Awesome review! How does this compare to the SW15? Drastic difference in terms of output? Sealed vs ported make a difference to articulation and speed? Want to see if the extra $ is worth it 😊
yes it has MUCH more output and low end but it also depends on your room. In my large open basement, the ported one is a much better fit but I am testing both for a review and was able to integrate 2 ported and 2 sealed pretty nicely considering the challenged of ported and no ported due to phase.
@@briancardsfan No, sealed in all circumstances digs deeper than ported. Ported is just louder down to port tuning. Its a common misconception. On HUGE ported subs you can find some tuned down to under 20hz, but its uncommon. But under port tuning sealed will always reign supreme. You see lots of ported out there when folks are chasing DBs. Thats why single subwoofer systems are very often ported. Cause folks want it loud at the expense of low bass.
So if I have a budget of $1500 for a Home Theater subwoofer, should I do two of the SW15P, or a single amp from Hsu (VTF-15H) or Monolith? If the answer is two of the SW15P, how hard is it to set up a two-sub system? I’ve never done it, but my understanding is that my Denon X3800h can do it without a separate DSP, I just don’t know how to go about setting that up…
If you aren't going to spend any more money then probably the SW15P. If you can buy the HSU and then a 2nd down the line that might be useful. Of course you could have 4 SW15 P at that point. Which is a huge amount of bass.
Only 100dB I guess that’s why it’s cheaper. When I built my ht subwoofer, my target was 120dB at 20Hz. I think that’s what’s needed for the movie theater type excitement and sound quality
Compression isn't a metric used by other subs so we can only wonder how it compares. Why not use the CEA standards? It's competitor is Hsu VTF-3- same price and per CEA and databass it's over 119db across the low bass freqs outdoors, imagine what it'd do in your basement.
For a large room thats 650 SF (6,300 cubic feet) and you were buying FOUR Starkes for a living room home theater setup with Dirac Bass Control would u go SEALED or PORTED?
If I had the money I would probably go with the ported. If you have space constraints or want to shave a little off the price go with the sealed. Both are solid solutions. The ported will have more output.
@jilesMcCoy Love your content, Love the Build videos and Comparison videos alike. I need to Add another Subwoofer to my System and for $1000 USD the Dual SW15's seem hard to beat in regards to output. For a $1000 (+/- 200$) what do you think the best subwoofer (Either buy or Build) is, in your opinion? I saw your Video on the Stereo Integrity build, Those seem pretty cool too.
@@JilesMcCoyin your experience which one has better bass in music and movies if you only have 1 rsl 12s and 1 sw15? I have bose accoustimass (i know its not for audiophile) but that is what i have. I just want to add another sub in my system if that is possible.
@@loooga18 - You can't go wrong with either choice. Is your preference for subwoofer sound a sealed enclosure, or ported? Only you can answer that question. Also, is space a concern, cosmetics, features, price, etc. Make a ✔️ List of things that are important to you, and rank them in order of importance. My only suggestion/opinion is because you have smaller bose acoustimass speakers, i would get the Stark Sounds SW15, as i like the smooth response of a sealed enclosure, as it transitions into the midbass. Which ever has more points that you value, is your winner! You wont be disappointed either way. Hope this helps!?
Gerard Stroh!!! Hi Jiles McCoy**** I Re-Did My Subwoofer Speakers Setup!!! First I Had 2 Jamo C912 Subwoofers But They are 70 Watts & 200 Peak power and Then Last Month I Got 2 Polk Audio HTS 12 inch Subs and They are 200 Watts RMS and 400 Watts Peak Power and They Sounded Good But I want to Step it Up Bigtime So I Took My 21 inch Dayton Audo 2,000 Watt Vortex Subwoofer From My Garage and Hooked it Up to My High Powered QSC 2450a Poweramp and Bridged it to 2400 Watts and it Sounded Awesome and I Step up the Game I Have A Behringer 18 inch Subwoofer Cabinet and I went to Parts Express and Ordered the Dayton Audio 18 inch Ultramax 18 inch Subwoofer Speaker and Hooked it up to another QSC 2450a Poweramp and Bridge that amp Too so my 2 Big Subwoofers are Putting out 5,000 Watts of infransonic Bass!!! Not Dunn Yet Jiles McCoy I Have 2 DBX DriveRack Pa2 Speaker DSP Speaker Manament Processors and I Took The Second One and First I Made A 31 Band EQ Curved on the Stereo input Then I Fine Tune the Big Subs With an 8 band Parametric EQ on the First Left and Right Output and the Hz are 20 + 21 + 22 + 23 + 25 + 30 + 35 + 40 Hz and The other Stereo Outputs I Just Have The Same Main 31 Band and This Unit Has A 3 Way Crossover That You Can Program and This Unit Has Left & Right XLR Balance inputs and 3 Sets of XLR Balance Line Outputs and These Cost Me $1200 Dollars for Both and When I Did Parametric EQ Boost I use A Narrow Q Band and + 3 DB Boost and it Sounds Awesome and I Have Giantic Double Wide Coffin Size Subwoofers each one has an 18 inch Peavey Low Rider 800 Watt 18 inch Subwoofer Speaker Driver and the 18 in the other Box is A Peavey Low Max 18 Subwoofer Speaker is A 1200 Watt Subwoofer Speaker and The Box is 5 Feet Wide and 4 Feet High and 2 Feet Deep and These Speaker Boxes The Infransonic Bass Goes Down to 7Hz and I Have A Peavey GPS 1500 Watt Poweramp Made By Crest Audio and I Have 2 Blutooth Transmitter and Reciever and I am Going To Tap off of one of the Subwoofer Outputs and Just Have it on Low Valume and The Transmitter and Reciever Can Transmitt Over 100 Feet and I Just Have to Open The Small Garage Door Leading into the House!!!! I Have All the Surround Speakers and Dolby atmos Speakers Running and I Have 2 Center Speakers Running on Seperect Poweramps and one is A Polk Audio Center Channel Speaker and I Have A Bigger Center Channel with A Big Horn Driver with 4 6 1/2 inch Mid Woofers and I am Using A Stereo 31 Band Behringer EQ and Using QSC CX302 Poweramp For The Bigger Center Channel Speaker and The Polk Audio Center Channel Speaker Is Being Powered By A QSC 850 Poweramp at 8 ohms and It Sounds Awesome and I almost Forgot I am using A Denon AVR-X3600h for My Home Theater Part and the Frontstage is Hookup to A Tascam M-2516 16 channel Mixer So I have Full Control Because I Use That Mixer For My Computer and My 2 Turntables and The Mixer is Preset For Home Theater and The Left Side of the Mixer is Set For My Stereo and I Use Seperet outputs for My Main Stereo Signal and I Use My Aux Sends to My Subwoofer Signal and It Works Great*** I also Use My First DBX DriveRack Speaker Processor For My Main Stereo EQ and I Have Presets for My Music and Home Theater and I Do the Same Thing For My Subwoofer Speaker Signal Too!!! I Use A Sony 4K UBP-X800m2 4K Blu-Ray Player so Thats My Small Home Theater Untill I Get A Place of my Own!!!! My Home Theater is 7.4.6 Because I use 6 Subwoofer Speakers and If I Run those 2 Coffin Size 18 Subs in the Garage it Will Be 8 Subs But I Don't Need Those on Because I Get Wall Shaking Bass Now!!!! It is Awesome Jiles McCoy!!! Bye From Gerard Stroh!!!
They are really close when it comes to to output. I think the Starke looks a little better. The Speedwoofer has the different dsp modes if you need that. The Starke has XLR inputs. Speedwoofer comes in white and black. Really a toss up.
@@chebrubin My point was, I dont get what you mean by programmed because unless you correctly setup the delay in each specific room, you may as well just use a y splitter. lol
I have a pair out for delivery today! Can’t wait! 🎉
Thats awesome!!! Jealous!
Nice review seems like Starke is really on their job. I have 4 of the older sealed 15s and I love them!
4 of those 15s is baller!!!!
Awesome review! How does this compare to the SW15? Drastic difference in terms of output? Sealed vs ported make a difference to articulation and speed? Want to see if the extra $ is worth it 😊
yes it has MUCH more output and low end but it also depends on your room. In my large open basement, the ported one is a much better fit but I am testing both for a review and was able to integrate 2 ported and 2 sealed pretty nicely considering the challenged of ported and no ported due to phase.
Is the driver more beefy than the stamp steel driver from the SW-15
The ported has more output for sure. The sealed goes a bit deeper.
Kinda weird that the sealed digs deeper, right?@@JilesMcCoy
@@briancardsfan No, sealed in all circumstances digs deeper than ported. Ported is just louder down to port tuning. Its a common misconception. On HUGE ported subs you can find some tuned down to under 20hz, but its uncommon. But under port tuning sealed will always reign supreme. You see lots of ported out there when folks are chasing DBs. Thats why single subwoofer systems are very often ported. Cause folks want it loud at the expense of low bass.
Yep definitely wanna see a comparison against the SW15.
The Ported one surely has a good amount of more output and grunt. I am testing both right now for a review myself.
@@gabrieltechreviews8185 does it as low as the SW15
Thanks for watching!
So if I have a budget of $1500 for a Home Theater subwoofer, should I do two of the SW15P, or a single amp from Hsu (VTF-15H) or Monolith?
If the answer is two of the SW15P, how hard is it to set up a two-sub system? I’ve never done it, but my understanding is that my Denon X3800h can do it without a separate DSP, I just don’t know how to go about setting that up…
If you aren't going to spend any more money then probably the SW15P. If you can buy the HSU and then a 2nd down the line that might be useful. Of course you could have 4 SW15 P at that point. Which is a huge amount of bass.
How does this compare to the klipsch RP-1400sw or the RP-1600
Never heard those. Would love to compare. C’mon Klipsch, let’s do this!
How does this compare to your dual SQL 15's?
Dual DIY SQL 15s with a huge 10k watt amp are in a different class. And a different cost class too.
Only 100dB I guess that’s why it’s cheaper. When I built my ht subwoofer, my target was 120dB at 20Hz. I think that’s what’s needed for the movie theater type excitement and sound quality
What did you build?
Hi Jiles. is this raw measurement? the frequency response looks like a room curve is being applied.
There is no EQ. Only the room is impacting the sound. So there is some room gain at play here.
Compression isn't a metric used by other subs so we can only wonder how it compares. Why not use the CEA standards? It's competitor is Hsu VTF-3- same price and per CEA and databass it's over 119db across the low bass freqs outdoors, imagine what it'd do in your basement.
Because I don't have a baseball field in my back yard :-) I'll use compression with the HSU too :-)
For a large room thats 650 SF (6,300 cubic feet) and you were buying FOUR Starkes for a living room home theater setup with Dirac Bass Control would u go SEALED or PORTED?
If I had the money I would probably go with the ported. If you have space constraints or want to shave a little off the price go with the sealed. Both are solid solutions. The ported will have more output.
I love Ed your videos could you please do a training video on how to use REW on a MacBook?
If someone sends me a MacBook I will!
@jilesMcCoy Love your content, Love the Build videos and Comparison videos alike. I need to Add another Subwoofer to my System and for $1000 USD the Dual SW15's seem hard to beat in regards to output. For a $1000 (+/- 200$) what do you think the best subwoofer (Either buy or Build) is, in your opinion? I saw your Video on the Stereo Integrity build, Those seem pretty cool too.
Honestly the best subwoofer in the 1000 range are two sw15.
@@JilesMcCoyin your experience which one has better bass in music and movies if you only have 1 rsl 12s and 1 sw15? I have bose accoustimass (i know its not for audiophile) but that is what i have. I just want to add another sub in my system if that is possible.
@@loooga18 - You can't go wrong with either choice. Is your preference for subwoofer sound a sealed enclosure, or ported? Only you can answer that question. Also, is space a concern, cosmetics, features, price, etc. Make a ✔️ List of things that are important to you, and rank them in order of importance. My only suggestion/opinion is because you have smaller bose acoustimass speakers, i would get the Stark Sounds SW15, as i like the smooth response of a sealed enclosure, as it transitions into the midbass. Which ever has more points that you value, is your winner! You wont be disappointed either way. Hope this helps!?
What is it compared to the sealed, believe I remember about 10db less at 20hq
Im not sure off the top of my head.
Gerard Stroh!!!
Hi Jiles McCoy****
I Re-Did My Subwoofer Speakers Setup!!!
First I Had 2 Jamo C912 Subwoofers But They are 70 Watts & 200 Peak power and Then Last Month I Got 2 Polk Audio HTS 12 inch Subs and They are 200 Watts RMS and 400 Watts Peak Power and They Sounded Good But I want to Step it Up Bigtime So I Took My 21 inch Dayton Audo 2,000 Watt Vortex Subwoofer From My Garage and Hooked it Up to My High Powered QSC 2450a Poweramp and Bridged it to 2400 Watts and it Sounded Awesome and I Step up the Game I Have A Behringer 18 inch Subwoofer Cabinet and I went to Parts Express and Ordered the Dayton Audio 18 inch Ultramax 18 inch Subwoofer Speaker and Hooked it up to another QSC 2450a Poweramp and Bridge that amp Too so my 2 Big Subwoofers are Putting out 5,000 Watts of infransonic Bass!!! Not Dunn Yet Jiles McCoy I Have 2 DBX DriveRack Pa2 Speaker DSP Speaker Manament Processors and I Took The Second One and First I Made A 31 Band EQ Curved on the Stereo input Then I Fine Tune the Big Subs With an 8 band Parametric EQ on the First Left and Right Output and the Hz are 20 + 21 + 22 + 23 + 25 + 30 + 35 + 40 Hz and The other Stereo Outputs I Just Have The Same Main 31 Band and This Unit Has A 3 Way Crossover That You Can Program and This Unit Has Left & Right XLR Balance inputs and 3 Sets of XLR Balance Line Outputs and These Cost Me $1200 Dollars for Both and When I Did Parametric EQ Boost I use A Narrow Q Band and + 3 DB Boost and it Sounds Awesome and I Have Giantic Double Wide Coffin Size Subwoofers each one has an 18 inch Peavey Low Rider 800 Watt 18 inch Subwoofer Speaker Driver and the 18 in the other Box is A Peavey Low Max 18 Subwoofer Speaker is A 1200 Watt Subwoofer Speaker and The Box is 5 Feet Wide and 4 Feet High and 2 Feet Deep and These Speaker Boxes The Infransonic Bass Goes Down to 7Hz and I Have A Peavey GPS 1500 Watt Poweramp Made By Crest Audio and I Have 2 Blutooth Transmitter and Reciever and I am Going To Tap off of one of the Subwoofer Outputs and Just Have it on Low Valume and The Transmitter and Reciever Can Transmitt Over 100 Feet and I Just Have to Open The Small Garage Door Leading into the House!!!!
I Have All the Surround Speakers and Dolby atmos Speakers Running and I Have 2 Center Speakers Running on Seperect Poweramps and one is A Polk Audio Center Channel Speaker and I Have A Bigger Center Channel with A Big Horn Driver with 4 6 1/2 inch Mid Woofers and I am Using A Stereo 31 Band Behringer EQ and Using QSC CX302 Poweramp For The Bigger Center Channel Speaker and The Polk Audio Center Channel Speaker Is Being Powered By A QSC 850 Poweramp at 8 ohms and It Sounds Awesome and I almost Forgot I am using A Denon AVR-X3600h for My Home Theater Part and the Frontstage is Hookup to A Tascam M-2516 16 channel Mixer So I have Full Control Because I Use That Mixer For My Computer and My 2 Turntables and The Mixer is Preset For Home Theater and The Left Side of the Mixer is Set For My Stereo and I Use Seperet outputs for My Main Stereo Signal and I Use My Aux Sends to My Subwoofer Signal and It Works Great***
I also Use My First DBX DriveRack Speaker Processor For My Main Stereo EQ and I Have Presets for My Music and Home Theater and I Do the Same Thing For My Subwoofer Speaker Signal Too!!!
I Use A Sony 4K UBP-X800m2 4K Blu-Ray Player so Thats My Small Home Theater Untill I Get A Place of my Own!!!!
My Home Theater is 7.4.6 Because I use 6 Subwoofer Speakers and If I Run those 2 Coffin Size 18 Subs in the Garage it Will Be 8 Subs But I Don't Need Those on Because I Get Wall Shaking Bass Now!!!!
It is Awesome Jiles McCoy!!!
Bye From Gerard Stroh!!!
Thanks for watching!
How does it compare to the rsl speedwoofer 12s . Same price and same power 25 watt different not a big deal.
They are really close when it comes to to output. I think the Starke looks a little better. The Speedwoofer has the different dsp modes if you need that. The Starke has XLR inputs. Speedwoofer comes in white and black. Really a toss up.
Well I tested on 12S but it has an issue so I am waiting for a new one before I can be sure how they compare.
@@gabrieltechreviews8185so, how do they compare?
Starke Sound should sell a Mini DSP bundle with the BOGO programmed for taking 1 LFE into 2 x outputs.
the problem is, you will still need REW and a mic to properly adjust delays etc for each specific room.
@gabrieltechreviews8185 not a problem. Sounds like a opportunity for the best quality XLR subwoofers in the biz.
@@chebrubin My point was, I dont get what you mean by programmed because unless you correctly setup the delay in each specific room, you may as well just use a y splitter. lol
Thanks for watching!
How does this compare to a SVS PB3000/4000?
I’ve never measured a 3000/4000 before so not sure.
Wow you have not compared the RP 1600 and you haven't compared an SVS I'm assuming you're just now starting out😊