Why Wrath of the Lich King Was The Best

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  • Asmongold Reacts to WotLK Classic WoW: Why Wrath of the Lich King was the best expansion.
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Komentáře • 496

  • @nailfelagund7508
    @nailfelagund7508 Před rokem +315

    I loved the original Warcraft 3 and Arthas' storyline. Nostalgia hits hard, man.

    • @AngeloC1988
      @AngeloC1988 Před rokem +21

      Exactly, also because it feels like it wasn’t written by 15 yo sjw’s

    • @christianstephan7301
      @christianstephan7301 Před rokem +5

      @@AngeloC1988 why would you bring up SJW out of nowhere?
      It was simply a good story written due to the compelling rise and fall of a hero, where his fall into madness turned the story around really strongly to give us a feeling of "wait - things are worse now than before, aren't they?"
      This creates a great point of reflection for the players to ask themselves if they could have done it better. It's hard to say where really the first mistake of Arthas lies. The character was damn well crafted - even though it used a well known story classic of "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely".

    • @Thalaranthey
      @Thalaranthey Před rokem +13

      @@christianstephan7301 cause pandering is more importnant than storytelling lately and it defenitely shows in quality of plot everywhere, wow included

    • @nergallstrief5825
      @nergallstrief5825 Před rokem

      yes

    • @SevenHunnid
      @SevenHunnid Před rokem

      I do food videos while high af on my CZcams channel. I’m more raw & authentic than most on here ☝️😂

  • @brandonlewis3379
    @brandonlewis3379 Před rokem +13

    Arthas was to wow as Bowser was to Mario, Dr. Willy to Megaman, Dr. Robotnik to Sonic a legend in the making and one that will never be forgotten.

  • @Zerosenpai25
    @Zerosenpai25 Před rokem +113

    I never played wow but from what I'm seeing it feels like wrath of the lich king was the climax of the story at that time like infinity war/endgame was for the marvel movies

    • @scuffedjays3862
      @scuffedjays3862 Před rokem +22

      Yup you are exactly right. It was the finale to what blizz built up since Warcraft 1.

    • @Ecliptor.
      @Ecliptor. Před rokem +8

      I'm gonna be honest, no one at the time of playing gave 2 shits about the story. Most of the players never cared too much about the lore. I play since original TBC, around the black temple patch.
      The lore is cool enough, don't get me wrong, but the gameplay used to trap you enough that lore didn't matter.

    • @betorockmetal
      @betorockmetal Před rokem

      @@scuffedjays3862 Warcraft 3 my friend, not 1. Warcraft 1 was just about the first invasion of orcs into Azeroth.

    • @christiferharrison7795
      @christiferharrison7795 Před rokem +1

      to be honest, they should have dropped WoW 2 after LK, but they kept riding the train. I guess i can't blame them, they made billions

    • @Powerhaus88
      @Powerhaus88 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Ecliptor. I'm exactly the opposite.

  • @jorath9644
    @jorath9644 Před rokem +119

    for me wc3 tft and wotlk were super intertwined - i loved tft and when wotlk came out, i felt like a childrens dream come true

    • @betorockmetal
      @betorockmetal Před rokem

      To me Reign of Chaos was the most important part of Warcraft 3 and the most interesting and fun to play but I get most people would say "The Frozen Throne" (TFT) just for the sake of the Lich King.
      I didn't like The Frozen Throne campaigns as much as I liked Reign of Chaos campaigns.
      Having to play the nagas and uknown races or units in the latest levels of the human campaign was one of the most UNPLEASANT things to do in TFT.
      The only good part of The Frozen Throne was Arthas becoming the Lich King and his duel with Illidan, that's all.
      Maiev arc sucks, Kael'Thas was interesting but he ended up being Illidan's servant and a loser. Nagas were boring creatures.
      And Orcs were completely ABSENT from the expansion... WHY???
      That's why I'll always stick with Reign of Chaos for it's better gameplay, levels, story and character's design.
      But if we talk about World of Warcraft then yeah, Wrath of the Lich King was one of the best expansions, indeed.
      And that's just my humble opinion.

    • @jock4551
      @jock4551 Před rokem

      Ah yes the famous warcraft 3 teamfight tactics

    • @rafabar6652
      @rafabar6652 Před rokem

      @@betorockmetal I agree with every word you said. I didn't like Frozen Throne either. Well, I liked that you can get more into Illidan's story, but that was it.

  • @Cerms
    @Cerms Před rokem +117

    WOTLK was the best for me because it was still a sequel to Warcraft 3 frozen throne, just like TBC was with Reign of Chaos. Was great for someone who was very invested in the lore back then as a kid. Cata and onwards have been newly generated stories from previous mentions or side quests in WC3. There are still great expansions post wotlk like MoP and Legion, and some alright expansions like early cata and late bfa. But I wasn't as invested in it as I was in the earlier years. And it doesn't help when they start to retcon their old lore to make the new lore work. How they favor and disrespect some characters as story writers (sylvanas having a murderous rage Legion > Shadowlands and then get a free redemption) and (blizzard bringing back arthas in sanctum and sepulcher) spitting on him one last time. He should have been put to rest in the afterlives bastion cinematic (an amazing cinematic) after Uther drops him into the maw. No redemption is needed to finish a character in the lore. Look at Garrosh, his lasts words in Sanctum was ''fuck you, fuck the alliance, fuck the jailor, I would do it again, for the horde!''.
    Hopefully Dragonflight will be a breath of fresh air for lore.

    • @Kytrion
      @Kytrion Před rokem +5

      Garosh was so good in SOD

    • @Devin7Eleven
      @Devin7Eleven Před rokem +7

      I think Arthas deserved a chance. In the old game and end of WOTLK, it was strongly hinted Arthas was trying to fight the Lich King's control and still held old things from his past. He had good intentions originally.

    • @J479fstknvds
      @J479fstknvds Před rokem +3

      What they did to Arthas in shadowlands was disgusting

    • @kataangsucks
      @kataangsucks Před rokem +1

      Only weebs think mop was better than cata. Mop literally killed wow and was basically prepatch to wod

    • @orkaydk9430
      @orkaydk9430 Před rokem

      @@kataangsucks and WoD was a prepatch to legion lmfao

  • @zlan1684
    @zlan1684 Před rokem +11

    I love playing WOTLK classic, I skipped the first 2 classic releases but I wasn't gonna miss this. I'm having loads of fun re exploring the old world/ Levling up a character from 1 again. Its been nice going back to the game that doesnt have 100 catchup systems.

    • @yaki6915
      @yaki6915 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yes, the world feel so authentic and real, its just a downgrade nowadays.

  • @spitwicked6188
    @spitwicked6188 Před rokem +7

    I think the ambience of Northrend is one of, if not the best ambience in any game ever made. IMO.

    • @stefanck
      @stefanck Před rokem +2

      @@rgjs4537 Same the songs are still in my head - The fjord !

  • @TheLi0nc0urt
    @TheLi0nc0urt Před rokem +14

    This is a good video. It does a great job pointing out that after Wrath Classic it's game over for like 80% of the classic population unless they do something new.

  • @empoweredmonkies
    @empoweredmonkies Před rokem +4

    Doing hardmodes icc and getting the mount with my 10 man was one of the best times and most fun I have ever had. No game will ever replicate that.

  • @MrQuantumHeals
    @MrQuantumHeals Před rokem +3

    I love getting home from work and having a few of these vids to watch. Thanks for making these videos they make my night a little more fun.

    • @DexiPawnz
      @DexiPawnz Před rokem

      Hey Brandon, I just wanted to wish you a good night tonight and to thank you for sharing your time with us enjoying WoW and Asmon :D

  • @HalalJoker
    @HalalJoker Před rokem +2

    I remember playing Wild Hunter and Rogue, it was so fun. Having my little pet following me or playing as a Rogue, with the feeling of an assassin.

  • @Sunless1337
    @Sunless1337 Před rokem +4

    MoP was the most fun I ever had in WoW. Playing WotLK classic now, and it's great, but the social aspect so far hasn't compared; I also had a ton of fun in raidfinder, especially while incredibly overgeared as a priest. Pulling my tanks into every pool of acid or bed of fire and healing them through it, keeping people from learning the raid properly... good times.

  • @arketsjenkins5016
    @arketsjenkins5016 Před rokem

    @12:00 right there all those hardmodes also 25 sindragosa achievment was a nutcase

  • @danyD2765
    @danyD2765 Před rokem +8

    @asmongold , he was not mind controled by the sword, Frostmourne only needed to be feed souls. He was actualy mind controlled by Ner'zhul . The spirit of Ner'zhul was in the helm , that's why the LK says during the ecounter "I was once a shaman"

    • @Devin7Eleven
      @Devin7Eleven Před rokem +3

      Feel like there was a lot of reinterpretation throughout the years. Either way, Frostmourne claimed Arthas first then Ner'zul came to set it all in place. Arthas didn't stand a chance.

    • @danyD2765
      @danyD2765 Před rokem +1

      @@Devin7Eleven I dont think Frostmourne "claimed him" he was already on the path and had some darkness in him.... when he burnes his ships because the troops were recalled to stormwind he basicly said something like "fuck the troops" because his vengence against Malganis was more important. And that was before he claimed Froustmourne and Muradin's death.... So i guess Froustmourne only empowered him thirst for vengence and when he put on the helm Ner'zul took control...... If you remember at the end after the LK dies there's a quote about there always must be a LK and that probably only what remained from Arthas's soul kept the scourge from running rampart across azeroth....

    • @Chopstorm.
      @Chopstorm. Před rokem +6

      @@danyD2765 The guardian specifically says he's trying to protect others from the sword, obviously implying that the sword has some form of mind control or corrupting properties.

    • @Devin7Eleven
      @Devin7Eleven Před rokem

      @@Chopstorm. In WC3 also it was inferences that the sword gets rid of your humanity. Arthas was willing to do anything to keep his people safe even if it meant picking up Frostmourne.

    • @ricksaburai
      @ricksaburai Před rokem +1

      Tichondrius: The runeblade that you carry was forged by the Lich King and empowered to steal souls. Yours was the first one it claimed.
      Arthas: Then I'll make do without one. What is the Lich King's will?

  • @TheVeeOhla
    @TheVeeOhla Před rokem

    I remember being part of server first "fire fighter" achievement from doing hard modes in Ulduar and spamming in it town lol

  • @JosiahHague
    @JosiahHague Před rokem

    Loved WC3 & TFT xpac. I played TONS of custom maps - DOTA (original & later ice frog's continuation), tower defense, so many others!!. The story of WC3 was really good too. I didn't get into WoW until 5-6 months after it came out...and then I was hooked for years to follow.

  • @hsofz
    @hsofz Před rokem +2

    Imagine how many would've been playing wow at 2004 if there were as many pcs as there are now

  • @Jinxlikestohike
    @Jinxlikestohike Před rokem +3

    19:20 That would be insane. Every realm would have a queue after a global event like that.

  • @Cjbreezey
    @Cjbreezey Před rokem +16

    Sad part about all this love for Arthas it makes you remember Blizzard turned him into a blue fart cloud

  • @ramsey553
    @ramsey553 Před rokem

    What’s better to play long term? Should I come back for wrath or wait until dragon flight? Can’t decide just want to know what has more content for me to play for a while did blizzard decide to keep wraith since it was the best? Won’t hate to put my all in to wraith then they leave it in the dust like TBC…

  • @fool4143
    @fool4143 Před rokem +1

    I may have been a Wrath baby(started 3 months before Cata) but Cata Heroic Dungeons made me better player real fast. To this day Wrath and MoP are my favorite expansion. Wrath had the story and MoP I enjoyed raiding the most, leveling 14 characters, and 7-8 legendary cloaks completed.

  • @Zordiak
    @Zordiak Před rokem +17

    20:00 Can you imagine...the first group that kills the Lich King IMMEDIATELY triggering a new alternate expansion? And no one knowing ahead of time that it's going to happen??? It makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up just thinking about it.
    And the crazy part is...the game actually has the technology to do this. In the past, expansions required server restarts. All the servers would shut down and when they restarted, the new expansion would be available. But in Shadowlands, for example, right when launch hit, we all got a new quest pop up and we could immediately go to the Shadowlands. So...they could actually trigger a new expansion from anything. It was just set to go off at a specific TIME for Shadowlands, but it realistically could be anything they want it to be.

    • @beelbrother1648
      @beelbrother1648 Před rokem +2

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    • @SpewPuke
      @SpewPuke Před rokem

      He kills everyone and you choose between two factions, the Scourge and the Living, then you have to be resurrected by the light in the starting quests or embrace your undeath depending on your faction. They have undead models for every single race in the game, and they can even make up lore explanations for every single class.

    • @Atakitampolaczek
      @Atakitampolaczek Před rokem

      Dataminers these days would never allow for such a surprise.. sadly.

    • @formdoggie5
      @formdoggie5 Před rokem

      ...it's called programming.
      That's literally how the game works. You can make it do whatever you want to do.

    • @Zordiak
      @Zordiak Před rokem

      @@formdoggie5 It supports it already. That's all I said.

  • @likegods
    @likegods Před rokem +1

    I never finished ICC so I might start again in WOTLK

  • @larrymitchell6470
    @larrymitchell6470 Před rokem

    I remember the guild all hoping on the boat and going to northrend and we had each others back, hitting dungeons. Sadly after Naxx we fell apart :(

  • @Lone_Wolf_91
    @Lone_Wolf_91 Před rokem

    20:51 That was so smooth bro

  • @cizmar1972
    @cizmar1972 Před rokem +2

    I was addicted to Wintergrasp. It was my favorite PvP. I don't care what anyone says. It was fun as hell.

  • @levoyageur9981
    @levoyageur9981 Před rokem +1

    Sure, there were people who played only for the lore, but I think most people played for everything else (gameplay, to play with your friends, for pvp, etc...). It was peak not only because of the story, but also because of the game that became better in many aspects since vanilla. And the decrease is partly due to some additions that were going against the social aspect of the game (introduction end of Wotlk of the dungeon finder), and I remember that Deathwing was not liked by everyone...

  • @linkinlol20
    @linkinlol20 Před rokem

    Tbh i was so exciting back in the day when i knew about wow game. And saw a friend playing it and inspired me until now. I remember back when i was buying vanilla and tbc expansions, i was so excited and was looking at books that comes with cds. Man such old good memories.

  • @smithical100
    @smithical100 Před rokem +4

    rocking about 45 minutes playtime and about 12 hours wait time. Love the new launch.

    • @Cerms
      @Cerms Před rokem +1

      Free migration.
      No queues since launch, 4-7 layers in Northrend around the clock.
      Mirage Raceway - EU

    • @Krigzulv
      @Krigzulv Před rokem

      Play a private server

  • @SgtReaper22
    @SgtReaper22 Před rokem

    I quit playing wow a while ago,I don't remember what expansion the Demon Hunter were in but that's the last time I played.I have been thinking of playing WOTLK classic since that's my Fav from that time and also since every character I had are all LVL40 and under including my max LVL60 characters with full PVP gear,after my brother told me BLizzard lowered the lvl cap in retail.

  • @MatthewJones-pz9nx
    @MatthewJones-pz9nx Před rokem

    It’s funny and relating to me that asmon brought up the story of why taxer nagas became so big since WoW is the exactly the reason I started playing with one and still use razor Nagasaki for every game I play today

  • @ancalagon1919
    @ancalagon1919 Před rokem

    Arthas, Ilidan, Thrall, Vashj, Kael, etc
    The story of all the protagonists, the campaigns... Warcraft 3 was and still is amazing. WotLK was also my last expansion.

  • @Max-dv1kq
    @Max-dv1kq Před rokem

    man these cinematics are 20 years old...thats when you realise time fcking flies

  • @anthonyg6083
    @anthonyg6083 Před rokem

    thanks for putting the original video in the description

  • @matt500x
    @matt500x Před rokem

    i still have my Wc3 OG CD, i remember the day it was released and when dad and i played it. Respect it despite its future demise :((

  • @horusksa1983
    @horusksa1983 Před rokem

    His voice was in Naxx fight with KZ

  • @kallazjopatsu6846
    @kallazjopatsu6846 Před rokem

    I'd love to play classic wrath if I'd get fast enough past grinding on my DK and Troll hunter from classic zones to northrend.

  • @jraz6102
    @jraz6102 Před rokem

    I don't even play world of warcraft but I am fascinated hearing people talk about and comment about it- guess it's just nice hearing people talk about something they love.

  • @Sevilou
    @Sevilou Před rokem

    Everyone pretty much remembers "USSO- USSO TAUNTA, USSO USSO TAUNTA"
    The world first kill cinematic auto-playing for everyone would create a shitstorm so immense people would be memeing about it more than Leeroy or Onyxia wipe animation in their prime, it would be fucking glorious.
    But it'd require making some anti-wipe mechanism like "invunerable but unable to move" buff cast literally on everyone for it's duration including bots and that would probably melt the hardware, one can dream tho. (tho nowhere as spectacularly, least we're informed about a LoD kill or Algalon when it happens)

  • @DJ_Treu
    @DJ_Treu Před rokem

    Honestly would love to see blizz get the commercials out again, have people re-do their old class commercial but a new class, so MR.T is now a Gnome Mohawk (Still warrior though) Ozzy is playing death knight because he got beat by the LK and turned into a DK after the last commercial etc. that would also show they care about the classic servers in a sense.

  • @Ubreakable-lr2dk
    @Ubreakable-lr2dk Před rokem +4

    playing wotlk feels more fullfilling than retail the crits/dealing dmg alone is so satisfying retail feels so bland comparewise

  • @Alexandros.Mograine
    @Alexandros.Mograine Před rokem +4

    Arthas waited for years between warcraft 3 and wotlk because he was building icecrown citadel and his armies, and gaining a better foothold in northrend. icecrown used to be a arctic wasteland.

    • @stewlamb138
      @stewlamb138 Před rokem

      except that the frozen throne was located in progenitor icc, the spire and the throne existed already etc. All built upon titan tech (absolutely fucking shit retcon but its lore now)

    • @Alexandros.Mograine
      @Alexandros.Mograine Před rokem

      @@stewlamb138 well he atleast built something, because he has people working in the quarries for taht reason, and he atleast 100% definitely built his armies. icecrown is much more than just the spire.

  • @vashe9
    @vashe9 Před rokem +1

    at release woltk was seen as the end of wow because it was "easy mode" compared to BC, I still remember it I too was shitting on it

  • @akaslowmoney
    @akaslowmoney Před rokem +3

    Blizzard died in 2008. In 2008, the year WotLK came out, you still had a game made by Blizzard. The real Blizzard. Also in 2008, Blizzard was bought by Activision. It then became Activision-Blizzard. This was the beginning of the end. You still had alot of the core original staff for most of WotLK, but Cataclysm onwards you saw what Activision could do, not the real original Blizzard. This correlates to most players view that 'wow died after wotlk', because this is actually true from a behind the scenes view after ownership changed hands.

  • @belialofeden
    @belialofeden Před rokem

    4:51 can we all just appreciate how good nfsu2 actually was. Still my favorite racing game to this day.

  • @Jonathan_D12
    @Jonathan_D12 Před rokem +1

    We say this every year. After every expansion, the game will die. It never does

  • @Exera80
    @Exera80 Před rokem +1

    I must agree, WOTLK was the most fun I ever had in WoW and have ever had since, hgowever I am not exited for WOTLK classic, simply because I played WOTLK to death during retail, I did pretty much everything, a lot of it 2, 3, 4, 5 and even 6 times, so I consider myself completely done with it. Still only good memories.

  • @GGMEHD
    @GGMEHD Před rokem

    I remember talking to a coworker before the release that it was bad to fight the lich king. These are the icons of the wow story and if we kill them what does that mean, the titans are next?

  • @Jinx7red
    @Jinx7red Před rokem

    This was me at 09:57
    I'm coming back though, Dragonflight has my attention :)

  • @ChaRambo
    @ChaRambo Před rokem

    I bought my first naga in MOP and have bought and used them exclusively ever since. lol

  • @DeanTheLaughingMann
    @DeanTheLaughingMann Před rokem +4

    Let's say someone wanted to get into WoW at this juncture.
    Would it be better to play Classic? Or to play through all the expansions as they are currently patched?

    • @kopicat2429
      @kopicat2429 Před rokem

      I would say Classic. Then maybe move on to Vanilla.
      But the problem with my take is that I don't play Vanilla. Haven't for years. So it's extremely biased :) Might be better to hear from someone who actually plays both versions at least semi actively.

    • @Cerms
      @Cerms Před rokem +1

      Classic is better if you want a journey to an end type of experience.
      Retail is better if you want to engage in ''end-game'' content, grinding dungeons, raiding with a guild, PvP in arenas etc.
      TLDR; Classic = Adventurer, Retail = Hero

    • @VictusPrime
      @VictusPrime Před rokem +2

      Just wait for Dragonflight to release and play that. I wouldn't recommend coming into this game for the first time playing a 15 year old version of it, no matter how good people claim it to be. The current version of the game will always be the best choice for new players, and if you wanna try a classic server, you can do that too at a later point since it'll come with your subscription.

    • @Krigzulv
      @Krigzulv Před rokem

      Play a private server

    • @tysondrowe
      @tysondrowe Před rokem

      straight to classic, retail is poop.

  • @DonBlueberry
    @DonBlueberry Před 5 měsíci

    Arthas is the reason I was obsessed with Paladins for so long. And then death knights eventually too.

  • @babayaga8112
    @babayaga8112 Před rokem

    It was easy to get decent gear in wotlk but not many had the full heroic versions of that gear I remember seeing only the people in the absolute top two guilds ever wearing this gear like Paragon

  • @Narshe311
    @Narshe311 Před rokem

    Hey did you know they announced wotlk in 2004? So glad we get to go to Northland.

  • @williamjones1563
    @williamjones1563 Před rokem

    I remember paying 80.for my razor mouse it was so nice having every button you had to use on your mouse

  • @phantomxx1000
    @phantomxx1000 Před rokem +1

    When I think about it WOW became big without the influence of the internet for the most part but it was still able to rival Minecraft and Fortnite at their peaks that's how much of a cultural phenomenon WOW was back then. Back then WOW was what social media is to us now.

  • @LightsofGlory
    @LightsofGlory Před rokem +6

    As a complete Newb in wow, what you said in outlining the 10 steps to playing the game is spot on! The learning curve and “grind” is just too massive for beginners (imo).
    Edit: at 20:45 - 21:30. And i know some of it is meant as a joke but for someone like me just learning my class and the raiding mechanics is kind of my limit right now

    • @Itshayden98
      @Itshayden98 Před rokem +1

      It is hard as a newb but honestly just get yourself in there, find just one friend willing to take you through shit, try joining ppl in group finder. Experience is the best way to learn and it sucks because a lot of the players have low patience cause they’ve done the dungeons/raids 100s of times already. Just keep pushing man it gets fun

  • @Yoyoyomyg
    @Yoyoyomyg Před rokem

    I remember in TFT when Arthas put on the helm feeling like he'd be unkillable.

  • @JulyTiger1986
    @JulyTiger1986 Před rokem +1

    I was telling my group of friends, it'd be really cool if they found a way to make the next part of classic after wotlk just be the next expansion of retail and just fucking retcon everything post wotlk and make everything right again and just play it as if they are happening in two parallel universes that merge in some way, just rewrite the history of wow post wotlk.

  • @Tikayy
    @Tikayy Před rokem

    I only played Wotlk because I loved Warcraft 1-3, and wasn't even for long.
    Not that I wasn't a mmo player, played mmos before and after, but I only went into wotlk to have that story completion feeling.

  • @jericohellsangel594
    @jericohellsangel594 Před rokem

    Even when technicaly more searches, you have to look at it from the perspective of the time.
    Back then much fewer people played games and it was much less common to play games. So the fact that it had about the same search amount as minecraft and fortnite now, just tells you how big it actually was back then.

  • @CoreChamber
    @CoreChamber Před rokem +1

    Epic story. A lot of content. The world we knew felt invaded and you had a boss that was all in your face. It was the closest we got to balanced content for the hardcore and casual. Then it became all about Mythic+, Wardrobe made it pointless to collect anything more than once, and crafted gear became catch-up gear which became unnecessary due to time between expansions. All that killed the auction house which was a game in itself. PVP was broken out separate from PVE in a faction game. MMOs needs grind for the dull times and you destroyed that to get casuals, but they move on to the next game after a month leaving a shallow game for the people who life it.

    • @lidldesjeunes2614
      @lidldesjeunes2614 Před rokem

      Epic Story ? A lich-king with the voice of batman with the worse plan ever «I let u killing all my army to see if you are strong enough to be my servant»

    • @CoreChamber
      @CoreChamber Před rokem

      @@lidldesjeunes2614 Well he had some build up in 3 strategy games.

  • @ValeStuff
    @ValeStuff Před rokem

    lmaooo and here I am watching this video with my razr naga in hand that i bought during MOP 18:13

  • @HecklordSupreme
    @HecklordSupreme Před rokem

    Tiny baby nitpick, the naga was released in 2009, I used that in wrath

  • @BinahAtala
    @BinahAtala Před rokem

    WTLK was the best for me, because i was recovering after sustaining injuries in my deployment (Military) the game help me relax, work on my hand to eye coordination and play with 2 friends and my wife for hours non stop....after many years of us playing Warcraft III.
    I loved the lore back then, and when we took Arthas down i felt like something was over.
    I returned to active duty, tried to keep playing wow for a while on and off......CATA/MOP/WOD/BFA too casual, almost nostalgic playing...and the i quit for good.
    Havent play the game for years..........But i still play the OST and i shit you not, still get emotional when i play Howling Fjord/Lament of the Highborne/Old Darnassus / IRon Forge.
    A friend who die on the line of duy gave the order to be bury with Lament of the Highborne.

  • @MrBishop077
    @MrBishop077 Před rokem

    I kind of would like for them to release WoW vanilla expanding into TBC>WotLK>CATA>MoP> ect but with all the features of Retail.
    would WoW retail even be viable in a vanilla only setting? /shrug .. but i would like to find out.

  • @panda93247
    @panda93247 Před rokem

    I think WotLK was great for me personally because it was the last full expansion without phasing. It went from a world where I wanted to be in constantly to just another game that I enjoyed playing because of phasing.

  • @omnisverse3553
    @omnisverse3553 Před rokem

    I love how in every video made about wow your flamed in to Funny 😂😂😂

  • @SwedetasticGames
    @SwedetasticGames Před rokem +1

    The Lich King actually killing everyone would be the dankest possible way to show "yeah bitches, we doing Classic+ now"

  • @alexstreet9470
    @alexstreet9470 Před rokem

    Bro he burned the boats and blamed the mercenaries before he ever picked up Frostmourne .

  • @maeiv9365
    @maeiv9365 Před rokem

    Knowing warcraft in childhood was a blessing.

  • @Barvyon
    @Barvyon Před rokem

    I feel like WoD should have shown Blizzard how much people want Player housing, since that is what Garrisons were suppose to be, and everyone got super excited and came back for it.
    I would also like to see an Infinite Dragonflight expansion where each patch is part of a major expansion, with different themes, like the Lich King, N'zoth, Illidan, Garrosh, ect...

  • @tywash9456
    @tywash9456 Před rokem

    I've been gaming since the Atari 2600, but the most fun I've ever had playing videogames was raiding Icecrown.

  • @spacecat278
    @spacecat278 Před rokem

    I dont even really play wow but I had this wacky cool idea where they remake the story past wratch and then somewhere along the line theres some fucky wucky timeline shit that bridges it with retail

  • @insidetrip101
    @insidetrip101 Před rokem

    One thing to consider about wow relative to fortnight/minecraft is that wow existed at a time when the internet was significantly smaller than was when minecraft/fortnight came around. The latter to games may have had more players at the peaks, but wow was much bigger relative to the growth of the internet.

  • @quinnmichaelson6793
    @quinnmichaelson6793 Před rokem

    Wod was more a flashback to WC2 (and early wc3) story than to TBC as the demons played a very minor role, the primary focus was on orcs tribes and politics as well as warmongering tendencies
    WC2 was centered around orc tribal dynamics with a united horde being the primary threat to azeroth, an alliance united force defending against them and invading via the dark portal, then closing the portal
    Wc3 introduced the orcs redemption from bloodthirsty/evil beings to complex, and elaborated on the demon corruption part while spreading new demon corruption to humans/elves/undead as well (kel thuzad, Arthas, etc)
    TBC was more a clusterfuck of minor demons invading azeroth both via agents in draenor and via recruits in azeroth denizens (kael)

  • @AbundanceOfBees
    @AbundanceOfBees Před rokem

    The Razer Naga came out significantly before MoP, and Swifty arguably pushed it moreso than it being a necessity to play MoP.

  • @greymane_gaming3435
    @greymane_gaming3435 Před rokem +7

    For me... I just found wrath to be visually stunning and the earlier game was just good.
    Also, I understood the DK dynamics far better than any of the other classes and it rapidly became my main as a tank for the main raiding group in an almost 200 man raiding guild.
    I had stop playing for personal reasons mid wrath and when I came back near the end of cata... I just couldn't recapture the feeling I had before.

    • @quorthunsargeras7054
      @quorthunsargeras7054 Před rokem

      Earlier game was not good. Many people quit when Wrath was launched because of how piss poor Naxx was.
      The hate Raiders had toward first few months of wrath was intense.
      It didn't start to pick up until Ulduar.

    • @greymane_gaming3435
      @greymane_gaming3435 Před rokem

      @@quorthunsargeras7054 I was only referring to the visual graphics being stunning as opposed to the rest of the game just being good.
      To be honest overall I preferred Final Fantasy 11 to World of Warcraft for the actual gameplay. However I owned it on a PS2 and I had shattered my hand around that time so operating the controller was painful at best.. so I ended up playing WoW instead

    • @greymane_gaming3435
      @greymane_gaming3435 Před rokem

      @@skateorpie to be fair every game that has an expansion or major content update has a fluctuation of people who quit but also an influx of people who join or return. I do happen to agree that the trend was growth though

    • @j.d.5626
      @j.d.5626 Před rokem

      @@skateorpie I think you right, by the time I reached 80 most people were not even doing Naxx that much. I had a full time job at the time.

  • @MooseTheMau
    @MooseTheMau Před rokem

    I’m getting back into wow. What’s better, wow or wow classic?

  • @gigantomastiaCuddler
    @gigantomastiaCuddler Před rokem

    "I forgot what it felt like to have fun"

  • @drewcat2594
    @drewcat2594 Před rokem

    "does he know hogger..?" 😂😂

  • @KhaosFactorX
    @KhaosFactorX Před rokem +1

    Can I just say, the small but significant fact that Asmon didn't post this video with his 'reaction face' on the video thumbnail was super classy...Lich King in repose says it all, so thanks man for making this classic re-experience the focus :)

  • @nataliatrajano4330
    @nataliatrajano4330 Před rokem

    WOTLK holds a very special place for me since it was my first RPG and I actually met my current husband in the game.
    No other game I played had me the way WoW did back then.

  • @jblev736
    @jblev736 Před rokem

    Arthas' story reminds me a little of Hal Jordan and Paralax

  • @KAjo07
    @KAjo07 Před rokem

    Razer Naga was in WOTLK and I had her :D

  • @InFuzZioNPlays
    @InFuzZioNPlays Před rokem

    As someone that has never touched WoW in his life, do you guys still think its worth it to start? After watching so many of asmons videos I became kinda hyped but I heard that alot of old cool stuff is locked oder removed.

  • @darkkeijp
    @darkkeijp Před rokem +1

    Authentic villains with Arthas, Kelthuzad and the bug. Some of the best zones in the game. Well balanced PVP. One of the best raids ever made in Ulduar. Just ignore a couple of the absolute stinkers like Trial of the crusader. After wotlk you had all these weird things like Panda's, going to space, going to a deathworld that just stopped feeling like Warcraft.

    • @Thalaranthey
      @Thalaranthey Před rokem

      ToC was out of place, but damn if it wasnt fun tho. i liked it a lot

    • @darkkeijp
      @darkkeijp Před rokem

      @@Thalaranthey toc would have been ok if it was released at once. Nobody was looking forward to one new challenge a week that took a hard mode ulduar guild 2 tries to master.

  • @myst6256
    @myst6256 Před rokem

    I think that WOTLK its the best expantion and the best version of the game. But what come next its important to me too. Maybe its not perfect but there are good things. For example i cant play without monk and dh classes. I love it and could be cool if they added in classic game and reworked like wotlk era i guess. Idk... but legion and mop was really good expantion too... especially mop (monk class, panda race, the story of garrosh and voljin, the insane culture of pandaria with that Chinese feelings its just a 10 for me that expantion)

  • @lonesoul1505
    @lonesoul1505 Před rokem

    Graphicswise.. i still remember using Autodesk Maya for 3D modeling lol

  • @OxygenDiffusion
    @OxygenDiffusion Před rokem

    Just started in grizzly hills for the first time in a long time
    and my dudes....

  • @jjww4797
    @jjww4797 Před rokem

    real quick iwant to buy wotlk classic but i hear it not like how wg was back in the day.its like a bg now .but is there more then 40 players on each team.if not im good.i rember wg being with like 3 or 4 raid groups

  • @kobrraful
    @kobrraful Před rokem

    something he did get wrong in this was that Razer didn't take off during MOP. they took off during WOTLK because of Swiftys warrior dueling vids.

  • @moralester
    @moralester Před rokem

    I think my favorite part about WOTLK is how intuitive the dungeon system is. None of the heroics need a key or weird unlock, they have a great daily system for heroics, and awesome loot system. It's genuinely fun to hunt down gear when you hit 80. But I still think the levelling rate from 70-80 was enjoyable. I loved the zones and was thoroughly satisfied with myself when I finally hit 80.

    • @Narshe311
      @Narshe311 Před rokem

      This expansion destroyed heroics. Blizz even tried to fix it in cata but it was too late. Not talking about lfd, just the mechanics of classes.

    • @moralester
      @moralester Před rokem

      @@Narshe311 how did they destroy heroics? Seems fun to me

  • @IanJax98
    @IanJax98 Před rokem

    3:45 I was in 3rd or 4th elementary (dunno the corresponding american class) when we changed our first pc (which, for reference, had a whooping 4gb HHD, just saying) and so, switching from windows 98 to xp, we (me and my father who was actually playing cuz i still couldnt read) couldnt play warcraft II anymore. We checked to see, as it was a "II", if there was a "III" and oh boy, there was, and in E-blink of E-mule, we had it. He had to play it for me until he ragequitted cuz after many, many attemps, we couldnt purge Stratholme. I took me immense effort to win it myself, some time later.
    So i played the whole game, and the whole expansion, and when i got my first pc, some WoW (it was during end cataclysm-early pandaria, then again during draenor for a while, then same with legion. Yes the stench of the lone casual mmorpg player comes from me rn) without really having that closure that WotLK brought to real wow players, ex War3 players who played it.
    This to say: yeah, both My parents know 'bout the lich king(s), prolly by name back then :D

  • @jackdillane1482
    @jackdillane1482 Před rokem

    This is why I wished they just started the WoW movies with The Lich King like the star wars movies… do the best first and then do the prequel shit after

  • @ryansteffens9704
    @ryansteffens9704 Před rokem

    I actually bought my first razer Naga during bc

  • @connorlindsay5194
    @connorlindsay5194 Před rokem

    My razr naga from MoP still going strong

  • @Bl00dMalice
    @Bl00dMalice Před rokem

    Both TBC and WotlK were the best that WoW had to offer. After that duo was over, it was the beginning of the end of WoW.

  • @Tijuanabill
    @Tijuanabill Před rokem

    Man I want to play Wrath but I can't get sucked in to the time sink of WoW again, fun as it may be.

  • @ThisiswhyWecanthavenicethings

    I think they should hire him to lead classic plus