Jonny Wilkinson: Winning The World Cup Led To My Darkest Days | E131
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
- Jonny Wilkinson is one of the most famous rugby players of all time. With a career spanning two decades, he has won the rugby World Cup, the Premiership, the Heineken Cup, the Six Nations, and the Top 14.
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0:00 Intro
01:06 What shaped you into who you are
16:24 Going in search of your identity
23:22 Is your mindset now conducive of a world cup champion
29:40 Your mental health after the World Cup drop goal
43:29 How does someone become all they can be
54:01 Was winning the World Cup really your goal?
58:05 What impact has being open and honest had on your life?
01:05:34 Your mental health journey
01:11:18 Are you happy?
01:15:55 Your partner
01:18:02 Your drink - Number 1 Living
01:27:15 Being introspective
01:32:15 The last guest question
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Wow 🤯 Jonny's mindset is like nothing i've heard before, thank you Jonny for sharing your wisdom 🙏🏽..... hit like and subscribe for a new episode every Monday and Thursday
Loving the podcasts. Please interview Dr Robert Morse. He will blow your mind. The greatest healer of our time.
amazing interview! Would love to see tyson fury on this
There must have been times Stephen just switched off listening to Jonny. Way too intense and most of what he says doesn’t even make sense, just lots of words put together in an odd way.
i didn't expect that from a Wilkinson interview, what a spiritual journey there ! "there is no consequence in the Now, cause there's no Then, there is just Now", "there is no Me trying to achieve something, there is just a full experience of now."
Jonny’s Rugby career is not spoken about enough. He was the David Beckham of Rugby. One of the all time greats, his ability to control a game was incredible
Beckham was not an all time great of football.
Lol David Beckham isn’t anywhere near an all time great.
Steven, thank you for having Jonny as a guest. I'm on a bit of a journey at the moment and you are both very inspiring people. What Jonny said about regret is a goal of mine - I currently have many but need to put them in the box marked "experience", instead. It's actually really difficult, but there are a few in there now. Thank you for all you do, you're helping this frightened part-time artist towards his ultimate goal of becoming a confident full-time artist and I appreciate you for it.
So many of these podcasts bring you down to earth. No amount of fame or money brings happiness. Your wealth is your loved ones and the days you spend together. We have become so lost in what success means in life. Far to many people trade fast cars and nice watches for memories with loved ones.
We're not here for long, choose wisely.💙
love thank thank you 🙏🏽
Love this. It's so simple but means everything.
That why Jesus Christ come to give eternal life this world will pass and every thing in it one day we each will give account of our life here on earth Jean 3 16.
Genuinely one of the most inspirational podcasts I think I've ever watched. Jonny has a fascinating mind, and is reinforcing ideas that I have had but haven't fully yet been able to iterate. This was unbelievably helpful.
to be lifted to the heights that Johnny was so young and then just dropped seems merciless and brutal. The man has had to do an incredible amount of work to come to terms with his life and develop new pathways. A great interview.
Best podcast I have ever listened to . Thank you ❤✨️
Jonny's greatest achievement (in my opinion... tongue in cheek) is going to Toulon and being loved by French fans - as an Englishmen. He would do all his interviews in French and you can't put a price of soaking up the culture and having a rugby dynasty built around you. Changed rugby holistically. When you consider he had to call his mum when he first went to the supermarket to ask if he needed his passport to pay - You can't help but have a rye smile. What a man, what a rugby player and what a great mind. Thanks Steven, loved this.
I very much enjoyed this. Many years ago I worked within rugby as nutritionist here in Ireland. I had the opportunity to attend the lions camp in Wales. It must have been 2009. Normally there is a skittishness amongst the seriousness. The Irish lads all joking was I spying on them. I noticed Johnny outside in the gardens. Alone. Him and a rugby ball weaving around the hotel flower beds. I noticed him. He appeared different. Deep thinking. Gosh I would have loved to have talked. I very much admire and respect his mind. Wonderful podcast. Resonates deeply. Not easy to share these deep inner thoughts but it shines a light for others. Thank you.
What did you see and learn in that camp? Just wondering as I'm a big fan of rugby
@@marcusboxall7383 gosh it is so long ago! ok my observations. firstly as a 5ft 2 female that was similar to their age at the time these lads have HUGE energy that they and many around them probably don't understand. If i was back working in this field now i would encourage the lads to learn to understand their energy and from here the power that this energy has. both ON and OFF the pitches. Its a force. ive actually frozen solid giving my own team a lecture (munster rugby) which was the biggest most mortifying experience of my professional life. their energy is just enormous. it was like a wall of energy dressed in red team kit lol coming at me and i froze. ridiculous but i am very sensitive to stuff like this. secondly, they are very much constantly told what to do. be her, be there, dress in this kit, eat this... just constantly TOLD. So many of them used humour a lot in the team room. to my peril lol. I think finding identity in yourself and as the team athlete probably very important here too. At the end of the day they rocked at sport and as athletes, life is probably way more complex. and the stronger lads all generally had amazing wives and partners... that saying is true... there will be a strong woman there in the background believeing in them and enabling them to just get on with the training. (or partner). so funny enough it is the life stuff that strikes out in my memory and i only wish i has more balls myself to speak up and support them better and believe in myself more even though i was only their nutritionist. not sure that helps!! they are human after all. and it was an honour to work in rugby for those 4 golden years i had with munster rugby.
Massive rugby fan but found this one pretty tough to listen to. Jonny on a whole different level of mindset and view on life. No doubt he was one of the most focused players ever tho and world class 👏
This is my favorite guest you have managed to get on the podcast so far Steven.
I have always been a massive fan of Jonny Wilkinson.
It is fascinating to hear Jonny talk about what it was like performing at the highest level of the sporting world.
Thank you very much for uploading this episode, Steven.
Continued good wishes to you and your team.
Thanks for sharing Jonathan, glad you enjoyed 🙏🏽
Jonny was on a completely different level when it came to rugby. He was in the age group above me for Hampshire juniors and he would stay behind after training for a hours kicking goals over the posts whilst we all went home for Sunday lunch.
Matt Dawson doesn't get enough credit for "that" moment!
Fascinating conversation & thought processes from Mr Wilkinson. He was always way too hard on himself & hearing him go into the details behind some of that is both humanising & upsetting.
Thank you Mr Bartlett and your team for bringing amazing guests to the podcast. Thank you Mr Wilkinson , for sharing your life journey and inspiring me in many ways to reevaluate my self & my outlook. Brilliant 🙌
What a legend! 🏉 🏆
I will never forget “that” kick! 😊 😂
On a deeper level, it’s amazing how he perceives his experience and his perception of timing.
Thoughts I’ve often pondered quite deeply and that has helped me become truly self-aware.
Live your life well people.
I’ll never forget as a 10 year old waking up early and sitting in front of the tv in my underwear watching him win the World Cup with THAT kick. One of the most iconic English sporting moments.
I found it very interesting to find out a lot more about him.
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Complex....Loved trying to figure his thoughts out. Unbelievable sportsman. Now I know his mindset from setting the rugby ball up, picturing the start and finish point of the goal. Intriguing and thought provoking. 🙌
Always love Jonny Wilkinson as he is. Thanks for the wisdom! God bless you and your family! ❤
Wow. So much food for thought. Two inspirational humans having such a profound conversation, thank you. 💚
Hi Steven! You are very inspirational and I think you will literally take over the world. You are so smart, talented, good looking and have amazing interview/questioning skills. I can't believe how young you are and the success you've achieved.. you are an inspiration to us young people because your success gives us the confidence to achieve our potential and make us believe that anything is possible. Thank you for your videos and just your presence really!!
It was so on time for me... I have been discussing this mindset with someone and I've been struggling to grasp it and let go of past thought ideas...Jonny explain exactly how I have felt and the interal conflicts challenges 👌🏾. I'm going to have to watch it again and literally take notes, so that I can just pause..think through some things and move on ... this is so key and on point for my now! Even the health, the food discussion..I'm literally studying nutrition currently, do that I can work in holistc Nutrition as my own business...Thank you thank you thank you! Sometimes yes you definitely think your crazy...then along comes this video to reassure you...keep going don't conform to the "old tracks"! 👌🏾👏🏿💫
One of the wisest people I can remember listening to. To allow is to be in flow, to connect truthfully, and live fully. Interesting how letting go can improve wellbeing (and probably performance, although that isn’t the goal). Allowing is key to be all that you are. Inspirational
What a conversation!! "If I want freedom in the future, I have to free up the past and therefore regret has to take a sideline on the bench" 😀 This was liberation from the trappings of our finite minds and limited conditioning of society. Thankyou Steven for gifting us with these beautiful conversations!
Excellent from Johnny
My sporting hero when I was younger even more of fan of his being so open about his struggles
The most beautiful, inspiring, and stopping in your tracks conversation ever
Much love & respect to the man xxxx
Love the variety of perspectives on here and appreciate the regular uploads!
🙏🏽 thanks Aaliyah, glad you're enjoying them
Firstly what a guest ! Secondly what a podcast !! And finally what a compassionate and respectful Host !!!! Bravo 👏
🙏🏽 Thank you so much
This is so deep thank you I know what he’s talking about how depression is when you want to before depressive happens go back to when you was happy and find that happiness again the identity before first depression episode happens.
Jonny The GOAT 🐐
After reading his autobiography, this is as good as another book. Thank you
Yesss Steve! I’ve been waiting for this for ages, checking everyday like a mad man 😂… thank you for this!
let me know what you think scott!
I really appreciate the amount of hard work, effort, dedication and consistency shown by you and your team, thank you 🙏 listening to your podcasts every week on my way to and from work has really reduced my morning anxiety. They keep getting better and better, and I’m truly grateful to be able to listen to them.
Thank you for sharing 🙏🏽
I remember how much of an icon Jonny was growing up, very good podcast.
Wow. He encapsulates everything I am working to get closer to in my journey. A well rounded, incredibly in-depth, sensitive and vulnerable but clear minded man. Brilliant podcast. Thanks Steve and team.
Thank you 🙏🏽
Is he clear minded? He might have clear values and clear goals, but definitely doesn’t come across clear minded
Surprising and brilliant!
We are all the same and we are all connected 💙 wonderful conversation.
It’s the adventure and it’s always NOW.
Grateful 🙏🏻
@@oliviapodmore1021 straight back at you 😁🙏🏻
Get Peter, your fellow dragon on the show, Steven! Would be so interesting.
I'm going to have to watch this again because I know I didn't take it all in to its full capacity. Deep.
This is f*cking brilliant! I'd love to ask him a few questions as I'm a deaf footballer who plays for England deaf football team and the Great Britain deaf football team. I'd like to see how his mindset before the match and how to approach the game tactic without worrying about all the coaches think of me pre-match, during the match and post-match.
I'd definitely re-watch this interview and will write some notes. 10 minutes is a good place to start.
First time I watched this podcast I thought Jonny would be an awesome guest. Loved what he said about memory vs the past. So inspiring and great interview 👏
Thanks Candice!
Happiness is a feeling/emotion which u have at fleeting times, jus like sadness or feeling low…..
Being contented is the key✌🏽
Such an incredible and deep dive into the mind of Jonny. My first sporting hero. As someone who has struggled with my mental health after losing my dad when I was a kid and sport being my main release but found other aspects of my life unenjoyable and feared everyday activities. I have been on a long journey of acceptance and letting go myslef and hearing from Jonny his own path the mental freedom has been incredibly helpful and insightful.
Thanks for your honest, open and touching podcast. Brilliant stuff from you Steven!
Thanks for sharing Adam!
great video -as usual
“Those who have a strong sense of love and belonging have the courage to be imperfect.”-Brené Brown
She isn’t close in energy to this man. Why put her here?
Loving these podcasts and the insights and perspectives of your guests. This one definitely resonated with me with plenty of food for thought. Please keep these podcasts coming.
Thank you so much 🙏🏽
Did not expect him to speak like a guru 😮 wow
Jonny wilkinson = someone who makes the world better for just being himself
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Jonny is deep!! Hope you find your peace Jonny!
Thank you guys amazing podcast. 👏
You can carry your past or you can move on. No in between.
Another great chat, very mindful.
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What an interesting guy love how much deeper he has looked into things his articulation is on point and is explained in a way that doesn’t sound as woowoo that most people poo poo really great interviewer Steven loving your podcast watch every episode 🧠♥️
Enjoyed this one, with Wilko you have to listen a few times, in part, because every listen provides a new insight into the way of thinking, but also at times you’re thinking ‘What?’ 😱😀. Thanks for bringing this one out Steven.
Glad you enjoyed it Kevin!
The answer to the last question was very insightful.
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That was deep. I need to get deeper !! Great conversation 😉
For all his chat, JW still sounds like he’s still an achievement junkie. Life isn’t a constant to-do list. Humanity is not “being the best” over and over. He’s like all the joy has been wrung out of him through his constant obsession with accomplishment
Incredibly thought provoking
At the beginning of nurture is nature
The guests you're getting on here are next level. Changing the podcast game!
thanks Freddie!
Yes yes yes, this is how I feel about life, living in the now
Great podcast. Divine Plan Aligned I AM/WE ARE!
A complicated and conflicted character...I really hope that he finds and maintains inner peace. Probably my favorite English player of his generation.
Always liked Jonny top bloke , we all have different definitions of success👍
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Im really enjoying your interviews 👍
thanks Dan!
This is a great watch
I'll never forget that world Cup Johnny was Electric. Great guy hope they make a film about him.
Even as a Kiwi can respect this dudes level on the rugby field. Was a metronome with his kicking and tackling. Easily top 2 first five of all time (behind DC of course :-D)
I'm British and I second that. DC was a beast.
Surely you’ll be investing into No.1 Living as the connection between you guys was easy to see, not just your background and experience of health drinks with Huel. Can’t wait for the collab.
I've always wondered about the 'success' of major sports stars. It must be weird to reach the pinnacle in your early to mid 20s and then never have anything else match that high for the rest of your life. Your playing career lasts 15 years if you're lucky. Then what? Sure many then go into coaching or media etc, but nothing ever replaces that buzz of being on the pitch/court.
The Edge cricket film is another great example of that and watching the aftermath of great sucess
That's why so much greats downfall into drug addiction. They aren't taught how to deal with retirement and need to find that buzz again.
Check out the high performance podcast, people from all sorts of sports. Fascinating
I think it’s the same for many entertainers as well. I mean how many pop stars have huge success in their mid 20s before drifting into obscurity.
@@waynew5089 Yeah one of my fav podcasts!! Johnny Wilkinson was great on that too!
I served Jonny many years ago when I worked for a well known sports company. We were gifting him items and I was struggling to pack it all. He didn’t bat an eyelid came round the counter and helped me pack everything and still said thank you after. Even though he did most of the work Lol such a lovely man.
20:43 totally relate. it's realizing that unconciously your "inner child/self" is holding onto an interweaved sense of security that is consolidated from a framework of insecurities. the answer to this is not becoming aware of every insecurity at once. but in accepting, trusting, and promising your younger self that you will take it along this journey of life and with it seek to animate those insecurities to integrate it into a higher sense of self and who "you" truly are - that's what it means to live in "good faith" and the function of "tell the truth," as Dr. Peterson may put it.
Fabulous episode.
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Well done
Great interview 👍
🙏🏽 Thank you!
Johnny🔥🔥🔥
Hi Steven, thank you for being inspirational, especially as I'm also a black man striving to continually better myself.
I have a question for you, if I may? What are your views of CBD and Propananol to maximise your ability to work efficiently and deal with stress? I ask because you said in the 2nd season that we are the 'burnout generation' because we have optimised our ability to work more via increasing our ability to multi-task. Do you think supplements is key to us being that generation?
so interesting.
I would love to hear a podcast or an interview with someone regarding the property market, what they think is going to happen will prices drop? Like a young family like myself with a big deposit doesn’t even get close to buying a property they supposed to be affordable house still being 250+, from covid people putting there houses on the market for such un affordable prices, opinions on what’s happening, what to do and opinions
I don't know why, but almost emptiness, loneliness, and crisis, were experienced by people who already have the top of their lives. I think something is missing in our life. So what's the point of reaching the top if what we get is emptiness, and loneliness?
I will NEVER forget THAT kick in 2003
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A chat between Jonny and Jordan Peterson would be amazing.
Great guess though felt a heavy theme
a smart bloke.
Thanks for another great episode Steve. It sounds cheesy, but this really brightens up my Monday morning, so thank you again and keep up the great content 🙌
Thanks for listening Chris 🙏🏽 Appreciate you!
Two voices.............If I ever write a book this will definitely be its title.
His Councillor session notes must make interesting reading...
Fkn legend 💪🏾
Being a intellectual deep thinker can bring someone so much angst. Some of the "dumbest" people I know are so happy.
The last 7 podcasts have all focused on mindset and mental health. This podcast is beginning to seem more like The Diary of a Therapist.
Stephen have you got any plans to have uk rappers on? Or just rappers in general?
My guest for Thursdays episode is a legend in the space 👀
@@TheDiaryOfACEO thank you for all these podcasts genuinely I feel like your changing my outlook on life 👊🏻 thank you mate 🙌🏻
Interesting
Wake up Monday. Shower. Check CZcams upload 🤟🏿
Jonny Wilkinson would of been a great fighter if he would of gone down that line. Absolute warrior
Would HAVE!!!!!!!!
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Thanks for another fantastic guest Stephen!
It would be ace if you could get Tyson Fury on the show when he is not actively fighting. I know Tyson has told his story to lots of people but you seem to get the extra layer from your guests.
Wow ♾️
Makes you realise people you put on a pedestal growing up have the same demons as everyone else. glad he wasn't in his peak during the social media craze as it might have driven him away from bring the nation together. regardless, what a mind, man and player he is/was.
Steven mate, try get on KSI! Thatd be huge
Love your podcast normally, and I love JW but turned this off after 20 mins. Thought it was dull. Think you should have started with his 'story' first.
Interview liver king please!
Enough.
That’s what I took from this.
You, me, I, we’re enough.