive Awesome. When I go to clean it I will check. Yeah I did look around a bunch online and couldn't find the Info so this really helps. 🤜
where did you purchase the barrel shroud???
It comes pre-installed from the factory!
Where can i get one
Bird shot dosent run well out of the box. I have had several of these. It will run heavy loads flawless out of the box, just store it with the bolt open for a month or 2 and it will chew up any 12g ammo.
Why store with the bolt open?.does it loosen the spring?
@c.h.u.d That’s one way of doing it, yep! The springs on these come very tight and sometimes won’t allow the shell to eject fully. So giving it a proper break in by using 300 rounds is one method, or just storing it with an open bolt is another!
@@TheDeltaDefensive that mkes sense thanks
MUST BE MADE IN THE SAME FACTORY AS MY ATI. I HAVE THE 20GA. I GOT MINE FOR HOME DEFENSE AS WELL. THE 20GA DOES NOT HAVE MUCH OF A KICK AND IS NOT LOUD. THE RECOIL IS WHY I WENT WITH THE 20GA. I DON'T FEEL I LOSS BUT A NANA SECOND OF SPEED OR POWER VS THE 12GA. I HAVE SHOT SLUG, BUCKSHOT, AND BIRD SHOT THROUGH MINE, NO PROBLEM.
Cycling issues?
None at all!
I’ve had none in 3 years
If I’m shooting slugs and bird shot can I pull my gas pin out